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nimble jasper
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with competent players

undone pumice
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like its obv harder than turbo or retwarr or kitty

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all the warrior comps are clowncar moments too

nimble jasper
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not wrong

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d stance nerf was wrong way to nerf warrior

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tho

undone pumice
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all the meta comls tbh

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is warrior unironically harder than rogue now

nimble jasper
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uhh

undone pumice
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sub

nimble jasper
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at the top end its a toss up

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warrior is easier at lower ratings

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cuz you can just q meleecleaves

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and w key

undone pumice
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game isnt balanced around lower ratinfs tho

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like tgis rogue i talked to said warrior is so easy you just learn the basics and its a free ride to 2.4k ur healer does everything

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i know hes right

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but rmp isnt much harder is it

sharp meteor
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u go 3 2 1

nimble jasper
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2.4 isnt that high tbh

sharp meteor
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then cc all three people

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and press button

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if they don't respond instantly they die

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run around until they off dr

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repeat

nimble jasper
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^

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main diff seems the really good rmps actually know

sharp meteor
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i have never seen people climb more easily than with rmx

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once they have the script it's over

nimble jasper
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how to swap and instagib someone

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lmao

sharp meteor
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there's so much ambiguity with other comps but rmp is like hi we cc ur whole team and if u overuse ONCE u insta lose next go

nimble jasper
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like the meh rmps follow a super scripted playstyle

sharp meteor
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which in the land of novoice lfg rmp just eats everybody

nimble jasper
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meanwhile i swear some of the high eu rmps just

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trinket super aggro

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and kill when people dont exprct

sharp meteor
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i like how i pull up stream of some cringe rmp we'll queue into where we pre wall a go

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and they're like kill through loolollol

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hate rmp

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hate it here

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hate jungle, too

undone pumice
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i love getting killed through dbtd and dstance by rogues alone

nimble jasper
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i saw a team q into a 2.7 jungle

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“if priest trinket domes sub 50% just kill through”

near delta
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Jesus christ lol

nimble jasper
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altho jungle has no business

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losing to rmp

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idk

undone pumice
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like how are all the best classes so easy

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it doesnt make sense

nimble jasper
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ferals are just malding cuz they cant sit kidney combust

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in bear form

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trading nothing

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and live

undone pumice
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warrior just goes face

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rogue u cannot fight back

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neither can u vs mage

nimble jasper
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kyrian lego means sub does dmg on its own now

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tbf s1 if mage couldnt hit you

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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you were safe

nimble jasper
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struggle with the class so much

undone pumice
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how do u die as mage

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at all

sharp meteor
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day drinking or queuing into jungle idk

undone pumice
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iceblock, soulshape, blink. frost nova

nimble jasper
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no like

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q with a low rated mage

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and its funny

undone pumice
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how do u lose vs a warrior cleave ever as rmp

nimble jasper
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how bad they are at living

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xd

undone pumice
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im at pisslow

nimble jasper
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like idk why but piss low mages

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just die to any comp that has either

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a dk

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a shaman

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or both

undone pumice
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eveey mage on my team is braindead and every mage on the enemy mage is a korean smurf doing zero to hero eu

nimble jasper
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even rm is like

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not fun to play

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if your mage isnt good

undone pumice
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why does it genuinely feel like

nimble jasper
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its actually tilting tbh

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watching the guy not pre cc

undone pumice
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other people just

nimble jasper
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or stop shit with sheeps

undone pumice
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hit harder and tank harder

nimble jasper
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rm vs melee healer is a meme

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guy pops damage you just

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sheep

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resheep dispel

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step mage at pillar

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congrats reset and go again soon

undone pumice
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why

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do rm complain arms cleaves are so easy

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and say they play the hardest 2 classes

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i dont get it

spice hornet
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so fucking sick of rogue/mage just ognna quit the game this season

nimble jasper
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who barely know how to play the game

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and spend 3-4 globals hamfisting around before doing a go

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altho early s1 arms was super gross ngl

near delta
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Also they tend to get super pissy when you beat them. Like they're entitled to win just cause they're playing rm.

nimble jasper
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I mean having played it most of the matchups you lose are 90% your own fault.

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That being said playing the comp with bad mages is the most tilting shit ever.

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Moreso than lfg healers who walk into rsham lines

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as a dh is w keying them

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then qq when they die

undone pumice
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like they say oh u can just be immjne to cc, u have fead, bannsr, bladestkrm, dbts, dstance

nimble jasper
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“yeah hold on im dying let me walk into rsham line to get dwayne smacked+purge banged+lava bursted”

undone pumice
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like none of those thinfs do much vs a rogue and combusting nutting mage

nimble jasper
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sometimes you can disarm dance vs bad rogue mages since they’ll sap your healer and spend 3-4 globals waddling over to you

sharp meteor
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sap target usually kt

nimble jasper
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yes

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but if you q in the pits

sharp meteor
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ya mordor mmr

nimble jasper
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you’re gonna get rogue mages who dint sap kt

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for some reason

sharp meteor
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sap kt, resasp, then chastise one and db>poly other

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SO CRINGE

nimble jasper
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I’ve legit had mages in mordor mmr

sharp meteor
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"dude just pre and hop they throw all their shit into it lmao"

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got i hate rm

nimble jasper
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expect me to sap healer

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like

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lmao

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????

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db poly

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you monkey

undone pumice
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like a semi decent rm feels impossible to beat as arms

nimble jasper
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i dont understand

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its not like every streamer doesnt show you

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how sapping kt is better

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pepega

dark leaf
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Fury Prio? Bloodthirst if not enraged, Raging Blow if enraged?

undone pumice
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yes

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whirl if both on cd

dark leaf
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Anyone have a good enrage WA?

undone pumice
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ingame ragebar

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i think under player frames its like personal resource display

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also shows OP stacks

dark leaf
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I turn that off 😦

spice hornet
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theres a new ground effect for the resonator

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you can see the exact radius

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but ofc no nerf

sharp meteor
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sdkjadas

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well at least u can soak for teammates

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zz

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and next week can get counter trinket for rmx

raw summit
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Intervene safeguard

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Kinda big into bomb

sharp meteor
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u can also soak through duel

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although flag rogue still instagibs in duel for some reason

lucid walrus
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vanish funny moments

spice hornet
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why everytime i carry one of my bad pve friends in 2s i always run into that morangsaki rogue

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i literally hate that guy

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4 rogues doing that venthyr one dance shit 24/7

scarlet barn
jaunty furnace
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Need a way bigger nerf

manic patio
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its still bis right

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with kyrian spear

spice hornet
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they didnt wanna nerf it too hard, otherwise rmx would not be viable

nimble jasper
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slap on the wrist

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call it a season

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xd

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now instead of it hitting 22k non crit it’ll hit 18k

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so i guess they made it so you have to at least press something besides kidney to kill someone with triple resonators

lucid walrus
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you actually have to have your hands on the keyboard when you triple resi now

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neat

nimble jasper
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thats unironically all it does

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lmfao

lucid walrus
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wish they'd just prevent it from critting

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more obnoxious than shackle imo. shorter cd as well

nimble jasper
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that’d be nice too

spice hornet
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soo many dh rdruid qing 2s rn

nimble jasper
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they should have just not added any of these new trinks

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also swear fastidious resolve might be nutty

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on healers

wheat jay
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Yep

spice hornet
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yep

wheat jay
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Dh meta I guess

spice hornet
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soo many dhs

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they need to fix blur

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the dodge %

wheat jay
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There were 3 more that I /afk

spice hornet
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sooo ufkcing broken

wheat jay
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So reflex doesnt show it

near delta
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I'm usually able to bait it with spear + avatar then warbreaker after it's down but they're pumping so much damm the entire time

quasi glen
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Hello! I'm fairly new to pvp and I'm looking to change my UI. Does anyone have any pointers or ideas of what a good set up should be?

sharp meteor
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whatever lets u see what u need to see

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entirely personal preference although obviously there are some things that are always good, like seeing DRs on everybody including you and your teammates

spice hornet
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dh is st ill doing too much dmg

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even with the kyrian boom nerf

severe skiff
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did something change with the season launch? outside of bomb it feels like DHs are doing even more damage than they did last week, got hit for a 24k fel rush earlier

sharp meteor
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ya diminish

sharp meteor
quasi glen
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Thank you 😊

gritty bough
near delta
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elder wigeon
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looks like the resonator was nerfed to also not be able to crit either

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I haven't seen it crit in any of my games

full quiver
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Nooooo

sharp meteor
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haha die meme 1-shot trinket die

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now nerf rmp/jungle and this season could be cool

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hpriest too

full quiver
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It was fun on my crit kyrian war

wheat jay
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Dogshit trinket

sharp meteor
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blessed devs making tweaks so fast

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aaaa

wheat jay
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Now nerf to dh and rmp

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And all is fine

frank knoll
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Raids back on the menu boys

elder wigeon
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god damnit

frank knoll
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They’ll hot fix it in 6 months

wheat jay
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Agility

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Its a free real estate for me 👍

lucid walrus
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nameplatecds or something like it is also nice depending on what plates you use

full quiver
spice hornet
wheat jay
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But if we're at that, nerf warrior dmg

full quiver
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Lol

severe skiff
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haven't seen a crit since I saw the hotfix

frank knoll
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Is the resonator even worth playing then

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If it’s gonna hit for like 15-17k

severe skiff
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At current gear levels its still like 20-30% of an hp bar chunked off on a go, if its getting soaked vs like pet classes or on high passive damage reduction classes like priests

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prob not

elder wigeon
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Yeah i wouldn't play it if it can be soaked easily by pets or easily immuned

wheat jay
spice hornet
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they arleady nerfed warrior lol

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jungle and rmx were untouched

full quiver
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Hunter brain smh

wheat jay
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They should have nerfed dmg done and left dstance as it was imo

elder wigeon
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preaching to the choir

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but you do understand that's nowhere near as big of a nerf right?

wheat jay
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Which one

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Dstance nerf?

elder wigeon
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yes

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what you're proposing isn't as big of a nerf

wheat jay
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I mean, dstance nerf in itself is also small

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But dmg of a warrior is sometimes unreal

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Id prefer to see that being nerfed rather than survivability

elder wigeon
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warrior damage should be extremely high

wheat jay
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Should it?

elder wigeon
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yes

wheat jay
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Why

elder wigeon
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it's always been that way

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that's been its thing, if warrior is on you, you're dying, fast

full quiver
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Until now

elder wigeon
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well now you're just dying fast as warrior keks

full quiver
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Now if warriors on you, you walk him into middle of map so he dies

wheat jay
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Lmao

lucid walrus
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the iterations most people consider the best are also the burstiest. real coincidence

wheat jay
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Love how y'all doom when you get Tiny nerf

elder wigeon
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lmao

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tiny

wheat jay
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Kinda like rogues crying over smallest nerfs

full quiver
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It's a big nerf

lucid walrus
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it'd be way less consequential if the other 2 talents were worthwhile

wheat jay
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Ye ye

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Warrior is now squishest in the game

elder wigeon
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unironically

full quiver
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Atleast make it only 10% less dam dealt

wheat jay
lucid walrus
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10/10, 15/20, 20/30 would all be fine by me

full quiver
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I die so much faster on war than dh now lol

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It's stupid

elder wigeon
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mages take the most damage in the game of any class, but they aren't so easy to kill are they?

lucid walrus
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wall/damage output reduction respectively

full quiver
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Make die by 45s 😂

wheat jay
elder wigeon
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remove craven then sure

wheat jay
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Ok

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Its barely used now anyway okayge

nimble jasper
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i think ignore pain should have gotten hit

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if anything

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the fact it isnt a dmg loss to press is uhh…

elder wigeon
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I murder hunters that think they can get away with not running craven

nimble jasper
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or not much

wheat jay
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Kek

elder wigeon
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but in 3 weeks you just auto lose to hunter as warrior

wheat jay
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Yep

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Craven is counter to kyrian warr

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No craven is counter to necro

elder wigeon
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already impossible to beat survival at high rating in 2's post nerf

nimble jasper
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surv doesnt lose to anything in 2s

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tbf

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been that way multiple expacs it feels

lucid walrus
wheat jay
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Fking pugs

full quiver
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Yeah it breaks after u go from 80% to 20%

elder wigeon
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you have some semblance of a chance if you play with hpally

wheat jay
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Do you 😂

full quiver
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That and binding shot

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Are so fucking busted

elder wigeon
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it's not 0%

nimble jasper
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outlaw is funny into hunters who dont know

wheat jay
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Binding shot never breaks iirc

nimble jasper
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what to feign

elder wigeon
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it can't break on damage

nimble jasper
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or trinket the most random kidneys

full quiver
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Yeah it's aids

wheat jay
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Can be dispelled tho

elder wigeon
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venthyr survival hunters have 4 roots

wheat jay
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Just have healer with more than 2iq

wet scarab
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Lol my healer partners are already burned out from the season so far. Back to lfg

nimble jasper
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steel trap can only be broken by root breaks

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right

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cant dispel

wheat jay
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Noone plays binding on survi

wheat jay
full quiver
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Lol barely

wheat jay
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You have Avatar and bladestorm to get out of it

nimble jasper
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throw steel trap

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w key healer

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xd

wheat jay
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You do have tools to get out of some of them xd

full quiver
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What's that they're out of steel trap? Better diamond ice them

wheat jay
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Just gotta not misplay those

full quiver
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What's that they're out of diamond ice better steel trap them

wheat jay
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It is what it is I guess

full quiver
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😂

wheat jay
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Survi better in 2s

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Warrior in 3s

full quiver
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It's ok the hunters to 2.1 are idiots

wheat jay
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Imo its better to be meta in 3s

full quiver
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And I don't need anything past that in 2s lol

nimble jasper
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lmao freest cr

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of my life

full quiver
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Lol

nimble jasper
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esp bm cuz its like

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guy’s upset he reset evasion for the third time

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in 2mins

full quiver
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Lol

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Yeah outlaw is pretty cancer in 2s

nimble jasper
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dude its great watching dhs tilt trinket out of gouge

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or disarms

full quiver
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Cancer mich

lucid walrus
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venth still?

nimble jasper
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venthyr till double lego

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psure assa takes over after

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depends how hunter heavy meta is

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lmao

lucid walrus
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reasonable

nimble jasper
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i dont wanna see kyrian outlaw lol

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even more cdr

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than it is rn

lucid walrus
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can't imagine

nimble jasper
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less burst more sustained

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altho chance you might eat 2 greenskin pistol shots in a kidney

spice hornet
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rofl i just got the sigil trinket

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1.1k vers on use

lucid walrus
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gross

ember rose
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Smh war nerfs are so stupid

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And i don’t even play anymore

celest pike
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What do we currently play in 2s? Kyrian Mikanikos+Resonator?

elder wigeon
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yeah kyrian is the best for 2's

celest pike
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feels weak, like the 1 min burst is so predictable

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and somehow other warriors just walk out of my spear

full quiver
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R u playing with rdruid

gritty bough
celest pike
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Ah vortex dr prolly

full quiver
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Yeah

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Was my guess

jaunty furnace
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What stats would you focus on as fury for pvp

elder wigeon
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fury is trash

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any healer with two brain cells will soothe your enrage off and fuck you hard

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rogues also can shiv it off

jaunty furnace
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I see more people playing it than any other season right now

elder wigeon
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because they're coping

sharp meteor
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for now at least

lucid walrus
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hate this feedback loop of "fury is better now guys copium "

sharp meteor
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i mean it is

craggy socket
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is it just me or is there alot less people playing 9.2

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sitting in lfg for along time

lucid walrus
elder wigeon
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fury isn't better lmao

sharp meteor
lucid walrus
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massive influx of copers. it sure as shit isn't better

warm quiver
manic patio
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I was told that the bomb trinket can't crit anymore, is that true? I don't see anything about that in the wowhead article

elder wigeon
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it can't crit

hasty fractal
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First night of RBGs tonight, do I still take defstance?? Extra mobility or very rapid healing when not taking damage is nice...

nimble jasper
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@sharp meteor

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THIS SEEMS FINE

sharp meteor
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second wind kind of troll in the pvp

nimble jasper
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and yes that's a 40k non crit

sharp meteor
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haha bonk

nimble jasper
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fyi

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it can crit

jaunty furnace
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no one will invite you from LFG unless you are Kyrian lmao

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I keep getting whispers asking if I am

sharp meteor
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thinkin about when i got declined from yolo rbgs in s1 for being venth

languid spruce
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has anyone been randomly lagging out of arenas? sometimes I'll get stuck at loading screen and sometimes just sitting at the game

lucid walrus
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resonator got gutted harder let's go

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i hate rmp i hate rmp i hate rmp i h

spice hornet
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log on my dh to have fun

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get 7 sec kidney over and over

elder wigeon
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can't win

sharp meteor
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wanna chill on assa rogue

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queue into 4 diff surv hunters in a row

elder wigeon
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quicker you realize survival runs the 2v2 bracket the happier you'll be

sharp meteor
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yeah it is actual hell

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chill in solo shuffle on healer alts bedge

elder wigeon
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people are busy doing a lot of content rn

sharp meteor
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yeah it is a busy week

frank knoll
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Enhance is pretty fun rn

nimble jasper
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someone asked nessper which rogue spec for 2s

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“depends how hunter heavy the meta is”

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lmfao

spice hornet
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fire mage shouldnt have invis sadge

wet scarab
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if you take one thing out of their stupid toolkit you paralyze the entire thing

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it's ridiculous

rain ravine
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in 2s is arms just straight up better than fury

undone pumice
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depends if u play with a healer

elder wigeon
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only hybrid you can play with in 2's is feral and arms is best with that

paper heath
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Dude so many classes can just get out of Kyrian spear

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It's actually stupid

undone pumice
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a lot who shouldnt also glitch out

paper heath
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Think Imma stay Necro tbf

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Well idk

teal nest
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is fury war any good in pvp

fickle forge
paper heath
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Can just fade it, bop it, feign it, gate it etc

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Small cds to use for such cd

teal nest
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Sp os resonator still bis?

sharp meteor
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i mean it'll sting on an isolated target

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and it's good by virtue of being a burst trinket that's 30 item levels higher than current gear

teal nest
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Welp i fked up haha oh well

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i took maledict

sharp meteor
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aegis absorbs resonator, maledict eats aegis

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kind of neat

teal nest
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Massacre or Rend as necro arms

sharp meteor
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throughput if you don't bungle rage management

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or more finishing power

floral ingot
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Wth

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Out of all the things listed only feign is a smaller cd than spear

paper heath
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Fade is 45 seconds, spear is 1 min

floral ingot
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That’s not true

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If your dk grips and you spear 3 targets spear is a 45 sec cd

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And even if you don’t play mikanikos the priest will still hold fade for your spear

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So it may as well be a 1 min cd

sharp meteor
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i run enduring then spear to bait fade dander

floral ingot
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Exactly

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Play enduring, remove one of priests defensives without using anything

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Sounds like a good trade to me

fickle forge
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Why would you throw it when you know they have outs?

sharp meteor
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to get them to use their out so you can go back to hitting them with your stick

fickle forge
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Either one is good value

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Chuck spear, priest uses GF and then you hit him with the actual burst 😎 👍

sharp meteor
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yeah getting fade out of the way with just spear means that those three seconds can't be used out of bolt when you send damage

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just what we did versus most spriest teams last season

lean island
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we need to do zm story line with alts for pvp?

odd nest
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if you dont you loose alot of rep

lean island
radiant hamlet
fickle forge
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Absorb this spear for me babe

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I'll handle the burst

radiant hamlet
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Smooth bastards

main copper
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Get enemy DH to 12%, he runs round the piller. Manages to LoS his own priest who was chasing after him and ran round the entire pillar back to me to receive a very confused execute.

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Thanks I guess chief.

rain ravine
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double dps 2s should i be necro

radiant hamlet
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Out of curiosity, what counters sv in 2s?

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Other than another sv xeos

fathom current
radiant hamlet
cold totem
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What's the first item I should buy with conquest?

wheat jay
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Lmao

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Other than that, you lose

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Dont misplay your root breaks

atomic ingot
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Further arms nerfs when? This ape spec must be put to rest

steep inlet
#

leave this chan

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traitor

manic patio
#

Is there any other way to get the other new pvp trinkets or can you only get 1?

west snow
#

any other Arms expect dmg nerv since new ID? I knoe the def stance nerv. But also i dropt like a MF Cloth-armor-class and i do less dmg on other players.... 🤔 and i have duelist gesr from last season....

cold totem
west snow
cold totem
#

I saw the weekly tag on it

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I don't see the reason to choose only one trinket

formal summit
#

Yea I heard it’s weekly too

cold totem
elder wigeon
#

man MLD can make a man cry

cold totem
#

xD

elder wigeon
#

was getting farmed for like 3 games of super damp ones, last 4 we farmed them, just had to play damn near perfect

#

I didn't play any 2's today btw sorry

cold totem
#

Oh chill mate

elder wigeon
#

put this turbo on farm though, was playing war boomie rdruid

cold totem
#

No worries

elder wigeon
#

played them like 6 or 7 times, beat them every game

cold totem
#

No pressure at all

fickle forge
#

Did you had the pleasure of going up against MLCHI in BFA Resune?

elder wigeon
#

no I played bfa for 10 minutes and decided it wasn't worth the anguish

fickle forge
#

That's shorter than the average match against MLCHI in BFA

elder wigeon
#

we love it when casters are designed in a way that it's either 15 minute dampeners or they die instantly

cold totem
#

I played the beggining of bfa, and the end of bfa only pve

#

I heard corruptions made pvp unplayable

#

I think some of the new trinkets will be viable into some comps

elder wigeon
fickle forge
elder wigeon
#

we love turbo

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and their ability to dampen

fickle forge
#

Thought that was ret+warr tbh

elder wigeon
#

nah was playing with someone I haven't played with much

#

he's insane, pretty fun to play with too

golden folio
cold totem
#

Reflex

elder wigeon
#

in the last game lmao

cold totem
#

L O L

elder wigeon
#

I was playing necrolord all of that q sesh

#

was a lot of fun

cold totem
#

im playing duos now as kyrian

elder wigeon
#

yeah I'd only play kyrian in 2's unless playing with a feral

cold totem
#

i think I might go for a more haste based build

#

Instead of crit

elder wigeon
#

yup

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I play 20% haste

undone pumice
#

i like 50/50 atm but im also bad

cold totem
#

I think if you play necro a lot, haste feels smoother

#

And as kyrian crit

#

But I haven't played that much

elder wigeon
#

Nah i like a lot of haste even as kyrian

undone pumice
#

i played kyr crit last season

elder wigeon
#

and will especially like it with enduring blow

cold totem
#

What's your cd on ms?

elder wigeon
#

5 seconds

undone pumice
#

its 6 second with 0 haste

cold totem
#

Alright mine is like 5.7

undone pumice
#

mine is like 5.2

elder wigeon
#

any more haste than 20% feels bad

cold totem
#

5.2 looks good

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Unity will be crafted on ring for sure

elder wigeon
#

I tried playing with 26% haste earlier, felt like I was rage starved because my gcd was so fast

elder wigeon
#

yeah

undone pumice
#

crit also gives u more rage

#

straight up

#

37 rage per auto instead of 25 i believe if critting

elder wigeon
#

yeah if you crit your autos

cold totem
#

whats the haste cap?

undone pumice
#

30 is tge softcap for all stats i believe

#

yeah crit = more rage from crit auto

elder wigeon
#

yeah but more haste doesn't feel better

#

past 20%

undone pumice
#

yeah

#

more crit does tho

#

bit ladt season i had ZERO haste so i was either fulyl ragestarved or ragecapped

cold totem
#

Ill try more haste based this season

elder wigeon
#

stats I'm running and liking a lot right now

undone pumice
#

haste feels great when you play fury or used to pve

cold totem
#

15min looking for a healer

#

cause i dont have higher xp

undone pumice
#

ill heal u

#

with bandages

cold totem
#

those are reliqs

#

dont use them on me

undone pumice
#

11k bandages

#

i have too many bandages is my problem

cold totem
#

my pvp ilvl is 249

undone pumice
#

so sometikes i cheese with bounding

#

leap behind pillar and bandage

elder wigeon
cold totem
#

i think almost 3% crit is not that worth compared to 16% more haste

#

wow

undone pumice
#

my pvp ilvl is 260 ish

cold totem
#

I trolled hard

undone pumice
#

but my regular ilvl is like 240 as well

elder wigeon
#

nah you didn't your stats aren't going to be that amazing I have full sockets

cold totem
#

haste sockets?

elder wigeon
#

I'm also sacrificing versatility for more haste

undone pumice
#

ah

cold totem
#

that makes sense

elder wigeon
#

I have 4 16 haste gems slotted

undone pumice
#

yeahi have like

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significantly more vers than u at lower ilvl

elder wigeon
grand scaffold
#

but you can go past 30%

#

its just harder to stack haste past that point

undone pumice
#

u running m+ for tiersets @elder wigeon

#

?

elder wigeon
#

I'm gonna try to do some yeah

#

hard to find the time

undone pumice
#

i wanna do like

#

weekly 1 m+ 15

elder wigeon
#

this is what I like about 20% haste

undone pumice
#

wtf is that addon

cold totem
#

was gonna ask the same

elder wigeon
#

dejacharacterstats

cold totem
#

like we tried tirna

#

First boss 6 minutes

undone pumice
#

tirna tives me vancer

#

only one i will ever do is ToP

#

bis dungekn tbh

raw summit
#

NW

#

Literally does itself

undone pumice
#

necrotic wake looks shit tho

cold totem
#

YUP

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tried it on reset with my +15 key

#

third boss was ass

#

I think now you get like help if u wipe a lot right?

frigid bear
#

Enu, are you playing Warbringer into much in arena?

#

I feel like i never have a slot for Warbringer

#

With Disarm / Warbanner / Sharpen being needed so often

undone pumice
#

sharpen is mandatoru

fickle forge
undone pumice
#

you have 2 honor talents

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banner/disarm a LOT

#

so mostly u just dont get to pick

grand scaffold
elder wigeon
frigid bear
#

Master Commander i am mostly taking too

undone pumice
#

master and commander is

elder wigeon
#

I pmuch never take that

undone pumice
elder wigeon
#

was taking it vs the MLD though

#

needed the extra defensive

frigid bear
#

My defaults are Sharpen / Disarm / Master and i change out master to warebanner vs mages/hunters

fierce elm
#

master and commanded cringle

frigid bear
#

Oh really. I'll probably bin that off then

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Gimme big charges

undone pumice
#

my default is like sharpen warbringer death sentence if i dont need any other talent like banner/disarm

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which is almost never

fickle forge
undone pumice
#

thats a softcap

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hard cap is when you have to stop

frigid bear
#

Sounds good

scarlet barn
#

No caps

grand scaffold
undone pumice
#

hard cap is like 99 in souls games

scarlet barn
#

Well you also need context of what guy was asking

fickle forge
#

In most cases at least

undone pumice
#

idk sometimes most people go past a softcap

scarlet barn
#

30% is just point where dim returns start

fickle forge
#

Sometimes yeah

undone pumice
#

like versa most people have 30+

fickle forge
#

But a softcap is a point you can stop and reach some level of effectiveness

undone pumice
#

in dark souls most people have more than 27 vigor

shadow pollen
#

Anyone got a spear + resonator macro?

frigid bear
#

Are you guys all still team defensive stance?

#

If yes are you in it much less?

undone pumice
#

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor]Spear of Bastion
/use [@cursor]cosmic gladiator's resonator

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probably needs some adjusting

shadow pollen
#

Tyty

#

Yeah dw names are w/e

shadow pollen
shadow pollen
undone pumice
#

i think just 13/14 works instead of the resonatoes full name

shadow pollen
#

Ye item slots work

tight relic
#

What's like a good default cov I haven't done arenas since 9.0 lol

fickle forge
#

Kyrian

tight relic
#

And if I'm just doing for like 1800 just grab a pally n go?

undone pumice
#

for 2s or 3s

#

in 3s ret pally plus a healer is great, in 2s grab an rsham or smth if u can

onyx dagger
#

What's our goto new trinket

undone pumice
#

resonator or aegis

fickle forge
tight relic
#

I'm pretty far removed I did hit 2400 in 9.0 but I don't know shit now haha any good like 2s matrix for comps strats etc

fickle forge
#

It's the same really

#

Go in and stomp people's nuts with damage

#

😎 👍

craggy socket
#

Hey guys im sorry for being negative here over the last couple days, its been a rough time here for.

onyx dagger
#

Fury less bad comparitively with arms nerf this season?

wet scarab
#

RIP resonator, you came, you 1-shotted, you were nerfed

wheat jay
#

no rip, may it rest in hell

finite fox
#

What’s the new trinket set bonus give?

finite fox
#

Is it primary stat + stam

scarlet barn
fickle forge
wary frigate
finite fox
#

Anyone know how long the healing absorption debuff lasts from the new trinket ?

onyx dagger
#

word

wicked magnet
#

Shaman
Restoration
The bonus damage from the Raging Vesper Vortex (Kyrian Runecarving Power) has been reduced by 35%.

#

i actually thought for a while there i was going to get away with full vesper + earth ele lego xD

sharp meteor
#

night fae might b cool offensive pick

tawdry stag
#

havent played this season, would you guys say we are still competetive class?

fierce elm
#

Yes

tawdry stag
#

great as I can see just one warriior in first top100 on 2s

#

so wa a little bit confused

fierce elm
#

I mean, are you gonna be top 100 in 2s

tawdry stag
#

what happens in top 100 reflect of the rest of the ladder a little bit

#

imo

near delta
#

Feels like we're quite a bit better in 3s than 2s imo

fierce elm
#

sure, but is it relevant info for you

#

Is more the question

tawdry stag
#

it is. It easier for me to get 2.5k on a bis class, than on the C tier class

fierce elm
#

Why not just roll the clearly good choice then lmao

raw summit
#

We're not dk

#

But we arent rmp either

tawdry stag
#

When I started this discussion I did not know if warrior is clearly good choice or not

#

that is why I asked 😄

#

but from what you are saying, we are not that great, but competetive

fierce elm
#

Ye

raw summit
#

Upper middle imo

tawdry stag
#

is our position going be changed while we are fully geared?

#

I know its hard to predict the future

#

but some people are good at it

ancient tulip
#

holy hell its hard to get into any groups....

#

for m+ i got +17 streets from vault but im not posting it no way

fierce elm
ancient tulip
#

oh im so sorry... did not notice ;/

grand scaffold
#

i dont think much will change

scarlet barn
#

Meta develops through whole season

#

So much may change

sharp meteor
grand scaffold
#

if classes arent changed arms will stay the same

tough compass
#

Enhancer kinda pumps, im very interested in trying turbo

undone pumice
#

ok so

grand scaffold
#

?

undone pumice
#

am i buying a 262 belt or a 262 ring/bracers, i will get both but which first, rn i have a 235 enduring belt and idk if i should save so i can buy unity first

grand scaffold
#

unity is free on belt

#

just gotta complete chapters

undone pumice
#

yeah but im not putting

#

eb on head

#

because thats the tier piece with versa

#

thats like crack cocaine retarded

grand scaffold
#

then make unhinged

#

on ring

fierce elm
#

what the fuck unhinged

grand scaffold
#

yeah

#

elysian might + unhinged?

undone pumice
#

no?

#

that seems RARTED

grand scaffold
#

rarted

#

wow

plain wing
#

that would be some bigggggg ole dam

vital crane
#

what ilvl do i get from pvp vault?

#

PVE ilvl

quick nimbus
#

i play 2s with a disc. what trinekt from the new quest should i take? any pointers?

undone pumice
#

resonator or aegis

#

probabl

scarlet barn
#

These kind of claims are shot in the dark

grand scaffold
#

is that not how scaling works?

scarlet barn
#

Thats not even about scaling but synergies

#

Also scaling doesnt really work the way you may think

#

Cause it is blizz turning the knob

#

Not the specs being specially good in scaling

crystal moon
#

should i go with resonator or aegis for these new trinkets?

undone pumice
#

do u want bomberclartz or be immune to bomberclartz

crystal moon
#

bro idk

undone pumice
#

1 shot or be 1 shot

sage raptor
#

Lmao

#

Outlaw

#

I love my outlaw rogue but it's much more annoying being on the receiving end.

fair sequoia
#

is pelagos still the correct tree

#

or is everyone running bron now

grand scaffold
#

bron

spice hornet
#

2v2 now is bfa s4 all over again

#

mainly assass rogues jsut pveing you down

wheat jay
#

i've seen like one in 75 games

#

XD

spice hornet
#

must be nice

#

its just hutners, rogues, dhs

#

all usually with rdruids

grand scaffold
#

pushing cr not that bad tho

#

the main annoyance is assa rogues tho

#

too much dmg

spice hornet
#

auto attack is their #1 dmg

#

actually sad

elder wigeon
#

Slice and dice op

hearty hatch
#

in 3v3, what's the strongest comp for arms?

spice hornet
#

rerolling sub rogue

hearty hatch
#

lol

#

is arms not good?

spice hornet
#

nahh its good probably will be better with more gear and the double leggo but rn it isnt as feeling as good as s2

hearty hatch
#

why are people going necro??

spice hornet
#

most ppl have been necro unless playing wps with spear

hearty hatch
#

what avantages does being necro offer?

hot igloo
#

before double leggo what legendary should i use for rbgs?

grand scaffold
#

depends on your covenant

undone pumice
hearty hatch
#

what covenant is most popular for rbgs?

undone pumice
#

probably 50/50 between necro and kyrian

near delta
fair sequoia
#

this right?

elder wigeon
#

No I'd play safeguard over any other finesse and I'd also probably play brutal vitality instead of anima spherule

#

I'd put big rally next to the sparkling core and keep disturb the peace where it's at

wet scarab
#

Lol afflock tier set got buffed

wheat jay
#

Oof

wet scarab
#

Oh and fury’s theoretical moment in the sunlight is done

#

The set bonuses have been nerfed

sage raptor
#

Feral got buffed

scarlet barn
#

@grand scaffold told you they will nerf fury

steep inlet
#

#

Already…

wet scarab
#

lol before anyone even had a chance to get the 4-piece

#

I mean how do you decide something is overtuned before it's live

#

and why does that not happen with things like demon hunters and rogues and resto druids

#

or hpriests

wheat jay
#

Simulations

#

And those are targeted at pve not pvp

#

Tho they do affect pvp too

#

Usual blizz stuff

scarlet barn
#

Well necro now is again bottom feeder in pve

#

Which means it is even worse in pvp

scarlet barn
fickle forge
#

Lol

#

Bye PvP fury

wheat jay
#

That didnt take long

#

Waiting for wildfire bomb tier set buff okayge

scarlet barn
#

Was done before it even had a chance

near delta
#

Yo DH is cracked in 2s

#

All the hard matchups on arms are super easy

near delta
fickle forge
#

Fury
Decent

Pick one

near delta
#

Lol

scarlet barn
#

Nah man

#

Fury still better than arms

#

Right

fickle forge
#

Right

scarlet barn
fickle forge
near delta
#

I got it guys

#

Lumberjack cleave but with fury

#

One kyrian and one nf

#

boom

fickle forge
#

Lumberjack cleave but with fury

scarlet barn
spice hornet
#

i wish i could put people on an ignore list so i dont have to qinto them

#

like people who run cringe fucking shit like adelgabrr

#

even when you win its just like why do you play so fucking lame and try to cheese ppl

sage raptor
#

Gfd

#

Arms playstyle is so aids but it's soo much better than fury.

clever fern
#

any macro to combo spear+new trinket?

#

or we still using the old one?

spice hornet
#

@cursor for both

elder wigeon
spice hornet
#

ya he sucks

#

but its still annoying almsot dying to that shit

near delta
#

What does he do?

cold totem
#

Frost Mage Holy Priest

#

I swear I played it really good

#

But holy shit I think I have to lite when his in that necrolord form or whatever

gloomy hamlet
#

hey. looking to try playing a melee class for a change, wondering between warrior and paladin. how do warriors do as a solo pvp player / in 1on1s?

elder wigeon
elder wigeon
lucid walrus
lucid walrus
thick reef
#

dam is fine but lack of healing makes them so bad

gloomy hamlet
#

righty then, not warrior xD ty all 🙂

thick reef
#

np, ret on the other hand is insane in 1v1s tho 🙂 if u were wondring

shell raft
#

Have we figured out yet which slots we're using for legendaries as Arms with the tier sets?

elder wigeon
#

likely belt for EB and ring for unity

#

for mirror, probably neck

#

Unhinged, either wrist or ring

wet scarab
#

if you line a frost mage for it they basically just jerk off for the rest of the game's duration

plain wing
#

damn was actually excited to dabble with fury, seems super fun compared to arms

#

big ole nerfs

elder wigeon
#

raid trinkets nerfed

grand scaffold
#

goodbye playing fury in pvp

#

cant believe they nerfed it that badly

#

crazy

#

stupid blizzard not letting fury be proper in pvp

#

ridiculous

grand scaffold
#

so annoying

plain wing
#

wow bg's are a complete shit show eh

#

just been in non stop matches where all,i farms horde graveyard

#

in wsg

#

over and over and over

#

actual garbage

elder wigeon
#

mercenary bgs bro

languid spruce
#

anyone up for some low cr arena? i can heal on rsham horde or ally

elder wigeon
#

completely solves this problem, it's not unique to this expac either, been a thing since forever

sharp meteor
#

i can't remember a period where there weren't gy curbstomps

#

even in mop wod and legion when gearing was closer

#

hell wod was probably the worst

plain wing
#

holy fuck bg's are so cringe right now

wet scarab
#

So it appears the solution to my dstance problems was to play with a bait

#

Bye bye melee cleaves hello sp

plain wing
#

hunters impossible to kill in open in a bg

#

just cant touch them

#

such a dogshit smootho class

#

cringeee

wet scarab
#

Did well with spriest rsham combo

#

Purge city countering rdruids hard

plain wing
#

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HIT BM H UNTER

#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

THEY HAVE SO MANY FUCKING CC

sharp meteor
#

u don't lmaooo

plain wing
#

AND SO MUCH FUCKNIG SLOW

#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

LIKE HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL A HUNTER IN A BG

#

ITS FUCKING RETARDED

sharp meteor
#

2s is the hunter bracket

plain wing
#

like how the fuck do you hit a bm hunter in a fucking bg

#

how the fuck is this game still being made

#

its so fucking bad

#

i dont understand how fucking stuipd devs are

#

YEA LETS JUST MAKE A CLASS THAT CANT BE HIT

#

HAS MULTIPLE ROOT AND SLOW CLEARS

#

BUT ALSO

#

INSANEEEEE MOBILITY

#

AND CANT BE HIT

#

MAKES SENSE BLIZZZZ

#

fucking dipshits fucking cucks

elder wigeon
#

play rated bgs bro

plain wing
#

make ur game good.

elder wigeon
#

you're spinning your tires screaming about random bgs

#

you've got no healers pocketing you or dispelling you that you would have in a rated bg

#

and hunters are very very rarely in team fights in rated bgs

wet scarab
#

Lol dude if you’re getting tilted by random bgs you need to get your prios right

#

Nobody cares about keeping you alive

#

Either do it for shits and giggles or don’t do it

#

It’s 0 reward

sharp meteor
#

just tell a healer that their mog is cute then stay near them and always get heals 👌

undone pumice
#

mission faiked

#

i dont have a healer in my bg

graceful quarry
#

another banger rant by bruin

sharp meteor
#

can't wait to hear from him when he queues into aff/frost, splay or jungle

nimble jasper
#

free wins

steep inlet
#

Bruin still discovering the game as Warrior

full quiver
#

He has such a good understanding of the game

undone pumice
#

im sure he will get 2.1k in the next 2 months

raw summit
#

Just wait till bruin tries to duel a mage

nimble jasper
#

aaaaaaaaa

#

bout to land the driveby kick on priest healer to win match

undone pumice
#

haha root go brrr

nimble jasper
#

fucking hunter's venthyr roots keeps me out of range

undone pumice
#

shoulda saved avatar

cold totem
cold totem
spice hornet
#

wayy too many assass rogues out there

grand scaffold
#

lmao im gearing one

spice hornet
#

theres no reason to play a warrior over one

#

basically a better version of warrior

tawny elm
#

still worth getting the resonator?

elder wigeon
#

as a warrior? ehhh yes but not this week I don't think, I think the aegis is better post resonator nerf

#

if you're gonna play TSG, then yeah I'd get the resonator

tawny elm
#

just gonna play 2s with my MW friend 🙂

#

so aegis then

near inlet
#

Ohh shitt fury set nerf :s

grand scaffold
#

fury is still gonna be playable

#

just

#

not gonna be OP

elder wigeon
#

i wouldn't touch it

frank knoll
#

What macro do you use new trinket with?

elder wigeon
#

None use it on its own

#

I'd never macro it in with spear because I like to aim my spear with the tooltip

frank knoll
#

I can't seem to macro it with my spear anyways

grand scaffold
#

probably making the macro wrong

undone pumice
#

showtooltip
/cast [@blazing oasissor]Spear of Bastion
/use [@blazing oasissor] 13/14

#

who is @ cur

grand scaffold
#

#showtooltip spear of bastion
/cast [@blazing oasissor] spear of bastion
/cast [@blazing oasissor] cosmis gladiator's resonator

#

i got no clue

frank knoll
#

Thanks works perfect

grand scaffold
#

😄

undone pumice
#

so howa bout like

#

a noob macro but instead of bursts its defensives

#

how hard does that fuck you over

fickle forge
#

Big

#

Don't wanna overcommit defensives

undone pumice
#

u dont wanna overcommit anything

#

i saw my brother using one and i asked him wtf he was doing

raw summit
#

Maaaaybe BM + Rally

#

Rest is a hard no

#

Imo