Wait does disarm stop them from using defensives?
#pvp
mild pier
sharp meteor
ah yes pre the synced cc on both of you
nimble jasper
you cant deathstrike
sharp meteor
Wait does disarm stop them from using defensives?
death strike is their defensive
full quiver
u can't parry while disarmed
sharp meteor
which if u sharpen is shit
mild pier
That's true...
full quiver
and u can't death strike while disarmed
mild pier
Simple as fuck lmao
nimble jasper
sub 2.1 rogue mages dont sync their cc
tbh
they’re just monkeys usually where the mage cant land a poly without a pre cheap
full quiver
u sharpen them around 50% hit em down to 30 then disarm and uhdk in big trouble
did that last night, his healer comes in to link. spear them both
lmao
nimble jasper
lol gotta love those situations
people just shit the bed when you cc both targets in a go
at low mmr
full quiver
yeah
feels like u can just go healer vs most teams, it'll pull their dps in, then you get free double spears all game
sharp meteor
spearing the boomie dh and rsham 👌
nimble jasper
necro dh rsham
full quiver
they just train my boostee into the ground lol
full quiver
yeah idk what to do vs that though
if you go their healer you lose
if you go DH it's like 50/50
have to bait blur
nimble jasper
going dh is bad imo due to cleave
full quiver
then get a one shot with warbringer, sharpen, execute
nimble jasper
and dwayne meatballs
worst is carrying some healer and guy runs into rsham line
with a dh on him
instead of ducking behind los
sweet sluice
did they change warbreaker, so that if you use it while disarmed it still applies the buff?
plain wing
@full quiver yea idk how to play against em at all
full quiver
worst is carrying some healer and guy runs into rsham line
lol literally every game
running around a pillar
instead of just rooting Dh on other side and healing self, keeps running until back on same side as shaman to get spam purged and kicked
plain wing
whats the best way to prevent a gnarly opener from rogue mage
nimble jasper
depends what they do
if they do something like sap healer then take a sec before stunning you the possibility to maybe bladestorm cc is there
sharp meteor
used to be that if you were mid range from healer and just moved towards them and bladestormed within the second you'd knock the rogue out
because rogue is in sap global and either running towards you or stepping
floral ingot
If you pre bladestorm/pre banner/pre reflect rm go below duelist they just run around like headless chickens
sharp meteor
yeah worst i have seen is scuffing their setup and the mage just frustration yolo busts and leaves
rm brain
sharp meteor
yep
fierce elm
Bladestorm when they sap healer
plain wing
do they usually follow up sap with poly? Is that how the comp setup works?
and then cheap/ kidney on me?
plain wing
so would they usually poly me and Kidney healer?
fierce elm
yes
plain wing
Just trying to get an idea of how setup works
plain wing
So if they sap healer, then its safe to assume theyre going me? Ok cool
fierce elm
Both start with a sap on your healer
No, if they sap healer its safe to assume they are gonna try to set up or open
And bladestorm counters both
fierce elm
If they go for DB+poly on you, you bladestorm it and then get intervene on your healer and boom bam you are fine from all CC+opener
without using a trinket
fleet ivy
guys i am new warrior , i level kyrian to 80 , you think should i level now another covenant ? necrolord ?
plain wing
lets say they sap healer... i bladestorm, can't they just then poly me or open me after it ends/
plain wing
i dont follow
fierce elm
Lets say they go your healer
fierce elm
They are gonna sap healer then Dragonsbreath+polymorph you then open on your healer
plain wing
Like couldnt they just poly me and then go healer (after I bladestorm), or just sap me then go healer?
what does bladestorm really even do
sharp meteor
intervened dam from rogue (melee) breaks sheep and now you're on poly dr
fierce elm
You are in combat so you cant be sapped, you cancel bladestorm to intervene healer
Bladestorm immunes CC
sharp meteor
oh and bind /cancelaura bladestorm into a few abilities
rly important
to have a way to break it
plain wing
but only for 3 seconds... as soon as it ends they can just open me via cheap/kidney with bust etc
sharp meteor
because often u just need a second of it to dodge a cc
fierce elm
So therefore, you get bladestorm on the DB, meaning you can intervene your healer who they might open on
If they open you then your healer is out of CC
And you are fine
sharp meteor
but only for 3 seconds... as soon as it ends they can just open me via cheap/kid...
ya but then ur healer isn't crossed
healer free
and u fine
plain wing
ok hmmm
sharp meteor
their game plan is control u so they can control healer then stun and burst you GENERALLY so it's about disrupting that in one way or another OR having a CD, like trinket parry, trinket healer cds, etc
fierce elm
Because you are a warrior
sharp meteor
cycle through stuff
plain wing
feel like ill just have to play it a bit
fierce elm
Then, second go you dont have healer trinket, you just trinket instafear both
ez pz
Rotate back trinket on healer for next go
repeat until you win
plain wing
hmmm thats big brain stuff
damn
so i shouldnt really ever trinket on first go against rogue/mage
fierce elm
Scooberz remove yourself
fierce elm
Because they are gonna get cross CC then open healer, healer or you have to trinket
there you go
And in such case you prefer your trinket over healer trinket
fleet ivy
Guys anyone can help me pls , i am new warrior , i am kyrian lvl 80now , you think should i level up now my other covenants ? or necrolord maybe ? or should i stay as kyrian ?
fierce elm
because you can shut down RM go singlehandely
plain wing
so i should be stacked on healer.... as soon as he gets sapped I bladestorm.... if I get sapped, leading to healer getting poly'd, what do i do? Cuz then they can full open on me
full quiver
u can sit r/m go if you're necro and they only use blades
fleet ivy
arms pvp
fierce elm
You should not be stacked on your healer
because then mage can just double dragonbreath
full quiver
make sure u equip a shield too
fierce elm
You as a warrior can also just break sap with berserkers rage
full quiver
then swap it back w/ macro
fierce elm
shut up scooberz lmao
plain wing
aight im confused
fierce elm
They cant sap you because you can break sap
plain wing
guess ill just have to try it
full quiver
if you bladestorm and they don't get you right away
plain wing
Yea but if i get sapped, im not gonna berserker immediately
if they're both stealthed
fierce elm
Nope
full quiver
you can intervene on last 3s of sap and try and cheese the sap
cause mage might DB on accident
fierce elm
But they arent gonna sap you either way
There is no rogue on ladder which is gonna sap you
because its such an unsafe play
plain wing
i mean in sub 2100 there are tho haha
full quiver
lol
plain wing
im saying if they poly'd healer, after sapping me
fierce elm
then you break sap with berserkers rage and kick poly
bam, set up broken and gone
Mage has to go out of stealth to poly
So you can just toss stormbolt or charge+kick and break their set up
fierce elm
You dont want to stand across the map from each other
just out of range so he cant hit double DB
plain wing
ok
fierce elm
If you are far enough where you cant hit stormbolt then you guys are across the map
plain wing
yea imma be honest I have a smooth brain so this doesnt reall make sense
will just try in person
sharp meteor
stacking means they get a free go because mage just dbs u both
plain wing
if mage opens with DB on me, into poly
sharp meteor
then they have the freedom to do whatever out
plain wing
do i trinket?
full quiver
ok
sharp meteor
like cheap healer, poly as rogue stuns you, then they go you
full quiver
if mage combusts and rogue does big dam
on you
trinket parry
if they do it on healer
healer can trinket use something
fierce elm
If mage blows combust and rogue opens, you trinket the polymorph because you want to keep healer trinket
The most important part is that you just rotate trinkets
it doesnt matter hwich order as long as one of you has a trinket up for combust go
plain wing
ok
sharp meteor
just got to slow down and have a plan because smashing stuff quickly won't fix bad macro decisions
although the speed at which fire damage comes out is fucking bullshit 
sit there waiting for bust trinket cc/cd within half a second and already take like 20k+ dam
plain wing
yera i just have no clue what to do against rogue mage so its hard to not just mash
eya*
yea*
thanks for the tips, but i guess im just a visual person
fleet ivy
Guys anyone can help me pls , i am new warrior , i am kyrian lvl 80now , you think should i level up now my other covenants ? or necrolord maybe ? or should i stay as kyrian ?
white wraith
So whatcha guys think gna play next ssn 3s? Still arms/ret, arms/sp? No idea whos gainin good from dbl legos
sharp meteor
brain rot is queuing into nf disc kitty and having nothing happen for 12 minutes 💀
plain wing
for lock/spriest, is spriest generally the kill target?
mild pier
Queing up and pushing for duelist. Wish me luck lads
full quiver
good luck
plain wing
lock/spriest is scary for sure
lock anything is scary
all of a sudden im just getting a decimated bolt thrown in my face
and almost dying
sharp meteor
deci bolt just empowers subsequent demon bolts or incinerates
full quiver
i did rdruid + 2 dh with some buddies to get our guys rdruid up
was pretty funny lol
floral ingot
Dwayne double dark is monka
elder wigeon
honestly MLD is the scariest caster cleave
sharp meteor
yeah the ones that expect you to run/los are annoying
mount in, deathborn gets cast, ride back out
send every cd into the mage and they don't block despite having two
elder mulch
WHERE ARE MY NF FURY WARRIOR PVP GAMERS
elder mulch
GUESS I GOTTA PLAY SLEEPER NECRO
elder wigeon
play arms, profit
elder mulch
nah dont wanna play arms
sharp meteor
fury might be fun for bgs but seems unfun for arena
elder mulch
ye
sharp meteor
just seems like budget havoc with perhaps a bit more burst
spice hornet
i wish NL DH had an ability you press that just explodes the demon
rather than having to target him or mouseover glaive him
so annoying
give them another button anyway
sharp meteor
yeah that would've been nice
press cov ability to throw glaive demon
and/or make the soul bigger
spice hornet
yeah the soul is annoyingly small and not bright lol
elder wigeon
can't have a throw glave macro to target the demon names?
sharp meteor
nope they work like totems or something
although really targeting it and throwing a glaive really isn't bad
elder wigeon
i mean the glaive can also bounce to it and kill it
sharp meteor
yeah true but in the deathball that's kind of unreliable if there are a bunch of targets up
only bounces twice i think
then it'll do that chill streak thing where you think it's close enough to bounce but really isn't
sharp meteor
yeah which is why i think it's weird so many dhs want a macro
but i guess their bars are rather empty
elder wigeon
all they do is dmg lmao
sharp meteor
thinkin about that dh who darked in the middle of the map like 30-40 yards from his healer when we did our big and final go on his rsham
i remember bash cloning a healer in 2s and this warr on the other side of the arena pressed reflect
sharp meteor
i still dunno what mirror's range is
big as fuck and u need line
mild pier
I'm 2050 rating and I just lost against a 2100 warrior and 2300 resto druid ???????
What is this fucking game?
elder wigeon
not sure what you're getting at
gloomy beacon
That seems like a decent mmr spread?
gloomy beacon
Tbh less of an issue over 2k it’s pretty f’d when 1500s are going against 1900s
sharp meteor
hmm not really
mild pier
Doesn't feel like less of an issue. Fucking massive rating difference
gloomy beacon
Yea I don’t see that so strange especially with the warrior just 50 over you
sharp meteor
u need to stop looking at peoples ratings/exp and just play xd
lucid walrus
game's been out 17 years. even a 1600 rat deaths a sheep once a year
hard nacelle
Just figure out why you lost and don't blame the rating
elder wigeon
i wouldn't consider a 300 rating difference in this inflated season to be of any significance
what matters is MMR, not CR
in all honesty the difference between a 2k and a 2300 player is essentially zero
trail coyote
The difference is one queue session xD
hard nacelle
It's not too far off
elder wigeon
2k and 2300 players make the exact same mistakes, it's just 2300 players fuck it up slightly less
hard nacelle
You'll only notice the rating of the people you lose against
sharp meteor
at the end of the day it's fundamentals/consistency
which is why it always struck me as odd that people put a lot of weight into individual games
or worse wanted to 1v1
elder wigeon
dueling has been dogshit since mop change my mind
mild pier
You'll only notice the rating of the people you lose against
Nah I notice when every team runs out in this seasons glad mount then smashes my face in
While I'm sitting a sub duelist rating
Straight dog shit
elder wigeon
best way to get better is by playing against better players
hard nacelle
Glad mount has almost no bearing on the outcome
Might smash ur face in because you get psyched out at the dragon
lucid walrus
"oh no he plays the game more than me"
mild pier
Just frustrating when I’m not even facing people at my skill level but way fucking above it
hard nacelle
I get it, but it's the same skill level
warm quiver
Most of those glad mounts you see are probably people on their Alts.
Also not much difference in games / gameplay between 2k-2.5k
elder wigeon
it's only a good thing when that happens, it shows you how badly you're playing because they will punish your mistakes harder, it's much easier to understand that way
mild pier
I mean I know
hard nacelle
Only thing I noticed closer to 2400 is
Usually whoever starts with more control and intensity will win the match
mild pier
Like if I was just playing solely to get better I wouldn’t care but when I literally 4 rating from duelist and two dick licks run out on their glad mounts and beat my ass I can’t not get pissed
mild pier
Maybe
hard nacelle
Hide Arena Rating. You'll know you got duelist when your screen flashes yellow
mild pier
I definitely play worse when I start to tank rating
hard nacelle
Not knowing my rating played a huge part in getting elite
elder wigeon
take a break when you're experiencing tilt
sharp meteor
yeah that's what we call tilt and it's a good time to take a break as enu says
sharp meteor
yeah i have had periods where we cratered like 300+ points lmao
rating comes rating goes
mild pier
Yeah that’s true
lucid walrus
2s in particular is rock paper scissors at the top a lot of the time. there's more variety on ladder given how prone most people are to misplays but it's important to analyze what went wrong. if you can do that on break then that's even better
elder wigeon
2's is devoid of any fun and balance
lucid walrus
knowing what your answers are to certain goes or situations is also pretty important. i.e. duel or fear on SEF or something to that effect
sharp meteor
ya rating so insanely inflated and season still has probably a month in it
lucid walrus
i expect a mid-march release tbh
everyone and their dog said that about february too so
lucid walrus
i forget what the signposts for patch release are tbh. they just announced that "testing with the blues" thing coming up
elder wigeon
I predict early march
lucid walrus
how many do you have rn?
elder wigeon
but things are a bit quiet
nimble jasper
the whole "come out on a glad mount thing is funny"
sharp meteor
yeah walk in and poof there's a defensive cd and cc
nimble jasper
i remember playing my rogue in s1 and this fucking warrior would intervene AFTER every kidney on his priest
trail coyote
If -50 is the “I quit” threshold you’re going to have a lot of potentially great sessions cut short tbh
sharp meteor
If -50 is the “I quit” threshold you’re going to have a lot of potentially great...
right lol that guy the other day was upset that he "dropped 20 points"
alksd;ak
mild pier
If -50 is the “I quit” threshold you’re going to have a lot of potentially great...
I mean I’ve been queing for like 2 hours
Or maybe more idk
nimble jasper
glad mounts dont even mean that much since they're acc wide
mild pier
But to get within one win for the 3rd time and go on a losing streak
elder wigeon
glad mounts mean nothing since it's 2400 lol
mild pier
Idk apparently I got waxed by some rank 1 Druid
nimble jasper
i needed to play better but
hard nacelle
But to get within one win for the 3rd time and go on a losing streak
That's why u disable rating. Your losing streak was because you got close
mild pier
Maldives
sharp meteor
yeah i feel bad for the old glads
sharp meteor
glad all welfare and r1 is still hard
nimble jasper
lmao
sharp meteor
all duelists got promoted to glad with them
elder wigeon
it's whatever, tourney players aren't gods i q into them all the time
sharp meteor
and no new incentive
elder wigeon
sure
mild pier
Idk maybe I’m just not at that level yet
elder wigeon
I'm a rando sl glad
sharp meteor
he do that
elder wigeon
nobody knows who I am and a r1 title won't change that, you gotta get into their circle
mild pier
Yeah I got that much
sharp meteor
yeah you try hitting thing u think is best and adjust as u go
and sometimes go hm maybe this isn't ideal
lets try going healer
or swapping off hots
etc
mild pier
Yeah true. I don’t have any consistent teammates either. I just lfg, kinda lame
elder wigeon
yeah I have two teams right now, my healer being the same for each
i play kitty and ret war atm
hard nacelle
Think of the length of your offensives and the length of their defensives
Then go for the one that doesn't line up
sharp meteor
yep kitty not sure what to do vs that on necro
hard nacelle
Rogue always kill target
nimble jasper
people care too much about the rando shit like mounts and such honestly
even some r1s are questionable on alts
ahem pika on any class that isnt rogue
lucid walrus
you watch mes & cdew 2s when they're playing like rogue/rdru and you'll feel a little better if you're a midrange player or below
hard nacelle
even pika on rogue 
lucid walrus
granted they're also undergeared but it shows that career r1s fuck up too
sharp meteor
pika on everything other than rogue is actually cooked
i thought his monk was like a fanboy acc
nimble jasper
i mean i've run into him doing viewer game
usually kill his viewer first cuz
good rogues dont die for trinketing piss
sharp meteor
i sent 5 crates to my alt warr and got a wep
nimble jasper
pika on everything other than rogue is actually cooked
I mean there's a reason the few times hes tried to play something else in a tourney setting
they've gotten 3-0ed
sharp meteor
yeah no comp options i imagine
lucid walrus
it's a big thing for me & my buds to stream unboxing on alts
nimble jasper
well wiz is usually their multiclasser
lucid walrus
it's crack to watch
nimble jasper
jelly kind of too but jelly on hunter is uhh
man's brain kinda large at times
"i dont want to imagine if jelly actually decided to play surv in 2s seriously"
frank knoll
sharp meteor
aimed shot worse than gpyro 💀
sharp meteor
"guys i pressed bust and it didn't work this class sucks" 💀
nimble jasper
priest friend of mine once said
once a mage learns he can poly more than one unique person a game he gains 400 cr insta
frank knoll
My hunter is 250 PvP and my aimed shots hit for like 10k non crit lol
Gpie does like 30% if ur health or some shit
nimble jasper
see trueshot pop
sharp meteor
the thing with gpyro was haste amps and that damage in general was much lower in bfa
nimble jasper
instant disarm see if hunter tilt trinkets
gloomy dock
Fire mage is braindead in pvp. Alter time, cheat death, ice block.
nimble jasper
stun him on trinket if he does
sharp meteor
so % dam was spookier
gloomy dock
And really big dam.
sharp meteor
i think surv was like the only spec in bfa for instance
gloomy dock
Season 1, the shield leggo on a fire mage was fucking nuts.
nimble jasper
alot of mages at lower rating dont know how to deal with being trained
and/or grounding totem
gloomy dock
Actually free 1800-2100 rating.
Knew a dude who clickdd half his abilities, even rotational shit
frank knoll
Bro like I’ve gotten 100-0 quick by a fire mage with combust up if I make a mistake. This guy is dumb
gloomy dock
Grey parses, and still got 2100
nimble jasper
yeah i mean i did some rm 2s in s1
you can tell in like
the first 2 mins how good a mage is
the guys who cant land a sheep without the person being stunned first
frank knoll
Yeah that’s the thing about rogue mage also, it’s only scary if they’re actually good
nimble jasper
usually big stinky
frank knoll
I’ve beaten so many that suck and play it cause the Youtuber said so
nimble jasper
q baby alts into rmp
they sap someone
then spend 3 globals before opening
????
hello
do something you brainlets
lucid walrus
had a really funny series into an RMD as legion cleave last night
their rogue just could not get a re
frank knoll
Necro DH is the new thing everyone is mad about
lucid walrus
feel like everyone knew boomy was strong but boomy/dh feels like a whole diff level
if there's one good thing about SL it's the fact that people constantly find something new to work with
elder wigeon
it's because of kyrian druids
frank knoll
DH has horrible peels
lucid walrus
mm. true
frank knoll
Just train the Druid the whole time , DH has no answer to snares besides veng retreat
elder wigeon
i'm not fond of going boomie
lucid walrus
depends what you are ig
trail coyote
Honestly depending on comp I feel like the rsham race is better
frank knoll
I think DH/Arms/X is scarier tbh
trail coyote
My main is boomy and it feels like we lose more when they go our sham not me
But racing the boomy in the open can be so so good for pressure
any longer than like 4s in bear starts to lose a ton of value
lucid walrus
I think DH/Arms/X is scarier tbh
very very fun comp
frank knoll
Yeah I’ve playing it on my DH, it’s a lot of fun
sharp meteor
have had lots of success going dh with bolt and rsham
boomie just gets fastly clones
also mini swaps to boomie feel bad because frenzy + bark short cds
like if they pre-bear the go is gone, then there's auto frenzy, then bark usable while stunned
trail coyote
Fast clone is fkn life I’m so scared they might nerf that xD
And potentially ursine vigor too
Boomy livelordx
sharp meteor
wwhereas dh while covering peels from mooner usually yield results
like hit rsham to get riptides/earthshields etc on him then swap dh with bolt and spear both
trail coyote
Can have success either way for sure
sharp meteor
now if only i knew how to keep kitty from eating my poor healer
lucid walrus
i'm guessing kitty's played with a kyrian feral now yeah?
sharp meteor
almost always yes
lucid walrus
haven't seen it on ladder yet. i imagine that's a good thing
sharp meteor
it's like i'll get maimed/bashed healer gets bolted or bashed
and i have to super quickly and super carefully disarm/duel/fear/vene
yeah like one third of my games are kitty another third are dhboom
lucid walrus
eugh
hard nacelle
What rating
lucid walrus
what's this at, 2.7 or so?
lucid walrus
gotcha
sharp meteor
dhboom actually feelin so good now just need to get a little more used to their dmg profiles
but good grief kitty
lucid walrus
are many streamers playing kitty closer to r1 range? dunno if i've seen it yet
sharp meteor
seems quite strong especially if the feral knows how to do feral things
trail coyote
Kitty is so scary
sharp meteor
like the damage is just so explosive at times
trail coyote
Exeqt with an extra modifier very nice!!!1!
sharp meteor
it's almost like rmp where u have to be sitting there ready to trinket instantly because stuns go out and next global is actually dead because they might have or get a sd proc and empower off gcd
already have combo points for bite etc
trail coyote
Yeah it’s a bit tricky to read, Got farmed by one a few nights back
When are you playing duel?
sharp meteor
into most things these days
disarm/duel/sharpen is loadout usually
swapping out duel for big rally banner depending and sharpen for something else vs disc rmp but they're all hol ynow
like 1 minute cd to halve their dam in addition to warbreaker just destroys stuff like ret and enh BUTTT they can turn and ding you
lucid walrus
still can't tell what general awareness of duel is like for non-war players
sharp meteor
unknown in the depths which makes it super funny into some things
who'll spend the full duration hitting into somebody for half dam
trail coyote
Awesome thanks for the info
I’m so hyped to farm comp stomp and get my warrior geared up xD
sharp meteor
duel just destroys so many things
upbeat pumice
kyr or necro for 2s and 3s?
sharp meteor
i found necro easier becasue nobody knew what banner did
kyrian probably better overall
trail coyote
Actually hilarious the numbers I see as necro with only 236 ilvl
sharp meteor
yeah modifier stacking then just decking somebody if they don't use something
hard nacelle
I prefer that and venth because you carry the ability with you instead of dropping it on the ground like the other two. Makes it harder for them to deal with
tired portal
will haste+vers be best stats for kyrian wars in 9.2?
elder wigeon
doom eternal music really do be good warrior music
gloomy dock
@elder wigeon la vaca
Is wayyyy better
https://open.spotify.com/track/2qBNmCtprsZoCfpE0dR8xR?si=-_P9k-LMQOW2qlvGlk0o5A&utm_source=copy-link
Arena music
sharp meteor
💀
gloomy dock
https://open.spotify.com/track/7neWp4incUBLP1XQTNWmP0?si=LGliKx81RmqlcntMbvTz3A&utm_source=copy-link
La vaca
sharp meteor
ya not clickin that 💀
floral ingot
War banner dragons breath->reflect mindgames and sheep at the same time->rm leaves the game 
gloomy dock
https://open.spotify.com/track/6NTQlsuxxoC5yOkda5pOzM?si=qQI11T1QSPaupjx-8U30Ww&utm_source=copy-link
mystic barn
this is razonko channel
gloomy dock
reeee this isnt music channel
Pvp music
scarlet barn
but this isnt even pvp music 
fickle forge
This music arc is definitely the worst so far
These days we jam to coil bangers
https://youtu.be/fXvCdY7iMuI
gloomy dock
but this isnt even pvp music <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
Did u listen
scarlet barn
Yes
warped warren
crang
fickle forge
@warped warren No crit gamer 🙂
sharp meteor
had a game the other day where 4 of my 55 mortal strikes crit with 23% chance
on the verge of boomering it up and playing haste mastery
fickle forge
It's not uncommon for me to have 0-1 crits on 50 casts of an ability with only 5% crit
It feels straight up unsatisfying
sharp meteor
then you get 3-4 crits in a row during big spear 
trail coyote
Pls dice roll big
fickle forge
scarlet barn
sharp meteor
Pls dice roll big
honestly it does feel super good in this climate 
it's like sustain a bit more in a 10 minute game or just have potentially bust levels of burst in a spear
elder wigeon
👌
sharp meteor
elder wigeon
i do 1 haste gem and 3 mastery instead of 4 vers
cedar silo
I clearly made the mistake of going way too much into crit lol. Sitting at 26% crit and 9% haste
elder wigeon
nah I have 3 sets of gear
cedar silo
Works at 2.1k though
elder wigeon
it all works fine to whatever rating
revo and smexxin go full haste and rest into mastery
and I like the feel of it
cedar silo
Minor changes to the formula is just preference I guess
Haven’t played 3s since mop and big banner buffed crits felt good lol
balmy goblet
Ive just started gearing should i aim for some haste pieces instead of following the standard bis list? Playing kyrian
elder wigeon
you can play whatever, the list is outdated because none of the mod team does pvp
just follow murlok or your favorite top warrior
I'd keep this stuff updated if I could
sharp meteor
honestly the stat thing just feels like a comp/matchup and kind of preference thing
there isn't really a set in stone setup
elder wigeon
pretty much
balmy goblet
Aiit, playing 2v2 with either a resto druid or resto sham, 3v3 with resto sham + shadow priest
elder wigeon
what's the question?
lucid walrus
think that's just an aside tbh
elder wigeon
@sharp meteor enchanting rings with haste gets you to 2.9 second swing, gonna see how that feels
fickle forge
Imagine not having 30%+ crit
elder wigeon
crit is for babies
fickle forge
Haste are for wannabe fury anime lovers
elder wigeon
don't talk shit about smexxin
fickle forge
Chad Magnusz vs virgin Smexxin
elder wigeon
warped warren
<@!219895166054432769> No crit gamer 🙂
CONDEMN LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fickle forge
LAMAOU
warped warren
on the verge of boomering it up and playing haste mastery
mastery is cring
warped warren
<@!129440991294783488> enchanting rings with haste gets you to 2.9 second swing,...
play the haste 230 blue ring 
warped warren
Haste are for wannabe fury anime lovers
crit is for hardstuck ppl 😩
elder wigeon
nah fuck the ring man I don't need more mastery or haste
I play 2 speed gems and 4 haste because with two haste enchants i get 2.9 swing timer
warped warren
hasteisbis
cedar silo
But crits are life
elder wigeon
crits are insane if you get them at the right time
also feels like shit if you're full crit and rolling low on auto crits
grand scaffold
can somebody please tell me if haste or crit is actually better for arms
cedar silo
Haste is kinda wasted if you are bad at pressing IP
twilit ridge
Uglybaldbaby would put mud in the dirt
fleet ivy
guys what is the first legendary should i craft ? i am kyrian lvl 80 and necro lvl 80 , i am new warrior , and dont know what should i do
warped warren
Haste is kinda wasted if you are bad at pressing IP
lmeow
fleet ivy
i am confused with it
grand scaffold
guys what is the first legendary should i craft ? i am kyrian lvl 80 and necro l...
if you want to play kyrian make elysian might
if you want to play necro
enduring blow
fleet ivy
witch one is the best one ?
raw summit
Necro is better with ret
Kyrian is better with some other comps
It's about what you prefer
fierce elm
Turbo is my favorite ranged comp
warped warren
Turbo is my favorite ranged comp
hows 1800 life???
mild pier
How do you manage resto druid/WW
warped warren
if you play according to script, he dies eventually
unless you waste a cd randomly
quasi lotus
He uses X you use Y
10 minutes later he dies because you haven't died to any of his goes
and you have more sustained damage
full quiver
In bevs case y is condemn
warped warren
lmao
mild pier
10 minutes later he dies because you haven't died to any of his goes
Makes sense
wicked magnet
trail coyote
See you all in comp stomp this week xD
warped warren
fleet ivy
but hoiw i will know i am at skoldus ?
mild pier
Fucking hit duelist LET'S GOOOO
lucid walrus
but hoiw i will know i am at skoldus ?
tells you at the start of the layer i’m pretty sure
just keep rerolling til it’s up first
hard nacelle
Fucking hit duelist LET'S GOOOO
THERE U GO
hard nacelle
How do you manage resto druid/WW
Bait his sweep with bladestorm or fleshcraft, or let him single sweep healer like they always do. Healer dispel thorns if they can, swap if not, watch for karma. If it's not on you then beat thru it without CDs
fading socket
Can you storm bolt someone while you are polymorphed?
hard nacelle
Not unless it happens at the same time
hard nacelle
Yeah it's more of an accident
fading socket
I was polly'd and running around as a sheep.
Noticed SB up and it worked..
While in poly
full quiver
What lol
fierce elm
big energy
fading socket
Nooo
The sheep was running around..
Like when you get pollyed
I wasn't in control
One second I got video
Gotta finish match first.
Ok I was not pollyed it was Hex.
Maybe that works different?
hard nacelle
Hex doesn't allow casting either
fading socket
1 sec I will post GIF of it.
fading socket
1 sec working on gif
hard nacelle
All good
fading socket
Will comp stomp allow it?
Waiting for upload, jst trying to figure out how it happened..
full quiver
Lmao
fading socket
You can see me hex'd and move around him, Storm bolt and then run out lol
Gotta be a comp stomp thing right?
full quiver
you also used parry lol
mild pier
Bait his sweep with bladestorm or fleshcraft, or let him single sweep healer lik...
I'll try this next time
fading socket
So idea how I was able to SB while hexed?
minor vector
Comp stomp thing, every ability they use seems to work differently since they’re npcs
sharp meteor
comp stomp aren't actual pvp abilities it's like ghetto ass versiosn of stuff
dnd 90% slow doesn't fade for instance
minor vector
^
sharp meteor
don't pay it any mind
sharp meteor
🥳
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
god i wish i was high mmr (1200)
warped warren
[this chat is now in high mmr only chat (1200)]
dawn bane
https://media.giphy.com/media/cYaWBL0QOtqyd52YSR/giphy-downsized-large.gif
you can move in hex, but can't in poly
sharp meteor
🐸
fading socket
you can move in hex, but can't in poly
Not about moving or not. It was that I was able to storm bolt.
dawn bane
iirc even some skills can be used in hex
fading socket
We tested it out in front of Org, buddy couldn't do it. So it was a comp stomp thing.
sharp meteor
nope
dawn bane
like disenage
sharp meteor
nope
breaks on some dam, can be decursed by non-healers like balance, feral, shamn mage etc but can't use anything
neat ability
mild pier
NOOOOO
sour ridge
Thank god Venthyr Arms, that oppressive spec we see everywhere, has been nerfed
mild pier
Tell me it isn't real
dusky locust
ouch
raw summit
fire mage tierset doesnt make em burn anymore
sharp meteor
4-piece: No longer causes the Fire Mage to take damage over time while Combustion is active.
askdjsaldsa yeee
okay neat it is the black one
sour light
is it worth to use the single damage shards over pvp gear if the piece doesnt have vers? assuming similar iLvl?
sharp meteor
hm still works with sudden death so that's nice
cosmic pumice
i have started to not take dfensive stance and take either leap talent or second wind. doing pretty good with it, what do you guys think?
sharp meteor
i just chased a healer across a bg with like 30 condemn charges i wonder if that was a dev
i think that sounds like griefing your team
can't think of a matchup in which i wouldn't take dstance
cosmic pumice
how? lots of times the second win wins me the game because i hide, or having lower cd on leap
wind*
sharp meteor
maybe like some oddball 2s comp/matchup
wheat jay
Is that a new change?
sharp meteor
in 3s that sounds like actually inting
wheat jay
I didnt see it anywhere
sharp meteor
Is that a new change?
on ptr yeah
sharp meteor
yeah seems fine mongo charge spam with massacre was cringe
full quiver
LOL
wheat jay
Its one of those "fun to use, unhealthy for the game"
fierce elm
Death sentence kek
cosmic pumice
so you agree?
fierce elm
imagine picking death sentence lmao
cosmic pumice
i think second wind is better really
sharp meteor
yeah ds already feels kind of niche as it is
cosmic pumice
and easier to use
full quiver
yeah d stance is really niche
full quiver
second wind is good vs everything
sharp meteor
scoobz stop bullying him
hollow hill
Have you guys played at 25-2900 and felt how terrible it’s going to be to have no extra gap closer lol
wheat jay
It's still a gap closer
full quiver
he's trolling
wheat jay
Just not spammable one :)
sharp meteor
yeah i think it's fine
cosmic pumice
last time i started asking questions here people started trolling me
sharp meteor
if u need charge execute for something like a monk you'll still have it just not infinite charges
fierce elm
Should have been nerfed in 9.0.5 but it wasnt
cosmic pumice
you guys are bullies
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
i think it's fine especially if venth coming back with ss
wheat jay
Everyone was expecting nerfs in 9.0.5 ye
fierce elm
Venth coming back kek
full quiver
i will miss spamming execute on a monk standing in his RoP
and bouncing off it like an angry bee
that shit is so funny lol
fierce elm
Not woth EM kyrian or even necro
wheat jay
Fuk condemn
full quiver
perma warbreaker
hollow hill
Venth war worst game play tho
sharp meteor
yeah smaller more frquent executes that rage stave you feel bad i pref kyrian/necro
full quiver
i miss old afro 
hollow hill
But the 6 seconds is too long, 3 sure, the amount of downtime you’ll have against anyone who isn’t a bot is going to feel absolutely horrendous
fierce elm
The only time DS ever felt good was when you mismanaged shit
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
yeah like even if they deleted it, it'd be fine
full quiver
idk it looks like it feels good into hunters
fierce elm
This is gonna actually require you to use half a brain with leap/charge
hollow hill
You can howl and still have 0% uptime lol
full quiver
@fierce elm can't wait to see bev hard stuck 1800 now
wheat jay
Lmao
full quiver
LMFAO
sharp meteor
just hit their spriest 4head
fierce elm
This is gonna actually require you to use half a brain with leap/charge
I refer back to this
DS and warriors in general are way overdue of a nerf
full quiver
afro stfu
fierce elm
and Death sentence should have been changed in Season 1
sharp meteor
felt weird ssetting up alts and seeing every warr play charge execute
cosmic pumice
aren't warriors weak right now
sharp meteor
like playing charge execute into terb/retwarr
wheat jay
Lmao no
cosmic pumice
fee;ls pretty hard in 2s
full quiver
i hate u koolguy
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
no surv is aids in 2s die
wheat jay
Or 30s on stun
wheat jay
no surv is aids in 2s die
2s are AIDS so its whatever
full quiver
anything + rdruid in 2s is aids
wheat jay
Lmao
hollow hill
I mean, I feel like I play properly lol. But some people here def play mm hunt, so that shows 😂
wheat jay
Huh
sharp meteor
i hate mm
fierce elm
"Lets keep death sentence due to MM"
full quiver
imagine not being a gnome warrior
fierce elm
k e k
fierce elm
Shit shoulda been removed way back
full quiver
i never played it
wheat jay
think they're hot shit with steel trap
And then you can't catch them anyway
fierce elm
Member how we have been an S-tier spec since s1
And like what, 70% of comps revolve around the warrior support?
wheat jay
Some people were condemn interrupting
sharp meteor
i rly expected a die by the sword cd nerf or ignore pain and it's like hey condemn charge LMAO
wheat jay
Darg
sharp meteor
didnt touch duel 🥳
sharp meteor
we gonna get flooded with "guys how do i beat hunters in 2s" soon
wheat jay
Conq banner nerf when?
sharp meteor
GUYS HELP I KEEP FORGETTING TO HAMSTRING PLS FIX
cosmic pumice
why
sharp meteor
was helping my friend get duelist on h is warr in 3s and had to be like hmm dang they moving kind of fast
cosmic pumice
feels good to me
fierce elm
Feels good for you, not any healer/kite class having their one thing that they are good at be neglected
cosmic pumice
well execute costs rage
sharp meteor
because infinite mongo charges when somebody is below 35%
and off sd procs
kind of ape
cosmic pumice
i have never been able to back to back spam that that much, i don't see the big deal
cosmic pumice
i don't think so really. it costs rage to press execute
fierce elm
It costs them their life if they cant kite
wheat jay
Huh
fierce elm
solved it
wheat jay
People literally spam it super hard
cosmic pumice
you can still get kited with it
sharp meteor
imagine trolling this dead ass channel 💀
sharp meteor
go bully the soccer moms about their shop mount 💀
cosmic pumice
whatever
nimble jasper
why play death sentence when you can play winbringer
lucid walrus
truly the most oppressed class. first we lose guillotine and now this
nimble jasper
combust change overall positive
now ape fire mages cant be un cc’able during their cd
sharp meteor
whatever happened to guillotine could they just not get it functional or something
went to try on ptr and it was NYI
lucid walrus
not sure if they just figured it wasn't viable or what
sharp meteor
i wanted to darius Q people with executes
lucid walrus
casted execute that instakills sub-10% doesn't sound so great considering we bonk people from 50% rn
even if it was a conal
wheat jay
sharp meteor
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
spice hornet
loooll
wheat jay
And be forced to take some useless set
sharp meteor
it's like they find the worst possible way of doing literally eveyruithingj asjrshakdad
spice hornet
fax
wheat jay
Smh
spice hornet
it feels even worse to have 9 choices but not get a single 1
than it is to have 1 choice and not get it
nimble jasper
should just be one token for doing a vault
and scales based on what level content you did
sharp meteor
no
languid swift
can you add sockets using the archivists codex thing, to season 2 pvp gear?
lucid walrus
yea
mild pier
can you add sockets using the archivists codex thing, to season 2 pvp gear?
Shit is mad easy
Got to rank 6 in like 5 hours or something
sharp meteor
yeah it's pretty fast with decent rift farm group
all my chars are always full 226 conduits with 239 conq ones by the time I'm wrapping up duelist upgrades because i just run around korthia clicking shit while in q
plain wing
@mild pier what, how!?
mild pier
Rift farm baby
plain wing
Ive been putting off upgrading my conduits cuz it sounds so ass to farm rep
spice hornet
rift farm
plain wing
I have like 200 ilvl conduits
elder wigeon
Yeah rift farm
mild pier
If you're rank 4 you can buy rift keys from the archivist dude. Just join a group and farm that shit out
elder wigeon
Just get rift keys off rares before tier 4
fierce elm
Or just dont do it because its MAD cringe
green sleet
on the night fae assult you can perma rift farm if you dont hand in the quest, if the rift ones available
sharp meteor
20% mortal combo and 20% str conq banner
plain wing
Im guessing a high ilvl conq banner conduit compared to my 200 ilvl one
would be pretty hge
huge
fierce elm
about 6% from 200 to 252
elder wigeon
it gets enhanced to 20% at 252 though
sharp meteor
yee
