pvp

[sharp meteor]

and executing him once

and it somehow hadn't broken

then it breaks at like 12% and he dies next swing

[nimble jasper]

seen it more with lock fear

full row of dots

sits entire duration

[sharp meteor]

yep

also just realized i bought elite weps instead of bm on alt warr my healer is going to slug me

[nimble jasper]

idk

i hate locks tho class is so annoying

no matter how good/bad it is

[sharp meteor]

A warlock enters in the area, nobody gets to have fun

[nimble jasper]

just aids to fight

[sharp meteor]

not even the warlock

[nimble jasper]

if its low mmr i try cheesing the healer

cuz i swear the rdruids that play wizards

are so clueless

[sharp meteor]

sl s1 one was funny because you could tell all the healers who played with mage/lock

just standing in the middle of the arena

[nimble jasper]

i could tell that in s4

when doing my rogues wins

part of why i queued with priests instead of hpals

or notorious season 2s

max range pve heal rdruids queuing guard aff w/ dks

[dense wigeon]

Hey all, joined here hoping to maybe find some 3s partners, been looking for more warrior btags. I’m a 3k ret but don’t currently have a set team for the remainder of this ssn/next. Sitting around 2.5-2.6 rn maybe looking for an end of season push, but def looking to push for R1 again next season. If anyones interested in queing hmu.

[thick reef]

Good morning all! Hoping to get some opinions from you all. I’m a 2.7xp rogue and it is currently my only character, I am not a fan of having alts but want one more class adding to the selection. I’m considering Warrior, Hunter or Mage and I only will ever PvP with the odd Mythic Plus dungeon for the seasonal mounts.

If I could grab any of your opinions on what you believe would be a great alt that would be much appreciated, thanks all!

[elder wigeon]

all of those classes are S tier currently, pick what you enjoy most and play it

[thick reef]

Thanks for your response! It is important for me that the class will kinda always be viable if that makes sense as I only want to have 1 alt, I’d hate for it to be a deadbeat class through different patches where it’s unplayable. Yes, I know we can’t predict future changes but looking back on the way the classes have been in the past which ones do you believe would be the most reliable if that’s the right word?

Thanks again for your feedback!

[elder wigeon]

it's very rare for any 3 of those classes to not be in the meta

Rogue, Warrior, Mage, hunter are always in the meta aside from a handful of seasons through the last 15 years

[nimble jasper]

People said bfa hunter wasnt great but EU jungles were still shredding in s4

[elder wigeon]

I mean, warrior wasn't special in BFA from what I've seen

[nimble jasper]

o yeah

BFA and the infamous immortal dhdk cleaves

[elder wigeon]

warrior was kinda cheeks in season 13 of mop

warrior wasn't that amazing in cata either, aside from one season

[nimble jasper]

mage is usually S tier

in all facets of the game

[elder wigeon]

yeah, mage is always in the meta

[nimble jasper]

Although if you want to play diff comps might not be the best choice.

Also lets you play the other pov of usually your best comp.

so thats an upside in a sense

[trail coyote]

@thick reef I just boosted a warrior a few days ago and it’s been an absolute blast as an alt

[elder wigeon]

hunters and warriors of that bunch, when meta, have the most comps available to them

[nimble jasper]

mage variety in comps is usually pretty good too

[elder wigeon]

when frost is meta, frost mage has an unreal amount of comps available to it

play what you want, don't worry about balance, all 4 are in the meta 90% of the time

[thick reef]

Thanks so much for your help guys and comments it’s much appreciated.

I’m not a FOTM player otherwise I’d be rolling DH right now but as I have limited time I don’t like having many alts.

What would you say should be the deciding factors when picking an alt?

[nimble jasper]

What your partners play

[elder wigeon]

I mean, FOTM doesn't really exist right now if we're being completely honest

DH boomie is a new comp found, but I wouldn't say DH is necessarily been "buffed" into the meta to be so

[trail coyote]

@thick reef for me it’s accessibility / comp variety / how “fresh” is it compared to my main. I’m a boomy / feral player so arms is a nice switch up with a ton of viable comps and it isn’t super complex so you can hit the ground running with the spec.

Being able to hit LFG with multiple comps as opposed to just RMP for example is nice

[nimble jasper]

Mage has alot of comps its just not all of them are LFG friendly

[thick reef]

In terms of partners it’s very much a LFG situation for myself so I don’t really have a situation where it’s necessary to be a certain class.

I absolutely love rogue, like rogue is my bread and butter but just wanting an alt where you can play it and enjoy it if that makes sense haha

[nimble jasper]

warrior you can get away with just queueing some gaspedal zugzug at lower ratings.

[elder wigeon]

just take some beta blockers before you get into the higher ratings where you get weakaura slaved on your warbreakers

[thick reef]

Okay after speaking with you all, it now boils down to Warrior or Hunter 🙂

[sharp meteor]

easier to find qs as warr

as u slot into most things

[grand scaffold]

Does anybody have any idea if siegebreaker or reckless abandon is better>

[uncut pollen]

probably siege for pvp lmao

with abandon you are just gonna get disarmed every go

where as SB you can just use siege and use that as a mini go

thats also a shorter cd

[grand scaffold]

thats a good point

is hack and slash or vicious contempt better

[sharp meteor]

hmm funny unfamiliar words

[uncut pollen]

you know its lit

when there are more people running mortal combo than hack and slash on fury

seriously tho, why are so many ppl shifting towards necrolord for pvp

just because its easy to swap now?

[sharp meteor]

mud montages

also people learning how to not explode in the first spear

[floral ingot]

Cause every class gets out of your spear with a blink/other ability

[sharp meteor]

moonkins don't lmaooo -bonk-

[floral ingot]

Wild charge

[sharp meteor]

i feel like it's not reliable enough

[floral ingot]

Paladins don’t, but ye

[sharp meteor]

shaman is another

[floral ingot]

True

Okay almost every class

A mage got out of my spear 4 times in a row yesterday

Made me mold

[sharp meteor]

shambles

just solo'd a mage the other day and he

tried to shimmer twice and fox out

to no avail

[floral ingot]

xd

[sharp meteor]

he noticed too late maybe that's what threw him off because his teammate saw

[floral ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[sharp meteor]

it was funny because the boomie is trying to peel my go and the mage is tunneling on trying to get to my teammate who was like 3% hp at the time

[fierce elm]

Big hits, fleshcraft, Mastery for everyone

[sharp meteor]

my sham might've been recording i need to go check because i wasn't

also still haven't figured out how to deal with retwarr as turbo hmm

[fierce elm]

Comes down to the warrior entirely

What healer yall running

[sharp meteor]

mw or rdruid

[fierce elm]

if its MW its ez pz

[sharp meteor]

hm really

[fierce elm]

y

[sharp meteor]

i felt like we could sometimes play for mana with mw

[fierce elm]

You can

MW shouldnt run oom ever

But you can literally shut down every go they have

[sharp meteor]

plus double disarm gets value off more and more rets going necro

can peel warbreaker and sera

then duel w/e else

[fierce elm]

Disarm both, gets duel on Ret, intervene to shut down initial burst

you got so many tools

Ring of Peace even

All you gotta do is shut down the Sera go and yall dumpster it

[sharp meteor]

actually now that i think abouit it most of the rough matches were with rdruid

yeah disarm wb, disarm sera, duel out

[fierce elm]

Then the fact that during your go you can get double leg sweep and SB healer

then follow up with Para/hex

You got so many tools versus that comp that its not even funny

But it all comes down to how much the warrior/mw vibes together

We also made sure that MW disarmed Warrior everytime

rather than the warrior disarming warrior

in case he does some funky parry shit

[sharp meteor]

yeah yeah

i only have to watch for intervene on the disarm

[jaunty furnace]

What rating is rival II

It won’t let me upgrade my pvp gear even though I won games above 1800 CR

[ember rose]

1950

[mystic barn]

@grand scaffold hey what do you run for fury

first time fury here and want to learn from someone high rated

you said you were 2300 and everyone else here is arms

[marble inlet]

https://youtu.be/dT5__t0zNeQ

[grand scaffold]

ill tell you

like what about you mean

cov lego talents or what

[jaunty furnace]

I would like to know also what covenant and Lego

[grand scaffold]

well

run signet with haste vers on ring slot

play necro

thats the ideal build

run that for talents

if you need to swap battle trance or enduring rage for disarm or bloodrage

depending on comp

keep battle trance against consistant dmg

and enduring rage against burst

the regular talents dont change ever

[jaunty furnace]

Hmm interesting why necro over the other ones? On the pins it shows Kyrian is top but that’s probably only for arms

[grand scaffold]

vers=haste>mastery>crit

well

just leave pins alone

they basically fake news

necro just smacks

fury squishy

so it works really well

spear kinda meh

not awesome without kyrian lego

and you need signet for fury

use haste enchants and gems

need anything else?

ooh

btw

always run 2x 2h weapons

not 2x 1h weapons

[jaunty furnace]

Sounds good thank you!

[grand scaffold]

np

lemme know if anything doesnt make sense

[tranquil hemlock]

@grand scaffold have you tried the one shot build with fresh meat?

[grand scaffold]

yo

i saw that on youtube

but no

i havent

[tranquil hemlock]

Nowhere near as consistent

But fun as fuck lol

[grand scaffold]

i bought the gear pieces for it tho

thats cool

ill try it one day

[tranquil hemlock]

I’m only a 2.1 player as arms just mess around with fury from time to time

Nothing serious but it’s fun

[grand scaffold]

thats nice

i just play fury

arms is just

too generic to me

i see too many of it

how often does that 1 shot build work

[tranquil hemlock]

It works a lot of the time, it’s a lot of damage. But good players are going to hit their buttons lol

[jaunty furnace]

Does necro fury only really work in 2s or is it good for 3s also?

[spice hornet]

The most true statement I’ve seen all week

[sharp meteor]

it's bad in both lmao

but it also works in either

so like

[fierce elm]

2s comes down to your healer carrying you anyways

[warped warren]

well

it comes down to your healer pressing buttons

somewhat decent

[oblique apex]

Double time vs storm bolt whats your opinion?

[sharp meteor]

i think double time is fun in bgs with warbringer

but in the vast majority of arena cases it feels troll to not take bolt

[grand scaffold]

its good in both

i mainly play 2's

but its nice in 3s

[full quiver]

Vs rmp

Kek

[grand scaffold]

KABOOM

and you people said i couldnt get glad

[wheat jay]

Its Elite

Not glad

Gz tho

[grand scaffold]

same thing

ty ty

[wheat jay]

Not rly the same

[grand scaffold]

well

yeah

but i played fury

GG

that was so hard

[raw summit]

now win 50 more

you got this

💪

[grand scaffold]

now i gotta get it in 3's

but ty ty

[graceful quarry]

there is no glad in 2s

[mystic barn]

how did you meet a multiglad healer who would heal for you? thats impressive in itself

[scarlet barn]

Dont be fooled . it doesnt work well in 3s 🙃

[scarlet barn]

1,you didnt get glad
2, nice healer you got there 🙃

[floral ingot]

Now you need to do it as prot

Or I am not impressed

🧢

[graceful quarry]

I summon @nimble jasper

[floral ingot]

Gz though

[full quiver]

How much did that guy charge

[scarlet barn]

[soft canyon]

Hey guys, im trying to hit glad with a off-meta comp DH + arms + resto. DH doesnt really benefit much from necro flag, would it be a better idea to go kyrian?

also is a 246 jaithys better than a max lvl pvp wep?

[sharp meteor]

how would the dh not benefit from a bunch of chaos dam

[scarlet barn]

no

[sharp meteor]

nah duelist wep gonna have 13 ilevs

[warped warren]

sadeg

[raw summit]

i just assumed 3s he's got this either way

i believe

[sharp meteor]

thinking about how they're adding ground mounts with armor that matches the glad drakes in 9.2 but they're from some new torghast thing instead of being a 2.4k 2v2 mount

they're even rats which make them even more of a perfect 2v2 mount

[full quiver]

Lmfao

[sharp meteor]

also threw my spear into an rsham the other day and saw his dh use dark on the other side of the arena

[raw summit]

Method rbg tournament thingy final up now

[wheat jay]

Rbg

[sharp meteor]

rbgs make me remember that rbg players exist

[wheat jay]

Rbgs are just conquest/honor farms

That's all

[raw summit]

It's an interesting watch

I hate playing them though

[sharp meteor]

rbg win on bg week and getting like 2200 honor towards vault 👌

[soft canyon]

its like a 3% buff

they dont scale well with mastery

[elder wigeon]

nah it's more than that

400 mastery is about a ~20% damage increase to chaos

[sharp meteor]

yeah but most of their stuff isn't chaos, like blade dance and immo aura are physical and fire

still 20% for 15 on eye beam annihilate fel rush (empowered) etc is decent

idk spear or banner both felt fine and even saw two teams playing venth

[elder wigeon]

just play necro war dh with kyrian rdruid

profit

send your purple beyblade in there and 1 shot enemy team

[sharp meteor]

edgy weeb doing like 7k dps the whole game just feels like it throws things out of whack

[wheat jay]

Xxxillidangodx doing like 7k dps whole game*

Every dh has a cringe name

[mild pier]

MMR should be account wide, change my mind

[wheat jay]

GL playing on new character at 2.4k

Would also make it easier to exploit

Drop mmr on useless alt

[sharp meteor]

yeah wow my shitcan mage that i don't play isnow 2900 or whatever the fuck and is unplayable cool

an idea so bad i could see blizz considering it

[elder wigeon]

mmr def shouldn't be account wide

[sharp meteor]

why is it this expansion in particular that people get so upset that some glad/r1 player kicked their teeth in

[elder wigeon]

what?

[lucid walrus]

lowest sub count in ages

[sharp meteor]

maybe it's the acc wide glad thing

[elder wigeon]

i mean glad is trash now

[lucid walrus]

people absolutely got stomped by glads in the past, they just weren’t aware i’m sure

[sharp meteor]

yeah but the people at 1600 don't know that

they just see dragon and/or title even if it's on a rat alt

[lucid walrus]

accwide glad def a factor

[elder wigeon]

2400 being glad is the biggest factor

[sharp meteor]

idk current system would be fine imo if seasons were shorter

2400 in 30 week seasons i slike

kind of free

kind of free in general but

especially long seasons

[elder wigeon]

glad right now is literally free

[lucid walrus]

someone dropped a bluepost in here abt how they were looking at seasons in 9.3 i thought

mighta been qc

[sharp meteor]

2 seasons per raid tier imo

[elder wigeon]

just bring back top .5% glad

[sharp meteor]

or that

[manic patio]

do you reckon Necro Warrior + Kyrian Resto Druid will be any good in 2s with double legos next patch?

[elder wigeon]

Yes it'll be disgusting

[lucid walrus]

would be nice if the bulk of changes didn’t come in .x.5 patches

[sharp meteor]

yeah sounds fun

[lucid walrus]

or if .5 meant a season split like u said self

[manic patio]

tyty

[elder wigeon]

i mean seasons should at absolute maximum be 6 months long

at minimum, 4 months

[sharp meteor]

it'd keep things somewhat fresh

[mild pier]

Idk, when you run into glads 50% of your games but you're under 2k it's a problem

[sharp meteor]

just kill them lol

[mild pier]

Lmao I'm trying

Discouraging as fuck facing dudes who shouldn't even be in my bracket

[sharp meteor]

they've always been there

just easier to notice now cos acc wide glad mounts, title and checkpvp

also current glad equivalent to like old mid-high duelist or something

[mild pier]

Yeah I notice the mounts obviously

[sharp meteor]

yeah run in on glad drake and people just start throwing cc/cds at you lmaoo

[mild pier]

This is my first season pushing so idk if it's always been a thing

I mean I don't panic play

[sharp meteor]

was helping my healer get duelist on his alt warr and he couldn't remember to slow stuff

plan was he just sends warbreaker to bait cds

then i thump everybody with seraphim wing and his conq banner

and it worked like every game

while he did like 1k dps because he had never played melee dps before

[mild pier]

I mean that's just nuts

I feel like I have a decent grasp of shit but maybe it's just because I only lfg

I can't gauge if my healer is messing up so I always think it's on me

But I know I fucking pump so idk

[spice hornet]

when a feral opens on you with feral frenzy and it annihilates your entire fleshcraft through d stance and youre at 60% hp by the time that opening stun ends

[sharp meteor]

🐱

[grand scaffold]

i didnt pay anything

i just pushed with a friend

[trail coyote]

What got you over the 2.2 hump? Looks like you were there for a bit @grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

i just couldnt find any consistant or friendly healers to play with

so i lost and gained cr

for ages

the one healer i had success with didnt play much

so i just decided im just wait for him

then i pushed 2400 of 3 sessions

also i wanted to get 2400 on fury before absterge did really badly

so i had extra motivation to really try hard

[trail coyote]

XD

[grand scaffold]

XD

[trail coyote]

Arenamate op

[grand scaffold]

whats that

[plain wing]

bro

im doing 2s

40 awayf rom 1800

and queue into lock spreiest

liek what the fuck

they dont die

what is this fucking game

how do u beat that.

queueing into double dps all night

lioke ret warrior

wtf

ret warrior 2s

how do u beat that

[gloomy dock]

What are you playing?

[plain wing]

shaman warrior

was 1765

now im 1749

back to back losses

what a dogshit game

[sharp meteor]

ROFL

[plain wing]

like.....

[gloomy dock]

Maybe you shouldn't get so mad

[plain wing]

I mean its infuriating

like spriest lock

they just sit in mid

[gloomy dock]

Being angry makes you play considerably worse.

[plain wing]

and dsetroy you.

cant do anyting

[gloomy dock]

And playing immediately after a loss, lowers your winrate by 22%

[sharp meteor]

u lost like 10 pointsa DOPSALJKDAS

[plain wing]

off healing is so fucking broken

[sharp meteor]

Q UP

[plain wing]

I mean im just losing all night

to stupid ass comps

2 qs im done for the night

not dealing with that garbo

[sharp meteor]

i know people who tanked out of glad range and ended the season with like 45/50 wins and they handled that better than ur handling this LMAO

[plain wing]

if im losing to sub 1800 players thats saying something

[spice hornet]

playing ret/war do we even have a chance vs. holy rmp

[plain wing]

garbage ass fucking healers dont help

.5 win rating sub 1800

im goodoood

[spice hornet]

let me play ur account and get u 1800 so u stop cryin g everyday

[plain wing]

hahah

oh boy frost mage balance druid 2s here we go

[lucid walrus]

if ur an 1800 player that's not really an issue

[plain wing]

playing into these garbo mage boomy 2s games

like jesus christ.

[lucid walrus]

play 3s and have every team north of 2.1 be boomy/dh

it's fun i promise

[plain wing]

bro

i died

[minor vector]

kill harder ez clap

[plain wing]

my healer is still alive

and this cringe as druid ahs been running around this pilllar

1 v 1 ing my healer

for 5 minutes.

what is this game.

[cosmic pumice]

should we play double time or stormbolt

i think double time is way better

w/ stormbringer

[lucid walrus]

what's a stormbringer

[cosmic pumice]

warbringer

[lucid walrus]

if you're just fishing for mud 1shots every 2min then sure, go for it. bolt's better if not

[plain wing]

holy fuck im so tilted

this guy is fucking kiting

for almost 10 m,iomutes now

in this arena

so fucking cringe.

[lucid walrus]

take a deep breath n queue next

[cosmic pumice]

stop sweraing

not okay...

[gloomy dock]

Have you considered just not fucking playing arena???

[plain wing]

do i just tell my healer to leave.

like

this sdruid is just kiting around pillar

for 10 minutes now

[gloomy dock]

It's clearly unhealthy for you

[cosmic pumice]

sounds like you are the noob

and your druid is the chad

[plain wing]

the rduid isnt on my team

he is 1 v 1 ing my resto sham

for 10 minutes

and theyre just running around

like holy fuck

cringe

do i tell him to leave

[cosmic pumice]

that is cool

didn't ask

[plain wing]

kool*'

[gloomy dock]

Fr, take a break bro

[plain wing]

why are they trying this hard in a 1700 game hahaha

like he's wasting everyones time

how do i beat doulb edps comps...

they blow me up everytime

like do i just hide behind pillar.....

[lucid walrus]

depends what it is

can just run from lock/sp on cds since you're gonna blow up there. get a reset, let your healer clean dots

you'll lose every game before the gates open w/ a mentality like that though

[plain wing]

Yea i mean i just blow at pvp

definitely bad for my health

prolly right

[lucid walrus]

not what i mean

[gloomy dock]

I just care, maybe take a breather!

[lucid walrus]

each game's a chance to look at fundamentals as opposed to killing your mental

[minor vector]

same mindset for any competitive game, just gotta go at it with a calm mindset and keep composure while you learn

[gloomy dock]

Also, log pvp

[minor vector]

that way you can take something away from the losses/wins

[gloomy dock]

So you can examine that shit later

[minor vector]

record games specifically

obs is a good program for it

[gloomy dock]

You'll be able to see your enemies making mistwkes and be like, hmm I should've exploited that etc

[lucid walrus]

squadov is quite good as well i hear

have always enjoyed playing mirror teams because it's a good skill benchmark

[gloomy dock]

At 1800, you're going to be really weak at punishing your opponents mistakes

And will likely be the biggest cause for losses.

[plain wing]

tru

best way to beat other warriors?

[lucid walrus]

there're a lot of micro plays at work

[gloomy dock]

Force the warrior into a bad position, the easiest way to do this is to bait them once they pop cds

[lucid walrus]

disarm on every wb is crucial. bladestorming on a stun go when you're sending burst to eat disarm puts you pretty far ahead

[gloomy dock]

Around that skill level, warriors will zugzug

And not pay attention to positioning during their burst cds

Makes it easy to turn 2v1 if you have a plan

Also, make sure you don't do this.

It's extremely exploitable.

[plain wing]

yea i need to do better positinoing!

positioning*

[gloomy dock]

Hope that helps. Remember to breathe, after each game, get up, walk around house, take a peak outside get some fresh air. Then come back

[minor vector]

against casters if they pop damage cooldowns before you've done anything it's very viable to just leave btw

[gloomy dock]

Your winrate will increase by about 12%

[minor vector]

especially if you stay mounted and don't charge off it in opener

just mount run right up to them

[plain wing]

i just panick still

and use defensives when i dont have toi

or double up

rather than like kiting or Los'ing etc

[sharp meteor]

yeah everybody starts off panicking just gotta relax

[minor vector]

yeah that's the hardest part about this season and SL in general, composure

[sharp meteor]

mount up walk in see what they do

[gloomy dock]

Eventually, you stop
Just comes from playing 10000 games

[sharp meteor]

gotta actively kind of try because otherwise you're just throwing your body at something

[plain wing]

like when do u guys Los or run out

instead of defensives

like when mages combust i assume

[minor vector]

if i mount up and run at them and they pop CDs off the bat, i just u-turn to my healer's pillar and vibe 'til its over

or if my damage isn't rolling/pressure isn't there and they use CDs

[sharp meteor]

mage bust is generally just one trinket then cc, or a big defensive

[minor vector]

^ fear is a good trade for it

[sharp meteor]

yeah like trinket fear can scuff the whole go on you or a teammate

just let the fear sit

[gloomy dock]

These are people you're playing against. There is no 100% plan to win.

Every game is a little different. Focus on learning all the other classes so you can exploit their weaknesses.

And most of the time, it's player mistakes.

[sharp meteor]

low and low-mid mmr is mostly people trying to brute force their way through games so just put emphasis on properly responding to their stuff then they're in shambles

[plain wing]

ok

sorry to rage

just never been good at pvp

yall are super helpful and understanding

[sharp meteor]

just stop being so upset all the time lmao

[plain wing]

I know

i just get angry at pvp

wanna feel like im in control

and not running around with my head cut off

[sharp meteor]

and don't get so mad at healers most of them aren't great but as long as they aren't outright griefing games which is usually pretty hard to do it's fine

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor hes so cooked i want to play his acc and get him 1800 to make him stop crying al day

[plain wing]

I feel a little better now, after just playing a game where a monk popped his load

got me down to like 10% hp, almost got me dead, then I feared, popped everything and hit a 28k execute

and won the match

first huge burst ive had

[sharp meteor]

big chop

[plain wing]

248 pvp ilvl now..... so kinda getting carried by gear

at this point

[gloomy dock]

I mean, I'm 248 PvE geared lmao

[sharp meteor]

easiest time coastin up is just pushing a breakpoint then chililnin in bgs for upgrades

[gloomy dock]

Or just do rbgs to 2100

Lmao

[fickle forge]

2.1k 2s is free compared to the other brackets though

[plain wing]

yay

[fickle forge]

Plus RBG emits low bench press energy

Grats though dude

[plain wing]

the last couple games i was definitely spamming random abilities and not lining cd's up as well as i should

still panicking hard

but we got it 😄

[sharp meteor]

🥳

[gloomy dock]

@plain wing https://open.spotify.com/track/7neWp4incUBLP1XQTNWmP0?si=emYL4lsPSFyeju46teBokw&utm_source=copy-link

Do arena to this song

You can't lose

[plain wing]

hahahah

ill take ur word for it

[gloomy dock]

:)

La vacaaa

[plain wing]

kinda feels bad on the game i got 1800 on

i was just throwing out abilities with no thought

and not setting up go's at all haha

[gloomy dock]

Keep playing then maybe u get 1900 tonight

[fickle forge]

Congrats, you've seen how the rest of us do it now

123123123

[spice hornet]

does warr/healer beat sub/holy in higher rated 2s? feel like u just auto lose by the 2nd or 3rd go unless you destroy rogue and he doesnt press his 1 million CDs

[gloomy dock]

Isn't high rated 2s just rock paper scissors?

[plain wing]

bro im getting hit by rapid fire for 6k a tick.....

and i have 248 ilvl

hunters are so broken haha

welp

[sharp meteor]

i feel like arms is why there aren't many people trying to play mm

[plain wing]

17k aimed shots

im farming honor in bg's

[lucid walrus]

comp stomp it

oh wait it's not up

2 days baybee

[plain wing]

how is a hunter 100 - 0 me in 2 seconds

in almost 250 ilvl....

like im genuinely curious how blizz thinks thats ok haha

[trail coyote]

Dog take a break 🤣🤣

[plain wing]

man hunter players are always such trolls too

[sharp meteor]

hop on their face

disarm stunbolt

owO

[plain wing]

yea tru

seem like the trolliest of players

too

[trail coyote]

Mm going to zug in the open

just stay d stance and close the gap for a disarm or just yolo bolt it gg

[plain wing]

i mean

i literaly died in 1 rapid fire

and an arcane shot

in d stance

[sharp meteor]

and if i press all my buttons and the enemy team doesn't i hit them for 30-60k in 2 globals

[plain wing]

damn

that sounds like the life

[sharp meteor]

cds are big now so if u don't respond with cc/defensives then u explode

[plain wing]

dont think he even had cd's up haha

[trail coyote]

He 100% had to have CDs up

And if u can’t stop you gotta wall it

[plain wing]

idk he did it twice

back to back in bg

[trail coyote]

Just press xD

[plain wing]

i genunicely can never kill hunters

even in skirms

they drop me to like 20% hp instantly

and i just cant do anything

kinda rough.

[trail coyote]

Yeah sounds like you could probably trade CDs better

[spice hornet]

still unreal to me that i have to kill rogue/mage in 2s luike 3 times over jsut to win

[fickle forge]

Yep lmao

MM hunters wanting to /afk with every double tap we ruin

[sharp meteor]

queued into this legend the other day playing mm/arms/hpal and he was a goblin

i can't remember the last time i saw a goblin hunter

[spice hornet]

1 rating from 2.5k in 2s and queue into some sweaty ass ww/feral comp that livelords all game

[scarlet barn]

It is called being boosted

[trail coyote]

Sadge

[sharp meteor]

thinking about how i'll never not be missing a piece of an old elite

[ember rose]

Must be nice

[gloomy dock]

@sharp meteor carry me in 2s to 2100?

[sharp meteor]

on the verge of making the horrible mistake of setting up an alli warrior

[gloomy dock]

Do t

I'm horde na

Fr, wanna teach me how to pvp

Maybe carry me to 1800?

Can it community service

[mystic barn]

@full quiver carries people to 2100 on a daily basis

[sharp meteor]

you don't want that if it's your first

find a buddy and climb

[mystic barn]

he has 2 warriors with 4000 games this season alone

[fierce elm]

Buddies in wow kekw

[gloomy dock]

I hate people, and I'm poor

[sharp meteor]

dang i only have like 1k games played

[gloomy dock]

And people don't like me

[mystic barn]

well he has like 8000 games on dh

[sharp meteor]

actually wait lemme see

oh 700 3v3 games played that's not too bad hm

[fierce elm]

find a streamer and leech 1800 in rbgs

ez

[mystic barn]

I got 600 games on my main

[gloomy dock]

I honestly just really want the grand mardhal set on retail

[sharp meteor]

1800 rbgs is the way then

[fierce elm]

then leech it in rbgs

[gloomy dock]

I also wanna do it in arena

[mystic barn]

What is grand marshal set

[gloomy dock]

Because rbg doesn't feel rewarding

[fierce elm]

lmao

[gloomy dock]

I made it to like 1750 in rbgs or some shit

Without trying

[sharp meteor]

rbgs is just dealing with old arena rejects

[fierce elm]

just learn arena then

[sharp meteor]

the set looks super dated anyways

[gloomy dock]

Yeah, I'ma tank main

It's actually tough for me :(

[sharp meteor]

i remember zoning into a 2100ish rbg and the enemy guardian was just

in bear, standing on his flag

[mystic barn]

Afro is multi elite prot

[sharp meteor]

legendary

reminds me i need to grief some random bgs as prot ast some point

dragon charge some nerds off a bridge

[gloomy dock]

@sharp meteor I'll actually try to play with you sometime

Maybe I'll try frost dk

[sharp meteor]

hmm that might b neat

[gloomy dock]

Frost dk arms seems neat

[mystic barn]

frost dk is wack do unholy tsg

[gloomy dock]

But ye, we'll see.

I'm not fucking playing unholy

[sharp meteor]

lol unholy tsg

[mystic barn]

why not

[sharp meteor]

unholy in general

shambles

[gloomy dock]

Do you have any idea how hard unholy is to play?

[mystic barn]

no

[gloomy dock]

It's not even good rn

[mystic barn]

I don’t

[sharp meteor]

really not the meta to be playing unholy

[mystic barn]

How hard is it to play

[gloomy dock]

Unholy has more buttons that. Any other class

[sharp meteor]

hard on your hairline

[mystic barn]

Does it

[gloomy dock]

Yeah

[fierce elm]

nfuhdk is the best 2s spec

[sharp meteor]

you queue into jungle and just apologize to your healer

[mystic barn]

I mean

I main uhdk

It’s aight

[sharp meteor]

condolences

[gloomy dock]

Frost is zugzug warrior brain

Frost arms is zug harder and kill someone instantly

[mystic barn]

frost is ever spec in the game has a disarm for you

every

[sharp meteor]

queued into unh tsg the other day and my shaman is like if the warr charges me the dk dies

and 5 seconds later the dk died

[gloomy dock]

I'm like 1600-1700 on like 5 classes

I'm really bad at pvp

[fierce elm]

trinket disarm @mystic barn

dumbo

[mystic barn]

cringe

[sharp meteor]

yeah send send send

[mystic barn]

I’m chilling 2250 in both brackets as unholy

lfg is fun

[gloomy dock]

With all your pvping and not being cringe

Where's your emote vri

Bro

I'm honestly, a decent player. But never got into pvp.

Big tank main, can ksm on any tank for sure, probably full portals on them all too.

[fierce elm]

Just play arms

zug zug 2s with an rsham

ez

[mystic barn]

no

[fierce elm]

Pick up a 3kxp Rdruid to ”play” with you

[sharp meteor]

i love rsham

they just crank so much damage in 2s

it's like hey buddy here is your earth shield then splashes me with riptide then just throws meatballs

[mystic barn]

I began my zug as enhance today for fun

[ember rose]

Find glad alts healers in q

Enjoy ur free 1.8k

[sharp meteor]

luv surfing through lfg on an undergeared alt and getting declined by every rival

then the glad/r1 alt is like hey papi

finish rating in no time then it's off to soft afk epic bgs for like 80k honor

[mystic barn]

Comp stomp coming in a few days

[sharp meteor]

yeah can't wait to get like 180 honor per match 💀

[mystic barn]

I fell into the bait last season grinding a full set of honor gear and leveling it up through epic bgs then getting my conquest set on alt war

Nah it’s like 500 honor per 3 min isn’t it

I got a ton every time just “I’ll defend farm guys don’t worry”

[sharp meteor]

yeah honor gear is not the play 💀 bite the bullet and slam your head into low mmr ranked

yeah i just went gm every match

[mystic barn]

Yea I went in on shammy with full starter greens earlier today

Other than a few conquest boxes from dk

[nimble jasper]

friend when he queues his alt dk named snowmixysub

and killing people on it

[fickle forge]

Catch Joefernandes when he streams and sign up in his LFG

Easy 1800 or 2100, whichever you need

[grand scaffold]

im not boosted

get used to it

[scarlet barn]

🚪 🏃‍♂️

[tough lake]

Is KFC worth playing (using H.pall or priest as healer)?

[grand scaffold]

yeah that rdru my friend'

used to play with his rsham

and rdru

not rdru

i mean mw

[quasi lotus]

is he going for 2400 all classes @grand scaffold

[grand scaffold]

idk

i just play with those 3 toons of his

not really his mw anymore cuz thats on horde

he doesnt really care about cr

he just plays to have fun

[quasi lotus]

fair. amusing how he's 2.3k+ on pretty much everything but still can't bring himself to play DK 😄

[grand scaffold]

btw

you still playing night fae fury?

[quasi lotus]

Haven't played WoW since August but decided Necro Fury was best by far

[grand scaffold]

dang

how come you not playing

[quasi lotus]

it was pre-fleshcraft nerf when I played but Necro probably still the best I imagine

got bored of sitting in LFG for 2 hours each night

[grand scaffold]

fair

i wonder how good frenzy is in 2's

[raw summit]

just try it

[grand scaffold]

yeah

ima gear an alt

[raw summit]

just queue on your main

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i will eventually

[dry trail]

should i lvl up kyrian fellow warriors or just stay necro for rbg / arena ?

[mystic barn]

comp stomp tmrw no reason not to lvl it

or get all covs to 80 if u rlly wanna

[dry trail]

comp stomp u mean brawl event ?

[turbid hare]

is comp stomp as good as the childs thing brawl (fighting bots in arathi) for honor and renown?

[mild pier]

Yeah comp stomp is insane

The matches are fast as fuck so it’s fast and easy honor and renown

[dry trail]

how do i fly to elysian hold lmao

?

no flight path

[mystic barn]

are you kyrian

[dry trail]

ye found it xD

[mystic barn]

might have to talk to the guy in oribos

[dry trail]

anyone has a link to any good guide about kyrian soulbinds ?

[zealous heath]

jacelad made a nice video for it on youtube

[dry trail]

thanks

[hidden herald]

/cast [@target,help][@targettarget] Intervene

that macro should work right?

intervene target if its friendly, target of target if it's not

[wicked magnet]

i dont think i'd ever do that, target of target in an intervene macro

[sharp meteor]

intervene arena 1 and 2

maybe a target of target or mouseover for outside arena

[thick reef]

How is Arms in 1v1 against a Hunter? Would I have a good chance at winning?

[cosmic pumice]

no

[scarlet barn]

Most of the fights as warrior you dont have good chance 1v1

uNless you kill them in cd window 😄

[sharp meteor]

generally looking to avoid finding self in a 1v1 situation unless you're much better and/or more geared

can often 2-hit people who don't respect cds but that's mostly just gutter mmr arena or scuffed bg 1v1s

[thick reef]

Ah okay, this toxic hunter in a BG was telling me to 1v1 him

[scarlet barn]

heh

Well

tell him to post benchpress

[sharp meteor]

anybody demanding a 1v1 is coping

[fickle forge]

You suck in 1v1, but stand a slight chance as necro

[oblique plaza]

why when i intervene my arena partner he still be oneshoted after i invervene him

does intervene has delay or something that i doesnt know

[sharp meteor]

nope it's instantly

but only eats physical stuff

and breaks if u move away

although safeguard persists

[raw summit]

Doesnt save from a combust

Safeguard conduit helps though

[sharp meteor]

safeguard helps with that and u do eat all the rogues abilities as sub is like 100% physical

[oblique plaza]

kk ty

[sharp meteor]

biggest thing is movement i thnk though like if u intervene mw and they rolll away

[oblique plaza]

i know for that

[sharp meteor]

i just say vene vene vene when i using it and teammates have a little weakaura that shows exact duration

[oblique plaza]

so its useless to intervene my arena partner if paladin attack him with wings?

[sharp meteor]

paladin stuff is weird because a lot of it is eaten by intervene despite doing holy dam

can intervene judgment/toll for instance

just be careful with the extra burst scenarios as if u aren't in defensive and don't have ip up u can die actaully instantly

[plain wing]

is arms looking to be good on ptr again?

Guessing much wont change for 9.2 or how u guys feeling

[sharp meteor]

lookin to be another glorious season

albeit with perhaps 3 good covenants instead of just 2 but we'll see

[plain wing]

cool

man 3s seem insane

i feel completely overwhelmed in 2s.... yall are legends for being able to do 3s

[sharp meteor]

3v3 still makes me kind of anxious especially queuing into something weird

like ww/sub oh god oh fuck

[plain wing]

hahah

bro this 2s game I had last night was the 1st game ive had where i got those big numbers.... literally almost died from the monk, did a late fear, then popped everything, sharpened, and killed him line like 3 gcd's....

felt so good. He didnt even get any defensives off

28k execute crit on a like 250 ilvl monk

[fickle forge]

It's not phys dmg it intervenes

It's melee and ranged attacks

Aka weapon based attacks

Anything that's not directly a spell or AoE

[sharp meteor]

ah yes that's right

[plain wing]

i keep hearing about how good intervene is

best times to use it?

Like guessing either when cd's are popped on healer / sitting in stun

or like when theyre silenced etc

[sharp meteor]

usually just to mitigate goes on teammates, sometimes to let them cast

[plain wing]

ok cool

and lets say i intervene my healer during a go

[sharp meteor]

i usually use to cover my teammates doomwinds

[plain wing]

should i always use a defensive or nah

[sharp meteor]

then roughly off cd so it'll bea round for next go

[spice hornet]

i miss when overwatch was a talent

such a good trade off

intervene a spell and not have it for a go

[sharp meteor]

ah yes misshapen turbo with overwatch

casters in ruins

[spice hornet]

destro couldnt play the game

[sharp meteor]

singular shadow priests having the worst match of their lives

i also heroic leaped like 3 inches the other day

[nimble jasper]

i hate warlock matchups

[sharp meteor]

to dodge an unholy nova

[nimble jasper]

just

0 fun

[sharp meteor]

and the spriest lock his ability to juke after that

[nimble jasper]

no matter who wins

[sharp meteor]

yeah get me out

[spice hornet]

afflic bad design

[nimble jasper]

frost aff mld

i love

being 70% slowed all game

[spice hornet]

have to go mage else he spams 1 button at you that hits 20k+

have to watch afflic not get a fat deathbolt

[nimble jasper]

“but wizard cleaves take skill”

[plain wing]

is there a good discord / place to find people to play with in arena? Feel like the best way to improve is to consistently play with the same people

common denominator idk

maybe not

[spice hornet]

i feel like the best way to improve is to play with multiple different people, comps, and best of all just spam q

[plain wing]

fair enough

[trail coyote]

Yo apologies if this has been asked before, I got the conq axe from a box, if I buy the sword from the vendor do I get the elite appearance? that white is too clean

[full quiver]

gotta upgrade it to 2.1 lol

[plain wing]

how large is the skill gap from 1800-2100

[trail coyote]

zug fkn zug

not large at all its just cd management

like the diff between pressing wall and not

[plain wing]

im prolly not in a place where 2100 is feasible for me and my smooth brain... but maybe next season!

[trail coyote]

gz 2.1

[plain wing]

feel like 2100 players utilize omnibar and shit to really look ahead and set up go's and look ahead at upcoming enemy go's to render them useless etc

not at that level

[trail coyote]

its primarily on your own usage imop

imo*

[sharp meteor]

lmao no 2100 is still monkey especially this season

[trail coyote]

like don't warbreaker when u have 0 overpowers and MS is on cd

little shit like that lol

gz 21

[nimble jasper]

optimization?

no

gaspedal people

and actually trade some cds=2.1

[raw summit]

Ayy trill mes Cdew and Sam are all liquid gamers now

Very cool

[full quiver]

2100 is literally just making sure u use every button

[sharp meteor]

what is a liquid gamer

oh is that one those org things

[plain wing]

Ok 😦

feel like 2100 is sooooo far off

[nimble jasper]

yeah they got signed to liquid rn

[plain wing]

like seems like really good players..... i struggle in the 1800 bracket. Thanks for the tips bois

[nimble jasper]

part of it is prob cuz limit got signed to liquid

[plain wing]

Limit = liquid

[nimble jasper]

idk anytime i help friends get 2.1 its just a bunch of crayon eating teams

[plain wing]

Got rid of their old name. Stoked to see them doing pvp stuff too

[sharp meteor]

unsure of the implications but that's neat i suppose

[plain wing]

hahah ok

[nimble jasper]

backpedaling bm hunters

teams that dont cross cc

or trade everything for one minor go

[plain wing]

I feel like when i see people pop cd's I always use defensive or LoS. Matter of just queuing more I guess. Ty all

[sharp meteor]

yeah especially now 2v2 is a fiesta

male worgen with glasses throwing max range trap

at a healer who isn't in cc

[full quiver]

i was helping buddy get 1950 last night

[plain wing]

Yea I feel like I gotta use omnibar to see when certain stuns / cd's are coming up to gauge when they're about to set up or use a go.... thats the big diff to 2100 maybe. I dont do that at all. Mainly just react

[full quiver]

and played against so many rank 1s doing boosts at 2100-2200 mmr lol

was hilarious

[nimble jasper]

ngl my first duelist i didnt have omnibar

installed

[full quiver]

enh and ele healing in 2s is ridiculous

[nimble jasper]

psure theres players like pika who play without it

at least from what i can see his UI appears to not have one

[nimble jasper]

ran into brain once on rsham

actually juke god

[full quiver]

lol

[sharp meteor]

yeah buddy i had in mop didnt play with addons and always got glad

[full quiver]

we queued into enh sham/ rogue

almost didn't play sharpen

[sharp meteor]

like even if u don't knoww exact timings

u have feel for when stuff back up

[full quiver]

would've lost the game probably

enh did like 60k more healing than my buddy

took like 2 mins to kill him after rogue died lol

[nimble jasper]

and sometimes you just see people moving in

like they prob have cds

ready to go

[sharp meteor]

enh no sharpen

[full quiver]

wasn't sure if i'd need it vs enh/sub rogue lol

[plain wing]

2100 is a dream

[full quiver]

was thinking it was a cheese so duel, disarm, banner would be better

[plain wing]

that would be insane to get

2400 probably just never gonna happen ahhahaha

[nimble jasper]

i saw gekz carry some warrior last season to 2.1

that was hardstuck 1600

xd

[full quiver]

a good healer can carry warrior pretty easy

[nimble jasper]

venthyr orc sephuz war wat a time

yeah guy played 2 games with venruki once

[sharp meteor]

that was a great time last season

[nimble jasper]

the pov vs rogue mage was absolute comedy

[plain wing]

Do yall ever use disarm proactively, like not after warbreaker? But instead to delay a go etc? Like disarm when warriors cd's are back up and chain with storm bolt and your own go for example?

Or am i overthinking

[nimble jasper]

man would tak 3 globals

to respond with anything

[sharp meteor]

yeah in particular versus sub

because then they can't dance cheap

which if their teammates have already sent CC can fuck the go entirely

[nimble jasper]

rogue is usually the big one to pre disarm vs

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor so you just have to look at omnibar and when its off cd, kinda get a gauge when theyre gonna open?

[sharp meteor]

nah diminish to see when off dr

as that's when they look to setup

[plain wing]

how do you pre a rogue if they're in stealth for open? may be a stupid question

ohhh

[sharp meteor]

and if you can throw a wrench into their drs then they can't do anything until next dr

[plain wing]

stun dr gotcha

[nimble jasper]

if the mage goes for a db

[sharp meteor]

like most rms are gonna either gap or not sync up their stuff

[nimble jasper]

monks and shit can usually just pre rop

low rated rogue mages are super predictable

and some of them dont even pre cc

their kill targets

[sharp meteor]

i haven't really had to do anything too fancy because my comp is mostly just

druid getting restealth and incapping them and

most of them don't know how to deal with that

[nimble jasper]

like a good rogue mage will often tbh

sap kill target db sheep other guy

[sharp meteor]

we had a game where we just 2v2'd for the first 3 minutes of the game while the rdruid and rogue sat stealth

[nimble jasper]

so you cant pre wall/disarm

[sharp meteor]

because they legit couldn't figure out how to get anything rolling

[nimble jasper]

also those teams often

dont just switch their kill targets mid go

like mage busts and target walls

[sharp meteor]

yeah have to answer immediately and they swap

which is usually fine

[nimble jasper]

normally better teams would just

[sharp meteor]

haven't queued into good rm yet

[nimble jasper]

stun the other guy

and dump bust

to get cds

[sharp meteor]

90% of rm losses are just us not being on same page and overusing stuff

[nimble jasper]

like i feel alot of rm just

play extremely scripted

[sharp meteor]

thing is even if u know script it can be hard

because they can have reliable go every 30

[raw summit]

High IQ rogues and mages can Mix it up

[sharp meteor]

and u can't really pre it

[plain wing]

yea i struggle hard against rogue mage

feel like i can't do anything

probably struggle the most with that comp and anything hunter related

[sharp meteor]

so it's like 321 db u, cheap healer, poly healer, cheap you, then bust

is 90% of openers in 2s

[full quiver]

i will disarm bad warriors when i'm going for kill

because they will mash parry

and not know why they're dead lol

[nimble jasper]

i mean some dont cheap healer

[sharp meteor]

oh and offensive disarm on dk so they can't ds is decent

[nimble jasper]

and just go for db sheep

while you get pre sapped

[full quiver]

yeah disarm on DK near 25-30% is huge

[nimble jasper]

then if they get cds from you they just

stun healer and dump damage into him

for more cds

[full quiver]

that's like a free win in 2s

once u know what they're doing

and pre-do things before goes