pvp

[nimble jasper]

and ranged

[twilit flax]

huh

[nimble jasper]

ranged survival

F

[floral ingot]

Ranged survival didn’t survive

[nimble jasper]

i mean technically

[twilit flax]

ranged survival was decent but its always been a skill matchup against mage

[nimble jasper]

half the time survival is ranged

[twilit flax]

leaning in hunter favor tho

[nimble jasper]

feral has always been

the biggest hardcounter tho

[floral ingot]

Auto attacks and raptor strike as the only melee abilities

[twilit flax]

feral is just a king at 1v1

[floral ingot]

And kick

[twilit flax]

they literally beat everything

[floral ingot]

[twilit flax]

feral is fun

[nimble jasper]

when powershifting existed

cant poly

cant root

or slow

gl

[twilit flax]

even at ferals worst they stil slap the 1v1s

in wod tho that was something else

some king shit

[floral ingot]

Feral is basically a rogue with good sustain, so yeah

[nimble jasper]

man

i love clips of venruki

getting 1 shot

its so amusing his reaction

[hushed plank]

Lmao right

[knotty tangle]

Looking at blizzcon?

[nimble jasper]

no

[twilit flax]

when i see people complain about feral healing

[nimble jasper]

even theres an SL beta one

[twilit flax]

i send them this

[nimble jasper]

where he dies to the rogue

before his alter goes off

from 100%

[twilit flax]

i get close and whisper in their ear

[nimble jasper]

that was basically like

[twilit flax]

[nimble jasper]

shaman AG

also reminder

wod ferals

had instant clone

and could do it from cat form

[twilit flax]

what was ag again

ans guidance

[spice hornet]

why does ATT not track ally covenant stuff

[twilit flax]

insta clone was toxic

[spice hornet]

when i tell it to

[midnight mirage]

Didnt say it was lol

[spice hornet]

how can you be these ratings with negative WL? wtf https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Sintimissi

[sharp meteor]

helped a friend get duelist last season with like a 40% wr because we queued with him on chars that were like 2600 intiailly

so bunch of losses but he never lost points because all the games were at like 2300-2400

that guy was also 200-300 points higher

so probably got his 2700 and has just been messin around

[knotty tangle]

Or he bought a glad boost, got 2.7, and dropped rating after he wanted to actually play the game

After looking at numbers, thats not very likely though

[wheat jay]

All about mmr, I had a 11-9 session and gained 90 rating :)

[sharp meteor]

https://www.arenamate.net/US/tichondrius/Aevintiri/history#!3v3

and yeah my gigarat alt warr queued with main partners

has the most scuffed looking history

[wheat jay]

Ye xd

All about mmr

Big winstreak

Get +16 per win

Lose 0 or 9 per loss xD

[knotty tangle]

And mmr is busted af this season

[wheat jay]

Season is one thing

Winstreaks is another

[sharp meteor]

uhh it's inflated because super long

[knotty tangle]

Meh felt like inflated all season to me

Could be im getting better, and seeing more mistakes in others gameplay

[sharp meteor]

yeah i used to only play 2s for elite sets and it got easier and easier, eventually sat down and did 3s and it's like oh why was i scared to do this

[nimble jasper]

its a twitter egirl

plays with r1s p often

she plays like an 1800 priest

[sharp meteor]

o shambles

[nimble jasper]

fade piss

fly piss

its funny

[wheat jay]

Lol same

Elite set was good enough

Now im glad xd

[knotty tangle]

Im still at elite set level, maybe i will grow up sometime

[sharp meteor]

I'm in purgatory

glad too easy, r1 too hard

[scarlet barn]

glad is izi

famous last words of ex SF

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, post-legion glad is free and I'm annoyed that I didn't get all the BFA ones because I love proto drakes.

[frank knoll]

From Altered Time

These mfs whylin

[wheat jay]

Well

Rmp players are dogshit

And theyre cunts

You need to be a cunt to play rmp

[nimble jasper]

ret war and rmp

literal

spiderman meme

[frank knoll]

Dude looks like bajheera which is also funny af

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor smashing someone in a warrior healer mirror

feels so good

[lucid walrus]

really does

[sharp meteor]

what feels the best is

[lucid walrus]

getting to a cr where i just go "damn i got outplayed wtf"

[nimble jasper]

get 2 double spear sharpen setups

[sharp meteor]

arms/x/healer mirror and when your third dies as u kill theirs

[nimble jasper]

with warbreaker

[sharp meteor]

and the enemy healer just leaves

instead of playing out the arms/healer 2v2

[lucid walrus]

honestly i think it's really funny having games turn into a 2s match

[nimble jasper]

meta malding

when his teammate left

was the best

[sharp meteor]

yeah no trust lmao

[nimble jasper]

but yeah

[sharp meteor]

YOU DEFY ME WHY DID YOU LEAVE

[nimble jasper]

double spear with warbreaker

double sharpen on both of them

link dont do shit

[sharp meteor]

🥰 double spear into pool into double sparen

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah pool

monka

[raw summit]

sweeping spear wb go

i love sweeping strikes

[nimble jasper]

wonder if rps goes back

[sharp meteor]

it feels quite nice

[nimble jasper]

to venthyr next ssn

so many healing absorbs

[raw summit]

venthyr w/ suphuz?

[sharp meteor]

venthyr sephuz 1 minute rally battlemaster every game

[nimble jasper]

straightback male orc

hit 3k

sit 5 months of the season

vibes

[lucid walrus]

wish i would've played more before those days were gone

actually just immortal

[languid swift]

sorry but am i being daft, im sure that twice today ive been in the arena 1 vs 1 and mid fight a rogue appears and its 2 vs 1, they deffo didnt have a bar on the right hand side after the fight started?

[sharp meteor]

?

can't see enemy team if ur team isn't all there in starting room

if that's what u mean

[elder wigeon]

look at players left at the top

[languid swift]

shouldnt they appear top roght?

[lucid walrus]

arena UI bugs out if someone doesn't join

won't tell you the opposing team until everyone enters and if someone doesn't join then that throws it off. i'm guessing that's why

[languid swift]

seems weird that its happened every time with a rogue almost like a sploit

[knotty tangle]

Its not. Ui just dosnt load in a 2v1

Or a 2v3 or 1v3..you get the point

[sharp meteor]

lol no ui just doesn't load until whole team is in

[jagged folio]

having to buy two two-handers for pvp as fury

is sad

[sharp meteor]

i know i'd sit in oribos and swap covs based on who we queued into otherwise :)))

[jagged folio]

but its ok

[eager oracle]

Aight pvp fam

Is the play necro fury for next tier based on ptr?

[sharp meteor]

Arms is still better, but Fury is kind of okay. Not sure which cov is best, but Necro should be at least fine.

[wheat jay]

Arms

[mortal elm]

i fucking realised

i did all my arenas without str hand enchant

and still won

[sharp meteor]

legendary

[eager oracle]

Got yah, I have not done testing myself but my guildies war was saying necro fury was doing insane ptr damage

Hopefully going to make my first glad push since TBC next season so trying to get everything setup beforehand

[sharp meteor]

issue i think with fury is that their defensive isn't really a "stop". If ret/warr turns and looks at me I can press parry, and I'm good

the other thing is that there's no dstance

AND ignore pain is bar more costly for them, whereas arms doesn't need much rage to function

fury wants rampages etc

I have queued into at least 4 fury warrs at like 2500-2700 and next season will likely be similarly long so i think it's fine

the multiple bladestorms and stuff with signet i imagine throw a lot of people off

[undone pumice]

str hand enchant is overrated

shadowlanss gathering is better

[twilit flax]

I'll never bg as horde again lol

Merc mode is pure bliss

2 min ques and free honor

Ez clap ez money

[undone pumice]

alliance op

but horde has orc

[twilit flax]

Orc doesn't get me honor though

[spiral sparrow]

Is 259 pvp wep better than 259 Jaithys?

for 2s :^)

[elder wigeon]

it's not gonna make a big difference

jaithys is the best technically

[sharp meteor]

no it isn't because pve gear doesn't exist dom sockets on sylvanas shoulders aren't real

[sharp meteor]

oh and have you tried playing with a kyrian rdruid yet

my healer wanted to try it but I was curious as to how it'd be what with losing swarm, its dispel protection, flesh, etc

[elder wigeon]

yeah it's hard vs rsham but it's good, kinda fun

[sharp meteor]

neat. i really wanted to try kyrian feral but my partner didn't want to get his cat set up so late in the season

we queued into that chinese tsg that they sometimes played kyrian resto

which made the fdks go kind of spooky

[wet scarab]

I boosted a Kyrian resto friend to duelist from 1400 in about 4 hours of queuing. He was mostly pve geared as a bear and is an excellent player so we had an easier time than would be expected, but the boost with necro was letting me smash things really quickly

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about how hard we're going to get decked by wps running kyrian rdruid

[wet scarab]

Well they’re nerfing kindred spirits aren’t they

Or do you mean now

It’s actually a fun combo I usually hate playing with rdruids compared to the aggressiveness of disc priests for instance, but it actually feels like they’re contributing far more damage than other healers who can land killing blows

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah now my druid wanted to mix it up a bit for the last week or so

we already get heemed by wps and most retwarrs

[wet scarab]

I think you’ll like it it gives you an edge on melee cleaves

[sharp meteor]

also played retwarr the other day for the second time and just straight murdered the two turbos we queued into within like 2-3 minutes

we queue turb into retwarr and it's like 8-12 minutes then enh gets smashed through a pre-wall or something with a full line of hots

[wet scarab]

I think jt should give you the advantage in goes if you’re evenly matched

It really is a great damage boost

Especially in openers

We weren’t playing at high enough rating to bother aligning it exactly as much as it was me getting the buff on cd

But with it most games ended in like a minute

[sharp meteor]

i wwas figuring i'd just be trying to align with warbreaker and every other bolt

and then of course warbanner

er conq banner

torn as to whether or not to split with rsham by like alternating

where i bolt warbreaker, then second bolt he sends doomwinds etc

[wet scarab]

Heh you should try just going full zug with jt in the opener a couple of times

See how it feels

You ever seen it Aragorn, the white tower of zugthelion

[spice hornet]

trying to help my bud with his glad wins

qing into kalvish

nice game

[elder wigeon]

kekw happens

i remember qing into brain and cerallium playing WMPala around 2500 a few months ago doing a carry

[lucid walrus]

necro ret/surv. what do

typically winds up being some setup into diamond ice and just walking at my rsham

[eager oracle]

Bubble can be used during stun right? Trying to figure out why everytime I managed to que with a ret they died without popping it

Arms/spriest seems pretty good tho?

[lucid walrus]

yes

and also yes

[sharp meteor]

ya one of the best comps

[eager oracle]

dope, i think im going to mess around with that some more then. not having much luck with ret/war

[wet scarab]

really having trouble countering DH/boomie as turbo

we have a slightly higher chance if the healer is an rsham

but if it's druid we might as well surrender

can't go after DH without everyone getting cleaved

and the two others are too tanky to die first

by about 6 mins in the DH has done like 1.5 million damage

almost had the rdruid once but loltranq

[twilit flax]

Until next patch when spriest is a cc/dispell bot

[sharp meteor]

How do u figure

[lucid walrus]

only an 8% nerf to its pve damage

[languid swift]

Is there a list of must have plug ins for pvp stickied anywhere? If not what do you guys use?

[lucid walrus]

gladius, nameplatecooldowns and that's about it

[tired portal]

omnibar, bigdebuffs and flyplatebuffs or nameplateauras is also good

[knotty tangle]

Gladiatorlosa or something like that helped me a lot

[raw summit]

i think omnibar isnt worth it at first since it by default only tracks kicks and you gotta know what you wanna see

[knotty tangle]

Well you just add shit you die to lol

[raw summit]

yea thats what i did

(its 50 combust icons)

[knotty tangle]

Inb4 tracking rogue Stealth

[raw summit]

i gotta track this execute thing

it does a lot of damage

[knotty tangle]

"cobra shot, 80% of total hunter dmg?.. Add"

[floral ingot]

“Freezing trap 0 damage done 15 uses?.. Nah, don’t need to track that shit, what a bad ability”

[fickle forge]

Curse anyone that has everything enabled on lossa

PURGE PURGE PURGE

[exotic dagger]

Hey lads, first time warrior here. Never played one started 3 days ago and loving it. Wanna focus on PvP. I'm gnome for roots removal, what covenant should I go? Wanna play 2s with my resto druid mate. Kyrian or Necro?

[knotty tangle]

Haha @fickle forge , when a mage spams poly macro with a stopcasting line in it... Thats fucking tilting

[warped warren]

c-c-c-c-c-c-cyclone

[mortal elm]

so as i farming bgs

i noticed something

honorable kills gives different honor

like HK : 1 Scout

HK : 6 first captain

etc

what are those

[midnight mirage]

season ends in a little over 1 week and we will get new weapons

[spark sail]

vs disc + assass who is kt

?

[fickle forge]

RBG ranks

[mortal elm]

ah its cool then

cool feature

[quiet notch]

Hey guys, not sure if i can post this here but i found an incredibly helpful new youtuber! maybe we can all give him a like. he is "only" 2700 but the informations helped me out so much! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8T-PrK3DV2paMOp41hrpZQ maybe give him a like

[elder wigeon]

I think that would fall under #promotion

[elder wigeon]

disc is really hard to kill, and not being able to help your healer with intervene, disarms, duels is going to be rough, assassination will have more pressure than you will, I would go on the rogue.

[spark sail]

thanks

i'm nearly 2k rating

but struggle with the targets sometimes

like affi an healer

i feel like i gotta go affi

cos damage

[elder wigeon]

not always but yeah it is good to pressure them to reduce damage

I'm not a 2's hero but I am 2600 with a 66% wr

[mortal elm]

is alliance bgs have %80 win rate or what

[knotty tangle]

In my experience, yes

[dense dagger]

alliance take pvp seriously

I joined a pug rated bg once and they were roleplaying an alliance attack squad

and they shouted "for the alliance" every now and then

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/tonton-tonton-sticker-no-nope-gif-13636081

[jaunty furnace]

Why is the PvP brawl Que 35 mins for me lol does no one play anymore

[fickle forge]

Not if you're horde

Ally Q time is like 4 min for brawl

[jaunty furnace]

yeah I qued as horde

[fickle forge]

We're nearing the point where there are 4 times as many horde players than ally players

[graceful quarry]

faction balance btw

[jaunty furnace]

just tried to do the Merc mode but still have a 35 mins que. Guess that only works for BGs 😦

[floral ingot]

People are beginning to understand alliance is cringe

[raw summit]

Alliance ≠ orc

[floral ingot]

Playing a human in a rpg

[fickle forge]

Playing a human 📉
Playing a vulpera 📈

[floral ingot]

We don’t talk about vulperas

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-talk-about-such-things-joey-gladstone-dave-coulier-fuller-house-we-dont-mention-that-gif-17868280

[jaunty furnace]

I really hope they add the cross faction stuff to random ques like for BGs and stuff

It would really speed things up

[scarlet barn]

I dont even know you anymore

[fickle forge]

Wanna yiff?

[scarlet barn]

[mortal elm]

wow

my experience so far me and some arena geared fellas carrying through game but even ppl with 0 gear does something you know?

even at horde kill dominance games we manage to win sometimes

[spark sail]

do conquest boxes disppear at the end of the season or do they just give last seasons gear?

[fickle forge]

Last season

[native sundial]

Anyone trying fury out for arenas now or next patch?

[raw summit]

No

[twilit flax]

Use Merc mode bro

[main silo]

Just need to double check, i just reached 2,1k on my alt and he is 5\9 and 6\9 in gear.. Do i get the elite transmog with the achivement or do i need to grind honor like a madman before the next patch?

[sharp meteor]

The weapons? Need to upgrade them to 8/9 for the silver appearance.

[main silo]

ok, but the armor i get ?

[sharp meteor]

At 1800, yeah.

[plain wing]

Just killed 2 warriors in a 2 v 1 in a bg

ive never felt so good

i love it.

the dude yeeted his disarm into my bladestorm

and tried to run away when he realized

[near delta]

There's an alliance PvP guild in dalaran called go for the knees, and they only accept gnomes and dwarfs lmao

[sharp meteor]

epic

[dense dagger]

xd

[exotic gyro]

What covenant looks best for 9.2 rn

[sharp meteor]

probs kyrian

[coarse lance]

Had fun recently watching Absterge’s zero to hero YouTube series where he took a new fury warrior to 2400. Omg the pain he was in towards the last couple hundred rating 🙂

[exotic gyro]

okey bcs i see everybody is currently playing necro but i wanna make a leggy for the next tier

but i guess if you make enduring blow it might be decent w kyrian leggo too

[sharp meteor]

enduring is what i think will be the main pickup yeah

[polar prawn]

Hey thinking of playing arms warr for pvp in 9.2 anyone know whats the best legendary ?

[sharp meteor]

kyrian with enduring and elysian might baseline gl friend

[polar prawn]

thank you appreciate the reply

[undone pumice]

do we ever go mirror

anymore

[sharp meteor]

feels nice on necro sometimes

[topaz ether]

Is the venth build in 9.2 a meme or what people gonna try and run?

I was planning on still doing necro kyrian

If u could actually consistently hit a target venthyr would pump some dumb numbers

[nimble jasper]

not as much as necro or kyrian

[sharp meteor]

Already have venth setup and will be running enduring primarily so I'll definitely give it a shot

[lucid walrus]

venth uptime getting shit on come 9.2

curious to see if enduring CS procs get extended by venth leggo

[undone pumice]

afaik no

[elder wigeon]

it does

last time I saw

but I don't think that's enough to make venthyr good

condemn sucks and that's really all you get for being venth

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor i need to play outlaw on rogue in 2s

just to give every bm team the finger

lmao

[lucid walrus]

NF priest/outlaw has insane lockdown

can't really go rogue unless you manage to decap him in a bolt either

[undone pumice]

door of shadows

[lucid walrus]

yea def not

who would win: flashy red execute or one SD proc

[sharp meteor]

maybe venth sucks and gets buff if it looks like it has little to no potential in pve

[lucid walrus]

i think the fury guys are playing necro next tier for pve. never know

really funny how we've had 2 good covenants for the entire expansion though

[elder wigeon]

door of shadows is meh, casters will kick it and now you've just wasted a bunch of time not moving lol

[undone pumice]

maybe just maybe

they buff ds exclusively for venthyr

[lucid walrus]

sure hope not

[elder wigeon]

nah venthyr can stay dead

[lucid walrus]

i don't miss that playstyle

[elder wigeon]

brain dead and bad for the game

[lucid walrus]

only good part was setting up for big mortals and even that was just a minigame

[elder wigeon]

i didn't care for any of it

[sharp meteor]

they wouldn't do that

[nimble jasper]

psure its mw outlaw

[sharp meteor]

and yeah probably

[undone pumice]

it would be funny

[nimble jasper]

that just clowns on almost every melee comp

[elder wigeon]

Kyrian being best is fine, though 8 second spear is kinda toxic too

[undone pumice]

venthyr is balanced by having the best transmog

[sharp meteor]

perma uptime with unga bunga charge executes is not good gameplay

[sharp meteor]

eh i feel like enough stuff breaks spear that it's alright

[undone pumice]

venthyr is just so trash now tho its just kinda sad

its not good for anyone at all

[sharp meteor]

especially if they don't fix the cd on the pull

[elder wigeon]

yeah i mean most classes can just outright bug out of it

but some can't

like warriors

[undone pumice]

i was about to say

[sharp meteor]

queued into a mage the other day that was reliably able to shimmer out of each spear didn't feel great

his ww also was able to roll port out of about half of them

[undone pumice]

spear is the only thing making mages tolerable to fight

[elder wigeon]

druids can bug out of it, but it's very hard

I don't care for going mages even with spear

it's too easy for them to bug abuse out

[sharp meteor]

yep off the gcd

[undone pumice]

i knkw

[sharp meteor]

makes it more reliable

watching a mage burn both charges and fox trying to escape is hilarious though

[undone pumice]

but spear is just such a great tool for a class with limitied mobility

[elder wigeon]

it definitely is

[sharp meteor]

my favorite is probably pinning retewarr or kitty

although kitty in particular is sketch because more consistent thing is doing it off bolt

[undone pumice]

i love when my spear just goes into ceiling tho

favorite part of the day

[lucid walrus]

i just don't throw it near pillars if i can help it

doesn't stop it from going to zimbabwe entirely tho

[sharp meteor]

oh and don't line the spear when u throw it or it can disappear entirely

[undone pumice]

i shot it through the floor on robodrome once

great experience

[lucid walrus]

swear i only ever get robodrome into casters

[undone pumice]

i always get mogamobola

[lucid walrus]

prideful r1 lock and his posse or some shit

[sharp meteor]

hate moogerbooger

[lucid walrus]

boogeyman is also rough

[sharp meteor]

and its big broken los pillar

[undone pumice]

i hate casters in general

fuck em

[lucid walrus]

my opinion will probably change once deathbolt 1-tap is out of play next seas but i don't especially care for them either

boxing matches are fun

[undone pumice]

not fair they get to shoot me

[elder wigeon]

locks will just headshot you with double dip legendary demo bolt

i've seen 100K's on PTR

you have 80K hp with full gear btw

[lucid walrus]

ah christ

[undone pumice]

when i ride up on someone

do i start with howl or OP

[lucid walrus]

lock players are to casters as dk players are to melee

insist their class sucks but when they're meta it's the least fun thing in the game to fight

[elder wigeon]

i only howl when I know people are trying to get to me or get away from me immediately

[undone pumice]

i mean people always want to get away from me

[elder wigeon]

if a lock is gonna port from you, do you think it'd be easier to catch up if they were howled or hamstrung?

[undone pumice]

neither

if i charge them

[elder wigeon]

wrong answer

howl is the best thing you can do to a caster if they're about to use a bunch of mobility

it's like sharpen but for mobility

[undone pumice]

does port get slower if theyre slowed

or is ot about catching up to them after they try to pillar

[elder wigeon]

No, but they can't move away from their port location basically

so they can't pillar you

[undone pumice]

ah

is howl slow that huge

[lucid walrus]

it's pretty major

[undone pumice]

usually it feels like they get cleansed immediately

[lucid walrus]

port clears snares if they have the iq to run that conduit into you. howl is great for not getting deadzoned though

[undone pumice]

or i get slowed myself

[elder wigeon]

it's a 70% slow

how do you feel when you get chains of iced

[undone pumice]

idk i dont see any dks

[elder wigeon]

odd, i see them all the time lol

[undone pumice]

i play 2s

that could be why

[elder wigeon]

yuck

only dk i see in 2's is petkick

still super aids

[undone pumice]

i saw 1 dk

in 200 fames

games

[sharp meteor]

i feel like i only queue into one dk

she has like 4k games played of frost tsg this season

unholy feels super rare though

[elder wigeon]

petkick only plays unholy even when it's dumpster tier

[sharp meteor]

that he does

honestly it's good into some things it just like

can't deal with other things

but you can make anything work to the point where there's only a few teams queuing

then avoid queuing into back to back horrific matchups

[undone pumice]

is frost even good

or is dk just dumpster tier atm

[sharp meteor]

i think it's fine/good yeah although obviously not rogue or warrior

too many dks unwilling to press chains and simply walk away between their goes

[nimble jasper]

i see alot less monks lately

which is surprising

[undone pumice]

this is great news

monks cancer

[elder wigeon]

frost dk is good

B+ tier I'd say

[sharp meteor]

countered by weakauras and rm

[lucid walrus]

dk just winds up needing a lot of support i think

with that said it's disgusting into caster teams bc of spellwarding bug

[elder wigeon]

there's just not a lot of nutty dk players

[undone pumice]

dk seems like warrior but kinda worse at most things

[lucid walrus]

i've seen it as reverse warrior in a sense

[sharp meteor]

the class is different and just doesn't appeal to as many people due to i guess its lack of mobility and sort of pseudo-ranged playstyle at times

idk i wanna play mine next season

[lucid walrus]

i just want the set tbh

jestermaxxing

[undone pumice]

i wanna play dk but it feels like its not worth learning another class when i can just play an easy one like arms

[elder wigeon]

dk is like ret, where it's not meta very often, except some great players have stuck with ret the whole time unlike dk

only notable player being petkick really

[undone pumice]

ret seems like its meta a lot more than dk tho

[elder wigeon]

how do you figure?

[undone pumice]

they 1 shot me

and it makes me sad

[lucid walrus]

"ghostcrawler, why did you nerf ret again?" "because i don't like them"

[elder wigeon]

kekw

[undone pumice]

i dont like ret

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor yeah its weird

cuz i won like 70% of rm matchups

granted they sucked

[undone pumice]

they have bubble and i lack the brain function to press shattering throw

[sharp meteor]

Had a rogue with ray on him vanish the other day then fall out of stealth dead a few seconds later

[undone pumice]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

we didn't deserve him

[lucid walrus]

here's hoping riot treats him well

[nimble jasper]

had a rogue vanish vs my monk

and i just got double proc which i used as he vanished

man comes out dead

you say countered by wa

doesnt stop the 2.4 rdruid

from dying opener

[sharp meteor]

rdruid players find a way

[manic patio]

I recently swapped from Kyrian to Necro for 3s and was wondering how much haste I should have with the Enduring blow lego.

I play with a priest who PIs me as well so that makes up for low haste but is it worth getting haste gems etc?

[sharp meteor]

not sure if there's a particular amount

enduring just feels nice with haste in general

[elder wigeon]

if you're gonna play enduring blow I wouldn't think it would feel very good with <10% haste

it's hard to draw a line exactly

I'm thinking if you're playing EM with EB next patch you probably end up playing more haste than you would now, at least 12%

[sharp meteor]

yeah i tried it doesn't feel great and at that point if i was full crit i'd just wanna q kitty with unhinged or something

[elder wigeon]

I don't like unhinged as kitty much

[sharp meteor]

i try to spitball things that i can't play

because i only q turb

[elder wigeon]

the damage can be insane but it's only really good into non warrior melee cleaves

so DH DK, WW DK, ret dh, ret WW, those comps

but even then it's safer and more consistent to play enduring

[sharp meteor]

yeah have had games where dh or ww just randomly explode

can only imagine what it's like with empower and unhinged

[elder wigeon]

I've hit 28K mortal strike crits from my bladestorm

[sharp meteor]

just had the weirdest game into ret/havoc where they dark at 70%

and i 2-hit the dh through it

[elder wigeon]

yikes

[sharp meteor]

neither partner noticed because they were

[elder wigeon]

you won the lottery

[sharp meteor]

trying to stop the ret dam

yeah

[elder wigeon]

if I hit into blur or dark it's 100%

[sharp meteor]

he didn't blur so i was trying to get that

as ret had shield and bark etc

[elder wigeon]

dark is 50% too lol

[sharp meteor]

yeeee

feels bad to pre-dark a go with big hits and die instantly anyways

because you 50-50'd none of the big swings

[elder wigeon]

what i meant was if I hit into it, there's a 100% chance it gets dodged or nullified

[nimble jasper]

dh blurs air

before full cds

tries to kite

[elder wigeon]

dh's do blur air and it kinda doesn't even matter lmao

[nimble jasper]

dies to a warbringer execute

[sharp meteor]

i dont think he even sent blur he just held

[nimble jasper]

for half his hp

[elder wigeon]

dh just gets a demon proc and tops himself

[nimble jasper]

funniest game was on monk

cuz 100-0ed a dh

through trinket blur dark

i was expecting an agnry dm

then just send a "welcome to shadowlands"

[sharp meteor]

yeah demon proc is like 20k heal

soul eat is another 20k

[elder wigeon]

fuckin hate it

[nimble jasper]

necro dh

is full gaspedal

[sharp meteor]

have had best results into dh/boom going rsham after running for a solid minute until earth ele and meta are spent

all the dhs are so fkn awful but it's hard to do anything about it

[nimble jasper]

its like

somehow tankier than bfa

and bfa you didnt have felblade

for even more mongo mobility

[sharp meteor]

Nah, they randomly get skidmarked it's just that blur is so potent

bfa dh with tank trinkets early on or versatile set later on was reasonably durable especially in 2s

they just all ran gush

[nimble jasper]

naw

you know what was fun

3x furious gaze vs destro

and just playing rain from above

just machinegun down lances

[sage raptor]

What's with all the fury warriors all of a sudden?

[sharp meteor]

Have only seen one or two, but maybe just people messing around because it's the end of the season.

[sage raptor]

Probably

[main copper]

I've seen a couple of Ret Fury's at 1900 but it seems fairly meh.

Dunno if it is a boosting thing though as the Rets gear was worse in both games.

[twilit flax]

Man I just got my alt to 1800 with zero conduits and I find out you can get all 200 for 500gs

Like daymn

I thought I read everything about 9.1.5 too

Over 200 games

[nimble jasper]

i found out

you can reflect hunt dot

[lucid walrus]

yup

[sharp meteor]

Mhm. It's also applied instantly after the cast finishes.

Whereas the "hit" of the hunt is on arrival, and you can cc them out of the flight.

[nimble jasper]

yeah

reminds me when i rung a dh in s1

mid hunt travel

[sharp meteor]

ya if renown 80 or w/e

so happy they added that

[lucid walrus]

last min elite set grabs are so much easier with it

full unleveled box gear helps loads too

[fickle forge]

Max ilvl conduits from being elite next season though

[sharp meteor]

gonna be so happy if it's for alts

full conduits on fleet of chars after geting glad once

unnnf

[fickle forge]

Heard it was char specific

So unfortunately not

[lucid walrus]

might happen in 9.2.9999

[main copper]

Just get glad on all chars ezclap.

[twilit flax]

The 80 reknown is pretty easy

U can also start at 40 for 500 gold

You could potentially hit 80 same day if u were so Inclined

Just 78-80 have to be korthia jailer quest or world callings I believe

[spark sail]

i got my 80 from a dungeon boss

i'm completely out of the loop on 9.2 can i trouble anyone to answer a few questions if you've got time?

[fierce elm]

We dont know shit, Necro/kyr is looking best

Other than those just hit up any wowhead article for r7 leggo and similar

[lean island]

someone know a nice streamer for warrior pvp content where i can learn?

[raw summit]

Check #268491842637660160

It has some good ones

[lean island]

thanks 😁

[vivid stone]

pog went 0-2100 in 2 days

[spark sail]

do you have to do the campaign quest line to get the second leggo?

[sharp meteor]

then that's pretty useless lel

[sly walrus]

U look best

[fickle forge]

Not for me, who's never had a maxed out conduit on any of my chars since SL

[sharp meteor]

yeah my third warr still has 200 conduits to my partners dismay

[raw summit]

3rd is a panda i hope

[fickle forge]

I play with a tryhard hunter who's had maxed conduits since like week 4

[fierce elm]

What the fuck are you doing here

[sly walrus]

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

?

oh ye

week 10 maxed last one

[barren crane]

can you @%t with something like spear? or does it have to be @cursor

i watch joes stream and if his target is'nt moving the spears are always dead center on them idk how he does it

[fierce elm]

Because he can aim it

experience

[wet scarab]

Is there a way to create a macro that switches from defensive to attack stance but not back if it’s already active? For instance, I want to create a macro that switches out of defensive stance when I cast warbreaker, but not into defensive stance if it’s not already active

[fierce elm]

Pretty sure no

[wet scarab]

:<

I think the main skill I’m lacking having got to 2200 is not optimising stance dancing so I’m trying to figure out ways to get better at it

[fierce elm]

by learning to deactivate it when you are going

its that simple really

[wet scarab]

Yeah but is there a way to create better reminders at the start? Perhaps weakauras or something I don’t know. I’ve been trying but find it hard in the chaos of 3s

[raw summit]

i can give you my wa that has the glowing shield if u have it up

if thats what ur looking for

[wet scarab]

Yes please that would be super helpful

[raw summit]

ill dm you the code once i log back on

[wet scarab]

Thank you so much

How long would you estimate you stay in def stance over the course of regular matches

I wonder if I’m being too conservative with mine

[eager oracle]

Prolly depends on what you’re fighting?

[cedar silo]

Zhrey is pretty good and not that big, so if you ask something in chat, he'll see it

[eager oracle]

MM hunter I feel like I sit in defensive stance a lot

[fierce elm]

When you will take dick that cant be healed easily/tanked

But you gotta be brave man

cant sit dstance all the time

[sharp meteor]

gotta identify goes

perma dstance = no pressure

well, you have ms to support teammate, but you yourself lose a lot of dam

[cedar silo]

Had a bad habit of sitting dstance entier matches until i got 2.2-2.3 ish and people cc'ed me enough to just sustain the damage

then had to learn to swap battle

[sharp meteor]

ya i still get spooked and sit d if i don't know

[raw summit]

so in 2s i wanna spend even less time in d

[sharp meteor]

helps to be comfortable and know when u can swap around

[raw summit]

since im the onl pressure?

[cedar silo]

but shit it feels good pre d and parry a kidney go

[sharp meteor]

so uh it depends because 2s is really all about damage

[cedar silo]

feel like a mlg pro sniper player god

[sharp meteor]

they ahve cds, u don't, then sit d

u trading evenly, figure out which is better

u trading favorably, battle

like lets say u win on mana 100% just need to live can sit d outside of your cds

and just live

deny and window of opportunity

[raw summit]

i play with mw so we generally do well on mana

but low rated so idk

[fierce elm]

MW has 0 mana issues

[sharp meteor]

yeah like mw is keep enemy in middle of map and pve other guy win on mana

[fierce elm]

so that makes sense

[sharp meteor]

both my mws have a fucking stroke if i move towards them

so keep enemy team middle of the map

[fierce elm]

They move in if they wanna help

otherwise leave MW alone lmao

[raw summit]

my mw never rolls over me when running frim dh

[fierce elm]

Also really prone to swap too

[raw summit]

big sad

[eager oracle]

If I am intervening my team mate getting clapped I should be d-stance correct?

[fierce elm]

Generally, yes

If your teammate is getting fucking blasted by a warrior, then yes

or w.e else can be intervened

[eager oracle]

3s are pretty new to me, I mainly RBG the last time I did arena you could still get glad in 2s

[fierce elm]

It also heavily depends on your comp

because you might want to have intervene for other things

such as intercepting stuns/disarms

[eager oracle]

I pretty much play with whomever will accept me, currently at 2100. I get what you’re saying tho some classes can take it better than others

[fierce elm]

For example, if you are playing with a brainlet enhance, there is an argument to be made to have intervene up for doomwinds go

So you can eat disarm

[sharp meteor]

if you're really ahead and aren't in danger of dying randomly then it can be fine to be battle otherwise usually defensive as you're trying to eat big dam

[sharp meteor]

killed a lot of teams in opener intervening disarm on my sham and he just ascends and 2-hits somebody

[fierce elm]

Always time that shit nowadays

[sharp meteor]

or warr/rogue burns mobility so he just ascends from range because they can't reach him for disarm

[fierce elm]

Its worth losing 1 intervene in order to eat it because just GO GO GO

[sharp meteor]

took a rogue the other day from 70 to 0 in just over a global from 20 yards away

because rogue tried to step disamntle but was vortexed and missed it

[fierce elm]

destroyed

Honestly the diff between a good and bad warrior is D-stance and Intervene management

any monkey can deal damage

[sly walrus]

Even me

[eager oracle]

ah I didn’t know you could intervene disarms

[sharp meteor]

yeah melee physical or w/e

can eat bolt kidney cheap etc too

[fierce elm]

Shatter

[sharp meteor]

feral frenzy too!!

[fierce elm]

You can do so much shit as intervene

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah and kicks/shatter on delicate wizard teammate

[raw summit]

guessing it doesnt work on the fancy kicks from dk dh

[fierce elm]

which makes intervene an intricate spell

[sharp meteor]

it's such a cool ability

[fierce elm]

DK/DH kicks are magic

[sharp meteor]

vene rsham for flesh

vene sp for flesh

yeah dh dk wizards are magic

[fierce elm]

But if you are facing Warr/WW/warr/ret you can just fucking eat so much shit

Just being able to Intervene+free cast hex is insane

[eager oracle]

So if intervene a ret in bubble I’ll eat the shatter too?

[fierce elm]

yes

[sharp meteor]

ye

u can make a ret like u very much with good duels disarms intervenes fears etc

[eager oracle]

The disarm thing checks out, was really confused why I was getting disarmed when I didn’t have avatar popped

[fierce elm]

You can singlehandedly shut down so many goes

[sharp meteor]

warbreaker = honk honk = disarm

[raw summit]

yes

[fierce elm]

by optimizing intrevene

[cedar silo]

Duel the pala doing a go on my pala

[eager oracle]

Might be more predictive then. I’ll intervene a kidney but I’ve never done it beforehand

[cedar silo]

get oneshot myself

[sharp meteor]

yeah lmao

need to be care

[eager oracle]

Or if healer gets cc’d and can’t trinket I’ll intervene w/e dps they are trying to clap if it’s not me

I haven’t been looking for specific abilities

[sharp meteor]

rm usually telegraphs their goes somewhat but u will be put in stuff first so it's iffy

ur off dr, mage shimmers in

[cedar silo]

I feel like its kinda impossible to see a rm go in 2s cause setup is literally dance-cheap-step+kidney into sheep offtarget

[eager oracle]

I was playing with a frost DK last night and did well. Also did really well with 1 particular spriest. Other spriests I don’t seem to work with

[cedar silo]

thats 1 second to react unless you have their cooldowns timed properly

and even then it feels like rogues need nothing but reprimand to be able to kill

rmp is way more forgiving that way since theres 3 targets that needs cross cc

[eager oracle]

Warlock/spriest were the bane of my existence

Jungle was annoying too. Somehow beat every DH/Druid

[cedar silo]

I've found it effective to los and afk on their damage and just sit pillar till you have SB, WB, charge and leap up again

Higher rating that probably doesnt work since they almost for sure win damp, but idk

works for me just below glad

[sharp meteor]

splay we usually run at priest

swap aff if he stands there but mostly to bait some hots/globals

i swap out elysian for enduring because spear is useless

actually feels pretty easy if we're playing with mw

[raw summit]

mw is cheating into dot specs

[sharp meteor]

and yeah issue with afking their damage is that rdruid can get a drink

[cedar silo]

I havee yet to find a healer that doesnt kill himself dispelling

or runs himself dry doing it

[raw summit]

mw put down balls

win

[sharp meteor]

i dont think we have rly played with sphere

[cedar silo]

Revival big in reversing a go into your own offense

[sharp meteor]

just dome and counteract i think

only issue was like if sp stands in their starting room in the absolute open that puts mw in a bad spot so have to turn and hit healer or lock

[cedar silo]

Fucking hate when players have good positioning

[sharp meteor]

had two super feed games vs lock/shadow where we tried to run at sp in a super deep spot and it went horribly because lock and healer got to do w/e they wanted to our healer

other than that it has felt pretty good

revival also rips off spear which is super neato for wps

[wet scarab]

I love playing with MW more than any other healer

First of all they’re all chill weirdos

[sharp meteor]

it's like they wanna be a hermit in the arena

and just sit as far away from everybody as possible

[wet scarab]

100%

[sharp meteor]

which can be fine but also rly annoying as it's not the most flexible thing

[wet scarab]

Get off my lawn while I get high on the porch

[sharp meteor]

my rdruid has spun a lot of matches around by just having super good incaps/bashes/clones etc

[wet scarab]

Come to think of it all the MWers I played with have usually been high

[sharp meteor]

not that mw can't make plays its just that they usually want to play in one particular way

yeah max range then make anxious noises when melee move towards them

[wet scarab]

Haha

[raw summit]

you should see my mw

all he does is run run run run from melee

[wet scarab]

The other thing about MWers is that they’re like able to read the minds of any WW and negate every one of their goes

[raw summit]

cuz at my mmr all dps only go him since he has less gear than me

i think

[sharp meteor]

people dont stop running at mmr

er mw

at any mmr

[wet scarab]

yeah it's dumb af

I like playing with them because it feels like they require the least babysitting of all the healers

[sharp meteor]

no that's rdruid

[wet scarab]

I haven't been lucky with my rdruids

[sharp meteor]

mw actually can't handle setups

[raw summit]

rdu goes bear and goes to sleep

[sharp meteor]

like mind games kills rdruid but other than that they're usually chillin

"what are these idiots doing hitting me thanks for the frenzied regen value lmao"

[wet scarab]

heh

the MW I play with just kites melee over and over and doesn't get hit

[sharp meteor]

is this 2s or something because in 3s retwarr kitty etc just fucking dome mw

jungle too

[raw summit]

2s mw is prolly easier

[sharp meteor]

its like they know mw gets gaped if ran at

and added the honor talents

[wet scarab]

yeah I mostly played with him in 2s, we got to 2200 in 3s but hit a wall there

[sharp meteor]

but it feels like not enough

[wet scarab]

but mostly the trouble we had with was with caster cleaves more than melee

[sharp meteor]

rly i feel like we destroy wizards when healer is on mw

[wet scarab]

yeah I think it's a combination of the dps doing stupid things and struggling with healer positioning

[nimble jasper]

alot of rdruids int so hard

but spec is so broken in the hands of a good healer

[wet scarab]

yeah it just feels impossible when it's a good player who uses the whole toolkit

heh the thing about good rdruids is they're also pretty salty since 99% of losses will not be on them

I pugged around duelist is a very good one who pointed out every game when the ret we were playing with was using defensives while having full hots

she was making very good points but I think the paladin decided to quit arena afterwards lol

[sharp meteor]

hm i think it's hard to use full kit

but harder to know when u shouldn't use

because lots of rdruids obviously watch some r1 rdruid hop in for clones but doesn't know that they're usually doing it when it's safe and cc is down or enemy dps are covered

[floral ingot]

Play double warrior, every wb you intervene each other and you never get disarmed

Mega stonks

[spice hornet]

when you and the enemy warrior telepathically agree to not disarm each other

[sharp meteor]

when u both warbreaker bladestorm at the same time :)))

[raw summit]

against mm rdu

who do i hit

[sharp meteor]

whatever u can

disarm mm buttons

[raw summit]

ye i got slightly annoyed by all the blowback n shit from mm

but ended up winning on mana and rdu fell over

????

[spice hornet]

free win

train healer while prot stands there and tickles u

[nimble jasper]

if the prot is on you

free cleave

[raw summit]

ye won

but like

why do you queue this

[nimble jasper]

riding priests as warrior is nice tbh

idk

same reason people q sp healer 2s

which is super annoying since alot of sps suck and dont know a win condition that isnt damp and hope someone dies to dots

[raw summit]

i play w/ mw so its ultra bedge

into sp

[nimble jasper]

when you have cds ready

have finger ready on kick

and unload on him if shadow lock

[raw summit]

into ret mm

i guess ret?

[nimble jasper]

can kill either i think but you’ll have alot easier uptime on the ret

[raw summit]

ret died cuz sac in spear bs

[spice hornet]

ive ran into this one guy running rsham/prot warr

when i was doing 2s on my alt warrior

just loses in damp

no idea why youd wanan play that

prob auto lose into bm hunter healer

[nimble jasper]

is prot war

even that much tankier than arms in d full time

lmao

[spice hornet]

barely enough to make it worth playing

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[spice hornet]

does no dmg

its just annoying

[nimble jasper]

was gonna say

mage healer can be aids

esp since most dont coordinate bust with stuns from healer

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[sharp meteor]

lmao

[thick reef]

mages are robots that are programed to only press poly, fire, and bust

[nimble jasper]

no they need to skillfully say

“double db ring put that on twitch”

[near delta]

I was playing WMP with this mage the other day that was raging so hard at me even though we won like 10 games straight

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk wmp is trap with lfg

[near delta]

Then we lost against a ret/warrior and he was saying all this toxic shit and kicked me

[nimble jasper]

cant trust random mages to land poly without pre stun

[near delta]

Dude was playing disc command instead of triune

Actually trolling lmao

[nimble jasper]

DC is better

except into mirrors

maybe not in wmp

[near delta]

I mean against a melee cleave seems like triune would be a no brainer

He did shit all damm with disc

[nimble jasper]

most of the r1 mages say dc is better

barring rmp mirror

[near delta]

Ah didn't realize that huh

[sharp meteor]

what did he mean by this

[near delta]

I remember before mostly seeing them run it with other casters who will get trained harder

[nimble jasper]

honestly even when you play rogue

you get annoyed by the mages

who need every sheep babysat

by a stun

But most mages are really bad and can’t play without a rogue or another caster.

and it shows

[jaunty furnace]

Is tichondrius good for pvp and should I xfer a character there?

[nimble jasper]

server doesnt matter since arena groups can be cross realm

[nimble jasper]

Also this is a thing I swear mage skill ceiling is so high.

Because good mages still do enough damage to kill every stun dr even while trained.

[lucid walrus]

it's definitely one of the most expressive classes out there

[jaunty furnace]

It’s 1800 in RBG to get the replica tmog gear correct?

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[raw summit]

Im guessing 245 should be enough to push 1800?

I dont wanna grind 15k honor for the +4 ilvl i could get

[sharp meteor]

Yes, although I guess it depends on you.

[raw summit]

Well ive not really been having troubles getting from 1,5 to 1,7 with my friend

[sharp meteor]

plus the partner situation

[raw summit]

Ye my mw is a but under geared but pumps

And big Rally generally saves him from being oneshot

[ember rose]

So many psyducks

[raw summit]

Just give me all the sp in the world please

Ikr

[ember rose]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-confused-psyduck-gif-5762799

[sharp meteor]

I love this duck, it's my spirit animal.

[raw summit]

One of them is good at the game though

[ember rose]

Tempted to make my pfp aswell

[raw summit]

The other is doing pvp for the first time this season

[sharp meteor]

Actual footage of me listening to my partners yell over who is using what but not really specifying who

[ember rose]

Lmao

[sharp meteor]

Also survived a duel the other day because my shaman threw a chain harvest downstairs

[raw summit]

I have shaman dh

Also what's the mm hunter skill that blows me back

[sharp meteor]

buster shot or something

rly annoying on blade's edge

[raw summit]

I think im horribly trading movement into MM

[sharp meteor]

oh bursting shot

[raw summit]

So i wanna stop that

[wet scarab]

Everything is annoying in blade’s edge

[sharp meteor]

yeah they are quite disruptive, kind of like ele

[raw summit]

It's really annoying getting pelted and not being able to los

But parry is currently enough

[sharp meteor]

last match the other night was vs necro mm kyrian feral and the hunter just sent like 60-80k+ dam in a go

such a stressful match LMAO

find reasonably high mmr necro mmr i have seen

[raw summit]

Oh ye i took 50k from a boomie in 1 sec

Through parry

[sharp meteor]

pow

[raw summit]

After i killed their mate

And he convokes me and we lose

[wet scarab]

Almost lost a 3v2 the other day because a warlock death bolted me for 70k after killing their 3rd

[sharp meteor]

okay for real what the fuck does kitty lose to lmao

[nimble jasper]

doesnt every kitty

[raw summit]

I gotta get a wall Trinket actually.. I have my stat proc one

[nimble jasper]

just complain about rmp

rmp lives in bluedrew’s head

rent free

[wet scarab]

Yeah I think rogues no?

[sharp meteor]

rmp can fuck off

holy made it so cancer

[nimble jasper]

even rm in 2s is like

i swear

seeing 2.3/2.4 rm that just

hard int

and lose

is funny

I really wish

rmp wasnt like 2 tiers above every other rogue comp

minimum

[sharp meteor]

queued into a kitty last night and their healer missed q

they're like 300 points higher now fk

[wet scarab]

I’m not sure if it’s just me but I generally have an even chance of winning rmp matches but sometimes you run into an rmp that includes actual competent players and it feels so utterly useless and impossible to even try to fight it

[nimble jasper]

I mean

[raw summit]

What's that addon called that shows queue

[nimble jasper]

is funny cuz the low rated rmps im just like

[raw summit]

Safe queue?

[nimble jasper]

hello

can you guys not spend 5 globals

setting up a go

[wet scarab]

Lmao

[nimble jasper]

“oh great im still half dead through a scuffed go”

legendary

[raw summit]

Yet to queue into a good rm

Legit got all rogues with unsap + Piercing

They then stand there like they didnt expect it and kinda die to spear

[frank knoll]

Didn’t he get banned?