oh ok but as fury i have signet at ring..
#pvp
cerulean latch
near delta
That honestly sounds super fun
modern wigeon
IIt gets better with double lego 4 piece too. Not sure if it will be best but it’s super fun if you like pushing buttons.
Also keeps up the big MS debuff a bit better
celest pike
Do we prefer kyrian or necro at the moment in 2v2? Also, do we still play with Resonator when playing Kyrian?
elder wigeon
I don't play with the bomb when kyrian and I personally think necro and kyrian being preferable is comp dependent
in a holy priest meta, I think necrolord is better personally, but in a rdruid meta I think spear is better
undone ermine
Is killing a BM's pet a viable strat?
trim fiber
Is there any way to check how much dmg you intervened?
elder wigeon
Is there any way to check how much dmg you intervened?
watch your health go from 90-10 because you intervened the divine toll
otherwise, no
elder wigeon
Is killing a BM's pet a viable strat?
yes
undone ermine
What are some tips for doing that then? They seem to have an unkickable rez.
wary harbor
if they turtle for that
elder wigeon
they don't, it's kickable
undone ermine
It wasn't a turtle, I got a red bar; it might've been the trinket though I had no way of checking.
elder wigeon
are they playing echoing resolve then?
if they're playing with an hpally they can get aura mastery
undone ermine
It was a Hpal, yeah.
elder wigeon
that's probably what happened, the hpally used aura mastery with concentration aura to give the hunter an unkickable res
gotta fear them or stun them to stop it
undone ermine
Ugh. Yeah I went for the fear on the last one, but was a little late.
elder wigeon
hpally hunter is insanely annoying as warrior
in no world should you be able to even touch the hunter so I mostly hit hpally and pet
wet scarab
Yeah that’s what happened to me in a couple of survive hunter games but I don’t think one of them was with an hpal partner
One turtled which I understood
But another had that gray castbar
What is it about surv that nerfs their damage so much if you kill their pet?
undone ermine
Kill command or something?
wet scarab
Isn’t kill command a BM thing?
I understand that there’s a dps loss since the pet isn’t attacking you anymore but it’s like they stop doing anything to you
undone ermine
Gonna log my hunter real quick, see hwat's up.
severe skiff
they lose access to flanking strike, roar of sac, freedom and focus generation when you kill pet
wet scarab
Damn that would hurt
undone ermine
Kill command goes as well, they do have it.
They also lose mobility in that Flanking Strike and Master's Call go (if they have it).
wet scarab
There are quite a few fury duelists in 2s and 3s now
I’ve been playing it quite a lot, not particularly well, at around rival level, and it’s a lot of fun in 3s particularly if you play with a caster because you have a lot of freedom of movement. 2s it feels a bit limiting because of fewer strong peel options
I played signet with reckless abandon which gives you a no cd death sentence like charge on raging blow if you proc recklessness, and it murders hunters and rdruids
I’m also playing it with the 2pc so it feels quite good
Also people don’t understand your abilities so they wall or use defensives and trinkets at the wrong time
cosmic pumice
exotic nexus
if they turtle for that
knockback works to interrupt while they're turtled if you have a druid or monk in your group
elder wigeon
just play against a good druid that soothes every enrage off and you'll be loving fury even more
frank knoll
Didn’t they nerf fury
elder wigeon
a little bit yeah
sharp meteor
They nerfed glory.
elder wigeon
mostly pve nerfs
nerfed the 2 and 4 set a little and nerfed glory
the 4 set nerf is rough for pvp though
you get 3 sec of reck not 4 now
I just don't think fury is good, you guys can argue till the end of time about it, but the fact good players will soothe your enrage off, and you don't have a strong defensive cooldown means you're just gonna get chopped
jagged cedar
Fury imo is more fun. Usually I run it to mess around.
undone ermine
Is it easier to gain rating late in the season or in the off season? I made 2k toward the end of s2 but I feel kinda stuck at about 1600 rn.
elder wigeon
there's a lot of deflation because there was a MMR soft reset
sharp meteor
Is it easier to gain rating late in the season or in the off season? I made 2k t...
everybody last season was legit like 300-400+ higher than they should've been
undone pumice
and now its deflated how much roughly?
elder wigeon
tough to say, it's the beginning of the season and mmr is hard to come by at the top
right now currently? about 1000mmr
but that doesn't mean that you would be 1000 higher if the inflation was there
undone pumice
the top is 1000 deflated
elder wigeon
yes
undone pumice
and every like 100ish cr it infaltes by 100cr?
like lets say top is 2400, 2.3 is deflated by 900?
elder wigeon
idk how I'd formulate it
all I know is the top players are 1000cr lower right now than they were a few weeks ago
undone pumice
how boosted were phil and i
raw summit
Not boosted, me at least
undone pumice
inflated then
undone ermine
So if I'm like a few hundred points short of where I was last season I prolly shouldn't feel bad.
elder wigeon
in season 1 I was 2842 peak, last season I peaked 3137, I'm confident I could've gotten higher if my teammates had more time to play, we went up 150 points in the last day
elder wigeon
So if I'm like a few hundred points short of where I was last season I prolly sh...
no you shouldn't
undone pumice
me and phil struggling at 1200 rn big yikes
but our comp sint optimal at all either
raw summit
So essentially it's +300 for your mmr end
What's bothering me is if i got natty 1800 or scuffed 1500
elder wigeon
what comp?
raw summit
We are playing x2 wari mw
raw summit
What do you expect tbh 
undone pumice
not much tbh
elder wigeon
I definitely wouldn't play it
raw summit
I have a dk so we could tsg
undone pumice
phil has a dk i think but i belive its pve
undone pumice
im almost full honor gear too
wet scarab
I just don't think fury is good, you guys can argue till the end of time about i...
Arms is better all things being equal, but with 2 pc I think fury is quite good in 3s especially with its self healing against cc and purge heavy comps
wet scarab
At any rate arms was so saturated last two seasons that everyone knows exactly how to counter it
raw summit
(from noodle so yea 💀)
undone pumice
how does dk even work
elder wigeon
wdym
undone pumice
can frost 2h and dw
elder wigeon
yes
undone ermine
At any rate arms was so saturated last two seasons that everyone knows exactly h...
I've been feeling this; every warbreaker I'm getting peeled fucking hard.
undone pumice
but 2h better right
elder wigeon
I've been feeling this; every warbreaker I'm getting peeled fucking hard.
play to stop others from shutting you down, like stunning targets that want to disarm you on your warbreaker and bladestorm to deny disarm
undone pumice
i wanted to play a dk at some point but apparently its pretty bad
raw summit
Cute cat resune
elder wigeon
thanks
undone ermine
play to stop others from shutting you down, like stunning targets that want to d...
Can you elaborate on this?
wet scarab
Dk feels pretty bad because arms counters it so well
elder wigeon
I've been playing storm of destruction lately and been playing to deny enemy warriors, monks, dh's from shutting me down by stunning them, warbreakering into a bladestorm
or you can throw up reflect when you warbreaker to reflect detainment from dh
raw summit
Does disarm stop disarm
elder wigeon
no
undone ermine
No.
elder wigeon
and would be bad to do that anyways
undone pumice
disaem the disarm
raw summit
Yea but it stops parry, right?
elder wigeon
yes
wet scarab
I love it when other warriors disarm me because I disarmed their go out of spite
undone ermine
That's how we learn. 😦
wet scarab
You can disarm them from the back I think which is pretty tilting
raw summit
Hasnt happened since so we learned 
wet scarab
Do they still have stance dancing in TBC classic? I forget when it went away
undone ermine
Big overhauls were in legion.
wet scarab
Oh that’s late, I quit early cata I think
undone ermine
Warrior didn't change much BFA -> Shadowlands.
wet scarab
Played a little every expac after but not much
You know what would fix the dstance nerf? Gladiator stance
steep inlet
Warrior didn't change much BFA -> Shadowlands.
this is false
hard hitting execute, ignore pain, intervene, Overwatch, etc
SL Warrior is a lot superior to BFA Warrior
wet scarab
RIP over watch and Bruin, who isn’t getting any gear these last two weeks
undone ermine
I think we're about to get into semantic discussion; most classes received deep fundamental revisions in legion afaik. Not tuning changes and minor ability additions/revisions/subtractions.
steep inlet
undone ermine
Also note: -> /= >
wet scarab
Back in my day you could only spell reflect with a shield
undone ermine
-> means into, not 'greater than'.
nimble jasper
warrior got a decent SL rework
scarlet barn
I think we're about to get into semantic discussion; most classes received deep ...
Semnatics
Actual changes
Pick one
👀
nimble jasper
then theres specs like sub and outlaw that somehow get revamped every expansion
elder wigeon
you haven't needed a shield for reflect since cata
nimble jasper
cuz devs have no idea what to do
wet scarab
Hence back in my day :p
nimble jasper
also
wet scarab
Spriest feels like it gets revamped every couple of weeks
steep inlet
warrior got a decent SL rework
From shit to OP was more than decent
nimble jasper
yeah
i was saying warrior was gonna be s tier from beta
unless they made it do negative dmg
elder wigeon
i wouldn't say it was a rework, just major tuning changes and depruned
undone ermine
i wouldn't say it was a rework, just major tuning changes and depruned
This is what I'm trying to say; legion brought a rework, which is a different beast to what Shadowlands did.
elder wigeon
I don't think warrior has changed how it "works" as much as 5.4 -> 6.0
I quit because they ruined arms warrior in 6.0
they ruined every class if I'm going to be brutally honest
wet scarab
Were the warrior changes mostly PvP ones? I came back end of BFA but wasn’t really attuned to the game yet to understand the changes going into SL
elder wigeon
it took until legion to fix a lot of the issues and again I'll be honest, class design has been fucked since 6.0
nimble jasper
legion was fucking weird in the sense
they tried to redesign every spec as its own class
rather than part of the class
wet scarab
When did they remove the old school talent point system to this 3 a row simplistic alternative
elder wigeon
cataclysm
nimble jasper
rogue got part of its spec divorce back with dismantle returned for all 3 specs
elder wigeon
I'm not a fan of it for pvp
undone ermine
Didn't go far enough. #removetalents
raw summit
I'm not a fan of it for pvp
Agreed
wet scarab
Yeah it was a bit too involved back in the day but made tbe class much more customisable
nimble jasper
only issue i see with 3 a row
is alot of classes have one actual talent
on some rows
elder wigeon
being able to change talents before a game starts is cool and I welcome it, from a RPG sense I really liked the old spec system, but it's not so compatible with competitive pvp in arenas
frank knoll
I remember when you could tank dungeons as enhance
wet scarab
There were a lot more niche builds
Right now there are talents nobody takes in any content
nimble jasper
then they made random classic esque changes no one asked for
elder wigeon
the problem I have with the 3 talent system, is that most specs don't even ever change anything ever because the other options aren't even close to viable
wet scarab
the problem I have with the 3 talent system, is that most specs don't even ever ...
Yeah exactly there is no real choice there for the majority of content types
elder wigeon
I just know and remember back in mop, you'd change your talents quite often, and was cool
Now, you just change pvp talents (which whatever, it just replaced the glyph system)
elder wigeon
rend should be baseline imho
nimble jasper
^
wet scarab
Both rend and disarm were baseline in vanilla iirc
elder wigeon
pretty much
wet scarab
Bring back shield bash
nimble jasper
no class has a baseline disarm
sage raptor
When did they remove the old school talent point system to this 3 a row simplist...
MoP
raw summit
No
undone pumice
disarm tike
nimble jasper
pvers prob cried too much on their bars
raw summit
Like how do it work in pve
nimble jasper
like how they made dark sim a pvp talent
sage raptor
Remember when there weren't pvp talents and we all rawdogged every ability lol
wet scarab
Disarm should at least fit in with class fantasy, why the fuck do casters like moonkins have disarms
elder wigeon
why is raiding the only content you're talking about
nimble jasper
always makes me laugh when people bring up stuns in “rogue raid utility”
elder wigeon
M+ exists
nimble jasper
yeah let me just stun the raid boss
wet scarab
Couldn’t you disarm some raid bosses back in the day
undone pumice
give me more buttons
wet scarab
Or definitely dungeon bosses
raw summit
why is raiding the only content you're talking about
Idk im just curious if u could yank a bosses wep
nimble jasper
cuz they’re honor talents
undone pumice
same
undone pumice
like im so used to using sharpen blade
nimble jasper
rogue used to have smoke bomb as a raid dr
undone pumice
then i enter dungeon and im like wtf
wet scarab
Pretty sure you could disarm some bosses in vanilla but can’t remember if it worked on any raid bosses
wet scarab
Rogue utility in raids is to die on pulls during scuffed vanish openers
undone pumice
i know
raw summit
Rogue utility used to be shroud past trash
undone pumice
but it did smth else i think
nimble jasper
nah rogue used to increase magic dmg taken on a target
undone pumice
its still good in m+
nimble jasper
reminder
undone pumice
shadowmeld op
wet scarab
When did they stop debuffs from helping other raid and party members with things like sunder
nimble jasper
i mean they brought back rogue slice and dice
wet scarab
Yes! Why not
nimble jasper
cuz boomers wanted it
raw summit
Also smf
undone pumice
idk
wet scarab
WAIT FOR 3 SUNDERS FUCKING WARLOCK IMBECILES
undone pumice
have they ever majorly fucked mage or druid in the last 8 years
undone pumice
like since wod
raw summit
Mage lost that thing
undone pumice
have druid or mage gotten much nerfs
wet scarab
Fire was kinda bad in pve beginning on 9.1 weren’t they
Ofc they buffed them in a week
raw summit
Where u put dam in
nimble jasper
mage lost deep freeze
undone pumice
ok but thats pve
raw summit
And it explodes
nimble jasper
also reminder
undone pumice
who?
raw summit
Where u omeshotted hfc shit
undone pumice
bruh
wet scarab
Fire mage now is ridiculous in raid
So op in both
And hpriest is op in both
We had a returning player with green trinkets outheal paladins and rdruids in the raid by a mile
nimble jasper
tbf in raid i dont mind as much
since holy was the “i cant play disc” spec in raid forever
undone pumice
i remember in 8m3
wet scarab
The saddest m+ healer perception atm is rdruids
wet scarab
Yeah they seem squishy if you catch them
nimble jasper
rdruid kit is just so good
wet scarab
Yeah that’s both the problem and the thing that makes them op
wet scarab
I don’t think you can defeat one that actually knows how to use all its tools at the right time
But it’s so much input they’re liable to fuck up
wet scarab
The difference between a duelist Druid and a goad Druid is probably the biggest of any class
undone pumice
goad?
wet scarab
Glad sorry
sage raptor
The difference between a duelist Druid and a goad Druid is probably the biggest ...
Yeah, how many x's are in the name.
rough mountain
is there macro for spear + bomb?
formal summit
is there macro for spear + bomb?
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] spear of bastion
/use [@cursor] 13
sharp meteor
nice way to throw your spear into the ceiling if you have a funky camera angle
undone ermine
Any better suggestions, was thinking of just having to drop on myself.
near delta
Is it just straight up impossible to beat BM/MW if they have a brain?
MW was just disarming every war breaker or every time I tried to shatter bubble. lol
undone ermine
Gotta kill the pet, pretty much.
near delta
I did 3 times
undone ermine
RIP
near delta
Just ran and revived it each time lmao
sharp meteor
Gotta kill the pet, pretty much.
Not realistically possible.
undone pumice
i hate
near delta
I even killed pet, stormbolted speared, and pummeled
near delta
Then he got another one off in the spear lmao
sharp meteor
Unless they're both drunk and don't press anything.
near delta
It was also mugumbala so I made swaps on the MW but he ported
undone pumice
tbh even with indicstor
i sometimes throw my spear into the ceiling or through the floor
i play pretty much top downin arena
near delta
I had some super embarrassing ones when I first switched to an @cursor macro
sharp meteor
the speed just isn't worth it
wow is slow boomer game with gcd
264 pvp ilev declined from yolo rbg for being necro instead of kyrian HMM
undone ermine
God LFG is just a shit show of ridiculous expectations.
No healer remotely close to my rating or gear level wants to touch a warrior; we're a dead spec in 2s, or at least that's how people are behaving.
sharp meteor
definitely wouldn't pick arms over hunter rogue dh etc
undone ermine
Pretty much any DPS melee is a better pick, if I had to guess.
undone ermine
It's the same problem, but without DBS.
near delta
Got to 1900 on my alt DH I've barely played easily
mystic barn
fury claps in 2s
near delta
What cov/leggo have peeps been using?
wet scarab
yeah fury is good in 2s, lots of self healing for the chain ccs
kinda mitigates the lack of dbts advantage since arms dies after parry anyway
your enraged regen actually helps heal you instead of just sitting there as healer gets hexxed into capacitor
I've been playing it as necro with signet
actually melts hunter rdruid teams and RM in 2s because of the procs canceling roots
it's harder against other match-ups but it makes this meta feel a little less impossible
reckless abandon also gives you a raging blow charge without a cd like death sentence so you stick to rdruids and hunters
sharp meteor
issue with pieces like helm chest etc is that you culd get tier out of box or from another source
suddenly you've got a bit of an overlap
clear pine
Buy 2h sword or 2h mace? Because i have seen so many screenshots of mace. Isnt sword better regarding stats?
harsh lintel
playing fury/healer vs dh/healer what do in 2s
feels like they do so much more pressure
fury/hpriest vs dh/rdruid
near delta
Mes is cranking with fury on the tourney vs cloud9
idle oxide
Anyone here tried playing condemn lately at high rating? Logged my Warrior for the first time last night - was late and for some reason I logged off as Venthyr.
Was too lazy to change my cov so just did some LFG 2's with a priest - but daaayyuum... I was surprised about how much my warrior was pumping.
Most of the time I was doing around 4.8k dps consistently, burst around 10-13k.
Was running with my haste gear and Enduring, also tried the crit set but was missing the rage, even though was pumping similar numbers.
In all honesty it felt like I was pushing out more pressure than I do on my DH. I know it was super low rating, but I was just very surprised at how hard it was doing dmg consistently.
Anyone else tried Condemn and found similar results or?
main copper
Anyone here tried playing condemn lately at high rating? Logged my Warrior for ...
Most the Cov's still work, I am leaning heavily into Necrolord atm for the extra survivability.
Despite doing all of last season as Kyrian 😄
elder wigeon
Buy 2h sword or 2h mace? Because i have seen so many screenshots of mace. Isnt s...
sword, i'm a firm believer crit is better than mastery
warped warren
yep
fickle forge
Firm believer that they're both fine and you can just pick whichever one you prefer
dusty saddle
whipping out the war again, is there a clear rbg cov
sharp meteor
probably still spear
pinning a few people offensively or defensively is just better than the alternatives
although buffin bigly mooner ret or dk with conq banner also seems dece
wet scarab
Anyone here tried playing condemn lately at high rating? Logged my Warrior for ...
I found it limited in utility in 3s because it’s a weird rotation with the 2 pc but it’s great in 2s
Smexxin is playing venthyr in 3s but he can play with a staff and still win so
wet scarab
playing fury/healer vs dh/healer what do in 2s
I would just go their healer and switch during tranq. DH or rdruid can die during recklessness windows if they don't have tranq or blur if you talent reckless abandon and charge at them every raging blow
they can't really kite you in those windows
jaunty furnace
I never know who to go on it changes with each comp
spice hornet
sub rogue damage istoo fucking high
tight totem
Smexxin is maining fury this season right?
What fury comps are better compared to arms? Like fury dh and fury ww?
wet scarab
I think I saw in one of his streams he was playing with a druid and hunter?
I like mixed melee range comps more, limits cleave potential, most are quite tanky, and they are usually bait so you're free to choose targets and go nuts
it's also more fun in arms for the same reason
last stream was paladin shaman tho
sharp meteor
aegis
sharp meteor
purple hair interns pls understand
spice hornet
and then just pick aegis tomorroww @radiant oasis its a weekly quest
wet scarab
aegis is really good, it's also quite nice in raids and mythics in high magic damage phases if you don't have better dps trinkets
spice hornet
i love trinketing a combust kidney blades go, only to get 1 danced the next go 100-0
fucking spec is so disgusting
knotty tangle
I hate facing arms a lot more than fury tbh
But they both work, so play what you like
spice hornet
when u look up a NL DH in 2s after beating them
and their highest 2s is 2600 and their highest 3s is 1900
spice hornet
i swear comboat is f alling too easily
my healer is constantlyt getting sapped out of combat easily
ancient sonnet
shadowy duel drops combat after it ends but otherwise it's on the healer to stay in combat I guess
unless they're sapping of fears/stuns etc. Not a whole lot they can do about it
spice hornet
i get calvish
kalvish
to 500 hp
after bannering his disarm
he vanishes
gets a 47k heal in stealth from the enh
fickle forge
my healer is constantlyt getting sapped out of combat easily
7 sec kidney into sap 😎 👍
fickle forge
enh healing is still broken even after the nerf
Cause it's not nerfed yet?
wet scarab
I thought they issued a hotfix a few days ago, for enh and fire
or was it going live with the reset?
fickle forge
It goes live with reset
wet scarab
you have to get one shot every arena session by either a vesper totem or boon of the ascended and then you look out for it every game
then you forget next sesh
rinse repeat
raw summit
how the f is this shit normal?
kill the totem
lucid walrus
wish that shit was just immovable
fickle forge
Kill the totem that's 80 yd away 😎 👍
undone pumice
lucid walrus
makes no sense why it is. they just get to play keep-away assuming you even notice it and then one of you is randomly dead
pale minnow
why they have to make so retarded game designs?
raw summit
its a meme oneshot build
wet scarab
now you feel like all those mobs in mythic dungeons
getting one shot aoe by some asshole in the back
spice hornet
cant wait for 9.2 to finally come out next tuesday
been awhile since we've had a patch
runic galleon
is fury really the way to go now ?
sharp meteor
intervene them towards the end of the kidney so they can't be sapped off and they'll swoon
full quiver
7 sec kidney into sap 😎 👍
Our healer was playing 2s with a rogue and queued into a hunter using Cc lasts longer trinket
Got him in a 9s kidney lmao
fiery walrus
twilit ridge
Got him in a 9s kidney lmao
I can coach you For free
twilit ridge
i've just been doing 1 vault a week
I'm taking a break from WoW
twilit ridge
true
people get carried by comp or straight bought glad
It's like when you fight an RMP comp thats 200 cr higher than you and you get 30 points
twilit ridge
I started farming warriors around 2500
they would disarm on cd
press everything at once
especially the necro warriors
It's crazy with how many people dont know how to disarm with WAs
I farmed tf out of this one warrior with the WOD elite set playing turbo/TSG
full quiver
yeah i felt like you could bladestorm a lot of disarms lol
sharp meteor
i do appreciate how much the red power ranger set tilts other warriors
legion elite sets too
raw summit
Can confirm, i was the necro war
full quiver
how do we play vs affli/hpriest in 2s right now with rsham healer
raw summit
People that have seen one oneshot Clip and think that's meta
nimble jasper
run at priest
full quiver
do i just have to line until 6 mins and hope to one shot
we tried going warlock using both kicks but homie could never hex priest and guy just did like 40% more dam than me lol
twilit ridge
yeah i felt like you could bladestorm a lot of disarms lol
Yes
twilit ridge
i do appreciate how much the red power ranger set tilts other warriors
Based lol
nimble jasper
hpriest aff players
twilit ridge
how do we play vs affli/hpriest in 2s right now with rsham healer
Do 3s not 2s, you know this scoob
nimble jasper
who think they’re big brain q’ing with resolve trinket
get emoted when they lose
and the bag
twilit ridge
my favorite is rmp players
who get mad for dying when they fuck up for the 200th time
full quiver
Do 3s not 2s, you know this scoob
i'm just doing the 1 vault a week
until i can get full tier set and stuff
twilit ridge
Non hero scoob moment
full quiver
lol
twilit ridge
But ye I get you
full quiver
i'm so burnt out
twilit ridge
I just can't go back to 2s at all
full quiver
elden ring so much more fun
full quiver
i did for like 2 weeks
dumpstering people at 1600 in 2s is fun tho
until you queue into warlock lmfao
twilit ridge
Imagine being a warlock player
nimble jasper
low rated rmps
have huge egos
for no reason
how tf you have an ego when you gap every stun
my fucking eyes
undone pumice
they think theyre playing a skillful comp?
nimble jasper
i mean i dont even like playing rmp
undone pumice
can actually confirm my brothers play rogue mage
undone pumice
and my brother isnt a good mage
twilit ridge
I used to play rogue, was never the best
nimble jasper
in the first 2mins
twilit ridge
But at least I could set up properly
twilit ridge
You'd think this
nimble jasper
and db sheep is guaranteed to land
twilit ridge
But you have to think like a mage
nimble jasper
i mean you watch an r1 mage
they’ll resheep mid bust
thats part of the reason low rated mages are low rated
nimble jasper
i mean you do it
busting without cc is a waste
also not like you need more than 3 globals in bust to kill someone
undone pumice
b u s t i n g
wet scarab
I bet they even have the WA announcing combust
I do feel bad for RM comps in 2s that haven't made elite yet, it's like the vast majority don't understand how bladestorm works
I just played a few games around rival and the number of them who sap a paladin and get caught along with the mage in the instant bladestorm and waste kidney and DB is embarrassing
sweet sluice
are we sticking with enduring blow on the helmet?
quaint snow
Every single team I vs rides out on glad mounts at 1600 mmr so tired of this
dude i feel you, its a JOKE
quaint snow
are we sticking with enduring blow on the helmet?
EB on waist is the play i heard
spice hornet
we are too squishy into rogue/mage
i legit just die 100 to 0 with them not even pressing any cds
in a dance go
wet scarab
do you guys have a WA that reminds you to disarm during imp cooldowns and tracks when the debuff falls off
you know like during combust >_>
elder wigeon
What’re you talking about
undone pumice
WA that tells you to use dbts
wet scarab
I think I'm timing disarms on rogues and DKs wrong
warrior DH enh are fine
I just want to time the disarm better during their offensive cooldowns
I was joking about the combust
elder wigeon
Disarm dance disarm pillar of frost
Or disarm rogue to deny setups when their priest or mage uses db or chastise or when rogue blinds
elder wigeon
Duel is dogs shit into rmp
wet scarab
it's 2s
elder wigeon
It’s dogshit
wet scarab
is it ever not dogshit? against ret?
wet scarab
I don't think I'm at the skillcap necessary to play banner very well
elder wigeon
Gotta get used to it
wet scarab
what's your general strategy with it
sharp meteor
fling it down prior to a go and hope they throw their shit into it
usually when somebody telegraphs it by starting something
team off dr, mage shimmers towards somebody to db
drop banner
if they fling anything into it the go can just end
sharp meteor
I don’t play duel ever anymore
yeah cool button when everybody runs at warr
sharp meteor
yeah sharpen not useful into shielding
still good into holy rm i think
just not disc or 2s
elder wigeon
I’m assuming you use it instead of sharpen in RM matches?
Only into 2’s rm
I run sharpen in 3’s
nimble jasper
mage is mostly shielding
and rogue as long as he gets away he tops himself regardless
fierce elm
2s is c r i n g e
wet scarab
I want to get to 2400 for max conduits eventually
vocal frigate
What's the buy order for conq
raw summit
wep>
elder wigeon
Weapon above all else, the rest is up to you based on your luck with tier set
elder wigeon
the best tier set slots are helm and shoulder, I would highly highly recommend using those slots over anything else, chest legs and gaunts are wildcard, chest is the worst statted IMO however
Helm, Shoulders >> Legs > Gaunts > Chest
in terms of tier set, not conquest pieces
sharp meteor
What's the buy order for conq
wep next week if u don't get out of box
vocal frigate
I already got a 272 vers weapon
elder wigeon
you're gonna want 285
raw summit
from box
undone pumice
box?
wet scarab
it doesn't turn into tier if you buy it from the conquest vendor
I made that same mistake >_>
it's only a tier piece upgradeable with honor if you get it directly from the pvp slots of the vault
vocal frigate
Yeah you can't turn conq vendor gear into tier until week 8
vocal frigate
holy fuck I was running Dragon Roar as a meme for EM pubstomps and it clobbered a druid for 39K
What the hell is that
undone pumice
triple crit dmg
vocal frigate
I didn't think it was that triple god damn
wet scarab
I wish we had dragon roar for arms
and it would work like bosses
silence if enemies are casting
vocal frigate
But then warriors would be literally anything more than a punching bag that hits really hard if you get too close
and blizz doesn't like that
undone pumice
warr shouldnt be stronger imo
like he shouldnt be given more tools
he should just have
more than 5 buttons
undone pumice
i want old stances
spice hornet
remembe those banners we had
and we could intervene them
kekw
one was like 10% DR
one was mass taunt
and then one was the crit dam one
modern wigeon
Death sentence + Spear leggo dragon roar crits
timid geode
what best covenant for arms pvp ? also is fury still shit for arenas?
sharp meteor
probably kyrian/necro, and no fury is fine/good
undone pumice
fury is budget arms
sharp meteor
idk about that
raw summit
FrEnZiEd ReGeN
full quiver
U don't wanna kill yourself when you die through dstance and parry
Cause you don't have either
sharp meteor
it's either that or wanting to kys urself because u have to sit dstance for tiny wall or else die
full quiver
Lol
elder wigeon
i mean if the enemy team has a brain they'll soothe your enrages off
really fucks you hard
raw summit
there goes ur warpaint
raw summit
would you rather face hpriest
undone pumice
i would rather
reroll mage
than be forced into fury
vs hpriest/druid each game
full quiver
Everyone reroll survival hunter or hpriest
sharp meteor
hmm can break roots versus surv at least
although really regardless of the spec you play
2s is just the inferior bracket
undone pumice
i genuinely feel not a lot of classes have less defensives than warrior
how wrong am i
raw summit
Well the shire amount isnt there but parry is insane
undone pumice
but bubble can block more stuff
elder wigeon
Rogues can shiv your enrage off as well
sharp meteor
Yeah, not ideal having your warpaint ripped off as you get put in a kidney.
wet scarab
It’s nice to be able to use your defensive when stunned
undone pumice
true but
wet scarab
And to self heal after your healer is root beamed into clone into hex into capacitor
undone pumice
you still get melted
and bloodthrist healing is someehat negligible outside of regen
wet scarab
You don’t really melt that much faster than arms
The main disadvantage is the lack of freedom in switching around pvp talents
undone pumice
true
wet scarab
And fewer peels off your teammates if you want to self heal properly
undone pumice
i feel someehat locked into the same 3 talents
meaning i am unable to take banner or disarm
wet scarab
It’s either bolt or self heal, and you can’t really take disarm
Exactly
Individual surv feels same to me atm
spice hornet
I take disarm into other warrior, rogue, dk
undone pumice
and maybe solo shuffle
spice hornet
I think that it
undone pumice
what talent do u replace then
enduring rage, slaughterhousr and battle trance seem irreplaceable
undone pumice
BIG rip
sharp meteor
how do they make it work bros
hpriest version is actually
SO digust and the nerfs do nothing
fk
graceful quarry
what game am I playing <:keks:936231610850897992>
nah dw rmp is fiiine
lunar crow
what second lego we craft like kyrian warr?
dark sparrow
EB
golden folio
do tier sets work in rated pvp
raw summit
Yes
frank knoll
Is RMP that busted or is it just really popular
fickle forge
Wild guess my dude
iron basalt
Does anyone else think the four piece set bonus doesn’t seem that good? The 2 set seems nice
jagged cedar
Is RMP that busted or is it just really popular
both ? haha
placid whale
hey does someone know how the website is called where i can see what covenant soulbind etc ppl play in arena?
placid whale
ahh thanks
wet scarab
don't worry bois if you don't get a tier piece or weapon this vault you're gonna be able to get sockets before everyone else!
nimble jasper
arent servers not up
wet scarab
supposed to be back up at 11 EST
but they also announced vault reward changes
if you get garbage you can get tokens for rep or sockets
wet scarab
excited that enh shamans will be killable again this week
fierce elm
probably not still
iron basalt
should I get crit or mastery weapon as necrolord?
warped warren
crit
jagged cedar
im torn between ret/enh/warrior i cant make up my mind on what to main lol
sharp meteor
dang another 2h out of vault is this a sign to go fury
ancient sonnet
yes
sharp meteor
oh my second warrior also got a second 2h i guess at least one goes fury
spice hornet
is kalvish ever not playing this game
like jesus christ man
its like hes q'ingevry bracket 24/7
sharp meteor
good time to be playin rogue
ancient sonnet
Isn't Kalvish like 16... what else is he gonna do
spice hornet
what time zone is in because i ran into him in 2s an hour ago kekw does he not go to school
ancient sonnet
He just plays in class
At least according to his stream. He could be trolling but seems legit
wet scarab
fuckin A the tier pvp slots scale in pvp as well didn't know that
265 pc is 278 in arena
this... will be fucked up for the more op tier sets lmao
minor vector
It’s not like the bonus itself scales, just makes the slot not dead for non-mythic raiders
wet scarab
it's still a shit ton of secondary stats
minor vector
Like any other piece of pvp gear
wet scarab
nevermind lol
clever fern
is there any guide for wich legendaries craft/use next week ?
severe skiff
Enduring blow on the waist + covenant on a non tier slot is the best all rounder for arms
clever fern
Enduring blow on the waist + covenant on a non tier slot is the best all rounder...
waist+ring should be fine ?
severe skiff
You can now buy socket items so its not super important to make legendary on a socket slot
formal summit
Leggos on socket slots come with them I think
severe skiff
they do, was more of a perk when season3 socket item didn't exist since it was the only way to 100% a socket in those slots
everyone gets full 6/6 sockets in season3 from vault eventually without going out of their way to farm them this time
wet scarab
I am approaching bruin levels of rage over demon hunters
I also now just afk demo lock matches
vague crater
whats the best comps for arms atm?
wet scarab
after dying twice to a resto shaman DH, I got catharsis in a surv rdruid game of all places. was so pissed I murdered the hunter's pet twice, then got a spear bomb at the corner where he was reviving and he died in the middle of the cast
so fucking satisfying
undone pumice
wet scarab
need some advice on what to buy with conq. I have tier legs and gloves and a 268 haste vers weapon, any suggestions?
feel like chest or bracers might be the play
though maybe I should save for the 2H since it's like 278 as rival
I did a stupid and bought shoulders before thinking it would be a tier piece when upgraded based on malicious disinfo -_-
so can't buy a weapon this week
ancient sonnet
Got tier pants this week and gloves last week. Pretty shit stats but at least it gives 2pc. I imagine it doesn't but does 2pc work with Enduring Blow's smash?
ancient sonnet
So it adds 3 seconds to that smash too?
wet scarab
since the debuff is longer with the 2pc and you can get it with MS
yeah
if the debuff is already up it extends it
jaunty furnace
Should I save up to get the conquest weapon? Still using one from last season
ancient sonnet
yes
severe skiff
unless they changed it since ptr it doesn't extend enduring proc duration, does add the 5% extra damage to it though
ancient sonnet
Would be pretty insane if it did imo
spice hornet
ran into uh hero cleave with 2 sets
they just pve me down
nothing i can do
kill through heal spam
since warrior has no choice but to sit pathetic d stance and get fucked on
jagged cedar
ran into uh hero cleave with 2 sets
unholy that stronk?
sage raptor
Unholy very strong rn
jagged cedar
Unholy very strong rn
how would you put them next to ret ?
sage raptor
Well. Unholy doesn't one shot but it might as well.
sage raptor
I'd say if you put ret at S tier (for hypothetical reasons) unholy would probably be like A or something. Assuming this is 2s. No one really knows for sure. Especially so early in the season.
Does anyone have a 4 set?
Outside of rwf
sharp meteor
some raiders ya
sage raptor
Meanwhile I'm struggling for one piece.
spice hornet
lol
it is way too easy to kill warrior right now
dh with 2pc tier hitting 15k blade dance on me
one slash
sage raptor
Tbf, depending on what you play it always has been.
Delete DH from the game plz. Thanks
spice hornet
then q into venruki on forst mage with supa on boomy running double resolve
doing 9k dps
each
20k frostbolts
the dmg just happens btw no setup
sharp meteor
uh it's kind of like bfa destro
spice hornet
yep its pretty unfair
sharp meteor
actually eh kind of worse as less control and less passively durable but more slows and there's all the rng roots
having to hard run on skele/veins is kind of a must tho heh
30ish seconds of actual terror
had a game the other day that ended about a minute in and i was at like 19k dps
enemy rsham grounded 150k with a single totem
nimble jasper
actually eh kind of worse as less control and less passively durable but more sl...
know what i dont wanna see
double lego 4p nf assa+kyrian hpriest
monkaW damage
brave rune
What 2 Hander should I get for Fury PVP?
Go mastery/vers? Cause of the higher mastery?
And vers is lower due to the double tier set?
brave rune
2H Sword would be better for Arms/Kyrian tho right
sharp meteor
with the 1h agi
real gorge
so i have my enduring blow on waist, can i get the 2nd leggo thing into it ?
sharp meteor
ye probably
real gorge
do i need rep to get it? or just chapter 7 done ?
ancient sonnet
need revered to move it off waist slot
real gorge
so for getting it on waist i just need 7 chapter done ?
brave rune
mastery for sure
can anyone else confirm?
ancient sonnet
so for getting it on waist i just need 7 chapter done ?
If you complete chapter 7 on any character, all characters can get the unity belt (covenant legendary) and equip another lego in a diff slot
real gorge
so i'd need to change my enduring blow from waist to somewhere else?
real gorge
i thought the unity was applied into my enduring blow waist
ancient sonnet
which means revered required to put unity lego on ring etc
ancient sonnet
i thought the unity was applied into my enduring blow waist
Nope unity is always your cov legendary
sharp meteor
yeah mog in shambles
real gorge
Nope unity is always your cov legendary
yes i know but i heard the unity was applied to an already crafted leggo?
or im maybe so wrong
ancient sonnet
that is incorrect
sharp meteor
wha
real gorge
i dont understand anything duh
real gorge
so for necro i use enduring blow on my waist rn, and for kyrian i have big spear on my legs