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Barbarian+leaper Lego fury is the most fun Iโve had in regular BGs in a while
240 yards of mobility + charge+intervene
Yeah, I remember when I thought that Prot in Legion could really move around.
Warsong Scramble with multiple fury warriors particularly if they're night fae is super funny.
Watching whazz q 2s with meh on 3.3mmr rn and even though they were farming every team, they kept losing to arms/hpriest
Makes my decision to reroll warrior abit easier

what spec is whaazz playing?
Sub
cant wait to get bent by surv
Sub + hpriest
in 2s
yeah I mean you should never beat a warrior team playing sub + healer
whaazz is throwing by not playing outlaw
outlaw
ferals can be pretty hard yeah but it's mainly outlaw and survival that slam dunk us
can beat bm if its not with rdruid
every hunter is a hard counter atm
surv dmg is so unfair
surv control is what's unfair
they have another root too lmao
surv just kinda bullies you
mm is nice if you're still standing .5 seconds after they pop everything
Well as ww i get hard countered by sub/priest, rogue/mage, any hunter/healer, and maybe some more if i remember the rest ๐
hunter/healer is fine as ww imo
you just bang healer
Its just that your goes are too scripted, and pet sac after the bdb nerf is 10 times better
I'd always try to sweep pets on go so they can't sac without trinketing
i usually got petsac cuz hunter players are dog
and waste it on the bait go on them
How do you bait a go as ww though
pop xuen
Your only go is on 1 min cd
Hm could be nice to try
then send an incap sweep with bonedust sef
on druid out of form
once proc acquired
Yeah
Does the frenzied nerf really feel impactful? Haven't queued much in the off-season.
Tranq at 1% then frenzied regen out.
yeah druid can just explode now
gross
imagine when surv does 80% more dmg
if you win vs survival hunters they're trolling
cant wait to be farmed by them tomorrow ๐
LMAO played into a 2800 surv in 2's actually impossible to win
rdruids just can't die until deep dampening super frustrating
Maybe with double leggo
hunter with pouch won't let u get to dampening lmao
Leaper
Can't wait to start farming >:)
no point qing 2s tomorrow if you are higher CR youll just face hunter healer all day so just gonna push main 3s instead
Good time to push as outlaw then
will honor reset tomorrow as well?
no
I know cr resets but I heard your mmr doesnt. Any truth in that ?
I have created ultimate outlaw tmog to farm hunters in 2s as
god i hope there's a fourth season
god that sucks
fantastic work
lmao
is defensive stance still a must take?
Yes
No just play fury and take war paint
probably ya
You spelled prot wrong
I wouldn't touch fury till tier set honestly
Good pvp hotfix nerfs
None touching rogues of course
Just the healers whoโll keep us up in dstance
kekw
Preemptive hunter set bonus nerfs. Sounds like a win to me.
We've devolved to tbc. Nice
just hit them so hard that they can't hit you back 
just get rng and crit every single hit
I don't know what spec/ convenant to play in arena and rbgs this week. I am ready for arms fury and any conv. What are some suggestions?
play as if it's last season, you don't have double legendary or tier sets nor is the gear any better
arms is currently the best and play kyrian where you'd wanna play kyrian and play necrolord where you wanna play necrolord
Yeah I don't feel good about going into this season with the defstance and death sentence nerfs. I ended last season around 2250 in rbgs as kyrian arms. Did some as necro but it was deemed not as useful as my team didn't have any rets. Only got 1800s in 2s and 3s but didn't push arena. Might push arena harder this season.
And how the fuck did hunters not get any ners I don't know :(
the game's just not balanced for 2's and warriors are usually meta, I'd say 95% of the time, if for some reason warriors aren't really there this patch then it just is what it is, warriors had a rough time in cata and sucked hard in season 13, but other than that, they've been pretty good since
I can't really speak to any detail between season 15 and this expansion, but I know in bfa warriors weren't the shit like they've been the last two seasons
No prot nerfs for the tier set yet 
nobody has it yet and abusing it that's why 
I'm still having fun playing arms, we'll see once double leggo and tiers are important
dstance is really shit
wondering if i will keep it
coz u loose too much pressure
for a shitty 10% reduc
Thatโs kinda how you were supposed to use it even pre nerf
y

Every global you spend being in d stance while youโre in no danger whatsoever is wasted dps
Ye but i think just sitting d for noobers like me was too strong
I shouldnt beat in pressure is perma d
When should I disarm enhancement Shaman if they are not using ascension?
why no warrior nerfs 0_0
they nerfed warrior tho
it was
during doomwinds
it means nothing especially with BFA inflation
post s4 arms

^
ye
yeah was cool
dstance u already knows it
yeah i know that
i thought somebody said in the new patch notes
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anybody think they might buff d stane?
stance*
10% feeling trash
No
Instead of giving d stance to fury they made war paint competitive
Bis design

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i miss when each spec had d stance, battle stance, and glad stance
was nice
Imagine trying to learn PvP for the first time and you face ooga booga prot players that do more dps than you and are more tanky than you every game
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lmao
1800 first season isnt bad afaik
im happy with my 1800 first season 
wouldve hated uncomplete elite set
if my first i still like
but holy shit cn was so much better
s3 set is dogwater
but the dk offset from conq vendor
is neat
mounts too
s3 is so weird
except for ksm where its 3>1>2
id just be happy to get one this time around
bfa blue proto is so cool wish i had
i believe too 
uhh undercity plaguebat is bis
i use spectral moose
i have hivemijd tho
bet not a lot of you guys have tge hivemind
tbf its a really secret mount
yall call swift spectral tiger?
i have never seen anyone on the hivemind except me and the people i got it with
main mounts are hivemind, plaguebat, great greytusk, and the preying plagueroc

main for me in mog mount moose and uhh
the bastion hidden one
the silverwing larion
me one day 
i got 35k miles on this here dragon
most of the glad mounts sorta suck
the last actual good pvp mount was back in legion
the RATSTALLION
oh btw
if i get insane rng
who
anyone who pvps
I personally like the season 1 glad mount of shadowlands and you combine it with this seasons mythic raid set 
i like the s3 mount
i use the bajheera threatplates
i use nameplate auras ๐
say what u want bajheeras ui is clean
mine needs work and im not sure what
i use bartender4 witb like 5 action bars stack on eachother
thats le issue
i somewhat care cuz i think ui makes it easier
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yeah but legion too
venge is red one?
it impressed me
its not close
what did the wotlk glad mounts look like?
sapphiron
ultra scuffed explanation
ye thats onnicd
i would just move stuff out of the center of your screen
how exactly do you use omni cd?
like i cannot for the life of me use addons
the only pvp addon i have is gladius
all the other ones my brain is too small
./omnicd and then configure area spells
i can show you how it looks in combat 2 secs
do i have to configur what spells it tracks or no?
yesnt
huh
i just removed some stuff i didnt wanna see
for me for example is shows cc and big cds
not ip
should i remove kicks?
those are actually important
but im not a caster
you can intervene physical kicks
how long is maintenance today?
in combat added shit
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i wanna understand how to move castbars for gladius
cuz i dont look at them enough and dont check trinkets
so im p sure that could help with ui change
idk
does gladius show dr's?
is it better than sArena?
no clue
i was considering the swap to sarena
oh yeah and if i BM etc it shows me this
Anyone of you know what the addon is called that flashes you your cds when u get em back?
No, but you can get a weakaura that does
you got the code by any chance?
4 hrs later
dOwNtImE hAs BeEn ExTeNdEd By FoUr HoUrS
is the arms set bonus good for pvp
8% strength bonus just seems awesome
Once again, we'll look into the crystal ball for that one
i mean it certainly seems better than having slightly better secondaries lmao
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At least now that half the tier sets have been smashed, ours doesn't seem so bad
yea
RIP my priest's penance build
Question about arms, is it preferable that i always double overpower before sharpen + ms?
Even if theyโre low hp?
if they low hp
do the sharpen immediately
aside from that
yeah
2x overpowe
overpower*
OP in itself is more damage than the amp
No. It's Fury's season. Arms has had its time.
It will most likely never ever be fury's season
Ok ty buds
I wish you luck then
i hate to admit it
but @fickle forge isnt really wrong
i dont think its ever gonna be fury season either ๐ฆ
full delu mode popo
Because you play warrior
cringe spec
frost is a spec where to win you just have to line a 3 min cooldown
to win against them that is
lmao no u don't
current incarnation of frost is literally bfa destro
they just wanna turret in the middle of the map
my main alt is a frost mage and if you play against someone with half a brain it's impossible to dps
unless they decide to hang out in the middle of the map
I'm also not particularly good at it but once I played the alt in some pvp I never lost to a frost mage again on the warrior
it's super fun in BGs though
yeah you try and line
and then they frost orb on the pillar
and fuck you in the butt
Yeah but not second wind
yeah
Probably not lol
i dont
10% dmg reduction still good
100k hit doing 90k instead
you also have vers
and ignore pain
it'll just be like fury now
people will just choose what playstyle they like more
lmao
Are we going to be facing all the sweaty rank 1 players today even at 0 CR
if you get unlucky
so i think mmr seeds in to some degree
and it adjusts rapidly so maybe a few during placements
but they generally get out of low-mid mmr SUPER quickly
Still not even close
nah fury lookin dece
although glory probs gonna get kneecapped due to pve
I am specifically adressing that DR
That he mentioned
Cause one needs uptime, other is toggle
What makes fury decent in PvP this season compared to before?
uh so dstance getting whacked played a role
damage feels weird now
arms probably still better but i think fury has potential
Though i did not test one thing
Nor i know answer to it
But you can push enrage duration quite high
Wonder if there is cap on it
Necro fury the way to go?
make IP usable while stunned
Idk why everyone is dooming. The only thing that got nerfed was dstance. Yall act like they took the parry away lol.
i mean it is a pretty significant change especially in certain matchups where you'll be ran at
oh well i just sit battle whole game and if i die i die
maybe d if no damage and nothing else can be done to avoid it
thry nerfed death sentence too
it removed venthyr from the game
you rerolling from war to surv ? @grand scaffold
his name is fury
kyrian arms -- what soulbind do you guys use
time for ndogosurv
mikanikos
haha
ima make an alt called KubwaSurv
instead of ndogofury
that wildfire bomb set looks crazy tbh
40% chance to have no cd
imagine that + wildfire cluster
rng class
and venthyr lego
well arms needs overpower procs
fury needs raging blow procs
prot needs shield slam procs
revenge procs
and shield slam
so thats 2 procs
i dont know if there is a single class that relies on 0 rng
rog
rogue
outlaw needs pistol shot procs
assa needs poison bomb procs
sub rogue needs something
lemme think about it
nobody plays those 2 specs
wdym
there are a lot of assass rogues wdym
and theere will be many more this tier
assa rogue is crazy
and then lots of outlaws in 2s
yeah
sub rogue only spec without rng poggers
on crits
Sub is for cucks
and the enemy not popping defensives
there has to be something else aside from crits
sub rng on their tier set
bro do you know what you're talking about?
its not 40% chance XD
wildfire bomb
and sub rng on their combo point from autos
RNG on RNG is such RNG
yep
dang
also
i missed that part of the set
yeah
cuz it doesnt scale with wildfire bomb dmg
just theory crafting
pve'ers use it
haha
in pvp its pouch
there's tiny chance that people will use it as 2nd leggo in arena
but its very slim
and won't change much
but
pouch is venthyr lego
but most will use craven anyway
that lego too strong
if most use pouch now then why not use wildfire as second
if kill command resets it has 80% chance to cause wildfire bomb to have no cd
i
cuz you don't use craven for dmg, if you have enough dmg with pouch, why use wildfire
when you can have craven and never die
for max dmg
with pouch you already have plenty xD
it will be played, sure
but against only few select comps
now you were playing pouch into melee cleaves
except in 9.2 you need craven to feign spear
since everyone will play it again
2s is gonna suck even more for us this tier
i just like playing surv
not good at it
2's still gonna be fine i think
its not like we squishy af
still have a lot of durability
You need to ask?
lol
lmao
surv is giga squish if you get caught without things
true
is it not?
;D
if you don't have craven, and get caught in a spear
and your homie can't peel 2 people for you, you jsut melt or use turtle
does fury actually have any potential in 3s with tier set?
the hunter cope
just because of the crazy dmg

only thing is with fury
is durability
but when i played 3's as rdru sp
i was fine
right i feel like you die in the first stun you cant trinket lol
that might be so
was thinking of running it with a DH/rdruid for fat pressure
but if you taking that much dmg do enraged regen
usable in stuns
nah
dh warr a bit meh tbh
especially for fury
i think sp fury is bis for fury
you can call it "explode if looked at" comp
so resonator on arms?
also reeeeee conquest cap
good man, what about you?
im doing well
was about to say i was bored
just found out wow is up
you still not playing wow?
so better to run something with offheals to help the DH?
dh is good with a boomy
but warr dh
kinda sucks
doesnt have too much running for it
Cross faction might bait me but meh
10/10
feels nice to play a game that doesn't actively fuck you in the ass like wow
So my monks 1800 weapons are currently 265 ilvl? Lol
@gloomy beacon wut
nice mog
lmao
thats what the dumb leather pvp gear looks like now
im not spending gold on this derps pvp blue gear lol
dude are you 1.8 already ?
Item lv increase in s3 for s2 items ?
or did you just log in and you instantly have 1.8 gear ? XD
is that a UI bug
beecause mine isnt showing that
they didnt turn conq into gold
LMFAO
im guessing its a UI bug since you're still 218 ilvl
i had like 170k conq
my pvp ilvl is inflated from it, so its pervasive across the UI, not just that one visual
well yikes
@spice hornet what.... you still have conq in your currency tab?? Can you buy items? hahahah
you just had 180k conquest sitting.....
why hahahahha
convert that shit to boxes and sell the items. You woulda made so much more gold. Holy fuck.
thats an insane amount. jeeez
Have we all come to a consensus regarding cosmic trinkets?
resonator seems bonkers with spear warriors
kekw
Warriors are still strong as ever lol
im 4-7 on my warrior
This game is fucking aids without a dedicated team
its impossible to find a team
yall are already doing arena
hot dam
how aids is LFG in new season hahaha
I dont have a healer for 2s
or any arena in general
ok resonator is fucking gross
yeah
dmg wise not much changed
@earnest zodiac what is resonator
but thats the time to abuse gross shit
its the cosmic gladiators trinket
20k aoe
4 second cast time on it
so i spear drop it and nuke someone
interesting
LFG is absolute aids
I mean, this is the most balanced arena will be for a long time haha. Once people start getting lucky with tier pieces in the coming weeks
its gonna be ass
Did honor stay or did it reset?
I mean do people really have healers they play with in 2s etc....
feel like more people lfg than people who don't
it stayed
I got my mate but we dont wanna face maro and whazz on day 1 so kinda hope mmr drops
Prot 2p is all you need
Big, ty
does your rating / win loss ratio in the first couple weeks of a season have a big factor on your rating by the end? Like if you're losing more games than winning the first 2 weeks
does it make it super hard to climb back for 2100 or glad etc
Part of why im getting queue anxiety and dont wanna play, don't want to dig myself into a hole
nah
Win/loss has 0 effects on how much rating you get, its only mmr
just play your best
If your mmr is higher than your cr, climb would be easier
^
yeah resonator in an arms mirror was gross lmao
CAnt you just x2 resonator? With your partner
kyrian (me) vs necro
my pally doesnt have it, but we just spear hoj healer and nukify the dps
were like 4-2 now but too early to realize
but thank you for reminding me to try 2 resonators LOL
Didnโt think that would need reminding ๐
eh its more so we are being cautious with his reward
Do you just buy it with honor?
Im fucking 0-9 in arena games so far
nah world quest
Im fucking as tilted as they come right now
i saw it and immediately thought "oh this is drest part 2"
How
because LFG sucks
the only reason im positive is cause im playing with my pocket from 3s lol

Just offheal
YEAH IM MAD
i feel like mostpeople wanting solo shuffle aren't going to be happy with it
but it could b cool
isnt solo shuffle like skirmish just acting bit more serious with some rewards?
No rewards Iโm pretty sure
what was your mmr ?
Then
What is the difference there
guess imma read up on that
i see
it shuffles team
Guess I should have seen that comming
So yea, mald farm prob
I heard it gives crazy good honor
Im not sure, swapped to my mage to play mage/rogue now im winning lmao
I appreciate this so much, I to have a folder is screenshots of angry people messaging me after match
Thatโs why Iโm specifically playing prot this season until itโs nerfed then I switch to something more cancer that wastes people time
one cast of resonator vs a lock go brrr
this is a problem
i am the problem
WOOO
@earnest zodiac I mean... isnt that less damage thanth epvp trinkets now?
chain
except it sounds even easier to stop damage from resonator
lol
def getting nerfed then
Abuse it til you lose it
^
yeah i dont care if its nerfed
imma take your conquest
@plain wing in two casts of res in one game, i did 41k dmg, and on first go vs dh disc got dark ps barrier lol
this thing is funny
last time i qโed with non lfg healer for placements tbh
went 10-0
its kinda jokes
idk how you guys get so tilted over 2s
cuz its still arena
i don thave healers to play with
so its literally gonna be lfg for me
and prolly go 2-10
idk... just doesnt seem very fun
i mean i played with lfg start of last season
won 70% of my games to 2k
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
nah
wish i had people to play with
only comp i hate qโing with lfg is rogue mage
lul
If you donโt have a mage thatโs been at least 2400 its awful
2s is only good for the launch of season for easy quick rating to upgrade loots
like bad mages you cant even tell them
to land a sheep by themselves
or pre db kill targets
cant wait to face surv hunter/h priest in 2s
very true
surv hpriest probably worse now
because rdruid can actually die and hpriest pumps dam lol
my favorite part about queueing into priest/sham healer teams with lfg
is watching the lfg healer run into the shamโs line
as the dh is railing him
guy wants to die faster ig
fought7 different hpriest surv teams in 2s yesterday
past 2.5k
literally 7 different ones
it was unfair
people actually know how to ply surv now?
Just counter them with prot 
lol
last time i ran into one guy was stupid enough to let me kill his spet
Fr tho just go prot and give your healer a 40% physical dr
Who is the survival going to be able to kill?
Nah just shield block it
cant shield block in stuns
prot does no dmg
youll just lsoe in damp
or the surv kilsl ur healer
a survival can run the undispelable trap, and max root talents and you will legit be unable to play the game for like 70% of the time or more as prot while surviv destroys ur healer kek
D stance nerfs were great! love dying through multiple CDs by WPS even faster now
big oof
9.2 tier set wanna talk to u
this seasons elite set is god awful
The really phoned it in this tier it seems
Resonator + boosted shield slam 
tier set actually looks somewhat decent
in-game
the shoulders aren't as big as I thought and you can get alternative ones if you dont like the roblox look
helm makes us look like rogues though
anyone have advice on which pvp trinket to get
All of them
@wet scarab it looks like straight up green questing gear from bastion
It's wild that the honor gear version looks better
ah fuck.
Gonna be a season bois
I mean fury doesnt get good until 4 piece. Everyone should already know this. Arms > Fury until then 100p
Problem is arms is shit atm
i mean it really isnt
Tankier than fury
even with d stance nerf
playing fury right now is a throw... once you get 4 piece as necro it will be uge
huge
if not nerfed
@full quiver who the fuck got your panties in a wad
jesus christ you're cringe with all this trying to talk down on me cuz of my rating
lol
fucking weird behavior m8
like
weirdo behavior
you posted videos of you getting farmed like 2 weeks ago

You realize you can have a good understanding of something
at giga inflated 1800
without being good
again, you're attacking me
youre fucking cringe m8
get off your highhorse and stop being a weirdo
but scoob is right
Scoob sounds fucking cringe

Like it doesnt take a brain scientist to understand that fury isn't good until 4 pc for obvious synergy
lol
I dont need to be 3k to know that
fury might b fine now
@full quiver go touch some grass m8... sounds like you have a inferiority complex and need to feel like you're good at something by talking down to others for literally no reason.
felt fine when i tried it
But how do you know what is good if your stuck at pisslow tho
hmmm
maybe try getting a 3k rdruid like ndogo, bruin
he will hae to settle for 3k sham
@full quiver again... why are you trying to flex on me by saying you're better than me?
Like the fuck u acting cringe for my guy
hes not flexing
lol
s3 has been going on for an hour
is it a flex when u say ur not obese?
and bruin is already malding
go write a book in here like you did in gameplay review
is it another bruin meltie episode
fucking NA people smh
i poked the bear
nah my previous bit is over
bruinโs gonna have another meltie
he is going to die this season queuing into hunters
well he got boosted by a multiglad resto last season so
as if this season wont last a year
lol
@mystic barn multi glad resto? Who haha
guys prot warrior is the way
kekw
nah ill get 2.1k ez
we know
ez he says
just wait for 4pc
bruin if u dont get 2.1k in 1 month ur boosted
You can just not play wow for 25 weeks now
@full quiver is there grass close to your house?
dont get it 4 months into the season
and call it easy
saved for future reference
@undone pumice oh it wont be till later in the season, but 2.1 will be ez
Elden ring in the meantime
@graceful quarry ๐
nah just 2.1


