pvp

[sharp meteor]

it SEEMS to be direct hits

so crane kick pets etc

[nimble jasper]

oh

so its only good in pvp ig

xd

[sharp meteor]

NOT dots? i think

so it's like super baby thorns but it's either that or 8% move

speed probs the play

but i wanna b sure

[nimble jasper]

speed the play for most classes

i feel

oh dear

monks and dhs gonna be ZOOMIN

this season

[tawdry stag]

do you guys enjoy playing warrior this season?

arenas

[nimble jasper]

its ok if you avoid 2s

[tawdry stag]

fair enough

was really excitied to get back to my war

and I rage quit from 2s 😄

[glass sparrow]

we are waaaaaay worse in 2s this season. It is so noticable lol

😦

[tawdry stag]

non warrior players still think we are op

and should be nerfed

[glass sparrow]

lmao

[nimble jasper]

hunter is the king of 2s

warrior kinda good in low rated 2s cuz people trash

[tawdry stag]

up to 1500 you can oneshiot everything

on 1700 3k players playing 😄

[nimble jasper]

depends what bracket

in 1700 for 2s people are still shit

[wheat jay]

I've met r1 players on mains at 1700-1800 :(

[nimble jasper]

yeah

q into actual surv/rdruid team in 2s

is /afk

[wheat jay]

[jaunty furnace]

how bad are 3s right now?

Still vsing glads and rank 1s at 1500 mmr?

[cosmic pumice]

YES

AND BOOSTERS ONLY

FK GAME

boosters every game, bald men 40 yrs old, gg game

game is sucks

[pale minnow]

I would say if you were glad last season as warrior and now you can't reach at least duelist you are unworthy, boosted by inflated rating. A good warrior is always good no matter how shit it is compared to the meta, you can hit at least duelist at the start of season, it's all about if you learn your own mistakes and improve.

[lucid walrus]

back to s1 rhetoric

nice

[full quiver]

Lol

[undone pumice]

so guys we did it

we made warrior bfa s4 levels of shit again

[cosmic pumice]

i got glad last season and am now stuck 1700

because i play every game vs r1s

[pale minnow]

Explain to me your logic

[undone pumice]

i get 1 shot through defensives

feels like bfa

[pale minnow]

In bfa it was damp meta

[undone pumice]

not in 2s

i would simply

get hit by infinite stars

and be removed from the arena

[glass orchid]

warrior is shit but not bfa s4 shit

in fact warrior is balance atm, just bunch of shit thats unbalanced

[undone pumice]

but if most other stuff is unbalanced

isnt warrior unbalanced

but in the other direction

[glass orchid]

just rmp and dhs seem outta line atm

and hunters

and hpriest needs a big nerf

[nimble jasper]

no one used stars outside of rat mmr

[undone pumice]

rat mrr

is all mmr

[nimble jasper]

people played gush if we're talking damage corruptions

or pre icd, twisted appendage

[jaunty furnace]

Should I spend my 1350 conquest or wait till I can get the weapon

[pale minnow]

Wait for weapon

1 -2 piece won't change the outcome of the game so just be patiant

[jaunty furnace]

How are people so bad from LFG holy moly

[lucid walrus]

worst thing that happens from saving esp since it's midweek is you get weapon for sure on reset

if not out of box (inshallah)

[sage raptor]

So like almost everyone here? Lol

[pale minnow]

Yeah, half of the people changed to other classes, fake warriors especially who played it only for the meta

Everyone who's a warrior fanatic should prove to clowns who doubted them of reaching something that they can do it even when the class ain't meta, yeah right you don't need to prove anything to anyone i got my own demons as everyone else

[sage raptor]

Relied too much on the one-shot cheese and amazing defensives.

[brave rune]

Yall getting your Neck/Ring first for Conq gear? Or saving conq for 2H weapon?

[tardy geyser]

im trying rend as kyrian Haste/vers war with enduring below its really good give it a try guys

[pale minnow]

Same playing Eb as kyrian and baiting cd's with spear

[tardy geyser]

they use everything in spear xD

Then i can just make them suffer with consistent dmg with rend

[pale minnow]

Rend works even better on plate classes

[tardy geyser]

yea it shines VS melee cleaves

its always my 3rd dmg

also makes your Overpower hits harder cause of crit effect

[full quiver]

Lol sounds like you just keep trying to donvince yourself to play it

[simple rock]

how does turbo beat shadowplay

getting completely farmed

by every shadowplay lmao

[sharp meteor]

what healer

in general i think it doesn't

but mw if you're conq banner and witchbones feels fine just training sp

enh can send shears into ua and healer cycles through dispels on them to keep pressure down a bit

[simple rock]

nah playing with hpal

think that's one of the main issues

they struggle vs ua

[wet scarab]

phew, made it to rival

90% of matches I played tonight had a holy priest, but most of them were against casters

this is in 2s

even ran into a necro fire mage

with the amount of warlocks I really wish my hpriest friend would go back to maining his MW -_-

[pale minnow]

Nah, I enjoy it

[wet scarab]

Need some advice, I got my second tier piece from the raid but it’s legs and gloves so overlap with Kyrian, wonder if I should go necro until I get unity

But it feels really hard to lock down people as necro

I played the 2 pc into DKs and DHs and the burst just destroyed them

Worth abandoning Kyrian for a while?

The tier pieces are just 252

[fickle forge]

I mean kyrian and necro are roughly equal, so you can just go ahead and do that

[wet scarab]

Dps difference looks like it’s worth it for the ilvl drop and vers loss?

[warm pollen]

What’s the best trinket for warriors from new zone

Bomb ?

I’m kyrian

[warm pollen]

Bomb or aegis ?

[severe skiff]

so is arms pretty much locked into playing with an Rdruid in 2s now? literally nothing else seems to be able to keep up with the literal dicking vs all the rogue/hunter/dh teams

[spice hornet]

i just got 100-0d by a sub rogue

only used blades and bomb

some lame ass fucking convoke feral running the unkickable trinket and sub roggue team

[earnest thorn]

So it was blades and convoke?

[elder wigeon]

I'm doing fine with rsham in 2's

[high kindle]

have you guys thought about the bis list? which parts will be tierset and which for lego?

[fickle forge]

I'm sure somebody could write it

You'll prob have to ask the val'kyrs kindly to update info etc.

[sly furnace]

feels like we are still crafting might on legs. the tier set got crit/haste stats ?

[elder wigeon]

why would you craft might on legs

you can't equip two legendaries without unity

unity = might

[quaint snow]

EB on belt, unity on wrist, ring for example

[high kindle]

I was thinking about unity on chest because most stats and shit stats on the tier piecem and enduring blow on belt

tier helm has versa/haste on it

[fickle forge]

If you put it on chest, I don't think you have enough tier pieces?

Don't recall the slots

[dense dagger]

there are 5

u only need 4

[high kindle]

only 2 tier pieces have versa (heml and shoulders), so I think those 2 are locked

[fickle forge]

They are ideal at least

[high kindle]

enduring can only be put on helm or belt, so I guess it should go belt then

gloves can also potentially be unity slot because tier set gloves has crit/mastery

[quaint snow]

EB on belt, unity on ring, wrist, boots

for arms

[elder wigeon]

unity on chest will make most people have to move their mirror to another slot

well not most, literally everybody

[high kindle]

idk, we will be using unity 100% of the time while mirror is super optional

i think it makes sense to have it on chest (unity)

but i guess it will not make a huge difference

unity feels a bit more flexible, which is nice

[elder wigeon]

you can just use regular pvp gear on chest if you're that concerned with it

[high kindle]

not that I am concerned, just curious, at least for a fact we know that EB will go on belt 😄

[elder wigeon]

sure, but not next week unless somehow you're revered

[high kindle]

nah, still 4,5k short

[elder wigeon]

going hard on the rep farm I see

[high kindle]

not really, just doing WQs every day 😄

no dailies, no rares

[elder wigeon]

interesting

[quaint snow]

hmm i also did that and i think i have more rep open

[elder wigeon]

i haven't been doing the world quests that much

[quaint snow]

6380 / 12k

but did nothing today yet

[high kindle]

btw guys, will unity be required to use? or it wont matter which 2 legos u use?

as long as one is covenant specific

[elder wigeon]

yes you have to use unity + something else

you cannot equip a covenant legendary + another, i know, stupid

[high kindle]

damn.. that is stupid

[prime bridge]

anyone know what the next weeks Conquest cap will be?

[tough pewter]

Which spec for tbgs

Rbgs

[azure willow]

is there a weak aura to track when someone is using the stop cc trinket and when its active ?

this thing is making me crazy

[elder wigeon]

1900, 1350 + 550

[silent chasm]

What to play with 4 set in 2s?

[earnest thorn]

Unity on wrist, eb on belt, you get 2 sockets this way

[elder wigeon]

can do it one step smarter, put it on ring to double stack preferred stats, such as crit or haste

[vapid rover]

Personnaly i would go unity on belt and EB on helm x) still have socket

[jaunty furnace]

warrior just dies now in arena

I’m dying through parry and D stance

[sharp meteor]

certainly have to be careful

[tawdry stag]

I just hope its going to chnage with gear increase

[shy aurora]

Yo bois. Cant Get tier set from doing the weekly 4x mythic quest? Tryna figure out if its worth doing it

[ancient sonnet]

You cannot get tier from the quest reward. But if you knock out 4 M+ you get 2 vault slots and that quest done. If you happen to get tier from M+ vault slots you can upgrade it with valor. IMO thats the play.

[wet scarab]

I think you actually can get tier from it but it's a pretty low drop rate

like 6%

[clear pine]

how to counter shaman static field totem? do charge/leap work?

[sharp meteor]

turn and kill it

[undone pumice]

totem killing guide pls

[vital pagoda]

Any necro furys here? Is there any way to macro banner and recklessness so that it would cast banner first and recklessness then since reck is of gcd so they would pop simultaneously?

I've tried
/Cast conq banner
/Cast reck
And vice versa but still I need to atleast press it twice with a delay.

[clear pine]

obvious yeah. but does charge or leap work?

[vital pagoda]

Easy

Use spell reflect

And walk out

Ur welcome

[clear pine]

haha thanks

thats neat

[vital pagoda]

Np

[undone pumice]

they pop it with flameshock

[vital pagoda]

Now answer my question

[undone pumice]

[clear pine]

Im sure the macro should work. I have banner, orc racial and reck in same macro

[vital pagoda]

Well that mean shaman ur fighting has a brain and we don't like those.

[vital pagoda]

Wtf

Paste

I'm doing something wrong

[clear pine]

Its german it wont work for you, I would test it but im kyrian now

[vital pagoda]

I'm pretty sure u can't macro it so that it requires only one press or I'm just clueless

[vital pagoda]

Doichlander

😂🤣

[clear pine]

[undone pumice]

deutschland deutschland über alles

[clear pine]

we not allowed to say that

[undone pumice]

[craggy socket]

What classes do you guys suspect with tier and double legso is gonnna be S-Tier?

[wheat jay]

rogue

as always

xD

[undone pumice]

rog

mage

uhh probably feral

[fierce elm]

Warrior

Enhance

Ret

[sharp meteor]

fdk is gonna b sweet

[warped warren]

just press when youre off gcd

🙂

[warm sigil]

do we arlready know what leg combo we are gonna run wiith arms

as kyrianb

[sharp meteor]

enduring almost every game yeah

[agile eagle]

Okay question boys, currently I’m Ven with the condem lego. Going into 9.2 I do mostly 2s with a resto druid, should I stay Ven or go kyrian or necro? What’s best I was leaning toward necro?

[sharp meteor]

u find a third and do 3s because 2s is sadness

maybe feral makes it fun idk

also kyrian and necro both fine although imo kyrian more flexible

[agile eagle]

Lol okay but for mainly 2s any are fine pretty much? Seems like with double Lego kyrian wins hands down but ven isn’t terrible with condem extending CS. And I like 2s because I play with a friend who isn’t a pussy and cries every other game like 99% of lfg

[twilit ridge]

LFG is hit or miss

I got my gladiator through LFG

but always do 3s

never do 2s

3s=Gladiator

2s=pain

[wet scarab]

is there a way to make totems more obvious? can't see them with the default plates, any particular addon that's good to use?

[jaunty furnace]

Not for this season, it’s nothing but DHs priests rogues mages and rets

Doing triple everyone’s damage

[nimble jasper]

thats the case for dh only really

dh is like 2x next person’s damage

[jaunty furnace]

Yeah it’s insane

[nimble jasper]

dont stack on your healer

thats usually one of the main causes

[sharp meteor]

had a few games the other day where i did do the damage of the entire enemy team

havoc is just so funny, can't wait to get tier

[nimble jasper]

yeah low mmr as alot of specs

is big funny

[sharp meteor]

had a game vs a retwarr where i got a demon in opener, and i was playing glaive temptest

hit them so hard that shaman had to link

[nimble jasper]

low mmr tsg 3s

[sharp meteor]

and stand in the tempest

[nimble jasper]

triple spear

into sweeping and bs

well placements

triple kill opener xd

[twilit ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

it always be like that

dont let that stop you from Glad

fuck all those lame classes

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

weakest warrior player

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-20155686

strongest rogue player

[wet scarab]

sorry once again, any advice for a nameplate addon that shows shaman totems?

[minor vector]

threat plates is a solid one

Bit confusing at first but once you get the hang of it there’s a ton of customization

[wet scarab]

thank you! will check it out

[spice hornet]

2s rn is just like bfa s4 all over again

dhs

rogues

and hutners

[undone pumice]

bfa s4

epic

[nimble jasper]

s4 was destro every other game

[undone pumice]

haha boom

mogambogmibokglla

[raw summit]

threatplates and grab bajheera profile

[undone pumice]

same but

[nimble jasper]

rogue vs lock 2s in bfa s4

[undone pumice]

i dont see totems with it

[nimble jasper]

top meme content

[raw summit]

fuck that map 🤝

[undone pumice]

[raw summit]

i do idk bout u

[nimble jasper]

afk behind pillar poison knifing

when kidney wasnt up

to proc gush

[raw summit]

well i disabled it cuz annoying

[undone pumice]

i love bfa s4

i love corruptions

[raw summit]

base nameplate and eyes is how i do it

[nimble jasper]

only funny memory of bfa s4

[undone pumice]

i love corruptions dealing 75% of everyone's damage

[nimble jasper]

empowered reap vs pet classes

reap drest hunter 80-0

in 1 gcd

[undone pumice]

scaling

was

also

a thing

i loved seeing someone in boe ilvl 350 greens

walk up

to a ilvl 480

fully socketed

bised

the

[nimble jasper]

[undone pumice]

fuck out

and 1 shot them

[nimble jasper]

the scaling thing was largely blown out of proportion

was still better to be full sockets

[undone pumice]

yeah but

scaling can smd

outside of

arena skirmish

[nimble jasper]

[undone pumice]

scaling shouldnt

exist in rated

[nimble jasper]

spiting warlock teams

was great

[undone pumice]

MLD

on mogmalobogla

[nimble jasper]

mld and splay players

so bad LOL

triple spite sap opener

kidney bomb so he cant gate

silence him too so no wall

dead opener

[undone pumice]

rogue 1 shots are my spirit animal

not the rogue doing it

but the guy getting 1 shot

[wet scarab]

I'm gonna go ahead and say it but warrior tier set in-game doesn't look bad on nelf

[undone pumice]

ur gonna go ahead and lie*

[nimble jasper]

they really need to go back

and make dance a real cd though

shadow dance being a non cd makes that entire fucking spec a slope of impossible to balance

[undone pumice]

we need to give

arms

uhh

furious slash from bfa fury

[spice hornet]

but rogue would be unplayable without being able to cheap the whole team

[nimble jasper]

not like you do that rn

321 chastise fear

db sheep

fact you can burn blind to just hold someone in place while waiting for their dr to drop is big

[wet scarab]

looking at the s3 ladder so far, hpriests are 15% of spec representation above duelist

from rival up they're 14%, double the next one which is havoc DH at 7%

surely the 1 pvp dev out there sees this?

that's for 2v2

3v3 though we seem to be still be pumping

arms is highest spec represented 1800+

same with duelist

so it doesn't seem like things are that bad for us atm?

[spice hornet]

warrior always has high rep its one ofthe most played classes in the game

[wheat jay]

Its also strong now

So ye

Good specs always have highest rep

[fickle forge]

Why did BFA warrior have high rep then

Why did BFA DH have low rep?

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge

https://youtu.be/r7l0Rq9E8MY

[tough pewter]

What's the rbg spec right now with 2 piece

[sharp meteor]

aaaa enh nerfs shambles

i need to stock up on energy drinks stop showering and become a dh main

[wheat jay]

You need to weigh like 120kg

0 muscles

[elder wigeon]

be a man and play warrior

[nimble cypress]

dont know what comps you guys are playing but i have the feeling i am running half of the game atm playing tsg

give me some hopium

[elder wigeon]

zero hopium

you're the kill target in every comp

sooner people realize you just fall over and die after parry the more it'll happen

[sharp meteor]

and if you don't fall over you sit d and do no dam

while havoc/ret/wizards whizzle on you for like 6k dps the whole game

FEELS AWFUL MANG

[elder wigeon]

we press on

[nimble cypress]

yeah. seriously considering to swap. 2000 3v3 in eu seems really rough. Every second game i am lowest damage and die anyway. But my rdruid also said his healing is shit atm

[earnest thorn]

every second game aint that bad

[nimble cypress]

like you need a hybrid next to you to help with keeping you alive

every second game feels unwinable from a numbers perspective. but ye we played tsg with rdruid which obviously is not an S tier comp^^

[lucid walrus]

76sec wall will help guys

press it on cd and you're taking 70% damage for 10% of the game

[nimble cypress]

also queued multiple times into a dh/prot/holy priest team. that was just an amazing experience

all very rought 😄

i told my dk, if i will have to run half of the game i might as well play a class that's good at it. So dh is getting ready

[quaint snow]

i hate hunters

[wet scarab]

BM hunters are actually catching me by surprise with how much damage they are doing. End of last season I felt I could usually safely ignore them but I don’t know why all of a sudden they are hitting a lot harder

They certainly felt like the least threatening of the hunter specs

Do these fire mage nerfs look substantial

They seem like just minor things at the margins

[sharp meteor]

30% haste and pouch

ur face gon get cranked boi

BIGLY kill shots

[midnight zinc]

@nimble cypress just tell nantou to heal more

[wet scarab]

Tier bonus?

[elder wigeon]

pouch is the venthyr legendary

[sharp meteor]

pouch is the venthyr leggo that causes kill shot procs from flayed shot to put a dot on the target and those around them (up to 6?) for 60% of the kill shot dam

so basically you'll already do some of the highest sustained single target while not being disrupted by being trained and you can't be kicked

and it'll also cleave somewhat

so much dam

[earnest thorn]

well hey theyre nerfing fire mage, so thats a good hit of hopium

[sharp meteor]

it's so annoying that they can't nerf stuff like db cd

because that'd require making a pve chaange

[earnest thorn]

id take a chastise nerf

but yea

pvp balance is always 2nd

[sharp meteor]

so it's like they don't wanna change how an ability works in one more if at all possible

like imagine if zoning into a bg or tagging somebody in wm doubled the cd on your kidney

or reduced the range on your chastise by half

this is why we only get certain kind of nerfs

[jaunty furnace]

Is it crit versa for stat priority?

[earnest thorn]

if you use elysian might usually yea

but you can do fine with haste hers or a balance of both

[sharp meteor]

can play w/e stats u want

i think haste is nice for consistency and enduring

crit nice for big spear or unhinged conq goes

[earnest thorn]

ive had games where warbringer was #2 on my dmg lol crit charges feelsgood

[sharp meteor]

ya crit feels nice with modifiers, so conq avatar kyrian empower dark arc etc just 1-bang somebody

just kind of a different playstyle

power in goes so ideally setting up for them

[plain wing]

i have no reasoning for this and im garbo at pvp

but i think necro arms is gonna pump more than peeeps think

idk

[sharp meteor]

ya i think it'll be fine especially if all the shit that gets out of spear instantly rises up

[plain wing]

1 week till unban bois

[sharp meteor]

actual dead button in some matchups

[wet scarab]

If people are a bit more intentional with spear usage they’d get a lot more value out of it

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor more i think about it

the more NF assa with 4p and double lego scares me

lmao

[compact pelican]

any tips on facing surv/heals guys

[earnest thorn]

spear his ass right after feign death

misshapen can be good

i usually sit hunter

[frank knoll]

Enhance got nerfed
Turbo is canceled

[elder wigeon]

good riddance

nerf rets next

[frank knoll]

They’ll do that

But won’t touch Rogue, mage or hunter

[earnest thorn]

I mean they nerfed fire mage 3 hours ago

[undone pumice]

turbo cancelled

time for lumberyack cleave

[frank knoll]

@ndogofury let’s go

[undone pumice]

i play luberyack with phil

unironically

[wild mantle]

What’s everyone binds to tilde key?

[lucid walrus]

none

[minor vector]

kick

[undone pumice]

link details

[earnest thorn]

tilde is my zerker rage

[frank knoll]

H priest dodging bullets lol

[jaunty furnace]

What legendary are people using?

[sharp meteor]

Heroic throw.

[vital pagoda]

Well did I ask for that? i want them to be cast within one press of button so I was thinking should I run castsequense or are they able to be macroed some other way so that it will first cast conq banner and then reck so I can have that QoL button.

So I've tried both

/Cast Conqueror's Banner(Necrolord)
/Cast recklessness

And

/Cast recklessness
/Cast Conqueror's Banner(Necrolord)

First one isn't popping reck until I press again and second isn't popping conq until I press again

And since reck isn't on GCD? It should be able to cast both right?

Fml

Help 🤣

[warped warren]

and i told you the answer

[vital pagoda]

So it is not possible?

To have them casted at same time.

Rip swoftymacro

[lucid walrus]

pretty sure you can. just takes 2 buttons

= pointless macro

[warped warren]

like what, works perfectly fine

i press once, does both

i dont see the problem

[lucid walrus]

in theory it works fine ya. that's why i'm confused

reck off gcd and banner off gcd

[warped warren]

?

[lucid walrus]

er

banner no

[warped warren]

banner is on gcd

you just have to press it when youre not on the global

[lucid walrus]

brain autofilled that sentence

[warped warren]

❓

[lucid walrus]

skill issue ig

[shy aurora]

Just got back to the game really. Which warrior streamers is still active i could watch?

[elder wigeon]

Magnusz, Mudcx, Mercedesa, Revololwarrior, Smexxin

[steep inlet]

and Ndogo

[fickle forge]

Ndogo's youtube channel is def the best source

[compact pelican]

against feral hrpiest who's kill target

[elder wigeon]

I kill feral

[north thicket]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[fierce elm]

lmao

is this a copypasta

[compact pelican]

fury is the way

[warped warren]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

it is now

[unkempt dock]

Why would someone prefer enduring blow to bladestorm lego ?

[tired portal]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[fickle forge]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[raw summit]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[quasi lotus]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[quaint snow]

whats his youtube, cant find? 😄

[scarlet barn]

That is one of the things you better not find

👀

[quaint snow]

watching a 2.6k xp warrior in 3s atm - hes struggling at 1,8k now

I MEAN

[main copper]

Saw pvp-tuning still ongoing.
Any chance to get the dev hindsight behind having such an excuse for an Arms 35 row? Which one of them thinks -20% dmg done for -10% dmg taken is fine?
Def Stance and the former legendary Second Wind are so bad that it's just insulting to the players.

Rant over. I bet Ion, Holinka and their team of retards will be gone as soon as Bobby is.

[sharp meteor]

2.6k when because last season that'd be about equivalent to 1800 now

[main copper]

It's an interesting season right now for Arms. But still fun at least.

[steep inlet]

Have you heard about season begin and deflation

Seems not

[earnest thorn]

If 100 people are attacking you all at the same time and you posture into DEFENSIVE STANCE reducing the output of 100 players by 10% each simultaneously... well that's pretty damn good now isn't it
What say you now

[raw summit]

[sharp meteor]

hope they dialed back inflation so glad isn't top 5% again lmao

[main copper]

I'm more bothered about lack of vers on pvp tier pieces than the d stance nerf

[scarlet barn]

Explain it to me like i Am 5

Or Ndogo

[quasi lotus]

secret number system inflates weekly so long season = big number

[scarlet barn]

try like i am 3

[quasi lotus]

daddy pretended he was good at a game when you were only 2 and a half but now the game is saying he's not good

[wet scarab]

Fooling around as fury in 2s, it’s occupying one of these really fun niches where most of the teams playing against you have no idea what your abilities do and cc at random intervals

DHs in particular seem lost alternating between trying to go your healer and save theirs without any sense of direction

Winning a lot as necro, but want to give venthyr a try as well

[sharp meteor]

I mean havoc is really good at swapping so if somebody uses a defensive you just felblade/rush over to their teammate

then there's popping over to healer to incap cds

[shy aurora]

Can u link his channel?

[scarlet barn]

[clear pine]

If i dont get weapon next week in vault than I buy it right?

[raw summit]

yep

[clear pine]

Just making sure i dont fuck up. Ty

[jovial cedar]

So my friend is telling me having tormented kings/kyrian is a good way to go for arms

Is this a true statement

[raw summit]

for pve

signet

for pvp em is fine

[jovial cedar]

Oh so signet is good for pve arms?

[raw summit]

its okay

but not desired by most

[jovial cedar]

I got it thinking I was gojng to go pvp fury

[raw summit]

its an m+ choice

pve fury loves signet

and pvp id just go arms

[jovial cedar]

But I’m liking arms a little more just trying to find out if I need to switch covenants and leggo for arms

[raw summit]

kyrian arms with enduring blow

[jovial cedar]

What slot

[raw summit]

belt is the most common slot

[wooden trail]

how the fuck

do you counter holy priests dude

[jovial cedar]

@wooden trail I don’t think you do ha

[raw summit]

thats the funny part

u cant really

[wooden trail]

dude what'

are you serious

what is pvp in this game man

[undone pumice]

a minigame

[sharp meteor]

i have seen more than a few get randomly dinged

they also don't seem to handle spread pressure too well

they are quite good though especially in 2s

[raw summit]

a zen level hp i kinda just gg

[undone pumice]

i love

[raw summit]

but most dont play like that

[undone pumice]

low cr priests

[raw summit]

thankfully

[undone pumice]

phil u can confirm this

[raw summit]

yes

ding

gone

[undone pumice]

the priest just mind controlled randomly

[raw summit]

[undone pumice]

and he just got dinged by me

[raw summit]

that was such a funny game

[undone pumice]

s tier game

when do we

play again

u pver

[raw summit]

i legit didnt play today

i gotta slave dailies

[undone pumice]

i slave dailies

and then sit in lfg for 12 hours

[raw summit]

imma ask my heal what hes doin

he said gold farming

[undone pumice]

farmer of gold

[raw summit]

think he does mining in zm

to get the orange things

[undone pumice]

minign gives progenitor essentia?

[raw summit]

chance to loot em

from chest herb and mine

[undone pumice]

wow

so the gathering professions

minus skinning

skinning seems really trash rn

[raw summit]

yuh

[undone pumice]

time for mining because i only get 1 profession slot

[raw summit]

heal is done farming apparently

imma log on gimme 10 mins

[undone pumice]

engineering is too bis to give up

[raw summit]

agree

[undone pumice]

never have to leave oribos

all my homies hate orgrimar

[raw summit]

no

good town

[undone pumice]

all my homies hate taking portals to orgrimaar

i simply

talk to robot in oribos for ah

i rmemeber a few years ago

like 8.0 i was new to game

and my brother told me to mine ghost iron ore for gold

so i just w a l k e d around pandaria

[raw summit]

Imma be ready in 5 mins

[full quiver]

Is fury really better than arms in 2s

[undone pumice]

idk

probably not

[raw summit]

doesnt seem like it from our games

[full quiver]

Lol

I don't have a good understanding of fury anyways. Was gonna queue 3s for first time in a month so figured I'd try fury if it was better

[undone pumice]

fury

press many button

pump and dump scheme

[wet scarab]

I’m finding priests less threatening in 3s as fury with signet. They can’t deal with all the constant cleave damage with BS and WW

Druids are a bit better but they can’t really keep you rooted with either BS or avatar proccing with signet

I’m actually matching DH damage for the first time in ages

[raw summit]

@undone pumice i gotta go

[undone pumice]

i rq

one too many demon hunters today

[raw summit]

ye

also that fucking glad ret

[undone pumice]

guess i was inflated 1800

[hushed plank]

I just hit honored with rep is it possible I can get the second leggo at the same time everyone else does next week?

[undone pumice]

struggling at 1200

[raw summit]

no

ur way behind

[hushed plank]

Ya couple days sadly couldn’t play

[undone pumice]

unfort

[raw summit]

u need revered for rep so itll be another week max for u

but its fine

[sharp meteor]

was having a shitty time at 2100-2300 and then realized that's like top 300 right now

[hushed plank]

Ok thanks

[undone pumice]

i mean

[sharp meteor]

curious as to what they do with mmr this season

[undone pumice]

i was 1800 2s

and im new to 3s

like newER to 3s

[raw summit]

we were queueing full geared people

[sharp meteor]

3s is kind of scary right now

[raw summit]

its fine

also double war mw isnt ideal

[undone pumice]

true

but we could probably reach 2400 if season gets inflated enough again

[raw summit]

ur german too, rigjt?

[undone pumice]

swiss

[sharp meteor]

i think that last season they realized that massive inflation doesn't boost participation

[raw summit]

gruessach

[sharp meteor]

and will dial it back so glad is welfare but not ACTUALLY free

maybe

[raw summit]

wetsch in vc ga

🤡

[sharp meteor]

sike 10 month season 4k cutoff

[undone pumice]

2 year season

here we come

[sharp meteor]

nuclear war

the eternal season

[undone pumice]

nuclear winter

[sharp meteor]

gonna spend the next decade in the patch doming people in random bgs on mm hunter

[raw summit]

too possible

[undone pumice]

i love fully geared people in bgs

especially rets and mm hunter

randomly dining half my team

or half the enemy team

[raw summit]

That necro ret

In general we are stacking mega hard

[sharp meteor]

i just frost bolted some ret for 35k

[raw summit]

Which is bad into all dh

[sharp meteor]

get shattered idiot

[undone pumice]

i have no idea

what the fuck im doing

tbh

[gentle roost]

So for rbgs is two wars viable? One goes Kyrian and the other goes necro?

[raw summit]

Poor healer gotta heal more

[undone pumice]

im pveing at this point with random stuns and fears

[raw summit]

Watch whaaz or someone and copy

[gentle roost]

Spear and banner seem like they should be good to use in tandem

[raw summit]

We did kyr necro 3s

Was aight

[fierce elm]

should be kyr+NF

hello

[undone pumice]

none of us

have nightfae

[raw summit]

I have NF 60

[fierce elm]

You can just get it at 40 for free lmao

h e l l o t e a m

[undone pumice]

i refuse to

go nf

[raw summit]

I have NF since pve arm uses nf

[fierce elm]

then go Aftershock+spear combo with the Aftershock leggo

there you go

[raw summit]

But only kry necro 80

[undone pumice]

ah bomberclartz

[fierce elm]

run like Night Fae rsham aswell

[undone pumice]

double resonator too

[fierce elm]

believe in the wombo

[undone pumice]

big 1 shot

[raw summit]

If we wanna meme what cov should mw

Go

[fierce elm]

Necro still probs

[undone pumice]

venthyr obv

[raw summit]

He's necro rn yea

[fierce elm]

Jump in, sweep after everythging drops

watch them panic

[raw summit]

Our mw was struggling into double melee kick teams

That's normal, right?

[undone pumice]

we should use intervene better probably

can intervene kicks

[fierce elm]

Your MW should not be near anyone who can kick him

unless he wants to set up sweeping

[raw summit]

Imma relay the info

[undone pumice]

how can we helpp him with that tho

[fierce elm]

The only reason for him to ever get in is to get sweeping legs off

The only one he cant just kite infinitely is DH, and even that he can somewhat kite efficiently

[undone pumice]

maybe if we slow dh

he can

[raw summit]

Also we could pick kill target better

I feel like im rando swapping

[undone pumice]

same tbh

i have

0

idea what im doing

[sharp meteor]

u rotate venes if u can't keep them off healer

but like wwhy are two people on healer

if it's dh/dk or w/e then sure or ww but usually neeed to be keeping mw safe and a mile away

[raw summit]

Low mmr zugzug

[fierce elm]

Either way, your MW should not be getting caught out unless its a DH tbh

[sharp meteor]

usually stuff can't stick on mw

if u piercing

[fierce elm]

give my mans a slow

[raw summit]

Mw and me both new asf to pvp so all the help is appreciated

[undone pumice]

same tbh

[fierce elm]

if you are two warriors there is no reason to not have 100% uptime on hamstring+piercing

[raw summit]

No like legit s2 first season i played

[undone pumice]

s1 for me

[raw summit]

Next time we'll figure it out

[undone pumice]

next time for sure

[raw summit]

Also i need fucking gear

[undone pumice]

[raw summit]

Im still 251

[undone pumice]

abandon pve

[raw summit]

Man

I gotta do it, my guild is 9/10M and im trial

Kinda have to do some things

[undone pumice]

so u just gonna go for

10/10

and leave?

or u will slave in raid forever

[raw summit]

I wanna get ce tbh

But also glad mount

Whatever happens first

[undone pumice]

both

[raw summit]

Thatd be megapoga

[thick reef]

Guys, Leggo question. I see a lot of people saying we should put enduring on belt and unity on ring. Enduring on belt I get because tier head has verse. Why unity on ring though? Why not the tier piece with worst secondary stats? So in our case chest?

[undone pumice]

cuz

tier set is rng

[thick reef]

so you might just wear conquest gear instead. But then still, having a 291 chest gives more stats then a 291 ring right?

[undone pumice]

ring gives the most secondary stats by f a r

[frank knoll]

LFG is so dead

Literally 6 actual groups and the rest are ads

[undone pumice]

[fickle forge]

Holy priest rep growing by the second

[scarlet barn]

Wait

What

Thats huge

[worthy fern]

I hope it’s legit nerfed into the worst healer

[sharp meteor]

god i love playing with my rdruid and seeing them get arena 123 chastised the literal instant they leave prowl

[frank knoll]

Jfc

I agree holy is OP, Nerf rogue

[worthy fern]

When I’m on feral I have to rake stun the hpriest first vs rm

Then peel mage and rogue

Otherwise you get one stun off

[frank knoll]

What’s making Hpriest so OP besides the amount of damage they do? Holy ward?

[fickle forge]

70k serenities

2 immunities

Chastise+fear is guaranteed

[sharp meteor]

two charges of lay on hand plus guarantee ranged instant cc

so rm go is basically instnat on all three people

[fierce elm]

They do everything better than any other healer

🤔

[frank knoll]

Yeah I pretty much have to hope they mess up to beat them

[near delta]

Yo does anyone where we should be with enlightened rep now to not be far behind for double leggos?

[severe skiff]

Is 11 days til the campaign quest that allows us to purchase unity comes out, that's 4,125 rep from daily WQ and 3500 from the world boss/weekly on next two resets, assuming you've done it this week already

so add 7,625 rep to your current rep and you'll know how far behind you are

also worth noting that the campaign quests each week give like 200-500 rep in addition to that

[cerulean latch]

Hey guya i would like to try playing pvp as warrior and i was thinking going arms for pvp! Im fury for pve and i wanna ask which legendary etc is the best to use for pvp, talents etc??

[frank knoll]

I thought unity was free

[nimble jasper]

as a belt yes

[near delta]

Super helpful. Thanks man!

[severe skiff]

You get a free 262 unity belt with set stats from the campaign quest that unlocks on the 22nd, think it cant be upgraded to 291 either but not sure.

[frank knoll]

Yo wat

[mighty fractal]

Bruh

[lucid walrus]

100% buff to 0

[elder wigeon]

you punch with your fists

[full quiver]

Lol

[frank knoll]

Depends how long the buff lasts

Imagine aura of reckoning RNG with this

25k white attack

[short crescent]

felt bad for what i did to this lock

[sharp meteor]

lmao splat

warlocks so impossibly tanky now

aff anyways

[near delta]

Feels like they never cast too

[raw summit]

redditkid

good lock name

[wooden trail]

it feels like in 2s moment there's a good hpriest its gg

at the

cant do anything

[raw summit]

you can oneshot them if they arent aware

even a good priest can lose to a lucky execute

[wooden trail]

dude it feels impossible to even half the time to get them there

its sucha stupid class

[earnest thorn]

Who is ndogo

[fickle forge]

The Greil of PvP

[earnest thorn]

Can't find anything from this person anywhere

[sharp meteor]

local receptacle of bullying for some reason

[earnest thorn]

So it's not a thing

[undone pumice]

fury main

who misinformed sometimes

and played with 3k resto druid

and thought fury was good because of it

[lucid walrus]

greil knew what he was talking about a fair bit of the time

[sharp meteor]

fury might be good now lel

[earnest thorn]

Ok I was confused someone asked about Streams and stuff last night and I took a SS of the list and I got some... weird... stuff trying to find ndogo warrior

[fickle forge]

It's just a meme

[undone pumice]

he has a youtube channel wher ehe uploads fortnite stuff yeah

[lucid walrus]

fair

[earnest thorn]

Jacelad has a decent yt for warr pvp stuff

He plays 100% of his games with shadow priest though

Oh and good ol Joefernandes still at it

Watching Joe play 2s is always a good time

[fickle forge]

Ndogo spawned the 110% MS meme

Misinforming was his daily routine

[undone pumice]

wtf is the 110ms meme

[fickle forge]

When fury got SL, he asked if you could stack the 60% MS together with Unhinged for 110% MS

[undone pumice]

60%??

huh?

was it ever 60%

[fickle forge]

Early 9.1 stuff

Yes

[undone pumice]

ah

but ms is nerfed to 25% from 50%

and he didnt know or ehat

just recently found that out myself

[fickle forge]

Just the idea of thinking you can stack MS effects

And not knowing MS is 25% in PvP

And going above 100% healing reduction??

What happens then? You damage teammates for healing them?

[undone pumice]

kekw

i think that happens in some games actually tho

[fickle forge]

No combination of healing reductions will bring you to 100%

[undone pumice]

not in wow

but in other games

[fickle forge]

Ah yeah

[sharp meteor]

slaughterhouse i think yer

made fury appealing for like a split second

[fickle forge]

Plus it was max stacked from 1 Rampage

[sharp meteor]

current incarnation seems dece with enough haste

[undone pumice]

u need like

30% haste for fury to be equal in MS effect

even then u need to stack it

[cosmic pumice]

fury is better than arms now

arms is literally dogshit

[undone pumice]

[sharp meteor]

i edge closer and closer to playing fury

[frank knoll]

PvPers are the only WoW players that push P

Raiders be like “sorry babe I have to raid from 10-1am can’t come pipe gotta see what happens with Sylvanis”

I just wanna kill people like CoD

[near delta]

Finally got the aegis. Just need an rmp to test it on.

[hollow cedar]

whats the go-to pvp leggo besides kyrian nowadays?

[nimble jasper]

it doesnt work in stuns now

idk when that was changed

[undone pumice]

EB @hollow cedar

[nimble jasper]

it still absorbs an insane amount of magic dmg tho

[near delta]

Yooo

It's so good into wings

Yeah noticed the stun part and was sad lol

But would have been really toxic

[nimble jasper]

its good into alot of things imo

running into dks since its impossible to land isolated resonator vs them

[near delta]

Eats up chillstreak too

Extremely versatile

[mighty fractal]

Rogue mage is busted

Holy priest busted

Affi lock busted

Very upset with the state of PvP tbh

DH busted

[glossy beacon]

I feel like Arms just isnt able to compete, except for maybe with resto druid cheesy sauce.

I'll also add, Destro lock to your list there.

Think I'll stick to 3s for arms, play fury in 2s

[wheat jay]

[restive maple]

guys. Is enduring blow still the best opt right now ?

[elder wigeon]

yes it's the best non cov legendary

[glad owl]

Hey guys. Is it safe to play neecrolord still as arms in pvp? And with 2 leggos is it still good to stick with necro?

Im asking becouse im going to craft a legendary and was thinking to make the enduring blow helmet.

[glad owl]

And will the Enduring blow be bis with Kyrian as well when double leggo?

[nimble cypress]

enduring for more sustained dps. unhinged for big goes. depends what comp you play and into what

[glad owl]

I was thinking in general which will be best and im going to try get some rating this season. So alot of pugging.

I dont have gold to craft too many leggos 😄

[nimble cypress]

just craft enduring

its never bad

[glad owl]

Ok! and on helmet?

And one last question, will enduring work with kyrian as well when double leggo? 😄 I might swap between necro and kyrian.

[nimble cypress]

you want it on belt if you farm the rep for unity, covenant leggo can go on all slots

helm is tier slot

[glad owl]

What is there tier sets in pvp as well now? Thought it was only a pve thing?

[nimble cypress]

enduring works always

[elder wigeon]

Yes tier set for pvp as well

[glad owl]

Ohh ok

Found a post of it! So some tier pieces in pvp will not have versa on them.

What slots are the tier sets best slots?

The belt is double the price of helmet to make enduring blow 😄

[elder wigeon]

Helmet and shoulders are the best tier slots

[glad owl]

Ahh snap

[glad owl]

Ok I got a belt now to craft enduring blow on 😄

What slot is looking to be good for unity then?

[quaint snow]

wrist, ring, boots

[formal summit]

Ring gives most secondary stats tho I think

[mild urchin]

does someone if there is a new pvp enchant at 2100 and how it looks like?

[glad owl]

Oke

[elder wigeon]

Yes

Called Cosmic Flow

[full quiver]

Lol bit underwhelming

[mild urchin]

ty

[glad owl]

Anyone who got a good macro for swiching to 1h+shield that pops shield block and then switch to MH wep with same macro?

[fickle forge]

I like it

[elder wigeon]

No one does that

You lose way more damage doing that than you mitigate

[glad owl]

Oh really? 😮 Checked pvp macros on wow head and there are some for shield block. So I should not use it if I get trained?

[tired portal]

generally isnt worth it

[glad owl]

Ok thanks guys for info

[cerulean latch]

i am new to pvp , i play mostly fury and i wanna try some pvp too! at which slot should i craft EB?? waist? but if yes, waist isslot for unity, isnt it?

[jovial cedar]

Does anyone know if there is a way to get enduring blow if the proper hall isn’t up? I wanna switch to kyrian/arms from necro/fury because I feel like I’ll have better odds in arena. If that isn’t true and someone is killing the necro/fury game I’d like to hear from you ha

Or if I run signet/kyrian/arms until the hall is up will that work?

[undone pumice]

cock twisting corridors

[jovial cedar]

What do you mean?

[undone pumice]

twisting corridors

have a chance to be the onr you need

[jovial cedar]

Do you just zone in and out?

[undone pumice]

i think

[quasi lotus]

In and out until you get the correct halls

Clear til first boss and itll drop

Has to be layer 3+

[jovial cedar]

Oh cool, kyrian/arms is gojng to be slightly better than fury/necro right? Or does arms necro still@work?

[sharp meteor]

nobody knows lol stuff is barely explored now and very likely to change as we get tier more health more secondaries second legendary etc

they both seemin quite dece tho

[wet scarab]

how's the cc trinket playing into mage/rogue comps?

worth it?

when do you guys use it

for opener or after the first go?

[sharp meteor]

anything other than medalllion into rm is throwing the game

[wet scarab]

Can’t you use it alongside medallion?

[sharp meteor]

Which one? Resolve and Fastidious both occupy the medallion slot, similar to relent and adapt.

You can run aegis or something alongside medallion.

[wet scarab]

Ah ok

Yeah that’s what I’ve been doing for combust windows

[shy aurora]

Hows the resonator trinket for warriors?

[undone pumice]

aegis better

[sharp meteor]

Seems bad outside of isolated spears.

[jaunty furnace]

NF any good in PVP? Doing the campaign right now anyone know how long it takes to finish it?

[sharp meteor]

can work ya

also friendly reminder that charging somebody with resolve makes them immune to your next bolt/pummel

[severe otter]

Hey guys,
I'm a 2k4 last season XP in 2S. I 'm maining my Warry this season, but i don't have a lot of xp on him. I guess i know how to deal dmg (compare to others during arenas), but don't know how to "create" opportunity to kill. In addition, and it's wierd but... I'm the bitch of every droods. Don't know how to play against them. Do you have any streamer/video that explain how to be efficient in 2s/3s warry plz ?

[steel cloak]

i see like 1 fury warrior in the lvl leader boards is it bad for pvp or just hard to do?

[sharp meteor]

nobody knows pick a spec/cov/leggo/comp etc and send it

[elder wigeon]

Fury is just worse than arms defensively and a fair few classes can dispel your enrage which is pretty shitty

[undone pumice]

and dhs can wall your regen

[steel cloak]

there is one furst warrior at 2300 3s how does he do it?

[cerulean latch]

guys at which spot should i craft enduring blow?? waist?? but isnt waist for unity?

[undone pumice]

i believe hes jsut better or luckier than the rest of us

fury will pump with 4p to a degree it hasnt in a while tho i believe

[modern wigeon]

Two fury in the top running venthyr and the siegebreaker lego. Condemn allows for tons of rage to spam rampages.

[steel cloak]

so it sounds like both can do it its just more are playing the arms meta rn?

[elder wigeon]

recraft unity on a non tier slot, preferably on ring and put enduring on belt