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vs ranged
if you do ring around the rosie with pillars sometimes you can get them
to use shit stupidly
from being mad
and punish it
the best bm is when i play rogue tho in 1v1s
and just come out to /dance with someone

makes people so mad
what is there to tunnel on?
just not sure what you're specifically paying attn to
killing hunter pets
is also nice
if you stop rez
alot of hunters spend forever trying to get it back
ok
im trying not to tilt so much
prolly working on that more than actually playing well
mind if you look over a game of my mich?
rough hunter disc game
obviously was in the open too muich but yea
but yea still tilted beyond belief....
I mean besides not pressing hamstring enough
you channel a full bladestorm on a priest that has PS running+eating hunter dmg during trueshot+PI
fears were kind of useless
Need to parry before you get unloaded on
Could have put up sweeping strikes to damage the pet maybe their team is stupid and doesnt top it/spends globals topping it.
Kind of random warbreakers w/o pressure going
get your sharpen off when they're already low
you can use sharpen two ways, to help get a target into execute range or to sharpen the heals when a target is low
cry
cope, seethe and/or mald
duel ret disarm warbreaker and can vene aggressively to cover your partners doomwinds/ascend
i feel like retwarr should win but sometimes they don't 
Ok cool, appreciate the tip
just a random lfg group but i'm trying to learn the pov
felt hard af vs ret war other than that was pretty fun
luckily avoided wps
was only like 2.1 mmr
I comp stomped for like 4 hours today
pls send help
ya i need to do more of that on alt warrs for upgrades ughghh
i will stomp every comp
I went from like 235 to 251
think turbo will be better in 9.2?
my enh and his enh buddies don't seem hopeful
we'll see though
retwarr probably going to be even better aaaa cringeeeee
I need to upgrade 4 more pieces sadge
i can't tell if just bodying the rsham in dhboom is the play or we're just getting lucky
honestly think its the play
it's like enh can cover mooner peels aside from incap
so it's just chaos nova that's spooky
and can cycle stuff for that to try to mitigate their go
yeah so gooing rsham seems to put boomie on defensive lowing their dam, then u can cover goes with grounds/shears and wahtnot
have had some success just zug dh in open
and rsham doesn't have much themselves to go through
exactly
dhh too tanky with blur
unless u gib in a stun
and too easy to throw that off with a single clone pool knock incap etc
agree
was wondering, how many of you especially at the higher ratings use 1h+shield to use shield block when say rogue is tunneling you. or you rely on dbts+def stance?
Very rarely it is worth because you dont really do dam and also it costs you gcd but it can completely disable go from melee on you
Yeah that's my thought, while you don't do dmg in this case, when you're being tunneled in a stun, you don't do dmg anyway.. or say a hunter is tunneling you and you know you cant connect..
had a case yday where mm just rekt me thru a pillar
hmmm can any one tell me what slot i should buy [Enduring Blow] in 9.2
and dbts+def was not enough.. sure he scored lucky crits but still
With set pieces it would be belt right ?
Is good are arms warriors in 2s compared to other melee? Are they till s tier?
How good*
yes
I played my monk til 2,2 k but all i wanna do know is play my warr instead of pushing further 😅
I wouldn't say arms is the best but it is very good
outlaw and survival are better at the absolute highest level
no one does this ever, it's too clunky and doesn't do enough for you, it's better to just use your two hander, continue to do your normal rotation and use ignore pain
guys
is there a way to put the elem pet icons on the shortcut bar ?
cant find a way
sorry its not warrior related but well
I think there's an addon called moveanything
hmm maybe i can try
u can move default ui parts with it
You can also do that
ye just use /Cast :)
./cast hardened skin
:D
it worked thanks ! brilliant idea
i only have to bind hardened and stun if i remember well
At what point does ilvl take priority over vers? I have some 226 gear w/ vers and 252 w/o vers.
it's important you have >=30% vers, but ilvl is really important too
weapon, main pieces, yeah
I macro'd it with summon earth ele
So you can press it once to summon, and again if you want the wall
hmm yes
What covenant are all the cool kids playing for arena
No covenant
Hey, I cant find a way around that but how can some guys make 30k+ exec as necro ? just playing with full crit gear or just lucky ?
I'm playing almost full haste necro an my biggest exec was like 20k so dunno if i'am just bad or smth x)
Luck
and max imvl
ilvl*
You gotta have the luck to crit during cooldowns
with an execute proc
or full rage execute
okay okay, i'm not fully geared so that might be it too
i mean I've hit some clean 40K executes
Need to have sinful revelation on target as well
I think the highest I had was 42k or something
Can be even higher with rend
When you dont crit tho 
biggest crit i had was 28k on rogue, with 233ilvl pvp gear during banner + trinket + orc racial..
warrior hunter works ?
hello friends, a noob question overhere, should I use Rend for pvp?
or delete this?
I don't play arms but I've seen rend used effectively past duelist
There's a better answer out there
guys for a necrolord with high crit which legendary should i use?
you get by playing massacre only. you can play rend as haste necro into high armor targets, or classes you easily can stick to and have uptime on
Depends on your comp?
MW monk can use revival after soul rot and completely shut down aff locks damage
Priests can do the same with fade+ MD
Shadow play felt pretty easy as war/sp/druid and MW turbo for me personally
Do big dam, respect their cds, don’t overextend if you can’t kill
Pillar is your friend if things go south
Rend feels good into ret war as war sp
Other than that you can’t go wrong with massacre
best 3v3 comp for kyrian ?
Warr/ret/+
is comp stomp actually any good for honor ffarm
Worst comp ever, just ask @wheat jay for validation
dogshit comp
thx lord
thx lord too
miss one trap and lose

it hurts to see artji and kargish play perfectly into just about any comp and lose to mana
ye

Barley see them now they all affliction lol
rend feels good into mirrors in 2s where you just pve into each other for ten minutes
can also feel nice into stuff like retwarr as long as u don't bungle rage management
its really tilting dropping 100 rating while playing with multiglads and having no one to blame but yourself
big sadge
No pressure no diamonds
Multiglads make mistakes too
Yeah, but they identify them in a way i often dont
like how getting faked on poly stop has compounding effects down the line
I have no clue how to play into aff lock and mage teams
Just takes practice, you got this
Watch vods, play games
The only thing separating you is experience
Im more of a play games kinda guy, but set my goal at glad this season and mount if im actually liking pvp
Going down to 2140 from 2270 is rough lol
kinda just need to vent
i know what to improve on mostly
Last time i pvp'ed just to pvp was in MoP where i never got past 1900 i think
Got 1800 last 2 seasons for gear in PvE
Road to 2100 was pretty easy and got there within 160 games i think
hmm that's fine
if u think u tilting then take break and play alt or something
umm rdruid mw and rsham all nice into different things
yea for sure
mw nice offensively because they can roll in for incap on healer during ur first go
there's also the peaceweave which is super nice
wps feels super good on necro warr with mw
versus kyrian with rdruid
spriest just gets their skull caved in
not really tilting, just playing bad. Made sure to stop before i tilted 
yeah you'll go up and down just how it goes
queue into bad matchup 5 times in a row and it's like ajhdsjkasda
haste or crit for necro?
yes
i think in general it's like haste/enduring, but crit with unhinged or just in general with kitty (kyrian feral) seems super good
there's also that memer playing full mastery with signet
but yeah i think it varies by comp AND matchup
i just went full haste
i still sit here and wonder why thye nerf the pet rez from 4 sec to 3 sec
sweet thats what im doing too
because if pet dies then hunter is in shambles
thats their only weakness
ehh hunter takes a lot of dam they just mobile
have had a decent amount of games where we gib pet either by mistake or it gets cleaved hard enough that i can just turn and tap it
it's not every game and if good players know you're going pet then they just run double pet talent
eh taht awc hunter dilly has said if you let your pet die as a hunter its 100% ur fault
i queued into him and killed his pet actually lol
although he was playing with lowbie friends
it can happen sometimes
chain harvest and mortal combo
ding
pet is kill
so generally u maintain mend pet, which is a nice buffer, then there's exhil as a bit of an oh shit if it gets chunked as its a full health heal, then you have your healer swap heals to it if it gets tunneled
and if enemy teams 100% commit to pet then u just play double pet talent
that's why he says pet never rly the issue
because if the matchup ever comes down to whether or not the pet can stay alive then u as the hunter should win, but in one-off games the pets can very easily get dinged as hunters often aren't paying much attention to their position/health, especially under pressure
Just got 2.4 today, finally found good teammates
You can do it, focus on your plays
Stay cool and grind
47 more wins to lfg tho :/
Struggling with double ranged with an Rsham, anyone have any ideas? Double hunter is hard, same with lock/hunter
just queued into surv/aff then he respecced mm/aff that was interesting
ended up gibbing aff lock first game in the second spear and second game was like 10 minutes before i ran down the mm
poor lock didn't know that my druid vortexed him just prior so he could've ported out of the spear lmao
yeah lfg is the real boss
found a paladin and a pretty good priest with whom i try to coordinate games
Good for you, I haven’t found a single ret that plays well
Feels like they all zug zuged their way up and they belong on 2k max
I play with a priest/mage/boomie and they actually show that they know how to play the game
there's a certain unwillingness to wog themselves, let alone teammates
then ofc not using freedom/sanc/sac etc
its like pls
Meanwhile rets just go in, die without bubble, never use sanc, 0 wogs
must be all the havoc players who are now back on havoc
Played with a glad havoc, he died 2 games in a row cause he didn’t reverse soul rot and got deathbolted
this ret isnt flabbergasting by any means, but he uses bubble 7/10 games xd
Lmao
i swear

nobody has a clue how to play vs aff lock
Yeah, imma just react to a 0.6 second cast from the other side of fucking shit mugambala
fuck that arena
"dispel when u see soul rot"
i swear 90% of healers have ptsd of when u died dispelling ua and refuse to do it again
when that's what ur meant to do, cycle dispels and kicks
what i usually say before every match
is it wrong just throwing kicks on ua into lock
soul rot + dark glare = wall/dispel ASAP
no ur meant to stop ua
and dispel ua
to keep their pressure down
Ye, lock is useless if there is no ua on target
So when you face shadowplay
u dispel ua when there's no danger of followup
other way around usually imo
lock too mobile especially with priest
they have port, gate out of spear, priest grip (they can grip bolt which scuffs spear)
then the 1 minute full heatlth shield that can be used while stunned and kicked because its physical
imo splay is be care on soul but generally just go priest as they can't run
and swapping off priest means they get their cds back to have to tunnel priest
imo splay if they play well beats u most times but a lot of them aren't good so
like if they don't improperly cycle stuff
I just, especially vs shadowplay, get lost in who to hit and what to stop
How come a class went from most immobile to most mobile in one expac
That’s hilarious
better to be mobile than a ball of stats
actually coordinating the kiting/mobility aspect is good
whereas destro afking in the middle of the arena and only dying in dampening isnt
That’s true, it’s just wild to me how the class pulled a 180 in terms of class design in one expac time
the pact buff was funny yeah
I swear, it’s easier to catch a mage
actually did help so much
but i dont actually know if they use that when pact exists
a loit of warlocks refused to play it because they thought they needed the nerfed demon skin
also its demon skin not demon armor on that row
which was historically the pick but got nerfed then pact buffed in volatile meta
but yeah mog spriest and if kyrian i think spear is to bait their fade then send go
never spear then immeidately bolt because they fade after spear 99% of the time
Just play necro
they're both quite nice
Did a 44k execute on my last game to 2.4
just depends on what u queuing and who u queuing into
Was nice
NEW DUCK JUST DROPPED
Kinda feel like you are trolling if you arent playing necro as melee cleave
i like it 
lol idk about that
Nah, kyrian feels nice with enh/kyrian ret
kyrian turb feels better into most stuff
kyrian also feels good with ret
idk just depends
tsg also good with spear
giving ret big dam on his go and then having your own afterwards feels so good though
yeah but spearing people so they can't move owo
guess i just gotta play more kyrian
plus it's more often whereas BIG wings go is like
all-in
not that it's bad it's just kind of different
yeah i need to queue more retwarr my sham is on the edge
its like better/easier turbo except worse into like rm
and probably shadow
Having 1 mins line up is really nice
Doomwinds/seraphim+toll with spear is mega Poggers
i don't mind queuing into rm any more
might be because not high enough to queue into the actually good ones tho
imagine queueing into whaaaz riku rm 
I mean they fuck up go's, but im not at a point where i have any clue whatsoever what to commit when
does whaaz have a us acc because i think i queued into his dh
When you’re on stun dr just pop everything and kill them
odds are he has
In offensive stance
but im not sure
god dh/boom is weird it's like u need to get blur out of the way before u send anything on dh or they just blur out and u get no value
then mage just rings, novas, blinks, polies half, alter, block etc etc
spear onto rsham then cleaving dh so hard that he blurs then swapping bolt to him next go feels decent
They do, but even 2.5 rm don’t use their tools correctly
it feels like its just a "mangitude of wrong usage"
which i feel like is without much effort is always in the rm favor
i feel like with terb it's not to bad to cycle stuff
not looking forward to retwarr though
reaching the point where rm has to do fake goes to try to bait something because they can't actually just do a go when druid is in stealth
very rarely i feel like i lose in the opening go, but then they just run for 25 secs and do the easiest setup again
yeah need to have a plan as to who uses their stuff
yeah which is fucking rough in lfg cause shit never goes as planned
my stuff my stuff i use i use etc
yeah rm thrives on that
overact and you're fucking donezo
yeah
commit 2 trinkets, a wall and fear in first go
they just run for 20 secs and do same setup again cause dance+triple cheap shot is very hard
i say this having never played rogue lol, so im most likely just salty and it isnt that easy
usually they gap it so can pre or use something
especially disc ones
can help to avoid double db too
because that does make for clean setup
yea
the fact that fire mage exists how they do is incredible to me
db-sheep or db-ring being possible is so weird to me
so 246 jaithys or the pvp weapon?
its just 233 in pvp right now
versa def seems better lol
over my rank 5 no stat jaithys but speed
13 ilev gonna be gooder i imagine
but that means pvp wep overtakes it at 1200 or 1400
either way they're both fine
okay ill just use the honor and upgrade
Is Fury viable in arena/pvp?
yes although i guess it depends on your goals and definition of viable
I wouldn't say r1 viable
like if smexxin were to play fury, I don't know if he could get r1 in this meta
yeah r1 would be a rough go as fury
fury isn't terrible, but r1 is pretty damn hard right now and fury is just not cut from the same cloth arms is
yeah fury honestly seems okay it's just that arms is more or less better in every way
maybe fury does more damage not sure haven't seen a good one
fury is more so like dh with damage that it's just cleave spam but without the durability of dh as ironic as that sounds
after enraged regeneration, nothing's saving your ass
RMP is just gonna dog you every game
melee cleaves are just gonna one shot you
you need d-stance and you simply don't have it, the heals do nothing if you're stunned
also that, you need parry
setting up alt warr the other day and im like hm i think im dead in about 3 seconds
i already just flop against melee cleaves if they somehow force me to parry outside of their real go
retwarr just turn and ding me for 90% of my health in one gcd
yup
I had my ret buddy 50-0 me in one vanquisher's templar lmao
that sinking feeling where its like hmm am i in danger
especially scary vs kiutty where i disarm warr duel cat or duel the warr out
have to leap away INSTANTLY
after I parry i keep my tail between my legs because i know I can just die at any time lol
gonna grief team with either necro or night fae fury this season or next
i want a dragon as all four covenants and there likely won't be another season 
I think fury that's bonded with a kyrian druid is less troll but still, could be arms lol
yeah night fae arms is probably what i'll do 
maybe fury for bgs
i wanna see how big of a warbringer hit i can get as necro fury
ret dmg is so stupid
the fact that they go tauren because spec is able to 100-0 people in warstomp stun too
yeah microstun to maybe prevent a defensive is dece
health and crit admage also solid tho
i mean what's the other choice? troll? blood elf?
yeah ick
ye
arcane torrent fell off a wee bit
off gcd blanket silence was the dumbest shit
it's just too long of a CD for a purge and 1 holy power
yeah
then zandalari is like rng crit buff
or 5% movement speed 
i suppose you also have the dino glider for ramp maps, if it works
DONT WORRY ILL HEAL MYSELF GUYS LOOK MY RACIAL IS FINALLY GETTING USE 
Honestly suckks that it's a bandage that breaks on a single dot tick
just bubble hearth
Im so sad that they ruined death sentence
rip cool situational talent that'll probably now be plagued with bugs
What did they do?
added cd to the charge which is both clunky in terms of tracking and i imagine prone to bugging out like when you execute and it doesn't charge you, that'll almost certainly put the charge on cd
nooo....man that sucks
buffing hunters in 2s 
Haven't pvp'd this patch, but last patch execute sniping in rbgs with death sentence was so much fun.
Death sentence is (kinda) kill next patch
6 sec cd
Is that a cd just for death sentence or it puts your regular charge on cd too?
6 second cd on the execute charge itself
charge unaffected, execute unaffected
can just only proc the charge execute every few seconds
so no perma charging vs locks etc
Ah ok, yea can see that being buggy
This talent has always been bugged as fuck
Chwrging when rooted
Not charging and just hitting execute from range
yep
And other stupid bugs
Fuk ds
Its like heartstop aura
Fun to use, not healthy for the game
already didn't play it in most matchups though 
just gonna need extra alcohol when queuing 2s now
Are you ever playing maledict as warrior
I haven't. I've thought about it a few times, but usually it's just insignia for throughput, badge for goes or battlemaster if there's a chance I could get clipped.
i feel like it's generally on spear or conq, with ava being alittle more flexible for root breaks etc
After 5 months, I did it boys
nice
Small world. 
how bad is the death sentence nerf/
I think that we're going to see an uptick in questions regarding how to deal with BM hunters in 2v2
2s ticks me off I'd rather just play alt 3s or something
warrior reverting to wheelchair status in 9.2
i feel more inclined to play ds as necro, so wonder if that'll add another reason to play kyrian if glory ends up being super poop
death sentence nerf was massive bufff for bm hunter, ww monk, mages, rogues
kekw
i dont even take the talent anymore
just top start getting used to the depression
yeah 2s not soundin fun
and in 3s i generally run like duel or banner
and have been trying warbringer to stick spears on people that i don't wanna bolt
yeah it gets way more value in 2s
ooga booga statcheck bracket
cant wait to not be able to touch feral/x double dps 2s since I can't touch any of them!
as much as i dislike 2v2 i am curiously the least angry warrior most of my healers know which came as a surprise 
casters mald 24/7
sometimes when i play my alts and get death sentence exe spammed i do get annoyed
but idk
its like i was ognna die anywauy
i walk away to let them think they have a chance then charge execute back 
this nerf just reinforces that someone at blizz with power to make changes plays either druid, hutner, or mage.
if the guy didn't quit i'd say it's the 2k mw after getting charge executed through his rop 3 times
i know that i have gotten whispers over that
lmao
I mean they're just turning SLand warrior into tbc war
insane crits that randomly just kill people and lowering mobility
Yeah, tricky to find a balance.
Kite somebody for 25 seconds, they connect and you get split in half
mage point was pretty obvious
when's the last time they were subpar again?
As opposed to full uptime that doesn't matter because bfa destro etc
Idk but mage in general is just their pet class in all forms of content
unhinged is crack into cleaves. might be cool with DS being less mandatory to run short storm but idk
Yeee I’m only 2.1 so it doesn’t matter what I play, can literally play anything to that rating lol
sterge on that night fae fury grind
bro has more r1s than i have seasons played but it's almost motivating to try & push after seeing that
I was kind of torn on unhinged. Like, it seems super nice for something like kitty where you get juiced and it hits super hard.
I feel like unhinged against clothes just goes super well
I'll probably just craft everything and rotate around and see how it goes. Enduring is probably the conservative pick.
3 MS in a row is just so unexpected
I really liked it s1 where a single ms was a higher % their health than it is now
I grinded 2.4 w unhinged but for fun but EB is better for sure
Yeah, I used sephuz or unhinged.
Never used sephuz tbh
Do u guys have any tips as arms warrior rsham against rdrood monk
Just feels like if they play perfectly I cant win
Following a druid that knows how to play just feels impossible and if I leave my shammy alone wthout trinket he is dead
can swap rdruid if they int mobility but doing little swaps is rough because then they get frenzied value
monk can usually just pop away from you, disarm warbreaker, get thorns, etc
also accidentally took disarm into a monk and killed them because if it because i disarmed out of bolt when they were speared and they couldn't use fists to parry 
I tried doing swaps yeah but no way literally feels impossible
Disarm on every warbreaker and no way I trinket a disarm against a monk
i mean swap to rdruid has to be a commit and ideally when their hots have fallen off, or they threw their load on their partner
Thorns just makes me go dstance everytime
small swaps get frenzied off
and yeah can't hit into thorns unless u really swingin
Plus sometimes he gets random procs that just kick my ass and make me go dstance again
So the whole time when I dont have burst I pretty much sit dstance for a reason or another
And whenever I commit too much I get punished straight away
Anyone know what this addon is
Enemy arena frames and shows some CDs under their name
gladiusex
yay so happy
congrats bro
ty bro
had a bad start 1-5 droped to 2220 then dsic made us just sit healer
to be fair our disc had high rating so i got a bunch of mmr per win
MMR is weird and goes up bigly if you aren't queuing
well, rather, regardless of whether you're queuing
also grats, now get those wins
oh and it was against the treadmill guy too ahahaha
@sharp meteor my god i free q on my monk out of boredom with rando healer from lfg
somehow go 7-0, how tf do rdruids at 2.2 play like they're 1600
rofl
rdruid 2s is like the most boosted spec i swear to god
sit a mile back while a hunter or warrior 1v2s
and yet so many choose to int for no reason
also watched an mw
port 2 yds
and a rogue mage that could have won if the rogue didnt just rando come out for no reason when i had a full go ready and man had no trink
hha yeah for sure
thx self yeah i hope it goes good
there's also this cool thing u can do vs mw which is push in on them
especially if it's pushing them into their port
and it just ruins their mind
because they're screaming at their dps to pull you the fuck away from them
and yeah sometimes a scuffed go is actually a decent go because they think you can't do a go because it'll be scuffed
🧠
aahahah nice you did into treadmill man too
zez is gigatoxic
thinkin about when i queued into the mies and bodying his rogue in the first minute then my healer links his stream and he's screaming about how his rogue is a dirty unwashed peasant
something about hpal players hmm
queued into him the other day playing destro/ww
apparently his twitch got nuked or something
yea it did
shambles
why does that druid conduit not have an ICD
the one where they keep movement speed for 5 sec after ocming out of form
rdruid can maintain insane uptime on it running around at like 150%+ speed lol
for a majority of the match
u really see nothinhg wrong with that conduit?
ye exactly
its like wtf
on my sham
every 2s match is just rogue/rdruid past like 2400
would rather fight bm hunter/non-rdruid healer
Playing druid and never going closer than max range heals is like an insta 300 cr injection so
I'm not surprised
nah good rdruids go feral aff and play in your face with rake stuns and make you mald
Yeah but bad druids doing the same thing just die
So you can afk heal for free or
And not have to be good til you get high enough
you gotta know when you can do it
druids like dinoe, flop, kubzy, they all do it at perfect times
You can eliminate the idiot factor and claim free rating by just standing max thats the point
Obviously if you wanna be at the top you gotta learn to abuse all your buttons
is it legit even possible to beat outlaw/rdruid as disc warr
its impossible
the evasion cd, kidney cd, dismantle, are all so low
and cant touch rdruid ofc
vanish is on lower cd too
i loved people that q’ed dk rdruid in notorious
and did this guard aff by the pillar
yes it is possible actually you just have to repeatedly gas pedal druid every possible swap, but this only works if the rdruid is bad aka 2.4k in 2s, 1800 in 3s
you have to kill the rdruid, rogue is gonna have cd's for every go and have disarm
you need your disc to purge on your goes too
Last season was much better, Druids were crap Holy Paladins were practically double dps comps.
last season until 9.0.5
9.0.5 made rdruids actually gross and they just keep getting buffed
so sad hpals' blue bar moves now
Imagine spending mana 😩
You’d think they would not buff rdruid even further in 9.2
But pve exists
So here is +15% dps/hps on every ability for the birthday boys
nah rdruids just keep getting buffed over and over lmao
they can't stop buffing them
giving them a cracked tier set and more buffs as well as how broken double lego is for druids
Personally I like priest metas
usually not as damp
Rdruid be like
Like in 9.0 where if you pressed any cd they struggled to heal through it
fun thing about bad rdruids
you do dam to both of them at once and they dont know what to do
Press cen ward on one target->Another target gets damaged->Cen ward is on cd->Brain.exe stopped working

Should you never hit the target that has cen ward
Or should you never make rdruid prio target …..
You have to swap on cen ward
Ideally
Full hots+cen ward= the target is gonna outlive the planet
What hots do I look out for? Just thinking of which ones I need to add to my nameplate add on
Cenarion ward
Is the most impactfull but the rest they will have on themselves for majority of time
swappin off cen and barks is dece
is what makes 2s annoying
cos u often can't
:))
basically if an rdruid cen wards a target, and you swap, then they can't afford to swiftmend the cen ward because then they're gonna struggle to heal the target you're swapping to, and if they don't swiftmend the cen ward, it'll fall off after several seconds and you can swap back and there's no cen ward to extend
so often times, they're forced to extend the cen ward anyways and use the soul of the forest rejuv to heal the swap target, which is why it's extremely important to purge on swaps or to purge the soul of the forest proc
good times, hpal meta 
yep in there now
am full rival, pushed duelist real quick and now have 2 tiers up upgrades
Too bad Comp Stomp, despite being the most efficient other than stomping low MMR RBGs, is still pretty terrible
I actually timed it and I average ~7mins per Comp Stomp win, so ~3,840 Honor/Hour and 3.9 Hours per Honor Cap
So 3.9 hours is not even enough to upgrade my 2H to full, since that's fucking 17,450 Honor
7?
and that's just one item
Yeah, 7 mins if you include waiting for everyone to accept
1.5mins for the game to start, etc
ye i guess
The win of the game itself is obviously not 7min
Got my sword in the chest last week thankfully, but still have to buy everything else. Yolo'd rival with a guildie, but thankfully PvE gear seems to still carry in the low brackets.
upgrading 550 conq worth of gear per week isn't unreasonable during the initial thing as you're kind of timegated on it
whereas setting up alt up late and upgrading all the slots at once is like aaaaaaaaaaa
Aye that is my pain atm, not to bothered though I'm just having fun with games. Usually I'm a Paladin but rerolled to give Battleshout to the raid in December as our Warriors all went awol.
I will just get what I can until 9.2
already have mastery wep upgraded to rival i so just sticking with that i suppose 💀
like it honestly is fine when you're gated on conq gains, right
but coming in and being able to grind all the gear
I'm not sure the conquest weapon is better than my Jaithys at Rival I, may be at Rival II or Duelist.
fully upgrading my 220 conq box gear on my alt warr to Rank8 is like... 4 honor caps or sth
yep
blizz big brain strat
playing alt warr its like
you'll have enough conquest
10 games, afk comp stomp or random bg for upgrades
You 3v3?
it's a fucking pain is what it is
2v2 is giving me a dribble on conquest, I only got 2 rings and trinkets in 40 games
even w/ freaking comp stomp
just so long
4 honor caps would be around 16hrs of comp stomp grind
2v2
BM/rdruid is my pain, only ran into them twice though so whatever.
Won all games against SV but only at Rival so they are probs bad
I lose to BM/Rdruid w/o them getting a single trap, literally.
Yer same
I may be bad though
just a 6-7 min game of them shooting me w/ the Venthyr leggo and smashing me
I reflected most the traps in one game but just could not connect
its games like those where I miss Condemn the most ❤️
its like bm is in this digusting spot where it just does so much damage that all they have to do is play safe and they win on mana
don't int for trap
pve dam
I'm really liking Kyrian tbh, when the guy does not bug out the grip that is.
cringe fucking spec
i havent played that char in like 4 months lmao
yeah outlaw has 0 cd evasion because most bms dont know how the conduit works
so frenzied pets reset its cd
and pirate just eats their face
assa rsham week 1 of the seas into bm hpriest was comedy
q'ed into 5 diff teams
each one hunter gets knocked out by dwayne in opener
or totem
yeah everybody know it's like hey ill help any alt you have to duelist in no time but pls don't ask me to push 2400+ 2s 
lmao true
i just got bored early and free q'ed with some rando priest from lfg
said to myself stop when we lost
go 7-0
then got bored
fucking trolling ass rdruid teams
standing in mid out of form with no hots
blessed inting rdruids 🙏
no way to lose and they hop in with no hots or trinkets to dr bash somebody 👌
also rogue mage could have literally killed me cuz i trinket opener but rogue decides to rando unstealth and not do anything to get sweeped w/o his trinket
have a general idea of how to beat boomie/dh usually by just murdering rsham
now queuing into ones running rdruid
💀 aaa
trust me, boomie/warr/rdruid is even worse 
Certainly feels bad.
Also queued into a double ww hpal and they'd each do a go on a different one of us and one got blessing of summers
it's like random affix comps fk
partner was setting up his dh and he'd be like 10% scoming out of a stun then popped his demon and ate the soul for a full heal
and blur really does feel unreasonably strong
now THAT really feels like an oversight
yeah you 100% can glimpse out of a disarm, disgust
also thankful that scripts don't seem to be a thing so much any more because jesus fuck imagine every shitty weeb dh point blank glimpsing every cc with travel time 
Would be nice if it was like this
4 caps is 60k honor
You need twice as much to upgrade the whole set
Even more if you’re fury

Just a question here
Why is mistweavers monk fucking disarm ranged
Like how the fuck does kung fu panda take my sword if he is 15 yards away
rope
the master of arms knows less than monk about disarming someone
so we have to take it with our hands not a thrown object
They also take your sword even though you’re parrying
No F’s given
Ah man voice crack*
Anyone has written some notes about double leggo as arms for pvp yet ? If yes where can I find it
only really big thing is EM+EB for arms as kyrian
rest is kinda whatever since covenant leggos arent that useful in pvp scenarios for warriors outside of Elysian Might
EM + mirror will be nice
And EM + leaper
👀
I guess em + signet will be quite bursty too
EM+Unhinged as well
but play pattern stays more or less the same is my guess
really not looking forward to the amount of legendaries you possibly have to make for optimal setups between pve and pvp lol
im hardstuck at 3's 1700 mark
literally cannot get to 1800
every team i'm queuing into is 60k HP +
its just win loss loss win loss loss over and over
You can win at that point just by PvE'ing people down and stopping setups
Biggest issue is usually over using stuff and casters/healers having no idea how to position
our ret got 100-0 before the hunter even came out of camo
38% versa
its the matter that you aint queuing into 1700 teams, your queuing into 2400 teams on alts
I mean those games you just chalk up to getting shadowlands'd
Vast majority of your games will not be against 2.4k teams on alts. That is just being delusional honestly
it FEELS that way
With enough games, you will climb, even with a negative win/loss ratio
Think the answer there is what is going wrong with your ret to get 100-0'd with only one dps on him
necro marks burst is broken
he bubbled but priest MD immedaitely
Freedomed binding*
Did you intervene him?
didn't even have a chance
I mean you know it is coming
Goals to prevent damage not stick a damage reduction after the damage
Same reason I usually spell reflect after charging a Paladin, it is just the 1800mmr bracket 9/10 the dudes going to just press HoJ like a smooth brain.
Just position where MM is relatively close to yall
hard when he's in camo for opener
Not really
You can position real well to avoid most of it
Turtle a pillar then run past the corner when he opens
Then he moves to you and boom necro immune gone
aimed shot beams though pillars /corners even if you LoS it
stormbolt
Ye true
You can live 1 aimed shot lmao
its all about surviving the first burst
and you negate that by LOS until immunity gone
then you can disarm/sb
ye for sure trying that
you dont ever lose in opener if you press buttons
GGWP
unlucl
Is fury getting any buffs in the up coming patch 9.2?
the set bonus is nutty
aside from that
nope
raging blow got 15% dmg buff with 2 pieces
and with 4 pieces raging blow got 20% chance to proc recklessness for 4 seconds
Still trash in pvp
🙂 🙂
@scarlet barn hey do you wanna be my 2.9 healer friend 
Anytime

seems like a meme just press stuff
venth mm hard to deal with because random procs chunk like old ele
Shit was so funny when my monk got 37k aimshot+20k blessing of summer’d
Not likely to happen in every game
But still, the possibility is there, press everything when hunters nameplate appears
yeah spookiest thing i have queued into was the double ww hpal who ran summers
i even peeled both their goes (on each partner) but one threw their trinket out
'
no trust 
Blessing of summer is so cheesy
Seen a bunch of ppl boosting with it
Prot pala+ arms warr+ ww/nf boomie
yeah good for boosting because u end game before u run out of cds or w/e they just die in opener or second dr
owO -domes u with a 20k hammer of wrath-
Go out of the gate, press bubble+ summer onto ww/boomie
The latter uses every movement ability possible to get to the enemy
Press convoke/bonedust brew while warrior charges shatter
Boom oneshot the whole team
If they press everything you forfeit and go next
So cheesy cause it happens so fast and low Cr ppl are not willing to press every def cd possible 3 seconds after the game started
usually working outside a series or just catching people off guard in general is usually how cheese stuff works
hey why did assa rogue vanish opener
Kek
why'd i lose 55% of my health two globals in a row
what
i swear there's always some assa meme build
double ww hpal with summer is still the most oddball thing I've seen recently
Hello friends, I usually dont venture down to these parts, but my friend and I are doing PVP for the first time trying to get the mog (1800) as Enhancement and Arms..... we are close, but we have no idea how to deal with a DH assblasting us. Any advice 🙂
disrupt their eye beam goes
like interrupt the beam itself then stun/disarm the demonic
guts their throughput

Also, what makes Necrolord good and should I consider it over Kyrian? (I have the covenants already leveled from PVE)
necro slaps during banner and fleshcraft is pretty big
makes u big and fast
also the mastery can be great for your partner
make teammate big and fast
also nice for a lot of healers as that mastery gives them big oomph to counterpressure enemy go
From what I learned
If you play with ret play Necro
Otherwise I think cba
but im only a 2.170 scrub 😄
i think that kyrian with necro ret is good
i usually just play terb tho so
addled brain
need to try retwarr again
That psyduck profile pic has me dying lmao
some kind chap in the dh discord made me aware of a new 3d one so I finally have more options
now how will people sell Carries for pvp lol
the same way it used to be
independently
trade chat about to be even more spammy
who looks at trade chat
whats a treyd chat
have had trade chat disabled on everything for ages
maybe the boomers use it as their own little form of social media
thinkin about last season when so many pve players wanted help in pvp that they'd sometimes just approach you and you didn't need to advertise
haha yea
thz guys appracite u guys :d
whomst've cares
its over
no point being in trade if u aren't buying or selling
Tbh banning the communities doesn’t really change anything. Not sure why they did it
Everything is still going to get spammed just won’t have a community name tied to it
I mean at least half of the LFG groups are boosters. can’t escape it Even by not being in trade chat
Yea I don’t really get it either
I guess they want all transactions to go thru the game for whatever reason
People wanted the sense of community back to their servers
Blizzard tells the boosting communities to operate on a server level only.
Profit!
breaks up how centralized they are on paper
they disliked everything being centralized yeah
goin back to the olde days of contacting the good guilds on your server for stuff
cross faction arena hm
ohh yessssss
ahh yesssss
There needs to be a tinder sort of app for alliance people who want horde friends for arena
Im gonna say something
got back up to 2034 - finding it stressful to queue as i dont wanna drop rating this close to 2100... but also can't climb without queueing XD
God damn i miss playing warr as gnome
escape artist
right? like you really take escape artist for granted until you try to play without it
already have 2 root breaks
horde priests get access to good races
and ig druid/paladin
druids get meld
i play unhinged, i prefer escape artist of course hehe
just get ur pet kitty to roar u out of stuff
i think unhinged kitty is good
otherwise ehh?
also what even is a real rating any more
idk could have sworn unhinged was a giant meme
no my vesper lego is a giant meme ^_^

