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I’ve always been confused by matches against them. I eventually die without knowing why
no it hits u back and refunds evasion
hunter leaving pets on outlaw rogue effectively removes its cds
so outlaw eating all the hunters up super hard
Damn
about to try double necro arms shaman with double unhinged for maximum meme
now try dh with that
why cant the deathbolt change just go live now
reflecting deathbolt is super satisfying
yall say that but prob have 0% winrate into dbl wlock lmaooo
i actually have good winrate against locks 😄
warrior gets dispel, i get craven
free real estate
Its almost 12, where are my news?

For new warriors you recommend kyrian or necro ?
Low ratings they're pretty comparable. But if you plan to push high, you'll wanna get used to Necro early.
That being said, until you learn to chase and not be kited as easily, Kyrian is a nice tool to have, but getting used to can be harmful at higher ratings since it's beatable.
Especially since I am fresh and I don’t have legendary, spear doesn’t give me much time. I think I ll go necro . Tyvm
how many kicks do fucking DHs have
they aren't as tilting on warrior, but I got frost locked 3 times in under a minute as a frost mage
Pretty sure just 1
with like a 3 sec cooldown?
plus their dipshit stuns that I can't berserker rage on mage
3 times under a minute sounds pretty average
melee kicks are 15s 
how do people even play casters smh
Mage used to be pretty fun but I haven’t played it much since mop
it is fun im just doing it the hard way with frost instead of memeing
but I suck at it
Just play 3s with another caster and it becomes easy
either way bait kick with poly and then freecast frostbolt
Because then you just frostbolt them down
how big are conduit upgrades for arms? I know some classes scale WAY better with conduits than others but
have limited time this week and wondering which toon to focus upgrades on between priest and warr
So if I want the necro legendary I have to wait for skoldus hall to open up, so wait weeks .. that is messed up =/
I’m a master baiter
Do twisting corridor or w.e until first boss until it drops @quiet pendant
So twisting corridor first boss drops it ? Like layer 1 or 2 or something @fierce elm
I think its first boss
Think it’s layer 3 but I’m not positive
Hmm ok I ll try twisting corridor now hopefully it drops . Tyvm
Cause it says enduring blow drops from layer 3 skoldus hall
Yes
but Twisting corridor bosses are randomized from a pool
And those are included in that
so you just do twisting corridor until you get that boss
kill boss, loot memory
Layer 3 twisting corridor. Enter and leave until you get Skoldus floor
Once you get skoldus
Clear to first boss
Bam leggo
Bev lies he doesnt even play the game 
Man thank you . So confusing . Thank you for clarification
Hello, i will start Pvp Arena in TBC Phase 3, can you tell me if this stuff is the best possible pls ?
Plan, track and share gear sets for your Burning Crusade Classic characters.
Especially on the enchant of leg (50 ap + 12 cs or 400hp + 12 age)
You’ll get more info from fightclub or throgans disc
if your going from critt versa full gear kyrian into necro is it worth rerolling al your gear to haste versa?
uh i queued into a necro kitty cleave dwarf at like 2700-2800 that played with 0 haste
30% crit + pi + kyrian empower + conq banner + avatar + warbreaker = bigly dam
i prefer just playing enduring full haste
Mostly asking for 2s
oh idk
Was that warrior necro?
ya
lol
i'm running 23% crit 6% haste on mine andi t feels good
i want our sham to play his disc instead so i can get PI 😦
oh i've played draka before
reminds me i need to setup nf on warr
bleh
after i finish that i might have to try pushing on a warr without a cov
ive tried it
double necrolord is better
we weere winning at 2400ish mmr
the speed from both banners stack
so you are legit running around at like 175% speed (if you have all the move speed gems and such)
LOL
BUt enduring blow on helmet or?
the reasoning for that was for the haste
due to no haste conq helm
but if u want crit then either slot is fine
as there is crit belt and helm
cov leggo is gonna be belt
so make helm
guess you might have new leggo by then tho lol
yeah but that's like months away
saw kyrian rdruid necro ww in 2s once
my bumhole every min
likely would have lost if monk wasnt bad and scuffed every bonedust go
just queued into retwarr with kyrian rdruid the other day, first time seeing one
crazy how many kyrian boomys there are now
lot of kyrian boomies with necro dhs or wws and kyrian ferals with necro warrs
I prefer haste as both kyrian and necro, but that's just me
even when playing ret war and kitty cleave
banking off of a cheese 1 shot execute crit is dumb and bad
only time I genuinely prefer crit over haste is vs resto druids in 2's and against frost mages
crit felt better vs anything with low uptime yer
hasteisbis
I’ve played both and haste feels the best to me
Granted I’m not a rank 1 player, but crit feels really bad unless you get a huge execute crit
pretty much
Played Kyrian haste up to duelist and it felt so much better than crit. When I wasn’t necro I just wasn’t getting the burst I needed to land a kill except with lucky RNG. With haste I had so much more pressure it didn’t even matter
Also re: lumberjack, tried it with an undergeared shaman both as double arms and arms fury, all necro, and it was doing disgusting things to most opponents
I think we only had trouble against dh Druid
DH really is in a disgusting spot damage wise
And on top of outdamaging us they have more stuns and it feels like more oh shit buttons?
Referring to necro ofc
Lol
As Necro Warrior, do I put Banner + Orc Racial Ability + Avatar in one macro?
but should I always have avatar up with it?
I mean, is it worth using avatar outside of it?
depends
I only times I dont pop avatar with necro banner is when I hold avatar to break an incoming root that I know is coming
ie from a mage etc
But im also bad
so idk
oh jeez i forgot all about that, i been playing as a gnome warrior for so long that I forgot I could do that on my horde warrior xD
Would anyone be down to maybe do a lvl 30-39 pvp brawl
like we all go to the gurubashi arena and mess around
Is kyrian better for turbo?
potentially? i think it depends on what you're queuing into
destroying rm as necro rdruid terb but can't deal with a lot of double melee
Can anyone clarify, as a necro warrior, I craft Enduring Blow on Head? ANd then do I go Versa Haste or Versa Crit? I saw many different cases with warriors
I think that the conservative pick is enduring blows on helm with haste/vers yes
if you want to go crit then you can craft it on either slot as the alternative also has crit
and in general? I mean stats-wise? I saw few necros with haste as "Main"-Secondary stats and a few with crit
checked the pinged guides, but they didnt help
i've got one at like 16 haste, 13or 15 crit (can't remember
and it feels better than my 23 crit 6 haste
i mean both work in different ways and each gain value in different matchups/comps
it feels bad to hit twice in a banner window with low haste
man I gotta say I know everyone says MW isn't as good as the other healers but every time I run with a MW at a decent rating the games are so much more paced and they're so much more effective than the fotm healer
I dont know if it's because the people who play it have a higher skill bar or something, or if they usually know their class better because they're sticking with it in a rough meta, but I love playing with a good MW probably more than any other class besides priest
even the lower geared ones I find outperform shamans and druids
lol I want the prot warrior 9.2 set bonus on arms
with the 4-piece rework and anger management you have 50% avatar uptime
arena viable!
and near 100% uptime on banner with Glory and Reprisal
Warriors dont have pet
If i Get t6 korthia on my warr, can i Get sockets and conduits for my alt without farming rep again?
ya but u will be r6 on them long before finishing sockets and stuff
u get more relic drops at higher ranks
and each turnin = bigly rep
just buy the 50% increased rep gain thing on main and mail it over
Ok, you See im t5 on my warr and t4 on my ww monk xd
for pvp is necrolord the play now or is kyrian still the best play for arms
comp dependent
they both good
depends on comp as resune says
matchup as well although don't have as much control over that
Question guys does anyone else often doesnt use avatar and necro banner + CS together ?
I like avatar to make the other guy disarm me
That's a viable way to go about it
What's the Kyrian comp and whats the Necro comp then if possible to mention?
Cuz I decided to push and work on glad, everyone talking about warriors are insane now, and I was waiting for this moments for so long
I saw Bajheera was doing so much arenas and BGs as necro critting with 31k execute as necro war, so I was thinking to switch necro if its so good, but if kyran is avg the same, then I will just stick on it and just find a correct comp for it
Kyr is overall better
If you have set 3s with ret then necro is good, if ur playing with randoms then play kyrian 🙂 also when you’re max renown you can switch freely, try both
Yo is arms/ww a decent 2s comp right now? My buddy and I pushed a little bit past rival last night but is it worth trying to get to duelist?
uh can maybe work if you're both on point but i think ww is kind of lacking in the ability to heal others
are there "elite Weapon" Tmog rewards that go with the armour set?
yes at duelist/2100
keep in mind that you do need to upgrade the weapons themselves for each appearance
ahhh okay, nothing at 1950?
oh so get to 2.1k and then you upgrade the item and it changes appearance?
I cant seem to find this anywhere online?
LOL yeah they didn't mention it
they also didn't explain how s1 appearances worked
which was that u got the pve/nathria appearances as u upgraded the weps
but yeah just buy a wep then upgrade to duelist for appearance. or get it out of a duelist+ vault. I'm like 7k honor away from the last one, which is the gun.
Common kyrian comp would be wps, wmp, wls, kfc. Common necrolord comp would be ret war, kitty cleave, tsg,
Kyrian would be the better “all around” covenant
venth feels kind of meme right now
venth is meme status
condemn is really undertuned and every venth warrior I've faced just doesn't hold a candle to my damage
last one I've played against was around 2700 and that was supatease on his warrior
yes i have seen like 2 venth warrs and their dmg felt unremarkable
maybe its okay in 2s for super high mobility memes or osmething but idk
or maybe there's some undiscovered venth setup
i will have one of my warrs all set to play it next season though with enduring or battlelord as i think that has potential with sinful surge and the tier bonuses
Im at 2360 in 2s never reached glad be4 how do I win my last 4 games
If anyone got a clue pls lmk I need my glad
those 40 rating dont change players you face so do what you did to get there
i believe in ya

But being so close makes me bad cos if I dont get it I die
2s isn't glad
Stop being rating obsessed and realize it doesnt matter
I know 
wish 2s had an armored ground mount or something
nah 2's is disgusting
Dont trash the only q where I am higher than 1400 
I've played it more than enough to know it's trash
yeah i drag my feet and try to do other things
Anyone have a suggested link/video for useful addons for arena?
Is it just me or are we warriors mentally disabled against RM?
peel their go then beat their shit in while on dr
coordinate to not overlap with team
not really
it’s not unwinnable, just aggravating
Hello, why do I encounter weapon warriors with different stats? Like + Crit, + Haste (ex: 22%crit 10 haste or 8%crit 20 haste) etc ?
what is the best?
whats is the best for necro with head legendary? (25% mortal strike)?
I've just been playing full haste
queued into another necro playing full crit though, just a different comp
then some people play a mixture
doesn’t matter
The solution to RM that works for me is peel first go, channel necro shield as sheep lands, then kill the mage
Mages seem to suffer embolisms whenever you go after them instead of the rogue
They panic and burn all their mobility
my rdruid just gets stealths the whole game and incaps their goes, have had a super good time vs rm recently
just don't know how to deal with retwarr nf priest lmao
retwarr in general kind of a rough time
Melee on melee comps must give most healers heart attacks
It’s always utter chaos and disgusting amounts of damage
rmp feels more relaxing and predictable to me
although not quite high enough to queue into the good ones
do we automatically unlock the enchant when we get duelist or do we have to go buy it somewhere?
cloak is 2100 i think tabard is 2400
but im not seeing the enchant to xmog
that did it, thanks
I don't like killing mages man they're unkillable gods and giving rogues restealths is bad
we've been going rogue to the extent that the last time we queued into the same team the rogue wouldn't open for the first minute which was weird
Yo real talk
How do u ever hit a hunter
Between fein death, scatter, trap, knock back, slow
Stun
Honestly the thing that helped me most with them is using the leaper leggo
Near constant uptime when I’m not stunned
Lol
i just stun freedom and try to avoid wasting mobility
most bms are apes
that eventually find a way to int
usually for a trap
something funny I said?
Yeah leaper leggo is funny
what's funny about it? addresses any mobility issue with hunters and rdruids
honestly seems like it has potential
a slip up and you're waddling
not sure who is really favored in that matchup
it sucks alot of hunters got a brain somewhat and q with rdruids now
priest was free pts
yeah misshapen ruins their day
or they send intim when you're topped and covered in hots
umm some specs can knock it
but otherwise it's just stationary turtle
during which their hots usually fall off
stun freedom or to connect, hamstring towards the end of the stun in case he trinkets, if he trinkets then he trinkets your slow too, if he feigns, immediately reapply hamstring, if he disengages, howl it, save charge for when you need to reconnect after CC
spear only after feign if you are playing it
Guy if you play against feral + bm/sv what target you go on ? I always say let's go feral if he's nf
But hunter kinda sucks too
Playing necro war + ret
picture this
DH blade dance MS + a fury warrior playing unhinged
That’s a 135% healing reduction!! Hidden op comp?
110% ms necrofury leaper meme
in 3s 😄
Wait why do you need unhinged?
fury can mortal strike in bladestorm with unhinged
it can also proc mortal combo
Christ
yooooooo 200% mortal 
What u guys think ist best comp for warri in this boomie/dh meta at 2.4k+?
Why can’t I see what spec people are in the arena LFG anymore? use to be able to tell if they were a dps or healer
That’s dumb lol
wow nice charge !
Christ
I'm grinding archivist right now so I can try and get that 252 necro conduit
Big damage off that shit
is mikanokos the best soulbind for arms?
all three seem to have their place
Priest is main kill target, set up a kick order to not overlap, use hoj only on priest, swap to hunter with a storm bolts and go back once the hunter starts getting away or commits cds
What do u run with
Fury ms is overwritten by actual ms
It’s a meme @hard nacelle I was playin
u got me, love u homie
u mean pvp talents?
btw I acc reached the 2.4 in 2v2 never been happier
time to quit wow now 😄
guys a question, someone the title Warbringer? Do you know if it's for all the pjs or just for the one who got it? It's for winning 300 rbgs.
@fierce elm when do i play necro and kyrian in pvp
stop
pardon
answer the man
busy watching Nfl
I ask if someone here has obtained the title for winning 300 rbgs
i can't actually stand the presence of rbg players enough to suffer through that many games
Me neither, but I'm a fan of hard achievements and I'm working on that, I wanted to know if it's for all my characters or just for the one who got it
Yep, the progress Is for character, well, I need 160 More xD
Ye it’s account wide
Same as the kill 300000 enemy faction players one
God damn I had nothing to do back in lich king it seems
any recommandation for good warriors that stream rn?
ty
As ret warr sham. How do you consistently beat rm? Mainly disc and holy healers.
hope that they're bad and play tank leggo i think?
it's really hard to beat RMP as ret war
but hoj healer (main kill target) swap with bolt on the rogue and pressure the rogue a lot, don't let them get free restealths but don't chase too far
That’s the strategy I was thinking. We have gotten tk where we can live against most of them a decent amount of time
Should the warrior also play tank leggendary? I told my ret friend he should use the tank chest and the "Bird-Man" as Soulbind (Kyrian) against RMP
idk thats why I was wondering 😄
No you play mirror into rogue mage and use reflect to keep sheeps off your ret on your stun goes
how does one beat an actual good sub rogue/holy priest 2s? feels like unless you gib them with big crits/procs you just lose by like the 3rd go because hpriest chastise healer games you with sub 100-0 you in a kidney even through D
MAGES ARE CRINGE
double pyroclasm, double blink stun, double necro mage
oh yeah queued into that
it wasn't them tho
queued into a nb fire mage running blink necro fire and didnt poly once, was with aff
i hate mage lock with a passion
getting prepared to queue into double demo next season 
hey look he has decimating charges that don't expire
whoops left the pillar for a second and they both hit me for 25-40k
nah RMP will completely dominate
rogues benefit from double legendary to the maximum
echoing reprimand with master assassin will be unbeatable, especially with fire mage tier set
mage double lego isn't that sick
yeah getting flashbacks to s1
where u get cheap shot and stabbed for half your health twice the next 2 gcds

quiote literally dont have enough buttons to keep on hunters
they just freeze me
scatter me
iknock me back etc
good surv/rdruid feels impossible
every other variant feels fine or at least okay
good bm/rdruid hard without your own rdruid i think
oh yeah
fought this one 2700 rdruid/bm hunter
rdruid spamming root andclone on me the entire time
literally no matter what
just made bm untouchable
then i look up the rdruid and hes like 2k in 3s
kekw
yeah rdruid the eternal king of 2v2
seven seconds of pain
Bro like I don’t even know what the fuck the lore is, like I haven’t kept up on that shit since TBC who the fuck is wrathion
I’m just trying to kill some fool like we in call of duty
deadass
active warr streamers atm?
magnusz, smexxin
revo would stream more but has net problems
rio also streams, he's pretty good, laros streams as well also good warrior
Mud also
Mud =1 month since last stream
@elfin surge start streaming dumbass O_O
🤪
Best Arms warrior legendary for PvP Enduring Blow or?

I use that one. For higher end arena it’s best for Constant pressure while training someone. I switch with unhinged every so often for a bigger burst window. Mainly vs a double dps comp
Cool thanks mate
This might sound dumb but is there an optimal time of the day or week to push rating? I feel like I always climb so easily on like a Friday night but during the week it feels much harder.
People who have the time to play during traditional "work" times always feel worse to face
So i usually queued in the evenings but i doubt it's a huge factor
once u get into that glad-r1 void and there's like 1-3 other teams at your mmr queuing it can be either super great or really awful depending on the comp
other than that idk
i am 1650 on warrior but it feels unwinnable playing against all the streamers boosting. What covenant should i go? is night fae fury any better? I am kyrian arms right now @fierce elm
i am 1200 hardcapped on warrior but it feels unwinnable playing against all the streamers boosting. What covenant should i go? is night fae fury any better? I am kyrian arms right now @fierce elm
i am 1300 stuck in 2v2 as warrior but it feels unwinnable playing against all the streamers boosting. What covenant should i go ? is venthyr better than night fae ? i am currently venthyr
Do you have gear?
I have 206 ilvl and I play with proc strength trinket and bloodscale for more survivability
My legendary is when i press 2 overpowers it buffs my next MS
philly phily phil phil
Just Get more gear and dont worry about rating
Is there any more mogs unlock after 2100? What does it look like
Can I post screenshots in here or nah?
Because I just had a game vs an ele/fury warrior and the ele healed so fucking much
Like I can't even believe it. I literally couldn't bring him down for shit
Lemme see
We were on a losing streak from 1945 so maybe I was just playing like ass because I was pissed but I could not kill that dude. Just out healed everything I threw at them
loss streak down from 30 rating higher lol
I've been honor capped for like a week lol. I was to spend this shit
hunters are literally infuriating
cant do ANYTHING to them
i even reflected his trap to him
like
fucking joke of a class
they just stand max range
and u cant do shit
root root root
fucking joke of a class
fucking brainless
cringe.
oh i pop all my cd's? Lol never gonna hit them anyways
meanwhile they 2 shot me thrug all my defensives
I feel that
press button, kill, go next 
i am 1400 stuck in 2v2 as warrior but it feels unwinnable playing against all the streamers boosting. What covenant should i go ? is venthyr better than night fae ? i am currently nf :3
Dont do him like that 
i am 800 stuck in 2v2 as warrior but it feels unwinnable playing against all the streamers boosting. What covenant should i go ? is venthyr better than night fae ? i am currently nf prot :3
2's is really bad
only 2 of the tier sets appears to have vers? that means we would be using 2 other pieces without vers. Combined with the changes to trinket bonus, ppl won't have that much higher vers than this season i suppose?
yep
is it just me or is the entire ladder filled with duelist/glads alts?
Everyone I face in 1900 runs out on a fucking glad mount
what about tier sets?
Didnt rly check since i probably wont use mine
? what? not using tier sets? fr?
Survival set sucks
this is the warrior channel...
ele was probably running the earth shield leggo - their offheals can be insane in 2s that way. Fought double ele both running that before and it legit took like 6min to kill one of them
Apparently it was chain heal that did most of the healing
rofl what
But it was instant cast? Only thing I saw him try to cast was surge
lmao?
you play too many 2s lol thats a good way to hate the game fast
Idk boys I was confused as hell
Apparently there is a lego that makes chain heal 50% stronger and cost zero mana
i see
20% 5 stack
so 100%
does ele have something to make chain heal insta
i dont think ive ever seen chain heal casted outside of rbg
yeah id need to see a recording cause it's too hard to tell what leggo he was wearing. If he was wearing the insta chain heal one then his chain heal wouldnt really be healin that much
Man idk
Like it was 400K+ chain heal
And then earth shield was less than 1/4 of that
Hopefully lmao
you should be able to rail the fury so hard the sham will have to spam heal
I tried swapping
Idk I was pissed at that point
Was playing for a while just ended up taking a break
Ugh
literally makes you want to punch out your monitor
Dude whenever I see a fury that's like rival 2 I know I'm fucked
Because it's probably a fucking glad alt
lol i always assume its osmeone trying to meme
lmao no
but usually fury is free wins in 2s
youll get it just keep queueing
Yeahhh I'm trying lol. Getting better for sure
alsio super fun to fight a dh and rogue
and just pop all cd's, and literally they just darkness and pop defensives
to outlast
@spice hornet not good enough for 3s... im overwhelmed by 2s let alone adding another player into the mix
Hey all, considering boosting a warrior to alt as to play with lower cr friends, should I go necro or Kyrian? I know necro is the choice for ret war, curious if that hurts me when I branch out?
If you’re gonna play with low CR friends both are good it shouldn’t matter, NL is more fun and the damage can be a bit higher if you get good CS procs from enduring blow.
Kyrian is looking better on paper for the patch since the kyrian leggo is really good and the necrolord one is kinda worthless. So kyrian gets ER and 8 sec spear which is nutty.
Spear can just be unfun to use sometimes cause lots of classes have an easy way out and sometimes that shit just bugs out and doesn’t work.
EB*
kyrian goes elysian might
Yes but for next patch with two leggo
Also if you play with rdruid be careful cause vortex can DR spear
venthyr > kyrian > necro > nf in terms of gains of strength from double legendary
I wonder if venthyr will be any good
nf in shambles for the third season in a row
It feels so bad
venth looks like it has a lot of potential with ss and enduring
Kekw yup
At least our covenant leggos are not that bad
Like shaman hs some of the most underwhelming ones
Awesome thanks for the feedback! Kinda leaning towards Kyrian atm, will boost it tomorrow and decide
Hit 1800 for the first time and I've started running into some issues; mostly with monks. I reckon I could make better use of Defensive Stance and Rallying Cry but this LFG Druid I was with adamantly insists its because I don't have the HP trinket.
He was kind of an ass about it but I can't help but wonder if he has a point?
nah
not at that rating
you can run dps trinket all the way to 2400+
i just run death sentence, sharp, and warbringer into WW
and just gas pedal them
So how do you deal with their damage, because even with like 34% vers and dstance I just got blitzed by a WW/RSham inside a stun.
just need to coordinate you and your healers trinket
monk is only gonna go on leg sweep generally esp into warrior
and you can trinket parry the first one, or trinket fear, trinket bolt
then your healer can trinket the next one and use his utility
trinket parry? As in trinket and pop DBS?
yes
Druid said in each case he needed more time to save me, but honestly I wasn't having problems like this with any other healer against the same combo.
Well I mean they still hurt but I made it through ok.
He could've just been mismanaging his cds
I know in a couple of matches he run out of mana surprisingly fast.
Like in one he ran out before the disc priest and I was dealing more damage than the other arms warrior. 😐
generally monk has big go every minute
fish for crane kick proc, sweep, bone dust, keefers, off gcd clones into crane kick then rsk
Do you record your games? Super helpful to watch back especially in scenarios like this
more general tips are stuff like
getting close to stacking on your healer or being kited towards it? bladestorm if he has sweep up
save stun for fists of fury. you won't catch all of them and that's fine
save fear for when he pops clones if you feel like it. it's likely he'll trinket that and you can stun off if he does
I've been saving fear for the tiger usually, is that sensible?
Fair play. I'll keep that in mind. 🙂
against monks sending everything, i'll trinket fear and if they trinket the fear I'll parry if my healer is in CC, if the ww is horny he'll disarm my parry and then I'll just chop his head off with my warbreaker
against monks sending everything
I feel like this is what's been happening but I'm still pretty inexperienced and aren't taking in everything that's going on. I've only played like 200 games so far.
Lets say you survive that though and go on the offensive, what stops him kiting you?
the games I was playing, i was playing against DH WW rsham, and I just opted for warbringer + death sentence + sharpen
I would leap his port and reconnect, if he uses any mobility to get away I'd immediately charge it
The basics then, let them use their mobility first.
the monk is going to port your warbreaker if he just used his disarm offensively
can bladestorm through the ring he'll try to kite you with
charge execute also hits through it although the ring may bounce you back
I've killed a few monks this way when they try to kite my banner in the execute phase.
it's rare for you to die against that if your healer isn't cc'd for 20 years or if you're not stunned
can also bladestorm to try to catch their disarm on your warbreaker, or their sweep if they telegraph their go but those can be kind of cointosses
usually just play it conservatively and focus on peeling their bigly 1 minute goes
most wws aren't great if they can't brute force people down
I think I've just hit the bracket where they're finally coordinating their CDs well enough to do this and I just need to learn to compensate for it; the advice here has been helpful though.
Hello i'm having a tough time against DH playing with a Holy priest playing kyrian war. I'm finding it hard especially against rdruids where i can't stick to the healer and we get killed by cleave dmg
any thoughts genarally?
you may need your hpriest to play chastise stun and stun DH for you on swaps, use howl to help your healer create as much distance as to not get cleaved when going DH, save stormbolt and spear for swaps on healer as always
Low rated 2s, I ran into double fury warrior
They both tried to one shot my partner with the Necrolord banner + charge talent lol didn’t work
At 2.4 I played against a monk ret as arms with my healer being resto
Got completely clapped
Yeesh
hello, are raid set bonuses gonna work in pvp? someone tested that on ptr?
They were last time I saw
You can get the tier sets from pvp from what I understand
So it's fine I guess
Idk how that works though, like is there going to be a separate conquest version of the tier sets with pvp stats and scaling on it?
You’ll only get them from the vault initially as a PvP player
and it could have wrong stats iirc until they implement the crafting catch-up months into the patch
Christ
Yeah it’s giga scuffed
pls Microsoft help us
LOL
Enduring blow best Lego for necro?
I've been using it and it's working out
I always get shutdown during my cd's since it takes a couple globals to get it going avatar, banner, stormbolt, WB etc.... disarm, stun, cc etc. So the bladestorm leggo actually seems like it could be really good for getting off some big burst and knowing for sure it wont get negated atleast in a stun or something
You just over power through, stun him and hit through, or swap to another target
i was fighting a 30hp rogue
one hit took em to half health
then i sat there for 5 seconds not landing a single hit
when hit popped evasion
I usually open with warbreaker then SB, banner, avatar, bs and I’m usually fine. Depends on the situation though
Gotta swap to the other target in that situation bud. Don’t just sit there letting your damage go to waste
worth every minute
Damnnnn grats bro
gz dude
how do i get to skoldus hall this week? trying to get that lego
roll endless until u get it
just spam enter and leave twisting corridors lay 3
until you get skoldus
then go clear 6 floors and free leggo
lit
do u guys think kyrian warrior fiths spriest rshaman better then necro?
defensive spear vs melee cleaves quite good
kyrian feels better for spriest partner
spear keep him in place and lets psyfiend all over them
It is better
and void volley too
necro best for ret and feral partners?
Yes
queing sp/warr/rdruid rn and yeah spear is gen better and u can even add it to a go and destroy people im queing nerco rn tho it feels strong too
i hate playing around spear these days
unless it's a comp that has no outs, i just play enduring and use spear to bait defensives
Leoww still out here doing carries
literally
making more than most people in his country
where ris he even from?
i can't remember but everybody is fucking broke
so rmt in vidya on this scale is like 99th percentile for income or something
do you have the runecarver unlocked
just figured that out xd
ye its dumb
i have to do the bain questline again xd?
you can skip it
how
you need to do the first couple of quests in your covenant
like unlock your soulbind or w/e
ah i see
then you get a quest to report to bolvar in oribos
and thats when you talk to him and you can skip to korthia pretty much
bolvar skips runecarver
and then you tlak to the kyrian dude to skip to korthia right next to him
Just getting into necro arms, can anyone help with burst rotation?
ability usage usually kind of depends on enemy team
as you're trying to avoid getting peeled on it
I pugged my GM game
have been trying to get this hall to proc from twisted for like 30 mins lmao
gz raime
ty
So fucking fun
If I had the 252 necro conduit I swear I'd never lose a game
Be hitting 50k executes
korthia cage 
gotta do rifts and ur done
which one?
Unreal
That's for sure worth it
I only press slam if i have literally nothing else to press right?
When are you guys playing rend as necro?
usually it's just vs plate/healer dampeners in 2s
and slam useful for excess rage when bursting
outside of burst windows usually bait
okay cool thanks!
ots unreal to me hjow manyunique boomy/dh teams there are outta nowhere lol
it's the 2nd best comp in the game
RMP > DH boomie > Jungle > ret war
based on the rating I see some people having that're not as good as their rating would suggest I actually think it may be the absolute best comp in the game
But what about arms arms arms
Are you guys waiting for a root to come out before popping avatar?
people obviously wait to use roots until I pop CDs so I don’t see a ton of reason to hold it if they’re just waiting for the avatar anyway
situational, it's a bit optimistic to hold on to avatar for a root in every situation
depends on a lot of things
generally if a root is on the table it'll be coming out shortly after their air horns for banner/warbreaker go off
Thanks for the feedback, makes sense!
Assuming all 3 are up, is ability prio execute, mortal strike, overpower?
depends but
maintain mortal wounds
don't cap overpower charges
execute high priority but if you mash it and they don't die then you might be in a bit of a dry spot
For sure
Okay cool thanks
Sorry for basic questions literally boosted my warrior this morning lmao
Playing arms/holy priest at 2250-2300 and having a hard time against bm hunter/resto Druid. Feels like Druid is the kill target but bm pumps so much damage and both seem to be able to get distance before landing a kill
Any tips?
kill the real hunter pet when you can't touch either, hit hunter when you don't have spear and go druid with stun and spear, banner traps when you don't have parry
you can try going chastise stun to help connect with hunter and use stormbolt for healer with swaps
Should I be playing with an hpal or disc priest? I'm kyrian now and plan on changing to necro here in a week or two.
resto druid > resto sham >>> everything else
Priest war feels so bad once you get higher mmr lol
It’s actually feels dogshit
Even at low mmr so
I’m only 2k and it feels so terrible playing with a priest
Thr tranquility shit on druid made it feel so much worse
Cause they can tranq one spear go for free
when a DH is channeling fleshcraft with blur up and you pummel and hes still able dodge despite channeling something 

we love demon hunter
Against WW do you use fear for Pets?
Or if I’m playing with rsham should we earthgrab pets and use fear on heals?
you trinket fear monk and his pets on his bonedust
I wait until bonedust lands to trinket fear, safer to fear pet as main target than the monk because the target you fear has a significantly lower damage threshold to break
youre not supposed to hit him tho 
hey guys queing SP/warr/rdruid how should we do our goes again, im kyrian atm i think thats better right? if so how do we do our goes and is it every min? with spear
Depends on comp, for cleaves spear is for peel
oh so u saying if we fight cleave teams i should just be saving spear for peels if they stacked instead of setup?
Helpful for sure
ahh i see
thats fair yeah, yeah just started queing it been ok so far just swapped kyrian im high renown as both so its not too bad just miss the dam as nerco but i like spear for peels using it on setups feels ok just feels better to use it in 2+ targets for peel
so tired of fighting kyrian boomy
It’s going to be so good in 9.2 with double Lego I can’t wait
guys how to disable loading screen tips ?
Lol I don't even get loading screens now wtf
xD
Hey y’all, is 20% crit or 20% haste better for a necro unhinged build? Running kitty cleave and trying to improve our burst.
crit def feels better for kitty cleave
esp if you run with a preist who gives PI
i usually run enduring unless it's a set up comp then mirror though. haven't made unhinged. Kind of want to try it for one shotting rshams lol
Yeah I just want to try out the big dam
aaa its so hard to heal other warriors when the enemy team is Warr/Spri
that comp eats warrior alive
I honestly don't know whether haste or crit is necessarily better for kitty cleave or not
I've played both versions of it as kyrian or necrolord myself and my feral
haste >>>>
Mastery >>>

when
Big reason why I swapped haste kek
I'm extremely unlucky with crits, only lucky with mortal combo procs
had a 19k normal MS other night too that was nice
quite literally have played 30% crit and I don't hit those big crits often at all
19k normal ms kek
that's into a shield brother
if ur with a disc just go crit and get PI for big go
i don't think stats really matter unless you're playing really high up lol
when you crit 35k mortals and have half the gcd as haste
🤨 (open source noobs)
Wait till next patch and have 35% crit ez
mmm big crit with kleia next patch
highest MS i've gotten was 38 something
Artji is a hunter main smh
Yes.
not a higher cr warrior dumbo
destroyed lmao
Ok so 300 below your max, and I played it with Rhely for like 3-4 sessions xD
so 300 isn't bad diff?
As nf too lmao
why you guys arguing about rating
Seeing how undergeared I was and playing nf
lol
Because Scoobz and Artji constantly measure size
backtracking ur argument huh
Yes
lol
And my size is so big I need help to hold it
Thus I have a pet
They have easier time than Tek carrying you 
lol
artji thinks burritos are called "tortilla"
his opinion could not matter less to me lol
just think the banter is funny
it's just dumb, the best warriors in the world don't even agree
It all started when scoob said "id be r1 if I was eu"
lots of haste warriors lots of crit warriors
smexxin is the perfect example of it doesn't matter if you're full crit or not
guy is 3350 as full haste kyrian lol
lol
it's all in your head
only time crit actually feels godly is against frost mages
or arcane mages
lol
we were doing kitty last night into fire mage/destro/rdruid
we open fire mage with full dam, he pops combust and just stands there, through ironbark and ufll druid hots we still proc caut and get him to block lol
What mmr lol
2300 somethin
And now i'm gonna say
every hit was critting, it was super funny
rdruids love dropping the ball
yeah they were dumbos
they most definitely do
i think we ended up killing druid tbh
I know xD
That one game you had @fierce elm
They arent the smartest players resune
They were fucking clueless
That sounds like something id do lol
why you swapping on block tho lmao
cause have like 3s left of huge dam
thats cringe
you 100-0ed the rdruid with 3 seconds of banner?
no
got tranq
then went back mage and killed druid on later go i think
pretty sure druid was what died
idk we played like 30 games can't remember lol
Sounds so weird lol
idk anything that doesn't have a trinket can die to kitty in a go
We had one game where we were blasting some dps
the rdruids I play against certainly don't just let themselves get swapped to
lol
Didnt even dmg him hard, his hp just started going down
So at like 50% we swap and finish him xD
https://youtu.be/ChbPbs10TFo little treat for you boys
yeah they're prob not 2300 either lol
The boomy abuse
i swear so many druids cruise by cause no one pressures them
No I play at 2800 atm
well there ya go
Lmao poor Palumor
rmp needs buffs, its not fair that u killed that rogue
it's not fair he trinketed 3 seconds left on disarm while not on stun dr
you'd think rmp would know about dr's

why did you not bolt mage on trinket though?
mages dont die
is it because you wanted to save for your go
even when they trinket air
it's about stopping them and I didn't care
my shaman grounded most of his bust and I stopped the rogue entirely, not going to die to bust
yeah i just usually try to get the fear, hopefully 2 people but doesn't always happen
that's why the rouge got horny and trinketed
and they always trinket so i usually bolt the trinket
maybe that's bad and it's better to save bolt for go
Depends
there's no real need to stun the mage off the trinket when I completely shut down the rogue and none of us had to trinket
I want our stuns for swap on healer after rogue
well he dropped to like 25% with rally so it was a bit sketchy
he was greeding
while rmp is very tilting to fight id rather fight a fair rmp over dh/boomy rn sick of my hp bar just melting off
we rallied and he bmed, he was fine
I wish we had CC 
you guys usually swap healer

