pvp

[wicked magnet]

just now on my ele xD

[spice hornet]

lmfao that is so true

idk how blizz is ok with assass rogue #1 dmg being auto attack

so disgusting

[mild pier]

DH damage is truly wild though

Like even single target they literally double my damage

I'm like.. what?

[sharp meteor]

idk what's wrong with that

they have a ton of damage sources

[elder mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qH_55q5YDw&ab_channel=Ratgodmiley

[magic lance]

so I made my warrior venthyr awhile ago, and iirc it was really strong and powerful in s1 and getting a ton of popularity, did something change to make it less so?

[wicked magnet]

they buffed execute and not condemn, buffed mortal strike, lowered the effectiveness of armor, venthyr soulbinds suck...ok that last one isnt new but i just like to remind people xD

[sharp meteor]

so they buffed execute itself, along with overpower

nerfed armor so people squishier

and gave kyrian big spear

also conq banner rework

[magic lance]

so kyrian is the way to go then?

[sharp meteor]

i think kyrian and necro are both excellent

[magic lance]

or does it depend on comp you want to play

[sharp meteor]

ye

[magic lance]

which is better for which comps

[sharp meteor]

idk i only rly play one comp

have seen a reasonable spread of stuff

like wps usually spear but sometimes banner

retwarr usually necro arms kyrian ret but it could honestly be any combination

turbo semes to be spear in general but banner feels better into some stuff

[magic lance]

400 mastery doesn't feel like that much, is it?

[sharp meteor]

its like 13% dam and u get 20% str with conduit

mastery also applies to teammates

[magic lance]

ah okay I didn't know about the conduit

[sharp meteor]

plus speed

[mild pier]

You’ll toss out like 30k+ execute crits

[magic lance]

and if I like playing fury for solo pvp, does covenant choice change at all?

[magic lance]

should you macro conq banner and avatar together?

[sharp meteor]

nope

[pale minnow]

Yooo is cali back and unbanned?

[sharp meteor]

hmm dont' think so

[lucid walrus]

no

doubt he will be

[warped warren]

everything

[sharp meteor]

hmm

[warped warren]

yep

[pale minnow]

Actually outrageous, literally the soul of this discord channel... now we have people like afro... trolling with unexperienced players

[warped warren]

@fierce elm

[gloomy dock]

@sharp meteor next season let's get ,1800 yogerhert

I need me tier gear t.t

[sharp meteor]

are u healer

[spice hornet]

i hate demo so god damn much

[nimble jasper]

peep the 30k arcane barrage

[spice hornet]

that too

just some cheese spellcleave shit

[mystic barn]

just reflect the demonbolt 🤨

[nimble jasper]

mfw people say arcane needs buffs

like, just because fire is s+ tier

doesnt mean arcane is bad

[full quiver]

Lol

[spice hornet]

its legit unfair

gotta just stop qing

this comp they are running

[sharp meteor]

arcane seems okay it's just actually punished for getting interrupted unlike fire

that has another of its four schools already queued

[gloomy dock]

Dk of some sort

Prolly frost

[sharp meteor]

can maybe q a feww weeks in on an alt warr if u have a healer because holy hell those first few weeks

[nimble jasper]

First few weeks is usually q into real teams at 2k

2s is usually still chimp bm hunters regardless of what point in the season

[sharp meteor]

actually might be doing every elite set week 1-2 with one of my healers

[nimble jasper]

I still havent done mail

Do I bring my hunter to 60 and roll my nuts on keyboard for 1800 rq

[sharp meteor]

yeah that's what i did

actually comical playing bm in 2s

[nimble jasper]

Altho at the same time I usually dont have motivation

since elite sets mean nothing since bfa

[sharp meteor]

yeah but honestly the mail one this season looks reasonably slick

[nimble jasper]

I swear

90% of bm hunters would miss every trap below 2.1

[sharp meteor]

mortal strike pet run in circles doing pve dam

[nimble jasper]

if intim stun didnt exist

[sharp meteor]

don't even trap waste of time

i feel like most hunters lose because they feed for the trap

[nimble jasper]

altho most brainless arena experience imo in recent years is still

sinister season dhdk

[sharp meteor]

just trap off cc otherwise play max range and do pve dam

[nimble jasper]

with a pack spirit rsham

legit do nothing

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah just

win

[nimble jasper]

stun manaburn

pve

healer oom

+11

[sharp meteor]

oh no the dk is in trouble

wait he ds'd for half his health twice

[nimble jasper]

dk outheals the rsham

cuz trident and cruc gear

[sharp meteor]

idc what anybody says about sl gearing

bfa was actual rock bottom

[nimble jasper]

notorious season rmpala

[sharp meteor]

i think i had exactly 0 pieces of pvp gear

[nimble jasper]

with my old friends

[sharp meteor]

just all keystone shit

[nimble jasper]

kill an rdruid skin bear at 100%

in half hoj

[sharp meteor]

i still think my easiest was assa in bfa s4

the most gas pedal spec

wish i had a shadow to play it now

[nimble jasper]

assa disc in notorious also great

killing ape dhs in opener with bomb half cheap

schism cycloblaster

[gloomy dock]

Yeah a few weeks in would work for me

I don't have a healer tho

Im really bad at pvp, I'd love to hang out tho

I think fdk war in 2s might slap

[nimble jasper]

warrior is bad in 2s w/o a healer

unless its a necro feral which is basically a healer

[sharp meteor]

fdk/arms sounds awful

and can't make promise i'll q ever idk what's happening next season

i have so many people to queue with on so many chars LMAO

[gloomy dock]

Yeah no promises

I'll discuss this when 9.2 launches

[sharp meteor]

yeah i think ret enh and feral all super solid

but some eus made double necro warr work although that was prior to the fleshcraft nerf etc

[nimble jasper]

eu is a wild region ngl

watching sub ww disc at like over 3k

[sharp meteor]

yep queued into that around 2900 on na went as you'd expect, which is monk cds force stuff then rogue just eats them in a duel

does kind of freeze the blood to queue into something like that

was winnable we were just anxious

[nimble jasper]

that eu team kinda just

went on anyone

that trinketed

[sharp meteor]

yep

[nimble jasper]

with keefers bonedust

[sharp meteor]

we needed an out through duel i think and fumbled that

can aoe into it

like chain harvest heal or w/e

kind of like how u can spin flag in duel

duel so cringe

[nimble jasper]

honestly i really hate how for the most part

you’re pigeonholed into rmp or rps

just because of how much better they are

than every other comp you can play

[sharp meteor]

i love rps and rls would be fine as well

shadow so good tho

[nimble jasper]

rmp is like a mile ahead of the next comp

yah i played rppal s4

but

priest went alli

[sharp meteor]

shambles

i only wanna play assa and mages get all angsty if u aren't sub

[nimble jasper]

i mean those are the mages that cant sheep without stuns first

which again is an annoying part, you dont find good mages until at least 2.2

imo

[sharp meteor]

actually tho like they won't even try to go for it if there's a chance it could be stopped which is

can be fine i guess

[nimble jasper]

also like

[sharp meteor]

poly dps, repoly dispel, i kidney kt, they shimmer db healer

[nimble jasper]

ngl after playing with good healers it can kind of get annoying

how non aggro

lfg ones are

[sharp meteor]

or get free poly

yeah playing conservatively with lfg is usually the play

[nimble jasper]

but then even still its like

priests who dont fear off incaps

or go for mg when double cc is out

[sharp meteor]

ah yes

that's why is handy to get on same page a few seconds ahead of time sometimes people jsut need a bit of structure

i fear next i fear next dont use etc

[nimble jasper]

yeah i mean some are pretty obvious

like i swear rogue priest 2s is hella scripted

fear offtarget kidney mg kill target

etc

i played that char with some rsham startof seas and every bm hpriest team was free pts

[sharp meteor]

i rly wanted to just slam out duelist in one sitting on my alt hunter so i grabbed the frirst hpriest i saw and said hey buddy chastise kill target off cd and that's it maybe fear off trap but otherwise just sit there and spam dam

[nimble jasper]

hunter gets knocked out by dwayne every game

stunned into hex

[sharp meteor]

he kept apologizing because he'd get gaped by assa but he never pvp'd before

[nimble jasper]

gaspedal his priest

dead in 2 stuns

[sharp meteor]

maybe belf with glasses

[nimble jasper]

had to carry ret friend who came back to 1.8 in 3s

only reason healer actually q’ed was cuz we’re all long ass friends

legit tell this guy you’re gonna die and doesnt press shit

was playing monk since all we had to do was get healer trinket and ill just global him once I get a proc since rat league teams dont peel.

[gloomy dock]

Gonna be ez let's 3s next season lmao

I can probably find us a healer

[sharp meteor]

queuing with my healer to duelist on his alt warr and he's like friend i will send banner and u kill them

we figured out this epic strat where we open with hoj/bolt and he warbreakers

they panic use shit

and then i seraphim/wings and he conq banners second set of stuns

[nimble jasper]

yeah thats the thing at those ratings

[sharp meteor]

and they died every single time

[nimble jasper]

if you double cc them and use even minor cds

you'll get panic trinkets

[sharp meteor]

it's like the reliable way that i help people get duelist

first bolt/warbringer is bait

[nimble jasper]

as my friend said when he queues any alt that isnt orc

"dying in 7 sec kidneys never looked so good"

[sharp meteor]

if i send everything and they peel it i sometimes have to sit there for an extra minute or two to kill them

yeah ds kidneys feelin bad

[nimble jasper]

I mean at low mmr theres the hidden buff vs sub teams

where they might be bad and gap stun cuz orc

[sharp meteor]

i still feel bad about this one game where i run up on ramp in blades edge vs like an assa/rsham and my cat attacks my keyboard

so i fumble around for a minute trying to get her under control and when i get into game the rogue had trinketed my healers cc?

so i parry, send everything and 2-tap him in a bolt then flag him

and he sent a wall of text life story

[nimble jasper]

lol i ran into a necro war ww team once when helping him

[sharp meteor]

i unbound flag after that

[nimble jasper]

they insta banner bonedust when im feared with priest in stun

told him bub insta

man just flops

xd

[sharp meteor]

yeah if u can break down what's going to happen like

hey buddy here comes the sweep wait for the bonedust then use stuff

[nimble jasper]

thats also a thing tbh

sometimes when you just do a giant aggro go off the bat

you can kill opener

[near inlet]

Execute charges you to targets up to 15 yards away. This effect has a 6 sec cooldown

Death sentence talent nerfed

[fickle forge]

Took them long enough

[sharp meteor]

Kind of hope they add a debuff that displays the CD on the charge

[fickle forge]

Would be nice, but it doesn't matter too much

[topaz ether]

Where do I guys see death sentence nerf at

[raw summit]

Wowhead

[sharp meteor]

It's live on the PTR. Haven't fully tested yet, though.

[topaz ether]

@raw summit got a link? I didn’t see it on wow head just a Reddit post

[sharp meteor]

Idk but in updates they just see if text changed and they updated the tooltip for Death Sentence which prompted the whole inquiry

I need to test tomorrow to make sure non-charge executes don't proc it or anything dumb like that

[topaz ether]

Yea I feel in 2’s is where u will notice it most

3’s not as much

But gonna make getting kited a little rough at times on kill attempts

[raw summit]

SD dash into exe dash gone

Even as non Venth it hurts

[sharp meteor]

it felt nice when you did play it

just ooga booga somebody into the dirt

[raw summit]

Yea

I picked it into hunters and mages and sometimes just got the lucky dash>crit>win

Very fun Talent

[undone pumice]

death sentence is kill?

[raw summit]

Where were u when death sentance die?

Excuse language englis arent my first language

I was at home eating burgir, phone Ring

"death sentance is kil"

"no"

[undone pumice]

shit game

dont get to press 1 button and have a free gap closer, damage, damage reduction

[raw summit]

And tactician proc

[undone pumice]

what is tactivian

only execute

kverpower not in action bar

[raw summit]

[undone pumice]

anyway have been thinking about gettin back into fame for pvp what has changed since 9.1

nothing right

except ds is kill

[sharp meteor]

idk what has changed since patch

besides a billion edgy weebs and their feathery fursuits popping up

[spice hornet]

death sentence nerf is an indirect buff to bm players

[elder wigeon]

something tells me the times it bugs out and doesn't charge you but hits them from range will trigger the ICD

dead pvp talent, so sad

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I saw it. Will need to tinker with it just to be sure.

Or yuo point blank execute and then it puts it on CD

I mostly just liked it for bgs

[elder wigeon]

it's useful vs caster cleaves

[fleet ivy]

Guys what stats i want on my legendary ? necro one helm

[fleet ivy]

haste or crit ?

[fierce elm]

personal preference

[urban jolt]

@bitter lantern

[spare rover]

probably the funniest talent to play
rip

[grand scaffold]

DEATH SENTENCE NERFED!?!? 😦

oof

[elder wigeon]

yup

[grand scaffold]

im not running that anymore

so sad tho

was nice to not get kited during that window

when does that go live?

9.2?

at least it wont make a diff for fury

execute got a cd anyway

[elder wigeon]

9.2 yes

i've heard it's ~3 weeks out

[grand scaffold]

wow

is arms still gonna be meta spec

fury set bonus looks really good

for keeping mortal strike stacks yp

up*

[elder wigeon]

arms will still be meta yes

but less meta I think

so many other things are ridiculous

[grand scaffold]

yea

idk

would be nice to see if fury was on par with arms

[raw summit]

Every spec has ups and downs

[warped warren]

only used vs monks anyways

[warped warren]

for arms only

[grand scaffold]

well

i mean

fury cant run it

because other things are better anyway

OOF

https://tenor.com/view/rage-red-stocks-crash-stocks-crashing-downwards-gif-17056650

condemn is now

worse than before

completely

[tranquil hemlock]

I’ll be playing unhinged with both specs

[elder wigeon]

yeah, condemn is extra dead now

[fleet ivy]

guys i 210 itlv and dont have conquest , need to farm it but cant play 2v 3v with my gear , what can i do ?

[raw summit]

Comp stomp

Honor gear to Max

And just queue

[fleet ivy]

should i buy the blue honor gear ?

[fickle forge]

Imagine if they fixed the bug though

[elder wigeon]

kekw

imagine if they fixed something

[fickle forge]

If exe would reliably charge you, I'd almost call it a buff even with the CD

[warped warren]

yesnt

[grand scaffold]

fury getting better next patch tho

20% chance to get recklessness of raging blow

imagine that

with reckless abandon

you cant get kited then

btw

is reckless defense good for fury

a lower cd enraged regen seems good on paper with how squishy fury is

[raw summit]

Doesnt work that way

The procs from tier dont empower the rb

But they give you 50 rage which isnt bad

[grand scaffold]

i mean

that kinda sucks we dont get reckless abandon

but

still strong

with angermanagement

would get high uptime

but still could reckless defense be god

good*

[fleet ivy]

best way to farm conquest with low gear ?

[grand scaffold]

probably send conquest boxes over

and just play arena

[elder wigeon]

i concur

[grand scaffold]

ok

whats your opinion

[fickle forge]

That means he agrees

[grand scaffold]

yeah mb

im just tired

lmao

[fleet ivy]

its my first character

i cant send conquest boxes 😦

and need to farm conquest

[grand scaffold]

oh ok

then hmm

maybe do korthia for the gear

that can get you to like 220

then after that

spam regular bg's

and honor gear

then arena

arena is fine at like 233

ish

[scarlet barn]

lol no dont go for honor gear

Waste of honor

[grand scaffold]

ok

then what

[opaque kindle]

This week is a great week to farm honor gear with Comp Stomp, sub 5 minute games for 400-500 honor - but i reccomend just getting a set of crafted 200 peices and hopping into 2s/3s and farm conquest

[scarlet barn]

do all daily activits, daily Random bg win, Epic bg win, Arena skrimis and bralwl

That should be quick per day

[opaque kindle]

^^

that as well

[scarlet barn]

And then well potentially you can farm in Rated bgs

some low level groups prob still exist

damn bad mention

@fleet ivy

i meant to ping oyu

[opaque kindle]

RBGS are easier to get in this week because of the weekly quest, lots of yolo groups that legit dont care about winning just for the weekly

[fickle forge]

Grinding rated brackets is still your best option then.
I'd buy boxes until you have a couple pieces, primarily the expensive ones, and then begin to target individual ones

[scarlet barn]

That would be good tactic if he didnt need some starting rating for it first

[opaque kindle]

@grand scaffold there are lots of Rated communities too out there that are very helpful, when i joined one 2 weeks ago i had a few people take me under and really help push some rating, went from almost 0 pvp exp to sitting rival on 3 toons

[grand scaffold]

is that like

a carry

[scarlet barn]

You should be familiar with taht already though

anyway

[fickle forge]

1400 should be doable if he has at least some PvP experience

[grand scaffold]

I DIDNT BUY A CARRY
W

[scarlet barn]

@fleet ivy

[grand scaffold]

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT

[scarlet barn]

If you want

[grand scaffold]

SHEESH

[scarlet barn]

just push 1400

random pieces are less expensive than targetting them

and as karg said yea

then aim for specific

[opaque kindle]

no buying a carry, 1400 is basically free as long as you win games you cant lose rating up to around 1400 ish

[scarlet barn]

I didnt say 1400 to carry

[fickle forge]

It's funny cause 1350-1400 is supposedly when you're average

[scarlet barn]

I said it in context of other occurence here

🙃

[opaque kindle]

i know, i just think he may have read it that way lol

[scarlet barn]

Nah i think he understood very well

Hence the reaction

[grand scaffold]

breh

i didnt buy a carry

get used to it

im too broke

[opaque kindle]

no one is saying you did

[scarlet barn]

And I never said you bought carry

I said you got carried

🙃

[grand scaffold]

thats the same thing basically

[scarlet barn]

Well

[grand scaffold]

i didnt get carried either way

[scarlet barn]

One is with money

Other out of pity

[grand scaffold]

man

wtf is wrong with you

cant be happy for somebody else

i didnt get carried

[opaque kindle]

i was just stating that you can find communities ( in game) to get help ( Not paying for help )

[grand scaffold]

yeah thats cool

[scarlet barn]

For sure

[grand scaffold]

im just saying what razonko said

is bs

[opaque kindle]

thats what i did and i went from 0-1880 ish in like 2 weeks

[grand scaffold]

thats cool

on what toon

[grand light]

Carried

[scarlet barn]

🙃

[fickle forge]

That would still be a straight up boost though

[scarlet barn]

Rocket launch

[opaque kindle]

I mean, call it what you want, about 40 different teammates i played with, varrying comps, just people who were out to help

[scarlet barn]

Thats fine

[grand scaffold]

good for you

[fickle forge]

All from the same community?

[grand scaffold]

glad you got 1880

thats nice

[scarlet barn]

Rbgs are meme anyway

[opaque kindle]

all from the same community

[scarlet barn]

Only serve to get honor/conquest

[fickle forge]

Wait this is RBG?

Ah yeah nvm then

[opaque kindle]

no

2s lol

my win/loss ratio would probably make people sad

[scarlet barn]

You are learning ?

[grand scaffold]

what was it

[opaque kindle]

Very much learning, im still trash lol

[fickle forge]

That's kinda weird that you played with 40 different helpers though

Most other people would call that LFG

[scarlet barn]

If i could get that many people in lfg lol

I would not think that game is dying

[fickle forge]

Ally

[opaque kindle]

I mean it basically is LFG, just centered around learning and the community

[scarlet barn]

Thats fair

[fickle forge]

That is essentially LFG though

[scarlet barn]

as long as you actually learn

[fickle forge]

So you did push it on your own

[opaque kindle]

yes lol

[scarlet barn]

Then aaaaaaaaaaaaalll good

[opaque kindle]

im just implying that the community helped me find people who were willing to help people learn, since actual LFG for me ( my experiences ) 1 loss = insta leave

[scarlet barn]

Yeah that is actually quite nice to have

@fleet ivybtw did you get all info you asked for ?

[fleet ivy]

ye guuys ty 😄

[grand scaffold]

is the set bonus on pvp gear?

[languid swift]

Is comp stomp the pve/pvp hybrid? How do you join a game for it?

[full quiver]

It's the weekly brawl

[pastel basalt]

how important is a 255 pvp weapon if i already have a 259 jaithys and 30% vers? should i still get the 255 pvp weapon?

[grand scaffold]

jaithis is better

[pastel basalt]

Thank you

[fleet ivy]

guys in what order should i buy the conquest gear ? weapon and trinkets first ?

[zealous heath]

why am I hardstuck 1900 with my war when I just blasted through that with my monk

[grand scaffold]

in what bracket

[mild pier]

I usually buy the cheap stuff first and hope for the more expensive items in the vault

[fleet ivy]

not worth to buy first the weapon ?

[raw summit]

highroll wep in boxes

or vault

[scarlet barn]

That is very sad gamble sometimes

You only really gamble on weapon though

Since that is biggest conquest/honor sink

[mild pier]

Yeah basically

[scarlet barn]

Karg tried it and didnt have weapon for weeks

kek

@fickle forge

[mild pier]

Yeah that happens to most people lol. I've been getting lucky though

[scarlet barn]

I wish consistent luck upon you then

[mild pier]

Now I'll never get a vault wep again

[fickle forge]

Tfw I didn't have a weapon for 14 weeks or so

And then I got weapon 3 weeks in a row when I finally had bought it

[fleet ivy]

but boxes are worth ? we dont want only de crit / vers pieces ? the boxes can give us mastery ones

[urban jolt]

Just loot it

[fierce elm]

Boxes are worth, secondaries outside of vers do not matter

[scarlet barn]

and all pvp items have versa so...

[warped warren]

ive looted 3 already 😪

[sharp meteor]

opening three crates on an alt and getting the crit/mastery cloak 💀

[full quiver]

i was gearing up survival hunter, accidentally left loot specialization on MM. got weapon in 3rd crate

took me about 40 more crates to get a polearm after i swapped it to survival lol]

[sharp meteor]

god why can't phial cd tick down while in combat

[fickle forge]

Nah nah that'd be busted man

Fleshcrafter users would find it unfair

[full quiver]

or atleast reset if you drop combat

but i guess that'd be a buff to kyrian rogue next patch lol

[spice hornet]

😂

[inner wigeon]

just checking on on leggos for 9.2

i've got EM already

are we gonna be able to do double in 9.2?

[mild pier]

Is there anywhere we can see the 9.2 elite weapons or illusion? Can't find that shit anywhere

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, PTR.

I'd post them but it's like 20 different weps again lmao

sword is yuge

illusion looks like that yellow thing the last boss in tazavesh does

[mild pier]

Shitttttt

That's dope though

[mild pier]

Holy fuck

[raw summit]

thats uh

[mild pier]

Is that the illusion or just the standard model?

[raw summit]

Like an uncut fork

Standard Model

[mild pier]

Wild

[hidden kettle]

prot in pvp is wild af

[plain wing]

what does the elite set look like in 9.2

[hidden kettle]

i was tanking some rbgs the otherday and i couldnt be killed at all

[sharp meteor]

[mild pier]

Those shoulders man

Looks like a highschool class ring

[full quiver]

lol

it does doesn't it

[balmy goblet]

Is that the pvp set of next season?

[lucid walrus]

yh

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, that's the warrior elite set.

[mild pier]

Hoping next xpac brings some banging sets again

[balmy goblet]

Elite is that some rbg stuff or? (Sorry kinda new to retail)

Or just conquest set from arena etc

[mild pier]

1800 in rated pvp will get you the elite set.

It's basically a recolored version of the conquest set with some effects on it

[balmy goblet]

Oh cool! Thx 🙂

[sharp meteor]

It's a recolor of the mythic set.

[spice hornet]

has anyone lost a comp stomp before

ive had one where the bots got 800 points

[sharp meteor]

yes on alliance when it first came out

[fierce elm]

KEK

[sharp meteor]

the whole team was in agreement that the enemy team was scripting

i stepped out to fix food and came back to a defeat

[spice hornet]

Nooo way

Lmao

[spice hornet]

should we just stop qing

if all we fight

is holy rmp

as ret war

love having to fight this guys rmp just for my 2700! crazy how good he is for being new to the game this season :))) https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Aftrimg

[sharp meteor]

huh those are some vintage goggles

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor i dont know what to say about that set hahahaha

kind of looks like questing gear 🤔

[sharp meteor]

one day they'll top the legion elite sets

i am just happy we got class sets back even if the cosmic theme kind of iffy

[plain wing]

yep one step back in the right direction

hopefully the tier sets next xpac are absolute bangers

aside from the aquaman leg graphics (that chainmail lol) am I the only one that really likes this seasons elite set? Think it looks super good

I like the color of it - reminds me of ICC days

[sharp meteor]

yeah have been using it because kyrian and my favorite sets are red

and don't really match the spear

[full quiver]

yeah i think they're awesome

the set + elite sword looks like LOTR shit lol

got the wintersfury santa enchant on it and it looks so cool

[plain wing]

yea I wish I was able to get that 2100 sword 😦

looks so good

maybe next season ill be able to get 2100

[full quiver]

just play like 1000 games and you'll get it

[plain wing]

I think im hurting myself going back and forth between pvp and pve too... did some m+ last night and realized the order of buttons is completely different so when I went back to pvp I was tripping over my feet

and diff rotation priorities etc

[full quiver]

i haven't done any pve on war so idk

[plain wing]

like prioritizing OP in some circumstances over MS and Execute etc..... in pvp when I see execute is usable I mash it... def not the move in pve hahah

but yea 2100 sword is sooooo sick. Straight LotR shit for real

[full quiver]

yeah looks like sauron lol

[sharp meteor]

usually kind of hard to recover if somebody gets into massacre range

[mild pier]

I wish I didn’t completely suck at pvp back then. Still the best elite sets in game

[sharp meteor]

same the drakes were so good

[mild pier]

Oh my god

[sharp meteor]

woddlings were still my favorite

[mild pier]

Literally the best glad mounts

[sharp meteor]

everybody i know who has one won't use it

[mild pier]

I really like the panda ones as well

Should’ve had lightning on them though

[sharp meteor]

yee

one of my healers has his wife address him as gladiator bring back percentage based titles idc if i never get it again

[mild pier]

How did percentage base work?

[sharp meteor]

top 0.5% 3v3 on season end get a dragon two weeks later

[mild pier]

Woah

[sharp meteor]

50 wins above 2400 in 7-10 months seasons is kind of

moderately free

[mild pier]

Yeah I think the 2400 50 wins is fine if the seasons were shorter

[sharp meteor]

yeah

[mild pier]

Like the patch cycle is soooo damn long

[sharp meteor]

because in short enough season 50 wins above 2400 could easily be top 0.5% or even less

[mild pier]

Yeah prob. Gotta push for glad next season. I feel like if I can hit duelist in a month I can get glad in 8 lmao

[sharp meteor]

yeah for sure

[twilit flax]

Next season gunna be a year at least lol

[sharp meteor]

i really wish they'd split this final tier into two seasons

[twilit flax]

woulda been a good move

[mild pier]

Probably almost a year yeah lol

I feel like next xpac will drop late November early December if we’re lucky

[sharp meteor]

black pvp tabard gone forever, all because some intern messed up and couldn't match the color coded cosmetics

green dragon and yellow one too

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326727004445605898/918527432745697280/sadstab.gif

[plain wing]

someone be my responsible parent and tell me to farm rifts tonight for upgraded conduits 💀

haha help.

im like the lowest tier of rep

are there groups in LFG or how does it even work

[elder wigeon]

Yes there’s groups in the custom pve lfg

[sharp meteor]

always rift groups going yeah

idk what people doing these days but when i did it we'd just enter rift in korthia, wormhole up (1 shadowlands engi) then do a bit of a circuit and get like 5000-8000 research per run aafter ur done with rep stuff

and could do 4 of those per hour

[plain wing]

like once I get in the rift do i just follow the group

[sharp meteor]

the other thing was to go to that one north-western spot where there's a high concentration of stuff pull it all then phase hop and do it again

[plain wing]

or do my own thing to maximize rep

[sharp meteor]

generally stick with group

or tag stuff and bring to group

[plain wing]

i donnt think I even have rifts unlocked on the warrior

[sharp meteor]

ur killing the big tornados that look like the ksm mounts

[plain wing]

you mainly just run to chests and shit right?

[sharp meteor]

chests?

[plain wing]

in the rifts yae

theres chests that give a boat load of rep

in predetermined locations

treasure chests

[sharp meteor]

that's above my pay grade sir i just farm tornado mobs for research for an afternoon or two and im done on that char/spec

[plain wing]

yea that seems the fastest

u right

do u do the main rep quests for unlocks

or just literally farm rifts

[mild pier]

This is the way

[spice hornet]

soooo sick of rmx man

wwwwwwwwwwwwww

[sharp meteor]

feed me rmx

can't deal with kitty

[spice hornet]

its like the same comp

[sharp meteor]

or retwarr

warr cleaves in general

shambles

[spice hornet]

2.9 rated rmps gate keeping my 2700

[full quiver]

u playin with rdruid?

[sharp meteor]

kyrian with rdruid, necro with mw

[full quiver]

wtf

lol

with spear w/ rdruid

[sharp meteor]

the latter is specifically to eat shadow priests

[full quiver]

why*

[sharp meteor]

they just fade spear

[full quiver]

no

i mean why play kyrian warrior as kitty cleave

necro link with kyrian feral so good

[sharp meteor]

i only play turbo

[full quiver]

oooh

thought you meant you played kitty when you said can't deal w/ kitty lol

[sharp meteor]

nah just hard as necro + mw because no spear

and mw just kind of

flops

need to queue into it more and tighten things up

kitty go is like rm where they cross and

instantly 15-30k dam in like that first global

[elder wigeon]

https://twitter.com/Revololwarrior/status/1486363319405629442?s=20

Revo 🤬 (@Revololwarrior)

The year is 2025. Shadowlands s2 still hasn’t ended. Every 3s game is a boomy/dh mirror. “At least next week is comp stomp” you say to yourself as you head to korthia on your 16th alt boomkin

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 3:40 PM

[sharp meteor]

minding it less now although in general the damage is like what who greenlit this

it's like one of those twink bracket things where one spec just hits 40% harder and it's like okay team we can play around this

[spice hornet]

Lolol

lotta necro warr kyrian ferals that just run in pop everything including parry trynna gib in opener with a 40k execute proc

[elder wigeon]

also true

[sharp meteor]

unironically how it goes if you get an execute proc

like i fish for one prior to spearing somebody and it's like hey maybe kill

then get another right after i use mine

ho ho ho 20k into 20k

[elder wigeon]

Yeah I've done that a few times

lucky proc in the opener with a lucky crit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqPY-8qOl18

[sharp meteor]

also enduring proc prior

bonk

and yep that's how it goes

that's how about a third of our dhboom games go

[full quiver]

@elder wigeon wtf do u guys do vs ret/war

[elder wigeon]

as kitty?

[full quiver]

cause we're playing with rsham too and he just gets eaten

yeah

i usually duel their banner portion of wings and disarm on warbreaker

intervene on HoJ or big dam

[elder wigeon]

your feral needs to be cracked at peeling with roots, it's almost impossible to win if it's vs a rdruid because you can't train a rdruid as kitty

[full quiver]

so all the insta casts are roots i guess between freedoms

[elder wigeon]

so basically what I do and my feral is peel and off heal and disrupt their go with clones etc and we swap a lot if it's rdru

[sharp meteor]

queuing into r1 jungle alt team and the feral is coked out of his mind with peels and offheals 💀

[full quiver]

does he spam DR clone on ret during wings?

[elder wigeon]

it's an option

[full quiver]

if you have any full game footage that'd be sick

[elder wigeon]

most rets now are necrolord, you have the option of dueling, disarming, fearing etc

[full quiver]

cause it's the only comp we're struggling with

[elder wigeon]

you target the warrior with the fear, fear the ret so he's walking away from your healer

your feral can even hard cast a root on the ret off the fear or even another clone

you have a lot of tools at your disposal

once the damage is over then it's really your turn to do what you want

[full quiver]

The fear tip is a good idea. I had been fearing ret

[elder wigeon]

always fear the target you don't actually need to be feared, it has a smaller threshold and they don't move

you have no option vs a fire mage generally though

[sharp meteor]

yeah can't be too picky with fire

if pugging just say you'll fear bust don't use/hit

[elder wigeon]

yeah fear doesn't clear any dots so it will break if there's any

suuuuper annoying how small the threshold is it seems

makes me consider running cacophonous roar

[sharp meteor]

my sham bout to get a clutch hex so i cancel sweeping then dreadnaught breaks it 💀

yeah i lovin the cdr on piercing but have wondered about roar

[elder wigeon]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

i wonder if i should have inspiring slotted in somewhere but i feel like if rally isn't enough then that little bit extra wouldn't have fixed it

so the cdr/reach of piercing is nice

as is leeway on roar

especially on kitty i imagine where stuff is bled up

[spice hornet]

reee

ele vesper memeing

insta charge MS his vesper he put in africa but it lives with 3 hp

so he moves it and kills my partner with a 60k

nice

[sharp meteor]

LOL literally same the other day

highstakes or w/e?

[full quiver]

I had that same shit on dh

[sharp meteor]

we killed them like 4 times in a row because the shaman just actually doesn't function if u scuff his vesper totem go

then we leave the totem at 4 hp because we thought it

[full quiver]

Killed my buddy with like 300 hp on totem ledt

[sharp meteor]

u know how totem has that fade out period

where u kill it

was fraction of a percent so thought it was dead

aaaa

[plain wing]

is duel ever worth taking in 2s?

[sharp meteor]

if it's something u suspect will go ur teammate i suppose

[plain wing]

mainly just 3s tho?

cool

[sharp meteor]

50% reduced dam to anybody but u so if they're playing something that can't really swap then it basically scuffs the whole go

[full quiver]

I always take it vs ret in 2s

[elder wigeon]

duel is all fun and games until they swap you and 50-0 you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339609477517017088/935749997163610152/unknown.png what my ret did to me yesterday doing some wargames for fun

i dueled him, his warrior disarmed me offensively, and i trinketed to parry as soon as I saw the damage but I wasn't expecting the 180 no scope

[sharp meteor]

yep

gotta be ready to parry or leap

i remember intiailly being like wow this is a cheat code but some comps aren't deterred and in fact swap almost instantly

[elder wigeon]

yup

duel is really strong if you use it and deny the ability to connect but I was cocky and paid the price

[sharp meteor]

can feel super good if they aren't able to swap for whatever reason though like they commited stuff onto the target

also trying to think of who else i play kleia into it seems like vial is a save for my teammate once

3m cd starts when u leave combat ree

[craggy socket]

Hey guys what lego is best for LFR?

errr LFG* thanks

[elder wigeon]

as what covenant?

i assume you mean for non kyrian and the two you need are enduring blow and mirror

if you're kyrian you only play elysian might

[pale minnow]

@elder wigeon what cr u playing in?

[sharp meteor]

elysian might if kyrian and enduring blows + mirror for necro as enu said, maybe sephuz or unhinged for necro

i only play mirror/enduring on necro

[elder wigeon]

2.9-3k

[grand scaffold]

is enduring or unhinged stronger for kyrian next patch?

[plain wing]

bruh im tired of facing fucking hunters

im 1800 cr

and i cant even hit them

holy priest bm hunter

what the fuck do i do

im so fucking tilted

[grand scaffold]

focus the hpriest

they so squishy

just leave the hunter

[plain wing]

ok

[grand scaffold]

and use cd's properly

hpriest dies like ez pz

if its with an rdru

focus the hunter

a

and swap occasionally

make sure you dont open using charge

just get close and do your rotation when he disengages charge him

when he root breaks stun him

maintain slows

if its a surv hunter

well thats an oof

i dont have a counter to it

[thick reef]

@elder wigeon what’s your armory link? 🙂

[elder wigeon]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Thrall/Enutwo

[sharp meteor]

uh i think it'll depend on matchup

[craggy socket]

So necro is the go to spec for warrior now?

[sharp meteor]

i am excited for unhinged

[craggy socket]

No kyrian?

Im a brand new to warrior

[sharp meteor]

they are both excellent

[craggy socket]

whats easier to pick up and play with randoms?

[plain wing]

yea this is tilting as FUCK

FUCK THIS GAME

ret warrior in 2s

[sharp meteor]

either of them, although i guess you can't really get juked on conq banner

[plain wing]

like what jthe actual fuck.

[craggy socket]

Okay so maybe ill try necro then

[thick reef]

Bruin, are you playing Ret/war or saying that Ret/war is bust haha

[plain wing]

i am with a holy pally

played a ret warrior

in 2s

and im fucking triggered

[craggy socket]

Ret/Warr in 2s isnt anything special its easy to beat

[plain wing]

who do i go in hpriest ele sham

i mean

i couldnt do shit

[craggy socket]

Warrior is super strong lol

[plain wing]

we just got destroyed

[sharp meteor]

spear is just easy to whiff if you're trying to pin multiple people unless they're cc'd

[plain wing]

fuck this

actually over it

fuck warrior ret

[craggy socket]

Try Hunter lol xD

[thick reef]

Bruin are you playing warrior with hpala then yeah?

@elder wigeon thanks for sharing dude! Amazing xp! I’m a 2.5 rogue levelling my warrior right now. Correct me if I’m wrong but is necro best for 2s? Also, is the stat priority haste/versa just for necro?

[plain wing]

yep lost to ele sham and h priest

inm done

WDF JIKOPJIL;WEghjkp2E3FBNHIP JLQW@EGHUKqwevh uikwsdv l"HV QWHBJNK

[sharp meteor]

Uh, strength of various stats feels to kind of shift by matchup/comp.

I've seen basically every variation.

[plain wing]

how the fuck do i lose to ele sham and h priest.

how.

how.

w

ef;]egr;'

[craggy socket]

You need to calm down

[sharp meteor]

Idk sometimes that's just how it be

[craggy socket]

Thats why you are losing ive been there

[sharp meteor]

They lasso you, chastise healer into fear

[plain wing]

not at all

[sharp meteor]

cycle through stuff

[plain wing]

i just cant do shit

my healer is cc'd all fucking game

[sharp meteor]

I feel like that can't kill you for a long time

[elder wigeon]

right now I'm liking Vers > haste >=crit > mastery

[plain wing]

and im fucking stuck at 1800 cr with inflation

like a fucking tard

[craggy socket]

1800 is 1800 lol

[elder wigeon]

I don't think necro is the best in 2's but is better situationally

[plain wing]

yea its a joke

[craggy socket]

Watch some streamers and practice

[plain wing]

bro i do

and i just dont get better

[sharp meteor]

Watching people play games

[plain wing]

fyucking tilted at this game

[craggy socket]

Try another spec

Took me a few seasons to get the hang of mage

aint no glad but around 2.1 now

[plain wing]

what do u do vs frost mage balance druid

like

prio target

[pale minnow]

Quite easy to outplay shamman have omnibar and predict lasso with bladestorm/ spellreflect/ banner/ use deff cd when he pops stormkeeper or kite with deffstance on and u just pve it without a sweat

[sharp meteor]

Just think less and hit stuff

[plain wing]

BOR LKW;JEF L;KWJKL;EFGVJIKLWV JILWE

What the fuck is this game

just dying immediately from resto havoc

like

how do you do this shit

how

what is this

[thick reef]

Bruin maybe you need to take a little break. You’ve got more rage IRL than rage being generated in game xD

[craggy socket]

Yikes

Deep breath lol

[thick reef]

I’ve only ever played rogue before but kinda hoping I can get used to the slower pace of warrior but worried I may not be able too :/

[plain wing]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GMAE

[pale minnow]

@plain wing give it all out, your doing well! rage like a warrior that's how it should be, there is nothing wrong about it

[plain wing]

ALKFJL;AKWJF MOI[MWE34LGHJLW34RGH JIW3GVB

HIOLY FYUCK

monk rogue

im cc'd the whole game

evlery go

he is at exeucte

and i get full fucking kidney'd

oh

incap

oh disarmed

[sharp meteor]

hm

[plain wing]

WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO

I CANT PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

hoenstly what do i do

hje has disarm every go

he has kidney

[pale minnow]

You can do it dude

[plain wing]

he was at 5% hp for fucking a full kidney

i dont know what the fuck to do

[pale minnow]

Kill the pussy class

[thick reef]

Bruin what CR are you

[pale minnow]

That's all u gotta do

He said it above

[plain wing]

1800

every fucking go

he had kidney

disarm

incap

like i cant do shit

its fucking infurating

WHAT THE ACTUAL FYUCK

[thick reef]

Maybe it’s your healer? Shouldn’t be hard stuck at 1800 especially not by a rogue at 1800

[plain wing]

bro

i couldnt do dam

anytime i had pressure

he'd disar me

or kidney me

or incap me

our gouge

or blind

and i just sit there

[sharp meteor]

idk then gg go next

[pale minnow]

U can berserker rage incap

[sharp meteor]

stop getting tilted 💀

[pale minnow]

Let him dude, he has all the right to do it

It's more stress release when he can say it in public it's good for him

[thick reef]

If he’s tilted at 1800 then he will never progress, being tilted it not the way to “improve”

[plain wing]

its fucking infuraiting idk what to do when im hard cc'd everytime i do any pressure

and this is against not even good players (1800)

[sharp meteor]

just have some tea and put on chill beats idk 💀

spitball what you could be doing better instead of pointlessly frothing

[plain wing]

i don tknow...

i couldnt do anything

[sharp meteor]

if u don't know then spitball and try different stuff

[plain wing]

he was combat

so he had a shutdown foir every go

gouge, kidney, disarm, blind, incap from his monk healer

evasion

[sharp meteor]

and slow down everybody tries to do stuff too quickly and it's just not ideal until you know what you're pressing and why

[thick reef]

I mean if it’s hard stuck on 1800 and your on US, you’d be 1500 on EU haha

[sharp meteor]

ah yes he'd be lower on the more inflated ladder

[thick reef]

EU is much harder vs US that’s a fact

[plain wing]

i just genuinely couldnt do anythning

its so fucking tilting

how do you keep a level head

when you cant even fucking play the game

[pale minnow]

U will be able matter of time dud

[sharp meteor]

i stop playing 2v2 around the point where people aren't dead on the second warbreaker

[plain wing]

I just get shut down completely

and kited

fucking get my ass kicked over and over and over and over

[pale minnow]

I would suggest Blizz to remove pillars after 10 min of arena game, cuz it's a joke that some garbadge classes can cheese the game with their stealth ability, or kite

[sharp meteor]

rofl no

[plain wing]

i jsut dont learn anything

i just get so fucking tilted

and my cd's always get misaligned

meaning im not doing that right either

[sharp meteor]

then teach yourself to learn

[plain wing]

just so fucking tilted. I wanna be good at pvp but just dont feel cut out for it.

like i was doing 3s with a 235 ilvl dk with s1 gear

and he was doing so much more dam than me

i just suck man

fucking tilting when i get perma cc'd

[sharp meteor]

yeah my poor shaman can't do damage on warrior for some reason

or at least he doesn't think he can

[plain wing]

and i just tunnel my fucking abilities not doing optimal damage

fucking over it man

jesus its frustrating.

like no shit i do shit damage when i go into m+ cuz my rotation is so fucked up.

[pale minnow]

@plain wing a good advice for you dude, use bladestorm right after u used warbreaker

[plain wing]

hats off to those that can actually get good at pvp

and not tilt

like being good at pvp is a fucking magic art to me

i just get cucked all nighjt long

[pale minnow]

Everyone starts like this no worries

[plain wing]

ive been playing the game for like 10 years

mainly pve

its just like im not doing enough damage

for my 252 ilvl

i just dont get better at pvp

and i tunnel and just dont hit the right buttons idk.

fucking infuriating

end rant. Just frustrated.

[pale minnow]

I mean practice will help you, the more u do it the better

Get addons, go check out skillcapped on youtube it will help you with what u need

Go to the gym releasethe stress and go back at it

[grand scaffold]

@plain wing if you against most casters in 2's

you gotta focus them

cant let them freecast

or else you lose big time

what comps are you struggling against

and what cov are you

and also

probably dont play with an hpal

basically worst healer for warr

play with a rdru or rsham

mw if you cant find either of those

another thing to practice is duels against warriors

helps you learn what you do wrong

[twilit ridge]

[safe pecan]

I promise it can take literally a lot lot of arenas to get good

[soft canyon]

is there any way to counter a necro pally + necro arms warr? I legit disarm the warbreaker, fear the wings, then duel the wings, keep harmstring as long as i can, intervene, rallying cry with the pvp talent, and my healer still gets 1 shot by a massive templars verdict + divine storm and execute by arms. And its not like hes doing nothing either. This comp just bursts for 20 secs

[elder wigeon]

only use your stops when he has the stacks not when he pops wings

track the gavel stacks not wings

[soft canyon]

stupid question

what the hell is gravel

oh the lego

does it give him a buff? or track when he throws the hammer?

[elder wigeon]

it gives him a buff with two stacks

he has two charges of the gavel