pvp

[warped warren]

if even

[terse sigil]

still need like over 100k in total for full gear upgrades

[warped warren]

yes

[terse sigil]

and cant really stockpile it

[warped warren]

but its capped at 15k

remember?

[terse sigil]

yeah

[warped warren]

and when a cq piece costs 875 and you get 550 per week

you'll be capped twice over if you play on the regular

[terse sigil]

w/e

1 piece is 11k to upgrade

thats a cap essentially

and if u farm 11k per week u're playing a lot

[warped warren]

the cheap pieces are not 11k 🤣

and it you want to buy a 875 piece you have to wait 2 weeks

and 15k honor in 2 weeks is not alot

5k for a cheap piece 😓

[prime dock]

Returning player - what's a safe covenant to choose for PvP even going into 9.2? Necro? Kyrian?

[warped warren]

kyrian is good

[raw summit]

so if my monk healer is perma running from double dps (usally dh + X) how to i get more damage in

other than just using piercing on cd /sweepings

cuz i feel like i cant keep up with how fast they run :/

[sharp meteor]

slow and hit them

bolt/spear them

leg sweep them

ring them into you

mw doesn't like having stuff in its face

[raw summit]

im assuming sweeping strikes has giga value

defensive spear "go" too

[fickle forge]

You usually can't make the most out of sweep when they chase down your healer

Awesome if you can, but it shouldn't be your main priority

[sharp meteor]

i mean a lot of stuff is ideally send defensively

bolt enemy warr on warbreaker disarm out into spear poof their conq banner is gone

er spear out of stun

[slender bear]

Question, for 9.2 is kyrian most likely the go to?
Going Necro atm, but just wondering if kyrian had alot more value due to leggy

[mortal elm]

why the hell everything about pvp taking so long time

[raw summit]

time gated content so bobby gets sub money

[sharp meteor]

Kyrian looks like the safest and most versatile, Necro will probably continue to be fine despite Glory looking kind of underwhelming, Venth might have potential, NF isn't getting anything good.

[slender bear]

Ah cool got it.

Thanks

[mortal elm]

not time gate

i mean i opened the game 1 hour 30 min but still coulndt find a group

rbg, arenas doesnt matter

[raw summit]

oh

yea i dont pug yet :3

i wanna get my gear up first

so im playing with an irl friend

[sharp meteor]

playing with friends or at least regulars is always preferable

[raw summit]

they are as bad as me so it fits

:3

[sharp meteor]

i would just not play arena if i had to find new people every session

[raw summit]

once 9.2.5 i can play with their rdru

which is gonna be juice

[knotty tangle]

@sharp meteor every time i lfg and play like 4 or 5 games they always add. Can work sometimes

[sharp meteor]

yaya have had too many adds just grabbing somebody to get duelist on an alt in 2s or something

[knotty tangle]

Ah yeah thats what im doing, chillin between 1.9 and 2.2 on alts

[raw summit]

id be fine with 2100 but ideally 2400 for mount

goin 2100 2s into learn 3s seems like a decent way to do it ig

[knotty tangle]

Yeah, and easier to get added in 2s than sitting in 3s lfg alone

Pump some 2s, add, pump some 3s

[mortal elm]

Im so bored

XDD

[sharp meteor]

1800, 1950 or 2100 in 2s then 3s

[mortal elm]

goddamn this is worse than pve pugging

[sharp meteor]

because 2s is free and low mmr 3s polluted with people in 2s gear

like 1700 bm hunter that's 259 ilev like get out of my rat alt games

[knotty tangle]

Haha did that with double 259 dh

1700 mmr gods

Both 4k dps vs 35k hp peeps

[mortal elm]

which conduits you want

i was using kleia but will switch mika

rn

[raw summit]

i generally see a 60k hp andy every 7th/8th game in 2s

kinda annoying

[sharp meteor]

mika and pelagos both feel nice

not sure when to play kleia

[knotty tangle]

Check murlok.io or pins @mortal elm

[mortal elm]

ye just saw there is pins for pvp as well

was checking it

[raw summit]

idk which mika path youd go

3p or stun

both seem fine

[slender bear]

Here in 9.1.5 is kyrian leggy worth running or is painbreaker stronger?

[sharp meteor]

i feel like kyrian often wants to play spear leggo yeah, like 95%+ of the time

have been playing enduring into some dk and spriest teams because they can just leave spear whenever they want

and small spear often baits fade or advance

elysian and painbringer together are goin to feel so good 🤤

[slender bear]

Oh yeah i could imagine 😄

[mortal elm]

second hour of pugging 0 applicants

[scarlet barn]

are you alliance

[mortal elm]

hored

horde*

i mean there is not 0 but still so low

[sharp meteor]

i didn't even spend much time on alli finding healers

[mortal elm]

played 3 matches in 2 hour

all lose

[sharp meteor]

shambles

yeah never seen lfg that dead

[raw summit]

are you listing group or trying to join

[sharp meteor]

can do both now i think hehe

[mortal elm]

listing

I mean how am i outhealing resto druid? while i am getting damage

with arms warrior??

ill probably just try to hit 1800 then dont play pvp again, since next seasons elite tier looks bad

[raw summit]

Afk rdu

[mortal elm]

most heal of his came from frenzied generation etc

but i was getting focused idk

[sharp meteor]

day drinking rdruid ahaha

[mortal elm]

enemy rdruids are so dangereous when i get matched on idk

[sharp meteor]

2s rdruid is weird they are always a few hundred mmr higher than they should be

[undone pumice]

what is painbringer lego

also wouldnt u just 100% run misshapen mirror vs any casters in 9.2

[sharp meteor]

enduring

[raw summit]

Enduring Blow

[sharp meteor]

and ew no

depends on caster

[raw summit]

Not vs fire

They blast it off and ur still fucked

[undone pumice]

vs like

priest

sp

mindgames

i hate

[sharp meteor]

like 95% of spriests are necro

and the ones that aren't only play with mages

who'll usually blast it off if you're out of cc

[undone pumice]

who tf

[sharp meteor]

ran misshapen into rsham splay the other day and absolutely dumpstered them on mana

[undone pumice]

plays necro spriest

[raw summit]

Everyone

[sharp meteor]

literally 95%+ of them

[undone pumice]

ive never seen spriest necro

[sharp meteor]

basically all of them

[undone pumice]

maybe im just braindead

[sharp meteor]

the only venth priests i see are healers

or playing with fire mages aka godcomp

[undone pumice]

probably im just braindead

[nimble jasper]

idk if its just 2s

but rating this season seems more inflated

than bfa s4

[sharp meteor]

it is lmao

[nimble jasper]

which is crazy considering

[sharp meteor]

got elite on fourth warr and its like

6k people above 2400

like o cool

[mortal elm]

why you call

enduring

[nimble jasper]

how long bfa s4 was

[mortal elm]

painbringer?

[sharp meteor]

because noobs always go off the item name

and don't know what anybody means when they say eb

[undone pumice]

wtf

who

does that

[mortal elm]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

u think all shadowpriests are venth wym

[undone pumice]

becauaei just started playing this game

[mortal elm]

all of them are necro

[undone pumice]

again

in early s1 all were venth

[nimble jasper]

i havent seen a venthyr spreist

besides godcomp ones

@sharp meteor but yeah honestly

90% of rdruids in 2s

are 700 rating above where they belong

[sharp meteor]

rdruid gets para'd ww leg sweeps me, commits dust and clones plus keefers so i trinket fear and piercing

rdruid radnomly trinkets the para

like cool

[nimble jasper]

rdruids in 2s

partner is half hp and gets incapped?

trinket!

[undone pumice]

rdruids in 2s are funny species

[nimble jasper]

every damn time

[sharp meteor]

setting up alt i always grab rsham now

every rdruid just feeds 30 seconds in somehow

life finds a way

[nimble jasper]

queueing into maxvila

playing fire hpriest

with some egirl

[raw summit]

It's not season 1 anymore

[nimble jasper]

who plays like they belong at 1800

[undone pumice]

is turbo cleave still good

[nimble jasper]

not as good as ret war

[sharp meteor]

it's decent imo

[nimble jasper]

or kitty

but not bad

[sharp meteor]

just gets eaten by retwarr

which makes me super sad

[undone pumice]

so retwarr and kitty cleave is best

[sharp meteor]

i think we have like 40% wr vs retwarr 💀

yes along with wps

[undone pumice]

but turbo cleave is FUNNY

[nimble jasper]

mag was playing wmd but

ehh

requires a bit better players

[sharp meteor]

i do enjoy plaaying with two healers

and yes most mages don't function without a rogue or another wizard so

[undone pumice]

turbo cleave is the easiest tho no?

[sharp meteor]

lol no retwarr or wps much easier

[nimble jasper]

idk why na doesnt play ww mage

theres multiple of them at 3.4 on eu

[undone pumice]

wps is warr/priest/shaman ?

[sharp meteor]

queued into it a few times the other day super annoying

[nimble jasper]

yes

[sharp meteor]

mage kept shimmering out of my spears

[nimble jasper]

ww sub priest just looks funny as fk

they ding anyone

who trinlets

main downside is you dont have a raidboss mage

on your team

[sharp meteor]

had kyrian starting room bug the other day

but got ignored so it didn't matter

ww/sub is interesting

[nimble jasper]

i dont get how low rated mages

complain about getting kicked

you have 3 schools

....

[undone pumice]

i still dont know how to fight mages

[sharp meteor]

yeah imagine

[undone pumice]

i just die through defensives during combust or then get kited

[nimble jasper]

you mostly learn the rogue mage script

cuz 90% of them can only play

rogue mage

or double caster

i never want MLD to be meta again

that comp is so toxic

[undone pumice]

what is mld

[sharp meteor]

mage lock druid

aka triangle of misery

[undone pumice]

what tge fuck

that seems aids

[sharp meteor]

it is

[undone pumice]

how do you

do anything

against that

[nimble jasper]

frost mage demo lock mld

[sharp meteor]

idk hope they int

[nimble jasper]

tolviron

i got cancer

[sharp meteor]

queued into frost mage who trinketed a para the other day

just to get one more bolt on us before we pillared

[nimble jasper]

watching frost mage players

get dinged

[nimble jasper]

cuz caut doesnt exist

HAHAHAHA

if you get tolviron

or moogabooga

as mld

idk how you lose

[sharp meteor]

at least spriest is immobile gimme splay any day feels nice playing with mw

[nimble jasper]

yeah but mld

cancerous

[warped warren]

line deathborne

gg

just sit afk the 35 seconds or w.e

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's how we do

[nimble jasper]

i get the urge

to flame people that play mld

so hard

[cedar silo]

Everything with a mage honestly

[slender bear]

Started playing warrior again, jesus it feels alot smoother compared to playing my DK

[plain wing]

fuck dk's and their perma 70% slow or whatever it is

[full quiver]

yeah they're OP AF

[sharp meteor]

chains and running is kind of all they can do between goes sometimes

[earnest zodiac]

can be up to 50 seconds

[earnest zodiac]

their spike dmg is all about getting to that ramp man, i think if they couldnt RELIABLY get away theyd be big screwed

[sharp meteor]

DKs do take physical damage to the face right now.

[craggy socket]

Does this argument even hold water? For real. Timegating keeps more people from playing than actually stickinga round IMO

[slender bear]

Sorry what

[full quiver]

dk best class i n2s

[earnest zodiac]

I would NOT go this far lol

[full quiver]

NF UHDK + Rdruid is unkillable

[craggy socket]

DK is the worst class in the game

Got my first 2.1 last night boys, all be it, on my ret still! hyped!

boys and girls*

[full quiver]

@mystic barn

[elfin surge]

Dks are op

[earnest zodiac]

I genuinely disagree

What comps are you getting blown out of the water by with a DK

[slender bear]

Like how are we on a warrior discord and complaining about DK's <,<

[full quiver]

mud is 3300 on 5 warriors

[slender bear]

Like when UH bursts it can be scary as shit

[full quiver]

and he only loses to TSG

[elfin surge]

sp dk also broken

nerf dk

most broken melee in game

[warped warren]

true

[slender bear]

What is going on xD

[earnest zodiac]

yeah this is grade a shit posting lol

[slender bear]

Oh yes

Hi i r warrior hitting dk for 12021943283240 yet they are op

[warped warren]

yes

[full quiver]

yeah but then they hit IBF and spam death strike and are unkillable

[earnest zodiac]

disarm them on ibf

if they trink just reset

like thats a super gimme

[full quiver]

then they just keep gripping you into death's due and you slowly lose

[earnest zodiac]

what

yeah know what come to think of it

enh broken 2

just heal to full off one maelstrom totem heal

[undone pumice]

just kill totem xdddddddd

[sharp meteor]

enh feels like budget ret

that's better into wizards

[undone pumice]

enh is budget ret

because they have to wear mail and dont get to ascend

[sharp meteor]

enh kind of iffy because half the ladder is retwarr and

arms cleaves in general make enh sad

actually anything with a warrior

it's like disarm duel poor shaman doesn't get to play, then sharpen their heals

[undone pumice]

arms kill enh

very nice !

[slender bear]

for 9.2 we are gonna go kyrian + endruing aye?

enduring

[mystic barn]

cringe

[slender bear]

Cringe?

[mystic barn]

scoobs is being cringe @'ing me cuz dk is mentioned

[scarlet barn]

Dont mind QCP

And neither scoobs

[mystic barn]

dont mind razonko either

[sharp meteor]

I think that it's a good option.

Really, though, they loosened covenant restrictions so swapping around isn't a pain.

[slender bear]

Aye true

[scarlet barn]

I dont mind myself indeed

[plain wing]

NF or bust

meme one shots with unhinged

[slender bear]

hahaha yeah i see those on wow highlights

looks hillarious

[scarlet barn]

I see bigger oneshots with other covens

[sharp meteor]

nf an shit

kitty is like dhboomie rn

[raw summit]

I got no clue man it's just another thing we say to cope with bad System design

[sharp meteor]

and wym if timegating isn't there in some capacity people just burn out like they did with maw and island farming

they made everything super efficient and people want to spend more time grinding LMAO

make it make sense

[raw summit]

I like some grind

I liked the first rifts

Doing it on 5 characters is what makes it unfun

[sharp meteor]

yeah but max conduits for alts kind of overkill

although honestly with dece group the grind is doable in a sitting or two which is kind of what most people wanted tho isn't it

[mortal elm]

hey 3v3 is more fun

tan 2v2

actually

[sharp meteor]

ya it's so much better

[mortal elm]

it gives more conq honor too

[raw summit]

I gotta pug 3s at 0 xp/mmr just for the fun of it

Always looks cool in awc

[slender bear]

Jesus christ warriros are cool

[sharp meteor]

That's right.

[topaz ether]

What’s the consensus on the deaths charge nerf? Does it put warrior out of meta in 2’s?

[sharp meteor]

I thought that Arms was already outclassed by Hunters and Rogues.

It'll certainly be annoying for hunter matchups, and we'll probably get flooded with questions about that.

[undone pumice]

so basically

u just take war banner or smth now

[sharp meteor]

I think that you have to be super careful with your mobility

[full quiver]

guys

they remove DS infinite charge

but you can just run leaper + 8s spear

[slender bear]

Deaths charge?

[scarlet barn]

Death sentence he means

[slender bear]

Got it

Also thought that

[plain wing]

who needs death sentence

just one shot them in stun with unhinged and NF ability

[craggy socket]

Still on a short cd lol

[craggy socket]

How goes your PvP adventures man I remember last time i saw you here you were tilted af

[plain wing]

kinda taking a break

got to 2100 and am chillin

[jaunty furnace]

is being an orc that huge of a difference? Like every pvp player on the horde side plays as one

[wheat jay]

Shorter stuns

Against rmp

Is HUGE

[mortal elm]

dwhow to deal with

affli warlock?

[sharp meteor]

20% less time in stun equates to survving more goes

[minor vector]

racials won't make or break anything except climbs over 2.7-2.8 tbh

[sharp meteor]

as well as more damage as u spend less time in cc

[warped warren]

not rly

[minor vector]

but they're nice

[nimble jasper]

only good horde race

[full quiver]

Orc > Gnome > human

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about wod human with two damage trinkets

[twilit flax]

Play what u like

Orc racial is definitely an edge but at the end of the day it will only make or break every once in a while

U can make up for it with brute force and tact

Orc looks decent as war tho so might as well go orc

[mortal elm]

is 33 vers enough

i am 1750 rn last 50 rating :D but i just keep matched to 1900 ppl

dunno why

[elfin surge]

Orc or die

[nimble jasper]

its enough yes

[mortal elm]

someone said

kyrian is worse than necro on 2v2s

is it true

depths?

[sharp meteor]

actually idk they're both good/fine

[lucid walrus]

kyrian makes killing druids much easier

that said, throttling clothies in a banner window also feels fantastic. both strong

[sharp meteor]

100-0ing a hunter with a warbringer into sudden death is rather cathartic

[mortal elm]

but necro seems tankier

idk

[nimble jasper]

yes necro is the tanky cov

fleshcraft op

could prob ask @elfin surge thoughts on trying to kill rdruids as necro

[elfin surge]

fucking hate rdruids man

[mortal elm]

is it that bad?

[nimble jasper]

you wont kill an rdruid that doesnt int

without spear

generally

[full quiver]

rdruid is almost as OP as DK tbh

[elfin surge]

theres a reason i dont q healer/war 2s as necro

[full quiver]

can't wait for them to be + 10% healing

[nimble jasper]

big dam might kill

jk ns swiftmend

[elfin surge]

:catjamhypers: rdruids at mount speed all game

[sharp meteor]

my healer asks why i don't wanna queue 2s then 3 minutes into queueing 2s says that it looks like I'm not having fun

[nimble jasper]

rdruid survival hunter

[sharp meteor]

yes

[nimble jasper]

yeah i dont like playing the game either

[elfin surge]

Q feral/war in 2s

it makes 2s actually fun

[nimble jasper]

only saving grace of this

lack of good hunters on NA

[abstract stump]

big true

the only fun ive had in 2s

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, might have to try that.

[mortal elm]

i mean with a shaman

necro or kyrian is bettert

my necro renown is 50 rn so

dont actually wanna grind that

[nimble jasper]

i mean at lower mmr

you can prob get alot of double spear setups vs melee healer teams

by training their healer

[main silo]

I got a warlock that is mythic raider and im teaching him some pvp, but he want an easy way to disable all the pve addons he uses. Is there a easy way to do that?

He wants to remove all his pve shit when he play pvp

weak aura etc etc

[nimble jasper]

not really an “easy” way

besides just disabling addons

[full quiver]

boost a second warlock

[main silo]

xD ok ok

[nimble jasper]

i mean revo has a spaceship ui and it works for him

unless you got one of those super neckbeard streamer ui

[lucid walrus]

i recall seeing some mage that had a fighting game style UI

made no sense

[nimble jasper]

theres a mage who got over 3k in 3s

clicking

[lucid walrus]

jesus christ

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor in that situation... do you just instantly execute out of the charge? Or throw up any overpowers or Mortal Strikes before hand?

[sharp meteor]

Usually, yeah, although they already have wounds and smash on them.

then sharpen out with overpower charges

[slender bear]

How do you play against RM as Ret / war in 2's?

[nimble jasper]

playing war in 2s without a healer

or even feral

monka

[warped warren]

ret is bascally a healer

[sharp meteor]

ret enh and kot are all fine/good

[nimble jasper]

you can try dinging the rogue in a stormbolt on mage with hoj on rogue

but honestly feel rm should win matchup

if they have hands

[slender bear]

Got it thanks lads :>

[slender bear]

i apperantly hate my life

[full quiver]

i mean it depends on ur rating

[main silo]

can you disable WA in pvp?

[lucid walrus]

you can disable its triggers i think

unsure if arena entry is one of them

[somber comet]

This is what I did.

S1

No healer just arms and ret

I wanted to die.

:)))))))

[radiant hamlet]

Hows warrior looking on the ptr so far? Anyone did some extensive testing?

[slender bear]

Feels bad :<

I think warrior is in a pretty good place tbh on the PTR

[somber comet]

Warrior came@out good this expack

[radiant hamlet]

Nice. What are people leaning towards more? Kyr or necro?

Or are they still both pretty good?

[slender bear]

I was told Kyrian, since glory doesnt do crap

So kyrian leggo + enduring pretrty sure is go 2

[radiant hamlet]

Sounds good 😄 ive only ever tested fury, and in duels. And surprisingly it was a banger

[nimble jasper]

duels arent reflective of much

[radiant hamlet]

The fury tsets are really good

[nimble jasper]

some classes are just better at it

[slender bear]

Fury t sets seems insane

Especially for pve aswell

[nimble jasper]

yeah but fury pvp

no d stance

enraged regen can be kited

no sharpen

lmao

80 rage IP

[somber comet]

Fury is fine but you should be arms

[nimble jasper]

fury in pvp just feels like a gimped dh

[somber comet]

Unless of course

[radiant hamlet]

It probably wont see play on high mmrs but atleast now we have a spec to wpvp with 😂

[somber comet]

You’re NECRO LEAPER FURY

LEAPER legendary

[nimble jasper]

dh blur

[somber comet]

110% MS from rampage

[nimble jasper]

unironically superior to er

[somber comet]

Fleshcraft for double shield

[nimble jasper]

on 1/3 the cd

[somber comet]

Double weaps double stats

[nimble jasper]

with dodge built in

[radiant hamlet]

Necro leaper fury is insane fun

[somber comet]

Unkiteable

[radiant hamlet]

Add in battle trance and the victory rush talent and you wont die

[nimble jasper]

victory rush talent

requires you to be able to hit something

[radiant hamlet]

Thats why there’s leaper

[nimble jasper]

leaper vs disarm

tho

[radiant hamlet]

Yeah i mean it can be countered, but i was enjoying wpvp again as a war on ptr with that

[nimble jasper]

wpvp is actually a meme tbh

someone tries to pick a fight

loses

brings 4 friends

[radiant hamlet]

Lmao

The satisfaction of it is making someone rage at you after they lose a duel and then suddenly they know all about your life

Because somehow their ego got hurt

[sharp meteor]

me and the boys flying out to cave in the skull of some nerd who killed their wife/gf leveling an alt

pity the sharding or whatever got in the way of that

[plain wing]

How do u beat a warrior one on one, or even a rogue or Ret at that. Feels like a constant swap of disarm on cd’s… like I’m almost tempted to popp all cd’s… right into bladestorm, and then stun, and then disarm or something

[nimble jasper]

we talking warrior vs warrior?

[lucid walrus]

basically just do as much damage as you can and deny theirs to the best of your ability

[sharp meteor]

rend is fun in slap stick matchups

[nimble jasper]

rogue is uhh

you’ll never beat a rogue 1v1

lmao

[lucid walrus]

do you mean 2s/3s mirror match in the warr instance or a duel?

because this class doesn't do pure 1v1s really

[sharp meteor]

impending victory can catch some people off guard

[full quiver]

definitely saved some games from becoming a 2v2 or 1v1 by getting a cheeky impending victory off

after a kill

[sharp meteor]

me dead on the ground watching my dh and healer suffer through an 8 minute 2v2 because the dh isn't playing ms

[full quiver]

lmfao

[mortal elm]

its not worth to play a non 80 renown

covenant right?

in rated

[sharp meteor]

55-58 is all u need for the perks which takes like no time

[lucid walrus]

empowered conduits are nice but they're not gonna gatekeep you

80sec cd wall kinda neat doe

[sharp meteor]

yeah u get empowered conduits while doing bgs/ebgs for honor to upgrade conq pieces later

crazy inefficient to bother with them before u even start queuing heh

[lucid walrus]

my buddy's rsham isn't rocking sockets, full gear or conduits and we're nearly 2.3. kinda funny

[mortal elm]

okkey

nice to hear

ill try necro for 2s

after getting demolished from opposite necro warriors Xd

[lucid walrus]

spearing a necro on his banner is cathartic ngl. nothing wrong w/ kyrian

[sharp meteor]

yeah bolt spear is almost the entire banner, throw in a duel if they're hitting a teammate and they just do nothing

[lucid walrus]

play what you want though

chances are they'll trinket either the stun or disarm if they've got everything rolling tbh

[sharp meteor]

gotta send that mongo offensive parry then trinket the bolt

least they can't outplay duel

[lucid walrus]

ayup

[sharp meteor]

seriously tho wtf is kitty actual raid boss warrior

[lucid walrus]

really funny landing a spear point-blank on a mw's port near the start of a game

[sharp meteor]

also my goddamn spear disappeared midair twice yesterday

[lucid walrus]

tragic

[mortal elm]

missing spear hits too hard

[sharp meteor]

lining where it's going to land before it actually does seems to despawn it midair and it's the most annoying thing

[nimble jasper]

know whats the best

watching an rsham drop slt

then killing them faster with cleave damage

[sharp meteor]

watching them drop spirit link then dying anyways before the redistribution actually ticks

[undone pumice]

why does the rshams pet do dmg this isnt fair

[nimble jasper]

getting owned by dwayne

[undone pumice]

i remember when i had like

210pvp ilvl

and lost 1v1 to an rsham

[sharp meteor]

at no ilev should u ever beat an rsham 1v1

[undone pumice]

what

am i just supposed to lose a 1v1 to a healer

[sharp meteor]

yes

[lucid walrus]

pretty much

[sharp meteor]

in every realistic scenario anyways

[undone pumice]

why

is the game like this

[lucid walrus]

arms pretty much crutched on older and more busted versions of second wind to win 1v1s in previous xpacs

barring those it was never a 1v1 spec

[undone pumice]

i lost 1v1 in arena

because everyone else wa sjust stealth

[lucid walrus]

happens

[undone pumice]

1v1 with extra steps

so what made sw op in old xpacs

[lucid walrus]

it wasn't what it is now

MOP gave % health back per second when you were below 40% or so

wrath gave rage and hp when you were rooted and did the same as mop's iirc

[undone pumice]

H U H ?

[lucid walrus]

ah. yeah this is the wrath one

[undone pumice]

are you telling me

this was in the game

warriors being a good 1v1 clas sbecause of 1 talent

[sharp meteor]

somebody link him mop second wind

[lucid walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QR8QaDkP1A good example here

you would think he's dead the entire game and he basically would be if not for that talent

his priest goes down around 2:20 and it's just 5min of boxing

[undone pumice]

why did he almost 1 shot the shaman instantly

wtf bro

[sharp meteor]

u can do that right now :))

[undone pumice]

tauren also had increased melee range in older expacs or was that just classic

[lucid walrus]

wait til he finds out about taste for blood

that was through tbc i think

[undone pumice]

yeah but then the shaman is gonna heal to full 7 times

and rot me down with gis pet

while i get laughed at by a rogue in stealth

[lucid walrus]

ayup

[elder wigeon]

back when you only got disarmed for 4 seconds

[lucid walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBgr7ievPAs another suggested viewing

[sharp meteor]

thinking about her (weapon chain)

[elder wigeon]

wasn't weapon chain

was a passive for being an arms warrior, master of weapons

[sharp meteor]

oh i remember it also being a set bonus at one point

was that what it was for arms?

mop was so long ago

[lucid walrus]

2012

10 years

wait wtf

[nimble jasper]

you can 1 deag someone now

[sharp meteor]

was in this run and talking about wrath with somebody else and this one guy is like dam i wasn't alive then

[nimble jasper]

sudden death proc necro orc badge pop

with winbringer

[lucid walrus]

jesus

[lucid walrus]

so used to saying wrath was 10 yrs ago

[sharp meteor]

when somebody says five years ago im like yeah mop

they're like uhh no legion idiot

[lucid walrus]

actually unreal

[twilit flax]

I felt times passed slowly tbh

Even tho some things feel like yesterday

Overall 10 years ago does seem like it was quite a while ago if you think about life in general

Maybe that's just me

[undone pumice]

10 years isnt even half my life kek

[lucid walrus]

first month or so of covid was a drag

combined with time either flying by or completely slogging. that's life in general tho

[undone pumice]

yep

shadowlands been out for a year too already no?

[lucid walrus]

well over a year

dropped late 2020

[undone pumice]

yep

like 16 months or so

[twilit flax]

Yeah those elem/highschool years pass fast

[undone pumice]

crazy to think i gotta find a real job soon and cant spend all day on wow

[twilit flax]

Sad but it must be done

[lucid walrus]

i just work on the side when classes don't kick my teeth in tbh

[twilit flax]

U work play wow and go to school lol?

I couldn't work or play wow during school. I did it in my first year and I did terrible

Dropped both , ate alot of chic peas and rice

[lucid walrus]

wow's just an evening thing for me. q at night on a degen schedule when my friends are around mostly

[twilit flax]

But I did way better

[undone pumice]

chick pea enjoyer

honestly one of the worst foods imo

[twilit flax]

Yeah but there's this thing in psychology where when your brain always has a choice it makes things super difficult

Do I play wow now? In 30? Do I play for 1 hr? 2? Should I go to bed? 1 more hr. Okay maybe 2

[twilit flax]

It's all about how you cook em bro

My chic peas are next level

You can also desguise there taste. Just them them wish masalaa

[undone pumice]

eggs are my go to cheap food

[twilit flax]

Eggs are good

[undone pumice]

mm egg

[twilit flax]

I go off them alot though. I eat them consistently then just get sick of them lol

[lucid walrus]

currently conditioning myself to stop doing this by making these increments smaller

[undone pumice]

yeah

[twilit flax]

Like everyday for 3-4 weeks then a 1.5 month break

[lucid walrus]

feel like shit when i wake up -->"ok in 5min i'm gonna get ready for my 10:45"

[undone pumice]

sometimes i eat eggs like everyday for a week then other times only like once a week

[twilit flax]

I think the only truly way to do this is just be super casual with the game, care less about it. As little as possible

Then u get less dopamine playing or thinking about it

And u can focus on other thing

When I get super into wow it's like crack

[lucid walrus]

it's less about the game and more a general thing

[twilit flax]

[undone pumice]

u just want 1 thing to feed u constant dopamine u can always do

[lucid walrus]

i knock out most stuff on my to-do in one go if it's like a paper or something. just a matter of actually getting myself to sit down & do it

[twilit flax]

What u mean

[undone pumice]

videogames, a hobby, whatever pickles your ticjle

[twilit flax]

I guess. But there is a difference between knocking out a paper

And actually going hammy on the paper with focus

U know what I mean

[lucid walrus]

referring to this except it's not wow killing productivity or anything

i feel you

[twilit flax]

If wow is on my mind I'm just not fully there

I'm like in Azeroth

Writing the paper on my mobile

[lucid walrus]

fair, yeah

[twilit flax]

Yeah

I found single player games didn't do this to me so much

Could pick up here and there

[undone pumice]

single player games have to really really engross me to keep me playibg them

[twilit flax]

Wow just so much time sink

[undone pumice]

cant play them for more than like 1 or 2 playthroughs

[twilit flax]

That's cuz deep down u know u gotta grind honor

Like a good blizz drone

[undone pumice]

nobo

i dont need bear currency

i need mage currency

[twilit flax]

Me grind honor, me that kinda orc

[undone pumice]

me not that kind of orc

i must return to korthia and skin bears

[twilit flax]

Dem scalehides

[undone pumice]

shardhides

im comij for all of you

[twilit flax]

I actually don't mind farming mats here or there

Because I'm not forced to do it to be competive in pvp

They want us to do BG's so bad, give us some conq gear for it !

[undone pumice]

i farm mats to sell them and ah and get undercut by bots because i play on kne of the biggest german realms

you either die a farmer or live long enough to see yourself become an undercutter

[twilit flax]

I got lots of old mats but they ain't selling right now

The warbear leather and stuff

Hopefully in 9.2 they'll sell

[undone pumice]

back when expansion launched and heavy callous hide sold for 6k

big nut

[twilit flax]

Lol

Eh

[undone pumice]

now it onky sells for like 300

[twilit flax]

They'll go back up

The cycle continue

[undone pumice]

no

eternal crystals sell for 20g

just vendor the items at this point

[twilit flax]

I havnt done much current content farming so I don't know much about it

I only came back 3 weeks ago

Do u just get them from disenchanting?

[undone pumice]

yep

[twilit flax]

One of my toon filled with greens and blues but I been to busy to do them yet

[undone pumice]

i think only from purples

[narrow beacon]

what missives for legs lego for kyrian?

haste/vers? or crit/vers

[elder wigeon]

your choice

most play crit

[narrow beacon]

k thank u

[undone pumice]

does necro go crit too?

[elder wigeon]

both

haste and crit are your best stats as both covenants

[undone pumice]

damn

[elder wigeon]

most are crit heavy though

as either covenant

[undone pumice]

just crit vers every piece got it

[sharp meteor]

crit heaavy just swings so many games especially as kitty holy fk

or male tauren necro ret donking you in from 100% with a wings proc and vanq hammer in a warstomp

[elder wigeon]

I like half/half

[undone pumice]

me when the boxes give me mastery on my chest

[mortal elm]

ayy necro is actually very fun in pvp

[sharp meteor]

big dam, run fast, etc

i find it beneficial to get mortal strike up, build op charges and IDEALLY have a sudden death charge up before sending big go

[mortal elm]

yeah

literal one shot

at one game i jsut charged priest

sended big burst

mortal combo and dead

i was wondering like do they ahve a cheat death or smt

[sharp meteor]

u can also like warbreaker people while moving away and they won't use a defensive

[mortal elm]

last game dont know why but priest got max hp with a shadow mend

[sharp meteor]

then u can execute charge back

[mortal elm]

fae ferals are dog tho

1 time you cant cc them your healer dies

[lucid walrus]

with a leggo they do

fairly sure they lose some solid throughput from taking it though

[mortal elm]

GUYS

I DID IT

i finally fucking did it

ty for everyone chatted and helped me to get thourgh it

how hard is hitting 2100 now :D

[lucid walrus]

mostly a mechanics check

2s inflated rn so not that bad

[safe pecan]

Trust me when I say I managed to hit 2.5 and Im a rucking monkey

Its really easy just play

If I did it a blind person can

[elder wigeon]

2.1 is like 1800 ~3 months ago

very easy

[mortal elm]

I mean i gain 16 while lose 8 rating

if this stays like this yeah its kinda ez

[lucid walrus]

that mmr's solid then

tail end of the season tends to be easier

[somber warren]

Hi, If I'm looking to push rating (hopefully glad) with a ret and a healer, would necro be better for the banner buffing the Ret, or Kyrian for keeping stuff together? When searching I'm seeing conflicting information on which to do with that specific comp

So far I've gotten to 1800 with the Ret as Necro but I'm not sure if that's just because the damage is taking unprepared teams off guard and if it's still worthwhile at higher ratings

[elder wigeon]

necro war is best for ret war

[somber warren]

Got it, thank you

[sharp meteor]

Have seen both. Necro is easier imo, just conq with wings and run at people.

[sharp meteor]

Works to 3k+ :))

[sage raptor]

Congrats!

[floral ingot]

Just keep grinding and you’ll be there in no time

When I was doing my zero to hero I was pretty sure I was hardstuck numerous times

Like I played on 2000 for a while and thought that was the highest I’d be able to go this season
Then I got to 2100 and thought the same thing
Then 2200, etc

[somber warren]

Awesome, thank you!

[floral ingot]

Just gotta grind and everything will come with enough experience

[elder wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291261700504551426/941221816704315482/unknown.png

pog

[raw summit]

Gz

Huge gamer

[floral ingot]

Gratz

Omega Pog

[elder wigeon]

thanks guys 😁

[slender bear]

Man I just started playing the warrior yseterday again with some decent PvP gear - holy shit this dude is to much fun.

[elder wigeon]

warrior is fun until people know how to shut you down 😅

[slender bear]

Isnt that hte same with every class besides stupid rogue / mage?

the*

[elder wigeon]

sorta

it's just exceptionally annoying to get disarmed instantly on your warbreaker every single time

[slender bear]

Oh yes

But you could say it the other way around we do the same thing to other melees

I just used to play WW, disarming war with WB or rogues within dance and blades is hillarious.

[raw summit]

Agree

[elder wigeon]

most melees aren't shut down quite as hard by disarm

[raw summit]

Should i ever get my wb disarmed and then try pressure with ava spear?

[elder wigeon]

you can, that's an option

I just would try to outplay the disarm when possible with bladestorm or other crowd control

[raw summit]

Ty

[elder wigeon]

like, I bolt warriors a lot when I want to warbreaker

especially when playing kitty

I always bolt warriors no matter what when I warbreaker

intervenes and disarms shut you down too hard

[nimble jasper]

monks are unaffected by disarm tbh

its real dumb

[elder wigeon]

if my healer or other dps can cc the warrior and I don't have to bolt, then whatever but the overwhelming majority of times I just bolt warrior

[nimble jasper]

also monk disarm is dumb as shit

ranged and goes through parries

[elder wigeon]

yeah lol

[slender bear]

Oh yes it is, but i must admit i loved disarming warriors on their highest point haha

But now i am one

[nimble jasper]

anytime i'd disarm rogues on my monk

"oh yeah im so good at the game"

30 yd disarm

/s

[raw summit]

Disarmed cant parry

[elder wigeon]

kek

we love it

[raw summit]

Dude i wasnt aware of that

Im like "i live with parry"

[nimble jasper]

also where does this giant meme

[raw summit]

Insta dead

[nimble jasper]

of rogue blades being a major dps cd

come from

[elder wigeon]

blades dance and reprimand is scary as fuck

[nimble jasper]

ER is the scary part

blades is like

eh

i just assume I can take the chode anytime stun dr is up

[elder wigeon]

dance and reprimand isn't as scary but it's a lot of damage

[nimble jasper]

reprimand is the spooky part since its likely

you eat multiple 7 pters

in the stun

or the real mongo play

venthyr with crit lego

[slender bear]

Most rogues actually went NF it seems after the ER nerf

Okay ignore me

I am idiot

[lean island]

wich leg i should craft now for my war? idk if there are some changes in 9.2 🙂 i'm kyrian

[slender bear]

I am gonna run KYirna leggo + Enduring

Think its gonna hurt as hell 😄

[lean island]

ok, what I thought 🙂 so i start with kyri leggo now

and for ilvl is worth to buy now 265? or better save money and take a lowest one, the price should go down next patch right?

[proper depot]

Hey guys, just wondering with the cancelaura, start attack, ability macro, does it need to be casted twice or should everything happen on the same press?

[tired portal]

the price next patch may temporarily increase if people stop farming korthite crystals in korthia

[slender bear]

tbh yeah, depends on your gold fortune lol

[exotic gyro]

is it worth to craft my leggy on feet instead of legs for the set bonuses in 9.2 if i dont have alot of money?

[tired portal]

if its the kyrian legendary, and you are short of money, craft on whatever is the cheapest slot as you get a free covenant legendary in 9.2 on your waist (costs some in-game currency though (not gold))

[exotic gyro]

oh okay thanks

[warm quiver]

Got to play some kfc last night. Was super fun. Not so much into caster cleaves though.

[knotty tangle]

Isnt kfc a b tier comp?

Like, even worse than double dh

[lean island]

kfc? is war hunter?

[raw summit]

Chicken

Boomkin

[scarlet barn]

🗞️

[raw summit]

I Mixed it up

[scarlet barn]

smh

[raw summit]

All that rsham dh boomie got to my head

[knotty tangle]

Kfc is warr hunt yeah

[lean island]

is better to put versa crit o haste on enduring blow leg ? i'm kyri and wanna add the kyri leg in 9.2

[grand light]

Crit

[sand shadow]

Both are good

[frigid bear]

Just was reading pins but didn't see a clear answer. Is Kyrian going to be king in 9.2 due to necro leggo sucking the large one?

[sand shadow]

Necro will continue to be very good

no clue why people think the Necro leggo sucks as much as they do, it's really not that bad

[frigid bear]

banner duration per rage spent doesn't seem 'great'

compared to unhinged / spear leggos

[sand shadow]

You can easily pool rage in the current meta, meaning you could be spending up to 200 rage during Banner, which is 5sec of banner more. Banner also procs your Conduit, giving you like what, 20% str amp? Which means it will synergize with the 4pc set (ovrprw giving str). In addition, it will also affect your entire team in 3s

Don't forget that while giving your healer mastery might not seem like a great thing, some healers do love it, and it is a plus

furthermore, you'll be giving them a slow supression and sprint as well

also don't forget that the new 2pvp trinket set bonus is str, so another str amp

in addition to all the normal Necrolord goodies, such as Fleshcraft, Ultimate Form, Ooze, Kevin, etc

[undone pumice]

kevin

[raw summit]

OldDonkey is a chad

Great explanation as always

[sand shadow]

Kevin is insane

[raw summit]

Keeps their rogue in combat randomly

Also damage

And cute

[sand shadow]

6% dmg amp on targets it spits on

the spit dmg itself is fairly irrelevant

[undone pumice]

kevin

[sand shadow]

[floral ingot]

We like Kevin

Ate a freezing trap for my healer once

We don’t deserve Kevin

[sand shadow]

Kevin once helped me through depression and alcoholism

[raw summit]

Kevin once bought me a house when i was homeless and alone

[undone pumice]

kevin once saved an entire starving village in africa

[raw summit]

My guy your pfp is great

[floral ingot]

Kevin once made this guy an awesome pfp

[steep spade]

Executioner or enduring blow? Currently Venthyr but may switch to Necrolord at 80 renown

[undone pumice]

dont be venthyr

[main copper]

Step one - craft Enduring Blow
Step two - play anything but Venthyr.

[fickle forge]

Is this the statement of some skillcapped video?

[warped warren]

kfc is s+++

[full quiver]

KFC is dog shit

[steep spade]

Cheers guys - First time playing today since September ish last year xD TRying to catch up on what's working and what's not

[knotty tangle]

Naah paraphrased some r1 hunters

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

Who?

I wanna know too tbh

[amber heron]

YO guys

why the fuck am i losing to fury warriors

in 2v2

does fury beat arms in 2v2

i actually cant win for my life

im not being outplayed

[oblique mountain]

I need some quick referance for arms pvp, anyone have resources or can point me to some on the channel that im missing?

[amber heron]

what do u need to know

im only 2100 rated but i can help u

[sand shadow]

@amber heron no, you're stronger

[undone pumice]

fury heala more

better 1v1 spec but thats about it

[oblique mountain]

essentially what legendaries are doing the best right now for general pvp play, im not competitive but pvp is what i like, and im casual, plus im all confused on whats going to be the best with the covenant legendary combo next patch

play style is fine, been playing war for years, im just lost on the gearing right now

[undone pumice]

enduring blow and elysian might

[craggy socket]

9.2 comin

feb 22

[jaunty furnace]

The amount of people raging that it’s to short of a notice LOL

[warped warren]

its always 2 weeks

🤔

[full quiver]

that's not two week notice though

kek

[mortal elm]

can i hit 2100 from 1800 in 13 days?

:P

[magic lance]

You can hit it in an hour

[mortal elm]

if you dont lose

xD

[magic lance]

So don’t lose

[mortal elm]

[neon pecan]

Do you think necro will still be as viable as Kyrian in 9.2. in 2s?

[nimble jasper]

I mean people got glad playing venthyr this season

so idk why that'd be too much of a stretch

[jaunty furnace]

Yeah but you know how the WoW community is lol and if you look at the wowhead post on Twitter lots of people complaining that it’s 2 days short

[fierce elm]

We have had enough time to do shit

anyone who hasnt had enough time can go fuck themselves

[warped warren]

my alts man ....

[full quiver]

win count

[fierce elm]

YOU HAVE HAD LIKE 40 ALTS SINCE WEEK 1 @warped warren

[warped warren]

ok?

[warped warren]

!wincount

[twilit ridge]

I wish season ended Tuesday

I'd be hero and never rbg again

[knotty tangle]

People still rbg?

[lucid walrus]

time to watch xunamate trends for the next week

[pale minnow]

Thanks god finnaly next season is coming, in 2023 of course

[fickle forge]

It's 12-13 days

You gonna mald over missing a day?

[full quiver]

it's 12 days monkey boy

not two weeks

[scarlet barn]

But

Glad is izi

[twilit ridge]

people who aren't good at pvp rbg

Which is why hero is so low

I just wanna have my glad and hero

or rather most rbgers are ass, the ones who don't touch arena

[knotty tangle]

Lmao playing ret warr at 2.1 mmr with a ret pala that dosnt know what macroes are, hvnt bound bubble and dosnt want to heal others with wog

Wtf is this comp

[wheat jay]

Last patch it was 10 days notice

[barren crane]

MW BM

what do except get kited like an ass

[knotty tangle]

Hug pillar

[twilit ridge]

BM

Just save your connects and cuck bm

Trade and hit him hard

[full quiver]

🤣

[mortal elm]

no added bnet partners are responding

time to go pug

[jaunty furnace]

Someone help me get 1800 in RBG

The pug life is rough

[raw summit]

why rbg

[jaunty furnace]

To get the Replica gear