pvp

[sharp meteor]

as that'd be a little more precise/reliable, I guess

[cold totem]

can i macro it with mortal strike?

[sharp meteor]

That'd just result in you taunting a pet off cd.

Which might be okay. I prefer the flexibility of having it up when I need it, like to reposition an early elemental.

[cold totem]

that's advance pvping

damn

[sharp meteor]

like if they're going healer the play might be to taunt ele off them and hit something that isn't on the healer, so kind of split its damage and prevent the knockdown from hitting your teammate

taunting pets can also mess with hunters, or locks that aren't paying attention

demo in particular where you can often ding the pet behind a pillar

[hushed plank]

Don’t forget about disarming demo pet as well 🙂

[cold totem]

wait that works?

or is troll?

[cold totem]

What's the best healer for ret war

my holy has a hard time cc'ing+

[sharp meteor]

I think I've seen it played with every healer, although priest is usually the spookiest.

Rdruid just lives for 12 minutes

[cold totem]

because he has to run a lot to get the fear and incap

[sharp meteor]

Bolt thing, chastise healer, hoj other thing

door in for fear

[cold totem]

holy or disc?

[sharp meteor]

sharpen as healer leaves cc

i usually see disc run with cleaves

disc is more the pve comp healer

[undone pumice]

like how do i kill a fucking gdruid

[sharp meteor]

holy just dies if ran at

[tough compass]

Disc for dark, theb you dont need CC. Kappa

[undone pumice]

they have like 100k hp and so many defensives

literally how am i supposed to kill a guardian druid

[sharp meteor]

yeah disc with big barrier and stuff is just so hard to deal with

[sharp meteor]

1v1? u don't lol

[cold totem]

Mana wise

Alright

thanks for the tips (again)

[undone pumice]

all i play bgs for is to scream st random people in 1v1s because bg players have trash gear

[cold totem]

We'll try disc

[tough compass]

People play Guardian? Or du you mean guardian affinity?

[cold totem]

Close to 2k!

[undone pumice]

the tank spec

in the bg

[tough compass]

Oh BGs, solo prolly not at all

[undone pumice]

i usually find a druid

no matter what spec tbh

i hit him

i hit hin

i hit him

i hit him for 3 minutes

his entire team pulls up and violates me

like aa long as their gear isnt garbo garbo ill just be hitting any type of druid for ages

[tough compass]

You wont solo a decent druid as Warr

[undone pumice]

what if

prot warrior

[tough compass]

No clue never seen a prot warr

[undone pumice]

if i cant kill you, you cant kill me either

can we update the pvp stuff in #268491842637660160

[sharp meteor]

Druid might flop now with frenzied nerf tbh

[cold totem]

We really like mind games

xD

[sharp meteor]

yeah it's pretty aggro

venth disc kitty last season was actual terror

[tough compass]

Kitty still a thing now tho? Didnt get to try it out last ssn

[sharp meteor]

i don't see why not

as either necro warr and kyrian cat still

or maybe kyrian warr with necro kot

[tough compass]

Prolly will give it a try anyway. The Season will anyway go ages again

[sharp meteor]

just checked and the kyrian arms necro feral team i queued into at the end of last season ended at 3500 sheeesh

[undone pumice]

kyrarms necferal bis now?

[sharp meteor]

lmao idk but if they made it work last season i imagine it'll be fine or better now

[full quiver]

No dstance now tho

[sharp meteor]

actualyl yeah dstance and frenzy nerf hm

[full quiver]

Not as tanky as before

[tough compass]

30 sec leap for more uptime POG

[full quiver]

What healer were they using

Still disc?

[sharp meteor]

the one i queued into that ended at 3500 was playing with an rsham oddly enough

actually he probably swapped chars

[full quiver]

suspect loll

i guess with spear you could actually peel ret/war and other kitty cleaves off your rsham

[onyx cedar]

is this recolor on weapon still obtainable after season? i did get the pvp set in that color but never got the 2hander

[grand scaffold]

you just need to upgrade it to duelist

if you can upgrade it still

then yes its obtainable

[onyx cedar]

so ur saying as long as items are still upgradeable then it should still be obtainable?

[grand scaffold]

yes

[onyx cedar]

cool

thanks

[grand scaffold]

to upgrade it you need a win above duelist that week tho

[onyx cedar]

what rating is duelist now again

[sharp meteor]

It'll be unobtainable on Tuesday.

[grand scaffold]

^

[onyx cedar]

really? how do u know this?

[grand scaffold]

because the new season will start

and that piece will no longer be upgradable

[sharp meteor]

Elite weapons are always made unobtainable when the next season rolls around.

[grand scaffold]

^

[onyx cedar]

damn

what rating is duelist now again?

[sharp meteor]

If you get 2100 now I think you get upgrade it?

2100 is duelist. I am not sure if it lets you upgrade to get the tint now, but I think you might be able to?

[onyx cedar]

damn

ok

well thats too late then

my buddy aint playin anymore lol

thanks for the info tho!

[grand scaffold]

go in lfg

its end of season

better to atleast try

[onyx cedar]

im only 1.8k rn

gonna be annoying tbh

also to get all of that currency D:

[grand scaffold]

to get 300 rating

and upgrade

probably get it in the process

if you get like 15-30 wins in a row

you get duelist

doesnt seem hard on paper

you can probably do it if you really try!

[grand scaffold]

are there any other classes that play similar to arms in pvp?

the spec is quite fun but its gonna be not meta 😦

[sharp meteor]

havoc/assa for killin stuff

feral/surv for having buttons to mess with people

honorable mention to windwalker

[sage raptor]

WW is just as easy

[grand scaffold]

is there a class with a similar playstyle tho

[sharp meteor]

ww is fairly stressful relative to arms imo

wym playstyle lol like in dealing damage or the defensive team aspect or what

[grand scaffold]

idk how to explain it

but similar to the way to dmg i guess

[sage raptor]

Rotation?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

because arms without the team utility/symbiosis is legit every other melee

where u press 123

only weird melee is like sub

or maybe surv because it's actually ranged

[sage raptor]

I guess frost dk is like arms but not as much sustain and no execute.

You're only doing damage in goes

[grand scaffold]

ima just play warrior having no execute isnt fun

cant lie

[sage raptor]

Fair enough

[grand scaffold]

i like spamming execute and slamming people

[sage raptor]

Understandable

[raw summit]

Stay Arms then

Arms is the class that's closest to arms in playstyle

[grand scaffold]

yea

[raw summit]

[grand scaffold]

thats true

but is it still viable next patch?

thats what worries me

screw next patch

i meant this patch

[raw summit]

You played fury to 2400

[grand scaffold]

i mean yea

[raw summit]

Why would viability concern you

[grand scaffold]

idk

arms not being meta is strange

just really really strange

[warped warren]

xd

[sage raptor]

The meta is supposed to change throughout an expansion lol

[grand scaffold]

you arent wrong

[sage raptor]

We might not see any arms warriors at all next season in 10.0

[grand scaffold]

rough

[sage raptor]

It be like that.

[tough compass]

Wait do you think Fury gonna be Meta?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

it is gonna be meta

set bonus is crazy

[sage raptor]

Two swords do more damage than one.

[grand scaffold]

but as of right now

[tough compass]

Fury is super bad in the def department tho

[grand scaffold]

it is not meta

so is arms now

[tough compass]

Parry > Enraged reg

tho

[grand scaffold]

listen

[sage raptor]

Neither are super bad. They're just dramatisized.

[grand scaffold]

d stance was the BIG thing about arms

now d stance = warpaint except you do crap dmg while in d stance

enraged regen is also good vs casters

parry is not

[tough compass]

Not really, warpaint drops ion a stun

d stance not

[grand scaffold]

both have negatives

warpaint doesnt decrease the dmg you do

d stance does

it reduces your output more than what you take

the pressure of fury is like 40x higher too

[sharp meteor]

no parry might be rough if meta is fast

[tough compass]

I just dont see Fury, it feels so weak whenever I see it xd

[sharp meteor]

no duel is fine if everybody runs at you

no sharpen is eh, but fury has big ms

so eh

[grand scaffold]

if you dont wanna play fury then dont

but yeah

fury gonna be meta

40% mortal strike on no cd is kinda overtuned

[sharp meteor]

I could really see fury being better especially if meta isn't break-neck

fury with glory fucking cranks

[grand scaffold]

yeah

^

[sharp meteor]

so hard that i think it might get nerfed because of pve

[sage raptor]

I think it will be neck and neck tbh

[grand scaffold]

eh

im not so sure about that

if they are neck and neck

im playing arms tho

[sage raptor]

I mean, I can see it getting nerfed in pve. Which means nerfed in pvp.

[grand scaffold]

would be nice to get 2400 playing arms too

hmm

if it were to get nerfed in pve

wouldve happened by now

its gonna get nerfed due to pvp

i think

because that hasnt gone live yet

[sage raptor]

This is blizz we're talking about

[grand scaffold]

yeah

they care about pve'ers more

tbh

[raw summit]

Ofc

[grand scaffold]

no way of predicting this

but

i do think it will get nerfed because of pvp

[sage raptor]

Theyre letting assassination going how it is in pvp because ita fine pve from what I've seen.

[grand scaffold]

blizz hates fury in pvp

a few classes will get nerfed because of pvp

assa rogue, probably sub, ww and ret, and fury most likely

some casters too

ESPECIALLY DEMO

that has to get nerfed

ideally

set bonuses dont work in pvp

that solves a lot of things tbh

[sage raptor]

Yeah

[grand scaffold]

double lego

i think that would be nice to be in pvp

[sage raptor]

Already bad enough with that

Some classes get the shaft with that

DK was one. That leggo got buffed along with abom limb itself.

Outlaw is forced into venthyr lol

[grand scaffold]

outlaw CAN play necro

it isnt bad at all

but playing ventjyr

just screams 1 shot

dreadblades flagellation

greenskins wickers

[sage raptor]

Its a killer

[grand scaffold]

and obedience

[sage raptor]

But the necro leggo for outlaw is bad

[grand scaffold]

yeah

necro is bad for outlaw

tho its playable

because outlaw has gouge and gouge breaks on dots

and

its a perma dot from necro

[sage raptor]

And it spreads

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[sage raptor]

So you're essentially getting rid of a cc playing necro

[grand scaffold]

yeah

fury next patch is just ridiculous

imagine

signet

[sharp meteor]

I thought gouge ripped off your stuff

[grand scaffold]

AND

glody

[sage raptor]

I'm excited.

[sharp meteor]

even then it could be used as a kick

[grand scaffold]

glory*

nah

[sharp meteor]

necro outlaw seems okay but venth seems better

[grand scaffold]

gouge is an incap

yeah

venth outlaw bis

you know

with all the rampages fury gonna be pressing

could deathmaker be good

deathmaker necro fury with glory

and reckless abandon

seems over the top af

[tough compass]

assuming fury has 100% uptime it sounds pretty neat ye

[grand scaffold]

i mean

[near inlet]

How is signet leg?

[grand scaffold]

crushing blow is a mini charge

signet is rn BIS

with haste and vers on ring slot

next patch

idk if unhinged or deathmaker is gonna be better

[sharp meteor]

deathmaker or sephuz might b cool

[raw summit]

Sephuz is neat

[grand scaffold]

sephuz as orc could be good

[sharp meteor]

ya def orc until at least 9.2.5

[near inlet]

Sephuz need stat buf ;(

[sharp meteor]

the stats seem dece although it loses some value with trinket change because no fat vers gainz

[grand scaffold]

even reckless defense could be good next patch

lower cd enraged regen

[raw summit]

Bleh

That Lego is like Anger Management but trash

[grand scaffold]

yeah

the thing is

you still get to use reckless abandon

[sharp meteor]

lel that plus anger management might b funni

[grand scaffold]

it could bne

be*

but with new set bonus i doubt anger management would see use

[warped warren]

crushing blow is a better death sentence

[grand scaffold]

facts

what would be nice is if enduring rage and slaughterhouse were baseline for fury

and then they add new pvp talents

[tough compass]

What is Curshing Blow? xd

[grand scaffold]

so

reckless abandon is an awesome talent for fury

it causes recklessness to cause raging blow to do 100% more dmg

and charge at the target

but

it cant be used while rooted

the talent turns raging blow to crushing blow during recklessness

[tough compass]

Which Talent is it? Reckless Abandon?

[grand scaffold]

yah

the one at the bottom of the screen

[tough compass]

ya I see

it just doesnt say it the abilities get replaced

so I was confused

[scarlet barn]

what?

it is not 100% more

[grand scaffold]

thats what i heard

[scarlet barn]

Do you ever fact check?

[raw summit]

It's more dam but not that much

Compare tooltips

[grand scaffold]

i just go with what i hear razonko

i generally assume people are honest

[raw summit]

I heard you have a good healer friend

[scarlet barn]

That explains a lot

[raw summit]

[grand scaffold]

i mean

it goes from 4k dmg

to 7500

its near 100%

[tough compass]

My Raging blow goes from 2900 to 5350

[scarlet barn]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=335100/crushing-blow#comments

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=85288/raging-blow

numbers mason

What do they mean

[grand scaffold]

i gotta wait for recklessness

and razonko

i got the idea from wowhead

thats where i read it

[scarlet barn]

Comments?

[grand scaffold]

i didnt check comments 😐

oh dang

i got avatar buff

no wonder

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-mic-drop-largar-o-microfone-gif-7413222

[undone pumice]

reckless abandon is bugged btw

when in reck u cant proc battle trance

[near inlet]

Does Will of the berserker work with New set??

[near inlet]

:( so bad bug

[scarlet barn]

report it

[undone pumice]

it seems pretty obvious?

[scarlet barn]

Still report it

[steep inlet]

Ndogo master of bad infos

[sharp meteor]

I didn't even know fury had slam until a few days ago

How much does reckless abandon even empower the abilities

[fickle forge]

Check Raz' links up above

[fickle forge]

61% AP vs 94% AP

[sharp meteor]

o legendary

all i knew was that it hit harder and made raging blow have the death sentence charge which is siiick

[fickle forge]

So like 50% roughly

[sharp meteor]

was torn between that and AM

[fickle forge]

It's def the play with tier set

[scarlet barn]

just from that

its like 53% increase

so far cry from claimed 100%

[fickle forge]

That 100% claim was troll

[undone pumice]

anger mamagement is garbo tho

always like sb and ra over am

[hearty orchid]

anger management could be the play with set

and glory necro

[minor vector]

definitely not, cranking blow does big dam

[sharp meteor]

plus u zoom around and stuff hmm

[undone pumice]

its death sentence

but better

[steep inlet]

i still cant choose between fury and arms for s3 start

fuck

[undone pumice]

play both

just swap specs depending on enemy

xd

[steep inlet]

:(

[lavish ember]

Hows war looking coming season? Rbg mostly

[undone pumice]

dont play prot

and then just do rbg stuff

[steep inlet]

first time i test crushing blow

feels cool

this little death sentence mode

[undone pumice]

but u cant proc btrance

is sad

[steep inlet]

ah the fucking bug

[undone pumice]

ye its gay

[sage raptor]

Prot bis for rbgs. Everyone else are just hating.

[sharp meteor]

i like how everything other than bear is just trolling

[undone pumice]

prot is only bis because tou get to be turbo fast

because druids are op

in every spec

kekw

[quasi lotus]

can just play enraged + slaughter + (disarm or bloodrage) every game anyway

[undone pumice]

y'all not ready for the fact silvershard is the best bg and the only one close id kotmogu

[sage raptor]

Silvershard is bae

Kotmogu depends on the teammates.

People see that as a deathmatch more than an objective game mode.

I really want a bg that's just a straight deathmatch

[undone pumice]

kotmogu is nic

u can 1 shot if ur orb haver

[sage raptor]

And be oneshot if you've been holding it long enough

Everyone has different strats they try to run.

There's one I can't stand and it's Eye of the Storm.

[lavish ember]

Hello folks, is war any good for rbg coming season?

[steep inlet]

Are you serious people answered you

Few lines ago

At the same question

[lavish ember]

Sorry my internet messed up earlier thought it didnt post.

[scarlet barn]

Troma being the rough guy

[steep inlet]

ah ok irtimid

[lavish ember]

Im just looking around a bit for a new class to play coming season. Preferably one that is wanted in rbgs. Would arms be the top pick?

[lucid walrus]

top, not necessarily. arms is sought-after though yeah

if you wanna do the most i'm pretty sure boomy is still a good dps with utility, plus as a druid you can offspec fc for flag maps

[lavish ember]

Between paladin, war and druid which do you think will be most picked? Saw someone say druid is OP but heard the same about war

[lucid walrus]

depends what you wanna do i'd think. warr is often expected to target call bc of spear and sharpen, druid's more versatile. ret's job is banging out people in teamfight to my understanding

[fickle forge]

You can never go wrong with boomkin

Should boomkin by some unforseen dark storm not be viable in RBG, then you got guardian to fall back on

[twilit flax]

did anyone buy korth crystals before patch went up?

I bought 500 on my Ali rogue and they went up x2.5 lol

I knew they would

[twilit flax]

Druids always best for rbg

[lucid walrus]

in the boat of "shit new leggo ranks here's my chance" so i've been buying crystals to make my r1 crafts into r3 while i level

suffice it to say they're more expensive now

[undone pumice]

what are korth crystals for

[lucid walrus]

ranks up leggo crafts by 2. new one from ZM is +3 allowing for rank 7s

[undone pumice]

so theyre useless if im not a jewelcrafter

great

[lucid walrus]

they're used for all leggo-crafting profs

and you can sell em easily yeah

[gentle roost]

So is Venth still going to be viable?

Or shall I swap over to Necro or Kyrian?

[undone pumice]

venth is gonna be

significantly worse

comparee to necro and kyrian

and kyrian will be bis and probably the most versatile

[gentle roost]

So gotta swap to Kyrian then?

[elder wigeon]

nobody has played venthyr since 9.1

[gentle roost]

But isn’t condemn incredibly easy to use?

Like no set up required?

[elder wigeon]

it's trash

does no damage

[gentle roost]

Kk so what’s better? The spear or the banner?

[elder wigeon]

depends on the comp

[gentle roost]

What’s more versatile?

[nimble jasper]

its not like kyrian is such big brain setup either

[elder wigeon]

Kyrian is by far more versatile

[nimble jasper]

idk how i see some warriors

whiff spears by a mile tho

[gentle roost]

Kk so Kyrian it is

[sharp meteor]

yeah don't spear without a stun on the target if they have a blink

[nimble jasper]

kyrian also lets you kill druids

[sharp meteor]

also third season in a row of spear so people are reasonably used to it

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor weirdest part about low mmr rbg daily wins

not queueing vs a horde team and seeing an orc on every class

that can be

[sharp meteor]

orc so sweat

wish i went gob or panda on one of mine

but hardiness is so good aaaaa

[nimble jasper]

its annoying

i went belf after i stopped doing pvp much on my rogue

and now im getting annoyed

at no hardiness

aaaaa

do you ever have to play reg trinket as human

I dont mind orc warrior as much since orcs kinda look good in plate

[elder wigeon]

tauren warrior is pretty badass, so is undead

[cold totem]

Oof tauren

High mountain looks better

But I'm on the War Orc train

https://c.tenor.com/4wazOSXkuiEAAAAM/battle-for-azeroth-world-of-warcraft.gif

[nimble jasper]

highmountain same shit

[elder wigeon]

tauren just curb stomps shit man

[jaunty furnace]

Should you stay in D stance the whole game except for your burst?

[cold totem]

No

[sharp meteor]

good way to get destroyed on pressure

because you're doing no dam

[elder wigeon]

it's more important to be out of d-stance than in it more than ever

[cold totem]

Exactly -20%

[sharp meteor]

u do need to be in d for their offensive stuff if u can't parry or your healer doesn't have external

because sitting d all game is just begging to fall behind on pressure

which lets them keep swinging into u

which keeps u in d

[cold totem]

And it might be me because I'm new too warrior

But I don't have like a burst damage

Warbreaker MS

[sharp meteor]

warbreaker + spear/conq during sharpen is REALLY scary

especially if u get a sd proc prior, or during

[cold totem]

I don't feel that much pressure by me with conqueror

I feel it with spear

[cold totem]

Dude today I got a 30k crit with sd

Biggest ever

[sharp meteor]

yeah sometimes that's how it be

[nimble jasper]

havent people done like

45k exes

[lucid walrus]

mud came just shy of a 50 i think

some guys in here have hit 45 easily

[cold totem]

I'm not 9/9

But that's awesome

[nimble jasper]

8/9

9 doesnt do anything

[cold totem]

45k exe damn

Literally, /kill

[nimble jasper]

banner badge orc avatar

[elder wigeon]

I've hit some 40K executes on non clothies

[nimble jasper]

kindred juice can push near 50

[cold totem]

[elder wigeon]

only on a clothie with every buff in the game aligned

specifically a mage

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[cold totem]

And biggest MS?

Me 18k

[nimble jasper]

people have hit over 30k

psure

[cold totem]

Damn

Imma stay on war for sure

[nimble jasper]

18k isnt that huge for necro

tbh

[cold totem]

Idk that's me

[sharp meteor]

rip the kyrian juice

[cold totem]

I built around crit

Then I realized Necro was haste prio

[sharp meteor]

crit was fine, arguably better if you were playing something bursty

[cold totem]

I usually check on the 3v pvp ladder

But yeah i don't know what comp they are playing

So I came here, for answers

😅

[sharp meteor]

necro was usually retwarr or kitty

[nimble jasper]

basically

[sharp meteor]

kitty in particular was so violently bursty on goes

[nimble jasper]

i swear necro in 2s is int

if not with a feral

[cold totem]

I didn't know that :( till I asked here

We tried ret war disc, instead of ret war holy

We feel the 15% increase damage

But lacking healing?

[elder wigeon]

disc has stronger healing than holy

[cold totem]

Hmmm

Is it because he focus too much on dealing dmg maybe?

[sharp meteor]

disc feels like the cleave healer

holy has good setup with chastise if you queuing something like rmp

also the super bursty healing profile works nicely with how specs like fire or sub take damage

[elder wigeon]

holy should struggle a lot more healing a cleave than disc

by a lot

[cold totem]

Then we are doing something wrong

[elder wigeon]

if your priest is having trouble healing as a disc they're doing something terribly wrong

[cold totem]

I trust you

[elder wigeon]

disc is the absolute easiest and best cleave healer while they have a mana bar

that's where rshams and rdruids come in, because they are significantly more mana efficient

[cold totem]

Alright

I'll talk with my friends tomorrow

[sharp meteor]

i thought your healer was holy

[cold totem]

Thanks for the info as always

[lucid walrus]

25 for me w/o externals, have had a proc follow it up for just as much

nowhere near peak

[cold totem]

He was

[sharp meteor]

and i was saying that you'd have an easier time with disc

venth or nf

venth being the more offensive and nf being the cdr/dampener

[cold totem]

But today after reading you guys I told him to give disc a try since he played a bit

[prime mesa]

Does honor carry over to next season

[elder wigeon]

yes

[cold totem]

Blue post said yes.

[prime mesa]

Ahh didn’t see it kk thx

[nimble jasper]

idk how people play necro war in healer 2s

q in war healer mirror

spear his banner pop

shambles

[elder wigeon]

kekw

i beat kyrian wars all the time as necro

[sharp meteor]

Yes, and you should hopefully be able to buy honor gear on Tuesday that can be upgraded to 259

[elder wigeon]

why would you do that tho

[cold totem]

Hmm

We won't be able to get the conquest weapon first week right?

[nimble jasper]

no

[sharp meteor]

No, but you can work on vault and hopefully get it out of there.

[nimble jasper]

earliest you can get is pulling from first vault

[cold totem]

Oh shit

[sharp meteor]

What was s2 cap week 1? 800 or 850? Then back to 550

[cold totem]

That's like winning the lottery

[sharp meteor]

It is. Duelist wep when everybody is in last seasons gear is murderous.

[elder wigeon]

indeed

[sharp meteor]

like 10-14% more damage

[elder wigeon]

def shouldn't be able to get weapon in the first 3 weeks

[sharp meteor]

yeah not a fan of that

fks up the first few weeks

[elder wigeon]

unfair advantage not only on damage but because they don't have to spend 1800 conquest on the weapon

[sharp meteor]

my sham got his wep first vault then bought the other

[elder wigeon]

which allows them to have 3 pieces of gear more than others

the advantage carries on through the season until about 2 months in

[sharp meteor]

gonna get 3 slots on 4 warrs

and still get adapt and mastery pieces

[elder wigeon]

kekw

[sharp meteor]

[cold totem]

U guys use shield block?

[sharp meteor]

or I'll get the wep on my shitcan alt warr with 200 conduits

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Too many globals.

[cold totem]

I read it in wowhead guide

[sharp meteor]

Although might be worth theorycrafting.

[cold totem]

And I was like that's too advance shit for me right now

[elder wigeon]

on paper it's nice but it's super clunky, and you lose more pressure than it's worth

[sharp meteor]

thought about jungle after seeing dstance nerf and immediately keybound it

heck maybe the play is hit healer or feral before the hunter kills us three minutes in

[alpine pumice]

Does HONOR reset tomorrow as well or just Conquest?

[lucid walrus]

just conq

[sharp meteor]

Just conquest.

[alpine pumice]

thanks

[elder wigeon]

not tomorrow

on tuesday

[alpine pumice]

that's what I meant. But just conquest and not honor though right? Keep getting mixed answers

[elder wigeon]

yes just conquest

honor is staying

[sharp meteor]

A GM said that honor is wiped, but GMs are often clueless, and a blue clarified that it wouldn't be reset.

[plain wing]

@elder wigeon just wait till you find out people get lucky with 4 piece.

[sharp meteor]

yeah can't wait to queue into gigachadx on week 4 who has a duelist wep and 4piece tier

[elder wigeon]

gonna fight someone on 5th week with sword and 4 piece

while I have 1 tier piece and sword

[plain wing]

yep

[elder wigeon]

it's whatever, I'll still crush people

get glad again in the first few days

[plain wing]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-wwe-pumped-hell-yeah-gif-12325054

[sharp meteor]

yeah i want it before it's super welfare but not sure if my healer will be on enough

also looking forward to having like 20 vault slots week 1 and getting 0 weps

[winter nymph]

what is the best legendary i should craft for pvp? and the best stats ?

[grand scaffold]

depends on your spec @winter nymph

also your covenant

fury anything is hast vers with signet of tormented kings

necro arms is haste/crit + vers enduring blow on helmet

kyrian arms is crit vers elysian might on legs

signet is on ring btw

[jaunty furnace]

I didn’t even look up how to get tier sets outside of raid

How do the PvP folks get theirs?

[sage raptor]

Vault

[grand scaffold]

vault

also there is an npc that lets you convert pvp pieces to pve pieces using flux

but idk when that comes out

[elder wigeon]

several weeks after, in the creation catalyst

[plain wing]

did blizz change the bonus from double trinkets? I coulda sworn the tooltip used to say a vers bonus

now mine say stam and str bonus

[lucid walrus]

yeah

[elder wigeon]

anyone know the name of the new pvp enchant?

[lucid walrus]

cosmic something probably

[elder wigeon]

cosmic flow

[sharp meteor]

Cosmic Flow, but I can't find the spell ID.

[elder wigeon]

yup same

[sharp meteor]

Oh, well. Sparkly yellow illusion on Tuesday.

[undone pumice]

piss illusion

[spice hornet]

Wish they just made all the enchants look like the mop ones but with different colors

Imagine a black bloody dancing steel

Instead we get dogshit

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's what i have been saying

i want somebody a zone away to see the big fuckoff illusion

[plain wing]

Hunters are such fucking tools in bg's

that is all

fucking losers.

play in traffic.

[elder wigeon]

nah I think the illusion is cool with this season's sword but that's it

I like the tier set because of it's uniqueness and appreciate the fine detail in it, but other than that, I'd like to go back to a time when there was class sets for pvp

i guess technically that's 9.2 with a pvp recolor, i just want pvp specific sets and pve sets and class specific sets

[cold totem]

The PvE set is only obtainable from raid?

[raw summit]

Vault and crafting thingy

[cold totem]

Alright thanks

Good morning btw

[elder wigeon]

there is no pve set it's all the same thing

[floral ingot]

We’ve had lame armor type specific sets for 2 expacs now
Going back to at least class specific sets is a good thing

One step at a time

Maybe we’ll get PvP and pve specific sets next

This is never going to happen but I’d like spec specific sets

That would be hella cool

Like imagine if you completed a set at like 2.4 rating instead of 1.8

And you see a warrior wearing fury specific shadowlands PvP tmog

You’d go “damn, this guy is incredibly masochistic, I respect him”

[elder wigeon]

if there was spec specific that'd be way too much work and convoluted

[cold totem]

I agree class specific is enough

[elder wigeon]

there could be class sets with spec recolors, that'd be neat I think

[cold totem]

I think I need to do ZM with my alter

[elder wigeon]

alter?

[cold totem]

sorry second character

BEcause I need repu for the gem slot thingy right?

[elder wigeon]

I'm only doing rep on one character because the rewards are account wide I'm pretty sure

[raw summit]

No gem slot this Patch

I thought

[elder wigeon]

afaik there's nothing to put gems on stuff but legendary slots should still have gems I think

[cold totem]

thank god, im doing it on my gdruid

[lucid walrus]

boes as well but those'll be less relevant in full gear

[raw summit]

Pls no boe versa crit Ring

[lucid walrus]

most you'll see is a 262 one

unless there's one in raid, i don't have a clue

[cold totem]

Could Bounding Strike be usable, instead of dstance?

[floral ingot]

Ye, that’s why it’s never gonna happen
Tints/recolors are way more realistic

Or at the very least tabards/weapons

Since glad mounts and titles are account wide it would be nice to at least tie some cool cosmetics to different specs

Would also push people to experiment more

[elder wigeon]

I'd like gladiator to remain account wide but just be top .5% again

better yet, make r1 titles class wide and same with gladiator to disincentivize having a bunch of characters in the top spots

[floral ingot]

True, tbh pushing .5% and only getting a title is kinda lame

[elder wigeon]

nah getting the title and the mount isn't lame

getting 2400 with 50 wins for gladiator when r1 is 1000+ rating higher is super lame

[floral ingot]

I mean .5% cut off was like 3.6 this season

[elder wigeon]

maybe EU but not NA

[floral ingot]

And the only difference between a 3.6 and a 2.4 player is a title

[elder wigeon]

top .5% was top ~750 which was around 3k

that's why you don't let top 5% players get a gladiator title and mount that used to mean top .5%

[floral ingot]

Ah nvm, 3.6 is .1%

Wait, so you don’t get anything for .5% anymore?

I thought u get a title, but that’s .1%

[elder wigeon]

No you get nothing after 2.4

which is really bad

elite is 2400, and so is gladiator

gladiator used to be top .5% but they changed it

all you need is 50 wins at ~2400 to get the gladiator mount and title

but what do 2400 players get that say 3500 players get? the exact same thing

[undone pumice]

they get bragging rights

but imo tgere should be rewards at 2.8 and 3.2

[raw summit]

2,6 2,8 imo

Maybe 3k

Ideally season doesnt go much over 3k

[undone pumice]

or 2.7 3.0

[elder wigeon]

we don't need bracketed rewards based on rating, just ladder ranking

[undone pumice]

3k should be tgepeak any higher just screams inflated season

top 50 players get a title or recolored glad mount

top 100 get smth too

[elder wigeon]

top .5% = glad and top .1% being season gladiator is perfectly fine

[undone pumice]

yeah thats good

but the ranks are weird af tbh like ita 1400 1600 1800 then it starts going by 300s 2100 2400

[elder wigeon]

gladiator was top .5% of teams in battlegroup from season 1 -> 13, gladiator was top .5% of players in season 14-> 25 (legion s7)

only from season 26 (bfa s1) to now has it been 2400 with 50 wins at or above

[undone pumice]

is there a way for 2s to be respectable at all at this point

[elder wigeon]

No

it never should've been a bracket you could get glad or r1 in

it's impossible to balance unless you ruin 3's

[cold totem]

I'm going to try and get gladi this season

Never tried before

[undone pumice]

so should i just go fuck myself and go play 3s

[raw summit]

2s for gear 3s for title is fine

[undone pumice]

so i play the real game

[elder wigeon]

3's is the real game

[undone pumice]

kitty still good right

[elder wigeon]

has been for a very very long time

yes kitty is still good

[undone pumice]

and warr mage

[elder wigeon]

not so much

it's meh

[undone pumice]

how about ww warr

[elder wigeon]

meh

[undone pumice]

damn

top comps rn just ret arms and kitty?

[floral ingot]

Real men play double war

[raw summit]

I wanna get mount this time around

Double war 2s

[undone pumice]

i wanna play 3s this time around

[raw summit]

Ultrachad

[floral ingot]

Should also play fury

[undone pumice]

i unironically played fury + fury it was fun

[elder wigeon]

Ret war, Kitty, Jungle, RMP are the best comps in the game currently

[tired portal]

triple war=triple spear

[undone pumice]

jungle?

[elder wigeon]

not necessarily in that order

Jungle is Feral hunter disc priest

[undone pumice]

damn

[elder wigeon]

jungle is shaping up to be the best comp in the game in 9.2

[undone pumice]

gotta convince my brother to try 3s then

however feral and arms seem really dominant to be in 2/4 of the top comps

[elder wigeon]

my own predictions is that Jungle will completely dominate the ladder, and RMP will be a close second only because RMP gets spanked by jungle

[floral ingot]

Make sure the guy is in the middle and gets dragged in 3 different directions

[undone pumice]

what is rmp counter?

[elder wigeon]

Jungle kinda counters rmp

otherwise none

[undone pumice]

sheesh

[floral ingot]

Rmp gets countered by rmp making mistakes

[raw summit]

Raiku talking about farming teams queueing jungle into their rmp

Cuz they got nervous tryna snipe

[elder wigeon]

just wait until tier sets and double legendary

jungle will rip the face off the ladder

[undone pumice]

so rn i play with a sub rogue, a ww(also plays mw), a feral/fire, and a rsham, seems like the play would be to convince feral and rsham to play 3s together

[elder wigeon]

yeah kitty is good

nowhere near as good as last season due to kyrian druid nerfs but still good

[undone pumice]

does healer matter for kitty

[elder wigeon]

I'd say yes

[undone pumice]

i know mw is in a terrible spot

[elder wigeon]

mw isn't terrible, it's just the weakest of the healers but does very well healing kitty cleave

Rdruid>=Disc > Hpally > Rsham > Holy > MW

disc is probably the best healer for kitty in 9.2 with double lego and tier set

[undone pumice]

yeah i know, thats why its in a terrible spot because its the worst healer

[elder wigeon]

mw has plenty of comps where you can get r1 with it

[undone pumice]

yeah but it seems rlly hard vs some other specs

[elder wigeon]

MW is best at healing caster cleaves or Warrior + hybrid

sure it's harder because your positioning is everything as mw

[cold totem]

I feel like MW are squeeze and arena dependant

But thats my noob guess

[undone pumice]

some arenas are aids with any comp

mogambogaoogaboogala

[raw summit]

Fuck that one

[undone pumice]

the kyrian arena too

it hurts my eyes

[cold totem]

too white right???

[undone pumice]

yeah

[cold totem]

in that arena

I play like if I was in the snow

Like closing my eyes a bit

[undone pumice]

too bad i cant fucking use inky black potion in it

at leasat i can use inky blacks in elysian hold

[floral ingot]

Ye that’s lame

They spectate with inky black potion on in awc

But you can’t use it on live

[undone pumice]

ye

[cold totem]

Fuck

My healer doesn't like disci

He says he can't heal a huge burst like the enhancement one

[elder wigeon]

enhancement one?

[cold totem]

Shaman

Ahhh, i really want him to play disc

[elder wigeon]

shaman will be excellent in 9.2

[iron basalt]

Are kyrian wars still going crit/versa this season?

[tired portal]

what ilvl are mythic dungeons dropping right now?

[frank knoll]

The same as last season rn new ilvl don’t start till tomorrow

[floral ingot]

236

After reset it’s gonna be 255 for a week

And then 262 till the end of SL

[sage raptor]

The end won't come soon enough

[tired portal]

awesome,ty!

[undone pumice]

cant wait for dragonlanda

[floral ingot]

Next expac is Winds of Murlocia, your lizard plebs fade in comparison to amphibian chads

[gritty bough]

How’s fury shaping in 2s and 3s 9.2?

[undone pumice]

lot better

its still not arms tho

[gritty bough]

Yeah the big crits and survivability suck :/

[undone pumice]

bro

u dont get a 75% mortal wounds every 25 seconds

and u only have 1 defensive

thats why its worse

[steep inlet]

75% ?

[undone pumice]

sharpen + mortal

65%

sry

[shy aurora]

Do we Get new season item in vault tomorrow?

[steep inlet]

Nan

It’s 50% total

It doesn’t stack

@undone pumice

[gusty palm]

Tomorrow boys! Get ready to be focused more then ever!

[jaunty furnace]

I think this will be the longest season ever. Who’s ready for over a year of shadowlands still

[warped warren]

fury has 110% ms

sheckmate3

[finite fox]

Why play fury or arms when we can just play prot

[undone pumice]

tru

[grand scaffold]

what 75% are you talking about?

sharpen blade overrides mortal wounds

they dont stack

[steep inlet]

i told him

read all

[grand scaffold]

oh yea

didnt see

mb

[grand scaffold]

season 2 item D:

[undone pumice]

its still instant 50

dont need to stack multiple rampages on the same target

[grand scaffold]

ture

true*

is kyrian arms looking to be atleast A tier?

and what is necro fury looking to be

[undone pumice]

necro fury is best for fury, kyrian is best for arms

[grand scaffold]

well yeah i know that

BUT

what tier is each spec

[raw summit]

Howd u make a tierlist 6 days into 9. 2

[grand scaffold]

idk

[steep inlet]

nobody knows yet

what this chan has become ffs

[undone pumice]

its probably gonna be like that

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[undone pumice]

because fury likes banner more than spear and arms likes spear more than banner

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but

kyrian could also be bis for fury

arms defo kyrian is best

[undone pumice]

yeah

its not 100% but ur smart right ndogo

u can hit 2.4k with a 3k rdruid

[thick reef]

So when we go kyrian we go mainly elysian might and enduring blow right? Which slots do you craft those on ideally?

[undone pumice]

belt EB

unity can be crafted on any slot so

idealy any slot thats not tier pieced

[grand scaffold]

eh

might be unhinged with elysian might

nothing set in stone yet

nvm

miss understood you question

yeah enduring and elysian

[thick reef]

And which slots? That’s what I can’t find anywhere

[grand scaffold]

as of right now

i have no clue about unity

but

enduring blow on helmet crit vers

elysian might on legs with crit vers

do not craft elysian might tho

waste of gold

[thick reef]

Whys that?

[grand scaffold]

because unity is free on belt

and that is elysian might

just wait to be able to get unity

1-2 weeks

for now can craft elysian might at a lower ilvl

but at 262+ is a complete waste

[thick reef]

Got it. Keep in on belt or straight away craft a rank 7 once revered is what ur saying

[grand scaffold]

so

keep it on belt until you can craft it on something else

mastery kinda meh for arms

eventually want it on chest or legs i think

just because no crit on those slots

maybe even ring

but idk if you get to pick unity stats

ive played ptr

ive not*

[iron basalt]

Kyrian arms still going crit/versa this season

?

[sharp meteor]

idk haste plus enduring seems pretty nice

rend, too

[raw summit]

Crafted one yes

Belt no

[undone pumice]

REND

GAMING

[grand scaffold]

so craft unity on ring then

double crit ring

[gusty palm]

What are kyrians stats? Coming from a season being necro

[raw summit]

Haste or crit

Both works

[undone pumice]

how about

both

at the same time

[grand fable]

fury necro gonna be viable for lower cr pvp this tier?

[lucid walrus]

anything’s viable in the depths

depends what your goal is

[grand fable]

just trying to push enough to fill vault and get a better chance of getting tier set pieces

[lucid walrus]

it's totally fine for that then

[sharp meteor]

should be fine for anything short of r1

[jaunty furnace]

Gladiator fury warriors!

I just want to get 1800 but it’s impossible with these LFG healers

[sharp meteor]

gotta dig deep

drag those lfg healers to victory

[lavish ember]

If i understand correctly. The second legendary will be the kyrian one on the belt and the other legendary will be enduring blow on a headpiece?

[sharp meteor]

can craft unity anywhere as i recall

belt from questline is the freebie one tho

[lavish ember]

Yeah ok but that is always the covenant one. Cause i have that one on my legs atm since i was told it was the best a couple of months ago.

[sharp meteor]

ya it was but slot didn't rly matter, and doesn't now aside from tier

[lavish ember]

But doesnt the covenant legendary need to be crafted again after obtaining the unity item?

[sharp meteor]

unity is cov leggo

[lavish ember]

Cause right now i have it from the renown 48 reward.

[undone pumice]

you need to recraft it yes

[lavish ember]

So i will need to craft the Enduring blow and the unity one, right?

[sharp meteor]

ye

early gearing kind of scuffed because u could get tier in leggo slots

[undone pumice]

its bad game design

[lavish ember]

Very much. Pricey one too.

[onyx gorge]

mates that curia will be better necro or kyrian in 9.2????

[raw summit]

Gotta admit

Necro fury doesnt feel bad

Too many Rampages in too little time

Although im p sure youd want something with more externals than mw

[merry vessel]

[22:43] wbwb: vs turbo
[22:43] wbwb: do we go warr or enhance
[22:43] wbwb: both seem so tanky

[nimble jasper]

enh is not tanky wut

[merry vessel]

selfhealing is very high no?

[raw summit]

Just sharpen when they low

And it eats their surge

Self heal got nerfed for em

[sharp meteor]

enh and 10% dstance tanky hmm

i am honestly so glad most people don't know how enh works

[raw summit]

Enha kinda kills u with doomwinds

But the wolves dont really do shit idk

That's as far as i got

[fickle forge]

Why are ya'll so far off on enh lmao

[sharp meteor]

doom is fun when u can play it but usually can't

wolfbones and whatever super nice

[finite fox]

If you were prot you could just mitigate all the damage

[nimble jasper]

prot takes the cock