pvp

[sharp meteor]

i have instantly killed so many peoples pets

like before they can exhil

[wheat jay]

ye

it just dies

i hate having a pet

worst shit in the game

[sharp meteor]

haeler hotted it mend pet up

goes from 80 to 0 in a global

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor im laughing so hard

killed a dh 100-0

[sharp meteor]

LMAO same

[nimble jasper]

through cocoon

[sharp meteor]

so i feared dh and his rsham

rsham trinkets instantly

dh already dead

[nimble jasper]

oh nah

the mw didnt trinket

and i just clapped the last 10% on his dh

[sharp meteor]

tragic

also wow does disc turbo feel bad into jungle

[fierce elm]

Anything else turbo feels alright into jungle tho

cant they just train disc

[sharp meteor]

yeah rdruid turb we usually eat it

but haven't queued into too many good ones

usually lots of overlap

[amber heron]

@high veldt

@ocean storm

@gaunt oar

what cov will fire mages be in 9.2?

for RMP

[ocean storm]

Yes

[warped warren]

oof

[elder wigeon]

wtf

night fae likely, the CDR on their stuff is too good, necrolord maybe, the procs might be cracked

[knotty tangle]

sorry if this is a retarded question asked 100 times, but will kyrian warr probably be prio next patch?

[elder wigeon]

too hard to tell what's going to be meta for sure, but kyrian will definitely be good next patch

very strong covenant legendary and being able to run enduring or another dps lego will make kyrian extremely strong

[warped warren]

necro fo sho fr fr no cap

[knotty tangle]

basically just started warrior after never playing it, is it kinda hard to learn? or only hard to master?

[warped warren]

easy to play

hard part is to pre press stuff into comps that will kill you in a cc if you dont press anything before it happens

but that comes with practice

[knotty tangle]

cool

time to put in some hours after gym, thanks for answering

[elder wigeon]

warrior is kind of hard to master not because it's mechanically challenging, it's hard to deny the ability to stop you, which is hard

and if you can't consistently deny their stops with proper setups and CC, it's hard to set yourself from others at least in terms of damage

[warped warren]

also that

[elder wigeon]

warrior is very easy to pick up though

low skill floor, high skill ceiling

it's sorta like that for all classes right now though, the game is just hard in a lot of ways

[knotty tangle]

well i played bm to 2,4 in 2s, so not used to very high skill ceiling

[elder wigeon]

yeah bm has a lower skill floor than warrior I'd say, and not as high of a skill ceiling, maybe that's arrogance, but BM is seriously easy

[knotty tangle]

it really is

[raw summit]

Whaaz once said you could 2.4 as BM without having trap bound

Says something abt the spec

[knotty tangle]

yeah i tried a couple games on 2.6 mmr without trapping

won like 3 out of 10 if i remember right

[warped warren]

its not about not trapping

its playing as if you would trap

but dont

to put pressure on them

not knowing when you will trap

im pretty sure

[wheat jay]

you don't need to trap, you need enemies to know you can trap them

ez

[raw summit]

They think it's all mind games while you dont have it bound

[knotty tangle]

Well, actually the hardest part of playing bm in 2s is knowing when not to trap

Atleast thats what ive experienced

[bleak sage]

What is the general setup when playing war/spriest

[elder wigeon]

get a good spear on the cleave going your priest, or whatever else you're trying to kill, priest drops psyfiend somewhere that's hard to kill while your sham and sp spam purge any hots/buffs and you just chop their head off, sharpen when they kill psyfiend

kill through all defensive CDS and profit

[floral ingot]

I swear dh players are so bad

[elder wigeon]

nah dh is gonna be good still

[floral ingot]

Getting carried by boomies while doing their pve rotation

[elder wigeon]

A tier minimum

[floral ingot]

2.5k dhs press blur for no reason

Like

You sneeze, they blur

Then you pop everything and OS his ass in 2 globals

[elder wigeon]

dh is pretty squishy, their health is very volatile

[floral ingot]

Works 80% of the games

[elder wigeon]

but they heal a lot and have blur off cd every 40 sec

[floral ingot]

Ye

Still, it just shows how easy the spec is when ppl above 2.5k rating press blur first global for no reason

Had one guy use blur right out of the gate, after that trinket dark our cds

And then jump out of his darkness instantly

To chase our healer

[fierce elm]

Warrior isnt much better kek

[floral ingot]

Shit was so funny, he died literally 2 seconds after leaping away

[floral ingot]

True

War boomie is also pretty strong

Glad to hear that Druid kyrian legendary is getting nerfed

We’ll see if that’s enough

[fierce elm]

Warr disarminh bevause of anger

[floral ingot]

Warrs disarm at such random times as well
7/10 warriors press their disarm right after you disarm them

Cause they’ve got no other buttons to press

[elder wigeon]

yeah that's always funny at lower ratings

the tilt disarms

so bad LMAO

[steep inlet]

Massive suck

To disarm a guy that disarmed you

But he doesn’t burst

[floral ingot]

I don’t even know what is a lower rating anymore

Guess 2500 is kinda low cause top players are at like 3600+

[knotty tangle]

Damn, insta 1900 mmr on this warrior.. This shit kinda busted

[fierce elm]

1600 @floral ingot

below that is like average iirc

[elder wigeon]

It’s just an observation of Lower rated players than me

[lone ermine]

Warriors in BGs: run in and die

anyone else experience the same?

[gleaming girder]

Is haste still stat priority for necro? I am seeing a lot of crit/verse builds

[raw summit]

versa is a must

after that its personal preference

more globals during banner or more chance to get stupidly high damage during banner

[knotty tangle]

whats the most important tip you wish you had known when you started playing warr?

[fierce elm]

That rating doesnt matter

[knotty tangle]

wtf matters then?

[fierce elm]

Fun

The more you worry about rating the more you are gonna generally be miserable/burnout/tilt

[knotty tangle]

good tip

[fierce elm]

Dont wanna be the guy to rant the fuck outta busted classes

[knotty tangle]

well everything kinda busted in some way

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-when-everyones-super-gif-10466529

[unreal holly]

hey how tf do you deal with double casters

i am at 1.9s and always lose to that

3s

[scarlet barn]

I still am

[sharp meteor]

run from cds

go with cds

cycle kicks/dispels on ua

shadow takes it in the teeth

[jaunty furnace]

What does the elite set look like for next season?

[steep inlet]

horseshit

[sharp meteor]

at least class sets are back maybe next tier

[craggy socket]

New to warrior do I ever wanna use slam?

[floral ingot]

During cds if you’ve got nothing else to use

[safe pecan]

U guys dont press am outside cd’s ??

Wait wut

I always have enough rage to slam IP so I wouldn’t see the point in not pressing slam

[fierce elm]

Slam if you dont have MS - OP - IP - Hamstring on targets

there

[sharp meteor]

usually it's when you're bursting during cds, can be used outside of that but also very easy to rage starve yourself which can delay important abilities

[nimble jasper]

not if you use bis macro

[sharp meteor]

heh

[visual cradle]

Morning folks. How should my gear look before I start doing 0 rating 2s to climb?

[sharp meteor]

The higher ilev and vers the better

[knotty tangle]

Just spam arena tbh, buy gear when you can.

You will push further and further as gear progresses

[sharp meteor]

ya need wins for conq dw about climbing if your gear is in shambles

[floral ingot]

What Afro said

Very rare scenarios in which it is good to press

Spam bis macro, press hamstring and OP

[sharp meteor]

too easy to outplay yourself mashing slam like you're a dh

[floral ingot]

Tbh dh doesn’t have slam

There is nothing to press wrongly in Dhs rotation

[sharp meteor]

you can mash chaos strike too much and prevent yourself from immediately using a stun which is SUPER funny to see them do

[knotty tangle]

what macro are you guys memeing about?

[raw summit]

This has the same energy as
#showtooltip ignore pain
/cast revenge

[knotty tangle]

holy, im 16-3 today at 1900 mmr

with 240 item level

pogchamp

[sharp meteor]

[knotty tangle]

Man i love kyrian spear

[scarlet barn]

I swear

[knotty tangle]

Is that the african macro?

[sharp meteor]

no it's the bis macro

[knotty tangle]

Time to spam it then, wish me luck

[floral ingot]

This macro is insane, it increases your win rate by -20%

They said it couldn’t be done

[sharp meteor]

thinkin about tryin bonegrinder and crafting seismic reverb

[warped warren]

have fun

[magic lance]

is there a good way to get some decent starter gear on a new 60 or should I just go into torghast to start grinding soul ash and renown

[nimble jasper]

mail over conquest/valor boxes from main

[magic lance]

I don't have conquest

[sharp meteor]

you farm conq on a bigger char then mail boxes over otherwise not really

[full quiver]

Don't do toreghast until you have hear

[knotty tangle]

What scoobz said

Or you can farm 2s or 3s around 1k mmr

Quick af games

[jagged cedar]

Where can you exchange for the boxes ?

[elder wigeon]

Next to the flight master in Oribos

[floral ingot]

Yay, i hit glad with lfg

The real 0 to hero

[sharp meteor]

Grats.

[cedar silo]

Randomly found out my neighbour is a former 2700 rated healer

Imma coerce him into helping me

[cedar silo]

gz friend

[floral ingot]

You can do it, lfg is basically play enough games and you’ll get glad

[sharp meteor]

Yeah but then you have to play with the denizens of lfg

[cedar silo]

its mainly the "play 2 games then ditch" crowd im not fond of

idm losing games

[floral ingot]

True

[sharp meteor]

That's 90% of people and why they don't have regular partners

[cedar silo]

Enh from guild might want to try glad

and then i found my neighbor playing rdruid

[sharp meteor]

Rdruid turb is a pretty great time

[cedar silo]

we had a ton of fun

spear enabling the waddling shaman xd

[sharp meteor]

Yaa

Spear can set up for ascend so enemy team can't disarm/duel it, but otherwise is super good for doom

Necro is okay/good into stuff you don't have to worry about uptime on, like sp

[floral ingot]

Last game was ele aff Rdruid on tolviron

I cba

[sharp meteor]

tedious

[floral ingot]

This shit was so annoying

[sharp meteor]

just played like a 11 minute match vs demo sp

eventually lock just dies through wall and pact in a spear

[floral ingot]

Especially cause I was necro

No way to connect like at all

Good thing Druid got greedy 10 mins into the game

[floral ingot]

I swear wizards are on the rise

In 9.2 with Stam buff from trinket set bonus it’s gonna be wizard meta

[craggy socket]

Wizards ain’t shit but hoes and tricks

[floral ingot]

Mage turns someone into a rabbit and then lock makes him disappear

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor i swear some people that q rdruid warrior

belong 500 pts lower than where they are

in 2s

[high sapphire]

if i want to play both kyrian and necro depending on comp, which should i focus on: crit or haste?

[cedar silo]

feel like dh rsham boomkin is same in 3s

arguably retwar as well xd

[lucid walrus]

crit necro is fine. haste kyrian is fine. it's preference

[high sapphire]

aight

[sharp meteor]

there are people playing mixtures of all the stats as both covs it just kind of depends on preferences and what you're queuing

even saw one fellow playing super heavy mastery with signet

[nimble jasper]

good dhs are rare af

[sharp meteor]

yeah can't even tell them apart anymore

[nimble jasper]

the legion r1 dhs

only ones for me

the good ones main diff is they know how to just kite you

when you try to push in with any real damage

[elder wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaiZLg1mCqI kitty is good

[sharp meteor]

sometimes that's how it goes

[thick reef]

yea

[sharp meteor]

queued into that ww not too long ago and i think he got the most procs i have ever seen a ww get in a short game

[thick reef]

44/50 wins omfg

haha yea ww can be insane

[sharp meteor]

usually it's just peel the bonedust/keefers/images

[thick reef]

yea

[nimble jasper]

keyabop

im in a cord with him

@sharp meteor wanna hear something scuffed

banfranklin

[sharp meteor]

[nimble jasper]

banwell on rogue is uhh something interesting

[olive owl]

can you hit a DH in the back during blur?

[sharp meteor]

i distinctly recall being dodged on my step-kidneys during bfa

i think overpower goes through but dh during blur is just hard if u don't have cc

dodge chance might still be bugged

[lucid walrus]

OP definitely does

[fierce elm]

its 92% dodge

[nimble jasper]

psure dhs are the only class

that can dodge from behind

why? who knows

[fierce elm]

We said fuck it yesterday and just started running down healers and rando surprise swapping to dh

[sharp meteor]

yeah feels kind of like craven where u wanna try to force it without really using anything

often get it just cleaving off somebody heavily like the healer and sometimes swap with bolt

and if they can't blur out they get dinged

[fierce elm]

cba going through blur, nether, dark, fleshcraft

[sharp meteor]

yep

[fierce elm]

We got a juicy 22k MS into 22k execute throuh bark and dark yesterday

felt good

[sharp meteor]

dark is so funny with big hits

100-0 dh with three swings one time

another time the entire go does zero dam

[fierce elm]

y

blessed by RNG

[nimble jasper]

dark prob fucks vs monk

cuz of how many smol hits

assuming they dont rop it

[thick reef]

yooo

[sharp meteor]

owo -rsks u for 40k-

[nimble jasper]

prob is altho hard to measure

since its like

3 10k rsks from the monk and his clones

monk has given me the most hilarious dings of the season

[sharp meteor]

have u seen serenity monk yet

or serenity summer monk

[nimble jasper]

just serenity yes

i killed an hpal once in a skirm with it

cuz 25k rsk 26k bonedust

[sharp meteor]

im still upset about losing to double ww the other day, my sham didn't trust me to peel 💀

[nimble jasper]

literally globaled

double killing rsham team cuz he trinket links

a double proc keefer’s go while they’re stacked

[sharp meteor]

i love ending dh/boom by killing all three at the same time in a link

[nimble jasper]

triple proc also great

killing a sham through trinket link and ascendance

💀

anytime i play monk tho all the rogue mage teams come out of the woodwork

[eager iron]

💯

[main copper]

Game needs more Rogue Mages, it's lovely when I get a break from BM Resto 😂

[sharp meteor]

queue 3s with an rdruid and beat the shit out of jun*gle players

[prime acorn]

new to pvp...should i run trinket and shackles?

[sinful sun]

Anyone else get destroyed by aff locks?

[twilit flax]

U have to line them

[sharp meteor]

There are probably certain matchups where maledict is good, but I think it's usually the more conservative option to just play insignia for throughput, badge for goes and battlemaster for another cd.

[sharp meteor]

I usually break their spriests knees.

[twilit flax]

Real pain

Ww make the rouge mage moist

But they are skill remember bcs complexity and dr yes yes

[sharp meteor]

backstab does 200 dmg pls understand

owo -does 250% of your health in a kidney-

[nimble jasper]

Surprisingly only game we lost to rogue mage

was a venthyr memer

i mean i doubt i could have saved trinket from gpy bomb go though

so its w/e

[sharp meteor]

Whenever I get dueled my sham is like AAAA CHAIN HARVEST LIIIIIVE and it usually works

[twilit flax]

Not surprising at all. Rogue mage are all Elo inflated players

[sharp meteor]

current incarnation of rm is actually so obnoxious

raid boss mage just sits there controllling you while rogue runs for re

[nimble jasper]

i had games where im like

[twilit flax]

It's all skill and determination man

[nimble jasper]

ok we lose if they just wait for drs

and rogue just comes out for no reason

literal

????

[twilit flax]

Hours of sweat and tears

Blood spilt

[nimble jasper]

banwell rogue

bombs me

stands too out of his bomb

to get chastised

[twilit flax]

U gotta get them when they are tired

And end of queue session

That's when they slip up

[sharp meteor]

i queued into a vulpera rogue/mage who both had a bunch of lick emotes bound into their abilities and i think my healer would've deleted his acc if we lost that game

[twilit flax]

Lmao

[sharp meteor]

i just want chill games and i hear "WORGEN WITH GLASSES CANT LOSE OH GOD SHES ON MOONGUARD TOO"

actually everybody i play with has beef with so many people

[nimble jasper]

also ran into rdruid warrior

where the druid decides to trinket meld a bonedust sweep

at 20%

as if meld stops the spin meme

[twilit flax]

Only player I know is swifty

And we ain't got no beef

[sharp meteor]

trinketing a dr'd cc to mash execute proc on a 39% hp rogue watching them vanish and immediately dying anyways

reckless play of the month

[nimble jasper]

altho i never understood

why legit q into 4 diff rogue mages

none of them tried going healer mid go

after dps cds

[sharp meteor]

idk every team is going that to me now and i dont like it

if u don't use INSTANTLY u die to bust

and because u use instantly they can swap cc

FKN CRINGE

[nimble jasper]

ok one team did

but mage was frost

and his rogue idk

did no dam

[sharp meteor]

queued into that once yeah very spooky

but fire gooder i imagine in basically every scenario

queued into pve dam fire mages who played necro and just planted themselves in the middle of the arena and rp'd as bfa destro

[nimble jasper]

i mean yeah fire gud

you get trinket before bomb

its gg

[twilit flax]

Fire mage is DH on easy mode lol

Training wheels dh

[nimble jasper]

ehhh

dh its really hard to tell

the difference

[twilit flax]

If you count dhs weak times 100%

Fire mage is untouchable every season

And legion arcane was even more toxic than fire right now

Frfr

[gloomy rune]

is there any common issues with landing spear of bastion in pvp?

any tips to avoid it?

[twilit flax]

Legion arcane was an abomination

[nimble jasper]

mage it just seems the main gap is the worse oens

dont know how to live vs like

hunter priest

[sharp meteor]

Only bolt stuff that's stunned.

[nimble jasper]

or hunter sham

lmao

[sharp meteor]

Er, spear stuff that's stunned.

Or at the very least piercing howled, and only if they don't have an immediate disaplcement, like blink or fel rush.

[nimble jasper]

slow the person

drop spear

hope they dont bug out of it

[sharp meteor]

Craven hunter feign removes it, monk revival removes it

[nimble jasper]

dunno i dont get how people completely whiff spears

unless tilt queueing

[sharp meteor]

so if u aren't crossing them

they can get gripped on spears

as it's always bolt into spear

[nimble jasper]

oh taht too

[sharp meteor]

there's also locks burning their first trinket on the bolt to port

and some of the sweaty locks have the audio ping for when sprear is thrown

with like a medallion port bind xd

[nimble jasper]

god

[sharp meteor]

bolt>spear = port, so i went like bolt>mortal strike>wait>spear and they'd only then trinket port

[nimble jasper]

in bfa i loved killing locks in a bomb opener

[sharp meteor]

CRINGE SWEATY LOCKS

[nimble jasper]

when they realized

bomb stops gate

@sharp meteor guy i played with s4

"we must come to ethical agreement spite is only allowed vs destro players"

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

it was quite good versus destro at least until they figured out how to not int to the first one

[nimble jasper]

bruh

triple spiet bomb the gate

dead opener

😂

one game i had the lock died while i was going for re

because 2 things from beyond spawned on him

[sharp meteor]

yeah my buddy and i were setting up SUPER rat alts and we both had spite

so we just did that to 1800 2s with actually zero gear we just ran between cc

[nimble jasper]

rps you could do some really troll shit

spite lock bomb gate

silence him when he trinkets kidney

[sharp meteor]

:))

being able to sap off blind while people were in spite was the funniest until it got patched

[nimble jasper]

my friend got his last win as godcomp

off a feral destro team

where the destro is casting bolts while his feral was eating triple claws in a hoj

[sharp meteor]

yeah if dispel was off the table my healer would scream big dam then hoj somebody without trinket and we'd triple claw and they'd implode

double dresti also funni

[nimble jasper]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EsteemedZealousChimpanzeeJebaited-XgPkRgb43k7wIjr2

god i love meta rage clips

[sharp meteor]

These always make me appreciate my partners even more.

[warped warren]

i know best reeee

[knotty tangle]

holy moly

[thick reef]

anymore got problem with when they get mindcontrole > u get disconnected. its pretty good cc but too strong.

[twilit flax]

At first I hated this guy but I can relate to alot of what he says

I feel his pain

[median tendon]

what do you think guys in 9.2 which covenant will be the meta?

[fierce elm]

https://tenor.com/view/fortune-teller-crystall-ball-psychic-clairvoyant-gif-5100696

[warped warren]

yes

[bleak sage]

can you shattering throw dark pact?

[elder wigeon]

yes

[knotty tangle]

Damn facing warr rdruid vs warr rsham felt really hard

Do i need to go healer?

[gloomy beacon]

The times I have beat it with my rdru healer is usually by winning the mana game - usually we do this by countering their go with like disarm or something and then letting the opposing warrior do w/e with hard swaps to the shaman on your ago, eventually constant pressure + them burning mana through purges ended up being they way we went

[knotty tangle]

Whats their win condition though? Cross cc into big cooldowns and win in a stun+sharpen?

[gloomy beacon]

Yea usually paired with the shamans earth ele and purges

[knotty tangle]

Also been wondering if its worth to dbts when you warbreaker to prevent disarm?

[gloomy beacon]

Eh I mean if you really want to keep your burst window going you can trinket disarm

But you probably want to save dbts for whenever they decide to go with the above mentioned kill window

[scarlet barn]

Bad practice in general. You can do it if you go for certain kill but thrn again you can try to BS to eat disarm. Case to case tbh

[knotty tangle]

Aah that works

Cant trinket disarn as human

[fierce elm]

If you are against a warrior and he is close

You should just bladestorm after WB

and try to eat his disarm

ez pz

[knotty tangle]

Coolbeans

People actually started resising burst when i hit 2.1 mmr

Until then everything just falls over

[scarlet barn]

Yea def not what i just said

You butt

[fierce elm]

oh

i ignored it

busy eating this STEAK

[scarlet barn]

No ksm for you

[fierce elm]

[mortal elm]

why there is 0 heals applying

bruhh

lets se if i remove heal from pug

finally someone to play, it seems there is no healers after all

[knotty tangle]

I always get a healer or two in like 2 min

What cr u playing at?

[fierce elm]

I mean, there are multiple reasons for people not picking you

The pool of healers is first of all a lot less than that of DPS

Like 1 million different reasons

[mortal elm]

1600

[knotty tangle]

Found most healers only pick people with higher cr, so might get easier and easier

Only my experience though

Also helps with decent cr achievements

[mortal elm]

what is optimal vers?

[raw summit]

30%+

[mortal elm]

okay ty

so should i replace m pve gear

with conq gear?

which doesnt have vers

[fickle forge]

Pick trinket as human

Brooch is bait

[knotty tangle]

What, for real?

Or are you hard jebaiting me

[raw summit]

trinket on everything

[mortal elm]

is elite tmog only on that toon

or account bound ?

[raw summit]

all plate boys

[mortal elm]

only plate is decent anyways

maybe mail too but

[twilit flax]

The mail elite way better

The heroic plate i think is best from the 5

Basically Matte Gold

[mortal elm]

nah didnt like gold scheme

everyone has prefferences i think

who knows maybe ill play heal shaman just to elite set

[twilit flax]

Idk. I'm not bias towards the silver. I think S1 plate elite was great

S2 plate just felt like a downgrade

Hold up I got a good one

[calm pasture]

both sets(s1&s2) look amazing but they chose terrible colors both times, imo

[twilit flax]

Pre covid S1

[calm pasture]

and s3 will be no exception. colors look absolute garbo

[twilit flax]

Post covid S2

They didn't even release the PvP gear yet tho

They're not just using the PvE sets are they ?

[calm pasture]

of course they are

you can already look at elite versions on ptr

[twilit flax]

But like

They're PvE sets

Tf

What will the non set gear look like?

[fierce elm]

They showed that too

[calm pasture]

in pvp you just upgrade one of your gear pieces to a set piece for currency, no?

[fierce elm]

That is how they worded it

or through weekly vault

[calm pasture]

yeah

[twilit flax]

Nice picture btw

That's my fav book

Well his book

[calm pasture]

❤️

[twilit flax]

I think tier sets are random chance

Yeah👌🤌

Timeless classic

Yeah I did see the normal gear actually it's the blue Anime flame head

I thought that was the aspirant gear tho

I think the war set looks pretty good

Better than S2 plate

[mortal elm]

I believe 9.2

set kinda bad

i wont farm them probably

myhtic color scheme is nice tho

[knotty tangle]

as necro warr, do you swifty banner with WB or space out most cd's to trade?

[sharp meteor]

can sometimes bait stuff with wb

but that either means they don't take it, your other cds don't get much as value, and/or you fall behind overall

just kind of depends

[floral ingot]

Yes, it is bugged

Happened to me a couple of times

[sharp meteor]

yeah only loss from rival to duelist helping healer was queuing into double priest and having them spam mc me into a pillar until i went offline lmao

happened on moogerbooger but also had a team try it on bastion arena

[thick reef]

yeah so its not just me but a real bad bug

[knotty tangle]

it even happened in AWC, its been a bug for long. Next patch you become a pet if u trinket MC

[nimble jasper]

there was that really bad bug in s1

where anyone who got mc'ed would start rubberbanding around the map

[sharp meteor]

that was super obnoxious

[nimble jasper]

also the other possible outcome

the priest gets d/ced themselves

from the mc

reminds me of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RTn1ZSExwU

[floral ingot]

Ye it most likely has nothing to do with arena types

Happened to me on undercity and mechagon arenas

[knotty tangle]

The fun bug /exploit is being in enemy starting zone in arena. That one is banable though

[undone pumice]

hello rbgs worth getting into just for conq farm?

[sharp meteor]

on one hand the gains from wins are great but on the other it can take a long time for groups to form and it generally involves interacting with the human filth known as rbg players

[undone pumice]

you mean wow players in general

esp eretards

[knotty tangle]

Just queueing low mmr 2s is fast af

Spam shit games

[undone pumice]

yeah but

[sharp meteor]

yeah low mmr matches in the bracket you don't have rating in is ideal

[undone pumice]

ah

but 3s are cringe

[sharp meteor]

3s is the only reasonable bracket

[undone pumice]

3s i hate

i tried playing 3s but the games are just much longer compared to 2s

not very fun

[knotty tangle]

Just drop mmr, and spam games in 2s

Games are 30 sec or less

Then, after u are geared you push rating to upgrade

[undone pumice]

can u not transfer conq between toons

[sharp meteor]

nop

[knotty tangle]

U buy boxes

[sharp meteor]

well via boxes

[undone pumice]

what boxes

[sharp meteor]

fp vendor, 375 conq for rando conq piece

[knotty tangle]

Always buy boxes.

U can get 2h weap for 375 conquest

But u need 1400 rating on the toon ur buying it on

[undone pumice]

so whats stopoing me from just buying a ton of boxes on an alt and sending it to my guy

nothing?

[knotty tangle]

Thats what i do

Sent 30 boxes

[undone pumice]

damn

but box pieces have randomized stats right

[knotty tangle]

Yeah, but gear over stats

Then you can replace later

[undone pumice]

only disadvantage vs just buying regularly

[knotty tangle]

Boxes is A LOT faster

[undone pumice]

boxes it is

i just saved conw after buying my 2h

[timid geode]

I want to get in pvp should i first just but all honor gear?

Buy^

And after that go to rated pvp and stack conquer to buy gear there

[nimble jasper]

depends how much pve gear you already have

[mild pier]

Better to just do low rated 2s arena

You'll get honor towards the vault and easy conquest if you win and you're bound to win at least a couple.

[lucid walrus]

honor gear is a pretty huge waste of time ngl. would honestly recommend just grabbing trinkets and slamming 2s

can always socket/gem vers to shore up til you get more conq gear. shouldn't take that long

[jagged cedar]

Are the odds of getting a 2h super low ?

[timid geode]

My vault goes to pve items thats my main focus still

But i cant find anyone to do rated 2v2 with me

[sharp meteor]

yes

[raw summit]

I got avoidance shoulders from my vault, that doesnt work in pvp i assume

Avoidance pvp gear

[sharp meteor]

tertiarystats disabled ya

[raw summit]

Leech would be giga toxic

[earnest zodiac]

Anyone else been toying with haste kyrian? It feels so good. Currently at like ~2300 playing turbo and haste kyrian is nice for getting out more GCDs

A la war breaker immediately BS to tank a disarm.

[lucid walrus]

gotten to the point of playing my main enough to just swap stats depending. feels good

[raw summit]

Smexin was playing that afaik

So it must be decent

[earnest zodiac]

Yeah. Haste feels mad good. Sure crits win games cause lmao 20k+ execute

But haste just lets me get out so many more globals

[raw summit]

Crit imo is the easier stat since for haste you gotta make the globals count

Yes i play crit

[earnest zodiac]

Idk. Crit just feels clunky imo

I’m vibing with haste tho

[sharp meteor]

i like crit for kyrian

as big spear goes

[earnest zodiac]

Went up a nice chunk of rating. Maybe it’s a turbo specific thing

[sharp meteor]

fish for sd proc prior to bolt spear ideally

[earnest zodiac]

Yeah. I’m just not crazy on crit. I like being able to get more out. I feel more versatile

Like it’s funny winning the game off a crit I 100% didn’t deserve. But haste funny

[sharp meteor]

really curious to play crit kyriaan with big spear and unhinged next season

short bladestorm too whenever i can

[earnest zodiac]

I’ve tested haste specifically for battlelord and spear

[lucid walrus]

theoretically we'll be running DS a little bit less

[earnest zodiac]

It’s nasty with kitty

[lucid walrus]

may have room for short storm

[raw summit]

Haste EB kyrian

[earnest zodiac]

@sharp meteor are you running spear conduits as well

Cause I just can’t get off combo and crash. It’s so consistent

[raw summit]

Crash is nice consistent dam

[lucid walrus]

252 crash is fantastic

crits anywhere from 7-14k

[nimble jasper]

@earnest zodiac then theres mag playing with like no haste

[sharp meteor]

i go ms/op > spear

[nimble jasper]

absolute madlad

[sharp meteor]

only spear for like uhh pelagos

because mika auto stun

[nimble jasper]

does bron break cc

when he comes out

[sharp meteor]

he knocks people which i thought put them on dr which ehh

actually i can't remember hm

[nimble jasper]

i always saw mika as a pve cov

idk why

[lucid walrus]

mik phial + stun's so nice

autostun doesn't show up on DR but i can live w/ that

[nimble jasper]

autophial kinda troll vs mindgames

but yeah

[lucid walrus]

also true

[sharp meteor]

if i don't want auto stun i grab clamps and play spear conduit

so big spear plus dot on the spear

[lucid walrus]

nature's guardian treatment

[sharp meteor]

isolated spear is HUGE then

the range on the spear dot is like 15 yards or something it feels like

rly annoying to have it split

[nimble jasper]

orc clamps

[lucid walrus]

[nimble jasper]

[earnest zodiac]

Yeah. Same.

[earnest zodiac]

Yeah that build is what I tried and it felt dumpy as shit

Build is 100% comedy

But boy it felt slow and sloggy

Big numbers doe

[lucid walrus]

running like 7% haste and 20 crit. doesn't feel the worst

[earnest zodiac]

Yeah

Right now I’m almost done with haste build and I’m at like 14 crit 16 haste

And it feels gooood

Again not sure if it’s real or just a very good Avenue for turbo

[sharp meteor]

hm still torn as to what to play into rm as necro

unhinged sephuz mirror

[lucid walrus]

sephuz sounds comfy but i'm not sure how impactful it is

[earnest zodiac]

for 9.2 or current?

[sharp meteor]

currently

probably sephuz now that i think about it

[earnest zodiac]

I like painbringer / unhinged depending on MU

[sharp meteor]

into rm in particular because windows to kill rogue feel short and enduring often doesn't get too much value i think

[earnest zodiac]

also depends what im playing with as necro

[earnest zodiac]

oh for 2v2

unhinged

or sephuz

those are basically it

[sharp meteor]

3s i don't like 2s

and misshapen nice in 2s

3s is hard to get reflect value

[earnest zodiac]

id still say painbringer imo

the spike dmg is actually kinda nice

[warm quiver]

Does sephuz stack with rele trinket ?

[nimble jasper]

no

stacks with orc tho

[earnest zodiac]

^

[nimble jasper]

@sharp meteor aaaaaaaaa

dhs using blur like its a dps cd

feels so good dinging them through dark

[main copper]

Felt like I was farming DH's yesterday, still getting farmed by hunters.

But it all balances out I guess

Probably a Kyrian issue though, hunters can just feigned death spear and moon walk out.

Love that Warlock portal does not work against spear though. Out of all the things that do break it that would of made more sense.

[knotty tangle]

U need to get fd before you spear

[left storm]

hey guys can i do pvp with mythic dung gear?

[main copper]

I'm at 1900 in PvE gear so yer I guess, depends how high you want to get.

I've only just swapped my rings, trinkets and neck out which does not take long to upgrade. Rest looks like a nightmare to grind 😛

[left storm]

okay i really thought mythic gear is an obstacle

[main copper]

It's the same as wearing Rival I stuff

[left storm]

i get killed 10 seconds into the fight

[main copper]

The lack of vers hurts but it has not been awful with 11% vers which I did most my games at

[left storm]

but im new to pvp aswell

[main copper]

I play with a friend on comms though so we can kinda cover for each other easier than LFG

[left storm]

oh okay... i have been doing pve for so long that i have forgotten pvp completely

[main copper]

Honestly not bothered on the Warrior at all, but my mate wanted to do some games the other week and we had a great time so we are still carrying on

[left storm]

that sounds cool

[main copper]

It has been fun queued into @wind coral last night and obviously threw the game so he could get rival or something! not ran into people I know in arena in years. It is a good time right now.

[floral ingot]

Played with a sp, we ran into 3 of his friends he was in discord with

Made a nice campfire in the middle of the arena

Did /roll for the win

My sp rolled 100

[main copper]

Jesus, that is a skill in itself.

We do gamble rolls in raids and the Mage always wins.

If rolling was an arena meta he'd be glad.

[floral ingot]

He’d be glad anyways cause he plays mage

Wdym

Combust goes brrr

[main copper]

[fickle forge]

Don't spear when they have feign up

[main copper]

This is probably the answer 😄

[fickle forge]

You win either way by having them never feign or forced to feign and then spear

[main copper]

I'm not really sure on the hunters toolkit so taking a while to figure them out

[fickle forge]

Disengage and freedom is all you need to care about for starters

Stun and trap comes next

[main copper]

I've done some pretty great intervene trap reflects yesterday, but honestly I don't feel they provided much value.

More we queue into them the better it will go I guess, loving fighting Warlocks atm though. We killed two in the opener yesterday even through their wall, squishy classes are the best.

[floral ingot]

Try to catch a warlock tho

Esp with a priest on their team

The guy just zooms around like he’s Usain Bolt or something

[nimble jasper]

warlocks pretend their class is bad

because they cant stand in the middle of the map

and tank cds

[floral ingot]

Crossing the arena 4 times in 15 second time

[nimble jasper]

I hate lock matchups

even when I win I come out tilted af

[floral ingot]

True

The whole game is basically trying to catch an annoying fly

[nimble jasper]

70% slow

[floral ingot]

Or going their teammate and letting them free cast

[nimble jasper]

frost MLD

on tolviron

i've legit asked my team in bfa

if we can just afk out

[floral ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-gif-9269441

[nimble jasper]

playing rogue in corrupted season

watching the other 5 people in the arena

get to have fun

while I waddle around

[graceful quarry]

cringe rogue

[nimble jasper]

warrior was even worse

lmao

mld just walked around you

[graceful quarry]

warrior was actual trash

[nimble jasper]

if they had 1 brain cell

that worked

ehh I say its less warrior was trash and moreso dh and rogue

were overtuned

[floral ingot]

Played dk 2s in corrupted mostly
Rogue priest felt free, dh was actual pain

[twilit flax]

bluedrew waved his final goodbyes as they laid him down to sleep 😆

[nimble jasper]

I'm just listening to a bunch of idiots argue on a disc over meta being suspended

[twilit flax]

he said his final goodbye prayers as they laid him down

farewell yall

[nimble jasper]

he said big nono word

[nimble jasper]

yeh dk you just gas pedaled the priest

assuming they dont kill in the first 2-3mins you kinda win

[floral ingot]

Ye

[twilit flax]

what did he say

[nimble jasper]

starts with an f

[floral ingot]

Usually killed 2.3-2.4 priests in the first 2 goes

[twilit flax]

thats what u get for being a big bish

i mean he good at wow but like what if u woke up and u were blue drew

sheesh

no ty

[nimble jasper]

i killed a 2.4 rdruid yesterday

cuz he decided to

[twilit flax]

fk?

[nimble jasper]

sit a full stun go from a ww

[twilit flax]

does it end in g?

[nimble jasper]

and trinket meld at 20%

ends in a t

[floral ingot]

Was so happy queuing into rogue priest, don’t have a comp I get that much serotonin queuing into atm

[twilit flax]

lol bro i here gay guys calling each other that all the time

basically removed all the power from it so it seems

[nimble jasper]

i mean its twitch

egirls showing their lower half is fine

[twilit flax]

true

[nimble jasper]

but saying words aint

[twilit flax]

cancel blue drew

bro someone take that man out and get him laid

he can finally take a break from his push

then he will

[nimble jasper]

bluedrew

rmp lives rent free in his head

[twilit flax]

wakes up in the middle of the night screaming

popthat f trinket

[nimble jasper]

i get so many rmps when i play on monk in 2s

and im just like "ok they win if they dont int"

and somehow most of them int

[twilit flax]

rmp is the reason i quit my ww

well not rlly but still

if dk made a strong come back id reconsider

[nimble jasper]

hunter and feral are good into it but yeah

[twilit flax]

yeah

feral will be even ahrder to kill because all jungle will be necro and swap nature leggo

i playing mm right now, most fun ive had in the game in years

[nimble jasper]

yeah like

hunter is a funny class in that

2 of the specs

hate the 3rd

[floral ingot]

You should play blindfolded BM to glad

[nimble jasper]

😂

[twilit flax]

id rather be locked ina rooom with blue drew for 3 month

[floral ingot]

[twilit flax]

i like surviv, love mm , hate bm

[nimble jasper]

every time i run into bm hunters

who trap

[twilit flax]

fk suriv, marry mm, kill bm

[nimble jasper]

without any cc on kill target

[twilit flax]

can pet stun kill tar, conc into trap heals

or bash heals into trrap is best

[nimble jasper]

i love male worgen hunters

[twilit flax]

main kill target

[nimble jasper]

max range trapping

[twilit flax]

but i dont bm so idk

[nimble jasper]

then i rando run across map

and somehow run into a trap

that i have no idea why its there

[twilit flax]

i like how mm has 3 good covs right now. i havnt gotten to try necro yet though

[nimble jasper]

most i see from necro mm

[twilit flax]

look like kyrian will be the worst of the 3 next season bu ti think its my fav

[nimble jasper]

is oneshotting bad mages

and proccing seed insta

[main copper]

We have two which is not bad I guess

[twilit flax]

necro goo d for Splay

or cupid

[main copper]

I ran into a Venthyr Arms warrior yesterday, that was pretty weird.

[twilit flax]

double kyrian cupod

for biggggg burst

[nimble jasper]

mm just seems like

its missing something

to be as good as the other two

[twilit flax]

it was*

[nimble jasper]

[twilit flax]

till they buff the tits out of its dmg

to compensate for its lack of stun

and trap dr

[floral ingot]

Necro mm with kyr feral

[twilit flax]

u have most burst in game pretty much

ur like a deathbolt but bit less

[nimble jasper]

now why do that when you can necro feral venthyr bm

and just kill people with passive pve dam

3head

[twilit flax]

i didnt get to play much this season but that woulda been cool

[floral ingot]

[twilit flax]

the kyrian druid is a bit toxic though

[nimble jasper]

surprised it took people so long

to catch on

[floral ingot]

It’s getting nerfed by 25% but still gonna be strong probably

[twilit flax]

it was asleep for a while

yeah its like 12/6% right?

[floral ingot]

Should’ve stayed that way

[twilit flax]

i thouight it was a 60% nerf lol

[nimble jasper]

kyrian bond

[floral ingot]

I think so

[nimble jasper]

been pretty degen for the game as a whole

[twilit flax]

kitty cleave is coo l though that was gone for so long

almost as toxic as turbo

[nimble jasper]

sometimes i feel like

game would be healthier if they required

melee caster comps

[floral ingot]

Boomie x any necro class is pretty strong atm

Getting deathbolted for 50k through 53% vers + d stance and reflect isn’t fun still

[twilit flax]

fire mage ww and fire mage arms lol

that was meta for a bit but u cant even call mage a caster

they are simply boomboom instant cast

[floral ingot]

Mage is a mage

There are melee, casters and mages

[twilit flax]

yes

[floral ingot]

Turn arcane into a battle mage spec

To go around bonking people with your staff

[twilit flax]

lazy peon orc mage

[wind coral]

😂

[knotty tangle]

Meeting double affli lock on tol viron... My fucking god

[earnest zodiac]

try that shit on mugambala

hate fighting locks on mugam

[knotty tangle]

My god im actually awfull on warrior

I do no dmg at all

[raw summit]

Press ms on cooldown

Same for op

[knotty tangle]

Well yeah, but i make no pressure

[undone pumice]

probably gear diff then

[floral ingot]

Lmao glad dragon’s shadow looks so funny

It’s basically chicken wings

[full quiver]

lol

yeah the wings look a little weird

[craggy socket]

How is warrior looking for 9.2

[undone pumice]

death sentence nerfed

arms dead spec time to go prot warrior

[fierce elm]

dead spec

[craggy socket]

You guys think so lol?

[fierce elm]

no

[plain wing]

prot pally

is the way

[floral ingot]

Be gone

[jaunty furnace]

[floral ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-bonk-gif-22415732

[craggy socket]

What about Prot Warrior + Prot Paladin

best 2s comp?

[raw summit]

Fuck tanks in arenas

[craggy socket]

Fuck Demon Hutners

theyre so fuckin bullshit and press buttons

instant heals with necro and unlimited leach

with insane damage whats the downside?

[floral ingot]

They don’t look cool

[full quiver]

prot warrior is gonna be OP next seaso

100% uptime on banner

[frank knoll]

Fury warr will be Stier

Unkitable scary damage until they just die

[sharp meteor]

"until they just die" you see that's the issue with fury

[frank knoll]

You can just press hamstring and walk away, then they can’t do anything if they messed up trading their mobility

[frank knoll]

Yeah but so do rogues

[fickle forge]

That's definitely a giant wasp

[spice hornet]

Lolol I’ve fought this one prot warrior twice on my alts this season around 2100

Does no damage

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah i think i saw him on the warr forum

seems kind of troll in 2s? unless u have high dam healer?

i do KIND OF want to try it in 3s though

probs takes too much dam

[jaunty furnace]

Remember the days of lumberjack cleave

[craggy socket]

Must be so hard to play rogue mage

must be so difficult being the best comp every season

[sharp meteor]

i like how if there's anything that even mildly inconveniences rm they're like dw buddy we'll hotfix that

[frank knoll]

Wasnt there a guy playing Prot at like 3k
His name was memphisrains

Not this season but in past seasons

[frank knoll]

I smack RM around on my DH, but I think I’m just playing bad teams. I’m only at like 1700ish

[sharp meteor]

i hate rm so much it's unreal

if u respond to bust instantly they can rotate cc around and do another go on another teammate

if u don't then u die

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326727004445605898/918527432745697280/sadstab.gif

[frank knoll]

Isn’t warrior a really good counter to RM

[sharp meteor]

u have the tools to delay the match a bit and if they play poorly it's easy to int into warrs

throw cc into bladestorm, or into banner

[maiden lion]

New here: Necro or Kyrian for 2s and 3s? Especially for 9.2

[sharp meteor]

i find necro banner to be easier to use

they're both quite good though

[nimble jasper]

getting dinged in stuns

when they inevitably blur air

[floral ingot]

monkaS

[craggy socket]

Why the fuck do huntards need stealh?

stealth* and why the fuck can they pop cds in stealth

[fierce elm]

Line

[sharp meteor]

just disarm them loool

storm bolt or fear them idk

how are hunters real if ur eyes aren't real

[ember rose]

Hunt them before they hunt you

[nimble jasper]

idk dont leave pillar if an mm hunter isnt out

[plain wing]

yea you better believe that if i get caught out and i hear Double tap and their cd's go off, im immediately trinketing whatever the fuck is cc'ing me and popping parry

cuz honestly... by the time my charge gets to them, or i fear. I could be biggggggggg dead

if they get their opener off uninterrupted it has to be the most dam in the game

[sharp meteor]

queuing into decent bit of mm kfc recently seems tricky to deal with

[full quiver]

you just have to respect opener

and then train the MM into the ground

lol

[sharp meteor]

quite hard honestly and their dmg isn't easily peeled

[full quiver]

you have to run around a pillar

until they come out

and you'll know burst is coming when they double tap

err

binding shot*

[sharp meteor]

they send double tap at weird times

when they get lnl proc

and ks proc

or trap

[thick reef]

How much is execute critting for in 9.2

[cedar silo]

https://tenor.com/view/ej-sweevilej-crystal-ball-my-crystal-ball-is-on-the-fritz-gif-12049040

[craggy socket]

How do I beat shadow priest teams

theyre just insane pressure to me

[cedar silo]

kill psyfiend instantly, line their goes (unholy nova pet thingy)