pvp

[elder wigeon]

fuck mages man

[full quiver]

we usually just burn rogue down

[elder wigeon]

we don't dog rogue whole time, waste

swaps on healers to get more cds

[full quiver]

mage feels like a bait in kitty

[wheat jay]

I go mage with Kargish

[spice hornet]

remove ring of frost from fire pls and id be so happy

[wheat jay]

Most of the time

[full quiver]

are you maim/bashing healer with bolt on mage when u swap

[full quiver]

yeah kfc shits on mage lol

[elder wigeon]

I don't stun mage ever, if my feral wants to double stun, all for it

[full quiver]

gotchya

[elder wigeon]

I want my stun for the rogue because it can't be evaded

[full quiver]

you running mirror?

[elder wigeon]

No, that's troll

am i gonna reflect a poly for my feral?

[full quiver]

mind games

[wheat jay]

Ye and we can big time shut down rogue

[elder wigeon]

nah

[wheat jay]

Disarm, intervene, steel trap

[full quiver]

i'd been running mirror into jg and rmp

for mind games

[elder wigeon]

RMP triple covers, how am I ever gonna reflect a mindgames

jungle is never venthyr that's troll

[full quiver]

well we're at 2300 lol

not 2800

[wheat jay]

Jungle is nf

They dont need mindgames at all

[full quiver]

maybe it's just rating diff

but most priest i play against are venthyr with set up comps

[elder wigeon]

i only run mirror into double wizard and boomies

[full quiver]

we're also NA though

[fierce elm]

Jungle Priest cov doesnt matter when you just run at priest KEKW

[full quiver]

could be diff on EU lol

[elder wigeon]

every single jungle is nf

[full quiver]

guess i'll just run enduring every game

[elder wigeon]

you don't have to

into RPS i run sephuz

[full quiver]

i only have enduring/mirror on that char

well and EM lol

RPS feels bad as kitty

[main silo]

got any tip playing rsham and kyrian vs dh / priest ? we play at 2,1k and we got like 40% win against them.. dh fucks up my healer to much. i try to peel and help out but he cant sustain

[full quiver]

haven't done any warrior 2s since necro DH became a thing lol

used to just one shot the nf dh

[elder wigeon]

don't stack, hit priest all game

if he can't heal it, then tough shit, root the dh behind a pillar

[main silo]

ok we got better win % vs disc priest, problem is when they play holy

[full quiver]

rsham can save root, bring DH behind pillar and root him

he has no out

[main silo]

okok

guess maybe he needs to kite better

[elder wigeon]

disarm is also good for necro dh

[main silo]

yea i disarm the eye beam if im in range

[full quiver]

i don't really mind getting disarmed on DH

you have immo + bw still going, can still UBC fel rush

duel is more annoying

[elder wigeon]

yeah duel cucks them but it also cucks you

[full quiver]

yeh forces u on DH lol

[main silo]

u think necrolord is better vs DH's and hunters ? instead of kyrian

[elder wigeon]

no idea, I'm not that insane at 2's I prefer the playstyle of necrolord over kyrian but kyrian is probably overall the best

[full quiver]

i played both to 2.2 a while back with hpriest and kyrian overall felt a lot better

necro was way more fun though

[elder wigeon]

I've played both to 2.6 with rsham, it's que dependent

necro is just way more fun than kyrian

[sharp meteor]

idk why my healers like 2s

"why do you seem annoyed"

as we queue into rdruid/surv

for the xth time

[wheat jay]

[warped warren]

necro
haste
go next

[wheat jay]

Ok hear me out here

What about

Go vers

[full quiver]

yeah 2s are fun when you're getting someoen from 1800-2100

i don't wanna queue into good rdruids lol

[sharp meteor]

i can enjoy myself until somewhere between 2100 and 2300 because that's where people die in the first or second warbreaker

probably higher now 2s felt super infalted a month or two ago

[trail coyote]

vs mw war do i just go war?

or swap once we get mw trink

[spice hornet]

you can swap mw if he in a bad palce

i cant handle boosting my friends alts between 1800-2100 its literally just shit mm hunters all day

then i go q 3s and its boom/dh

fun meta

[trail coyote]

dh rdruid

feelsbadman

[trail coyote]

Who are your favorite warriors to watch? Best educational pov?

So troll dropping back to back 18-20k executes at 234ilvl lmao

[plain wing]

do most of yall cd before or after warbreaker

avatar etc

trynna avoid getting shut down when i grow tenfold in size with avatar and banner then press WB

[elder wigeon]

i fish disarms with warbreaker if i can't outplay with parry or bladestorm or offensively trinket for it

or other cc

[sharp meteor]

yeah i generally fish for cc/disarms etc with first bolt warbreaker

waddle up, piercing/overpower/hamstring, etc, mortal strike up, then bolt into warbreaker and they'll remember the 20 times a warrior split them in half and they'll trinket and use a defensive

[nimble jasper]

idk why people do this to only warbreaker bolt

[sharp meteor]

it's like the seraphim hoj thing

hmm maybe i don't use

then wings and toll come out

oh

[nimble jasper]

tho been on the other end helping friends on monk

[sharp meteor]

also nobody sees if u have sd proc

[nimble jasper]

and ill q into wars who instant intim shout xuen

no other cds

[sharp meteor]

yeah shitty tony the tiger doesn't do anything relative to bonedust images keefers lmaoo

uwu -dance of gg-

[nimble jasper]

i love mirrors where they dont cross me

and i just rop his boendust

and man looks lost

[sharp meteor]

bigly rdruid hpriest buffs on ptr

am i fried

am i seeing this right

Inner Peace (Talent) now has an additional effect – While channeling Tranquility, you take 20% reduced damage and are immune to knockbacks.

BRUHH

[nimble jasper]

rdruids need help bro

props to the talented players making it work

s keying to elite

i prob killed a blizz employee on monk

through tranq

sowwy

[plain wing]

Like i just cant do anything ever

ill pop warbreaker into cd's

and immediately get shut down

[sharp meteor]

literally same

[gloomy dock]

Vulpera

[plain wing]

just 23k demonbolts

nice

wut is this game

[nimble jasper]

dont

stay in lock line

[sharp meteor]

yeah one day ill figure out how demo works

[nimble jasper]

when hes blasting

[plain wing]

whats up with all these locks playing demo in bg's

fucking troll

[sharp meteor]

right now i just run when big demon come out

[nimble jasper]

i see any cd

from a warlock

i insta los

tbh

[sharp meteor]

deci bolt = bad

[plain wing]

idk i just feel like i never connect with cd's for big dam

[sharp meteor]

tyrant = big bad

[plain wing]

between cc, stuns, disarm

immunes

[nimble jasper]

tyrant=raw dog you

[sharp meteor]

skyfury + psyfiend + decim/tyrant = unga bunga run awunga

[nimble jasper]

when a lock player

dms me mad

cuz i afked

on all his cds

[sharp meteor]

then ran out with my buttons

and split his ass in half

[spice hornet]

i wish people dmd me more

always makes me giggle

[sharp meteor]

luv killing warlocks and mages

rogues, too

unf

[spice hornet]

instead i just tbagged or emoted

[nimble jasper]

i need to q 2s more like bfa

need petkick to spit emote me

more

[spice hornet]

when they kill my buds bad geared alts that im trying to help carry

wtf bfa s4 2s as a warrior gave me depression

auto lose to gushing dk healer, 1.8k in 3s CR DHs at 2500 in 2s, assass rogue gush

[nimble jasper]

rogue priest 2s in notorious

WE LOVE KILLING 2.4 DH PLAYERS IN OPENER

XD

[spice hornet]

yeah had to pray drest crit and the dh didnt blade dance dodge your shit

[nimble jasper]

dk rdruid in bfa

actually

kms

LOL

dh as any melee in 2s besides rogue

was big lmao

[sharp meteor]

i had a folder of dh whispers when grinding the 2s on my rogue

they can't handle getting out-gushed

[spice hornet]

fkk i shouldve played assass rogue in bfas4

[nimble jasper]

worked in notorious too

[sharp meteor]

it was easily the most W key spec

[spice hornet]

it still is

[nimble jasper]

you just pved any dh rsham team to death

[spice hornet]

auto attack #1 dmg

to this day

[nimble jasper]

outlaw better

in 2s

[sharp meteor]

all my locks quit and i won't play with a mage so i have to find sp to play my rogue zz

[spice hornet]

lul why did they quit its a good time to be a lock rn

[sharp meteor]

i need to figure out what to queue outlaw with in 3s

like another melee

[spice hornet]

maybe a WW?

[sharp meteor]

maybe dk or ww

yeah

[nimble jasper]

rps is more fun than rmp

never was a fan of rlx personally

[sharp meteor]

yeah gimme rps any day over rmx

lock is eh

[nimble jasper]

idk how people q rm 2s for hours

shit is so boring

[sharp meteor]

yeah run while mage 1v2s zz

[nimble jasper]

"ok we afk for drs"

rinse

repeat

mage 1v2 i jack it in stealth

[sharp meteor]

actual raid boss mage

[nimble jasper]

engaging gameplay

altho i hated dh rsham mirrors in bfa

legit hear benny hill soundtrack in my head

[sharp meteor]

somebody greenlit spirit pack

[nimble jasper]

surv rdruid as melee tho

in either season

[sharp meteor]

20% per sec heal

[nimble jasper]

ermm expac

i love being spam cc'ed

all game

[nimble jasper]

someone greenlit dread season lively spirit

reminder

[sharp meteor]

yeah i did one key with infested and noped out of that patch

after getting the plate elite

[nimble jasper]

i think my favorite is still

tsg into a fire mage

reflect one gpy and dark sim

man eats 2 of his own

[spice hornet]

Hahahaha nice

ice blocks it cause nothing can punish a fire mage

Nothin personnel, kid

[nimble jasper]

idk

watching necro mm hunters instant seed a fire mage

is funny af

[spice hornet]

Dark sim should be baseline

That sounds awesome

[sharp meteor]

it broke pve

that's why it's an honor talent now

[plain wing]

does anyone else struggle to get an opener off? If i warbreaker into stun and then pop cd's theres only like 1 second left on stun.... If i pop cd's before stun I usually get an immediate disarm, cc, stun etc

before stun goes off

[sharp meteor]

stun, warbreaker, another ability, bladestorm as stun is fading and they're mashing their stun/disarm

[elder wigeon]

you also have the option of walking away as you warbreaker to give them no opportunity to disarm

then bladestorming back in

but you're very likely to get disarmed off the bladestorm

[sharp meteor]

yep moving out slightly as you warbreaker although careful to not whif it entirely

then move back into melee range and bs

[elder wigeon]

yeah I've wiffed a few trying to max range it

[plain wing]

@sharp meteor people keep telling me to warbreaker before stun

and pop cd's during

if i pop cd's before stun i can never get it off

[trail coyote]

Yeah I’ve noticed that too, feel rushed inside of stormbolt

[elder wigeon]

this is where haste is really cool

[full quiver]

Need 16% haste

[sharp meteor]

haste gang

[plain wing]

dogshit

real talk, how does a warrior beat any range class 1 v 1

or open world

like

I just straight up cant hit them

meanwhile they open cast on me.

Never have been so triggered by a video game.

[sharp meteor]

why u tryna 1v1 people on arms lmaoo

[warm quarry]

Anyone do rated pvp in here as a fury warrior?

[nimble jasper]

what he said, dont try to 1v1 as arms

[warm quarry]

Was seeing how they donin arenas/rbgs and whatnot

[nimble jasper]

fury is a case of

why are you not arms

in pvp

[warm quarry]

Just seems like a fun spec

But curious if fury is complete dog shit in rated pvp

[sharp meteor]

have seen a few times

not bad but

not arms

[warm quarry]

Gotcha so basically arms shits on everyone

[sharp meteor]

arms has good buttons, fury doesn't

fury damage isn't bad

[nimble jasper]

fury just feels like

a bad dh

honestly

[ember rose]

Arms is that guy

No joke Fury is actually S tier melee

It has the ability to spec Arms

[twilit ridge]

I WANT TO DIE BRO

[sharp meteor]

ah yes rbgs the deepest circle of hell

[nimble jasper]

why do rbgs

i think rbgs give me more pain than people that play rdru sv 2s

[twilit ridge]

I wanted GM title

might pug hero and sit it

we see

after tthat I never have to do tthem again

[sharp meteor]

sweet release

i am not looking forward to going back and doing them eventually

[nimble jasper]

people care about hero?

knew a guy who got it in cata and he said the scene has degenerated so much

[sharp meteor]

it's an achievement

[twilit ridge]

RBGS are inflated again

[sharp meteor]

my tiny brain needs it

[nimble jasper]

thought hero was just if you were the “in group”

[twilit ridge]

but

im close to it

[nimble jasper]

aka the 1-2 cliques that even play rbgs

[twilit ridge]

might as well get it

[nimble jasper]

in this game

[sharp meteor]

hero isn't that exclusive

[twilit ridge]

rbgs are toxic

[nimble jasper]

does hero not follow the same % cutoff

as r1

[sharp meteor]

0.5

[twilit ridge]

hero range is 2390 on alliance rn

its so low

[nimble jasper]

man what

LOL

[sharp meteor]

DED

[nimble jasper]

dead bracket

[twilit ridge]

exactly

[nimble jasper]

people say arena is dead

[twilit ridge]

RBG players are bad too

[nimble jasper]

and psure r1 in arena is still over 3k

[sharp meteor]

rbgs might be alive if u could do them without interacting with rbg players

[twilit ridge]

most are 1700 in arena

then they flame you

[nimble jasper]

i mean i still remember last season

[twilit ridge]

this

[nimble jasper]

the number of raiders who got 2100 for gear

[sharp meteor]

like just gimme squad of arena players

[nimble jasper]

and never got above 1400

in arena

lmao

[twilit ridge]

its boosted and free

a lot of rbgers dont respect arena

[nimble jasper]

i ran into a multi hero rogue on mine in eots once

[twilit ridge]

they tilt if you talk about itt

[nimble jasper]

this guy trinkets my blind for 0 reason

and i just global him in a duel

for it

[twilit ridge]

tbh

[sharp meteor]

yeah

[twilit ridge]

I just want hero cuz it would look good on my orc when i swap horde

Hero of the Horde just sounds cool

[sharp meteor]

ya

[twilit ridge]

idc about "prestige"

it just sounds cool

[sharp meteor]

i want points from last few rbg achievements then probs avoiding them forever

[twilit ridge]

trust me dude

its very rare to find a chill rbg group

[nimble jasper]

last i heard

[twilit ridge]

theres always at least one person

[nimble jasper]

80% of the highend rbg community

belongs on an fbi watchlist

[twilit ridge]

"highend"

bahaha

rbgers remind me of old wow players

[nimble jasper]

yeah its “highend” only in the sense they’re at the highest of the bracket

[twilit ridge]

a lot of them are petty and try to go out of their way to fuck someone over

[twilit ridge]

yea Ik but like

to me

highend rbg is like

1600 arena

[nimble jasper]

yeah

its basically that

[twilit ridge]

based Mich

[nimble jasper]

asides from the bored r1s

who q once in a blue moon

for honor

[twilit ridge]

I used to like RBGS back in the day

just playing with friends

[sharp meteor]

queued a few rbgs with arena squad for honor and we had

4 warriors

and we all sat bases

[twilit ridge]

I pugged my Grand Marshal game

[sharp meteor]

wonder if i can just novoice balance

[twilit ridge]

tbh with you

I no voiced 25 of my glad wins

i no voice pugged to 2390

sat in lfg for so long

i no longer feel anything at all

[sharp meteor]

yeah like i am pretty sure i can notice if they're setting up and sharpening a kill target

and then just otherwise do pve dam

[twilit ridge]

IM 15 WINS AWAY MAN

AHHHHH

[nimble jasper]

novoiced in bfa s4 but

it was rmp so

[sharp meteor]

u gon git it

[twilit ridge]

BAHAHAHA

[nimble jasper]

in my defense i played rppal to 2.4

on like an 80% winstreak

[sharp meteor]

assa destro hpal was

the most relaxing thing in bfa

havoc coil, kidney off

kidney off dr

repeat

[nimble jasper]

idk i could not find a competent lock hpal for it

they were all

mlp monkeys

lmfao

[sharp meteor]

yeah went to pug glad wins s1 sl here and my partner is like hey venth warr is good with mage

and every single one

[nimble jasper]

everyone said rmpal was better than rmp but

[sharp meteor]

rm or mlx player

cooked

extra crispy

[nimble jasper]

my winrate was always way higher

with a priest

than a pally

idk why

[sharp meteor]

my healer liked his paladin more and we played a lot of 2s

so just added destro into the mix

[nimble jasper]

kinda goes both ways tbh

rsham friend of mine was saying how

so many wars in s1

couldnt q anything besides ret war

or turbo

[sharp meteor]

rdruid splay

eat all the melee unga bungas

but warlock players

[nimble jasper]

lol

[sharp meteor]

too stoopid

[nimble jasper]

you know what felt really good

[sharp meteor]

not queuing into warlocks

[nimble jasper]

bfa s4 killing an splay in opener

cuz lock greeds trinket

into kidney bomb double claws

[sharp meteor]

many such cases

[nimble jasper]

and decides to trinket at the last sec

only to get restunned and die

splay is like my most hated comp to play against

as anything

tbh

[sharp meteor]

actual suffering for everybody in the match

take my points i care not

get me out

[nimble jasper]

yeah the priest i q’ed with

said he hates playing splay lmao

much rather rps godcomp or wps

[sharp meteor]

it isn't fun

yeah

[nimble jasper]

but man

dh boomy rn

giving me sinister dhdk vibes

of stupid tankiness

[sharp meteor]

statcheck city

glad i haven't queued into any good ones yet

[nimble jasper]

blurring air

doesnt die

ok

[sharp meteor]

cringe birds just explode a minute in

[nimble jasper]

yeah hitting boomy seems the play

dh is uhh

lol

[sharp meteor]

didn't know this dh we queued into the other day was playing short meta

and my partner threw all his stuff into the iframe

aaaa

[nimble jasper]

forgot that talent still exists

well except rmxs kill the rsham a bunch it seems

[trail coyote]

100% go boomy or sham depending on your comp

Dh good on swaps or hard opens

[warm quarry]

I like Fury warrior rotation and abilities more than arms 😦

Just wished Fury would be viable in pvp

[safe pecan]

It is

The thing is arms is definetly superior

[misty jewel]

hey guys, im playing necro war right now do you think we will be swapping to kyrian or venthyr for 9.2?

sorry if this question has been asked searched for it but couldnt find anything 🙂

have a nice day all 🙂

[twilit ridge]

Play what you want

[elder wigeon]

it's not very likely, the glory legendary isn't really that bad and works well for the classes we like being necrolord for

[misty jewel]

ty

[elder wigeon]

I believe times you want to be kyrian you'll be kyrian and the necrolord meta will still be alive and well

[thick reef]

yea like rets and taht

ww/dk too

[spice hornet]

worst thing to die to in this game (or your partners) is sub rogue 100-0ing in duel

no cap

[shy aurora]

Anyone know how many runs it would Take to farm 10k soul ash? Cant log in and figure it out atm

[spice hornet]

umm depends on the layer youre gonna wanna spam 9s

and i think its like 900ish soul sash per 9

[shy aurora]

Aight

[mortal galleon]

anyone know what base lvl for pvp gear is gonna be in 9.2

[sharp meteor]

warlock friend screaming about how he tries to drop a gate in the new maldraxxus map and two warriors leap directly from their entrance to the arena onto his face

guess it's smaller than it looks

[spice hornet]

im fine with that

tired of fighting locks on z-axis map

[thick reef]

its always +26. so for example max will be 259+26=285. Do the same for other levels of gear.

[sharp meteor]

yep

[spice hornet]

aaai hate that pirzochek lock guy so go damn much

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah alcatraz has so many games played

his meme 1-shot spec is so good now

[spice hornet]

dudes mastered it

its me on my alts tho and hes doing some carry shit like at 1900 and i have to tell the people from lfg "this lock is going to meme you, dispel soul rot"

they die anyway

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah it's weird healers are conditioned to not dispel ua

when really it destroys the lock especially on their go

rotate kicks/dispels as long as there's no follow up on the silence the lock is just in shambles

[stoic terrace]

Thinking about working on my alt warrior and just a simple question as i only do pvp fury or arms?

I mostly do rbgs

[sharp meteor]

fury in rbgs seems like trolling

you're just so susceptible to being swapped to

at least outside of the rat leagues

you just get sharpened and/or stunned and eat every healer external or die instantly

[somber comet]

Not unless

You go

NECROLEAPER FURY

110% MS with 100% uptime on rampage

Fleshcraft shielf for extra HP

More stam on 2handers = more HP on Fleshcraft

Leaper? Unkitable.

You'll be a god

Amazing PvPers like the WoWhead PvP guidewriters will SHIVER when you arrive with your 3k.

Don't miss out on being the GOD of NFT-PvP today.

[stoic terrace]

😂 lol

[cosmic pumice]

guys i hit 1600

it happened

[steady tiger]

what can my war duo do when hes getting bursted at round start and he has no rage to ignore pain

no more rage gen for wars?

[sharp meteor]

dstance/medallion/bladestorm/parry/disarm/fear/reflect?

[trail coyote]

^^ xD

[sharp meteor]

also have you tried the

bis macro?

[lucid walrus]

not die

[plain wing]

thanks for all your help over the weeks. after stepping into 3s for the first time ive realized im just not cut out for pvp at all. I run around like a headless chicken and so much going on around me that I just end up tunneling and freezing and not pressing anything

or just spamming random abilities

and do 100k damage over the course of a 1 min game

Calling it quits here.

Ty all.

do less damage than healers and provide nothing. When shit is hitting the fan i just stand there hitting random abilities. Just not cut out for pvp. Hats off to all that have brains/heads that actually allow them to pvp and know what theyre doing. And im not even able to look at omnibar.... cant even imagine how people are able to track that on top of everything else going on.

🙏 \

[full quiver]

lol u just gotta play more games and fix ur attitude

[plain wing]

nah ive been playing the game for over 10 years

i just dont click with pvp

i cant track abilities.... i just stare at what the enemy is doing and tunnel my own abilities

havent gotten any better.

Bowing out - impressive how anyone can undertrand whats going on in a pvp game with so fucking much going on.

brain really cant comprehend it.

[elder wigeon]

you can't keep track of everything at all times, that's why tailoring your UI to your needs is important

spreading your mental bandwidth too wide will fuck you over

pay attention to certain things when it matters

[sharp meteor]

yeah you kind of have a priority of stuff you're paying attention to

you will miss stuff but hopefully not the super important things

there's also having an idea of when it'll come out, instead of playing entirely reactively

[trail coyote]

Seen some people in videos using banner late after first war breaker / saving it for second war breaker in 2s, thoughts on this?

[elder wigeon]

against certain comps it's troll to banner first go because that's when you're gonna get shut down the hardest

[sharp meteor]

at low-mid mmr i just send bolt warbreaker and that usualy scares people because they're used to people sending everything in opener

or wait to be on dr before you send

like vs rm

it just

depends

[elder wigeon]

dread glad set?

[sharp meteor]

bfa s1 plate elite looks like ye

i dislike the helm, and how illusions appear on the axe

great otherwise

[elder wigeon]

what we workin with

[sharp meteor]

idk what wep to use

town between the artifact one from the guy in the order hall and the deraged axe from zuldrak

[mystic barn]

wack

[sharp meteor]

also wonder if the mt set is the only set that actually works with the 300 win tabard

[full quiver]

Current elite set with sword plus the winter enchant from Santa looks sick af

That's what I'm running

The sword makes the enchant massive

[sharp meteor]

yeah is what i am using on my dk

winter's grasp or w/e actually looks solid

[full quiver]

Yeah

[sharp meteor]

because it's big unlike all the other illusions these days

big fuck off cloud of ice

[full quiver]

I wish current enchant for 2100 looked like thay lol

[sharp meteor]

they scraped it off the floor of sylvs platform

BLEH

[full quiver]

Black enchant like that would be sicn

[mystic barn]

why didn’t you tell me there was an enchant

[sharp meteor]

there's a cloak too lmao

[full quiver]

I got it by accident

[sharp meteor]

which i only recently realized

[full quiver]

I was doing it out of boredom and got enchant

First try

[sharp meteor]

"prestigious" unchained cloak or w/e

[full quiver]

Apparently it's a pretty rare drop

Wow nice delete @mystic barn

[mystic barn]

I was talking about Santa enchant

[full quiver]

I saw it

[sharp meteor]

also dude there are 5 mounts 5 tabards that are color coded

[full quiver]

That's what I have qcp

[sharp meteor]

and they messed up the order by mismatching them

[mystic barn]

Yea the tabard doesn’t match the cloak this season

[full quiver]

I need this season glad

[sharp meteor]

"hey phil does the green cloak go with the black dragon"

[full quiver]

So I can use my elite set and enchant

Forever

[sharp meteor]

"there's a black tabard right here"

[mystic barn]

won’t be getting a matching cloak for it either or vice versa

[sharp meteor]

"fuck it, send it"

[mystic barn]

Since next season is last

[sharp meteor]

2 unused drakes

[elder wigeon]

they did that in mop too

there was more colors

green and blue iirc

[sharp meteor]

bfa had 3 unused protos including a pale and green

and they used black/red

[raw summit]

MoP dragons bang

[elder wigeon]

fuck the protos man

[mystic barn]

S1 mount and tabard looks so good

[sharp meteor]

no i love the protos they're cute

[raw summit]

Blue bfa prot slaps

[elder wigeon]

give me cata mounts

[sharp meteor]

derpy run

they have tiny arms

[elder wigeon]

cataclysmic gladiator mount bis

[sharp meteor]

look at the little trex arms

rarrrr

[elder wigeon]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/496903-cataclysmic-gladiators-twilight-drake.jpg bis glad mount

[sharp meteor]

lovely

[mystic barn]

wack

[sharp meteor]

i still like wod and legion ones the most though

and wotlk tabards

[fierce elm]

@mystic barn STOP POSTING MY WARRIOR

[mystic barn]

my warrior now

[spice hornet]

why does it feel like you're more likely to q into lock teams on blades edge

[warped warren]

rigged game

[sharp meteor]

same reason my partner says something like "i feel great, haven't seen a warlock in days" then we queue into two different splays

on mugambooga and blades edge

[warped warren]

ORCMERTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[fierce elm]

Qcp stealing my identity

[gentle roost]

Hey I main Kyrian Ret, I am just wondering what’s the best covenant an arms warrior can have to synergize with me in 2s? Kyrian spear? Or the necrolord banner?

[gloomy dock]

Spear

[neon pecan]

Playing war ret in 2s at about 2,3k mmr. How do you handle dh+ heal? And what would be best strategy for resto druid+dps? Ty guys

[elder wigeon]

you'll probably have to split vs the dh + heal and converge on one target for kill attempts. for rdruid + dps, you're gonna have to pressure dps enough to get the rdruid to put cen ward on dps then hard swap with stuns and attempt to one shot the rdruid, they're gonna run tranq and you'll need to rinse and repeat

[fleet ivy]

Guys where can i see a complete guide for arms pvp ? i am new and will start to play PVP

[elder wigeon]

most recent guide from magnusz https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1oY5EiRic-GLsl1aMC_x5XpnZeaE53IVuInmWI2vJt7k/mobilebasic

[neon pecan]

@elder wigeon Thanks for the advice! I'll try it.

[twilit ridge]

Pugging glad is the true wow experience

[fleet ivy]

what is the best covenant for us now ?

[shy aurora]

All are Nice man

Gz raime on inc glad

[thick reef]

Stopped playing last year do you still have to grind a lot of pve/legendary shit to be valid in pvp?

[shy aurora]

Yes

Or not alot of pve

But you gotta farm alot of honor

[thick reef]

Oh nice so you can gear from only pvp?

[shy aurora]

Yes

[fleet ivy]

is worth to buy blue items from honor ?

[shy aurora]

No not really

[gloomy beacon]

Depends on how bad your gear is tbh

[floral ingot]

True

Especially with all the gatekeeping dh+boomie teams

[fleet ivy]

then , for what we use the honor ?

[gloomy beacon]

Upgrade conquest gear

[fleet ivy]

in what order u think i should buy conquest gear ?

weapon first and then armors ?

and best way to farm honor ?

[floral ingot]

Comp stomp

Will be up next week

[sharp meteor]

i think biggest pieces best value

but also early on probably preferable to gamble on at least a few chests

really just need to sit down and grind out a bit of conq

then random bgs for honor

to upgrade

[fleet ivy]

and best way to farm conq without gear ? 😦

[sharp meteor]

have friend help

or bite bullet and q

can also mix in some korthia and/or battlegrounds for a bit of gear

and/or grab some crafted AH stuff

i went to setup an alt warr a while back and had to queue with random dps for my initial 2v2 games lel

[atomic gale]

spell reflect should reflect full damage of spells

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[sharp meteor]

blanket spell reflection pls mages fire blarsting it off gcd while casting is cringe

[paper oracle]

i'd be okay if they could only cast fireblast while casting a fire spell or something along those lines

but when i outplay and get the reflect off before the DB

the fact he can remove SR with FB while casting poly

stupid man

[sharp meteor]

also bust off gcd so towards the end of their fireball they bust point blank pyro blast pyro and in 2 gcds they do like 40k dam

they all running command and rogue running tricks so suddenly partner just fucking explodes if we aren't super quick

[thick reef]

yea

its dumb

[trail coyote]

Saw the comp stomp chatter earlier, how much honor does that net per? Is it better than the honor buffed RBGs we had a few weeks ago?

[sharp meteor]

it is a reasonable amount of honor for how little you have to try

also fast renown gainz if u wanna setup other covenants

[trail coyote]

Perfect I need that for Kyr

[gloomy beacon]

I played 50 2s game yesterday, won 30 of them and went from renown 22-24… what the heck lol

Game hates me 😦

[sharp meteor]

arena renown gains in shambles

idk why epic bgs are like 70-90% until 80

[thick reef]

yeah arenas r kinda meh for renown

bad rng

[buoyant shale]

is it better to run wps as necro or kyrian?

[sharp meteor]

spear imo

like necro is fine but

being able to pin two people off your teammates 👌 or yourself, even

[buoyant shale]

appreciate it

[thick reef]

u use spear for peels or setups more?

for wps

[sharp meteor]

haven't queued it in a hot minute but i think that it depends and can sometimes be both

spear them off your shaman, he runs away, your priest drops his unholy nova and psyfiend and they're just in shambles because they can't kill it

lots of specs have a way out of spear but a good chunk of them just have to sit it

[thick reef]

that makes sense yeah

always using it for 2 ppl? or 1

[spice hornet]

Arena renown is scuffed

Sorta

I’ve noticed that characters I’ve made after 9.1.5 (I only do arena on tbem) get renown like crazy literally every other win all the way to 78

But my main, gets no renown for arena wins. 20 wins no renown (for other covenants that I didn’t max)

Others have noticed this too

My 2nd warrior who I had 50 renown before 9.1.5, hundreds of games only 64 renown

[sharp meteor]

ideally two ofc but sometimes you'll only hit one

most people don't split until u send it

so can just kind of sit on it until they stack

actually can't win as turb if we stack when spear off cd so have to do a weird little dance split thing

[thick reef]

yea for sure

thanks dude

been droping alot idk what to que seems like i can only go up as ret/warr everyone else from lfg is just a idiot

[mystic barn]

Ret war is a pretty idiot proof comp

[brittle torrent]

hey guys, I just returned since 9,1, was venthyr, is venthyr still good for pvp or do I need to change covenant? And if so what is the best legendary currently so I dont spend unneccessary gold

[spice hornet]

venthyr is not good at all its probably the worst

the dmg of condemn did not scale well

compared to execute

@brittle torrent if necro, enduring blow, if kyrian, the kyrian leggo

[sharp meteor]

so the issue with venth is that execute got buffed and armor got nerfed, so it chops bigly now, whereas condemn is unchanged and fell off as a result imo

[brittle torrent]

which is the kyrian leggo 😛

[mild pier]

so is arms/disc just garbage now in comaprison to everything else?

[sharp meteor]

it's not bad, but necro/kyrian just got buffed

[sharp meteor]

i imagine it's fine especially if priest is nf

might get eaten in mirrors though

[mild pier]

Do they not do damage anymore?

My disc did less than 10k damage two games in a row while the other teams healers were pumping

[thick reef]

my holypriest buddy can also do a little burst as kyrian. when is away with dps on him he sometimes killed them. but when ur healer needs to heal. its hard for healer to find time to do damage.

[spice hornet]

no its a decent comp, have played it to around 2500 nf disc running this mana generating build

[mild pier]

I mean I out damaged the other team so like

Their healer somehow healed more and did substantially more damage

[brittle torrent]

whats best covenant companion tree for kyrian arms

[spice hornet]

kleia or mikankk

every kyrian warr i see is mik

that stun is so god damn annoying

[brittle torrent]

haha thanks 😛

[sharp meteor]

honestly all three seem to have their place, which is kind of neat

or at least it seems like they all have potential

[spice hornet]

the 100-0 in duel build so so tilting

[elder wigeon]

rogues are a different breed

[full quiver]

if i ever make a rogue that's the only thing i'm playing

[elder wigeon]

just play outlaw in 2's and be a scumbag

played against outlaw mw in 2's and I couldn't find 1 millisecond of fun

[mild pier]

Is it possible to face teams at 1900 that aren't in full duelist gear? Or are we past that point in the season? lol

Getting my fucking ass handed to me

[full quiver]

Probably not a gear problem lol

Played disc for the first time ever and got 2k couple days ago and barely know wtf I'm doing with like 240pvp ilvl

[nimble jasper]

did you use bis macro

for it tho

[full quiver]

i only have bis macro for arms

what's disc one?

[mild pier]

Yeesh lol

[nimble jasper]

the joke was playing with a warrior using bis macro

[full quiver]

ooooh

no it was with my buddy on his dh alt

[nimble jasper]

honestly if you know how to press fear mindgames

[full quiver]

i just gave him PI + Dark arch and sent mind games shackle lmao

[nimble jasper]

and press a few damage buttons

already better than 90% of discs

at 2.1

[full quiver]

yeah 2s feels ridiculously inflated

[nimble jasper]

anytime i q with lfg

into rogue priest

and get feared without a dispel

and guy complains when he gets kidney mindgames'ed

[full quiver]

lol

[nimble jasper]

its so scripted its funny

[full quiver]

if u just keep spamming games you'll get it

helps if you play with same person

[mild pier]

Yeah I have zero healer friends

It's rough lol

[full quiver]

add people after session

[nimble jasper]

lots of lfg just

do the dumbest things

[mild pier]

Yeah I'm spamming, I'm getting better for sure just frustrating. As soon as I climb over a wall I run into another one

Hard stuck at 2k

[trail coyote]

2s vs MM hunter, I’m like 236 ilvl so super low and that makes things tough, but are you guys going hunter or healer here?

Feel like if I don’t take disarm and sit hunter I’m dead so fast

[spice hornet]

hunter

[sharp meteor]

i have heemed every mm hunter i have queued into

i do not know how people make the spec work

[spice hornet]

ive fought some really anoying ones at higher 2s

actually obnoxious

[elder wigeon]

congrats

[raw summit]

gz

[sharp meteor]

🥳

[twilit ridge]

tyty

[mild pier]

Grats dude

[somber comet]

@twilit ridge 6+ toons glad this season... im higher xp on rsham than ur war .... and its my 8th alt..... r1 on 3 classes.... but all g brother . gl in your ques, genuinely hope you finish ur wins without stress.

[twilit ridge]

BAHAHAH I love it

[twilit ridge]

Ty

[mild pier]

Why you gotta flex like that

[marble shuttle]

hey i posted a forum post on my thoughts on pvp scaling and what i think could help wow. just wanna know if i have permission to post the link here so yall could read and see what yall think.

[full quiver]

Should be fine to post blizz forum in here

[marble shuttle]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-scaling-oo/1171333

lol works for me xD

[sharp meteor]

thinking about when i could comfortably recommend that a friend come back to the game

[marble shuttle]

i feel that. and it doesnt feel good to think about =/

[sharp meteor]

like it feels fine if you start early

so much honor coming in late

[marble shuttle]

my warrior doesnt feel any negative effects of this gearing system cuz its what i start with and what ill end with. my alts however i play when i wanna try something new and then im like wait all this grinding just to get a toe into the door? cant learn a new class when im dieing to things i should never die to. /shrug

[sharp meteor]

being able to mail a dozen boxes over then get 1400-1800 makes it reasonable aside from the

honor to upfrade stuff although the first few ranks super cheap

idk why so many people refuse to play ranked though it's weird

so many people that just need to sit down and hammer out 20-50 games for 1400 and they like nah

[grand scaffold]

yo

i smacked 2300 playing fury in 2's

[graceful quarry]

pog

gz

[grand scaffold]

😄

[warped warren]

trashmog

[sick grove]

Whats up with all the arms warriors going necro in pvp? was looking at stuff on murlok and it all conflicts with every guide here, on wowhead and icyveins.

I want to stay kyrian, i love baby cage but i'm just curious

[warped warren]

its just nicer to play, banner is good, shields are cool and your go doesnt revolve around hitting a spear

[sick grove]

thank you

yeah, missing a spear feels so bad sometimes lol

[warped warren]

not only that, half the classes get to negate it

while banner is the alpha and omega of their life

[sick grove]

I think I'll need to level my necro renown up anyways due to necro fury looking really good in 9.2, I'll try out necro arms in pvp in the meantime

[grand scaffold]

is siegebreaker or reckless abandon better

[mild pier]

Banner makes you hit like a fucking freight train

[mild pier]

When you guys are training a hpal or something that it's to stick on do you save all your big damage cds for one go or space them out for consistent damage over a longer time?

[spice summit]

Hiii, as a fury NF, or we going with korayn or Niya in arena 2v2 ?

[mystic barn]

wow so deep

[ember rose]

Arms

[spice summit]

What's the point of that answer when I mention fury

[grand scaffold]

go niya

the mastery is really good

[spice summit]

Thxxx

[grand scaffold]

np

[scarlet barn]

To make your life easier

[grand scaffold]

for fury spear do you run signet or elysian might

[elder wigeon]

I'd probably run signet still

I'd play necro fury honestly

[formal creek]

For arms is kyrian looking to be best for double lego in arena?

I had my EB lego on belt, gonna get ripped to buy the piece on helm slot

[elder wigeon]

kyrian benefits a lot from double legendary for sure

whether it be EM + EB or EM + unhinged, or simply being able to run EM + reflect vs RMP/DH boomie

I don't think double legendary will be good enough for kyrian to make it better than necrolord in comps/situations where necorlord is already the best

glory is a nice QOL addition to necrolord considering how much extra colossus smash we're getting

[formal creek]

Ah I see, didnt really think necro would still be better. interesting

[sharp meteor]

i think it depends on synergies it should still be fine even if glory isn't crazy

[elder wigeon]

I don't know for absolute fact if it will be better still, but I don't think double legendary is that beneficial that it'll make or break covenant choice between necro and kyrian for cleaves

I don't personally like playing kyrian, necro is much more fun

[formal creek]

agreed

[sharp meteor]

been playing kyrian more recently and am starting to enjoy it

my healer also no longer trolls me with vortex so that's nice

[elder wigeon]

kyrian is great for comps that enjoy spear peels and setups

[sharp meteor]

fire/boomie, aff/boomie, dh/boomie, ww/boomie

make it stop

[wheat jay]

You forgot warrior boomie

[sharp meteor]

my poor healer got spear beamed

[elder wigeon]

imagine playing kyrian with a boomkin

you know you can trinket the silence from the beam right?

[sharp meteor]

just hadn't seen that before

also saw an nf aff plus boomie

[elder wigeon]

lots of new shit in the meta atm

[sharp meteor]

and he was casting

rather fastly

[elder wigeon]

yup

necro aff + kyrian boomie does scary damage too

and is tanky as fuck

[sharp meteor]

yep

had the most troll match vs fire/boom the other day

my enh had like 2% health and was running around the pillar

i speared the boom/mage and solo'd the mage from 100%

while the priest was trying to get in line to death my sham

[elder wigeon]

kekw

[sharp meteor]

have had a few games where i just managed to solo somebody in africa

teammate is like wait did it dc why'd he leave

[elder wigeon]

lmao

even at 3k people make severe positioning mistakes when cornered badly

[sharp meteor]

yep

[elder wigeon]

panic sets in and behave like a loose cannon

[sharp meteor]

my healer was talking about making aggro plays and im like nah usually those throw the game then he was saying he saw cdew make aclutch bash clone

hour later queue into cdew who throws the game with a very forced bash clone

[elder wigeon]

lmao

you can't force things, it always ends badly

[sharp meteor]

yeah efficiency is king

[elder wigeon]

being patient is the long lost skill in shadowlands

everyone is rushing to end the game as quickly as possible, even my teammates, just relax don't overreact and don't force anything

[sharp meteor]

queued into rsham thunder and rsham playing vood mastery

and they both had the hex conduit that reduces ur dam when hexed

er after it breaks

[elder wigeon]

yeah, annoying

same shit qing into nessper and this mw, outlaw rogue mw at like 2700 in 2's, most annoying possible matchup for me because they're playing double disarm, outlaw rogue is practically unkillable and mw is extremely hard to catch

[sharp meteor]

yep kind of thankful my healer who likes 2s took a break so i don't have to try to explain that i just don't wanna queue into rm, outlaw/x and surv/x

[elder wigeon]

lmao

it's really unfun

i wish monk disarm was reworked to 10/15 yards, 30y is oppressive

especially when things like storm bolt is 20y

in all honesty I just wish colossus smash was reworked to be 20% for 8 seconds on a 30 sec cd

and generated 20 rage

[sharp meteor]

having every game revolve about warbreaker is kind of funny and stressful

also healer didn't notice her gear was broken until part of the way into a game last night

she's like why is the warrior going me

had 40k hp

eventually got out of combat got on yak and repaired

[elder wigeon]

i just send my warbreaker to fish for cc/disarms before actual kill attempts

or i hold on to it

if I get put on DR or disarmed then, then my warbreaker will be very potent after they used a bunch of cd's

[sharp meteor]

yeah started doing that a while ago and it feels decent

also wheneverthey send disarm on me early my sham just claps them with winds or ascend

queued into the first unh dk in a few weeks and he just got split in half

[mild pier]

Poly should have a fucking cooldown change my mind

[sharp meteor]

warr charged me and my sham just made gurgling noises and asended killing the dk through 100% health ibf in like 3 seconds

i would be content if rm just had less instantly explosive damage

trinket fear/stun bust but still take like 15-30k damage in that fraction of a s econd ahhh

[elder wigeon]

I mean to be fair, a lot of pvp needs to be reworked to remove the "this is bullshit" feeling

IE, purge needs to have a stacking debuff that increases cost by 50% per stack with a 6 second timer

[sharp meteor]

i mean if u can kill somebody in under a few seconds there's always gonna be a lot of people upset

oh OH i tested it the other day on my little spriest

[elder wigeon]

purgable buffs need nerfed to compensate, or need nerfed and become unpurgable etc

[sharp meteor]

51 dispels before i was tapped

back to back 51 dispels nonstop until i ran oom

[elder wigeon]

exactly

[sharp meteor]

[elder wigeon]

that's extremely unfun and unfair

[sharp meteor]

like mind blast and mind flay could be unbound

and it'd be fine

[elder wigeon]

same with spammable CC when you have 1 dispel on a 8 second CD

[sharp meteor]

because dam is all vt and u can get it out with damn/unfurl

then just spam purges

spriest doing 4-5k dps without casting and purging 20-30 times a minute

[elder wigeon]

I think dispel should be nerfed to dispel 2 magic and 2 of class type debuffs and have a 4 second CD

IE disease, curse

the design has itself stuck in "this absolutely counters this" and "we need to buff this to compensate"

IE healer dispel completely counters warlock damage, or SP damage etc

[sharp meteor]

cycling kicks and interrupts on ua actually destroys poor affs so much

rdruid turbo just like

help they do nothing

no ua no agony ahhh

[elder wigeon]

Aff is designed like shit and I can't help but feel bad for aff players being frustrated, same with destro

[sharp meteor]

have seen so few destros

[elder wigeon]

nobody can help the gimmick that their class is pigeonholed into at the current moment and it creates a ton of toxicity

[sharp meteor]

yeah

[elder wigeon]

there's a completely legitimate bitch everyone can have with every single class right now

even though I can execute someone from 80% health and almost 1 shot them with it doesn't make me feel any better about my class being shut down completely on goes with disarm and roots, and how sometimes I can execute a healer 6x in a row and not kill them at 20% health tickling them with 5k's

[sharp meteor]

yeah the amount of modifiers that can be stacked lead to issues

4k sudden death proc

or 34k dsudden death proc

[elder wigeon]

yeah it's so crazy the variance in damage can easily be 10x between 0 modifiers and having like 10 stacked

[sharp meteor]

queue into kitty, blink and the warrior turns and dings my partner for 34k

[elder wigeon]

yeah I've been on both sides of it

hit foxyllama's priest for a 40k execute

[sharp meteor]

yeah queued into jah i think it was and domed him with two sd crits during all cds

got snapped in half on the rematch

[nimble jasper]

ngl i think sub is one of the worst redesigns

[sharp meteor]

it feels too different

[nimble jasper]

they keep trying to make dance less and less of a cd

[gloomy dock]

Survival exists

[sharp meteor]

i like sustained damage

[nimble jasper]

every expac

[sharp meteor]

not this run thing

surv feels great

[nimble jasper]

which makes it a balancing clownfiesta

[sharp meteor]

like old surv was just bm with es and lnl instead of kc or w/e

[nimble jasper]

like even in legion you only danced once every 30 secs in raid

now you can unironically fire off dance 3-4 times in a row

like wtf

[sharp meteor]

yep

[nimble jasper]

which obv makes pvp balancing uhh

yeah

cheapshot not as dumb when dance is a min cd

[sharp meteor]

also can't even space vs rm any more

because priest just chastises

[nimble jasper]

you can do it vs bad rm

[sharp meteor]

db sheep somebody, chastise healer, cheap other thing at same time oa=ifdjoaskdasdsa

[nimble jasper]

but not good ones

[sharp meteor]

asfkjnsaldf

[nimble jasper]

xd

anytime i q low mmr

[sharp meteor]

usually win vs rm with rdruid now

[nimble jasper]

and run into rmp

so many cc gaps

[sharp meteor]

not sure how to deal with retwarr

or melee cleaves with nf disc

[nimble jasper]

that im confused by

gonna be extra spicy next season

MA+resounding

[sharp meteor]

god i love when they space out and gap cc

and still nearly gib u

rogue just hits 3 back to back 15k eviscs like alkdhnsjsl

[nimble jasper]

you can prob solo most classes with ma and kyrian besides wars in d

maybe

[sharp meteor]

yeah actually

[nimble jasper]

fucking jungle tho

both craven and pouch

[elder wigeon]

yeah that's gonna be rough

there's gonna be a lot of abuse from double legendary

[nimble jasper]

rps is more fun but rmp can just

kill anyone that trinkets

tho rps is kind of fun punishing bad positioning rdruids

[raw summit]

mage still burns during combust

cant cc

get fucked

[nimble jasper]

can stun him if no trinket

unless he blocks aggro for kill

[elder wigeon]

yeah that's going to be interesting, can't fear fire mage on bust, it'll break from the damage after 2 ticks

may have to run cacophonous roar

[sharp meteor]

ye actually tho

i do remember trying it and fearing some rogue at like half health

and knocking him down to 30%