has potential as necrolord imo
#pvp
fierce elm
Its all gonna be orc/nelf
sharp meteor
rip shitty cringe cow participation
fierce elm
except for paladins who are still tauren kek
quasi lotus
and rogue
nimble jasper
and putting on their blindfold
accurate of how most rdruids are blind
sharp meteor
nah caps at 239 or something
floral ingot
Lame
sharp meteor
also it originally wasn't consistent i could buy random 239 ones on u nranked alt but stuck with like 213 ones on 2400 main
which i think they fixed but it was weird
but yeah 200 from catchup, 226 from clicking shit in korthia, 239 from vendor, then 239 and 252 from rift farm
plain wing
fuck i just wanna be tier 4 so i can rift farm
tier 2 - 4 is brutal daily farming
dailies*
warm quarry
Just want other's opinions. So I know arms is known as the pvp spec... But lately and in bfa ive loved fury warrior. I saw they have that mortal wounds passice (slaughterhouse) and I was just curious how viable fury warriors are in arenas and rbgs?
Also if I qued as a fury warrior would yall think id get denied into groups for not being arms?
passive*
native jay
I think Fury is doing okay at the minute! And as long as you enjoy it, keep playing it! 😊
warm quarry
I heard fury is squishy in pvp?
I mean I like fury more than arms.. But its more of how i'm viewed queing for rbgs and rated arenas
Just curious what other pvp-ers think between fury and arms warriors.
sharp meteor
u are more susceptible to being dinged that's for sure
no dstance/parry = scary
can be fine in arena, idk about rbgs but i imagine in larger scale content you'd be even more susceptible to focus-fire and getting blown up, also no sharpen
warm quarry
Ohh true
Thank you
Made a new warrior just to spec arms and to learn it better
Kyrian arms warrior at the moment.
sharp meteor
it is a pretty great time to be playing necro or kyrian arms
warm quarry
I agree
My top three for pvp rn is: ret pally > sub rogue > arms warrior
Demon hunter seems squish to me and im unsure about frost dk
plain wing
DH's should be purged from the game
sharp meteor
queuing into dh/boom and just running the rsham into the dirt 
celest pike
As Warrior in KFC with a BM Hunter, do you play Kyrian or Necro?
jaunty furnace
Cross faction! Wonder if we will see some of the top teams have a mix of both
sharp meteor
As Warrior in KFC with a BM Hunter, do you play Kyrian or Necro?
probably spear
celest pike
What is the main pro and con for kyrian and necro currently? didnt play since s1
sharp meteor
semi-reliably pinning melee cleaves off your team is really great
it's also more frequent goes
celest pike
ye
celest pike
any issues with sustain dmg because of soulbind traits or smth? Or defensive issues for the warrior?
sharp meteor
hmm i don't imagine so
sharp meteor
like they have their ups and downs but imo kyrian in general is probably the better pick
i queue into wps on kyrian turbo with rdruid and get destroyed
swap necro and rdruid gets on mw and we split the sp in half
celest pike
Ok what exactly does this mean for my choice now? :D
sharp meteor
i mean probably just kyrian
if you find situations where spear isn't feeling good can try necro
venth mm also seems super good
elder wigeon
it is, look at the croqp
sharp meteor
yep queued into yoske the other day and it felt solid
i wanted to play jungle but my partner won't setup cat until next season 
nimble jasper
Demon hunter seems squish to me and im unsure about frost dk
not sure why your concern is being squishy
while rogue is your 2nd consideration
rogue can be dinged if you’re not careful
sharp meteor
rogue also has fewer windows of vulnerability i feel
sharp meteor
when they can hit you you'll have cloak evasion feint vial teammates cc
sharp meteor
having 10 minute games vs rm where they do nothing except run
then rogue just explodes
nimble jasper
then mage just
plays gatekeeper
as you re
then someone gets horny walks behind los
and dies in a stun combust
wheat jay
Happens
cedar silo
really tilting by now
lfg is hella aids with this
guess im waiting for the guys i got 2k2 with
dapper galleon
Currrently I see that kyrian and necro are roughly even and it seems like necro is slightly more played on the high end?
Would that potentially change in 9.2? double legendary seems like it might give kyrian an edge, but what do I know
dapper galleon
Just picking up the war and trying to get in practice on the one im more likely to be playing is all
plain wing
@cedar silo see this is why im scared to queue hahaha
sharp meteor
right now kyrian looks good in general, necro will probably hinge on synergies because glory seems EHHHH
nf looks troll as usual but at least has real execute
nimble jasper
<@!198808002629730304> see this is why im scared to queue hahaha
I mean I just free q’ed 2 nights ago for fun
7-0
sharp meteor
ladder anxiety is the worst
plain wing
yea i get anxiety about queueing
nimble jasper
killing rdruids in one go
because they have no hots and out of form
literally inting
plain wing
i feel like im always hesitant to go druids for some reason
nimble jasper
sometimes i just int and drop
same
sharp meteor
what can also help is avoiding caffeine
nimble jasper
tilt trinket
sharp meteor
90% of coms are "send send send" and "dead dead dead" with 10% "i got next"
plain wing
fuck
cedar silo
Dont even feel like im playing like shit
plain wing
like 7-10 games per 100 rating right?
fuck this makes me scared to queue hahahahaha
sorry man
2s or 3s
cedar silo
half the games are glads on their rat DH alts doing 6k dps
sharp meteor
literally me
nimble jasper
2s is like
sharp meteor
also my sham is like hey i wanna weeb on people
nimble jasper
only some classes can have some fun in
cedar silo
2s are dampfest most games
nimble jasper
yeah
plain wing
DH's are fucking broken
any DH game i queue into we lose
theyre damage
is insane.... like even when they're cd's end and I think its about to fall off
it doesnt.
nimble jasper
dh is not as bad in 2s because they usually dont have a kyrian buff
cedar silo
Their constant pressure is fine, but their burst is also pretty good, which just takes it over the top
plain wing
how
cedar silo
yeah, every one and their fucking mother is queueing kyrboom/dh
nimble jasper
most of them play like monkeys
sharp meteor
i just eat their rsham 
wheat jay
Im Hunter, my warrior kills them in a second lol
nimble jasper
and you abuse them for it
elder wigeon
it's hard not to be scared to queue if you're up a bunch of rating into a bracket you don't have experience with but that's just normal
plain wing
@sharp meteor but how 😦
cedar silo
DHs die in a stun or you just mong their sham and stun dh so he cant dark
wheat jay
<@!129440991294783488> but how 😦
I stun healer
Warrior uses avatar
Dh uses blur
Blur runs out
Healer is in cc
sharp meteor
yeah what we have done is just mog the healer and if dh ints blur
swap next bolt on him
wheat jay
Warrior pops everything on the planet and onetaps them
plain wing
but he still has darkness
nimble jasper
cant darkness in stun
sharp meteor
blur is like 45 and stun is 30
wheat jay
2500mmr dhs use blur like morons
plain wing
ahhh
wheat jay
Most inflated class now
elder wigeon
when you're relaxed and playing with your boys, you can just have q seshes like this lol
cedar silo
no fucking wonder when DHs can literally just run at something till it dies and live forever as necro
nimble jasper
or dont set it up
plain wing
yea honestly you're 100% right @nimble jasper ... I have a terrible idea of what target to be on and when
wheat jay
when you're relaxed and playing with your boys, you can just have q seshes like ...
True chill gameplay is how you get best games
nimble jasper
surprised i havent heard you complain
floral ingot
1950
Damn, man, I need to know how you’re doing before queuing myself
When you climb I do as well
When you tank, I do too
cedar silo
I just want a couple of guys that can talk about losses without getting angy
nimble jasper
about getting dinged by monks
cedar silo
idc about winratio or xp honestly
floral ingot
Lost 100 cr cause I’ve put my trust in an ele sham
plain wing
Me? I actually usually beat monks for some reason..... I just fear their big go and then run away lol
and or parry into big dam on them
cedar silo
Damn, man, I need to know how you’re doing before queuing myself
When you climb...
Meteoric rise crashed and burned hard
nimble jasper
their big go is bonedust
cedar silo
kinda wanna quit
floral ingot
The guy did less damage while free casting than a d stance war
wheat jay
Na dont quit
plain wing
I fear when he pops bonedust and has clones out
wheat jay
Just chill and regrind
nimble jasper
ok you got that part right
plain wing
😄
nimble jasper
i hate 2s generally but theres a weird rush for some reason
dinging rdruids as ww
idk why
cedar silo
Just chill and regrind
Yeah, i want to, but people quit after 2 losses and then its back to 15 mins in lfg
nimble jasper
but it makes me laugh so hard
plain wing
I really really struggle with DH's, hunters, etc
nimble jasper
killing monkey rdruids in bonedust sweep with enough dmg to kill them 2-3x over
plain wing
good rogues ruin me
cedar silo
Randomly got into group with Zhrey on his mage alt
wheat jay
I really really struggle with DH's, hunters, etc
Cuz theyre good now
floral ingot
kinda wanna quit
At first I was joking about buying a 40 win glad boost, but now I’m not so sure
floral ingot
Xd
cedar silo
At first I was joking about buying a 40 win glad boost, but now I’m not so sure
been there myself, but really wanna earn it instead of just using my goldcap for it
wheat jay
Communities are banned afaik
plain wing
anyone have tips against hunters, DH's, and spriest w lock 2s comps?
elder wigeon
I can't see any language saying individuals are acceptable
wheat jay
I can't see any language saying individuals are acceptable
Bluepost said only communities are out
wheat jay
Did they put something different in tos?
sharp meteor
when you're relaxed and playing with your boys, you can just have q seshes like ...
you ate my mw
nimble jasper
spriest lock just eat the priest
elder wigeon
@sharp meteor did I?
cedar silo
Its the cross serverwide communities they want killed
wheat jay
Wish some of you were eu :(
sharp meteor
yeah
sharp meteor
i whiffed spear on you
wheat jay
Never played 3s gamę against someone from skyhold
plain wing
@nimble jasper then the affli lock obliterates me
nimble jasper
what is your healer doing
plain wing
and spreist pops void whatever and it casts bolts everywhere and fears me
nimble jasper
while this is happening
cedar silo
gimme like 3 weeks and i might've dropped below zero rating, and then it restarts at 3k again, right? @wheat jay
plain wing
no idea
nimble jasper
also afk behind pillar during their cds
plain wing
theyre lfg healers
wheat jay
gimme like 3 weeks and i might've dropped below zero rating, and then it restart...
Restarts at 3k, yes
But 3s only fam
sharp meteor
dispel on soulrot + darkglare
plain wing
but if I rush in with cd's, and they pop cd's.... Im supposed to just LoS?
sharp meteor
if they don't just parry/reflect
cedar silo
But 3s only fam
i aint touching 2s with a 10 feet pole
sharp meteor
good aff in 2s is a stressful time but most of them kind of ooga booga
plain wing
reflect soulrot?
wheat jay
i aint touching 2s with a 10 feet pole
Hah nice
sharp meteor
it's like the minutely thing along with singularity
plain wing
what do i reflect
plain wing
parry is only 20% dam right?
elder wigeon
@sharp meteor is this the game?
elder wigeon
parry is only 20% dam right?
30
sharp meteor
no but we queued into them the other day
elder wigeon
ah
sharp meteor
is whiterose that whiteclaw or whitecat guy
plain wing
@nimble jasper so when do you pop cd's? I guess im in the habit of going ham asap to put pressure on
nimble jasper
when im on cc dr
cedar silo
im impressed i can get to 2250, then drop 300 rating and still have positive win/loss
wtf
sharp meteor
oh wait no it isnt nvm
wheat jay
All about mmr
sharp meteor
im impressed i can get to 2250, then drop 300 rating and still have positive win...
rating comes rating goes
i think my worst was like 600 mmr drop trying to learn a new comp
elder wigeon
is whiterose that whiteclaw or whitecat guy
nope whiterose is nevermorr, goes by nzx, despondencyx too
cedar silo
Yeah, its just rough when the going was good towards first glad
cedar silo
at 2700 i feel like your fundamentals are good enough that if you queue a "viable" comp, the rating back to 2.5 is kinda free, no?
sharp meteor
yeah it was a weird out of sync thing we only touched the depths then bounced back up
cedar silo
Like i can cross cc if we script it in lobby
sharp meteor
healer was also super drunk i think
cedar silo
I hjave no idea whats happening if we dont lay out a plan
sharp meteor
yeah getting on the same page in pre is rly good
wheat jay
Had 400+ mmr diff recently
cedar silo
Havent played enough to have a sense for how shit "just goes"
sharp meteor
yeah pick up new comp and just crater because it's like hm how do we slot this together
then bounce back when it clicks
cedar silo
Playing with Zhrey explaining setups was kinda cool though
wheat jay
Wasnt new Comp for me
I just played like shit and did 0dmg while not even kiting or trading defensives well
cedar silo
Love saying "i got first stop on monk"
and healer continues to trinket and pop 3 buttons
cedar silo
xd
sharp meteor
spear mid air and hes like I TROLLED I TROLLED FUCK
cedar silo
Do i just reroll dh and pve to 24
wheat jay
Apparently going INTO the ret/warr is not the play
sharp meteor
dh is a cozy time
wheat jay
Dh is stress
Pure fucking stress and I fully despise that class and everyone that plays it in pvp
cedar silo
Pure fucking stress and I fully despise that class and everyone that plays it in...
always pushes me a little towards the line of tilt when i meet an S2 glad mount on a DH in a 1900 rated game
cedar silo
especially when glad is, to me, a "big thing" or whatever you wanna call it
plain wing
2100 is a big thing to me since it unlocks the weapon mog hahha
still a pipe dream tho
sharp meteor
bruh the rift between glad and r1 is so big
cedar silo
Yeah, i know rating is hella inflated and the 50 wins above 2400 made it so everyone had glad mounts
raw summit
Youll get it dw
Asking around is a really great habit and im sure youll improve loads!
My goal for next season is 2100 or 2400 on my DK depending on how much i enjoy it
raw summit
Wouldnt mind the mount 
raw summit
Ill just crawl back to my PvE bubble and caress my rank 1 log and rank 7 allstar...
You could have both by smashing people with heroic/early mythic gear
So it's not a level playing field and you have it a lot easier
Ideally with you already having tier
cedar silo
Isnt vers to big of a deal though
plain wing
@cedar silo im with you.... ive only pve'd in this game really for the past 12 years.... actually really only pvping for the first time this season
and the struggle is real
I dont react / plan accordingly
raw summit
Yea but like if you have a heroic wep that's just so much dam
plain wing
and i just get merkd
cedar silo
Did mostly transmog and PvP in MoP reaching like 1900 in 3s i think and have never touched pvp outside 1800 in 2s for gear since
lack of content and warriors being pretty good in pvp made me want to see how far i could go
glad looked really possible, but this drop is disheartening
but ill probably be stubborn as shit and farm it back
lol
plain wing
you got it
sharp meteor
wonder if i can get into raid guild with just pvp exp next tier 
cedar silo
I mean i have the utmost respect for people nearing 3k. Means you are one of the best at what you do and that shit translates
sharp meteor
currently in cr purgatory with enu
cedar silo
Raid looks cool
dont think i could play this game for pvp only
shit gets too little balance for that
plain wing
Yea honestly ive never had so much respect for anyone in this game than i do for pvpers.... p layers that can actually make sense of arenas and look ahead/plan or react accordingly. Shit is so mad impressive. I raided in the top 20 world scene in MoP and that has nothing on high end pvpers
totally different way of thinking
I just ooga booga games hoping for a lucky win 😦
not really improving yet
sharp meteor
yeah i play too much to not be raiding
cedar silo
how many 3s games you reckon you got*?
sharp meteor
across the three
cedar silo
actually, is it ever worth playing the rally honor talent?
sharp meteor
i think that it's a reasonable defensive option that's easier to use than banner and affects you unlike duel
have been trying it into stuff like jungle and sometimes wizards
cedar silo
i always feel like its the option into lock teams
since warbringer is meaningless most times
but rally just feels likea shit button
plain wing
@sharp meteor wish i had your brain man.... bet you step into an arena with an idea of what the enemy is gonnna do and how you can properly respond.... I just mash cd's hoping for a kill and 50/50 it 😦
sharp meteor
i have kind of liked warbringer as an offensive pick into some hunters warlocks and stuff as they are more likely to
well in the case of locks trinket bolt or get gripped on it prior to spear
plus big root gives my enh time to connect
for bolt go
cedar silo
<@!129440991294783488> wish i had your brain man.... bet you step into an arena ...
it very much comes with a lot of games
i like wpx comps for that reason
plays kinda slow ish
sharp meteor
ya i queue for a bit and my sham sends me the vods and i sometimes pick over and see stuff i am curius about like
why something went the way it did, or didn't
cedar silo
but can make big go's with psyfiend and spear
sharp meteor
yeah wps is fun i have a sp setup so might try that eventually
addled melee brain trying to play a wizard
cedar silo
I enjoy it way more than ret/war
but have so much more success with ret/war cause its brainless as fuck
sharp meteor
retwarr didn't feel great to me but it hadn't really clicked for my ret who normally plays enh
and he's like ahhhh no reach
cedar silo
Ret/war teams when the ret never bubbles
sharp meteor
killing a retwarr before he bubbled the other day 
get me out of those 10 minute games that we lose in damp
cedar silo
thats what retwar is good for
5mins games at most
2 mins if you all in with bubble in opener and dont score a kill
next game
sharp meteor
i need to be better about swapping on hots and stuff feels like the other way to eventually turn that
cedar silo
My ui is very much not setup for pvp
so i have no clue about hots n shit lol
man, i cba grinding sockets for haste gear
sharp meteor
i simmed my warr without sockets and it was like
95 dps diff
30k research for 95 dps
and sum speeds
cedar silo
welp dont have honor for upgrading shit now that i bought insignia
fuck this system so much
plain wing
Can you ever kill DH in DH/ rdruid 2s? Whenever he doesnt have blur, the druid just barks him and or keeps cenarion ward on him
plain wing
Yea i just rewatching some vods
like if i switch to druid when DH doesnt have blur but has Cenarion ward, the rdruid just goes bear and becomes unkillable
sharp meteor
so usually it'll be swap druid and they'll bear, then bark, then frenzy, and you'll feel like you're hitting a brick wall and swap off
and they just got max value because they got all that FREE frenzy healing that wasn't punished
and it'll be off cd next time u hit them
plain wing
but then if i stop hitting druid, if he puts cen ward on himself, the Dh will just blur or some shit
sharp meteor
this is part of hwy rdruid rly cringe in 2s
plain wing
idk seems hard
i look forward to queueing all day.. by the time im off work im so fucking tired and brain foggy i int hard hahah
sharp meteor
much easier to see stuff that went wrong when it isn't really heat of the moment
plain wing
common themes I need to integrate into my play .....
1). hold fear for oh shit moments and big enemy dam (dont use randomly
2). Better manage battle stance (dont sit in defense during cd's if able)
3). Save reflect for mindgames if against a priest
4). Better uptime on hamstring
5). Know when to hit what target (feel like a lot of the time I dont know what target to be on..... not considering what defensives have been used etc).
plain wing
#5 seems like the hardest.... I tunnel so hard / not able to think clearly in games it's hard for me to see what defensives/trinkets have been used and when to be on what target
just so not clear headed in games
sharp meteor
if you don't know then just imagine who you'd have better uptime on
like you can smack a shadow priest in the face all day no issue for instance
plain wing
yea
and i need to continue to work on positioning
like if a DH pops blur
am i better switching targets?
sharp meteor
you and me both my healer is always quite vocal when we aren't spacing properly
that's just it, whether or not you swap off just kind of depends
if u can turn and instantly tap somebody else its usually good
if u will end up waddling back or worse getting bash cloned behind a pillar probably not
plain wing
In rdruid / DH i ran into the problem of like DH would blur.... so I'd switch druid but then druid just goes bear etc.... when DH blur fades the Druid would swap Cenarion ward on him, or worst case scenario barkskin him
so it just swap back and forth without accompolishing anyhthing
sharp meteor
in the case of rdruid i have found best bet is usually try to drag the rdruid into a spot where they can be swapped to
somebody makes a positional/spacing error eventually, or outright throws by using mobility to hop into you
dh is also weird because u wanna carefully cc/disarm/pierce his stuff but also not really stack
uneven turret
How hard is it to go from 2100 to 2400/glad in 3s?
sharp meteor
i think the biggest difference is that there's generally more of a plan as to who is using what in response to what, even if it's kind of rough, instead of spamming everything into one person and hoping to brute force unga bunga them
plain wing
I never know when to fear, disarm, or stun a rogue first
i kinda panic
with big burst classes like that
and stuns
cedar silo
I never know when to fear, disarm, or stun a rogue first
do one of them first, then second one after trinket
full quiver
Disarm first during their go if they trinket you can stun and start your own dam
plain wing
So watch out for shadow dance and shadow blades
plain wing
Ok
So trinket disarm or nah
I feel like I always get disarmed after I Didarm rogue haha
sharp meteor
trinket parry or trinket disarm on the vendetta kidney is fin eyeah
and people often disarm when they get disarmed because unga bunga brain wants to press something
if u get disarmed outside warbreaker especially with other cds coming up u can usually kick their face in when it's back up
especiaally coming out of a stun
plain wing
ok
thanks man
so never disarm and follow up with a parry
like i should only ever need 1 yea?
unless my healer is like perma cc'd
and is the move to always intervene as 1st sap on healer is ending so rogue cant get another?
I just dont wanna run into a position where I trinket disarm and then healer gets blinded or something\
then they trinket etc
@sharp meteor do i hold stun for warbreaker always? also, do i hold warbreaker and avatar for 2nd conq banner?
sharp meteor
sometimes, depends on what they can do about it
you want to be able to hold them in it for as long as possible
mortal elm
so ummm how can i farm rating to 1800 from 1400? i was playing with someone and i made 1400 in one day but
have 0 idea how can i get to 1800 and get elite set
never done pvp besides in a mop private servers years ago, dont know how to find ppl to play
sharp meteor
just grab similar cr healer out of finder
lucid walrus
so ummm how can i farm rating to 1800 from 1400? i was playing with someone and ...
kill other teams and make rating go up
kinda just have to tough it out in lfg if you don't have anyone
mortal elm
kill other teams and make rating go up
out of 4 of 5 ppl makes that joke
is this meme in pvp community or something?
sharp meteor
yeah because people ask questions that can't be concisely answered
helps to offer up some situation that you're having trouble with
lucid walrus
out of 4 of 5 ppl makes that joke
that's how you climb. there's no cut and dried answer for you
plain wing
do i run the parry or rallying cry conduit
errr parry or ignore pain*
or both
and no rallying
and which finesse conduits do yall run for 2s or whatever
been running safeguard, but the piercing howl one seems good too
WHAT THE FUCK
i got 100-d by a demonbolt
what the fuck is this game
254 ilvl
actually so tilting.
yhow the fuck do you beat affli lock and spriest... when i can get 100 -d
sharp meteor
and yeah it's always parry + safeguard and for the other finesse i like piercing as it saves rage and helps with that lack of reach thing
plain wing
WHY THE FUCK AM I QUEUING INTO MIRROSR
and my shaman cant do shit
im just rooted the whole game
and the enemy warrior ruins my shama
he cant fucking stay alive
what teh fuck
like i cant do shit cuz im perma rooted
fucking so triggered
like why cant my fucking shaman dispell me or some shit
or atleast stay the fuck alive
i just cant do shit when im rooted the whole time
PERMA CC IN ROGUE RESTO DRUID
THIS GAME IS FUCKING FUIJKLNASD FJKL;3ERGJIOG JIMOP[G M0[34o$34GV
2V ]
sitting full roots to clones back to back
like i cant win fucking games
what the fuck
let me PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
gloomy beacon
Sounds like you are going through some stuff right now
plain wing
3 game losing streak
NICE
JUST LOSING TO O THER WARRIORS
IM FUCKING GARBAGE
FUCK THIS GAME
idk what the fuck to do
my healer is just getting fucked
or im getting fuckedcx
disarmed every fucking go
Losing to fucking holy pally arms warrior comp
like i cant fucking do shit to pally
disarmed every fucking go
getting so fucking titled by these dogshit games
MM and resto druid games
like what do you even fucking do
you cant hit anyone
gloomy beacon
You probably know this but sometimes it’s worth trinketing the disarm if you really feel like you can lay into them
Or bait the disarm with a quick cancel bladestorm
plain wing
BRO
I INSTANTLY FUCKING DIE
TO HUNTER
81K DAMAGE IN 2 GLOBAS
WHAT THE FUCK, IS THIS GAME
gloomy beacon
You running any weak auras for enemy CDs?
plain wing
bro
i literally parried immediately
this game is fucking garbage as shit
ass
what the fuck is this game
im so fucking tilted
fuck this game man..... getting back to back games where warriors are just ruining me
sharp meteor
i don't see disarm on your bars
plain wing
or fucking rogue resto druid teams are just cc'ing me for the whole fucking game
sharp meteor
but that was kyrian empower and you were in a vortex
plain wing
@sharp meteor hidden bar
sharp meteor
was fine to send parry and/or rally immediately
plain wing
like these vods im posting in review
im just getting fucked
i can never conntect cd's
gloomy beacon
Kinda waited on that Druid there also around that corner after you got him with the howl
plain wing
i eitehr get scuffed by warriors or completely outdamaged
gloomy beacon
I would just lay into him there and not let their set up start
plain wing
or i sit in cc's for 15 seconds straight while my shaman gets obliterated by a rogue
like waht the fuck is this
such a tilting fucking game
like i cant play the fucking game at all
full cc
or just getting ful lon rekt.
sharp meteor
like in that particular situation u could've just walked back there with the druid and the hunter would've had to run all the way over into line
plain wing
so fucking frustrating.
sharp meteor
also that was like full send so parry+rally immediately would've been fine
dw happened to my partner the other day albeit with summer and bop hehe
gloomy beacon
Just based on that game you hesitated in a few different times where as I probably would have just full send
sharp meteor
he got popped 100 to 0 in just under a second i think
plain wing
like i have yet to play a game where i feel like im in control and actually playing well
i fucking int
and panic
and fucking run around
im so fucking tilted like i just wanna play well.
gloomy beacon
Just try not to over think it, but the moment you start sitting back like that you are letting the set up comps get set up
plain wing
like how the fuck am i supposed to look at omnibar to see incoming warrior stormbolts when im fucking tunneling so hard and trying to pay attention to other shit
this fucking game man.
i want to break my fucking keyboard
KL;FUIA UNIKML;2wefgh jio
elder wigeon
take a few weeks off man
plain wing
season will be over
then ill have to start form 0 and be even more shit man.
like why the fuck cant i get better
fucking INFURAITING
PURE PANIC ALL THE FUCKING TIME
gloomy beacon
I don’t think you are really giving yourself the chance to get better lol
Also change it up, give some 3s a shot
plain wing
LOSING TO A FUCKING ROGUE THATS WAITING FOR 2 FUCKING IMNUTES AND RUNNING AROUND PILLARS IN FUCKING SKIRMS
HOLY FUCK
THIS GAME IS SO BAD
HOW THE FUICK DO ANY OF YOU DO THIS
THE JMOST TITLTING SHIT INT HEF UCKING WORLD
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND'
fucking noice
gloomy beacon
I mean you aren’t going to win every game, and 1v1s definitely aren’t usually in the warriors favor
plain wing
fucking sickkkkkkkk gameeeeeee
why am i soooooooo fuckingggggg badddddd
Nah 3s are even worse
cant keep track of shit in 2s let alone 3s
fucking thjis game man
i NEVER feel in fucking control ..... EVER.. I just want to feel like im playing well and in fucking control
and i Never do
always defensive
tunneling and panicking
like what lthe fuck
i just want to fee like im in control of a fucking match and hitting the right buttons for once
not just fucking tunneling
have 6 ilvl on that fucking rogue
AND I JUST FUCKING THROW
never press the right thing
dead
OH WAIT
im dead
DEAD AGAION
gloomy dock
plain wing
i fucking get ruined by hunters, rogues, rets, dh's, warriors
pretty much every class tbh
spriest, locks
hunters drag me in open
cant do anything
lucid walrus
rets just get cut down given enough time. hunters are typically a game of mobility or good swaps, etc
full quiver
Bruh you just gotta think about how much higher you are now than a couple weeks ago
You're improving a lot
fickle forge
@plain wing I've no clue how you can sit here and write an entire Facebook mom post every day, when you sit with more rating than the average player does
Ever thought you might be overthinking your situation just a bit?
plain wing
i mean
its fucking absurd
queuing into boomkin DH's
you play for am in
then they cc you
and just 1 shot u
like this game is fucking infuriating
sharp meteor
for me it's instrumental music and jasmine green tea
fickle forge
like this game is fucking infuriating
So stop
Lmao
Why would you willingly subject yourself to torture?
plain wing
the fact so many bullshit classes like rogue lock, ret and DH exist
is actually mindblowing
oh i didnt forget MM
yea
all these fucking oneshots
cant do fucking shit
spice hornet
thats 2s buddy
sharp meteor
Wax on, wax off 
Go to your happy place
Queued into Surv/Rdruid with a tipsy healer? Nope, I'm in valley of the four winds.
fierce elm
except that warrior shits on all of them in 2s lmao
plain wing
oh really
teach me then
how the fuck do you do anything when a lock fucks you one tap
or a hunter fucks you one tap
less than 1 second 100 - 0
or you know
rogue resto druid, literally being rooted/cloned for the whole fucking game
how do you do that
please inform me
because in my eyes
i just get fucking cucked
sharp meteor
If you lose it should be at the very least a few minutes into the game, not in the opener. 
plain wing
likterally 15 seconds of cc
healer gets fucking shabanged
oh im training Spriest ? warlock SHABANGS ME
2 globals
nice
main copper
I know when to spell reflect demon bolt as my Priest is shouting at me in the run up to it.
plain wing
GOOD. GAME
sharp meteor
Sir arms is one of the most solid specs right now
plain wing
what about being chain cc'd
while rogue eats my healer
I mean i literally die to every spec
i have no idea what the fuck to do with rogue.... i disarm when they appear
open
they trinket evasion
run for restalth
boom
dead on next go
in a kidney
while healer is cc'd
or im cc'd
sharp meteor
I hate this timeline.
fierce elm
Well, affli requires giga setup, run to pillar against MM so they cant open freely, save BS+Reflect+ava for root/clones, dstance parry spell reflect ret go
there
I solved it for you
plain wing
LIKE HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THIS GAME
sharp meteor
Bolt something and hit it hard idk
fierce elm
Put your big boy pants on now
fickle forge
the fact so many bullshit classes like rogue lock, ret and DH exist
You're the literal best melee in the game right now though 
main copper
Rets are pretty easy wins
fierce elm
Kick DH eyebeam/disarm it, dont stack during Meta/Demon go
sharp meteor
Ret/healer should be free in 2s
fierce elm
there you go
plain wing
and im just getting CLAPPED FOR WEEKS
fickle forge
have you fucking seen ret and DH damage
Yes, and you're still the best melee lol
sharp meteor
Yeah, what Afro said about Havoc.
plain wing
Like Ill pop cd's and Literally be cc'd for ages against rogue rest druid
plain wing
@fierce elm wnat me to link you a game from last night where the dude did 7k sustained for a 3 minute fight?
sharp meteor
u need to peel that dam mang
fierce elm
its not 7k sustained because its inflated my glaive damage
plain wing
@fierce elm how about when rogue has 15% hp then I sit in fucking root and cyclone for 10 seconds straight
and literally ahve to watch my healer die
spice hornet
it is pretty close to 7k sustained tho
sharp meteor
stun demonic disarm then piercing and walk away
nah not vs a single target not even close
fierce elm
How do you now have avatar/bs/dispel/reflect/trinket up
fierce elm
You can keep throwing these excuses out and its all gonna come down to you having to realize that your anger leads nowhwre
plain wing
Like i cannot consistently win at all.. .I just get lucky with my few and far between wins
I NEVER feel in control or that Im actually making good moves.
fierce elm
and that you need to understand that you are an S tier spec who shits on 98% of matchups in 2s
plain wing
I just get muckbanged.
sharp meteor
u have 200 games played shut up and q
plain wing
i dont give a fuck bro
main copper
You are over 2k you must be winning more than losing
plain wing
Im obviouskly dog shit
fierce elm
Get your big boy pants on and learn or just stop ranting lmao
sharp meteor
200 games wtf shut
plain wing
just costnat getting shit on
sharp meteor
tiny baby
fierce elm
goddam just cease
plain wing
oh wait
i LOS MM???
OH WAIT
A 20K RAPID FIRE FOLLOWS ME
OH SHIT
NICE
lioterally cannot find a way to win fucking ever.
fierce elm
its 20k damage
plain wing
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sharp meteor
Bro arms is one of the reasons why non-venthyr mm doesn't work
you just break their root hop on their shit disarm/stun them and they wanna alt f4
fickle forge
Ngl, at this point it's prob a valk tag to get this guy out
sharp meteor
Everybody has frustrating queue sessions but I feel like he's being unreasonable.
fickle forge
It's every day now that man comes to slam his anger down on the table
At least take the advice given bro
main copper
He embodies our core resource at least.
sharp meteor
He's like that old guy in rbgs that unironically starts smashing shit when things aren't working out
main copper
fickle forge
Average RBG smasher fan vs average RBG steering wheel guardian druid enjoyer
fickle forge
Forget skirms
plain wing
and just instantly die
i feel worthless in all aspects of the game.
in 2s i get shit on
in skirms i get shit on
Nothing I can ever do.
Genuinely do not get this game.
so much cc and burst in this game
i never know what the fuck to do
all the roots, cc's, blinds, stuns, disarms
dmg defensives
fears
like how do i find a window to do anything
its like the games i win
is jyust fucking luck
i dont get it
so much happening, so many options of how to respond
I dont get it.
quasi lotus
Skirms are a meme it doesn't matter. Warrior is fucking awful in skirms too
fierce elm
Im amazed at your ability to take what everyone is saying and just ignore it. you must be the biggest 
addict of them all
spice hornet
im convinced hes a maste rtrol
fickle forge
fierce elm
he 100% is
somber comet
i feel worthless in all aspects of the game.
You need to get a better attitude. If you're always defeatist, you'll always be defeated. Listen to the feedback and adapt. Overcome.
Be like an Ork in Warhammer.
Believe you will overcome
And it will become reality.
thick reef
What do we value more, mast or haste? Trying to decide which legs to buy
spice hornet
haste
sharp meteor
Probably haste.
sharp meteor
2s players are the BIG cringe
its like 3s is the designated sweat bracket let me enjoy 2s
spice hornet
just dumb how some comps can be 600 rating higher in it than they normally would be
at least with warrior 2.1 is free but after that you have to try prtty hard
sharp meteor
was that u ont he forums that got smacked for advertising for carries
spice hornet
into bm/x or r/m
sharp meteor
yeah unfun if healer is out of it
sharp meteor
almost die to some male fox with glasses 💀
spice hornet
my favb
sharp meteor
yeah people super bitter rn i would avoid any adverts
mystic barn
@plain wing just play dk
sharp meteor
i feel like he'd have an aneurysm and die playing dk in 2s
3s is another story frost tsg is a good time
mystic barn
nah I want to see him play frost dk in 2s
and yea frost tsg feels aight finishing my glad wins on it
warped warren
2s players are the BIG cringe
stfu, 2s is the real bracket
sharp meteor
ew ew ew
mystic barn
eu eu eu eu eu
elder wigeon
most things aren't the best in 2's, that's just a reality you gotta accept
DK sucks in 2's, with that being said, it's still a really unfun class to play into, 70% slows are cancer and I'm sick of them
sharp meteor
knock out duelist for quick and easy gear then never touch it again
mystic barn
wat I just wanna see him try it, less options as warrior so he has less to focus on
elder wigeon
kek
spice hornet
he should play bm hunter
elder wigeon
just go demon hunter and drool on people
spice hornet
bet he would be happy
mystic barn
but then he would have to pick his dmg boost off the ground
spice hornet
that actually is pretty annoying to do kekw
sharp meteor
on one hand a barebones spec lets u focus on fundamentals but on the other it can let u ignore them
like bm hunter max range don't trap just pve dam boom several hundred rating higher than u would be on a real spec
main copper
I just play my Holy Paladin and my Warrior as I have since forever and let other people fotm reroll.
That said I do think BM Hunter is a bit of a war crime. Not sure how that shit is legal.
sharp meteor
just a numbers nerf pls holinka make them do less dam
they just crank so hard and u can't stop it
main copper
I kinda just got to hit the healer as the BM is in narnia and can make gaps more than I can close them. Only time I manage to stick to one was a sneaky Velf racial.
Suppose it does not help that it is always Nagrand Arena or Tol'viron 😄
sharp meteor
queue into some cringe doublle wizard shit with a mw and it's always tolviron or moogumbooger 💀
and just had a match vs jungle the other game on boogumooger where they chased our rdruid around the big central pillar for a minute until we killed the hunter it was the most bizarre thing
main copper
Seems a bit odd for Jungle
sharp meteor
our healer swapped from mw to rdruid because kitty/jungle every game
main copper
Could be Turbo Cleave alts?
sharp meteor
we usually only run at healer on dhboom 🙂
nimble jasper
we usually only run at healer on dhboom 🙂
i just lost braincells
watching a dh rsham lose to disc fire mage in a 2v2
sharp meteor
i queued into wm playing with some newbie friend and he couldn't do anything with disc priest
sharp meteor
its like one of the best mages
getting ooga booged by some random melee ape
and can't do anything because 2s with a disc
nimble jasper
nah some rando rat rmp
that still tries to go
after getting rung before their stun
way to not pre your target before sending blind and sap
main copper
Rogues are weird, some are godly tanky son of a bitches. Some accidantly become kill targets during sweeping strikes.
sharp meteor
same with dh tbh have dinged a few because they inted blur or used medallion to peel their rsham
sharp meteor
wym
nimble jasper
saps healers blinds other dps
monk is still not in cc
just ring around now you have no stun on your opener
get ported on bust
doesnt even try to salvage by stun busting someone else
remote hawk
Which legendaries will be best for fury in pvp ?
raw summit
Arms
remote hawk
come on
main copper
Elysian Might
raw summit
Signet or deathmaker also work
fierce elm
Prot
elder wigeon
memes aside, this will likely be nuts if the recklessness procs from the tier set trigger it as well
fierce elm
Bringing out my crystal ball to predict rn
elder wigeon
meta is volatile and unpredictable
fierce elm
Night fae leggo and Unhinged
main copper
Putting my crystal balls on the table, EM and Battlelord for Arms.
Overpower procs on the tier set, Mortal Strike procs from OP on the lego. Let's go.
elder wigeon
how do you plan to get more overpowers when spending 15 rage on those mortal strikes
elder wigeon
pog
you'd need a full haste build for that to work but man it'd be super fun
most will likely play enduring though
cedar silo
yeah, but enduring gets kinda boring
Warbringer with Unhinged banged at low rating though
elder wigeon
i am an enjoyer of having csmash without getting disarmed
elder wigeon
kek
if they notice, warbreaker is the only way to actually outplay disarm by doing it from range
peak irony
cedar silo
i mean i face warriors who disarms into bs and parry
disarms outside of CDs n shit
2.200 was a wild place
elder wigeon
yeah I get disarms at my rating too, it happens
i also disarm into bladestorm sometimes too, just the cost of trying hard to get it
cedar silo
I kinda wanna run 20% haste 10% crit to smooth globals out
the amount of times i've gotten disarmed as im mashing bs
elder wigeon
yeah it's just gonna happen
cedar silo
Love waddling around for 6 seconds. IP once, maybe aoe slow or a cheeky fleshcraft
time goes by so slowly 
elder wigeon
just use that time to think
warped warren
I kinda wanna run 20% haste 10% crit to smooth globals out
embrace the full haste 
gloomy beacon
The times that a huge crit saved my bacon though 😦 I’m scared
warped warren
consistency > praying for crits
gloomy beacon
But a higher crit rate = less praying and more crits
I’m just trolling I see the merits for both builds
warped warren
elder wigeon
I like 10/20 right now instead of 20/10
gloomy beacon
I’m just more wondering how often you actually get to leverage that extra global in a WB window without something just inevitably stopping you short. But hey more frequent CS procs sounds good to me