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nimble jasper
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dont leave pillars

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vs ranged

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if you do ring around the rosie with pillars sometimes you can get them

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to use shit stupidly

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from being mad

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and punish it

plain wing
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ok

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still just tunneling so fucking much

nimble jasper
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the best bm is when i play rogue tho in 1v1s

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and just come out to /dance with someone

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makes people so mad

lucid walrus
nimble jasper
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melee rule

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attac w/e is in range

lucid walrus
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just not sure what you're specifically paying attn to

nimble jasper
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killing hunter pets

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is also nice

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if you stop rez

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alot of hunters spend forever trying to get it back

plain wing
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ok

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im trying not to tilt so much

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prolly working on that more than actually playing well

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mind if you look over a game of my mich?

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rough hunter disc game

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obviously was in the open too muich but yea

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but yea still tilted beyond belief....

nimble jasper
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I mean besides not pressing hamstring enough

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you channel a full bladestorm on a priest that has PS running+eating hunter dmg during trueshot+PI

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fears were kind of useless

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Need to parry before you get unloaded on

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Could have put up sweeping strikes to damage the pet maybe their team is stupid and doesnt top it/spends globals topping it.

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Kind of random warbreakers w/o pressure going

full quiver
elder wigeon
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you can use sharpen two ways, to help get a target into execute range or to sharpen the heals when a target is low

trail coyote
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turbo vs ret war

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what do

sharp meteor
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cry

lucid walrus
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cope, seethe and/or mald

sharp meteor
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i feel like retwarr should win but sometimes they don't deadge

trail coyote
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Ok cool, appreciate the tip

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just a random lfg group but i'm trying to learn the pov

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felt hard af vs ret war other than that was pretty fun

sharp meteor
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feels dead into wps and retwarr man deadge

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yeah

trail coyote
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luckily avoided wps

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was only like 2.1 mmr

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I comp stomped for like 4 hours today

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pls send help

sharp meteor
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ya i need to do more of that on alt warrs for upgrades ughghh

trail coyote
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its getting so mindless bro

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thankful its here for an easier grind

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but god damn

sharp meteor
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one warr from 230 to 250, other from 170 to 250

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mind is melting

trail coyote
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LMAO

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fucking savage

sharp meteor
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i will stomp every comp

trail coyote
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I went from like 235 to 251

sharp meteor
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this is my last lazy honor binge

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gettin everything setup deadge

trail coyote
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think turbo will be better in 9.2?

sharp meteor
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my enh and his enh buddies don't seem hopeful deadge we'll see though

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retwarr probably going to be even better aaaa cringeeeee

trail coyote
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feelsbad

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im just excited for machine gun starsurge

tranquil hemlock
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I need to upgrade 4 more pieces sadge

sharp meteor
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i can't tell if just bodying the rsham in dhboom is the play or we're just getting lucky

trail coyote
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honestly think its the play

sharp meteor
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it's like enh can cover mooner peels aside from incap

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so it's just chaos nova that's spooky

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and can cycle stuff for that to try to mitigate their go

trail coyote
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if you don't go sham its like gas pedal tf out of the boomy

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but then fast clones

sharp meteor
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yeah so gooing rsham seems to put boomie on defensive lowing their dam, then u can cover goes with grounds/shears and wahtnot

trail coyote
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have had some success just zug dh in open

sharp meteor
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and rsham doesn't have much themselves to go through

trail coyote
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exactly

sharp meteor
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dhh too tanky with blur

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unless u gib in a stun

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and too easy to throw that off with a single clone pool knock incap etc

trail coyote
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agree

topaz edge
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was wondering, how many of you especially at the higher ratings use 1h+shield to use shield block when say rogue is tunneling you. or you rely on dbts+def stance?

scarlet barn
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Very rarely it is worth because you dont really do dam and also it costs you gcd but it can completely disable go from melee on you

topaz edge
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Yeah that's my thought, while you don't do dmg in this case, when you're being tunneled in a stun, you don't do dmg anyway.. or say a hunter is tunneling you and you know you cant connect..

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had a case yday where mm just rekt me thru a pillar

odd nest
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hmmm can any one tell me what slot i should buy [Enduring Blow] in 9.2

topaz edge
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and dbts+def was not enough.. sure he scored lucky crits but still

odd nest
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With set pieces it would be belt right ?

shy aurora
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Is good are arms warriors in 2s compared to other melee? Are they till s tier?

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How good*

fierce elm
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yes

shy aurora
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I played my monk til 2,2 k but all i wanna do know is play my warr instead of pushing further 😅

elder wigeon
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I wouldn't say arms is the best but it is very good

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outlaw and survival are better at the absolute highest level

elder wigeon
steep inlet
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guys

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is there a way to put the elem pet icons on the shortcut bar ?

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cant find a way

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sorry its not warrior related but well

elder wigeon
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I think there's an addon called moveanything

steep inlet
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hmm maybe i can try

rapid shore
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u can move default ui parts with it

steep inlet
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i just wanna bind hardened skin

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without fucking my binds :(

fierce elm
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@fickle forge help this french mak

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man*

raw summit
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make a macro

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might work

fierce elm
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You can also do that

steep inlet
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oh good idea

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i go try now

rapid shore
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ye just use /Cast :)

raw summit
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./cast hardened skin

rapid shore
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:D

steep inlet
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it worked thanks ! brilliant idea

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i only have to bind hardened and stun if i remember well

thick reef
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At what point does ilvl take priority over vers? I have some 226 gear w/ vers and 252 w/o vers.

fierce elm
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259

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But nah if you are just starting out equip the 252 instead of the 226 with vers

elder wigeon
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it's important you have >=30% vers, but ilvl is really important too

fierce elm
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I would just equip the larger pieces at 252

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weapon

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chest

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legs

elder wigeon
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weapon, main pieces, yeah

fickle forge
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So you can press it once to summon, and again if you want the wall

steep inlet
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hmm yes

jaunty furnace
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What covenant are all the cool kids playing for arena

fierce elm
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No covenant

desert meadow
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Hey, I cant find a way around that but how can some guys make 30k+ exec as necro ? just playing with full crit gear or just lucky ?

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I'm playing almost full haste necro an my biggest exec was like 20k so dunno if i'am just bad or smth x)

fierce elm
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Luck

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and max imvl

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ilvl*

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You gotta have the luck to crit during cooldowns

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with an execute proc

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or full rage execute

desert meadow
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okay okay, i'm not fully geared so that might be it too

elder wigeon
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i mean I've hit some clean 40K executes

floral ingot
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Need to have sinful revelation on target as well

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I think the highest I had was 42k or something

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Can be even higher with rend

fierce elm
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When you dont crit tho sadge

elder wigeon
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right now i play 10% haste 20% crit

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feels right

topaz edge
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biggest crit i had was 28k on rogue, with 233ilvl pvp gear during banner + trinket + orc racial..

dry trail
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warrior hunter works ?

fiery walrus
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hello friends, a noob question overhere, should I use Rend for pvp?

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or delete this?

hard nacelle
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I don't play arms but I've seen rend used effectively past duelist

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There's a better answer out there

vapid ruin
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guys for a necrolord with high crit which legendary should i use?

warped warren
floral ingot
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Depends on your comp?
MW monk can use revival after soul rot and completely shut down aff locks damage
Priests can do the same with fade+ MD

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Shadow play felt pretty easy as war/sp/druid and MW turbo for me personally

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Do big dam, respect their cds, don’t overextend if you can’t kill

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Pillar is your friend if things go south

floral ingot
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Other than that you can’t go wrong with massacre

dry trail
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best 3v3 comp for kyrian ?

shy aurora
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Warr/ret/+

steep inlet
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no it’s necro for ret

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Kyrian is with sp

sweet sluice
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is comp stomp actually any good for honor ffarm

warped warren
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yes

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best source

fickle forge
wheat jay
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dogshit comp

fiery walrus
wheat jay
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miss one trap and lose

warped warren
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it hurts to see artji and kargish play perfectly into just about any comp and lose to mana

thick reef
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ye

warped warren
thick reef
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feels like warr/destro

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kekw make goood plays lose cuz ur destro cant cast

floral ingot
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Played 600-700 games in the last 3 weeks, saw 2 destro warlocks in total

hushed plank
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Barley see them now they all affliction lol

sharp meteor
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can also feel nice into stuff like retwarr as long as u don't bungle rage management

cedar silo
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its really tilting dropping 100 rating while playing with multiglads and having no one to blame but yourself

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big sadge

trail coyote
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No pressure no diamonds

floral ingot
thick reef
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yuea now its

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aff/demo

cedar silo
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like how getting faked on poly stop has compounding effects down the line

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I have no clue how to play into aff lock and mage teams

floral ingot
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Just takes practice, you got this

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Watch vods, play games

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The only thing separating you is experience

cedar silo
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Im more of a play games kinda guy, but set my goal at glad this season and mount if im actually liking pvp

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Going down to 2140 from 2270 is rough lol

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kinda just need to vent

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i know what to improve on mostly

floral ingot
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Same, actually

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Haven’t pvped since LK

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Getting close to 2.4 now

cedar silo
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Last time i pvp'ed just to pvp was in MoP where i never got past 1900 i think

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Got 1800 last 2 seasons for gear in PvE

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Road to 2100 was pretty easy and got there within 160 games i think

sharp meteor
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if u think u tilting then take break and play alt or something

trail coyote
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best heals for turbo rn?

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rsham / rdruid still? xd

sharp meteor
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umm rdruid mw and rsham all nice into different things

trail coyote
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yea for sure

sharp meteor
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mw nice offensively because they can roll in for incap on healer during ur first go

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there's also the peaceweave which is super nice

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wps feels super good on necro warr with mw

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versus kyrian with rdruid

trail coyote
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I feel that

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good insights

sharp meteor
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spriest just gets their skull caved in

cedar silo
sharp meteor
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yeah you'll go up and down just how it goes

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queue into bad matchup 5 times in a row and it's like ajhdsjkasda

minor locust
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haste or crit for necro?

sharp meteor
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yes

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i think in general it's like haste/enduring, but crit with unhinged or just in general with kitty (kyrian feral) seems super good

minor locust
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aight

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haste it is

sharp meteor
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there's also that memer playing full mastery with signet

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but yeah i think it varies by comp AND matchup

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i just went full haste

spice hornet
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i still sit here and wonder why thye nerf the pet rez from 4 sec to 3 sec

minor locust
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sweet thats what im doing too

sharp meteor
spice hornet
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thats their only weakness

sharp meteor
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ehh hunter takes a lot of dam they just mobile

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have had a decent amount of games where we gib pet either by mistake or it gets cleaved hard enough that i can just turn and tap it

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it's not every game and if good players know you're going pet then they just run double pet talent

spice hornet
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eh taht awc hunter dilly has said if you let your pet die as a hunter its 100% ur fault

sharp meteor
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i queued into him and killed his pet actually lol

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although he was playing with lowbie friends

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it can happen sometimes

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chain harvest and mortal combo

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ding

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pet is kill

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so generally u maintain mend pet, which is a nice buffer, then there's exhil as a bit of an oh shit if it gets chunked as its a full health heal, then you have your healer swap heals to it if it gets tunneled

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and if enemy teams 100% commit to pet then u just play double pet talent

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that's why he says pet never rly the issue

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because if the matchup ever comes down to whether or not the pet can stay alive then u as the hunter should win, but in one-off games the pets can very easily get dinged as hunters often aren't paying much attention to their position/health, especially under pressure

floral ingot
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You can do it, focus on your plays

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Stay cool and grind

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47 more wins to lfg tho :/

ruby harbor
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Struggling with double ranged with an Rsham, anyone have any ideas? Double hunter is hard, same with lock/hunter

sharp meteor
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just queued into surv/aff then he respecced mm/aff that was interesting

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ended up gibbing aff lock first game in the second spear and second game was like 10 minutes before i ran down the mm

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poor lock didn't know that my druid vortexed him just prior so he could've ported out of the spear lmao

cedar silo
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found a paladin and a pretty good priest with whom i try to coordinate games

floral ingot
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Good for you, I haven’t found a single ret that plays well

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Feels like they all zug zuged their way up and they belong on 2k max

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I play with a priest/mage/boomie and they actually show that they know how to play the game

sharp meteor
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there's a certain unwillingness to wog themselves, let alone teammates

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then ofc not using freedom/sanc/sac etc

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its like pls

floral ingot
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Meanwhile rets just go in, die without bubble, never use sanc, 0 wogs

sharp meteor
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must be all the havoc players who are now back on havoc

floral ingot
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Played with a glad havoc, he died 2 games in a row cause he didn’t reverse soul rot and got deathbolted

cedar silo
floral ingot
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Lmao

cedar silo
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i swear

cedar silo
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nobody has a clue how to play vs aff lock

floral ingot
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Just reflect a 40k deathbolt and he’s toast

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Pretty simple

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Kappa

cedar silo
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Yeah, imma just react to a 0.6 second cast from the other side of fucking shit mugambala

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fuck that arena

sharp meteor
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"dispel when u see soul rot"

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i swear 90% of healers have ptsd of when u died dispelling ua and refuse to do it again

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when that's what ur meant to do, cycle dispels and kicks

cedar silo
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what i usually say before every match

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is it wrong just throwing kicks on ua into lock

sharp meteor
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soul rot + dark glare = wall/dispel ASAP

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no ur meant to stop ua

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and dispel ua

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to keep their pressure down

floral ingot
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Ye, lock is useless if there is no ua on target

cedar silo
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So when you face shadowplay

sharp meteor
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u dispel ua when there's no danger of followup

cedar silo
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you sit lock get raped by priest

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sit priest, get deathbolted by lock

sharp meteor
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other way around usually imo

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lock too mobile especially with priest

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they have port, gate out of spear, priest grip (they can grip bolt which scuffs spear)

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then the 1 minute full heatlth shield that can be used while stunned and kicked because its physical

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imo splay is be care on soul but generally just go priest as they can't run

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and swapping off priest means they get their cds back to have to tunnel priest

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imo splay if they play well beats u most times but a lot of them aren't good so

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like if they don't improperly cycle stuff

cedar silo
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I just, especially vs shadowplay, get lost in who to hit and what to stop

sharp meteor
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imo its usually sp

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aff too slippery

floral ingot
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How come a class went from most immobile to most mobile in one expac

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That’s hilarious

sharp meteor
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better to be mobile than a ball of stats

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actually coordinating the kiting/mobility aspect is good

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whereas destro afking in the middle of the arena and only dying in dampening isnt

floral ingot
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That’s true, it’s just wild to me how the class pulled a 180 in terms of class design in one expac time

cedar silo
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Buffing Death Pact opened up a lot

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also demon armor

sharp meteor
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the pact buff was funny yeah

floral ingot
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I swear, it’s easier to catch a mage

sharp meteor
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actually did help so much

cedar silo
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but i dont actually know if they use that when pact exists

sharp meteor
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a loit of warlocks refused to play it because they thought they needed the nerfed demon skin

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also its demon skin not demon armor on that row

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which was historically the pick but got nerfed then pact buffed in volatile meta

cedar silo
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ye

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played lock s1

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it was pain

sharp meteor
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but yeah mog spriest and if kyrian i think spear is to bait their fade then send go

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never spear then immeidately bolt because they fade after spear 99% of the time

cedar silo
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yeah

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i havent played a lot of kyrian warrior since melee cleaves are 0iq required

floral ingot
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Just play necro

sharp meteor
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they're both quite nice

floral ingot
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Did a 44k execute on my last game to 2.4

sharp meteor
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just depends on what u queuing and who u queuing into

floral ingot
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Was nice

raw summit
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NEW DUCK JUST DROPPED

cedar silo
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Kinda feel like you are trolling if you arent playing necro as melee cleave

raw summit
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i like it peepoBlush

sharp meteor
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lol idk about that

floral ingot
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Nah, kyrian feels nice with enh/kyrian ret

sharp meteor
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kyrian turb feels better into most stuff

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kyrian also feels good with ret

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idk just depends

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tsg also good with spear

cedar silo
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giving ret big dam on his go and then having your own afterwards feels so good though

sharp meteor
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yeah but spearing people so they can't move owo

cedar silo
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guess i just gotta play more kyrian

sharp meteor
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plus it's more often whereas BIG wings go is like

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all-in

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not that it's bad it's just kind of different

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yeah i need to queue more retwarr my sham is on the edge

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its like better/easier turbo except worse into like rm

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and probably shadow

floral ingot
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Having 1 mins line up is really nice
Doomwinds/seraphim+toll with spear is mega Poggers

cedar silo
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R/m always feel like cheating

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but thats most likely cause im terribad

sharp meteor
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i don't mind queuing into rm any more bedge might be because not high enough to queue into the actually good ones tho

raw summit
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imagine queueing into whaaaz riku rm wokege

cedar silo
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I mean they fuck up go's, but im not at a point where i have any clue whatsoever what to commit when

sharp meteor
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does whaaz have a us acc because i think i queued into his dh

floral ingot
raw summit
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odds are he has

floral ingot
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In offensive stance

raw summit
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but im not sure

sharp meteor
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god dh/boom is weird it's like u need to get blur out of the way before u send anything on dh or they just blur out and u get no value

cedar silo
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then mage just rings, novas, blinks, polies half, alter, block etc etc

sharp meteor
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spear onto rsham then cleaving dh so hard that he blurs then swapping bolt to him next go feels decent

cedar silo
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they have so fucking much

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is why i feel like its kinda cheating lol

floral ingot
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They do, but even 2.5 rm don’t use their tools correctly

cedar silo
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it feels like its just a "mangitude of wrong usage"

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which i feel like is without much effort is always in the rm favor

floral ingot
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If rm plays well it’s gg go next

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But that’s rarely the case

sharp meteor
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i feel like with terb it's not to bad to cycle stuff bedge not looking forward to retwarr though

scarlet barn
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@graceful quarry goodbye

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you will be missed

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😦

sharp meteor
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reaching the point where rm has to do fake goes to try to bait something because they can't actually just do a go when druid is in stealth

cedar silo
sharp meteor
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yeah need to have a plan as to who uses their stuff

cedar silo
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yeah which is fucking rough in lfg cause shit never goes as planned

sharp meteor
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my stuff my stuff i use i use etc

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yeah rm thrives on that

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overact and you're fucking donezo

cedar silo
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yeah

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commit 2 trinkets, a wall and fear in first go

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they just run for 20 secs and do same setup again cause dance+triple cheap shot is very hard

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i say this having never played rogue lol, so im most likely just salty and it isnt that easy

sharp meteor
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usually they gap it so can pre or use something

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especially disc ones

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can help to avoid double db too

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because that does make for clean setup

cedar silo
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yea

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the fact that fire mage exists how they do is incredible to me

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db-sheep or db-ring being possible is so weird to me

worldly cloud
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so 246 jaithys or the pvp weapon?

sharp meteor
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wat rank

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probably pvp wep

worldly cloud
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its just 233 in pvp right now

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versa def seems better lol

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over my rank 5 no stat jaithys but speed

sharp meteor
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13 ilev gonna be gooder i imagine

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but that means pvp wep overtakes it at 1200 or 1400

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either way they're both fine

worldly cloud
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okay ill just use the honor and upgrade

sharp meteor
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comp stomp big easy lazy honor gains rn

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decent for renown, too

remote hawk
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Is Fury viable in arena/pvp?

sharp meteor
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yes although i guess it depends on your goals and definition of viable

elder wigeon
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I wouldn't say r1 viable

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like if smexxin were to play fury, I don't know if he could get r1 in this meta

sharp meteor
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yeah r1 would be a rough go as fury

elder wigeon
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fury isn't terrible, but r1 is pretty damn hard right now and fury is just not cut from the same cloth arms is

sharp meteor
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yeah fury honestly seems okay it's just that arms is more or less better in every way

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maybe fury does more damage not sure haven't seen a good one

elder wigeon
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fury is more so like dh with damage that it's just cleave spam but without the durability of dh as ironic as that sounds

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after enraged regeneration, nothing's saving your ass

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RMP is just gonna dog you every game

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melee cleaves are just gonna one shot you

sharp meteor
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yep

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no parry into melee cleaves when their stuff coming up feels like being naked

elder wigeon
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you need d-stance and you simply don't have it, the heals do nothing if you're stunned

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also that, you need parry

sharp meteor
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setting up alt warr the other day and im like hm i think im dead in about 3 seconds

elder wigeon
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i already just flop against melee cleaves if they somehow force me to parry outside of their real go

sharp meteor
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retwarr just turn and ding me for 90% of my health in one gcd

elder wigeon
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yup

sharp meteor
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my healer always gets so upset and its like

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nah my b lmaooo

elder wigeon
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I had my ret buddy 50-0 me in one vanquisher's templar lmao

sharp meteor
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that sinking feeling where its like hmm am i in danger

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especially scary vs kiutty where i disarm warr duel cat or duel the warr out

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have to leap away INSTANTLY

elder wigeon
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after I parry i keep my tail between my legs because i know I can just die at any time lol

hard nacelle
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Fury is gonna be a rough go

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But it's fun if you don't get tilted

sharp meteor
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gonna grief team with either necro or night fae fury this season or next

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i want a dragon as all four covenants and there likely won't be another season deadge

elder wigeon
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I think fury that's bonded with a kyrian druid is less troll but still, could be arms lol

sharp meteor
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yeah night fae arms is probably what i'll do deadge

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maybe fury for bgs

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i wanna see how big of a warbringer hit i can get as necro fury

nimble jasper
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ret dmg is so stupid

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the fact that they go tauren because spec is able to 100-0 people in warstomp stun too

sharp meteor
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yeah microstun to maybe prevent a defensive is dece

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health and crit admage also solid tho

elder wigeon
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i mean what's the other choice? troll? blood elf?

sharp meteor
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yeah ick

elder wigeon
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shit choices

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tauren is better even if you couldn't kill in a warstomp

sharp meteor
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ye

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arcane torrent fell off a wee bit

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off gcd blanket silence was the dumbest shit

elder wigeon
#

it's just too long of a CD for a purge and 1 holy power

sharp meteor
#

yeah

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then zandalari is like rng crit buff

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or 5% movement speed wokege

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i suppose you also have the dino glider for ramp maps, if it works

elder wigeon
#

kekw

#

bubble into regeneratin

sharp meteor
#

DONT WORRY ILL HEAL MYSELF GUYS LOOK MY RACIAL IS FINALLY GETTING USE deadge

#

Honestly suckks that it's a bandage that breaks on a single dot tick

elder wigeon
#

just bubble hearth

safe pecan
#

Im so sad that they ruined death sentence

sharp meteor
#

rip cool situational talent that'll probably now be plagued with bugs

frosty delta
sharp meteor
#

added cd to the charge which is both clunky in terms of tracking and i imagine prone to bugging out like when you execute and it doesn't charge you, that'll almost certainly put the charge on cd

frosty delta
#

nooo....man that sucks

sharp meteor
#

buffing hunters in 2s deadge

frosty delta
#

Haven't pvp'd this patch, but last patch execute sniping in rbgs with death sentence was so much fun.

cedar silo
#

6 sec cd

frosty delta
sharp meteor
#

6 second cd on the execute charge itself

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charge unaffected, execute unaffected

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can just only proc the charge execute every few seconds

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so no perma charging vs locks etc

frosty delta
#

Ah ok, yea can see that being buggy

wheat jay
#

This talent has always been bugged as fuck

#

Chwrging when rooted

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Not charging and just hitting execute from range

sharp meteor
#

yep

wheat jay
#

And other stupid bugs

#

Fuk ds

#

Its like heartstop aura

#

Fun to use, not healthy for the game

sharp meteor
#

already didn't play it in most matchups though deadge

wheat jay
#

Then its whatever if it gets removed

sharp meteor
#

just gonna need extra alcohol when queuing 2s now

cedar silo
#

Are you ever playing maledict as warrior

sharp meteor
#

I haven't. I've thought about it a few times, but usually it's just insignia for throughput, badge for goes or battlemaster if there's a chance I could get clipped.

cedar silo
#

Hm, might get insignia i guess

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Just been holding badge for avatar

sharp meteor
#

i feel like it's generally on spear or conq, with ava being alittle more flexible for root breaks etc

thick reef
#

mal isnt that good

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for warr

terse otter
#

After 5 months, I did it boys

spice hornet
#

nice

elder wigeon
#

@terse otter you're playing with a buddy of mine on his alt shaman, haha

#

congrats

uneven turret
#

how bad is the death sentence nerf/

elder wigeon
#

it's pretty big

#

because unless they fix the bug, the talent will cause aneurysms

sharp meteor
#

I think that we're going to see an uptick in questions regarding how to deal with BM hunters in 2v2

elder wigeon
#

kekw

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reroll

sharp meteor
#

2s ticks me off I'd rather just play alt 3s or something

elder wigeon
#

warrior reverting to wheelchair status in 9.2

sharp meteor
#

i feel more inclined to play ds as necro, so wonder if that'll add another reason to play kyrian if glory ends up being super poop

spice hornet
#

death sentence nerf was massive bufff for bm hunter, ww monk, mages, rogues

#

kekw

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i dont even take the talent anymore

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just top start getting used to the depression

sharp meteor
#

yeah 2s not soundin fun

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and in 3s i generally run like duel or banner

#

and have been trying warbringer to stick spears on people that i don't wanna bolt

spice hornet
#

yeah it gets way more value in 2s

sharp meteor
#

ooga booga statcheck bracket

spice hornet
#

cant wait to not be able to touch feral/x double dps 2s since I can't touch any of them!

sharp meteor
#

as much as i dislike 2v2 i am curiously the least angry warrior most of my healers know which came as a surprise wokege

elder wigeon
#

casters mald 24/7

spice hornet
#

sometimes when i play my alts and get death sentence exe spammed i do get annoyed

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but idk

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its like i was ognna die anywauy

sharp meteor
#

i walk away to let them think they have a chance then charge execute back bedge

spice hornet
#

this nerf just reinforces that someone at blizz with power to make changes plays either druid, hutner, or mage.

sharp meteor
#

if the guy didn't quit i'd say it's the 2k mw after getting charge executed through his rop 3 times

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i know that i have gotten whispers over that

spice hornet
#

lmao

elder wigeon
#

I mean they're just turning SLand warrior into tbc war

#

insane crits that randomly just kill people and lowering mobility

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, tricky to find a balance.

#

Kite somebody for 25 seconds, they connect and you get split in half

lucid walrus
#

when's the last time they were subpar again?

sharp meteor
#

As opposed to full uptime that doesn't matter because bfa destro etc

#

Idk but mage in general is just their pet class in all forms of content

tranquil hemlock
#

Kyrian just gains more with the nerf

#

Unhinged+ kyrian leggo

elder wigeon
#

I'd prob run enduring honestly

#

unhinged is really fried

lucid walrus
#

unhinged is crack into cleaves. might be cool with DS being less mandatory to run short storm but idk

tranquil hemlock
#

Yeee I’m only 2.1 so it doesn’t matter what I play, can literally play anything to that rating lol

lucid walrus
#

sterge on that night fae fury grind

#

bro has more r1s than i have seasons played but it's almost motivating to try & push after seeing that

sharp meteor
#

I was kind of torn on unhinged. Like, it seems super nice for something like kitty where you get juiced and it hits super hard.

safe pecan
#

I feel like unhinged against clothes just goes super well

sharp meteor
#

I'll probably just craft everything and rotate around and see how it goes. Enduring is probably the conservative pick.

safe pecan
#

3 MS in a row is just so unexpected

sharp meteor
#

I really liked it s1 where a single ms was a higher % their health than it is now

safe pecan
#

I grinded 2.4 w unhinged but for fun but EB is better for sure

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, I used sephuz or unhinged.

safe pecan
#

Never used sephuz tbh

sharp meteor
#

Sephuz, Venthyr with Death Sentence every game bedge

#

s1 was fun

safe pecan
#

Do u guys have any tips as arms warrior rsham against rdrood monk

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Just feels like if they play perfectly I cant win

#

Following a druid that knows how to play just feels impossible and if I leave my shammy alone wthout trinket he is dead

sharp meteor
#

can swap rdruid if they int mobility but doing little swaps is rough because then they get frenzied value

#

monk can usually just pop away from you, disarm warbreaker, get thorns, etc

#

also accidentally took disarm into a monk and killed them because if it because i disarmed out of bolt when they were speared and they couldn't use fists to parry ratge

safe pecan
#

I tried doing swaps yeah but no way literally feels impossible

#

Disarm on every warbreaker and no way I trinket a disarm against a monk

sharp meteor
#

i mean swap to rdruid has to be a commit and ideally when their hots have fallen off, or they threw their load on their partner

safe pecan
#

Thorns just makes me go dstance everytime

sharp meteor
#

small swaps get frenzied off

#

and yeah can't hit into thorns unless u really swingin

safe pecan
#

Plus sometimes he gets random procs that just kick my ass and make me go dstance again

#

So the whole time when I dont have burst I pretty much sit dstance for a reason or another

#

And whenever I commit too much I get punished straight away

ruby harbor
#

Anyone know what this addon is

#

Enemy arena frames and shows some CDs under their name

warped warren
#

gladiusex

thick reef
#

yay so happy

elder wigeon
#

congrats bro

thick reef
#

ty bro

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had a bad start 1-5 droped to 2220 then dsic made us just sit healer

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to be fair our disc had high rating so i got a bunch of mmr per win

sharp meteor
#

MMR is weird and goes up bigly if you aren't queuing

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well, rather, regardless of whether you're queuing

#

also grats, now get those wins

#

oh and it was against the treadmill guy too ahahaha

nimble jasper
#

@sharp meteor my god i free q on my monk out of boredom with rando healer from lfg

#

somehow go 7-0, how tf do rdruids at 2.2 play like they're 1600

#

rofl

sharp meteor
#

rdruid 2s is like the most boosted spec i swear to god

#

sit a mile back while a hunter or warrior 1v2s

#

and yet so many choose to int for no reason

nimble jasper
#

also watched an mw

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port 2 yds

#

and a rogue mage that could have won if the rogue didnt just rando come out for no reason when i had a full go ready and man had no trink

thick reef
#

thx self yeah i hope it goes good

nimble jasper
#

"i gotta do a scuffed go theres no way this rdruid dies here"

#

guy dies

sharp meteor
#

there's also this cool thing u can do vs mw which is push in on them

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especially if it's pushing them into their port

#

and it just ruins their mind

#

because they're screaming at their dps to pull you the fuck away from them

nimble jasper
#

his ret kind of pushed into the mw's port

#

i expected the guy to move it

sharp meteor
#

and yeah sometimes a scuffed go is actually a decent go because they think you can't do a go because it'll be scuffed

#

🧠

spice hornet
#

zez is gigatoxic

sharp meteor
#

thinkin about when i queued into the mies and bodying his rogue in the first minute then my healer links his stream and he's screaming about how his rogue is a dirty unwashed peasant

#

something about hpal players hmm

lucid walrus
#

the miestro is a creature

#

bushy's a multi-r1 too but that man is fried

sharp meteor
#

queued into him the other day playing destro/ww

#

apparently his twitch got nuked or something

lucid walrus
#

yea it did

sharp meteor
#

shambles

lucid walrus
#

streams on yt i think, if at all

#

or some 3rd party. unsure

spice hornet
#

why does that druid conduit not have an ICD

#

the one where they keep movement speed for 5 sec after ocming out of form

trail coyote
#

Why should it

#

It’d be dead if it did

spice hornet
#

rdruid can maintain insane uptime on it running around at like 150%+ speed lol

#

for a majority of the match

#

u really see nothinhg wrong with that conduit?

sharp meteor
#

idk shaman one is a minute and druid no cd

#

because blizzards pet class

spice hornet
#

ye exactly

#

its like wtf

#

on my sham

#

every 2s match is just rogue/rdruid past like 2400

#

would rather fight bm hunter/non-rdruid healer

quasi lotus
#

Playing druid and never going closer than max range heals is like an insta 300 cr injection so

#

I'm not surprised

elder wigeon
#

nah good rdruids go feral aff and play in your face with rake stuns and make you mald

quasi lotus
#

Yeah but bad druids doing the same thing just die

#

So you can afk heal for free or

#

And not have to be good til you get high enough

elder wigeon
#

you gotta know when you can do it

#

druids like dinoe, flop, kubzy, they all do it at perfect times

nimble jasper
#

for every one kubzy

#

theres 100 idiots who play in the open and die

quasi lotus
#

You can eliminate the idiot factor and claim free rating by just standing max thats the point

#

Obviously if you wanna be at the top you gotta learn to abuse all your buttons

spice hornet
#

is it legit even possible to beat outlaw/rdruid as disc warr

#

its impossible

#

the evasion cd, kidney cd, dismantle, are all so low

#

and cant touch rdruid ofc

#

vanish is on lower cd too

nimble jasper
#

and did this guard aff by the pillar

spice hornet
quasi lotus
#

Every "counter" to rdru in 2s involves the druid misplaying

spice hornet
#

facts

#

📠

elder wigeon
#

you need your disc to purge on your goes too

spice hornet
#

yes thats what we did

#

good now

#

still unfun

elder wigeon
#

2's isn't fun

#

that's your first mistake

spice hornet
#

kekw

#

if rdruid wasnt the way it was

#

2s would be legit 50% better

main copper
#

Last season was much better, Druids were crap Holy Paladins were practically double dps comps.

elder wigeon
#

last season until 9.0.5

#

9.0.5 made rdruids actually gross and they just keep getting buffed

lucid walrus
#

so sad hpals' blue bar moves now

main copper
#

Imagine spending mana 😩

nimble jasper
#

idk

#

i hate both hpal and druid meta

floral ingot
#

But pve exists

#

So here is +15% dps/hps on every ability for the birthday boys

elder wigeon
#

nah rdruids just keep getting buffed over and over lmao

#

they can't stop buffing them

#

giving them a cracked tier set and more buffs as well as how broken double lego is for druids

nimble jasper
#

Personally I like priest metas

nimble jasper
#

usually not as damp

floral ingot
#

Rdruid be like

nimble jasper
#

rdruid will always be the 2s god spec unless

#

they're undertuned

floral ingot
#

True

#

At least outlaw gets some time under the sun

#

That’s a quite a rare sight

quasi lotus
#

Like in 9.0 where if you pressed any cd they struggled to heal through it

nimble jasper
#

fun thing about bad rdruids

#

you do dam to both of them at once and they dont know what to do

floral ingot
#

Press cen ward on one target->Another target gets damaged->Cen ward is on cd->Brain.exe stopped working

plain wing
#

Should you never hit the target that has cen ward

#

Or should you never make rdruid prio target …..

floral ingot
#

You have to swap on cen ward

#

Ideally

#

Full hots+cen ward= the target is gonna outlive the planet

plain wing
#

What hots do I look out for? Just thinking of which ones I need to add to my nameplate add on

scarlet barn
#

Cenarion ward

#

Is the most impactfull but the rest they will have on themselves for majority of time

sharp meteor
#

swappin off cen and barks is dece

#

is what makes 2s annoying

#

cos u often can't

#

:))

elder wigeon
#

basically if an rdruid cen wards a target, and you swap, then they can't afford to swiftmend the cen ward because then they're gonna struggle to heal the target you're swapping to, and if they don't swiftmend the cen ward, it'll fall off after several seconds and you can swap back and there's no cen ward to extend

#

so often times, they're forced to extend the cen ward anyways and use the soul of the forest rejuv to heal the swap target, which is why it's extremely important to purge on swaps or to purge the soul of the forest proc

sharp meteor
warped warren
warped warren
sharp meteor
#

yep in there now deadge am full rival, pushed duelist real quick and now have 2 tiers up upgrades

sand shadow
#

Too bad Comp Stomp, despite being the most efficient other than stomping low MMR RBGs, is still pretty terrible

main copper
#

Imagine there being low mmr rbg's in LFR

#

Suffers in Alliance.

sand shadow
#

I actually timed it and I average ~7mins per Comp Stomp win, so ~3,840 Honor/Hour and 3.9 Hours per Honor Cap

#

So 3.9 hours is not even enough to upgrade my 2H to full, since that's fucking 17,450 Honor

warped warren
#

7?

sand shadow
#

and that's just one item

#

Yeah, 7 mins if you include waiting for everyone to accept

#

1.5mins for the game to start, etc

warped warren
#

ye i guess

sand shadow
#

The win of the game itself is obviously not 7min

main copper
#

Got my sword in the chest last week thankfully, but still have to buy everything else. Yolo'd rival with a guildie, but thankfully PvE gear seems to still carry in the low brackets.

sharp meteor
#

upgrading 550 conq worth of gear per week isn't unreasonable during the initial thing as you're kind of timegated on it

#

whereas setting up alt up late and upgrading all the slots at once is like aaaaaaaaaaa

main copper
#

Aye that is my pain atm, not to bothered though I'm just having fun with games. Usually I'm a Paladin but rerolled to give Battleshout to the raid in December as our Warriors all went awol.

#

I will just get what I can until 9.2

nimble jasper
#

someone at blizz hq

#

looked at honor upgrade costs

#

and said "this is ok"

sharp meteor
#

already have mastery wep upgraded to rival i so just sticking with that i suppose 💀

#

like it honestly is fine when you're gated on conq gains, right

#

but coming in and being able to grind all the gear

main copper
#

I'm not sure the conquest weapon is better than my Jaithys at Rival I, may be at Rival II or Duelist.

sharp meteor
#

but then grinding another 100 hours of bgs to ugprade it

#

is a bit much

sand shadow
#

fully upgrading my 220 conq box gear on my alt warr to Rank8 is like... 4 honor caps or sth

sharp meteor
#

yep

nimble jasper
#

blizz big brain strat

sharp meteor
#

playing alt warr its like

nimble jasper
#

you'll have enough conquest

sharp meteor
#

10 games, afk comp stomp or random bg for upgrades

nimble jasper
#

to make another alt with boxes

#

after that

sharp meteor
#

reach bis duelist with like 70 games of arena played

#

and like 100 bgs

#

💀

main copper
#

You 3v3?

sand shadow
#

it's a fucking pain is what it is

main copper
#

2v2 is giving me a dribble on conquest, I only got 2 rings and trinkets in 40 games

sand shadow
#

even w/ freaking comp stomp

sharp meteor
#

just so long

sand shadow
#

4 honor caps would be around 16hrs of comp stomp grind

nimble jasper
#

2v2

nimble jasper
#

q into sv/rdruid

main copper
#

BM/rdruid is my pain, only ran into them twice though so whatever.

nimble jasper
#

bm rdruid isnt as bad

#

tbh

main copper
#

Won all games against SV but only at Rival so they are probs bad

sand shadow
#

I lose to BM/Rdruid w/o them getting a single trap, literally.

main copper
#

Yer same

sharp meteor
#

yep trapping is inting

#

max range pve owo

main copper
#

I may be bad though

sand shadow
#

just a 6-7 min game of them shooting me w/ the Venthyr leggo and smashing me

main copper
#

I reflected most the traps in one game but just could not connect

sand shadow
#

its games like those where I miss Condemn the most ❤️

sharp meteor
#

its like bm is in this digusting spot where it just does so much damage that all they have to do is play safe and they win on mana

#

don't int for trap

#

pve dam

nimble jasper
#

i heard outlaw kinda farms bm teams

#

but

main copper
#

I'm really liking Kyrian tbh, when the guy does not bug out the grip that is.

sharp meteor
#

deadge cringe fucking spec

nimble jasper
#

i havent played that char in like 4 months lmao

sharp meteor
#

yeah outlaw has 0 cd evasion because most bms dont know how the conduit works

#

so frenzied pets reset its cd

#

and pirate just eats their face

sand shadow
#

yep

#

Outlaw is a fucking tank to physical dmg rn

nimble jasper
#

assa rsham week 1 of the seas into bm hpriest was comedy

#

q'ed into 5 diff teams

#

each one hunter gets knocked out by dwayne in opener

#

or totem

sharp meteor
#

yeah everybody know it's like hey ill help any alt you have to duelist in no time but pls don't ask me to push 2400+ 2s deadge

nimble jasper
#

lmao true

#

i just got bored early and free q'ed with some rando priest from lfg

#

said to myself stop when we lost

#

go 7-0

#

then got bored

#

fucking trolling ass rdruid teams

#

standing in mid out of form with no hots

sharp meteor
#

blessed inting rdruids 🙏

#

no way to lose and they hop in with no hots or trinkets to dr bash somebody 👌

nimble jasper
#

also rogue mage could have literally killed me cuz i trinket opener but rogue decides to rando unstealth and not do anything to get sweeped w/o his trinket

sand shadow
#

and then tranq your banner/avatar/wb

#

and laugh in your face

sharp meteor
#

have a general idea of how to beat boomie/dh usually by just murdering rsham

#

now queuing into ones running rdruid

#

💀 aaa

sand shadow
#

trust me, boomie/warr/rdruid is even worse Pepexecute

sharp meteor
#

Certainly feels bad.

#

Also queued into a double ww hpal and they'd each do a go on a different one of us and one got blessing of summers

#

it's like random affix comps fk

nimble jasper
#

i love dh players who blur off cd

#

feel like that aspect is worse than bfa somehow

sharp meteor
#

partner was setting up his dh and he'd be like 10% scoming out of a stun then popped his demon and ate the soul for a full heal

#

and blur really does feel unreasonably strong

nimble jasper
#

psure its bugged

#

like how dhs can just glimpse out of disarms

sharp meteor
#

now THAT really feels like an oversight

elder wigeon
#

yeah you 100% can glimpse out of a disarm, disgust

sharp meteor
#

also thankful that scripts don't seem to be a thing so much any more because jesus fuck imagine every shitty weeb dh point blank glimpsing every cc with travel time deadge

floral ingot
#

4 caps is 60k honor

#

You need twice as much to upgrade the whole set

#

Even more if you’re fury

safe pecan
#

Just a question here

#

Why is mistweavers monk fucking disarm ranged

#

Like how the fuck does kung fu panda take my sword if he is 15 yards away

lucid walrus
#

rope

elder wigeon
#

the master of arms knows less than monk about disarming someone

#

so we have to take it with our hands not a thrown object

safe pecan
#

Thats why its called grapple

#

Nice one blizzard nice one

floral ingot
#

No F’s given

safe pecan
#

Ah man voice crack*

floral ingot
safe pecan
#

Anyone has written some notes about double leggo as arms for pvp yet ? If yes where can I find it

cedar silo
#

only really big thing is EM+EB for arms as kyrian

#

rest is kinda whatever since covenant leggos arent that useful in pvp scenarios for warriors outside of Elysian Might

scarlet barn
#

EM + mirror will be nice

#

And EM + leaper

#

👀

#

I guess em + signet will be quite bursty too

cedar silo
#

EM+Unhinged as well

#

but play pattern stays more or less the same is my guess

#

really not looking forward to the amount of legendaries you possibly have to make for optimal setups between pve and pvp lol

tender oxide
#

im hardstuck at 3's 1700 mark

#

literally cannot get to 1800

#

every team i'm queuing into is 60k HP +

#

its just win loss loss win loss loss over and over

cedar silo
#

You can win at that point just by PvE'ing people down and stopping setups

#

Biggest issue is usually over using stuff and casters/healers having no idea how to position

tender oxide
#

our ret got 100-0 before the hunter even came out of camo

#

38% versa

#

its the matter that you aint queuing into 1700 teams, your queuing into 2400 teams on alts

cedar silo
#

I mean those games you just chalk up to getting shadowlands'd

tender oxide
#

Ye

#

i do ^^

#

but frustrating when all i want is elite set and im 80 rating away

cedar silo
#

Vast majority of your games will not be against 2.4k teams on alts. That is just being delusional honestly

tender oxide
#

it FEELS that way

cedar silo
#

With enough games, you will climb, even with a negative win/loss ratio

tender oxide
#

at 200 rn

#

started saturday

main copper
#

Think the answer there is what is going wrong with your ret to get 100-0'd with only one dps on him

tender oxide
#

necro marks burst is broken

#

he bubbled but priest MD immedaitely

#

Freedomed binding*

main copper
#

Did you intervene him?

tender oxide
#

didn't even have a chance

main copper
#

I mean you know it is coming

#

Goals to prevent damage not stick a damage reduction after the damage

#

Same reason I usually spell reflect after charging a Paladin, it is just the 1800mmr bracket 9/10 the dudes going to just press HoJ like a smooth brain.

fierce elm
#

Just position where MM is relatively close to yall

tender oxide
fierce elm
#

Not really

#

You can position real well to avoid most of it

#

Turtle a pillar then run past the corner when he opens

#

Then he moves to you and boom necro immune gone

tender oxide
#

aimed shot beams though pillars /corners even if you LoS it

fierce elm
#

stormbolt

tender oxide
#

Ye true

fierce elm
#

You can live 1 aimed shot lmao

#

its all about surviving the first burst

#

and you negate that by LOS until immunity gone

#

then you can disarm/sb

tender oxide
#

ye for sure trying that

warped warren
warped warren
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unlucl

steel cloak
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Is fury getting any buffs in the up coming patch 9.2?

grand scaffold
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the set bonus is nutty

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aside from that

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nope

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raging blow got 15% dmg buff with 2 pieces

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and with 4 pieces raging blow got 20% chance to proc recklessness for 4 seconds

raw summit
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Still trash in pvp

scarlet barn
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🙂 🙂

raw summit
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@scarlet barn hey do you wanna be my 2.9 healer friend peepoHappyFisher

scarlet barn
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Anytime

raw summit
sharp meteor
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venth mm hard to deal with because random procs chunk like old ele

floral ingot
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Not likely to happen in every game

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But still, the possibility is there, press everything when hunters nameplate appears

sharp meteor
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yeah spookiest thing i have queued into was the double ww hpal who ran summers

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i even peeled both their goes (on each partner) but one threw their trinket out deadge '

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no trust deadge

floral ingot
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Blessing of summer is so cheesy

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Seen a bunch of ppl boosting with it

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Prot pala+ arms warr+ ww/nf boomie

sharp meteor
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yeah good for boosting because u end game before u run out of cds or w/e they just die in opener or second dr

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owO -domes u with a 20k hammer of wrath-

floral ingot
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Go out of the gate, press bubble+ summer onto ww/boomie
The latter uses every movement ability possible to get to the enemy
Press convoke/bonedust brew while warrior charges shatter

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Boom oneshot the whole team

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If they press everything you forfeit and go next

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So cheesy cause it happens so fast and low Cr ppl are not willing to press every def cd possible 3 seconds after the game started

sharp meteor
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usually working outside a series or just catching people off guard in general is usually how cheese stuff works

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hey why did assa rogue vanish opener

fierce elm
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Kek

sharp meteor
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why'd i lose 55% of my health two globals in a row

warped warren
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what

sharp meteor
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i swear there's always some assa meme build

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double ww hpal with summer is still the most oddball thing I've seen recently

timid sand
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Hello friends, I usually dont venture down to these parts, but my friend and I are doing PVP for the first time trying to get the mog (1800) as Enhancement and Arms..... we are close, but we have no idea how to deal with a DH assblasting us. Any advice 🙂

sharp meteor
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disrupt their eye beam goes

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like interrupt the beam itself then stun/disarm the demonic

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guts their throughput

timid sand
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Also, what makes Necrolord good and should I consider it over Kyrian? (I have the covenants already leveled from PVE)

raw summit
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necro slaps during banner and fleshcraft is pretty big

sharp meteor
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makes u big and fast

raw summit
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also the mastery can be great for your partner

sharp meteor
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make teammate big and fast

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also nice for a lot of healers as that mastery gives them big oomph to counterpressure enemy go

worn lagoon
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From what I learned

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If you play with ret play Necro

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Otherwise I think cba

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but im only a 2.170 scrub 😄

sharp meteor
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i think that kyrian with necro ret is good

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i usually just play terb tho so

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addled brain

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need to try retwarr again

mild pier
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That psyduck profile pic has me dying lmao

sharp meteor
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some kind chap in the dh discord made me aware of a new 3d one so I finally have more options

jaunty furnace
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now how will people sell Carries for pvp lol

fierce elm
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the same way it used to be

lucid walrus
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independently

sharp meteor
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same way they used to

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not under a giant banner of a cringe parasitic community

plain wing
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trade chat about to be even more spammy

fierce elm
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who looks at trade chat

warped warren
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whats a treyd chat

wheat jay
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people wanting to buy boosts

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ez

sharp meteor
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have had trade chat disabled on everything for ages bedge maybe the boomers use it as their own little form of social media

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thinkin about last season when so many pve players wanted help in pvp that they'd sometimes just approach you and you didn't need to advertise

thick reef
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thz guys appracite u guys :d

plain wing
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trade chat is mostly used for advertising boosts

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its about to get worse

sharp meteor
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whomst've cares

warped warren
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its over

sharp meteor
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no point being in trade if u aren't buying or selling

jaunty furnace
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Tbh banning the communities doesn’t really change anything. Not sure why they did it

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Everything is still going to get spammed just won’t have a community name tied to it

jaunty furnace
plain wing
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Yea I don’t really get it either

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I guess they want all transactions to go thru the game for whatever reason

main copper
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People wanted the sense of community back to their servers

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Blizzard tells the boosting communities to operate on a server level only.

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Profit!

lucid walrus
sharp meteor
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they disliked everything being centralized yeah

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goin back to the olde days of contacting the good guilds on your server for stuff

sharp meteor
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cross faction arena hm

spice hornet
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ohh yessssss

scarlet barn
sharp meteor
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ahh yesssss

wet scarab
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There needs to be a tinder sort of app for alliance people who want horde friends for arena

shy aurora
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Im gonna say something

plain wing
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got back up to 2034 - finding it stressful to queue as i dont wanna drop rating this close to 2100... but also can't climb without queueing XD

shy aurora
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God damn i miss playing warr as gnome

tranquil hemlock
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escape artist

wicked magnet
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right? like you really take escape artist for granted until you try to play without it

sharp meteor
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already have 2 root breaks

nimble jasper
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orc still gonna be better

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lol

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probs for everything besides rogue/druid

sharp meteor
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horde priests get access to good races

nimble jasper
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and ig druid/paladin

sharp meteor
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druids get meld

wicked magnet
nimble jasper
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does unhinged work at real ratings

sharp meteor
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just get ur pet kitty to roar u out of stuff

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i think unhinged kitty is good

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otherwise ehh?

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also what even is a real rating any more

nimble jasper
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idk could have sworn unhinged was a giant meme

wicked magnet
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no my vesper lego is a giant meme ^_^