pvp

[undone pumice]

he said he uses it for hp check

[raw summit]

Huh

[undone pumice]

u dont know hp check?

feast + priest buff + BM + rally

apparently it was BM + feast

like ???

[raw summit]

So he pops it all

So the enemy thinks he has gear

[undone pumice]

BIG BRAIN

[raw summit]

Or what is the point

[undone pumice]

idk

probably to flex on people in oribos and say look my hp im dps spec

[fierce elm]

I macro everything together

[undone pumice]

i have a macro that casts fear and dalaran hearthstone

[raw summit]

. /cast op /cast ip

[undone pumice]

[raw summit]

Goated

[fickle forge]

I macro IP+OP 😎 👍

[undone pumice]

this is bis

[spice hornet]

i thought binding is supposed to break on dmg now

[bleak sage]

Does anyone know what the shadow priests opener/go is meant to look like in WPS? We try to do the stun silence healer me stormbolt kill target but he seems to be getting shut down for the first 20-30seconds each time

[raw summit]

They reverted that

[grand scaffold]

wtf type of macro is that

just sounds like wasted rage on steroids

[raw summit]

Arm has enough rage

Is fine

IP doesnt cost 60

[graceful quarry]

you have enough rage gain after the buffs

[grand scaffold]

what buffs!?

[undone pumice]

tier?

[steep inlet]

This is troll macro

[cold totem]

so hard to find healers in lfg

[grand scaffold]

how does the tier set buff our rage

doesnt is just increase dmg done?

[raw summit]

More reck

More rage

Or are you talking arms

[graceful quarry]

they changed it, gives rage as well now

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i thought you talking about arms

so

whats the new tier set?

[lofty linden]

Best covenant and leggo for 2s specifically?

[undone pumice]

idk man im just saying words

[graceful quarry]

you didnt see?

[grand scaffold]

arms goes kyrian with elysian might

nah

[graceful quarry]

lmao

just check news channel on this disc

[grand scaffold]

are you talking about the fury set?

because i saw that already

the pins in the arms channel says same thing as before tho

[graceful quarry]

weird

[lofty linden]

What about when you have double leggo?

Elysian might + what?

[undone pumice]

EB

[grand scaffold]

enduring blow or unhinged

[sand shadow]

If not troll, that's a bad idea macro

[fierce elm]

yee thanks

I was for sure gonna try it out

[sand shadow]

me too, I like bad idea macros

they call to me

[grand scaffold]

can someone please link the new arms set bonus?

[sand shadow]

what new arms set bonus

[grand scaffold]

idk

apparently theres a reworked one

[sand shadow]

they nerfed Fury's set bonuses

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i know that

but apparently there is an arms one

[sand shadow]

wat

[grand scaffold]

idk

[sand shadow]

I see nothing on wowhead/mmo-champ

[grand scaffold]

neither

thats why im confused

[raw summit]

They nerfed the original one

And that was it

No extra changes

[grand scaffold]

then what was the whole talk about now we get more rage regen

because of set bonus

[quasi lotus]

There's no way

you took yeah's bait that hard

[grand scaffold]

😕

lol

[quasi lotus]

He was memeing to justify the troll macro

[grand scaffold]

oh

really ridiculous

blizzard will never ever let fury be better than arms in pvp

depressing

[scarlet barn]

Did you try google?

[high kindle]

good, thats how it should be

[grand scaffold]

why

[scarlet barn]

Lel

[high kindle]

i mean why not

arms is the chad spec, not much more to say

[fickle forge]

Why is Ndogo's trademark always
<Insert some info nobody's heard of>
<People asking what he's refering to>
<Ndogo saying he doesn't know either>

[grand scaffold]

why is karanze & razonkos thing

look for anything related to ndogo

disagree with ndogo

complain about ndogo

dont you get bored?

[steep inlet]

Between ndogo and bruin we have real champs atm

[grand scaffold]

haha

🤣

that was a good one

[scarlet barn]

Well we just keep on lookout for misinformation

Generally comes from your direction

General knowledge of skyhold at this point

[grand scaffold]

🤣

[scarlet barn]

Yeah it is laughable

But still true

[fickle forge]

We don't have to look, you put it on everyone's way on a regular basis

Often times when I tab in here, it's easy to spot within 10 lines

[undone pumice]

obv troll

[jovial cedar]

Anyone else take the bomb trinket and realize it’s not gojng to be easy to land

[raw summit]

Kyrian spear

Idk what u mean

[jovial cedar]

Haha I’m necrolord though

Necro fury

Icy veins says that the soulbind the emeni is anyone else taking that ones

[raw summit]

Stun bomb ezpz

Id go marileth

Cuz ultimate form

And big mastery

[jovial cedar]

That’s what I thought. I just finally got renown 80 and picking conduits ha

Does arms do more burst damage than fury?

[undone pumice]

probably

[full quiver]

Wish I could heal lumberjack cleave with ndogo and bruin

[grand scaffold]

if bruin is na

we could play

seems fun

[scarlet barn]

[raw summit]

Sounds like a hillarious wall of text

[grand scaffold]

ayo razonko

nobody needs to see a selfie

[grand scaffold]

yeah

lmao

[scarlet barn]

You need to learn to read sarcasm

[grand scaffold]

was just a joke

i know it was sarcasm

[scarlet barn]

do you though

[grand scaffold]

lol

do you play NA or EU razonko

[full quiver]

LOL

[wispy cedar]

I would heal you guys if you do fury scoobz

[grand scaffold]

sounds fun

lets just see if he plays fury

but

why fury?

[wispy cedar]

Come on scoobz let’s do it

[grand scaffold]

@full quiver

there

[scarlet barn]

Because its definition of lumberjack

[grand scaffold]

now he will get a notification

[grand scaffold]

i thought lumberjack is just 2x warr and a healer

[scarlet barn]

unless it was changed

[grand scaffold]

idk

[scarlet barn]

It was either 2x arms warrior

[full quiver]

I thought it was arms

[scarlet barn]

or 1 fury 1 arms

[grand scaffold]

same

hmm

i think its 2x arms warrior

[full quiver]

Low is terrible though

We would want a better healer lol

[grand scaffold]

i mean

its just for the fun of it

if we wanted to push high cr wouldnt be q'ing lumberjack

would be ret warr or warr sp

he can probably heal us enough anyway

@wispy cedar i dont mind q'ing with you

what healer do you play?

[dusk saffron]

i've been playing necro like only but im swapping kyrian, how like actually good is kleia into like assa/priest and feral/priest

is it actually worth taking like at all?

or is forgelite just always better

[versed nova]

I've not played in a few years but just maxed out my warr again. is Arms still the best for PvP. I seem to have better luck with Fury atm... Can't believe they got rid of so much stuff as well

[grand scaffold]

unfortunately

arms is still better

but

fury isnt completely horrible

smexxin is like the best warrior and he is maining it this patch

[scarlet barn]

Well if arms players already suffer

Fury istn having better time

its much worse

[versed nova]

Are warriors bad for PvP in general now then?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

warriors are kinda meh now

but fury is better this patch than last patch

because of armor nerfs

and i got 2400 with it

so

you can do awesome with it

it just takes much more effort than with arms

[versed nova]

that sucks they used to be class in pvp. I've got a ret pally as which would you say is better suited to pvp?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[scarlet barn]

He got to 2400 as fury in last months of season with high rated Healer

[grand scaffold]

ret dmg is crazy

[scarlet barn]

Dont take him too seriously

[grand scaffold]

my healer is awesome

but i still got high cr as fury

doesnt change the factr

[scarlet barn]

For now there are better picks. but Fury is def not on good track

[steep inlet]

ndogo...

[scarlet barn]

haha

[steep inlet]

it was the record of inflation

[scarlet barn]

See . cant leave him alone here

[steep inlet]

stop taking this as a proof

[grand scaffold]

but i got before people got mad cr like 3600

point is

you can do well with fury

but there are better classes

[scarlet barn]

Yes if you get boosted and ifnlation carries you too

Good point

[grand scaffold]

i didnt get boosted dumbass

you just pissed i got high cr

[steep inlet]

you had what xp and your healer what xp ?

[grand scaffold]

before

220

2200

the healer i played with legit taught me how to play

i started playing with him is s1

when i was hardstuck 1580 cr

but he helped me improve

in*

[steep inlet]

yeah you had a multiglad 2950 xp rdruid too

[grand scaffold]

thats legit what i just said

[raw summit]

That's the friend

[grand scaffold]

^

its called

be nice to people

and dont shit on them all the time

you get further in life

[steep inlet]

nobody is rude to you

but you give some bad infos/advices based on your 2400 xp fury xp in a giga inflated season

[scarlet barn]

^

[steep inlet]

it's not cool for them

[grand scaffold]

that may be true

but i do my best on giving adice tbh

and at the time people were like 3200 max 3300

[steep inlet]

you are not getting the point

[grand scaffold]

not 3600 like the end of the season

[steep inlet]

whatever do what u want

[versed nova]

Sorry for noob questions but inflated season?

[grand scaffold]

basically means there were a lot of players

so people got much higher cr

if its deflated people arent playing so people dont get super high cr

[steep inlet]

it's not only number related...

[grand scaffold]

so what exactly is it?

i thought thats what it meant

[versed nova]

That makes sense...

Thanks for ur help mate, last one... Which is the best soulbind person?

[grand scaffold]

for kyrian or for necro or what cov?

[versed nova]

Kyrian

[grand scaffold]

generally go mikanikos

but ive seen a couple people play the other two

tho i dont know why

[versed nova]

Nice I have done, seems to be the best

[fickle forge]

One could argue bad advice is worse than no advice

[grand scaffold]

its true tbh

[fickle forge]

[scarlet barn]

Ehm

I guess he agrees?

[undone pumice]

mika > kleia >= pelaghost

[scarlet barn]

just forever engraving it here

so we can use it for future

[undone pumice]

this one is legendary too

[tough compass]

Kleia Good against assa and feral, pelagos is good of youre sure to be able to pump in spear windows

[fickle forge]

Don't pray for my glad
Glad is izi

😎 👍

[sharp meteor]

since bfa s4 it really has been

[fierce elm]

cringe

[steep inlet]

nah sl s1 glad was hardmode

at least in the end

with defla

[wheat jay]

I pray for your glad 🙏

[frank knoll]

Lol bro no matter what you do the gatekeepers in this disc will shit on you. “Ohh you got 2400 well fuck you cause ur not 3k” lmao why I don’t fw y’all anymore

[fierce elm]

Yeah, Lunk the famous not fw #pvp

[undone pumice]

did ndogo fucking leave?

[scarlet barn]

Big kek comment

[scarlet barn]

Wouldnt be first time

He did it couple of times. Couldnt handle criticism

[jovial cedar]

@scarlet barn I saw your comment about better picks than warrior for pvp, which classes are you thinking are shaping up better for pvp??

[undone pumice]

man

wtf

[fierce elm]

He didnt leave btw

[undone pumice]

ndogo is kill

why live

he got kicked?

[scarlet barn]

He wouldnt be kicked for that

[fierce elm]

no lmao

my mans is here

[undone pumice]

@ndogo

[scarlet barn]

I heard hunters are having blast now

🙃

[undone pumice]

he is not here

[scarlet barn]

@grand scaffold

[undone pumice]

afro he left

you are fiercely autistic too

[frank knoll]

Bro it’s be mean to Ndogo or Cali “if you weren’t glad during mop you’ll never get glad” that’s all y’all niccas do last time I checked

[jovial cedar]

@scarlet barn I was actually thinking of playing bm or survival just needed to cap renown on my warrior cause he was closest. I got kited by a bm hunter today so hard I wanted to rage quit ha

[sage raptor]

Bruh mop was so long ago that I don't even care if people got glad back then.

[undone pumice]

if you arent glad you arent glad @frank knoll its that simple anything else is invalid statement

[sharp meteor]

getting into old glad % range and getting the same mount as somebody who did their 50 wins at 2450 💀

[scarlet barn]

Last time i checked, we call out bad info

[fierce elm]

Maybe its the fact that he goes from a 1400 gamer, to 2100 in the offseason season 1 to 2400 in 2s and just happened to play with a r1 healer 🤔

Regardless, bad info should be called out either way

[sharp meteor]

at least it feels nice to queue up and split all the low glads in half 💀

[undone pumice]

if u arent 2400 u arent 2400

[scarlet barn]

People here are actually nicely supportive

when not met with trolling/misinfo/people taht are legit just capslocking

[fierce elm]

Anyone who spreads misinfo gets called out on it either way

[frank knoll]

What’s bad about having a 110% mortal strike while playing unhinged

[scarlet barn]

whats bad about saying that 2+2=5

[dusk saffron]

damn drama in da warrior discord fo today

[sage raptor]

It's a 110% MS lol

[scarlet barn]

lol you have low standards if you think this is drama

[dusk saffron]

its not personal bro

lol

its just funny

[sage raptor]

I remember "if you don't play arms then you're bad"

[raw summit]

If i go ask for Info i always hope i get good answers

2400 should be enough for a decent idea of what's aight or ass

[sage raptor]

Idk why it wouldnt

[raw summit]

However 2400 2s ≠ 2400 3s

🤷Idk man

It's just trash drama

[sage raptor]

It's easy to forget that only the best of the best hangout in pvp channels in class discords. Sometimes is hard to forget lol

[frank knoll]

I mean basically , it was hard to get good fury info because if you ask folks are like “go to talents and switch to arms kek next question”

[raw summit]

There's a guide by joefernandes which imo is a good Source of info

Hearing from someone who plays it can help

[scarlet barn]

hearing from someone that plays it and still provides false info though

Thats sad

[frank knoll]

Joefernandes is the goat

Yeah but Ndogo was the only dude besides Bev who would fw fury and give tips

[raw summit]

Issue probably is we cant verify info

[fierce elm]

Because what the fuck kind of tip can you expect for fury lmao

"Yeah you have no defensive so your offense is your defense"

[raw summit]

Press Rampage key harder

Use execute on cooldown

[fierce elm]

Like, Arms might be braindead but at least it has defensive outplay potential

[raw summit]

Remember if you intervene your healer you can actually die

[fierce elm]

Its also the fact that we have no info which we can confirm

We had joes guide but even that was kind of sus

[frank knoll]

Idk like maybe, what comps work with fury, or “how do I not die to RMP every time” there were guys playing fury at like 2900 so I know they have that shit figured out

[raw summit]

No comp

No counterplay

[fierce elm]

Comp = the same comps as arms

How do I not die to RMP? spend all your rage on IP and pray to god you kill them first

[raw summit]

But honestly it's just not gonna be anything good cuz so few bother playing something obviously worse

[fierce elm]

Like, as comps whatchu got, Turbo and ret/warr as fury?

You probably cant run a ranged comp unless its some fmage cheese

[raw summit]

Most fury question are "fury good?" and that answer was obvious

[fierce elm]

Dying to RMP with no passive constant DR is gonna be hard as fuck when you cant funnel rage into IP because you want uptime on Warpaint

[frank knoll]

Bro I remember fury was good with MW at one point

[fierce elm]

and Frenzied is about as useless as nips on a man

[frank knoll]

Ya there’s some fundamental class design flaws with fury that make it bad in PvP. And they just got nerfed so now it’ll be even worse

[narrow beacon]

What's the best 2's partner for Arms?

[fierce elm]

So there is nothing to really be said about Fury

its a really, really, really worse choice than arms and any other spec

And you really fall back into the fact that you dont have any counterplay except go big aggro

And thats the fundamental issue with the fury bois, they just don't get it and try to their way to victory

[frank knoll]

That’s why I rerolled to DH, similar playstyle.. better spec

[sage raptor]

Some would rather suffer than play arms. I respect that.

I don't blame them. If arms wasn't miles better than fury, I'd play fury.

[scarlet barn]

It was good with WW in BFA

[frank knoll]

Honestly enhance is pretty solid too

[warped warren]

false

frenzy is insane

[sharp meteor]

I do enjoy queuing double healer.

Yeah, especially with more swarms flying around when they get their legendary.

[scarlet barn]

also ndogo is for 2 years very questionable source of info

Admitted to being boosted once

[sharp meteor]

shambles

[scarlet barn]

Was caught geetting boosted second time

[fickle forge]

Who?

[scarlet barn]

Always debunked by top players

[frank knoll]

Bro yeah ur I only play2s as enhancement with a warr or healer

[cold totem]

I'm getting melted in dstance

Today is not my day

Sadge

[fickle forge]

Playing 2s enh with a healer is straight up insanity 😎 👍

[buoyant wraith]

what lego for kyrian PVP?

elysian might?

[sharp meteor]

Elysian and sometimes Enduring, yeah.

[fickle forge]

And both once we're able

[scarlet barn]

which will be

in 2,5 weeks

[frank knoll]

I was out healing my healer lmao. Was playing with like a 39k hp Druid

He was a clone bot basically

[maiden sparrow]

Is warrior + retri still pretty strong in 2v2?

[tough compass]

Its decent but not strong

You are limited by the Short Time the Ret can keep you alive. The bolstered HP-pools making it harder to finish games early

[fickle forge]

Who were those 2900 fury players you were talking about though?

[sharp meteor]

just grimgrip maybe heh

[frank knoll]

Oxeroth I know off the top of my head

And grimgrip

[fickle forge]

Didn't Grimgrip stop Q'ing after he couldn't play with prot pala?

[sharp meteor]

prot pala still works

not great but it works

[jaunty furnace]

What’s the best way to finish the ZM quest to get the new trinkets?

[wet scarab]

Go to ZM and kill rares and open chests

Otherwise kill mobs

Especially in quest areas

[jovial cedar]

Has anyone tried arms with the kings legendary

[wet scarab]

So the resonator has a nice defensive usage by getting rogues or melee cleaves to get off your ass if you drop it at your feet

[jaunty furnace]

Ok

So what’s the best pvp trinket to choose from the ZM quest? the resonator got nerfed so idk if that’s still worth it or not

[tough compass]

Magic Wall is Good for Warr aswell

Not sure whats it called tho

Made some RMs quit the game playing it when combust literarly did 0 dam

[sharp meteor]

aegis looks sick

absorbs bigly magic dam and i heard usable in stuns

inject it into my veeeeeins

[undone pumice]

it is usable in stuns

very nice

i saw resonator dealt cosmic dmg and i knew it was rmp trinket so i got aegis

100000 iq

[uncut pollen]

What are some of the ways people can get out of spear?

[lucid walrus]

bop, freedom, soulshape/blink, spiritwalker's+flesh

[undone pumice]

priest with that thing that looks like honorless target

rogue can bug out with shadowstep because racism

[lucid walrus]

gfade yeah

hpriest has another out via divine ascend

[jaunty furnace]

Is Resonator still worth it?

[nimble jasper]

offensively yes

[sharp meteor]

uh i think it's nice right now with low hp pools

but we might just be back to badge/insignia etc eventually here

especially if it's hard to get isolated resos

[nimble jasper]

i feel aegis is gonna be the play

[sharp meteor]

matchup specific thing

aegis looks great yaya

[nimble jasper]

unless you’re rmp

[raw summit]

Aegis is almost like a better BM

[nimble jasper]

vs wizards it is

[maiden sparrow]

which covenant + soulbind for 2v2's retri warrior should I go with? Kyrian and something?

[tough compass]

Necro and the first Soulbind

[full quiver]

Imagine old d stance with aegis 😫 😫

[maiden sparrow]

Which covenant if I don't have necro xD

[tough compass]

But Kyrian with Double resonator Trinket in spear is always a good thing

[maiden sparrow]

Which kyrian soulbind?

[tough compass]

Id go with mika mostly and mby kleia into assa/feral

[jaunty furnace]

go flamed because I didn’t out damage a DH lol

[maiden sparrow]

ty @tough compass

[paper heath]

Is Necro vs Kyrian arms entirely comp dependent, or is there one clearly better than the other?

[tough compass]

Right now theyre similar but ye they work better in different comps

[elder wigeon]

Right now it’s comp dependent, when double legendary comes kyrian will be objectively better

[gloomy hamlet]

folks anyone here use fastidious resolve?

[lucid walrus]

not a clue what that is

[gloomy hamlet]

it's a new trinket

[lucid walrus]

ah the cc block. dunno if anyone's tested it extensively given resonator hype

[gloomy hamlet]

I thought the cc block would include stuns and disorients etc?

several times I've used it then been hit by 1 aoe stun / disorient from a single player and it goes through and CCs me

[nimble jasper]

it only stops the followup

[gloomy hamlet]

what do you mean?

[sharp meteor]

it makes first cc bigger

then immunes next

[gloomy hamlet]

no that's a different one

[sharp meteor]

oh u mean the immune 2 cc one? troll for anything other than like convokers

[gloomy hamlet]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

immuning 2 ccs every 3 minutes at the cost of your medallion is NOT great for most specs

unless u play on 1-banging them first go

[gloomy hamlet]

I'm a convoke druid

[lucid walrus]

[sharp meteor]

ya could be dece

[nimble jasper]

🖕

[gloomy hamlet]

but I was just wondering if it's borked or if it's meant to allow AoE crowd control to go through

[nimble jasper]

convoke andys

[sharp meteor]

idk but every druid i have queued into had theirs ripped off instantly then ran around for a few minutes until they died

[gloomy hamlet]

but yes it does suck having your only source of good dmgur so easily countered :p which is why I was hoping the trinket would actually work

[nimble jasper]

convoke is not easily counterable

what is cross cc

[gloomy hamlet]

it is if you try 1vX ^^

[sharp meteor]

whwy would u do that tho

[gloomy hamlet]

to win those epic bgs

[nimble jasper]

yeah bgs are meme content

[wet scarab]

I respect a Druid who admits to being night fae in pvp

[nimble jasper]

no one cares

[wet scarab]

It’s like coming on here as RMP to ask for advice

[gloomy hamlet]

well hats off to you

[sharp meteor]

nf feral in epic bgs?

[lucid walrus]

hey guys we don't 1-bang warriors any advice

[gloomy hamlet]

I've asked in 3 other discords and you are the only people helpful enough to reply

[sharp meteor]

i think the cc immunity trinket has a lot of potential when cc is their only stop

[wet scarab]

Warriors have big chad hearts

[sharp meteor]

i have seen a lot of convokes scuffed by big walls etc

idk the macro game of nf feral seems weird

nf feral plus fire then whatever healer could be super good

or maybe awful

[nimble jasper]

livelord necro feral tho

pepelaff

[wet scarab]

Why is it useful though if you can stop convoke with a kick I imagine that’s usually how the cast ends

[sharp meteor]

so the thing with nf voke is that it kill syou

[gloomy hamlet]

well generally you try to use it with a stunned target and nearby CCd

[sharp meteor]

so you cross cc them and then convoke

so they need to burn a trinket

NOW you can do another go with say combust

and no trinket = kill

just cycle around like that

macro game of cds/trinkets etc

[nimble jasper]

its rmp

[wet scarab]

I always figured that trinket was made for priest mind games plays not that they needed any help

[nimble jasper]

but jank

[gloomy hamlet]

I mean there isn't much macro for it

paladin on the other hand, just made one of them

[steel lantern]

so is everyone expected to bring 4 piece tier into arena?

[sharp meteor]

wym arena is a giant macro dance

of cds and cc

[gloomy hamlet]

literally like 6 move macro sequence for burst, it's ridiculous

[nimble jasper]

teapot assumes 95% of ferals arent jungle players

[sharp meteor]

as either warr spec? ya ofc

[sharp meteor]

more like 70% kitty

[nimble jasper]

oh that too

[sharp meteor]

and slowly reverting back to 90% jungle

[nimble jasper]

disgusting kindred apes

[steel lantern]

so what, we get helm shoulders chest gloves of tier? and just make up the vers elsewhere?

[sharp meteor]

lmao who knows

need the tier tho

[elder wigeon]

you don't play kyrian kitty anymore

necro is better

[gloomy hamlet]

necro burst seems so low

[steel lantern]

which gets you wrist for unhinged and legs/feet for elysian might

[sharp meteor]

swarm tf frenzy chunks

[nimble jasper]

you can make unity elsewhere

why would you play unhinged over EB

[gloomy hamlet]

doesn't kill people in 2 seconds like voke tho

[sharp meteor]

voke doesn't do 4k+ sustained tho

i can't imagine kitty with nf over kyrian or necro

[tough compass]

ye but its reliable dam, voke gets intereupted nearly always

[gloomy hamlet]

well I've only just started trying out feral

[wheat jay]

High mmr convoke is conjoke

[gloomy hamlet]

but I find it hard to believe a necro can burst down a good healer

[tough compass]

Is there a way to change my discord name or do I need nitro for that?

[sharp meteor]

kitty gapes healers lmao

[gloomy hamlet]

not that I think a NF could either, but certainly would be closer

gapes?

[sharp meteor]

right click server then adjust profile stuff?

[tough compass]

It’s greyed out for me

[wet scarab]

I haven't died to a necro feral in a while since teaming up with a resto shaman and spriest

they both shut down and purge casters and feral stays in bear the entire game with me on them

that said every now and then I run into one who destroys me with burst in like 2-3 seconds

and I don't fully understand why

[gloomy hamlet]

a necro destroys you in 2-3 seconds?

[wet scarab]

not in the opener but a little bit into the game

it doesn't always happen but I don't understand the combination of abilities that leads to it

[sharp meteor]

earthenwall destroys necro feral

[wet scarab]

I just go them every time now and it's sad how little dps they can do when under pressure

but I only just started playing with an rsham spriest regularly so still figuring out how to do things

I almost feel the dstance nerf was made to skew the meta away from warrior-supported melee cleaves rather than to nerf warriors specifically

[gloomy hamlet]

distance nerf?

[wet scarab]

defensive stance nerf

[gloomy hamlet]

oof

[wet scarab]

was 20% dmg reduction and 20% less damage done

[gloomy hamlet]

ooh*

[wet scarab]

now it's 10% dmg reduction and 20% less damage done by the warrior

result is warriors are squishier

[gloomy hamlet]

seems harsh

[plain wing]

yall started running into many people with 2/ 4 set yet?

in arena

[elder wigeon]

I haven't noticed

[tough compass]

Don’t think so

[plain wing]

lots o people have 2 set

[tough compass]

I don’t check enemies reguarly so there might have been some without me noticing

[plain wing]

ye

i mean i havent even qeued yet cuz i have queue anxiety XD

[tough compass]

I had that too

[plain wing]

dont wanna get rekt

feelsbad

just such bad anxiety around it

[tough compass]

Until I noticed that I reach the ratings I belong to anyway

Just don’t let loses or mad teammates get to your heart and focus on improving

[plain wing]

like fighting hunters

so fucking triggered

just cant even touch them

[ember rose]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[tough compass]

Ye but that’s 2s life that bracket is Rock Paper Scissors anyway

[ember rose]

Another Bruin Mald episode

[plain wing]

like fucking hell theyre so trigegered

in arena and bg's mostly

u just cnat fucking touch them at all

and they think theyre good

when theyre literally playing a smooth fucking cringe class

[sage raptor]

Whoa

I say the samething to arms lol

[wet scarab]

Lol Bruin is like the Thorghast bot on Reddit

[sage raptor]

Nvm the fact I play arms

[wet scarab]

The mald episodes are self fulfilling prophecies

[plain wing]

but yea

just bad queue anxiety

so i havent been able to queue arena yet

we'll see

[sage raptor]

What's the worst that could happen?

You lose?

[lucid walrus]

outside of boosting or severe inflation you'll be able to get peak rating back extremely often

can't win if you don't play

[elder wigeon]

depends on how high you peak

[lucid walrus]

it's more applicable for ladder climbing if you're not a 3k demigod

[sharp meteor]

hope they rug mmr this season so we don't end up like unchained

[lucid walrus]

jesus

[elder wigeon]

not likely

[sharp meteor]

Rival's Cosmic Soul Eater

[wheat jay]

By % it would be like old duelist

[elder wigeon]

worse

but yea

actually no, rival still lmao

top 4% aint duelist

[sharp meteor]

Rival.

[wheat jay]

Well, I was 2500+, highest rank was like 3.5k or so

In my heart i'm a full fledged gladiator

[elder wigeon]

kek

had to get rank 750 for real glad

[jaunty furnace]

Why is mmr still jacked up

[wheat jay]

Shup up Resune

[nimble jasper]

rn it isnt

[wet scarab]

This glad and inflation snobbery must be how the big Ivy League schools got started

[sharp meteor]

There being a 1200 cr gap between glad and r1 is kind of fried.

[wheat jay]

Top dogs went absolutely fucking crazy

[elder wigeon]

inflation doesn't matter when ranks are given by percentile rank of the ladder

inflation matters when the ranks and rewards are given on a fixed rating

[nimble jasper]

snobbery xd

people that q sub hpriest 2s

congrats you know how to press chastise fear off a cheapshot

and hit holy fire a few times on kill target

[wet scarab]

Yeah y’all are like the French aristocracy surprised at the existence of lower cr warriors lmao

[nimble jasper]

assa dmg seems to stick better than outlaw

in terms of rot

[wet scarab]

See I thought the cc immunity trinket was made precisely for this comp

Which is cancer

[nimble jasper]

no you just holy ward the rogue

while hes in stealth

for minimal stops

[wet scarab]

I meant that the priest takes it not you

To make it even more impossible

[nimble jasper]

yeah

playing with priests who dont fear off saps and mg kill targ is annoyibg

aka most of lfg

[wet scarab]

I don’t know how any priest at this point is lower than 1800 it’s a lower skill cap than rdruids

[nimble jasper]

dont know how to play aggro prob

[tough pewter]

is fury better than arms now after d stance nerf

[nimble jasper]

no

[sharp meteor]

probably not

[simple rock]

yo make sure you guys get a 262 boe

just found out they have secondary bonuses

seems like this proc slaps

[nimble jasper]

uptime is ass

[fickle forge]

Challenger's Cosmic Soul Eater

[lucid walrus]

been selling heaps of these. that proc only seems good for high apm

also functions like the pelagos buff

[sharp meteor]

ew

isn't there a movement speed one

[nimble jasper]

all i know is

thank god this isnt a thing anymor

[sharp meteor]

queued into a few people trying it during preseason

didn't seem great

[elder wigeon]

Lmao guy pressed mortal strike once

[simple rock]

the only other affix I saw was bonus secondary stat when you kill enemies

which is pve only ofc

no reason to not get a 262 though no one is replacing rings for a while unless you get shit vaults

[runic galleon]

why isn't venthyr used anymore aside from the nerf to death sentence

[elder wigeon]

Condemn doesn’t do anywhere near as much damage and is expensive rage wise to play

With that being said you can condemn all game

Execute is much harder to get off

[sharp meteor]

so they nerfed armor, which is a buff to physical abilities (condemn is magic) and then they buffed execute itself

then they added elysian might, and reworked necro banner

so condemn kind of fell behind

[elder wigeon]

Indeed

[sharp meteor]

and never got buffed

which i am fine with

[nimble jasper]

ngl i hated venthyr war meta

such a degen thing to have an all in one button

that did everything

[sharp meteor]

death sentence nerf was just another thing that stung particularly hard as venth so yeah unless they panic buff it bigly for pve i don't see it being good

maybe enduring+ss is okay idk

[elder wigeon]

It’s okay

[sharp meteor]

i thought that maybe between enduring+ss, death sentence (rip) and the POTENTIAL that it gets buffed that it might've been okay-good this patch but probably not

third season of spear warrior lets goo

[barren crane]

What u guys think enraged regen needs to make it competitive with dbts?

[lucid walrus]

100% parry

[runic galleon]

mikanikos the go to for pvp ?

[sharp meteor]

parry too good of a stop in fast games

arms can get turned to and killed instantly without it

[elder wigeon]

yeah i feel insanely squishy right now

360 no scoped by rets

[plain wing]

actually watching all these pve raiders grinding 2s for vault

and theyre all just plowing thru ratings hahaha

like all 1800+ playing at 2k mmr

and they play pvp for like 1 week every season

pretty wild

[south forum]

pvp warriors, are any of the trinkets for that ZM WM quest worth grabbing specifically?

[magic plover]

what's so good about the warbringer honor talent?

[elder wigeon]

Aegis and Resonator

[elder wigeon]

2 second root, increased damage on charge

[south forum]

Ty

[elder wigeon]

honestly I wish i got the aegis over the resonator

casters are insane atm and helps your survivability by a lot, especially against rmp

[sharp meteor]

ya same not a fan of resonator

[lucid walrus]

damage

[sharp meteor]

big dam which was super cool with modifiers last season and lets you avoid getting gripped/ported on spear

plus more uptime in general because longer root

[magic plover]

ahh i see ty

[jaunty furnace]

If you played fury in arena would you go Necro or Kyrian?

[scarlet barn]

@NdogoFury#5197

He really left

[jaunty furnace]

?

[scarlet barn]

Necro prob to gain some survivebility

But you stilll gonna fall over

[jaunty furnace]

I tried arms and still got dunked in D stance and DBTS up

Ate right past it

[elder wigeon]

fury gets dunked harder than arms

[scarlet barn]

True

[jaunty furnace]

How long does it take in a season before I stop seeing every single person on the other team riding out on gladiator mounts at 1500cr

[elder wigeon]

a month or so

and don't worry about glad mounts, they're participation awards since BFA

[fierce elm]

PaRtIcIpAtIoN aWaRdS

[nimble jasper]

@plain wing watching liquid andies playing rmp is funny

havent seen an rmp open and not force a trinket else someone dies

[hot igloo]

what should i buy with conquest this week?

[fierce elm]

nothing

save for wep

[elder wigeon]

man i really wouldn't step into 2's in this meta man

warrior is soooo bad LMAO

i die no matter what to every hunter team on the third trap

[sharp meteor]

triple leap double time short leap venth death sentence

first time seeing it in an actual match

[fierce elm]

Hey we faced that yesterday in 3s lmao

[lucid walrus]

john uptime

[tawdry stag]

would you say we are bad on 2s

[sharp meteor]

idk haven't played enough to know i hate 2s

[lucid walrus]

feels much worse

[sharp meteor]

2s is probably just hunter mirrors now

[soft plank]

Whats the 3s comp meta for arms then?

[lucid walrus]

1st day elite set was free but it sure wasn't fun

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor when you whiff the resonator on an rdruid

but he walks into it and dies anyway

[sharp meteor]

[nimble jasper]

so many druids tho holy fk

ermm hunters

[sharp meteor]

2s actually just hunter bracket now

queue up to get domed by a surv

[nimble jasper]

sec i say lets play a few games as assa on rog

all the hunters out the woodwork

2s is essentially hunter healer

dh healer

rogue mage

double hybrid

[sharp meteor]

prior to this patch i rarely queued into surv

now it's every other game

can't enjoy my rat alt matches

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

outlaw’s only fun im having in 2s now

and it feels awful into double hybrid

[sharp meteor]

yeah smack them with your wet noodle for five minutes

I'm just throwing my body at people until rival idc gimme fast games

[nimble jasper]

its great into hunters at least

But calling it now, jungle wins AWC

warrior nerf+triple aegis into rmp

[tired portal]

i got the +80 speed one. with gems im at 123% movement speed on my arms war

[tough pewter]

How often should I be ignore paining

If I'm the kill target and if I'm not

[paper heath]

I pretty much use it on cd. But I do it to help my healer preserve mana. Idk if it is good, since it does take quite some rage over the course of a game

But it feels like the right thing

[fierce elm]

You are gonna have so much rage anyways

IP also works on tactician procs

[fickle forge]

IP is best to use in exe range 😎 👍

[fierce elm]

IP execute macro

[maiden sparrow]

Any macros for this resonator?

feels so clunky to use

[cursive solstice]

Is Resonator still the go to trinket after it got nerfed?

[maiden sparrow]

I mean it's mega good if it hits

its still 15k dmg

it's not autoinclude but its definitely not bad

[warped warren]

everyone has the wa now anyways

and instatrinket when they see it

😴

[paper heath]

Which is still good

Because that means you forced trinket with just stormbolt and resonator

[undone pumice]

force trinket with piercing howl

[scarlet barn]

@spiral elbowgoFury#5197

still gone 👀

[formal summit]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] spear of bastion
/use [@cursor] 13

[warped warren]

@scarlet barn what did you do to our stormforged candidate

[quasi lotus]

[maiden sparrow]

Ty bonehammer

[undone pumice]

hi what classes are similar to warrior in peeveepee

[fierce elm]

Warrior is

[sage raptor]

Frost dk

Uhhh

DH is like Fury

[raw summit]

Fdk isnt like war imo

[sage raptor]

Warr with no execute

[raw summit]

And no St pressure

[warped warren]

sin rogue

[sage raptor]

If unholy wasn't a pet spec I'd say that.

[fickle forge]

Sin rogue is similar to DH Imo

[wheat jay]

what other class melts in 2 seconds?

cuz warr is similar to that from what i heard

[fickle forge]

🎣

[sage raptor]

Melts or gets melted?

[warped warren]

artji out here playing sv and cant relate to being able to die

[fickle forge]

Dw, I've plenty of clips

[steep inlet]

war is like frost dk

the fuck did i read

this discord really changed

[wet scarab]

It’s the only vaguely appropriate answer to a really bizarre question

What class is like another class

[steep inlet]

nah if you wanna find similarities take Outlaw for Warrior

for example

[wet scarab]

See how ridiculous the question is

[steep inlet]

sustained dmg, hook = leap, etc

[wet scarab]

There is no right answer

Warrior is like mage because piercing howl is like cone of cold

[steep inlet]

nana even r1 players said there is similarities between outlaw and war

[graceful quarry]

guys guys, warr is most similar to ret

[sage raptor]

Bruh who cares what r1 players say? Lol

They're sweaty.

[steep inlet]

i agree too i have an outlaw

it's similar

[sage raptor]

I have an outlaw as well and I don't think it is.

[steep inlet]

lol

more than "frost dk"

[sage raptor]

Frost dk is a plate wearing 2h melee like warr

They have a slow

And stuff

And you press 3 buttons. Like warr

I don't think one is more like warr than the other

[steep inlet]

If you press 3 button as war I see the problem here

[sage raptor]

.>

I'm gonna assume you actually seen the exaggeration and you're just trolling.

[undone pumice]

mortal stirk

ignore pain

execute

all other buttons are fillers

[fierce elm]

fdk compared to warrior KEKW

[fickle forge]

Warr and ret aren't too far apart tbh

[fierce elm]

Yall on something

[raw summit]

FDK is like warrior except that it isnt

[fierce elm]

Remember when warrior has an aoe stun and blind

[raw summit]

Oh and grip

[fierce elm]

or when warrior just grips people to them

[raw summit]

Vs charge

[fierce elm]

Love Warriors self-heal tbh

[versed nova]

Its the banners that I miss

[raw summit]

Dont forget the special weapon Enchants

[fickle forge]

Remember when FDK had Intervene, War Banner and Duel?? 😎 👍

[raw summit]

Or dome

[versed nova]

Intervening all over the shop

[fierce elm]

If making this dumb of a comparison then its probs outlaw

[raw summit]

Slappy hands is my favorite warrior spell

Tbh

[fickle forge]

Okay but, I'm sure the guy asked for similarities

Not copies

[undone pumice]

ok so outlaw = arms

ty boys

[fierce elm]

which is dumb lmao

[fickle forge]

Some classes are similar though 👀

[undone pumice]

from what i have gathered here havoc, outlaw and frostdk are the most similar

[fierce elm]

Yes, but warrior out of all, how the fuck do you compare that to anything in a fair manner

lmao

[undone pumice]

idk

braindead melee

with some mobility

and some amount of utilitu

= warrior

[fierce elm]

so every spec

[undone pumice]

yes

[graceful quarry]

ok so not ret then

[warped warren]

frappe mortelle* ☕

[undone pumice]

sterblicher schlag

🇩🇪

[graceful quarry]

does not fullfill the mobility criteria

[undone pumice]

it do tho

its mobile enough

[fickle forge]

What about sin rogue to DH? 👀

[fierce elm]

stop

[fickle forge]

Pretty sure they meet the same criteria

[magic tide]

How do you guys deal with affliction warlocks in 2s???

[wet scarab]

Shattering throw talent and line dark soul

That’s what worked for me

Or play with a mistweaver who prebubbles death bolt

[magic tide]

Ok ty

Playing with a resto druid

He can't dispell me, he dies lol

[wet scarab]

Yeah you should just line the dark soul go and you should be fine, use the buffed shattering throw on dark pact

Berserker rage before you do so he can’t fear you

Revival with MW is a great counter, I think everyone else should line it

[sharp meteor]

aff feels impossibly durable, like actual bait

[undone pumice]

every single class is tankier than warrior

[cold totem]

I'm a traitor guys, I'm leveling a enhancement shaman to see how it works

[undone pumice]

warrior is one of the squishiest classes

[coral mango]

just did 56k in rated with codemn

[sharp meteor]

u crank bigly with wolfbones

[hushed plank]

@coral mango show those screenshots

[sharp meteor]

and here's the warr i queued into yesterday running double time leaper bounding stride with death sentence

living the mobility dream

[undone pumice]

just go play DH

[sharp meteor]

can't wear the edgy red power ranger set as dh

[versed nova]

When upgrading from honor to conq gear, is there any order of which pieces to buy that is better stat-wise?

[warped warren]

wep > 875 pieces > cheap pieces

[sharp meteor]

not sure what it is for smaller pieces, but wep is by far the biggest upgrade even if you're comparing the alternative of buying 2-3 other pieces

so yeah wep then whatever else, probably big pieces like chest

basically you either sit around and don't buy shit for a long time or deal with some potential overlap

[tough compass]

Anyone else feels that Warri is kinda underwhelming in 2s rn? It feels like a real struggle to play 2s rn with 75% of the games beeing rDruid combs worst case with a hunter

[pale talon]

I can agree but I just suck ass

[versed nova]

I've just started playing again after 4 years and they are nothing compared to then

[wet scarab]

I might actually try venthyr with death sentence in 2s since it's a hunter meta to shake things up

[sharp meteor]

playing bm 2s felt weird into arms because they just like died

surv feels even more unfair as u just root on their stuff

[tough pewter]

starting out pvp, how the hell do i not die with only 7% vers

and everyone hitting arms these days

i'm perma d stance using every defensive i have

just getting my ass eaten

[raw summit]

Get more vera

Press IP more

[sharp meteor]

dont use dstance

use ip

and parry better

disarm better

then send dam harder

sitting dstance all game when behind sets u further behind

no longer dps neutral where u just sit d to stay safe etc

[tough pewter]

does using ip on cd not leave you rage starved at all or do you generate enough

[raw summit]

U get enough

[tough pewter]

stupid question, but when you want to burst someone in storm bolt

when you have to press stun, avatar, spear/banner, sharpen, CS, trinket, stormbolt whats the best order to do everything in, if you hit all your cds first they will just react and if you stun first you're using like 1-2 seconds just to get going

[sharp meteor]

depends

bolt is to stop them from pressing their buttons

avatar also breaks roots so can be good to not immediately send that

[undone pumice]

warvreaker is a better dmg cd

[tight totem]

It’s situational. Most people hold avatar to break roots because uptime is most important. Stun first then warbreaker with trinket is generally best

[tawdry stag]

if you were picking pvp trinket now, what would you pick?

[undone pumice]

defensive

battlemasters/aegis

[sharp meteor]

aegis

reso off bolt might b cool

just need to stagger stuff a bit, or align with spear if matchup permits

[pale minnow]

Just play spear + resonator

Until they nerf it

[sharp meteor]

actually so tired of spear

bout to send it as necro every game

just play insignia or battlemaster like a boomer

[tough pewter]

is sharpen on the gcd

[undone pumice]

🅱️ enthyr

no sharpen is not on the gcd

it is also one of the few abilities usable while goblin gliding

[sharp meteor]

nope

[undone pumice]

i have found UNCOUNTERABLE COMBO

rogue + warrior

u goblin glide in

rogue shadowsteps to u

kidneyshot spear smoke

optional resonator

epic bg combo

[fickle forge]

@spiral elbowgo

A hero has fallen

Also sry to the random guy who got pinged

It's Rovicus all over again

[full quiver]

😫 😫 😫 😫 😫

[fringe moat]

Is warrior good combo with rouge in 2s?

[steep inlet]

no

[full quiver]

Lol

Maybe if the rogue is pikaboo

[fickle forge]

Unironically saw a sub+arms in 2s on 2.7k mmr last season, but it really relies on the sub being so good he might as well have been 1v2, and you can just swap the warr for a ret

[wet scarab]

Only if you apply the rouge after arena door opens

[undone pumice]

ok so basicaly

rogue + war is bis

[steep inlet]

no

[undone pumice]

bis bg combo

glider + shadowstep into spear bomb

[wet scarab]

Add it to the guide

[versed nova]

I've hit conquest cap but have a quest that rewards conquest should I save it for next week or will it be reset?

[wet scarab]

I think the quest is weekly

But get the trinket early anyway you max out conquest so quickly if you do any PvP

And there’s usually a catch up

[gritty bough]

I saw smexxin changed to ven fury, wonder how that would go

[undone pumice]

yoo

venthyr gaming??

wait actually wtf why is he venfury