pvp

[nimble jasper]

xuen is bait af

[gusty palm]

thoughts on Supateases Prot warrior pvp vid?

[sharp meteor]

maybe if an actual warrior makes a video

[lucid walrus]

goomba stomping hunters : )

[ashen obsidian]

Wow blizzard really doesn’t like warriors.

[wheat jay]

What do you mean

Cool set

Look at Hunters lmao

Or mages

[ashen obsidian]

U like this “look”?

Minecraft stone shoulders

[wheat jay]

Ye

Still looks good imo

Not amazing

But its a decent set

[ashen obsidian]

Monk is best set. Wish warrior got it

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/template_resource/H3GY6ATHMDOQ1645641372462.jpg

Shredder

[sharp meteor]

Oh, yeah. The physics on the shoulder bits are super cool.

[wet scarab]

The warrior one looks crap on most races but it’s far from being the worst one

[sage raptor]

Rogue is the best imo

That helmet 👌

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I'm digging the rogue set.

[lucid walrus]

just need a better race

[plain wing]

@wheat jay view it on a worgen

[wheat jay]

Ok but who the fuck plays worgen

If someone plays worgen I assume they have mental issues

[plain wing]

The set looks so fucking bad hahahaha

Especially when you acknowledge the fact its a tier set. Supposed to be the most prestigious gear in the game

[minor vector]

banner and darkflight stacking is v funny

[plain wing]

When you look at the elite set it straight up looks like leveling gear from bastion hahahah. The sets actoss the board (aside from a few) are actually so piss poor looking.

Roblox lookin ass

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz all the past sets are pieces of art lmao

[lucid walrus]

oldschool sets are bangers

[wheat jay]

Not all of them that's for sure

Some were dogshit

[lucid walrus]

ruthless and cataclysmic elite are pretty solid imo

[wheat jay]

Well some were amazing that's for sure

But for example t2 sucks

[lucid walrus]

yeah it's not a 100% thing

this class generally has it pretty good though

[wheat jay]

Yep

I think Hunters and shamans usually get bad sets

9.2 its hunter with terrible set

[lucid walrus]

it's unfortunate too bc you'd think shaman would get cool ones

[wheat jay]

Shaman got an amazing set in 9.2

[sharp meteor]

sham looks great especially on orc

[wheat jay]

Ye

[lucid walrus]

i forget if i've seen that one

this goes hard wtf

[wheat jay]

Love the lingerie pants on this set

[sharp meteor]

mythic set looks a bit too regal

[wheat jay]

So hot

[sharp meteor]

i like the elite one

[wheat jay]

Mrrrau

[sage raptor]

I say the same thing when they play alliance in general.

[near delta]

I hate how plain the color is for the elite sets lol. It's like they just took the mythic sets and made them gray.

[wet scarab]

This is all a ploy to punish us for demanding they bring back tier sets

[sharp meteor]

i mean back in the day tier sets could be like your mortal strike does 10% more damage

i can understand the headache of trying to not only come up with new and interesting ones but keeping them balanced across three different types of endgame

[wet scarab]

I meant the look

[vocal frigate]

God dammit ret paladins make me rage

38K shield of vengeance

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor youre assuming blizz cared at all about balancing tiers for pvp hahaha

[sharp meteor]

They are going to apply pvp modifiers to ones that cause issues, yeah.

[plain wing]

I love pvp, only thing i really do now

But its an afterthought

In wow desifn

Design*

[oblique mountain]

someone just told me we got nerfed

i havent played in 3 weeks and no patrch notes yet

[sharp meteor]

dstance got beaten with a bat

[oblique mountain]

Did they at least say nice things while they did it?

[sharp meteor]

yeah they were like "btw we're buffing rmp rofl"

[near delta]

Smexx said on stream he's officially a fury boi now lol

[sharp meteor]

yeah haven't played a match as arms yet i just swapped to fury

[oblique mountain]

so fury>arms now??\

[lucid walrus]

not necessarily

[grand scaffold]

yup

[steep inlet]

no

without set clearly no atm

[undone pumice]

i feel like prot can be ok

but only vs all physical dmg like other warriors

prot has garbage magic mitigation

[plain wing]

Holy shit teapot went fury

Thats insane

Wild time bous

Boys

Maybe im doing it wrong, but i still do more dam as arms

Especially in cleave situations

Like a lot more

Fury wet noodle

[sharp meteor]

i hadn't played it in a while and wanted to make sure my binds and whatnot are all squeaky clean

[earnest thorn]

Man unhinged with storm of destruction feels real beefy

Imagine throwing the Elysian might on top of that oof

[sharp meteor]

makes bladestorming to dodge cc feel super bad

[earnest thorn]

Yeah unforch

[nimble jasper]

o

jungle was struggling

[sharp meteor]

hunter ready to commit some war crimes this patch

[near delta]

I mean that makes tunneling the hunter more viable right?

[sharp meteor]

Hm?

[near delta]

Oh fuck

[sharp meteor]

This is just so the hunter isn't forced to break CC with his ks procs.

[near delta]

Forgot that's the venthyr leggo

Jesus

[sharp meteor]

Like a complaint could be "hey when i play hunter people stack on their healer now i fcleave them and my traps break"

[near delta]

I was thinking they'd use that instead of feign but they'll have both

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, craven+pouch is gonna be terrible to deal with

[near delta]

It's absurd they did this whole 2 leggos with one cov leggo but didn't really rebalance shitty cov leggos at all

But that's blizz ig

[undone pumice]

the dact

they let you craft cov leggo before this

and now all the money spejt on it is wasted

literally wtf

[scarlet barn]

Wait for now

[scarlet barn]

Stop pushing your Fury agenda when all you have for now is your gut feeling and fury in name

[elder wigeon]

[quasi lotus]

smh BigFury pushing their agenda and driving leggo prices up for your average man!!!

[grand scaffold]

smexxin busy playing fury

[quasi lotus]

its new patch, everyone tried fury at start of last one as well

[grand scaffold]

yea

but arms didnt get nerfs last patch

just buffs

[scarlet barn]

And fury didnt get any pvp buffs

your point?

[grand scaffold]

fury pressure is higher

arms is just as squishy now

aside from ignore pain

[scarlet barn]

https://youtu.be/mFdmIW0MzcA?t=127

🙃

[undone pumice]

kekw

[scarlet barn]

Fury is still squishy as it was

[undone pumice]

fury 4p is just gonna make it on par with arms 100%

[scarlet barn]

I mean very likely more people will fury in pvp

But fundementals still werent adressed for it

[graceful quarry]

we will see once ssn starts

[undone pumice]

like

[graceful quarry]

i doubt many ppl will play fury

[undone pumice]

if u want to play fury play fury

[scarlet barn]

Sure

You can play Sword and Bord fury if you want idc

But doesnt mean you should tell others to do the same 🙃

[undone pumice]

i tell peiple to play fury because its arguably easier

also has better transmog

[grand scaffold]

i tell people because arms is boring af

[fickle forge]

Yeah but like

You've got subjective vs objective stuff

And you're literally saying you're telling people that fury is superior because you personally find arms boring

That's misleading man

[steep inlet]

You are clearly misleading it’s getting sad ndogo

Stop this propaganda

[undone pumice]

ndogo is alliance too we arent supposed to trust him

[grand scaffold]

haha lmao

other reason i tell people is because i had more success playing fury than arms

and that isnt a lie

[graceful quarry]

your success is tied to playing with a 3k cr druid

[undone pumice]

choose your adventure

[raw summit]

Arm fun

No execute cd

[grand scaffold]

that might be so

but i also played arms with him

and didnt get very high

i was 2.2k hardstuck

[undone pumice]

if u play with a healer as a warrior ur carried by the healer

[raw summit]

If u cant 2400 as arm rdu then something isnt being done right

Prenerf anyways

[grand scaffold]

i just did better as fury

thats all

[undone pumice]

1.8k arms could probably get 2400 with a 2400 healer

[raw summit]

Ye if u never arm

Dont expect to play a good arm

[undone pumice]

true

[graceful quarry]

ahould namechange to ndogoarms

[fickle forge]

It's still like, subjective you know

[graceful quarry]

and get 3k cr

[grand scaffold]

bro

ndogo means small in swahili

[graceful quarry]

well

[grand scaffold]

so if i said ndogo arms

[graceful quarry]

fits you then

[grand scaffold]

it sounds funny

[raw summit]

All im saying arm was better for sure

[fickle forge]

Every R1 warr out here saying arms will most likely still be better, and then Ndogo's out here saying fury is better because of his 2.4k adventures

[undone pumice]

small fury

[raw summit]

Now however we shall see

[undone pumice]

the fact 2.4k is considered low elo

[fickle forge]

Compared to 3k+

[graceful quarry]

i mean it is

[fickle forge]

Relatively speaking yes

[graceful quarry]

if you look at %

[raw summit]

2400 as more diff to r1 than 1400 to 2400

OMEGALUL

[undone pumice]

yeah

[raw summit]

Since maro hit 3800

[grand scaffold]

i made the name small fury because i made a gnome fury warrior]

lmao

[raw summit]

⛽

Shitty pump

[undone pumice]

its just crazy to think 4k isnt gonna be far away

[raw summit]

Wanted air pump

[graceful quarry]

can someone get me the venruki % cutoff post

[raw summit]

For inflation

[raw summit]

Gnome

They look to weird for me to play tbh

[undone pumice]

gnome is bis

[raw summit]

Make an orc

Bigarms

[grand scaffold]

i was orc before

i dont like horde

😐

[graceful quarry]

make a bald gnome

tyler1

[steep inlet]

Dont take this example inflation doesn’t work like that

[undone pumice]

orc > gnome > human > panda > everything else

[steep inlet]

Ludus lab explained it

[fickle forge]

Ye

[steep inlet]

Everybody took 300 cr not 1000

[graceful quarry]

well, where is ludus now

[fickle forge]

Though it's a bit special that the average rating is elite set

So elite

[grand scaffold]

facts

[raw summit]

If everything is gonna go normally

We'll never see 3800 again

[undone pumice]

i think just 3k + should only be the very best players

not randoms who are just top 10%

[grand scaffold]

well

if somebody gets that high

[steep inlet]

It’s not top 10% ffs

[grand scaffold]

they kinda are the best

[steep inlet]

Inflation doesn’t work like that

It’s like top 2-3%

[grand scaffold]

the more players = higher cr cap

[lucid walrus]

sec

[undone pumice]

thats not what i mean

i want awc players at 3k+

[steep inlet]

The venruki post is bullshit

[undone pumice]

[steep inlet]

Omg someone link this ludus post lab

[graceful quarry]

is it tho

[lucid walrus]

@graceful quarry https://twitter.com/ElliottVenczel/status/1494018907438411776?s=20&t=hY0rkzSSa1lTDI44d3ghXQ this one?

C9 venruki (@ElliottVenczel)

If end-of-season rewards were calculated like they used to be, current cut-offs for NA Horde titles would be:

Rank 1: 3315
Gladiator: 2901
Duelist: 2509
Rival: 2125

That means if you were 2500 rated you'd be a rival.

Definitely puts the level of inflation in perspective.

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Twitter · Feb 16, 2022, 6:40 PM

[graceful quarry]

its merely going by % cutoff

[graceful quarry]

ty

[steep inlet]

Pure shit

[lucid walrus]

i'd have to look for the one about alts

[steep inlet]

https://luduslabs.org/articles/rating-inflation-and-reward-structure

[lucid walrus]

kk cool

[lean island]

since i have kyri at max renown wich covenant is better to lvl during capaign?

[steep inlet]

True stats

[fickle forge]

This one?
https://luduslabs.org/articles/rating-inflation-and-reward-structure

[steep inlet]

Yeah

[undone pumice]

necro

[lean island]

thanks

[lucid walrus]

necro campaign feels relatively quick

[graceful quarry]

i mean

[fickle forge]

Lmao

[graceful quarry]

thats still a large inflation

[fickle forge]

Gladiatorial Chasm

[lucid walrus]

why'd they make it sound so ominous

"fuck bro we gotta push outta the chasm"

[graceful quarry]

karg wouldnt have gotten glad without inflation

[quasi lotus]

[fickle forge]

[undone pumice]

[steep inlet]

Tbh I went to 2800+ mmr this season and there was a mix of good and sometimes shit players

mostly good

[graceful quarry]

what cr were u last ssn

[steep inlet]

2550 in June in the deflation

500 games per day

[graceful quarry]

per day

what

[steep inlet]

Yep

[fickle forge]

Per day

[graceful quarry]

are you okay

[lucid walrus]

have y'all looked at xuna's NA charts

[steep inlet]

500 games by day in all Europe guys

[graceful quarry]

oh

[undone pumice]

per ray

how

[steep inlet]

So we fought only gods

[fickle forge]

The great draught yeah

Method on 2.4k

Good times

[steep inlet]

At 2600 we fought 3400 players

It was disgusting

[lucid walrus]

pretty par for the course here right?

[steep inlet]

Hardest season I ever done of my life

[steep inlet]

Fought bolderno etc at 2600

Was crazy

[graceful quarry]

but whats more of a meme tho

s2 slands

or

s4 bfa

[wheat jay]

Bfa cuz corruptions

[steep inlet]

S2 SL

[lucid walrus]

bfa will forever have the corruption novelty going for it

[steep inlet]

More inflation

Than BFA s4

[quasi lotus]

depends whether you played warrior or dh/lock

[graceful quarry]

i remember when i was still a woyer main

the good old days

[lucid walrus]

sometimes i remember that playing warr into dh or lock in 2s just meant an auto-loss a lot of the time

then realized that's what several other classes felt playing into us in seasons 1 & 2

[fickle forge]

I wanna say BFA, but SL S2 DH erased my memories of BFA DH

[graceful quarry]

oh well

at least the execute dmg stayed the same

since bfa

[lucid walrus]

still >20k lol

[graceful quarry]

bfa was a dark time

[lucid walrus]

real trenches

[fickle forge]

The true gladiatorial chasm

[lucid walrus]

least we had trusty 20% d-stance and 3sec reflect. 3min wall in 10min games though? eugh

[steep inlet]

And Warrior BFA s4 was total horseshit

[graceful quarry]

did i hear 10min game

[steep inlet]

No dmgs

[graceful quarry]

time to remind karg

[steep inlet]

No interv

[graceful quarry]

of the alliance 3s

[steep inlet]

No big exec

[graceful quarry]

we played

where he healed

[lucid walrus]

no vene and no IP

disgust

well technically IP if you played bastion of might lmfao

[steep inlet]

yeah

[graceful quarry]

also

luduslabs should have an onlyfans

[steep inlet]

BFA s4 Warrior demanded guts

[graceful quarry]

called lewduslabs

[steep inlet]

Was fucking hard mode

[graceful quarry]

anyways, pizza time

[wheat jay]

+1

Gonna get one too

[graceful quarry]

pizza hawaii

poggers

[wheat jay]

Chicken+corn for me

[knotty tangle]

@graceful quarry

[graceful quarry]

yeah

[scarlet barn]

yeah

[wheat jay]

yeah

[warped warren]

yeah

[fickle forge]

yeah

[elder wigeon]

the tabards are real now

[knotty tangle]

Imagine wanting more items in ur bank/bags

[warped warren]

wtf

pog

[elder wigeon]

when it's your first tabard you tend to want it be a real thing

[warped warren]

fr fr

[undone pumice]

p o g

[echo anvil]

Question (speculation of course) - is Venthyr warrior dead? Been out a good few months and come back for a little itch and wondered if 3s / 2s arena I need to change to Kyrian/Necro?

[undone pumice]

i cant find the abards tho

[elder wigeon]

yes venthyr warrior is very dead

[bright stream]

for enduring blow - haste/vers or crit/vers?

[echo anvil]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[elder wigeon]

condemn sucks hard and was the squishiest covenant for warrior prior to 9.2 and with warrior durability getting nerfed with this patch, I'd stay away from venthyr as much as possible

I like haste as prio if playing enduring blow

[undone pumice]

h o w

is nightfae less squishy

seed?

[elder wigeon]

you can actually press ignore pain

and survivor's rally helps a bit

[undone pumice]

bis macro

/cast ignore pain
7cast condemn

[grand scaffold]

80 rage

in 1 gcd

oof

[undone pumice]

bis macro

fury uses 85 in 1 gcd

[grand scaffold]

no

just 80

but we have fast rage generation

[undone pumice]

skullsplitter is bis

[echo anvil]

so for my team DH/War/rDruid - what cov should I go?

[undone pumice]

kyrian or necro

[elder wigeon]

likely kyrian

mastery isn't that huge for DH and kyrian is the best covenant for warrior if playing a comp where buffing your teammate isn't part of what makes it work

double legendary for kyrian is significantly better than necrolord

[undone pumice]

but necrolord 1 shot :D

[grand scaffold]

so does kyrian

[elder wigeon]

glory straight up sucks for arms, better for fury, but not good

[grand scaffold]

the pressure is high af

[elder wigeon]

having enduring + EM is pretty nuts

[grand scaffold]

i actually find kyrian warriors a lot scarier than necro ones

yeah

[undone pumice]

necro is scary because hes fast

[grand scaffold]

kyrian

you cant run

[elder wigeon]

and since warrior mobility got nerfed a bit via death sentence being a shit talent, kyrian just became more desirable

[bright stream]

seems like most people go haste/vers>crit/vers on the legos

thought people were playing crit>haste in general with arms for pvp

[grand scaffold]

crit vers only for kyrian

and venthyr

every other cov is haste

[elder wigeon]

nobody agrees on the best stats or even trinkets

[bright stream]

ahhhh that's interesting

[elder wigeon]

it depends on who you ask, all of the top warriors all played different shit and got the same or similar results

Smexxin played 5% crit all season and is one of the best warriors in the world

[undone pumice]

bounding stride is bis

[elder wigeon]

I personally like a mix of haste/crit generally speaking, but if I had to pick one to stack over the other I'll pick haste every time

[bright stream]

has anyone played full haste vs full crit?

[undone pumice]

i played full crit kyrian it was funny

[bright stream]

just randomly fucking kids people?

[grand scaffold]

full crit is nice if you playing necro or kyrian

you hit big hits with execute

and mortal strike here and there

haste does more consistant tho

[undone pumice]

you just randomly commit nuclear levels of damage

randomly turn into melee fire mage eks dee

[grand scaffold]

yea

just go 1 stat

whatever you prefer

[bright stream]

damn slot machine or calculated

tough call

[grand scaffold]

haste feels meh in terms of burst

[elder wigeon]

I've played full haste/crit as both kyrian and necrolord and haste felt the best every time

[grand scaffold]

but it defo makes it more fun to play arms

[undone pumice]

more gcds in burst

[bright stream]

I'll go haste I think

[undone pumice]

if u go haste

[grand scaffold]

i like crit for necro tbh

big executes feel awesome

[elder wigeon]

play what you like

[grand scaffold]

^

[bright stream]

the hardest part will be finding people to queue with lmao

[elder wigeon]

why's that?

[bright stream]

aussie - cant play with americans during peak as thats our working hours

[formal summit]

Are people still using Dstance like before?

[raw summit]

Dont think bounding stride is better

[grand scaffold]

people still using d stance

it just makes less of a difference

[undone pumice]

its just worse

[grand scaffold]

^

[frigid bear]

I'll be glad to not have my damage reduced and put more pressure on the healer seeing as they want to nerf d stance

heal me bossman. im going in

[grand scaffold]

they need to make d stance 10% less dmg done

10% less dmg taken

bit more balanced

[frigid bear]

I'll be going bounding for sure

[grand scaffold]

i think d stance still best

i do wonder how second wind is compared to d stance tho

could be good in 1v1 situations

or against rogue mage

where they have to reset

but idk

d stance still bis i think

[frigid bear]

WTB TBC Second Winds. Health regen during stuns ❤️

I'd take that in a heart beat

[grand scaffold]

we need MoP second wind

2% per second

[frigid bear]

All this is irrelevant anyway. Prot warrior is the new meta. 50k shield slam crits

[grand scaffold]

eh

i dont think prot warrior gonna be meta

but yeah

its a nutty se bonus

set*

[frigid bear]

African Turtle Cleave is back

[grand scaffold]

wtf is that

[frigid bear]

Hunter / Prot War / Holy Pala

[grand scaffold]

interesting

its like a wierd KFC

in what xpac was that good

[bright stream]

cata

or mop

I think was when it first appeared

[elder wigeon]

african turtle cleave is a tbc/wrath thing

[undone pumice]

african turtle cleave

wtf

is that name

why are all the names nowadays dogshit

[elder wigeon]

back when arena was super fresh and people were popularizing comps, they just came up with funny names most of the times

more or less for non meta comps

[undone pumice]

african turtle cleave, jungle, the stone gauntlet, kfc, kitty

wtf are these names bro

[bright stream]

ebola and hero class cleave are both great names

[grand scaffold]

wtf is ebole cleave lmao

[bright stream]

unholy/feral

[grand scaffold]

is that UHdk affy lock?

i was close

[undone pumice]

EBOLA CLEAVE

[raw summit]

Sounds like aids, the comp

[bright stream]

nah unholy/aff is scleave/shadow cleave

[undone pumice]

[grand scaffold]

imagine

if you did

UHdk

affy

lock

and sp

[elder wigeon]

ebola cleave, aids cleave

[grand scaffold]

in 3's

sounds crazy

[raw summit]

Until you face mw

[undone pumice]

wtf is aids cleave

[elder wigeon]

feral aff iirc

[bright stream]

thugs another good one

[undone pumice]

i will pioneer autism cleave

sub /fury

[bright stream]

isnt that just 2 frostmages?

[undone pumice]

no

[grand scaffold]

the most annoying comp i fought

was outlaw rogue + warrior

annoying af

nothing dies

[undone pumice]

outlaw + fury

cancer

[grand scaffold]

its a lot of dmg

and a lot of tankiness

[undone pumice]

like my problem is

i refuse to roll anything except warrior

[grand scaffold]

WHY

[undone pumice]

and my brother refuses to roll anything except sub rogue

because we are braindamaged

[grand scaffold]

tell him to play outlaw

and do fury outlaw

[undone pumice]

fury outlaw in 2s

[elder wigeon]

rerolling is just giving up on another, you can multiclass

[undone pumice]

kek

[grand scaffold]

or even arms outlaw

eh

i mean in 3's

[undone pumice]

i dont want to play the other classes

[elder wigeon]

I'll never reroll off of warrior, but I will multiclass if warrior isn't particularly viable for some reason

[undone pumice]

i picked warrior because i was told it was simple

[elder wigeon]

not exactly

[bright stream]

its simple to pick up

fo sure

[undone pumice]

warrior is simple

press mortal strike

press overpower

press ignore pain

[elder wigeon]

every class is simple

[raw summit]

If we can artificier class next expac we can play "shart cleave" of sp and artificer

[undone pumice]

maintain hamstrinf and press execute when it flashes

[elder wigeon]

you can boil any class down to that

[grand scaffold]

surv hunter and rogue are not simple

far from it

[undone pumice]

warrior has significantly

[elder wigeon]

different skill sets required, don't confuse it

[raw summit]

Rogue is just press stun and blades and kill

[undone pumice]

less buttons than every other class afaik

[raw summit]

No?

I think dh has few

[grand scaffold]

dh is easiest class in the game

thats a fact

[elder wigeon]

sub rogue damage rotation is the most brain dead on the planet, all you have to do is track DR's and coordinate goes with your teammates

[raw summit]

Like we can disarm duel Banner n all that stuff

[undone pumice]

dh has some weird combo point system and im scared

[elder wigeon]

what? no

[raw summit]

I thought they only had fury

[elder wigeon]

they do only have fury

[raw summit]

Like rogue energy

Monk has combo points

[elder wigeon]

more like warrior rage

[undone pumice]

and druid messes up my action bars so i dont play one

[raw summit]

Kickpoints

[undone pumice]

monk has chi right

[grand scaffold]

i find shape shifting tough

[raw summit]

Druid only playable with base ui

Tbh

[elder wigeon]

yes

[raw summit]

Fucks up elvui

[undone pumice]

i use bt4

and leatrix+

death knight has weird runes and necrotic energy

[raw summit]

Tbh p easy

Runes and runic Power

Runes make runic Power

And runic Power gives back runes

[undone pumice]

??

[raw summit]

Essentially keep 3 runes recharging and hold 40+ Power

That's it

[elder wigeon]

if you think dk is hard now go play dk when you had to convert runes and had 3 types of runes

[undone pumice]

when?

[elder wigeon]

dk is certified brain dead compared to mop

[undone pumice]

wrath?

tgats the thing

[raw summit]

Wrath they had 2 uh 2 frost 2 blood runes

[undone pumice]

i didnt play this game until legion

[elder wigeon]

legion zoomers thinking classes are hard kek

[undone pumice]

bro

listen

game hard ok

[elder wigeon]

nah game easy, hardest thing to learn about a class is playstyle not mechanics

[undone pumice]

yeah it will be easy to grasp hoe a class works

if i actually played one but like

why bother

i play the simplest class

for my simple and feeble mind

[glossy island]

Mancleave time baby bonus points for lumberjack cleave

One kyrian one necro

[runic galleon]

what legendary should I invest in rn, I have unhinged and kings

[undone pumice]

enduring blow

[runic galleon]

ok ty

[finite fox]

Except back then you could just ghoul explode and win

[warped warren]

true 😂

[wet scarab]

re: full haste/full crit, both felt fine on kyrian, I think I did more damage overall as full haste but was less likely to randomly gib with a good proc

although I lost a lot more to enemy warriors when I was crit

crit necro felt like garbage uptime for me

[nimble jasper]

wasn't ghoul explode bfa/legion

[grand scaffold]

Whats the fastest way of gearing alts rn?

[sage raptor]

Ghouls explode goes wayyyyy back

[grand scaffold]

theres a lego that makes you do that rn

[sage raptor]

There was also a 4th rune called a death rune that could be used as either an UH/Frost/Blood rune.

[grand scaffold]

?

dang

well i got a ret at 227 is there a way to get it to like 246 quickly?

[nimble jasper]

deathrunes were generated from blood tap tbh

[grand scaffold]

i dont pve tho 😢

[nimble jasper]

after using regular runes

[grand scaffold]

does anybody know if sub rogue or assa is looking to be stronger

assa is gonna be annoying if its bis

[spice hornet]

assass is looking like how it was in bfa s4

insane damage

easy to playt

way easier than sub

[grand scaffold]

thats cool

is sub gonna be better tho?

[nimble jasper]

prob in rmp

[fickle forge]

Allow us to look into the crystal ball for that one

[nimble jasper]

too many stuns on demand

[spice hornet]

Sub is pretty limited into RMP and thug

to*

[nimble jasper]

I mean you didnt really have many other options to begin with

[fickle forge]

There you go

[spice hornet]

assass can play RMP, RPS, RLS...and it is easier to play. Sub was fine in bfa s4. But assassination was simply easier

[nimble jasper]

RPS opted to play assass

[spice hornet]

you literally W key and kidney outside of DR and just win on dmg, isntead of having to triple CC like with sub

[fickle forge]

At least we'll go back to having easy kidneys to bladestorm

[nimble jasper]

sometimes sub rmp you just kidney too

just wait on the chastise fear

and db sheep

on the other 2

[fickle forge]

Says more about holy priest than sub though

[nimble jasper]

look at me guys my brain is huge

i can coun down from 3

I mean yeah, but its always funny watching 1600 players complain about getting 3 people cheapshotted

cuz realistically it doesnt work that way vs players w/ brains

[scarlet barn]

Thank you magic man

[spice hornet]

i like when

our team has traded correctly and we kill fire mage

but since all our trinkets are on CD

the rogue just CCs everyone

an d the mage survives seed

[plain wing]

whatre the go to conduits for fury?

and leggo?

[grand scaffold]

ill tell you

[spice hornet]

every fury ive seen is using signet

[grand scaffold]

then

signet on ring with haste vers

haste enchants and gems

[plain wing]

haste vers? ok cool

those are diff conduits than icy veins recommends

so thanks for the tips!

[grand scaffold]

np bro

😄

[spice hornet]

icy veins is a meme

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Icy Veins is horrible

[scarlet barn]

[spice hornet]

It's only decent for like

[plain wing]

i just need a second weapon now

[spice hornet]

pve rotations and enchants

[scarlet barn]

Did you check the guide writer in icy veins?

[spice hornet]

but even then its better for pve'rs to dive into logs and see what the best people are doing in partiuclar on fihgts

[grand scaffold]

lemme know if you have any problems im always happy to help

[spice hornet]

Lol no

who is it

[scarlet barn]

Ah well

Nevermind then

[spice hornet]

Isn'

Isn't it Arch?

[plain wing]

im guessing you prioritize Raging blow>bloodthirst after rampage?

[spice hornet]

Pretty sure he writes the warrior guides and posts it everywhere

[plain wing]

@grand scaffold thanks brooo

[grand scaffold]

😄

[raw summit]

in pve you prio rb charge 2 over bt over rb 1 over ww

exe above all

[scarlet barn]

You prio smashing buttons

You literally

Unga bunga

[raw summit]

if not enraged bt>rb

[scarlet barn]

As fury

[full quiver]

bro

[grand scaffold]

nah

[full quiver]

if you were malding as arms last season

[grand scaffold]

you do bloodthirst first

[spice hornet]

dont know how people find fury fun in pvp

[full quiver]

you will literally kill yourself

trying to play fury

[scarlet barn]

No

[grand scaffold]

and do raging blow till rampage

[spice hornet]

literally fight a jungle or r/m and youll want to kill yourself

[full quiver]

lol

[grand scaffold]

razonko do you play fury

[spice hornet]

you just die to pve dmg

[scarlet barn]

Ndogo again at it

[fierce elm]

fury boys out when Arms gets 1 nerd

[raw summit]

if u cant play the game right changing the spec wont help

[fierce elm]

Remember s1 end

[fickle forge]

Oh yes

[scarlet barn]

With 4 set you will almost never press BT btw

[fickle forge]

SLAUGHTERHOUSE BROKEN?!?!

[full quiver]

lol

oops

[full quiver]

lol

[fierce elm]

and s2 start?

huh

[fickle forge]

GUYS ARMS JUST GOT 2% NERF TO SLAM, IS FURY VIABLE NOW?!?!

[plain wing]

yea im just worried playing fury will make me even more rusty as arms

[raw summit]

thats why im not swapping of farms

[fierce elm]

Fury was gonna be so good with the MS effect on rampage

remember that

THEN FURY WAS SHIT

[full quiver]

bruin

[fickle forge]

Okay bruski, but 60% MS with 1 Rampage was also busted af

[grand scaffold]

haha

[full quiver]

based on the footage in gameplay review

[raw summit]

that one bajheera video where it seemed good

[grand scaffold]

a 2% nerf to slam

[raw summit]

[scarlet barn]

You prio BT when not enraged. After that spam RB to keep up enrage buff

[full quiver]

i don't think playing fury will be a problem for you

[plain wing]

@fickle forge to be fair, fury with 4 pc and necro is looking to be like the highest ST damage in the game (or 2nd)...... its nutty. But prolly will get tuned

[spice hornet]

i already knows hes gonna rage

[full quiver]

lol

[spice hornet]

first week of season

[scarlet barn]

In pvp scenario rb extends it

[spice hornet]

30 posts in a row

[nimble jasper]

idk im excited for season 2 of bruinz mald rants

[fickle forge]

Those are PvE sims my man

[nimble jasper]

are you not?

[spice hornet]

OH MY FUCKING GOD, JUST FUCK THIS GAME. NO MATTER WHAT I DO I JUST LOSE. SERIOUSLY

[fickle forge]

I guarantee you, you can smash as hard as you want, but you won't ever beat DH

[fierce elm]

same lmao

[spice hornet]

FUCK

[plain wing]

@scarlet barn yea but you're enraged after rampage

[full quiver]

"IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK 1800. WAS 2100 LAST SEASON"

[scarlet barn]

Yes

[spice hornet]

I AM LITERALLY GOING DOWN IN RATING

[grand scaffold]

razonko just enraged period

[scarlet barn]

So you RB

[spice hornet]

NO MATTER WHAT

[plain wing]

@fickle forge yes i know... but high ST damage translates to pvp my man.

[full quiver]

lol

[fickle forge]

Uh

Not sure about that one pal

[fierce elm]

Lmao

[scarlet barn]

Only at fake news people

[full quiver]

lol

[fierce elm]

Explain how Arms was mid/low in pve for a long time

[grand scaffold]

why you not mad at yourself bro

[leaden hawk]

bruh fury sims rely on almost perfect uptime on a patchwerk fight

[fierce elm]

but S in pvp

[leaden hawk]

lets see how that translates to pvp

[nimble jasper]

it works at 1400

[scarlet barn]

That is next level response

[nimble jasper]

where people let you w key on them

[fickle forge]

WHY ISN'T MY BANNER GOOD AGAINST FROST MAGE?!

[plain wing]

oh my malding is gonna be insane this patch

[full quiver]

based on my gameplay in fury mage tower

[plain wing]

season*

[full quiver]

there is no way i can play pvp as fury

[nimble jasper]

and you choose

[full quiver]

lmao

[nimble jasper]

to engage in it

[plain wing]

Im gonna have the blood pressure of a 60 year old chain smoking alcoholic.

Easily

[fickle forge]

Ever thought about like

Not playing?

Seems unhealthy af for you

[plain wing]

but i like wow my guy

[grand scaffold]

bro you dont get pvp talents cov benefits or even lego abilities stats also scale down

[raw summit]

do you enjoy punching through your drywall

every game

[plain wing]

not so much

[grand scaffold]

mage tower not accurate

[fickle forge]

Bruin and WoW is like @fierce elm and OHP

[scarlet barn]

@plain wing enduring rage pvp talent makes your raging blow extend enrage. So if you are enraged and rspecially when you get tier set, you will prio rb above bt when enraged

[fierce elm]

My OHP IS GOOD NOW

IT JUST ANGERS ME

[scarlet barn]

Ah well

[plain wing]

@grand scaffold do you run siegebreaker ever?

[grand scaffold]

no its a horrible talent

its really trash

reckless abandon is the only real option

[plain wing]

copy

[scarlet barn]

[plain wing]

thanks boss

[grand scaffold]

😄

[scarlet barn]

Its not horrible talent fyi

[grand scaffold]

it kinda is compared to other talents

fyi

[raw summit]

you know what also helps with fury bruin

[scarlet barn]

Having 2.9 k healer?

[raw summit]

get urself a 3k xp healer friend

yes

[grand scaffold]

yeah i play with a good healer

so what

[raw summit]

i envy you

thats all

;)

[scarlet barn]

*i get carried by good healer

Sorry fixed for you

[grand scaffold]

yo razonko

whats your xp

[fickle forge]

Unholy DK is insane in 2s guys
You just need a 3.3k xp healer that can do 3k dps alright

[raw summit]

i wish i had the gold to pay for that

[fierce elm]

lmao

[scarlet barn]

My experience with you is sad so far

[spice hornet]

uhdk rdruid is pretty annoying to fight in2s tho

as a warr

without a druid

[grand scaffold]

haha thats a good one

[fickle forge]

Annoying yes

[grand scaffold]

cant lie

[fickle forge]

Certain victory? Also yes

[spice hornet]

they can win on mana if theyh are good

[fickle forge]

There's no way

DK takes the D from arms

Wanna drain mana? You gotta go in and do deeps

[nimble jasper]

playing with bad healers is stressful tbh

you feel like you have to babysit 75% of the game

[spice hornet]

yep but the only uh i was ever fighting in 2s was petkick

[grand scaffold]

i fought petkick

that guy cranks

i beat him 2/3 times

3rd time i got my ass kicked

[fickle forge]

You mean the guy who claims all DKs in all of NA are thrash and DK is actually a good class?

[spice hornet]

sometimes he plays with 3-girl healers

e-girl* lol

[nimble jasper]

oh

[spice hornet]

so you jsut run them down

[nimble jasper]

those are easy w's

lmao

[fickle forge]

3-girl healers

[full quiver]

when i was getting my alt war 2.1 i queued into petkick

thought i pressed parry when i hadn't and lost in like 20s

was pretty funny

[nimble jasper]

I don't think I've beat him playing with a real healer

tho

[spice hornet]

yeah he played with some sweaty ass rdruid one time and it was miserable

[full quiver]

yeah im 1-2 vs him

if you're playing with a duelist healer and the enemy has an rdruid that's like 2700+xp it's cancer

[nimble jasper]

thankfully

most rdruids play like they belong at 1600

[full quiver]

probably a lot easier now that you can kill druids through regen

i like how flark is saying he stopped 4 weeks before cutoff

when i watched mud queue into him like a week before it lol

[spice hornet]

was mud still palying with rex

[full quiver]

was playing with baldbaby and a healer i didnt recognize

[twilit ridge]

Got carried

@full quiver next Tuesday I get my title

It's over for you then

[full quiver]

😠

hey i'm multi glad warrior

smd raime

🤣

[near delta]

I guess he just never streams arenas cause malding rbgs are really good content. Everytime I've queued into him his stream was off.

[full quiver]

yeah i don't believe he stopped pushing 4 weeks out lol

[twilit ridge]

Who even r u

[sage raptor]

Well idk. You don't have to stop doing arenas if you're not pushing.

[twilit ridge]

Tbh if I streamed half my rbgs

[near delta]

True

[twilit ridge]

I would be famous for all the dumb shit people did

[sage raptor]

I'd be in big trouble if I streamed my rbgs

[twilit ridge]

same ngl

I used to play with edge lords

[full quiver]

yeah raime has super innapro language

🤣

[twilit ridge]

I'm racist, I used to main ret paladin

🤣

[undone pumice]

i would get banned in 3 frames if i started streaming

[sage raptor]

3am rbgs with the boys will lead to slurs.

[undone pumice]

all i do is scream at people

[twilit ridge]

I used to have a screenshot of an essay a dk wrote to me

[twilit ridge]

He was on my team and he got so mad that I said "no" to a swap

[undone pumice]

lmao

[twilit ridge]

I was just like "no rogue back out no cds"

[undone pumice]

i remember in a random bg some 23k hp blood dk said he was going to dox us all if we didnt capture waterworks in 3 minutes

[twilit ridge]

lmao

[sage raptor]

Ooooh he may have been me

[undone pumice]

were u panda

[sage raptor]

Get doxxed retard lololol

Nah

I kid

Undead4lyfe

[undone pumice]

ok

post my adress

[sage raptor]

Why? You don't know it?

[undone pumice]

no

pls tell me

[sage raptor]

Oh nyoooo

:c

Bet that sucks lul

[thick reef]

doxxers are cave dwellers

they leak my address then i call them to have a coffee together or smth and they shit themselves

[undone pumice]

there is coffe under your skin

tear it off and have a feast

[sage raptor]

Get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head

[nimble jasper]

speaking of trolling

best meme is getting a discord scammer dm you

and you just send a super nsfw picture as a response

[sage raptor]

Send em this

[nimble jasper]

yeah no

[sage raptor]

More fucked up than Chris Pratt playing Mario in Nintendo's upcoming Mario movie.

[fickle forge]

Also a death sentence to sream high cr 3s

Snipers sniping snipers

[sage raptor]

Staring Chris Pratt, Jack Black, Seth Rogan, Anya Taylor, Charlie Day, and more!

[near delta]

Lol yeah that makes sense

[barren crane]

If playing rm and your heals get sapped should u try to bs the opener? Or try saving it for something else

[fickle forge]

BS opener

Even if you don't get opened on, your healer now has incap DR and most of the time mage will come out of invis before it's off again

[heady olive]

Rm will probs dB sheep you when rogue saps

[fickle forge]

Depends who they wish to open on, either way it's a win for you if you manage to BS it

[barren crane]

I'm a low rated pleb so u never know what they'll do

Thx for tips

[wet scarab]

most low rated RM teams will completely collapse at the failure of the opener with bladestorm too

[undone pumice]

can u use saltwaters in rbg?

[near delta]

When you get the stun dr with the bs

[grand scaffold]

I dont think so

[ancient sonnet]

You cannot

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[ancient sonnet]

so is the sky falling with the d-stance nerfs?

[sharp meteor]

Perhaps.

[lucid walrus]

8-ball mystic wizardry time

[grand scaffold]

Is there any news on demo lock being nerfed?

[plain wing]

will be nerfed in 9.2.5 dont worry

oh wait, blizzard doesnt tune outside of major patches anymore LOL nvm

[sharp meteor]

they literally just hotfixed a bunch of stuff tho

[grand scaffold]

demo lock has to get nerfed

80k bolts are way too much

i cant believe they havent nerfed it already

even assa rogue

looks ridiculous

[raw summit]

you tried reflecting em?

[grand scaffold]

no

are double legos live or something?

[raw summit]

no

[grand scaffold]

how do you get unity on belt slot?

[scarlet barn]

Wait 4 more weeks

[plain wing]

at which point you should have the rep to unlock it for other slots as well.

and be able to choose your stats

[clever fern]

the best second legendary would be the mortal strike one r ?

[sharp meteor]

Maybe.

[fickle forge]

Perhaps.

[knotty tangle]

Possibly.

[lucid walrus]

potentially

[wet scarab]

demo lock seemed manageable a couple of months ago, what changed that actually made them so awful to play against

[sharp meteor]

they've been manageable most people just don't know what they do

so they sit there and eat two fully amped demon bolts

the tier might make them super crazy tho

[near delta]

I'm hoping these crazy double leggot/tier set interactions end up getting nerfed from AWC cup hijinks before they go live

[plain wing]

AWC will be W I L D

[near delta]

I'm here for it. Man imagine if they didn't catch the battle rez before that. lol

[lucid walrus]

rogue buddy showed me this ancient-ass talent. wonder if it'll stack w 4pc

[fickle forge]

It does

[plain wing]

Rogues are going to be so nasty.

boy o boy

[sharp meteor]

It will.

[fickle forge]

Implying they weren't already? 👀

[plain wing]

so nasty = nastier than nasty

pikaboo montages should be funny

wowdailyhighlights is going to be such good content start of season/ when people start getting 4 pc's

[round seal]

Prot is still most likely not going to be good , Supas video is misleading although I will give it a go to find out

[sharp meteor]

shambles

[fickle forge]

I can easily make it hit 40k though

First slam for 30k and the second one for 40k

[sage raptor]

Prot has been like this for a while

[wet scarab]

I mean the problem with stacking modifiers as prot and hitting 40k crit slams is they’ll be healed by the rdruid on the opposing team with one instant swiftmend like they do and then you wait for the next avatar

[sage raptor]

Nah. Rdudu sucks this patch.

How do I know? Because it came to me in a dream.

[frigid bear]

Are the pvp s2 sets still going to scale in s3?

[lucid walrus]

p sure. unranked gear scales a tiny bit higher than current duelist

[frigid bear]

I know that but that’s not what I asked

[frigid bear]

What is p sure 😂

[lucid walrus]

pretty sure. i am fairly certain world of warcraft 9.1 shadowlands season 2 gear will scale as it has for the entirety of unchained season

[frigid bear]

Ah kk, thank you