they trap healer
#pvp
spice hornet
wary frigate
this has been my feeling since they mega nerfed chaos bolts. destro's identity was the 1 shot spec with big casts that you had to interrupt or line, then every other class got just as big (or bigger) buttons that are either faster casting or insta cast. lol
spice hornet
pet stun you
throw double bombs on healer
into disc silence
into hoj
into horse knock
undone pumice
ive been
bombaclatzed so many times already
triple bomba hit me for like 3/4 of my hp
finite fox
Is bomb physical dam?
wet scarab
you mean the resonator?
it's cosmic damage
there's another trinket to neutralize it lol
finite fox
Cosmic damage lol what school does that fit into
wet scarab
none really just what NPCs in zereth mortis do
nimble jasper
its magic psure
silver stone
nimble jasper
resonator kinda broken
if it goes more than 1 month without a nerf well
expected to get bent by every rmx
hasty fractal
So how are people finding arena so far? I did my first S3 arena today, 3s, three different comps, the best comp I played with was arms/enh/priest but it was BRUTAL. Barely 30% win rate. Went 13-31... Found hunters are absurd. Still can't believe warriors got pvp nerfs, but hunters got none. There were no easy wins. Went up and lost against arms/DK/heals a number of times, that seems pretty strong. Ok I was the only full duelist geared on my team, and it seemed every other team was full duelist. This has been the roughest rated pvp I've done this xpack. Hopefully it's just because on day 2 I'm just swimming in glad meta teams still.
nimble jasper
its mostly the actual players q’ing day 1
full quiver
we were only like 1900-2k mmr
nimble jasper
game should adjust you to your proper mmr
full quiver
but went 13-3 and it felt like 80% of the teams were brand new players
just spear and grenade lol
nimble jasper
friend q’ed some rmp yday and said it was just
win 80% of games in opener with nades
or by second drs
spice hornet
So how are people finding arena so far? I did my first S3 arena today, 3s, three...
arms feels a bit weak right now but hopefully gets beter with more gear as season progresses, but ye its sad that rm hpriest and jungle went untouched and any of the comps that had a chance into them were nerfed with the recent nerfs
just hardstuck 2k-2.1k now
shouldnt havetaken a break yesterday before the mmr hotfix went through
full quiver
at what point did they "hotfix mmr"
cause we played 630pct and it didn't seem fixed lol
craggy socket
How was I was 2100+ last season and now I cant get 1600 lol
I am literally 23 wins for 68 games at fucking 1600
where the fuck can i find actual partners?
this game fucking blows playing in lfg im sick and tired of it
nimble jasper
welcome to inflation @craggy socket
finite fox
Lmao
finite fox
It will rise again
nimble jasper
yes
finite fox
Just gotta get through before the boosters reappear
nimble jasper
Just gotta get through before the boosters reappear
barely saw boosters last season
craggy socket
I am decent player but how can you do ANYTHING playing 5-9 games with people for everyone to flame and leave
do I have to just require discord in lfg?
where can I find someone to actually play games with instead of 5-9 games everyone flames and ignores....like how, im begging for partners for fuck sae
nimble jasper
idk i dont q with lfg
nimble jasper
i queued some week 1 3s first week of last season
craggy socket
the game sucks balls without friends
plain wing
yep
nimble jasper
and won like 75% of games in opener
craggy socket
and in my group of friends im the 4th man out it sucks ass
craggy socket
I just have to suffer in LFG? My rate ratio is under 30%
craggy socket
Well arnt good players looking at that?
nimble jasper
then concern yourself with w/l
craggy socket
Idk how to improve without playing consistenty with people
nimble jasper
you gotta strugglebus with the pits first generally
craggy socket
like every 10 games its a new player its just so fucked
nimble jasper
my first seas i just queued meleecleave
with my raid friends
and we just won off dmg to 2k
craggy socket
i dont have raid friends 😦
The couple friends I have already have a 3s team, im left out.
craggy socket
Just wanted to vent thats all.
lfg = toxic i dont blame new players not wanted to play this mess
nimble jasper
best thing to do is q with friends
craggy socket
How do you make friends in this game
spice hornet
ya i met someone on a wow cata private server in 10th grade
ended up meeting him irl
like in 2019
since he lives like an hour away
nimble jasper
lmao
full quiver
i got like 4-5 gamer buddies i'm inviting to my wedding
that i've known for like 15years lol
manic patio
Has anyone been playing around with the pvp bomb trinket? Idk if it's worth or not but could be sick with Kyrian spear into bomb
wet scarab
I queued until rival 2 or so with LFGs, ended up befriending 2 healers, a disc priest and MW of all things, and just play with them all the time
hundreds of games and you'll eventually find someone you gel with attitude wise
that's as important as their skill level
quasi zephyr
Is fury making a stance this season or nah
steep inlet
nobody knows until sets
plush bolt
is there a WA that tells you if a priest uses res after anger lego cloak
echo anvil
Im seeing loads of videos of people saying venthyr is still viable (im 3s) assume in 2s right?
spice hornet
Has anyone been playing around with the pvp bomb trinket? Idk if it's worth or n...
this is what everyone is doing
along with rmp
Can't even really bomb into rmp because they have much more reliable way to lock you down and triple resonator you
and you're just dead by the time you can finally get a clean go
comp is so broken rn
manic patio
this is what everyone is doing
ok ty I'll def grab the trinket then
nimble jasper
Im seeing loads of videos of people saying venthyr is still viable (im 3s) assum...
not sure who is selling you this
eager oracle
Apparently this just happened to someone in the DK disc
This looks pretty broken…. Not sure if I want to play uhdk or meme with kyrian spear trinket now
manic patio
should I switch all my other side stat gems into vers gems now that the trinket bonus has changed?
eager oracle
Y’all need to chill by the weekend I won’t have time to game until then
plain wing
i havent played with kyrian much. spear seems hard to use
May just stay Necro.... feel too smooth brain for big spear plays
winter nymph
nimble jasper
when was the last time battlelord was meta
eager oracle
Playing spear is really just knowing what classes can get out of it and realizing there is a slight delay when throwing it
Not much but it’s not instant so you can scuff it sometimes
gaunt rover
mhmmm
echo anvil
Anyone able to help with a good opener for 3s, War/DH/Druid
plain wing
@eager oracle so many diff ways you can use it, for peeling, to prevent people from runing, for damage etc.... also never know when to use it around storm bolt, or how to stagger those 2 abilities etc
Idk just seems like a high skill ceiling
what soulbind do yall run for kyrian
eager oracle
<@!480588766046715904> so many diff ways you can use it, for peeling, to prevent...
True, I thought you just meant difficult in regards to hitting your spear
nimble jasper
its a well designed ability imo
plain wing
Intimidating
Like if you use spear for opener and damage , how do you position storm bolt? And with warrior being squishier i could foresee havinf to use it to people more often, right?
echo anvil
Im getting targeted and smashed up big time 😦
elder wigeon
Yup warrior is squishy
languid spruce
Im getting targeted and smashed up big time 😦
Yeah, I played for about 3 hours last night and it was fairly brutal.
spice hornet
yeh its bulllshit they didnt touch hunter dmg and fire mage/sub dmg
steel cloak
what is top warrior pvp spec is it back to fury?
lucid walrus
wdym "back to"
steel cloak
needs to be fury
lucid walrus
nimble jasper
never been fury
elder wigeon
It won’t be fury
plain wing
@nimble jasper so do you ever look at like omnibar, see their cd's are coming back up soon, and think ahead and preplan / save your spear to peal their go completely?
full quiver
Lol
elder wigeon
I don't think I'd ever do that
brittle torrent
haha
btw
whats gonna be best second legendary as kyrian warr with the covenant one now coming out
raw summit
my omnibar shows me if they have disarm
if they do i dont chimp my avatar and spear behind my wb
brittle torrent
ya just scare them with warbreaker andwatch them disarm insta ;D
so enduring blow gonna be the banger
is tier set gonna be any good for arms though
or we going full pvp
sharp meteor
what is top warrior pvp spec is it back to fury?
wym back to fury
fury is more appealing now
but arms is probably still better
at least until tier
steel cloak
i missed i think it was last expansion fury meta
sharp meteor
in 2s during s1 because of silly self healing with a prot warr or something it was dece ya
steel cloak
what do you mean till tier
sharp meteor
tier bonuses and glory might be super cool for necro fury
spice burrow
they fixed that back in late 9.1
spice hornet
i thought it was with 9.2
spice burrow
maybe it was 9.1.5 but i remember seeing article on this ages ago
spice hornet
hmm i was palying everyday til patch and odnt recall that seeing that interaction
spice burrow
huh weird i thought it was done ages ago maybe it was a different interaction
i am thinking of
undone pumice
i love when casters try to justify " oh u can just kick me" like u cant fake cast or usr an instacast or protected cast, meanwhile we get hard countered by disarm eith 0 counterplay
brittle torrent
if Enduring Blow gonna be 2nd Bis Legendary do we go waist or head since covenant one gonna initially take waist till we get revered
plain wing
@brittle torrent if you do your dailies and world quests you'll be revered by the time we unlock unity
nimble jasper
you unlock unity memory same time
plain wing
so you can craft on any slot
nimble jasper
unless you’rr slacking
elder wigeon
I'm pretty confident you'll want enduring blow on waist and unity on ring
three reasons, head is a tier slot, and waist isn't, having unity on ring lets you double stack haste or crit rings and gives you two sockets
brittle torrent
okay so as arms we want the tier set for pvp
undone pumice
do we
brittle torrent
and I want to ask coming from Prot PvE no legendary for arms kyrian yet what would you suggest I buy, lvl 4 or lvl 3 since no point blowing gold on korthrites nw
jaunty furnace
Did they reset mmr yet? why am I still fighting 1900 teams at 0 cr
plain wing
obviously it doesnt translate perfectly into pvp, but the arms 2/4 pc bonus are considered to be one of the weaker ones damage wise when looking at all the classes/specs
brittle torrent
obviously it doesnt translate perfectly into pvp, but the arms 2/4 pc bonus are ...
so hope for buffs from blizz down the patch line
brittle torrent
and I want to ask coming from Prot PvE no legendary for arms kyrian yet what wou...
do I buy elysian might first for nw or go enduring blow on waist and wait for unity
plain wing
I wouldnt buy EM - since you'll get it with Unity
actally its up to you
ez to farm the currencies these days
especially if you plan on pvping for the next month or so
nimble jasper
Did they reset mmr yet? why am I still fighting 1900 teams at 0 cr
placements
first 10 games swin wildly in mmr to determine where you belong
sometimes you get 2.2 teams sometimes you get 1k teams
elder wigeon
yes we want the tier set lol
wet scarab
do I buy elysian might first for nw or go enduring blow on waist and wait for un...
Honestly depending on your server if it’s cheap or you have the cash just craft it and play
elder wigeon
it's a lot of damage to be missing out on
wet scarab
Like I have different versions of EM and EB for raid and pvp, it’s all that cheap
lucid walrus
stats are cool but the diff between like an r5/6 is pretty small yeah?
manic patio
has prot warrior been nerfed in pvp yet? it's gonna be shield slamming so hard with tier set yeah?
lucid walrus
got aura buffed by 6% actually
wet scarab
Yup
lucid walrus
don’t ask me how that works
wet scarab
stats are cool but the diff between like an r5/6 is pretty small yeah?
There isn’t much of a difference no but if the price doesn’t matter I’d just go ahead with it
lucid walrus
yeah for sure
brittle torrent
So I got the mats to make lvl 4's but wondering if worth it to take them to 6s while waiting for lvl 7s since gotta blow 30k on korthrite crystals then but if level 4 is good enough then 😛
spice hornet
they rlly gotta nerf hpriest
wet scarab
So I got the mats to make lvl 4's but wondering if worth it to take them to 6s w...
Level 4 is fine it’s the 8 sec spear that matters
vapid yoke
Is the Fastidious Resolve trinket worth a damn?
nimble jasper
possibly if human
wet scarab
Hpriests are just ludicrous
Every heal is like jesus is personally intervening
To stop the zug
spice hornet
ye q'ing isnt fun right
now
its now jsut everyone trying to cheese with the trinket
and of course the class with the easiest time and multiple solid times to use it is rogue
6 sec kidney every 20 sec
steel cloak
is necro still good for arms
spice hornet
yeah but youll be at a disadvantage because everyone is cheesing bomb trinket and warrior can only reliablyt use it as spear or being with static field totem man
plain wing
Can reliably land it with stormbolt too @spice hornet
spice hornet
almost everyone is an orc
plain wing
Fair
But then afain the trinket is gonna get nerfed most likely
Response has well…. Not been positive to say the least
spice hornet
hmmm im surpirsed they ahvent nerfed it yet
cause when the vanq hammer buff came in 9.1.5 they fixed it later that evening
in pvp
nimble jasper
tbh
spice hornet
so they obviously see what's going on
plain wing
Yea prolly wait till reset
spice hornet
so they might not fixi t
nimble jasper
if they hit resonator
but not aegis
this season might become damp as shit
lmao
aegis is super gross too
plain wing
They have other priorities atm… raid tuning is an absolute disaster atm. Like super super bad. Wouldnt be surprised if the reason it hasnt been fixed yet is because of bandwidth issues
Id expect a nerf either next week (coincide with post heroic week tuning) or the week after
But who knows
nimble jasper
aegis being usable in stuns is busted af
steel cloak
yeah but youll be at a disadvantage because everyone is cheesing bomb trinket an...
then do i go crit with with them?
spice hornet
up to you, a miux of both is what most people were doing as nl,
steel cloak
ok
nimble jasper
also depends what content you do
kyrian is just better in 2s
tbh
and with casters in 3s
spice hornet
They need that
sharp meteor
2s is so awful rn actually LMAO
nimble jasper
with nades
sharp meteor
having 10x more fun throwing my body at solo shuffle until 3s partners are on
spice hornet
they have too many win conditions
now
errr
they can run resonator, bust opener with kidney smoke bomb
on whoever can't immunity
and then kill that person next go 100-0 one dance
nimble jasper
yeah i said thst
spice hornet
sad
near delta
Double bombed on sap is troll af I hate it lol
wet scarab
I really wonder often about the types of people who like to play as RM
As in what is fun about this dipshit playstyle where everything is the same and you run away if the rng happens to not favor you
nimble jasper
idk
I’d q a few and get bored
cuz its not hard if your mage is remotely good
I imagine rn you just win second go cuz of resonators
wet scarab
It’s not about it being easy or hard, it’s about it being the same thing every match
wet scarab
having 10x more fun throwing my body at solo shuffle until 3s partners are on
I wish it had its own ladder with like cosmetic rewards or a mount
nimble jasper
the comp actually only feels “complex” if you’re playing with like a 1600 mage
play with a good mage and you just win so free
Personally I won’t queue it with any mage that hasn’t been at least 2.4
its just extra stress for no reason playing with rat mages
rps is way more fun of a comp but it just gets run over by cleaves
sharp meteor
I wish it had its own ladder with like cosmetic rewards or a mount
it probably will eventually
fair sequoia
Haven’t got the new pvp trinket yet. Any looking good?
Looking to take pvp serious this season
elder wigeon
overtuned doesn't describe it well enough
wet scarab
anyone else constantly the first target in solo shuffle?
distant dagger
your a warrior
elder wigeon
Warriors are squishy get used to it boys
lean burrow
spice hornet
does anyone feel ret/war is good into jungle anymore since the d stance nerfs
they just train you
and it hurts even more than before
wet scarab
did they buff feral or something?
tired portal
aegis being usable in stuns is busted af
is that a nerf to rmp then?
sharp meteor
did they buff feral or something?
nerfs to most arms healers
nerf to dstance
just hard to deal with joongle doing 8k dps to your face
elder wigeon
aegis being usable in stuns is busted af
that's cap
limber pond
you guys think is worth to buy any item for now or just wait for sword?
elder wigeon
wait until sword
robust hearth
which of the new trinekts do we actually want for arms/fury?
full quiver
lol i just get farmed by everything now
finite fox
Ran into one warrior on my rogue tonight easiest win of the evening
Just slap him the whole time
7 sec kidney + bomb + burst = free win
full quiver
Least fun I've ever had on war
wet scarab
2s is actually manageable in 3s I just blow up getting focused
Very sad state of affairs
elder wigeon
managable until you run into a sin rogue or survival hunter
nimble jasper
are people not playing outlaw
elder wigeon
nessper does
elder wigeon
assassination is brain dead
that's why
stun off cd and maintain full dots and pve
do unhealable damage and collect pts
nimble jasper
yeah just funny everytime i do outlaw vs sin rogs in 2s
win so one sidedly
guy goes healer gets disarmed into gouge on his entire shiv
undone pumice
kindred swan
Does the first sigil trinket work in pvp?
sharp meteor
is that a pve thing
kindred swan
Yeah. Raid trinket that increases vers by 1174 for 20 seconds and resets covenant ability.
sharp meteor
possibly
undone pumice
wtf
kindred swan
I got that trinket from my timewalking cache lol. Was curious how it would perform in pvp. Has a 5 minute cooldown though.
kindred swan
The First Sigil - Item - 9.2.0 PTR
raw summit
Yes
undone pumice
prob before mmr fix
plain wing
holy shit
undone pumice
definitely before mmr fix
plain wing
mmr fix?
thats fucking wild theres already people at 2400 and its the 2nd day of the patch
holy fuckkkk
plain wing
is that normal?
undone pumice
lets go man
plain wing
idk i was doing bg's as kyrian and itt was like having to relearn a whole class
back to complete tunneling and just not knowing what the fuck to do
was rough
havent played it at all really....
undone pumice
kyrian?
plain wing
Yea
undone pumice
its not that different honestly the main thing is not having ur spear consumed by walls
and realizing u dont have a 30k shield out of the gates
plain wing
yea idk
Like i was just tunneling hard
and i feel like i just get cc'd mid spear
or get blown up idk
like hunters just do their disengage shit
plain wing
and i never know how to use it relative to stormbolt etc..... Just tunneling super hard.
Im just doing bg's so far
undone pumice
yeah i havent done much arena either nobody been online
plain wing
But yea, tunneling so hard I just panic react instead of looking to see what i have up etc. Pretty rough start with kyrian experience
undone pumice
and in bgs its just been weirdchamp
raw summit
Necro unhinged or em 
plain wing
Feel back to square one..... completely clueless
undone pumice
either im invincible with 3 pocket healers or im getting s3 warrior experience with 10/20 dstance
raw summit
Kyr bomber good, yea?
undone pumice
yes
plain wing
i wish I wasnt tunneling so fucking hard fuck
its the worst experience just not knowing what the fuck imd oing in a bg
undone pumice
because EM guarantees it with 6sec i think
plain wing
how do yall use stun in regards to spear
undone pumice
uhh idk usually to keep killtarget and cc an offtarget
plain wing
i mean even then i just tunnel so hard with spear......
like im neglecting bladestorm while spear is up
to avoid cc and stuns
etc
just fucking tunnel vision with spear
plain wing
but i had it down as Necro
felt aware and more in control
now its like ive never played the class
undone pumice
bg is fuj because u meet undergeared plebians
go into the crowd
spear bladesotrm chances are half of them die
undone pumice
melee bubble
when the enemy has more than
2 paladins in bg
i get osteoporosis
undone pumice
3+ of any class is aids
raw summit
Yea no
undone pumice
i go bg with sharpen, commander and DS
undone pumice
like
ion want utility i dont want dmg just tankiness in bg
battlemaster, rally, third wind
instant full heal
undone pumice
tru
give us stun charge
or make chall shout an aoe stun like dh chaos nova or whatever
undone pumice
ok so
rend and bolt baseline
replace storm bolt talent with furious slash for fury, for arms it becomes heroic strike
i just want furious slash back for fury i would play it
fuck onslaight
simple rock
hey guys is there an auto attack bug rn or am I crazy
sometimes my auto attack takes forever
as if it misses a swing
undone pumice
prob not in range i guess
undone pumice
no idra
clear ibex
Is solo shuffling providing tons of honor ?
idle oxide
Public consensus right now - Havoc or Arms - which one is better for:
2v2?
3v3?
RBG?
elder wigeon
it's the 3rd day of the season, no double lego or tier sets yet really aside from some raiders who got lucky, too soon to say
in 2v2 I'm confident that warrior and dh are about equal and in 3's there's about the same as well, warrior got nerfed pretty damn hard with the d-stance change
undone pumice
rbg it is definitely havoc for the insane flag carrying imo, however arms can be a great coordinator with the 50% hreduction
fickle forge
Play warrior and you get to retain your lifts 😎 👍
finite fox
are people not playing outlaw
I’m outlaw
cold totem
I guess I have to kite him more if they are playing with a rshaman
elder wigeon
tips, don't stack with your healer ever, slow the dh for your healer as much as possible, disarming/kicking eye beams are really important
thick reef
Anybody here read any information on how the set pieces work for people who dont pve? You can get a token from vault which you can get a set piece from, I understand that bit, but you can also convert S3 PVP gear into a setitem at some point. But then your stuck at that item rating right? If you go up a PVP tier, you can upgrade everything, but how do you upgrade a traded tier item?
elder wigeon
No you can upgrade tier set pieces
cold totem
tips, don't stack with your healer ever, slow the dh for your healer as much as ...
I try but its too much
#show Spear of Bastion /cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion /cast Spear of Bastion /cast [@cursor] Cosmic Gladiator's Resonator /use Cosmic Gladiator's Resonator
elder wigeon
just gotta do better
it's very possible to beat DH's in 2's, it's hard but can be done
elder wigeon
Anybody here read any information on how the set pieces work for people who dont...
when you convert a pvp piece into a tier piece it retains its item level and can be upgraded, same with tier set pieces obtained from the vault from pvp
tired portal
when you convert a pvp piece into a tier piece it retains its item level and can...
sweet, fuck raiding then
thick reef
No you can upgrade tier set pieces
So you can still use honor to upgrade when you have reached a higher rating treshhold? And do the set pieces also gain the +13 ilvl in pvp?
thick reef
raiders will have their tier set first unfortunately
Yeah, thats bound to be the cases for a few weeks.... Gonna suck
elder wigeon
idk about the last part, but I know for a fact it can be upgraded
cold totem
it's very possible to beat DH's in 2's, it's hard but can be done
alright i keep learning but its hard
Do you have any recording?
elder wigeon
I don't record 2's but I can tomorrow
thick reef
Cool, thats already better then I expected it to be then. Thanks bruh
elder wigeon
yeah np
cold totem
Alright thanks mate
lucid walrus
alright i keep learning but its hard
depends a lot on what you play with
rsham and rdruid get cranked like anybody else when the dh gets uptime but roots help a ton. my shaman typically just runs laps around the pillar with dh slowed
cold totem
I was playing with disc priest
I think I need to use dstance more when he's on metamorp
tired portal
think 30 sec for meta and 20 sec for wings
undone pumice
yeah but
paladins randomly get 8 seconds of wings sometimes
so i just
die
and both of them have autism healing how do i fight that shit
not to mention melee bubble + normal bubble + loh
tired portal
yeh ret and dh healing definitely feels better than our d stance now
undone pumice
like warrior seems to be in a bad spot right now
tired portal
was watching mes' stream and he said he thinks dh might be the new war (but that could have been just in reference to TSG)
tired portal
still no one will really know till max conduits and double legendaries and tier sets are out
elder wigeon
arms is going to be A- tier once all is said and done, pretty confident in that
lucid walrus
it's acceptable considering S status was around for about a year and a half
elder wigeon
p much
lucid walrus
doesn't make it suck less. arguably makes it feel worse by contrast
undone pumice
like one nerf in the wrong place just dropping a vlass like that is crazy
lucid walrus
dks saw something similar with that infamous death strike nerf
that's about the only parallel that comes to mind
undone pumice
yeah but dks are genuinely boring to play and fight
i jump away, ah nooe i got gripped, and im permaslowed by 70%
and he just lets his pets eat my ass while running
tired portal
i hate that it makes pressing d stance at the right time feel less rewarding
elder wigeon
good fucking riddance
undone pumice
dstance should be 10/10 or removed fron the game
elder wigeon
I'm probably going to stop running d stance here pretty soon, it genuinely just feels like a negative to even press you lose more pressure than you remove
undone pumice
i havent run dstance since patch
elder wigeon
if you're forced into d-stance you do even less than the 20% "less" you did last patch because you can't afford to stay offensive
if you're in d-stance you're still fighting for your life and can't do any damage anyways
lucid walrus
yeah but dks are genuinely boring to play and fight
dks will sob over the state of their class but their meta is genuinely one of the worst when it's a thing
dks are to melee as warlocks are to casters
undone pumice
are there ANY comps where we can even remotely try to use second wind because no dots/displacements to stop pillaring
elder wigeon
No
lucid walrus
nope
elder wigeon
second wind is beyond dead
lucid walrus
everything you'll ever play into is gonna have a dot
scratching my head trying to think of a healer that doesn't or wouldn't dot you
undone pumice
so just go bounding
lucid walrus
hpal i guess but that leaves 2 dps. point is you'll never get value out of SW
undone pumice
time for bounding
tired portal
if you're forced into d-stance you do even less than the 20% "less" you did last...
yeh leaping on their cooldowns seems better
steep inlet
I'm probably going to stop running d stance here pretty soon, it genuinely just ...
ofc
elder wigeon
down real bad
tired portal
kind of sucks that the nerf takes away stance dancing though
undone pumice
stance dancing should be baseline for all specs imo
tired portal
or whatever little we had left of it
undone pumice
warrior should have stances again
bstance, dstance, bstance
or gladiator stance idk what its called
lucid walrus
gladiator & berserker were diff things yeah
though i don't think they ever coexisted
lucid walrus
mm
undone pumice
fuck was glad stance
undone pumice
what did that do
lucid walrus
damage
undone pumice
bombaclatz?
ah yeah bomberclartz prot nuking
i remembef pilav videos where he got 1 shitted by prot warriors
tired portal
most wars on murlok.io still running dstance tho
https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/3v3#talents
lucid walrus
idk what mastery did for prot back then
tough compass
@tired portal Murloc doesnt track if they change it in game, its data from when they logg off
just fyi
tired portal
<@!457131662589952001> Murloc doesnt track if they change it in game, its data ...
ok cheers
finite fox
idk what mastery did for prot back then
Increased crit block chance and damage of a few abilities I think
finite fox
the comically large AP%
Pretty sure during this time mastery didn’t increase attack power yet it was “bonus armor” that gave attack power
That was the new weird tank stat
lucid walrus
article i pulled this from was wod-era but you could be right
finite fox
Yea I think they changed it mid expansion
lucid walrus
ah
finite fox
They got upsetti when gladiator stance war did better dam than fury and arms
And nerfed it into the ground
elder wigeon
I'm cool with a tank spec in arena if it's actually not that tanky and performs more like a dps than anything
but then it's not a tank, so rip spec identity
elder wigeon
prot pally was a menace in s1
elder wigeon
triple bomb triple bubble
undone pumice
undone pumice
i cant wait to find some chinese RMP who just started their eu climb and get kyiv pov
undone pumice
impending victory fury is
i remember i saw a legit
15 minute battle between a dh and a fury warrior
in the end the fury won
grand scaffold
you guys still think arms is better>
grand scaffold
wdym
paper heath
Hey guys. Just picking back up my warrior alt and wanted to know if Necrolord or Kyrian seems to become the play in this patch? With double leggo apparently favouring Kyrian
grand scaffold
Hey guys. Just picking back up my warrior alt and wanted to know if Necrolord or...
what spec you playing?
paper heath
Arms
paper heath
Alright thanks ^^
grand scaffold
dont craft elysian might at high lvls tho
paper heath
Just 235 then
pale talon
so how much did we suffer in the nerfs as arms?
pale talon
just me being shit i guess
grand scaffold
smexxin playing fury tho
i dont know if arms is still the dominant spec
so dont worry if you having a rough time as arms
grand scaffold
haha
nah
its probably just a few things
like picking the wrong target
miss timing cd's
i wouldnt expect that much to go that wrong
tired portal
rough? It feel like i cant kill anything
lots of other classes got buffs while we got nerfed, but what arms is like this season can't really be seen until we all have double leggos, max conduits,tiersets
pale talon
Feel like I getting caught in playing def, can't create goes, picking wrong targets, etc
pale talon
necro
pale talon
tried controlling warr, but the cc is not handable
grand scaffold
ok
pale talon
so I guess I should train druid?
grand scaffold
well
not exactly
you wanna use a bit of dmg on the warr in the beginning so the rdru hots him
during your cd's
smack the rdru
during a stun
rdru with the nerf to frenzy regen is very squishy
any other comps you struggling against?
pale talon
Ok, so switching, taking advantage of the gcds to stack hots
grand scaffold
^
pale talon
2s
just started pvping last season
so I know there's alot to learn
I mean I played a game against a retri healer and I disarmed, feared, stunned and still he had 5s left on wings ... lol
sage raptor
Delete DH, thank you.
pale talon
Delete DH, thank you.
😆
pale talon
who you focusing in that comp
Really dont know, feels like all I do don't work
idle oxide
DH now feels a lot like WW did at a stage. And WW just rushed your healer.
I read on here back then that the WW must be the kill target, as he will kill your healer before you kill his.
So I'd say try to do same, sit the DH. Slow him and pray that your healer knows how to hug them pillars and to not run between pillars. UBC will destroy them if they do.
You should win on dmg then if the DH chases - bit of cleave on you while you smash his brain in.
Thats my best guess on how to beat DH teams atm. And there are a lot of them...
grand scaffold
Really dont know, feels like all I do don't work
just focus the ret there
another thing you could try to do
is bladestorm
and bait the dh blur
if he uses blur
focus him after
if he doesnt use blur
attack the ret
tawny elm
how should i spend my first conquest? save up or buy bit by bit?
pale talon
attack the ret
thanks
tired portal
how should i spend my first conquest? save up or buy bit by bit?
save for weapon unless you get weapon in vault
tawny elm
save for weapon unless you get weapon in vault
ty 🙂
pale talon
yes I would
paper heath
Hmm still unsure as to if I should go Kyrian or Necrolord on my warrior. Gonna be playing ret/warr and turbo a lot so both covenants are good but lvling both sounds so tedious to do haha
scarlet barn
Well zereth mortis gives lot of renown
obsidian dew
Hmm still unsure as to if I should go Kyrian or Necrolord on my warrior. Gonna b...
I also have this question, I got both at 80. I'll say I like necro way more because I enjoy a little more supporty playstyle and the shield helps survive opens. I am not an amazing pvper though
scarlet barn
So shouldnt be problem
obsidian dew
And as a followup to @paper heath , if we were to choose necro, do we favor haste over crit and use Enduring Blow?
paper heath
My friends tell me Kyrian is broken with the new trinket, but doesn't Stormbolt also just do the trick? 4 second stun is more than enough
obsidian dew
My friends tell me Kyrian is broken with the new trinket, but doesn't Stormbolt ...
The bomb trinket?
paper heath
Ye
grand scaffold
em spear is 8 seconds
undone pumice
its reduced in pvp no?
paper heath
It's still doable with just storm bolt
Bomb goes off after 4 seconds, storm bolt lasts 4 seconds
So just bomb then storm bolt
undone pumice
u need to be like very fast
paper heath
Besides the Resonator isn't on gcd so you can literally place the bomb and stormbolt in the same gcd
I like necro more because it's safer
obsidian dew
Wowhead says you can opt for haste over crit up to 20%, what are the feelings on that? It's ideal for me since I can use haste/vers gear when I tank as well
pale talon
from what I've read u go for haste as necro, but crit for kyr
obsidian dew
Also is necro as viable in RBG? I play that mostly, less arena
pale talon
cant say, dont listen on me im the worst
undone pumice
kyrian prob better
grand scaffold
Besides the Resonator isn't on gcd so you can literally place the bomb and storm...
just macro kyrian spear and resonator
paper heath
Does that work?
grand scaffold
thats what im doing
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor]Spear of Bastion
/use [@cursor]cosmic gladiator's resonator
best part is
it puts resonator at the center of spear
paper heath
Nice alright thank you
vague crater
guys playing lock/pala/war with friends, what you think would be the best spec to go for the lock?
grand scaffold
demo
very tanky lock spec
destro a bit meh
if the lock is not skilled its just gonna be locked down the entire game
and deathbolt for affy is nerfed
river walrus
do you guys know when will tier sets and double leggo be avaiable?
grand scaffold
chapter 7 for double leggo
river walrus
And you only need to grind it once on your main, right? I don`t have the will power to do that on my alts
grand scaffold
tbh idk
hasty fractal
OMFG there is NOTHING that triggers me more in this fucking game than when I'm doing random bgs on my hunter and there are 2 warriors on my team and THEY DO NOT USE BATTLESHOUT, not even for themselves. GAH
vital crane
what spec/cov etc do i play
vital crane
signet for fury?
vital crane
do u also use any of the new pvp trinkets
sand halo
hey guys , what would be the perfect pvp talent for rbgs ? so far im runing Storm of Destruction , Sharpen Blade and War banner
im playing kyrian as well maybe there is better metta atm ?
grand scaffold
np
leaden fern
returned after a loooong break, I made the change from vynthyr to kyrian, but didnt realise I should have made the kyrian legendary and went ahead and made the enduring blow one. How much have I dun goofed?
leaden fern
why do they have to recraft?
undone pumice
because tge covenant legendary isnt converted into unity
its technically a diff legendary
leaden fern
so I shouldnt craft it until I get the unity item?
the new system is kinda confusing me ^^
spice hornet
you can make multiple legos
but for kyrian when double lego comes out, people are doing to make it on ring most likely, and then the enduring blow on belt
because the other enduring blow option is helm which is a tier peice
formal summit
because the other enduring blow option is helm which is a tier peice
You can still get 4 set without the helm tho
formal summit
Don’t we get the ability to craft tier set around week 7?
glossy island
Is it possible to macro both bomb and kyrian spear together
formal summit
Is it possible to macro both bomb and kyrian spear together
Yea
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] spear of bastion
/use [@cursor] 13
brittle torrent
Yea
Hey guys any pvp tips as kyrian arms warrior? Ya, click this macro and watch shit go GG 😛
I need to get this trink damn haha
dark leaf
Does Warbringer root trigger Dreamweavers 90% slow?
finite fox
Bomb not being on the gcd is actually wild
undone pumice
dreamweavers who
dark leaf
The soulbind trait, "When your roots, stuns, or incaps expire, your targets mvoement speed is reduced by 90% for 2 seconds"
undone pumice
is that a nightfae?
dark leaf
I'm too old to hit spears and necro is boring
undone pumice
nightfae is only good for cheese
dark leaf
I play Panda, I live for cheese
undone pumice
bursting fury almost 1 shots with AA
but i would imagine warbringer triggers dreamweaver slow
go test it :D
dark leaf
Just turned on WM and headed to Zereth to test, I'll report back lol
undone pumice
that festure seems nasty on mages tho
get kited like a dirty dog as any low-med mobility class
dark leaf
So it works, but it decays rapidly... Drops from 90% slow to unnoticeable in less than half a second. Bummer
Might be fun with double charge warbringer, but even more cheese
dark leaf
Another fun cheese, Dreamweaver seed doesn't count as a loss in Solo Shuffle. Got trained game 1 on my noob warrior, procced seed, ended up winning, wasn't targeted the next 5 matches lol
undone pumice
kekw
dark leaf
The debuff doesn't clear though so you'll only get 1 free proc per shuffle match
spice hornet
You can still get 4 set without the helm tho
yes but i think the helm has vers
not all tier piece have vers
formal summit
Aah that’s good to know
spice hornet
so dogshit how hard rmx is abusing resonators rn
undone pumice
ok so
could warrior not abuse this really hard alone even as necro
fear
bomb
stun
ez
spice hornet
no
severe skiff
Piercing howl before you spear or bolt, either work for us slow brains
spice hornet
its not reliable
whereas rogue mage alone has a 6 sec undispel stun on a 20 sec cd
and then you end up trading fear which would save you later
rogue mage can just bust opener aloen to get a trinket and then kidney resonator the guy who trinketed
undone pumice
rogue mage hard counters melee cleaves and warrior i get it
spice hornet
you have to go rogue
and stop him from getting a restealth
but atm with resonators its pretty much unbeatable unless you play cracked as fuck
near delta
New trinket btw that blizzard allows xD
People have to die
spice hornet
ya so if he had the hp it wouldve hti a 80k or w/e
undone pumice
no
near delta
I landed a 55k one last night on a ret. Honestly felt bad
spice hornet
ohh the overkill is the other way
nimble jasper
I landed a 55k one last night on a ret. Honestly felt bad
nah guy just got to be on the other end
of the oneshot
near delta
My healer took a 50k later so yeah
nimble jasper
rets complaining about being oneshot
near delta
At least it's not a damp meta
nimble jasper
is so ironic
raw summit
agree
nimble jasper
but idk they prob nerf resonator and dont touch aegis
aegis being over a 40k magic absorb usable in stuns is cringe
as shit
sharp meteor
inject it into my veins
sharp meteor
i want the fire mage players to be in shambles
nimble jasper
they both need a nerf tbh
near delta
Fuck them rmps
nimble jasper
that just blocks all class burst tbh
besides warrior
xd
since every class even melee does at least half their dmg as magic nowadays
pretty stupid
undone pumice
what happened there
sharp meteor
although i guess step has been there since tbc
undone pumice
sharp meteor
class fantasy
nimble jasper
they replaced find weakness
sharp meteor
spec fantasy
nimble jasper
with extra shadow damage
well find weakness is still in the game but
its way weaker
undone pumice
rogue class fantasy is a sneaky shanker not a shadow magic backstabber
undone pumice
yooo
near delta
Holy shit
nimble jasper
everyone prob takes it next week
undone pumice
aegis always better vs anyone except warrior right
undone pumice
resonator is cosmic dmg right
nimble jasper
yes
undone pumice
im ahead of the meta
near delta
Turbo S++ comp since no magic damm
undone pumice
or fury
undone pumice
shadow?
undone pumice
enh is physical yeah?
nimble jasper
is windfury not
nimble jasper
back in mop ascendance was so cringe xd
near delta
Actually def not wolves
undone pumice
raw summit
ascend still goes through ur armor
undone pumice
still best reddit post ive seen to date