pvp

[knotty atlas]

What is this.

😂

[fickle forge]

Busted man

Can we get Mwahi glad at least once on prot warr?

[knotty atlas]

Je, i'm a big PvP'er.

Oh damn, my highest 2v2 rating is 1139.

[graceful quarry]

the most reasonable answer

[grand scaffold]

Hi. Fury is so trash.

[fickle forge]

Have you tried playing with a 2.9k healer?

[elder wigeon]

definitely helps

I would definitely like to try necrolord fury with a kyrian rdruid

absolutely meme tier

[wheat jay]

Like dh but worse

[main copper]

Comp Stomp week you can farm up those AB wins to looks like a PvP legend.

[warped warren]

have you?

[scarlet barn]

have you?

[fickle forge]

have you?

[wheat jay]

have you?

[fierce elm]

We have

[main copper]

I suppose I could actually ask a question.

I play with a Disc Priest we are only 1800 as I am a scrub tier Warrior, but we are struggling with DH's.

What is a sensible way to peel for my healer?

I'm pretty much just training the DH down these days as that seems to work 5 times out of 10.

[fickle forge]

Apply slow and enjoy that DH has no slow

Now you just gotta worry about yourself not getting one tapped

[main copper]

The Hunt is mad scary 😄

[fickle forge]

DH players play necro now ma man

I hope you're not losing to NF DHs

[warped warren]

no

[scarlet barn]

Does 2.9k rio healer count?

[floral ingot]

Ofc not, he’s obviously talking about 2.9k achievement points

[main copper]

Generally DH/Resto Shaman we lose to, they kinda murder my Disc Priest rather efficiently. Not had much issue with other healer combo's as I can usually murder the DH first.

[elfin surge]

🤪

[full quiver]

for most of this expansion people had remarks about arms being too good, but unless you are wearing paper those 30k/40k executes just ain’t there, more like 12k.

arms has an outdated toolkit, and every other class can now outdamage and outlive arms no problem.

arms can die in a stun even in defensive stance. a DH can do all arms damage plus 1/3 more. our tier sets will be trash. healers are getting buffed. even a holy priest will outdamage arms.

[floral ingot]

Have you tried using hamstring?

[eager oracle]

Comp stomp is the best to farm if you want the tabard yeah? It gives defiler rep?

[main copper]

Yer think it is like 500 rep a win

[scarlet barn]

yea few games and you got it

everyone and their moms are doing comp stomp

[eager oracle]

Yeah I’ve just been lazy, trying to hold off until I up my pvp rating but haven’t had much time to play this week

Currently capped on honor but night do it for the rep

[scarlet barn]

i do it on side

cause it requires 0 brainpower

[midnight ginkgo]

Incoming dead shit question: since when were rogues able to dodge bladestorm?
I thought id had this dude smoked and it was dodged out the ass.
Maybe i took too much time off retail lol.

[raw summit]

Evasion?

[midnight ginkgo]

Yeah he used evasion but since when did that mean shit in regards to aoe

[raw summit]

Guess bladestorm behaves different than idk flamestrike for it

[fierce elm]

Cant dodge spells

So that makes sense

Evasion/Blur works on bladestorm

[midnight ginkgo]

Eww, well rip me

[warped warren]

as long as hes facing you he can dodge

[main copper]

If he is an execute away from dead you can fear him to land it, or better Storm Bolt him. But sods law says they won't be up so may as well just sit D-Stance and pick your nose or hit someone else for a bit.

[full quiver]

hit him with da over powers

[steep inlet]

i was one of the first SL crit war

and right now i'm testing haste

and liking it too

23% haste

went 1 year with crit

but i like the flow of haste right now

for bladestorming ccs fast, 1 more ms etc

4,9 sec gcd ms

the problem is sometimes i want my crit back

especially to finish some fucking lock

crit = haste for real

it's the definitive answer

[sharp meteor]

yeah

[fading socket]

Is shattering throw worth using on a necroshield?

[scarlet barn]

If you wont use it on anything else in that game sure

[sharp meteor]

yep if you aren't going to need it to punch through a bubble cocoon or w/e

just in general throwing it in the opener is decent/fine

also have noticed people can be more aggro with immunities if you throw it in the opener which is funny if you decided to run demolish

[fickle forge]

I literally have no clue why people throw it in opener

You shave off like 14k or so

[mild pier]

If there's nothing else to use it on why not

[fickle forge]

Why not use it for next and possibly destroy most, if not all, of it?

[plain wing]

whats the best program to record games? My stream quality (when i try to atleast) is so bad

[fickle forge]

SquadOV

[plain wing]

ty

[mild pier]

Probably could, depends on the situation I guess

[sharp meteor]

throwing the toothpick also sometimes baits a scuffed initiation/go

had a fdk not too long ago just grip it

[thin hornet]

would enh/arms work in 2s?

[sharp meteor]

of course

ret/arms, feral/arms and enh/arms are all quite solid

[elder wigeon]

Feral war >> enh war > ret war > in 2’s

[sharp meteor]

yeah feral warr is actually insane

[mild pier]

Feral war is good because you can afk while the feral 1v2s

[manic raptor]

what soulbind's best for necro?

[plain wing]

i just got absolutely destroyed by a spriest

like how do i prevent that damage

spriest ww monk comp

i killed ww fast

and the spriest just blew me up

[sharp meteor]

unholy nova plus voidform is spoopy

[elder wigeon]

lol

[plain wing]

thius game is tilting

fucking 2s in 2k bracket man

just getting ruined by every dps

dh doing double my damage

nice

6k sustained dps

nice

just getting ruined

no defensives to stay alive

healer getting ruined

will post vods

[steep inlet]

Mookin War resune ?

[plain wing]

yo

whoevert plays DH

can play in fucking traffic

like im geting my teeth kicked in

fuck that class

i cant climb cuz they do unlimited dam

like what the fuck do i do

[grand scaffold]

what comp are you fighting dh

like what are you playing and what is the dh playing

[plain wing]

IM SO FUCKING TILTED

SURV HUNTER DISC PRIEST

DYING BACK TO BACK GAMES

I CANT DO ANYTHING

ITS JUST SLOWLY FUCKING DYING

i cant do fucking shit

im so fucking over this dogshit designed gbame

like what the fuck do i do

my dam gets shut down

fuck this game

im uploading vods

and have no idea what i couldve done better

got to 2070 and then just 8 losses in a row

like

idk what the fuck to do

[nimble jasper]

actually respond to their cds properly

altho alot of people dont know how survival works

[plain wing]

bruh

i do

i almost die

so i parry

and use shit

then somehow

theyre doing 7k sustained

[nimble jasper]

hunters dont sustain 7k

[plain wing]

its so fucking absurd

DH is do

im about to send screenshots

[nimble jasper]

if they're cleaving prob

is DH training healer

[plain wing]

got to 2060 and now im back to 21k

2k

cuz i just cant do shit

DOUBLE MALEDICT ON MY HEALER

OH HE'S DEAD

CANT DO SHIT

ALREADY feared and stunned and disarmed and intervened

good game

fucking over it

[nimble jasper]

I mean you somehow got put in a situation

where you got double maledicted

w/o a dispel

[plain wing]

all of yall that bash your heads against this garbage ass game that is about to get even worse next patch

idk how u do it

fucking smoothbrain fucking shit

fucking DH

Fuck hunter

game is fucking broken

[nimble jasper]

sounds like you dont respond to their cds properly

and blow your load when you're not on any DRs

or without cc

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk what you expect

[plain wing]

lemme upload vods

and lets see if u still say that

cuz fuck this

30 points away from 2100

and i int

and die to fucking everything

fuck this DH bullshit game

[nimble jasper]

You either kill DH in stormbolt

or go his healer

If DH is training your healer you are straight clowning sitting on him

and giving the guy free cleave all game

[plain wing]

bro

the dh was sitting on my healer

and killin ghim every time

i cant out dps him on his healer

and i just waste fucking goes and shitty stuns i think

[nimble jasper]

Let me guess

DH is playing with a shaman

[plain wing]

Yea

[nimble jasper]

and running into the guy's LOS

😂

the good ol fash healer int

[plain wing]

bro

the fact that people complain about warrior

is fucking retarded when classes like hunter and DH exist

like what the fuck do i do

when im out of intervene, parry, and rally

I just have to either watch myself or my healer die.

[nimble jasper]

Idk I only find DH hard when i play with LFG healers

anytime i q with one of my reg healers its a straight murder

[plain wing]

Im playing with a glad resto sham.

so yea no

[nimble jasper]

is guy glad on his sham

doubtful he dies off the bat to a rando dh

Survival is the best melee in 2s but there's like almost no good hunters on NA

[plain wing]

yes.

not off the bat

but outdamages me

and kills him

and i dont have anything

[nimble jasper]

That's expected

rsham can abuse tf out of dhs tho

you just root them behind pillar

and laugh

[plain wing]

yea totally

tell that to my 2500 sham

sure he'd like the tips

[nimble jasper]

not sure how you found a 2500 rsham

but if hes actually good you're misplaying

[plain wing]

but yea fuck this game. got to 2060 and now back to 2009..... just getting ruined by surv, DH, etc

[nimble jasper]

cuz dh will eventually kill

if it goes on too long

[plain wing]

Like what the actual fuck

[trail coyote]

Bruh bruin I swear you’re always down bad

[nimble jasper]

I've never lost to spriest in 2s though

[plain wing]

Yea i am man

[nimble jasper]

class is really easy not to die to

lmao

[plain wing]

let me have this one thing

[nimble jasper]

oh nvm i lost once to wealthyman/cmg playing sp mage in 2s

[plain wing]

like I need to use something to save my healer or me

[nimble jasper]

cuz bad trink

[plain wing]

then I just die

[nimble jasper]

unlucky

[plain wing]

afterwards

Like what the fuck is this shit game

Im just terrible

I could punch a hole in my fucking bathtub right now im so fucking angry

[nimble jasper]

You tilt too easily

over wow

lmao

[plain wing]

Bro i dont]

i was fine all night

then i lost 8 in a row

and obviously im fucking pissed

like LET ME JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

i use a cc or a defensive

10 seconds later

theyre still somehow killing us]

Like i literally only have intervene, parry, fear, and rally for shit to use

[nimble jasper]

I dont tilt too easily

read what you just wrote

[plain wing]

fucking over it.

[nimble jasper]

the past 20 mins

[trail coyote]

Tilt is the enemy

[plain wing]

I was close to 2100

[nimble jasper]

tilt queueing

is scuba diving

[plain wing]

a rating i dont deserve

[nimble jasper]

tbh

[plain wing]

andim shit

now im back to 2000

no chance of getting 2100

cuz obviously i fear and shit when im not supposed to

[nimble jasper]

you care way too much about cr

[wheat jay]

stop tilt queueing

XD

[nimble jasper]

it comes as you get better

[wheat jay]

just chill

[plain wing]

It doesnt man

[wheat jay]

and improve

[plain wing]

it really doesnt

[wheat jay]

it does

stop bitching

[plain wing]

punching a hole in my fucking bathtub

im not bitching

and it doesnt

i can play 10 games

and do the same shit everytime

i dont learn anything

cuz its just panic reacting to dh's doing 10k dps for a 2m in game

[nimble jasper]

you see big meta pop

you minimize damage taken

not panic cd at 10%

or some meme shit

[plain wing]

minimize damage how

ignore pain

run away

oh wait

u cant

2060

back down to 20089

2009

love it

fun game

fucking 2100 warriors letting me disarm them in their cd's and not using bladestorm

and still fucking beating me

like fucking dipshits

DH's, and surv hunters? yea no fucking chance i can outdamage that

fucking tilting as fuck.... video game or not

fucking make this game good

[nimble jasper]

you should upload vod

[plain wing]

Literally got to 2063 30 minutes into games tonight

[nimble jasper]

I've never run into a good hunter below 2.1

lmao

[plain wing]

now im back down to 2009 after 8 game losing streak

[nimble jasper]

they're all dumbass rats

[plain wing]

So fucknig close.

now im back in the pipedream never happening land

Like if one of us is about to die of course i have to use a defensive

and use shit

then i just die 20 seconds later

like

wef jklo;'h jiklo;'QWEFG2wegh juiklo;o;'WERH JKL;g

I cant just not fucking press anything

FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME

dh's can fucking play in rush hour traffic

if you play fucking meme surv hunter

fucking play in traffic

[nimble jasper]

you disarm big meta

and sham ideally roots him behind los

stuff like that

Idk dh dmg only feels scary imo if they got kindred buff

[plain wing]

so fucking tilted

no shit i disarm his meta

he has big dam all fucking game what are u saying

he aws doing 8k

when we lost

600k dam in like 2 min

like how the fuick do you stay motivated

after being 2063

then dropping back down to 2009

just punch me in the fucking face

actually saw the end of the tunnel

how do u get better at this fucking shit

[nimble jasper]

Only way he's doing 8k was if he was cleaving you too

its also a decent amount of pad damage from hitting the demon with throw glaive

[trail coyote]

Yo -54 cr is nothing bro

It’s all mindset

[plain wing]

it is

i was close

i literally just throw shit out

i fucking suck at pvp

and am over this fucking shit

i just want to feel in control and feel like i know what im doing like everyone else that supposedly plays this shit

[wheat jay]

Follow the script, do max dmg, peel your healer when needed

That's all

[plain wing]

its obviously not

[wheat jay]

Do max dmg is quite important

That's literally all my man

[plain wing]

if im getting my cock kicked in

[wheat jay]

You need to respond accordingly

Peeling your healer is also stopping CC on him whenever you can

If you got close to 2.1k then you can get to it

Just dont tilt

Relax

[plain wing]

sir

[nimble jasper]

the fact

[plain wing]

how the fuck do you peel a surv hunter

or a fucking dh

[nimble jasper]

you didnt force an rdruid to trinket

[plain wing]

no i cant

cuz im dogshit

and obviously carried by a glad shaman thats a friend

[nimble jasper]

all game means you didnt generate any relevant pressure

[plain wing]

like how fucking bad do i have to be at something to not get 2100 with a 2500 sham

[nimble jasper]

necro war is juste

[plain wing]

special olympics here i com

[trail coyote]

Lmao not as obviously carried as that dude the other day

[nimble jasper]

not optimal into rdruids anyway

any druid with hands will kite you

XD

[plain wing]

fuck this game man

i just end up tunneling and panicking when they are kiling us

freeze

and dont do shit

[trail coyote]

Bruin I believe on you

[nimble jasper]

you also feared

[plain wing]

i dont m na.

[nimble jasper]

when nothing was happening

[plain wing]

exactly

[nimble jasper]

not sure what that was about

[plain wing]

mashing buttons

what i do

never learn

how the fuck does anyone pv pin this game

[trail coyote]

Bruh

You’re climbing cr every day

The other day you were bitching about not being 18 or something

And you were like 3 wins off of 2.1 today

[nimble jasper]

also worth mentioning

[trail coyote]

Inhale copium and queue again

[nimble jasper]

you could have dragged dh behind los

[plain wing]

bruh but thats the thing

[nimble jasper]

instead of letting the rdruid pve heal in the middle

all game

[plain wing]

ITS ALL LLUCK

[nimble jasper]

lmao

[plain wing]

im not playign weel

well

[trail coyote]

Go next

[plain wing]

ALL FUCKING LUCK ON MY END

i dont learn anything

i dont play well

i just roll the dice

hope i win

Im not improving

at all

even if my garbage cr is

i wouldnt be surprised if 2063 is the highest i get

cuz i just fucking tunnel and fucking panic

supposedly never do the right shit at the right time

i could breack literlaly everything in my pc right now im so fucking angry

[trail coyote]

You’re wild

i love it

[nimble jasper]

that second game

you didnt fear or stun until your sham was dead

big umm moment

First game was just funny considering you charged into the most obvious vortex placement.

Third game confused tf out of me considering you fear hunter and his pet opener and don't instantly go for a big dam pop to get cooldowns from them.

And you just sat there bladestorming during a full trap on healer.

[plain wing]

19 games

like 9 wins

im shitg

drywall is RIDDEN with holes

[nimble jasper]

like personally I don’t think necro is worth in 2s considering how dominant rdruid is

[plain wing]

just dont think im cut out for 2s.

err pvp

dont think im cut out for pvp

guess i have a fucking smooth brain

and hur dur everything

and end up with holes in my drywall cuz i never feel like i have any fucking clue what im fucking doing

hats of to those that can actually decipher this fucking game

[nimble jasper]

hmm did mud leave this channel

[plain wing]

but i sure as hell cant

[nimble jasper]

could have sworn he was here

[plain wing]

cuz obviously im 200 games deep

and not getting any fucking better.

[grand scaffold]

getting good at pvp takes time

its not ez

you are ONLY 200 games in and your basically 2100

thats impressive af

so calm down

seems like you are cut out for pvp

doing really well

[plain wing]

looking at my 2009 rating after being 2063 is enough for my fist to turn black and blue

and throw my fucking computer out the window

so fucking unbelievably demotiviating and titling.

if im 200 games in

and still not getting any better

proly just worth giving up

cuz obviously not learning anything or improving.

[nimble jasper]

tanking is part of playing

[plain wing]

want ot put my fucking fist through a wall or my own face at this point

just like smashing my head agasint a brick wall game after game.... no plan no control, no feel of knowing what the fuck im doing

just pure fucking luck every game whehter i win or lose

dione,

[grand scaffold]

bro

last season

i got 2100 off season

and played OVER 2k games

[quasi lotus]

You have some issues lol

[nimble jasper]

You can also watch streams

[grand scaffold]

getting 2100 in 200 games

[nimble jasper]

🤷‍♂️

[grand scaffold]

is something awesome

[nimble jasper]

mud and dekel have a bunch of 2s vods for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daQaQak1YsQ
Can watch stuff like this where he reviews viewer games etc.

[quasi lotus]

I played more games between 1850-2050 after losing to rng at 2092 then you have total arenas

Chill fam

[gloomy warren]

can i track shatter in details somehow?

[plain wing]

@grand scaffold the thing is, all the games i win are pure luck. so me dropping rating, i dont have confidence of going back up

cuz the wins i do get are luck

noit becuase i feel like i out skilled the other team

dont feel like i didnt anything diff than games i lost

just random feeling and throwing shit out

[grand scaffold]

that game you posted against dh rdru didnt look too bad

you nearly killed the rdru

and

probably isnt luck

no way you get so much luck that you get 2100 in 200 games

doesnt make sense

probably just learning arena properly

btw

your pfp looks cool

just keep trying

you doing really well in arena rn

your wins dont seem to be luck

you legit kicked that rdru's ass

[elder wigeon]

kitty cleave

[elder wigeon]

rdruid kitty cleave vs boomie dh

[grand scaffold]

who are you focusing

[elder wigeon]

go blue

[plain wing]

i mean even in skirms

i just die instantly

so like

obviously im dog shit

have no situational awareness

just mash buttons

so yea id say im dogshit.

like in skirms

i just rush in

pop everything

and wonder why i die

again, like hitting my fucking head against a wall

definition of insanity = doing the same thing thinking there will be a diff result

I just dont learn, rush in and pop my load

and fucking get destrolyed always

losing every fucking skirmish for instance

fucking joke

like im fucking terible,.

losing 10 skirms in a row

really skillful

oh i get speared? panic panic panic

dont end up hitting anything useful an djust tunneling

nice

again

not getting any better

im the definition of insanity

and im ready to smash my fucking pc into 2000 dogshit fucking pieces.

[cedar silo]

Take a break man

Come back to pvp next season which is probably within a month

[plain wing]

11*

nah fuck pvp

obviously not for me.

never get any better

fucking hitting my head against a wall

fucking dogshit

idk how any of yall do this shit.

ill stick to pve

where i belong

my pc is going IN THE FUCKIN TRASH

fucking hurrrrr durrrrrr theyre opening on me let me just smash all my defensives with no secong thought HRRRR DIRRRRRRr

How fucking hard can this game fucknig be]

not improving at all

feel; like a fucking smoothbrain

so tired of getting fucking steamrolled

and just having 2 dps sit on me and popping all my defensives cuz i fucking dyuing

and not know what else to fucking do

no prio for my rotation, i just throw shit out

damage is dogshit

control is dogshit

how the fuck do u get bgetter

you can say fucking playh more games

but i am

and i just hjit my head against a wall EVERY FUCKING GAME

same shit different fucking game

insanity

dont swith anything up, i literally just do the same shit. every. fucking . game.

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[grand scaffold]

can you calm down

if you over 2k 200 games is

in*

thats good

[unique frost]

Stop complaining, find one area you are bad at and work on it, even if you lose

go step by step

[fierce elm]

this has to be fake at this point kek

[steep inlet]

@plain wing this is not Warrior mentality

calm down

[wheat jay]

chad improvement mindset vs virgin victimhood mentality

[fickle forge]

No, you definitely need a better mentality and a break from this game

[grand scaffold]

Facts

[elder wigeon]

true

[quick tiger]

Morning, for a new warrior player what covenant would you recommend? Comparing Necro vs Kyrian w/o Elysian Might

[grand scaffold]

go kyrian

with elysian might

without it go necro

[quick tiger]

Thanks, I dont think I want to spend a fortune on leg leggo hehe

[elder wigeon]

head/chest legendary isn't super cheap either

[somber comet]

I see. I never thought of it that way.

Profound.

[elder wigeon]

[somber comet]

You don't see? He solved the equation.

I never thought about it from that point of view.

It's amazing.

[fickle forge]

He's speaking the language of the gods

[somber comet]

That's the secret we need for all new warriors.

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay I found a way to fix our kiting. Just gotta
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[somber comet]

@fickle forge You can't keep spreading DOGHISTIOLASDTJKF L;Kqwevnkml[3w2 jil[aqwe4rmb jil[q234jv3 jk[q5b jikmlo;34m;5v kol34 jiol;2f4 ikmlL;]3R4V5BJ JKO;@$Vko;'24GVKMO,L;2kmop@$v KOP[f4'

It's supposed to be a warrior thing you 🐒

[fickle forge]

Artji is also a 🐒 so it'll work

[somber comet]

Right right, I forgot.

I think that equation should go into the next WoWhead guide.

It will speak to so many new players who are confused.

[fickle forge]

Rank 1's hate him. Learn how to get the top rank with this one weird old trick

[wheat jay]

ook ook

[wheat jay]

watch me do that next session

i'll glitch out of arena to kite

actually

if I do that I'll probably nuke wow servers

and destroy the game, freeing us all

call me sylvanas

I will set us all free

[somber comet]

I would but as a guide writer for NewWarrior.com I'm on break until 10.0. You're on your own for 9.2

Just sim it.

You'll be fine.

And press buttons until things stop moving.

E Z p Z

[wheat jay]

+1

[quasi lotus]

Karg your icy veins guide doesn't include seeing a licensed therapist for arena rage

Update please

[fickle forge]

[scarlet barn]

Well that was wild

[raw summit]

I dont think skirms should tilt you

Sure losing sucks

But in skirms youll either be matched with people in blues or people with full elite gear

There's nothing inbetween

[topaz edge]

hey everyone, any tips for a new(ish) warrior how to deal with hunters and dh? With hunters I can't keep up no matter what I do and if it's marksman the dmg is so fuckin stupid it hurts.. literally.. for DH, dunno, no matter what I do they tend to do so much dmg I can't keep up.. I save my overpowers for blur but yeah, it seems all they do is click one button (glaive throw) and still win.

[somber comet]

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Is the answer to all your problems.

[fickle forge]

Don't save overpowers

You're most likely just using your mobility wrong vs hunter

[raw summit]

Dont charge in the opener

Waddle up to them on your mount

And hamstring/Piercing howl em

[topaz edge]

Yeah that's what I do, but say they are with a dru, the amount of cc they can do with roots, bash etc, I run out of options..

but yeah probably am just trash..

[raw summit]

You arent trash dont worry

[topaz edge]

Ok, so what would you say I do vs hunter and/or dh

[topaz edge]

Thanks 😉

But yeah I have no clue, say I am vs two ranged, they both can obliterate my healer easily

can't do shit vs say mm and fire mage

as either I target the other can easily destroy my partner within few globals

[fickle forge]

You trade mobility CDs
Hunter disengages? Charge
Freedom? Storm Bolt
Another gap? Leap

Then you can stick, especially if you use your SD procs for this as well

It only gets difficult if your healer doesn't help you deal with their healer peels

Like Rdruid root/clone spam

[topaz edge]

Yeah most of the lfg experience I had so far was healer quit after first lose vs such comp because I can't keep up...

granted I play at ~1650mmr but still, getting shitted for not being able to get to a more mobile target is tilting almost as much as fighting vs such classes

[warped warren]

fuxking healers man, GET MY SHEEEEEEEP

[topaz edge]

yeah.. it seems everyone in the lfg expect you to play perfectly because youre the warrior so yeah you should obliterate everything...

then dh comes and just stands there shitting on you -,-

[raw summit]

Dont let the dh pve you

[topaz edge]

Easier said than done.. according to reflex majority if the teams I faced were vs dh/x and most of them I lost..

[raw summit]

Definitely easier said than done

[topaz edge]

I mean if I can pop every cd and rekt them within sb window we win..

[grand light]

It’s fun waddling after a back peddling hunter that moves faster than u still

[sharp meteor]

usually can scuff dh by playing around that little thirty second cyclical damage window

it's like immo aura fel eruption eye beam death sweep x death sweep then empowered fel rush

kyrian leggo does really make them nutty tho

[frosty delta]

Is this still where the men come to discuss lifting? This is probably a safe preworkout right?

Damn can't @ calibri

[sharp meteor]

🪦

[frosty delta]

A symbol of times of old.

[wheat jay]

sorry bro, lifting talk got us nuked

now we're regular pvp nerds

[frosty delta]

Oof, stay strong king

[wheat jay]

you too ❤️

[scarlet barn]

Below regular

[wheat jay]

We used to be great

Fall of Roman empire reenacted on a discord server

[cedar silo]

are the haste vers chest and shoulders from raid worth it for the gems

Bek and Dyz specifically

[wheat jay]

Use pvp items

Unless you have 259 I guess

With main vers

[nimble jasper]

i think thats only the syl shoulders

[sharp meteor]

closing my eyes and pretending pve gear doesn't exist

[topaz edge]

was wondering does anyone have an updated list of spells worth tracking with omnibar? Found one that's from 9.0 (updates late 2020) and is missing some obvious ones like bonedust brew.. but since I have no clue who can do what was looking for some help making such a list in omnibar..

[lucid walrus]

worst case you can download nameplatecds and have pretty much everything relevant on hostile plates

haven’t used omnibar in ages or i’d be more help

[topaz edge]

thanks, I already have a hard time tracking whats on plates with all the buffs/debuffs etc, so would prefer a separate tracker for 'core' abilities

but yeah I guess i'll see what I can figure out on my own based on the games i did

and some reading on the classes and their focus in arenas

[spice hornet]

aaaaaa

trying to get help my friend who came back to the game no t6 archivist

get into the rift without t4 stones

the last 3 venthyr assaults havent had the dude who sells the collapsing rift stones and now the NF assault doesnt have the quest for the free rift item

great rng game

[tranquil hemlock]

How long does it take to get from tier 4 to tier 6 with rifts?

I’m almost at tier 4

[lucid walrus]

probably not more than an hour or 2

at max it gives you like 8k research a run but it also upscales with rep/the BoA item's buff

[tranquil hemlock]

For sure was just curious, been doing dailies for weeks now lol

[lucid walrus]

ah yea. it's a pain but 1:20 cd on wall & full sockets feels good

[plain wing]

yea tier 3 - 4 is brutal

cuz you cant farm rifts

so it takes a lont time

like a week or something

of dailies

or more

[elder wigeon]

no longer in the S tier boys

[plain wing]

lul

ret dh and feral

[lucid walrus]

so true. buff arms

[sharp meteor]

enh 🥲

[lucid walrus]

truly the most oppressed spec

[elder wigeon]

un-nerf death sentence is a start, and maybe fix it too

[sharp meteor]

it really is a janky tweak

i feel like it's already a niche talent eh

[elder wigeon]

it is niche

[lucid walrus]

impressed it wasn't some aura nerf to damage

[elder wigeon]

only useful vs classes with infinite mobility or infinite control

[sharp meteor]

it's like competing with banner duel

yeah

[lucid walrus]

most complaints are either colossal executes/mortals or crazy sustain pressure

[elder wigeon]

but you don't even take death sentence vs RMP so figure it out

[sharp meteor]

:)))

[sharp meteor]

that's just it arms dmg doesn't even seem remarkably high

they just have good peels for teammates

also people getting dinged by all cds is weird because that happens with every spec

imo too much power in cds for everybody but that'sj ust how it be

[elder wigeon]

arms damage isn't especially crazy compared to the rest of the meta, sure the 30-40k executes are really unfair but how often does it happen?

[sharp meteor]

it's like sd proc, warbreaker up, avatar up, conq banner up

[elder wigeon]

maybe often if you're playing with a kyrian druid as necro and playing full crit

[sharp meteor]

AND them not using anything

which is rare

[elder wigeon]

it's kinda rare to be able to spam execute charge the same target as execute rather than condemn

if its a druid, you get one or two executes tops and they're gone lmao

[lucid walrus]

if people went as crazy about banner as they did wings then those instances would be even more scarce

[elder wigeon]

banner isn't as strong as wings but yeah

[plain wing]

i think tier 3- tier 4 takes longer than 4-6 combined @tranquil hemlock

[lucid walrus]

ik. both scary 2min cds tho

[plain wing]

non rift farming is rough

[elder wigeon]

necro ret right now is like damage hacking

[sharp meteor]

i mean you'd want to treat them similarly

i remember early season just throwing conq out and

nobody knew what was coming

[lucid walrus]

wild times

[sharp meteor]

its like now with kitty

its hey like buddy wanna use two things or die instantly

saving a global on warbreaker because u get n enduring proc is funny tho

they don't see the debuff

[elder wigeon]

yeah, won a lot of games in the opener because sp's trying to greed disperse (90 sec cd) for a bunch of 2 and 3 min cd's

[sharp meteor]

yep

[elder wigeon]

it's like bro, it's 3k, use your fucking disperse

but go ahead and tweet if you want

[sharp meteor]

feels ape to send a cd then not get smacked very hard but feels even more ape to greed it and get clapped

just gottaa stick to the script

[elder wigeon]

it's a good trade lmao

[wheat jay]

Isn't it 2s only?

[elder wigeon]

hmm?

[wheat jay]

Afaik supa enjoys 2s most of the time

[elder wigeon]

nah 3's

[sharp meteor]

is it rly

cringe

[wheat jay]

Hmm

[elder wigeon]

i personally think with how crazy everything else is, arms being top of A tier makes sense

[wheat jay]

Is it for now, or for next season?

[elder wigeon]

call it cope all you want with how disgusting DH, ret and ferals are, but it's kind of the truth, yeah i'd say going into 9.2 arms being a top A tier spec is fair

[wheat jay]

If its for 9.2 then i think I agree too

[sharp meteor]

idk and i feel like lot of stuff doesn't want warr nerfed

imagine rets having to try to play with hunters

they'd be in ruins

[wheat jay]

Good

[elder wigeon]

it's not that warrior is getting nerfed

[wheat jay]

Fuk rets

Fuk dh most tho

[elder wigeon]

it's that everything else keeps getting better

[sharp meteor]

its other stuff being insane yeah

[wheat jay]

Bugged pve dogs

[sharp meteor]

honestly warr looks super solid next patch

[elder wigeon]

100%

[sharp meteor]

there's just

more insane shit

[wheat jay]

Dh

Feral doing 100k dot on aoe

[elder wigeon]

extremely good, top of A tier means crazy success, easy R1 if you're a good player

[sharp meteor]

i was afraid they'd kneecap arms imagine losing a chunk of damage now

[elder wigeon]

they wouldn't do that

[wheat jay]

Conq banner should be nerfed

[sharp meteor]

playing warrior cleaves into each other

[wheat jay]

And ds fully removed, imo

[sharp meteor]

is like two rets doing 5k

or two dhs doing 5k

warr is like hey i disarm people and intervene

emotional support that mortal strikes people

[elder wigeon]

I'm only in favor of conq banner being nerfed if everything else was getting nerfed lmao

[wheat jay]

And I 40k execute

Conq banner is what allows some of that shit to exist

[sharp meteor]

god i wish it's so hard

kyrian warr necro ret felt solid

double triple necro also funny

[wheat jay]

Necro ret is disgusting too

Like

Back to back 30k hits

And there was some bug to it too

[sharp meteor]

yeah the uh multistrike conduit fully replicates the divine storm proc i think it was

[wheat jay]

Ye

[sharp meteor]

every ret just ends warstomp in their go and its like

that micro cc

[wheat jay]

Ret should 100% get dmg nerf

[sharp meteor]

with back to back bigly hits

[wheat jay]

Dh

Too

And blur bugfix would be nice

Evasion on 45s cd is too much

Immune to dmg 1/4 of the game

[sharp meteor]

ah yes 40s cd 80% dodge

they need that

[wheat jay]

More, iirc there's baseline dodge too

[sharp meteor]

12% or so

[wheat jay]

My low ilvl dh Has 90.6% dodge in pvp scenario

[sharp meteor]

yep

[wheat jay]

Ahh also necro heal

Proc demon, heal to 100%

[sharp meteor]

wish i had a mooner necro dh looks so much more relaxing than arms

[wheat jay]

Lmao pve people down

Press blur on cd

Get glad

[sharp meteor]

I'm in purgatory

[wheat jay]

No, I am, 35/50, below 2400

Or more like in hell

[lucid walrus]

still on your surv artji?

[wheat jay]

Yep

[lucid walrus]

ah sick. this still a kfc push?

[wheat jay]

Yep

[lucid walrus]

godspeed soldier

[wheat jay]

I hope

Shit's a struggle

[elder wigeon]

just make it work like mag and chun

[wheat jay]

Im surv tho

Gotta improve my kiting and usage of mobilities

That's all that's left

[elder wigeon]

i like how your spec has infinite cc

with its non dr roots and undispellable roots and trap

don't forget pet stun

[sharp meteor]

surv is actually an abomination in 2v2

just lock somebody up for half the gamae

[wheat jay]

In 2s yes, in 3s its a tiny bit weaker haha

[sharp meteor]

yeah

also kind of dreading mms figuring out venth those procs sting

[full quiver]

MM gross

[wheat jay]

Werent you super happy cheesing people in opener playing kfc with mm?

[elder wigeon]

lmao

[sweet sluice]

anyone done 0 to hero as a warr yet?

[raw summit]

Didnt sterge do it

For fury

[sharp meteor]

uh my shitcan alt warr was 170 on tuesday and is nearly 250 now

blessed comp stomp

i imagine shuffle/soloq to whatever the glad equivalent is whenever it comes out is going to be a super popular thing

[lucid walrus]

wonder if shuffle is actually gonna take off

solo q shills are probably gonna tilt that it's not perfect from the get-go and forget it's a brawl

[sharp meteor]

i think most of the people who want soloq are the people nobody wants to play with and are going to feed soloq then blame their teammates lele

has a lot of potential imo, could be cool, could be scuffed, we'll see

they added achis and good honor so as long as peopl ehave incentive to test it

[lucid walrus]

the prot paladin purgatory bracket is the best change so far

[sharp meteor]

bung in shambles

it really was one of those things that could've caused an issue so I'm glad they just axed it

[wet scarab]

I really need to understand this issue with prot paladins

[sharp meteor]

queuing into prot/rsham/x and playing a 15 minute game was the big cringe

[wet scarab]

Because I haven’t had that much trouble with them in arenas, more so than any other off healing class

[sharp meteor]

it is weird how such a small number of people played it though and it still drew nerfs

idk if it deserved them, like performance wise

[wet scarab]

Yeah people really are toxic about it which is hilarious because the few prot pallies I played with seem to really really enjoy their class

[sharp meteor]

although my healer refused to play holy in 2s with full haste so he setup prot and we won like every gaame

[wet scarab]

Like most I played with aren’t doing it to be assholes

Except for the ones trying to cheese blessing of summer with MM hunters

Fuck those guys

[sharp meteor]

blessing is interesting in general could see it working with a lot of stuff as either healing spec

[wet scarab]

Yeah for sure, one nice thing about how long this season was is so many more varied comps got to play out than the meta that was the start of the season

Remember when everyone was mad at monks

[sharp meteor]

yeah people realizing there's more than one way to play a spec is wild

like nobody wants to experiment lmaooo

[lucid walrus]

boomy/dh and kitty weren't seen earlier. it's wild

[sharp meteor]

"nah dude havoc has to play night fae 100% chaos theory too the spec is too binary mang literally no way we could've missed anything"

[lucid walrus]

marks popped up out of nowhere as well

[wet scarab]

Yeah it is literally something that’s been going on maybe two months max ?

[lucid walrus]

there was a guy on my server who played necro dh since day 1 and kept insisting it'd be the next big thing

[wet scarab]

Heh

[lucid walrus]

wonder how much money he made off btc back in the day

[sharp meteor]

yeah i did comp stomp to setup covs on dh and its like hey this feels good

went into dh disc aand there's like 1 guy trying to convince tren to play it

he eventually did and it trickled down

havoc participation going up like 1000% lmao

[wet scarab]

Yeah always wonder how those things start

For a while before the necro DH resurgence they completely disappeared from the rival bracket

[lucid walrus]

lots of stuff isn't played there tbf

[wet scarab]

Yeah but you’re always seeing people levering alts and stuff and they were completely absent

[lucid walrus]

people also didn't really play sub/hpri on 2s ladder til skill capped popularized it if i remember right

[wet scarab]

Yeah true

[lucid walrus]

one of few upsides to long seasons

[wet scarab]

I started playing with a Kyrian resto friend the other day and holy shit for the first time I had fun pairing with a rdruid

I know they’re bis but I don’t enjoy playing with them

He started from 0 with like non upgraded honor trinkets and vers pve gear and it was so easy

I was at duelist rating so we weren’t facing low level teams

[lucid walrus]

ah. solid

i'm feeling bad for rshams coming up honestly

tier bonus seems like a raid thing and all their cov legs are pretty dog

[nimble jasper]

people took foreever to realize how strong kindred lego is

pairing with a necro just getting over 10% flat damage for both of you

[lucid walrus]

shit's so wild

it's damage for both though? i need to reread the tooltip. thought as kyrian they got crit or mast or something

[nimble jasper]

kyrian is 150 mastery

nf is haste, venth is crit

[lucid walrus]

and mast's good for feral iirc

[nimble jasper]

ww boomy with kyrian boomy has been a thing on eu i could have sworn

[lucid walrus]

wouldn't shock me

their meta changes are so weird

[nimble jasper]

i dont lose to monks honestly tho

just gotta trade for bonedust

[sharp meteor]

u get what ur partner is

bind with necrolord u both get the vers

[sharp meteor]

yeah it was

[lucid walrus]

oh sick

that's nuts. it's 8% passive and another 8 on activation yeah?

[sharp meteor]

8% on both, then it benefits from the 40% additional offensive

then u can double every minute (off the global) for 10s

but it can be dispelled

which is why the fury into star surge dump is super spooky while the weeb bat stuns you and eye beams into sweep and fel rush

[lucid walrus]

wew

[sharp meteor]

it being off global is the super scary thing so like bust u know it's coming but have to be quick

if arms already has SD proc banked then they're going to swing into you bigly and suddenly

[worn lagoon]

what do you do against balance/DH ? As Ret/arms?

We played to 2.1 today but this comp is always so crazy

the damage is insane

[frail badge]

is rogue, warrior or demon hunter better iyo for arena? and is rogue hard to play?

[sharp meteor]

they're all excellent play what looks fun

[amber heron]

HOW DO WARRIORS KILL DH?????

U JUST LOSE VS DH HEALER

[sharp meteor]

idk i just bolt disarm piercing their eye beams or w/e thats all their damage

[lucid walrus]

pray it's an hpal

grind em into the dirt

[sharp meteor]

it's lkind of like warbreaker go except they go every 30 usually like clockwork if they aren't fried

deny haste u deny immo aura death sweeps haste which means reduced mortal strike uptime etc

[gentle roost]

Any of you warrs looking for an arena partner? I am full rival geared ret on Alliance, I am looking for a decent and DEPENDABLE warr for next season to climb to glad, wanting to do TGC all the way.

Preferably be on West Coast, but so long as you are vocal and dependable I am willing to try.

[elder wigeon]

swap a lot, kill their healer

[sharp meteor]

ya usually can't outright trade and if u train dh then u both melt so need to do this little dance while peeling their stuff while they mash w

usually they will make some mistakes you can exploit

[gentle roost]

This is how all wins are made

[plain wing]

I can literaly neverbeat dogshit hunters

like what teh fuck do u do

disc priest hunter 2s

they ruin me

[nimble jasper]

not fear piss

[plain wing]

i can put any pressure on priest

cant

double tap ruins me

im just almost dead the whole game

meanwhile i cant do shit

will upload the game

[nimble jasper]

los when trueshot pop

[plain wing]

like im playing against another mm

with resto

back to back

my worst comp for sure

just dont know what to do

[nimble jasper]

stormbolt trueshot

if hes in your line

high chance man tilt trinkets

[plain wing]

bruh

im aboutr to link the most tiltinggame

we won

but

they were just running from me the whole time

[nimble jasper]

I'm gonna be honest

[plain wing]

holy ufuck

[nimble jasper]

I've never lost to mm

on a class with a disarm

its kinda free

[plain wing]

i mean

when do u disarm

i always disarm double tap

[nimble jasper]

the trueshot

you see the badge trueshot pop

thats a disarm insta

[plain wing]

so u start on hutner

i was just running laps around a fucking pillar

not being able to do shit

[nimble jasper]

no i start on whoever

[plain wing]

maybe im just dogshit at this game hahaha

[nimble jasper]

is in a bad spot

[lucid walrus]

fighting mm feels dece bc a lot are necro and some don't run craven

[nimble jasper]

I don't play in the open vs mm

or any wizard really

[lucid walrus]

^

[nimble jasper]

last time i had a hunter tilt trinket disarm

i stunned his trinket

[plain wing]

what if shjaman is just running around fucking pillar

[nimble jasper]

and globaled his dumb ass

[lucid walrus]

what's his partner

[nimble jasper]

then emoted

[plain wing]

resto sham

[lucid walrus]

ah, double rsham

[nimble jasper]

rsham hunter isnt a good comp

at all

like...

[plain wing]

i mean i was running aorund pillar for 20 seconds trying to hi sham hahahah

[nimble jasper]

then dont

[plain wing]

while hunter was in mid

[nimble jasper]

just afk on pillar

[plain wing]

and i dont have charge or leap

ok

[nimble jasper]

what do you have to lose

[lucid walrus]

worst case is his pet follows you and you kill it or make em blow mana

[nimble jasper]

^

or if shaman is extra dumb

and sends his dwayne

[plain wing]

just wanna feel good