cancer to play into though
#pvp
elder wigeon
fickle forge
Fuck man they literally siphoned all the MMR out of that ele+boomy team
elder wigeon
L O L
good fucking kyrian boomie necro ele
20k zaps, not a fan
kyrian shamans deserve a fiery hell though
idk how that vesper totem hasn't been hotfixed
60K dmg in 1 global isn't even close to acceptable
full quiver
Lol first time I heard it I looked around me for a second trying to kill it. Couldn't find it. Then I got hit for 35k and died
elder wigeon
i have my nameplate colored specially for that occasion
fickle forge
Immediately started to track vesper after this game
Rdruid got hit for 40k Vesper
elder wigeon
yup pretty common
wicked magnet
i almost always land the first vesper lego explosion, unless you immediately cc me and get to it first im going to get the first explosion in
spice hornet
@fickle forge nah its not that easy really if theyre good lol
and they can move it around too
fickle forge
In this case though, I could have leapt up on the platform and gotten it
But I wanted SP, and frankly didn't expect Rdruid to insta drop when he pre-skinned it
sharp meteor
i had a vesper hit me for 40k through parry and dstance
b safe out there friends
if no necro shield + casts stormkeeper + skyfury early b scared
wicked magnet
can skip stormkeeper but ill usually use it unless they on me
wicked magnet
i drop the skyfury right before i move the vesper though
elder wigeon
I've played a fair bit of WLPala recently whats up
I think kyrian is best for it for the same reasons kyrian is the best for WPS
and yes
depends, deathbolt is troll into SP and MW, and is hard to get off vs shaman comps as well
he plays triple UA most of the time, and we don't really have a go, I kinda just PVE and he DS's whenever he feels like it
trying to help him get gladiator, we play at 2.5/2.6 somewhere around there
I don't care for it at least with the players I'm playing with
if I was playing with a top lock and a shaman I'd probably be having some decent fun with it
wet scarab
I think I'm ready to quit this game after the next rdruid hunter matchup
the most tilting fucking thing
elder wigeon
2's is bad for the soul
frosty flower
2's is bad for the soul
😢
warped warren
2's is bad for the soul
2s is the one and only bracket
thick reef
what u guys doing with honor now?
i am unlocking various wep mogs, like bow staff etc
spice hornet
why is the upgrade vendor the most buggy shit in the world
addons are constantly in conflcit with it
sharp meteor
idk it also has that annoying delay between upgrades
marble marten
https://app.squadov.gg/share/TinklyDapperTammi
funny how he says the game is dogshit, when that skyfury was up for ages, and so was that vesper totem :p
fierce elm
such is his healer
warped warren
tawny elm
alrighty, hopefully gonna start 2v2 with a frendo today. gotten GladiatorsSA, Gladius and Omnibar. anything else essential when it comes to addons?
grand light
Arena team tracker is handy
It’s not called that I don’t think but an add on showing your team mates cd is handy
tawny elm
omnicd should fill that need, right?
wicked magnet
i like nameplatecooldowns
deft spindle
Is kyrian with crit still good?
elder wigeon
yup
rough mountain
For 2s, is Kyrian supposed to be better than Necro?
steady mantle
why do arms warrior take the axe in pvp and not the sword?
steady mantle
For 2s, is Kyrian supposed to be better than Necro?
i heard kyr is slightly better for 2s and necro for 2s. but not a huge difference afaik
elder wigeon
I think the sword is better, crit is a better stat than mastery
but it's a lot of honor farming just for a marginal upgrade
fierce elm
^
pine canyon
can i heroic leap out of the kyrian spear?
full quiver
if you time it right lol
hard nacelle
Anyone know how to kill a good resto druid
deft spindle
Thx
thick reef
do u guys take sharpen blade vs RMP(disc)?
u dont kill rdruids that is good
u can barley hit them but when u do its nice for sure
but they just sit bear lol
hard nacelle
in 2s u don't
Yeah that's what I'm starting to get
I try to bait ward and thorns and pray a little
full quiver
killing htem as kyrian is a lot easier than necro
thick reef
its ok rdrudis legit own in 2s rn not too much u can do even as a warrior
yeah being kyrian helps a lot
if ur not tho its just hard like they can just tranq ur banner cds where as every min as kyrian u have a go on them 8 sec to kill lol
hard nacelle
yeah necro feels rough on them
Is it true that thorns has an effective range
I read that in here
thick reef
yeah something about that i heard
sharp meteor
I thought they fixed that
hard nacelle
I think they fixed a damage issue but not range
sharp meteor
Also it was meant to be a bugfix that u couldn't proc thorns from like 30 yards away
but purple hair interns
made it so u couldn't put thorns on teammates
hard nacelle
I'll have to test but might be able to get a priest to MC druid out
sharp meteor
because it wouldn't work if they were away from u or something
hard nacelle
I'm still tryna nail down the facts but this is the best I could find
I wanna know for sure before I just beat into a thorned melee
pop banner, kill myself
sharp meteor
least it has an icd unlike legion
my poor shaman blew himself in half using doomwinds into it
spice hornet
the icd is still pretty short as is tho
warped warren
its fixed
warm quiver
Had a ret tell me if I dbts then intervene him. He gets the dbts effect. Any truth to that ?
spice hornet
the melee attacks he receives will be redirected to you and you have parry up so
sharp meteor
no he still gets whacked
u just eat the hits but take less dam
also if they disarm ur intervene target it rips ur die by the sword off
:))
warm quiver
That’s how I thought it worked but he seemed so convinced. He must be cooked
sharp meteor
also apparently glimpse still removes disarm which is interesting
spice hornet
hes ret so prol;ly is cooked
sharp meteor
idk what he thinks it'd do tbh like intervene is just u eating the physical hits
rets are so cooked about not wanting to use wog that they just fkn die and ask why their warr didn't do anything
full quiver
also apparently glimpse still removes disarm which is interesting
did you have that happen? it should be hot fixed
sharp meteor
tested last night and u can backflip out of disarms so that's neat
couldn't get it work with spear though
full quiver
weird
i've never understood why it doesn't work on spear. Supposed to be immune to CC once you're in teh air
rough wharf
hit me with tips against dh for 3s specifically. playing ret war with a mw
steady mantle
any1 can tell me why more warrior uses the 2h axe with mastery on it instead of sword with crit?
spice hornet
cause the crit sword came out in 9.1.5 and not many people have it even know it exists
steady mantle
u sure? bc all the high rated ppl got axe 😮
spice hornet
im p sure you need duelist to buy it too
raw summit
You can buy it whenever
steady mantle
ah ok, bc i noticed the sword got more str and stamina than the axe, therefor the axe gives more secondary stats xD and sword got more max dmg on weapon hit
raw summit
Sword is probably better yea
raw summit
Truu
steady mantle
ye i even didnt transmog it
when i began to pvp i invested all of my conq points in crit gear, but now im playing necro.. should i get new items with haste then?
spice hornet
you can have a good mix of haste and crit
steady mantle
atm im at 19 crit 12 haste
and 35 versa
just began like 4 5 days ago with playing pvp and i noticed some stack this, some mix this, some stack others ^^
spice hornet
just dont specifically go mastery and you sohuld be fine lol
steady mantle
when 2s starting to get challenging btw? i just hit 1900 and i think its not too hard yet
spice hornet
i am 20.% crit 9.7% haste 38% ver
it gets annoying around 2100 mmr
you fight the fotm BM hunters, NL DHs, rogue mages, convoke ferals like crazy
anything past 2100 mmr is usually giga sweaty too because there's 0 reason to q 2s past 2100
steady mantle
ye i just noticed there are more roq mages out now and feral is showing up aswell
spice hornet
oh and a lot of ppl will be duelist geared at that rating already
since they are tanking out of 2100 or trying to get it back
steady mantle
ah i understand
spice hornet
i legitimately hate qing around 2k in 2s when helping my buds alts
warm quiver
I played against double feral the other day in 2s. So annoying to play around 2.1 mmr
spice hornet
yeah its not fun
steady mantle
on 3s i faced today 3 mm hunter XD
spice hornet
i love facingferal convoke/healer that are so god awful at getting convoke off but wasting 5+ mins of my time before I can actually kill them since they spend 90% of the match running
steady mantle
i start hating holy priest
since im like 4-5 days new to pvp i rly dont know what classes can do and i was wondering why this holy priest didnt want to die with like 5% hp and even resurrected xD
warm quiver
I’ll fully agree 2s is so sweaty. I hate playing em now.
spice hornet
its a legendary
youll also run into rogues running duel 100-0 duel builds
really fun
steady mantle
can u explain that?
spice hornet
rogue tries to get someone wiht non immunity class on your team to trinket using stuff like blind, a kidney with blades, a mage combust, etc.
then they just insta swap to you full kidney 100-0 you in shadowy duel with MA leggo
its trash
steady mantle
xd
sharp meteor
it is indeed stresfull to play into
queued into ww/sub and it's like hm they're gonna do the thing
ww forces cds with a sweep bone dust keefers on somebody
then rogue 2-hits them in a duel
😖
spice hornet
why not just not worry about rating on your main
like q
i just q between 1800-2500 constantly dont even care i just play
wet scarab
Blizzard has finally nerfed hunters https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/928442427117821982/2b075bbe6b167fc9e0b8c2d65dcbcf0c.png
spice hornet
They’ll just feign death it
wet scarab
Then they’d have to eat a spear or vice versa
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placid whale
hey guys can anyone show a screenshot of what conduits and traits etc kyrian arms is running in 2s?
full quiver
Then they’d have to eat a spear or vice versa
Nah you use that shit on their pet and one shot it lol
sharp meteor
been playing big spear conduit on kyrian recently and warbreaker spear actually murders pets if they don't have mend pet already rolling
had a game where we 100-0'd the pet twice through exhil in the first few seconds of the match
wet scarab
shit I never thought of doing that, that's a great idea
spice hornet
What annoys me is the buff to pet Rez
-1 sec off the castp#
It’s not hard to get your pet back anymore
Vrnthyr auto root and run around a pillar
sharp meteor
can be very tricky in 3v3
normal trellis
necrolord best for ret/shaman comp? stat prio ver > haste=crit?
twilit ridge
graceful lagoon
am i supposed to use slam in my fury rotation? im lvl 20. i usually go charge -> hamstring -> bloodthirst -> raging blow -> use those until i can use rampage
elder wigeon
slam is a negative dps button for fury
sharp meteor
i actually didn't know that fury had slam
quasi lotus
Because it shouldn't
sharp meteor
i remember hearing that we got shield block as arms and im like siiick sword and board coming back
but it's just inefficient clunky and shitty
like ok
gaunt dune
sharp meteor
uhh probaably bracers because neck is full of vers and vers is probably king
but it shouldn't matter too much
probs grab the one that's less expensive on your realm lmao
uncut sparrow
Hello! I am starting level 20 fury twink, which race do you recommend for pvp?
uncut pollen
do people actually use shield block in pvp
sharp meteor
Hello! I am starting level 20 fury twink, which race do you recommend for pvp?
No idea, if Twinkinfo/Expoff or w/e is still around try them. For all I know it could be Vulpera because their little dildo throw hits for too much or something.
sharp meteor
do people actually use shield block in pvp
Not at last check.
warped warren
i actually didn't know that fury had slam
all warr specs have it
sharp meteor
Yeah that occurred to me after, that it was just one of those baseline things
graceful lagoon
Hello! I am starting level 20 fury twink, which race do you recommend for pvp?
orc
graceful lagoon
Hello! I am starting level 20 fury twink, which race do you recommend for pvp?
or human
uncut pollen
how does disarm work exactly vs monks and feral
sharp meteor
i think it does something? against ww but it's minor
maybe it's fists of fury they can't use? anyways just don't pick disarm into either
or bm hunter
nimble jasper
maybe it's fists of fury they can't use? anyways just don't pick disarm into eit...
only stops fof
so literally almost nothing
sharp meteor
yeah
sharp meteor
yeah it's just for the parry and to proc whirling
nimble jasper
always confused when i run into monks fisting
sharp meteor
current incarnation of ww doesn't feel great
nimble jasper
in their keefers window
yeah its basically
afk till you get bonedust back
then try to gib someone with bdb keefer’s
its not even fun to play
till you get some troll ass game like killing a dh 100-0 through blur dark trinket
nimble jasper
i was helping a friend on the monk
and got called terrible
by a dh that blurs on cd
sharp meteor
i got so many whispers in bfa from dhs who'd kick immolate
idk why dh players in particular think hitting their stuff the second it's available is the play
nimble jasper
some warrior players at low rating too
sharp meteor
like wow sick 0.15s kick on my fire school here eat three bolts u git
nimble jasper
had a guy run right into a double sweep on his healer
like idk how tf that wasnt obvious it was coming
also ferals who legit do nothing but 1min voke run away
sharp meteor
yeah it's like they don't have a response to the sweep if they both get hit
oh yeah kyrian as well
nimble jasper
and telegraph they’re gonna do it by popping tigers fury
sharp meteor
run run run big blue 40k bite chomp dead
nimble jasper
2-3 gcds ahead
sharp meteor
yeah snapshot all their stuff
and most people don't notice
because nobody knows what feral does lmao
nimble jasper
tho one time
sharp meteor
feral frenzy is like warbreaker and people are like omg why i die
sharp meteor
oh yeah voke big dam
nimble jasper
i mean it was a disc healer and he wasnt in cc
i was expecting dome
didnt happen
do you even run feral frenzy as nf
sharp meteor
idk actually i hadn't messed around with it
was trying necro and kyrian to play kitty
nimble jasper
warbreaker is just that one ability every has a giant wa for
idk i just see the debuff on me like, welp
@sharp meteor theres alot of big cds i swear people dont respect
raw summit
Blizzard has finally nerfed hunters https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148...
Not a pvp trinky
warped warren
do you even run feral frenzy as nf
nop
low sigil
Can Enduring Blow work for NL Warrior PvP?
fickle forge
Can Enduring Blow work for NL Warrior PvP?
NL warrior?
low sigil
Necrolord
fickle forge
Permanent
low sigil
On helmet right?
fickle forge
If you can get it to 262 yes
low sigil
What would be the substitute? Battlelord?
normal trellis
Necro best for Ret teammate?
low sigil
Now I’m a bit confused, do I go with Haste over Crit as Necrolord
With Versatility
I’ve seen the pinned but everyone is playing it differently
Or it’s simply my choice
low sigil
Cool, thanks a lot
warm quiver
I played kyrian with a necro dh last night in 3s. That’s a pretty zug zug comp. Was fun though.
thick reef
Necro best for Ret teammate?
ye nerco war best with ret pala
mild pier
Just switched to necro a couple days ago. Never seen executes that big
trail mortar
whats the best 2v2 (arms holy pala) and 3v3 (arms ret healer )arms warrior legendaries?
main silo
What legy should my rshaman run for 2s ? I play kyrian war and uses earth elemental legy. Is that fine or should he get a healing one ?
trail mortar
do I need to play ventry in 2s with holy pala and kryian in 3v3s with ret healer
elder wigeon
nobody plays venthyr
trail mortar
oh are they nerfed?
elder wigeon
indirectly yes, multiple times
armor nerf = condemn does less damage relative to execute, execute buffed by 10% after that
Elysian might made it so that venthyr's niche of high uptime was available to a covenant that had execute, making venthyr obsolete, and necrolord's banner rework made the covenant unmatched in burst and offers good uptime during banner
wicked magnet
switch
elder wigeon
in my non-professional opinion, Necrolord = Kyrian > Night Fae > Venthyr
trail mortar
isnt kyrian still super good with ret because of spear?
elder wigeon
I wouldn't switch yet, get 80, then swap, and purchase a 40 renown boost
trail mortar
does necro beat that?
trail mortar
ohh
wicked magnet
you can buy the renown boost if you have the renown on another character right?
elder wigeon
yes
trail mortar
none of my characters have renowws 80
wicked magnet
oh ok
elder wigeon
then stay venthyr until 80
wicked magnet
yes, agreed
trail mortar
oh okay
dense arrow
Silly question maybe, but does Ancient Aftershock cause DR on Stormbolt?
sharp meteor
I thought it was its own thing
like off DR knockdown that u can full bolt out of
i rly want to play rdruid frost tsg and just grip people into a vortex then drop the pixie slam on them
wet scarab
why isn't Kleia used more frequently as a soulbind? it feels like a lot of the abilities there are pretty solid, few of them actual filler
plain wing
Has it been confirmed we can use 2 leggos in pvp? Cuz 9.2 is about to be the most busted / one shot like gameplay this game has ever seen hahah
mighty cargo
Gives an Makro to swap Talents on bars? like this? #showtooltip /cast [talent:3/3] Verwunden /cast [talent:3/2] Rune of Power but maybe that i can write [talent:3/3] and then swap to a pvp talent?
elder wigeon
Has it been confirmed we can use 2 leggos in pvp? Cuz 9.2 is about to be the mos...
yes, you can use 1 covenant and 1 non covenant legendary
elder wigeon
why isn't Kleia used more frequently as a soulbind? it feels like a lot of the a...
CDR on spear from mikanikos as well as auto-phial and auto-stun has immense value into most comps in the game, kleia is very strong into assassination rogues and ferals
wet scarab
wouldn't the auto-stun and auto-phial be more useful on rogues and ferals given stunlocks?
the perma-slow also seems really nice
elder wigeon
being able to phial for someone else and make them immune to bleeds for 8 seconds is invaluable
it also clears and makes them immune to flayed shot, which means the hunter cannot get kill shot procs for 8+ seconds
it completely shuts down an entire go, you or a teammate cannot die
use it wisely
wet scarab
it sounds really interesting
do you get the out of combat shield at the start of arena?
cleansing rites
plain wing
@elder wigeon 9.2 is about to be a crapshoot eh hahah
elder wigeon
do you get the out of combat shield at the start of arena?
yes
elder wigeon
<@!175350342349881344> 9.2 is about to be a crapshoot eh hahah
it'll be interesting, maximum borrowed power
sharp meteor
curious to see how new trinket bonus works
like if it leads to things slowing down a bit
to counteract the new legendaries
plain wing
whats the new trinket bonus?
sharp meteor
i don't remember it's like mainstat or something instead of vers
plain wing
oh dang
rough mountain
For Necro, is the Insignia with haste better than badge? Seeing as we are trying to stack as much haste as possible now.
elder wigeon
i wonder then if enchanting and gemming into vers in 9.2 is troll then
seems like there's no point to having more versatility other than pure damage reduction which even then it's not that much
sharp meteor
will be interesting to see people potentially branch out a bit more
drifting vector
What's the holy priest rezz weak aura?
sharp meteor
yeah no earthen wall
u can tell they aren't playing it
because their team is dead
sharp meteor
ur on voice with ur ret
u don't communicate when ur going
and u don't notice when he lights up like a christmas tree
sonic star
wouldn't be asking for a weakaura if any of those were an option
quasi zephyr
@sonic star https://wago.io/3eNkPIMAV
sonic star
@quasi zephyr missclick or?
sonic star
ah np
gentle roost
anyone know when season 2 is ending?
I am going to start PvPing at the beginning of season 3, so I am just going to give up on season 2 and get the catchup gear from season 3
onyx dagger
Yesterday I went from no PvP gear to 60% 249 in pvp gear just from doing 2s and the weekly quests that give conq
gentle roost
but after the PvP season is over, can't you just buy gear?
onyx dagger
And that was having never played arms before in my life 😂
What do you mean buy gear? Like with gold?
gentle roost
I meant honor gear
onyx dagger
Like season 2 honor gear? You'd be so far behind at s3 start.
gentle roost
season 3 honor gear
woeful eagle
correct i am planning to do some pvp also and its been said to me to start farming now 🙂
the only problem is replacing the pve gear into pvp gear with the good knowledge about what items first and stuff
onyx dagger
I mean...s3 honor gear will get you to about s2 conq gear, maybe a little higher
gentle roost
so should I start farming gear for s3?
onyx dagger
Yup. Spend a week pvping when you can, you'll be fully geared up to whatever rating bracket you can hit
gentle roost
kk, gotcha
solar yoke
hey all, how much haste should a necro arms warrior be aiming for?
elder wigeon
as much as you want
solar yoke
no specific % to be aiming for?
sharp meteor
nope
full quiver
I mean...s3 honor gear will get you to about s2 conq gear, maybe a little higher
No it will be way behind 259 pvp ilvl
They time gate the honor gear upgrade
warm quiver
Anyone record their games to watch later? I’ve been stuck between 2.1-2.2 on this warrior and I know it’s gotta be bc I’m misplaying
Or drunk que to much. What programs do y’all recommend.
elder wigeon
shadowplay is extremely easy (if nvidia gpu), otherwise squadov
thick reef
what lag tolerance do u guys set it at? my home/world latency are both 50-55 ms
onyx dagger
How do I align banner with other CDs? If I send everything on go do I told Avatar for second banner or na? Or do I just play depending on teams go overall?
spice hornet
mm hunters literally make random battlegorunds so unfun
sharp meteor
they do lmao especially with craven
fickle forge
I am going to start PvPing at the beginning of season 3, so I am just going to g...
Just saying fam, but conq is capped in early season and the honor gear usually can't be fully upgraded until quite a few weeks in.
There's no catchup if you don't sit with a 259 set before season 3
sharp meteor
Yeah, you can come in fresh but there's seldom a downside to coming in geared.
fickle forge
It's rough being behind on gear until like week 8-9
sharp meteor
It's certainly relaxing to get rival-duelist week 1
then knock out the 2-3 cache with rat rbgs
wild mantle
For arms pvp you use rend a lot? Working on keybinds and have it on F and thinking of putting execute their
sharp meteor
I like rend into pve 2v2 matchups, like arms mirror
very easy to rage starve yourself with it though especially in 3v3
also reduced value vs low or lower armor targets
wild mantle
I’m doing bgs now to get into pvp
So like I have execute on 2 rend one f so thinking of moving rend to TorG
sharp meteor
Probably don't worry about rend right now, just run massacre
wild mantle
Ya I’m talking about the button not talent
sharp meteor
I still have mine in a prime location from when I'd always play it. Feels bad but I'm not sure I could get used to having it moved.
wild mantle
2 is a lil awkward but can use it but F will be better for execute
So should I buy honor gear?
sharp meteor
Ideally you're trying to get into super low MMR ranked asap to avoid having to dump honor into honor gear, and rather into conquest upgrades
but some honor gear is probablly fine what with how fast gains are this week
leaden pasture
when you use overpower 2 times and theres a buff x2 does it go to 40% increase mortal strike also are we suppose to overpower then mortal strike then over power then mortal strike or overpower 2 times then mortal strike
sharp meteor
keep ms on cd but don't ms into sharpen
don't overpower when u already have 2 stacks
can build 2 overpower stacks before bursting maybe but don't sit on dam for more than a few seconds
cursive valve
Hi all, is there a necrolord Arms warrior macro for activating all the burst buffs? I tried to find it anywhere without much luck
fickle forge
So should I buy honor gear?
You're gonna need about 85k honor to fully upgrade the conquest set, so I'd hold back on the honor gear if I were you
leaden pasture
what weapon are arms warriors using i recently hit 1950 to unlock upgrades again but i dont know if i should spend 3000 honor to upgrade the critvers one maybe i should buy vers mastery weapon then upgrade it to max
raw summit
Stick with yours
sharp meteor
No, it's only for this season, and only on that char.
leaden pasture
kk
brisk egret
Hey, I recently switched to necrolord. Playing 2s and 3s casually so don’t have much time to run Thorgast. If there’s one legendary to craft, which one would you pick for arms?
wheat jay
EB
brisk egret
Thx
warped warren
For arms pvp you use rend a lot? Working on keybinds and have it on F and thinki...
rend as haste necro against high armor targets and targets you can stick to, eg priests
warped warren
if u get a duelist title is that permanet on your warrior
no
languid swift
I assume honor and conquest resets at season change so you cant save it up and buy new gear straight away?
warped warren
ye
languid swift
Lol thats gonna blow, not for the casual gamer is it 😂
gusty zinc
Just getting into arena and am wondering if there is a recommended vers % or softcap? Everything possible is slotted/enchanted with vers currently at 32% and wondering at what point I should look to change some of those to crit/haste.
raw summit
Max Versa is good
warped warren
Lol thats gonna blow, not for the casual gamer is it 😂
considering a season is like half a year or more, its not bad
warped warren
Just getting into arena and am wondering if there is a recommended vers % or sof...
atm you want high vers on every piece
onyx dagger
Any tips on lining up necro banner with other CDs?
quiet blade
As a Kyrian Arms using Elysian might legendary, Should i go Vers crit, or vers haste?
raw summit
Vers crit generally
warped warren
its preferential 
drowsy crypt
so i just recently leveled my warrior, and only really want to play fury. just bought a race change for it. currently worgen. looking at either mechagnome or lightforged draenei. just can't decide. ideas?
wicked magnet
so i just recently leveled my warrior, and only really want to play fury. just b...
🤔 why those 2 choices?
drowsy crypt
how the racials seem to line up with fury, and necrolord.
wicked magnet
i main a gnome, ive almost always mained a gnome and i didnt really think my racial was all that great but then i tried warrior on other races and man not having escape artist really pisses me off xD
drowsy crypt
yeah, that escape artist can be great, but they can just root again lol
to me, fury has some nice damage, but the problem is having only 1 defensive that's...eh
sure 30% damage reduction and bloodthirst healing 23% of your max hp sounds nice, but when you can do it maybe twice in those 8 seconds...and its a three minute CD...not so much
raw summit
Stoneform maybe
drowsy crypt
i mean, it's helped some on my monk (dwarf monk), but idk.
raw summit
Keep in mind you have a conduit reducing CD on your Frenzied Regen by like 60%
Or was it 55 idk
drowsy crypt
its like 32 seconds
raw summit
Huge
drowsy crypt
im dumb, the baseline is 2 minutes. idk why i thought 3.
raw summit
32 even bigger
full quiver
I mean you're gonna have a bad time as fury regardless
So just pick whatever u like look of
raw summit
The sweaty play is Arms and orc but i know you dont want that
drowsy crypt
was doing well with a ret yesterday, but i need one that'll offheal and bubble.
helps the necrolord banner buffs their burst too lol
i could always go back to battle trance. but i'd have to give up warbringer, enduring rage, or my only source of healing reduction
battle trance: heal 3% of hp and 5 rage every 3 seconds for 18 seconds after using raging blow twice in a row on the same target. using raging blow on a new target will cancel this effect.
so can't stack it.
raw summit
Yea i know what it does
drowsy crypt
not everyone does, so wasn't sure
if they'd allow rampage and raging blow use with a shield on, i might be fine. lol.
drowsy crypt
wouldn't you have to leave combat?
drowsy crypt
you can change weapons during combat?
raw summit
Dont need haste in it just need to cast Shieldblock
Since you cant use your main stuff anyways
drowsy crypt
yeah, ignore pain is eh atm.
raw summit
True
drowsy crypt
damn, i should've looked for this macro before starting arena on this toon.
raw summit
Not too impactful
You can also do it on Arms and hardly anyone does
Hurts your damage a lot and does do shit vs combust
drowsy crypt
i was told this didnt work anymore.
drowsy crypt
i mean, most people i talk to play arms only lol
yeah, i just bought one to try
works fine in arena, just gotta practice it
leaden pasture
hey im 1954 i was at 1992 but went back to back losses back to 1954 what should i do at this point too get the 2k achievemnt i think here are the options venthyr stacking crit or stacking haste or necrolord stacking crit or stacking haste
raw summit
Necro > Venth generally
raw summit
Necro favours haste however if you have the pieces try both
trail mortar
whats stat prio for necro arms warrior /ret 3v3
brisk egret
What’s an alternative to EB as Necrolord? I only have Executionerr from Venthyr or Tormeted King.
gusty zinc
Yea that was my question earlier? Just stack that shit sky high with gems and enchants too or is there a softcap?
hard nacelle
38% is as low vers as I wanna run
dense dagger
everyone in rbg with 3k ms ping but everything else works just fine
great blizz
actually happens in oribos too
wicked magnet
wtf is this lag
u guys arent having weird arena lag today?
no packet loss on my connection yet arena is lagging so bad
rapid shore
dense dagger
no packet loss on my connection yet arena is lagging so bad
ye tarren mill is lagging heavy
in bg it was like 4k ms to world, now it's this at home
cursed
dry portal
grave oriole
hey im 1954 i was at 1992 but went back to back losses back to 1954 what should ...
If you have both stats. You wanna go crit against squishcomps who you know you can 1shot/2shot. Haste is better for consistency.
Ill give 2 examples:
A: BM/WW/Rogues/feral. I usually play crit since (with BS lego) you melt them in 2 hits (yes, BM is a hard opponent, but I usually 2shotted them through RoS).
B: warr/Dk/pala/disc/sham/rdruid. They are tough classes/specs to kill. Palas & DKs have a huge advantage due to insane selfheal, but sharpen blade used at the right times makes it easier. I would put feral as a tough opponent. But they die as easy as monks ^^
And for any elitist that wants to pitch in, it's just for 2.1k, any comp at 2.7+ is hard to deal with.
Priest/lock I havent rly met that much, either Ive stomped them, or I've been stomped by them. I don't feel like I can give much input on them. Demo is unbearable to be up against at least!
I can add that I played crit all the way coz I like big numbers 🙃
sharp meteor
i can agree with this tbh crit vs lower uptime stuff where you want more value in burst windows feels nice
warped warren
crit poopoo
elder wigeon
nothing makes crit feel more trash than never critting on your cds
warped warren
+1
elder wigeon
annoying thing is, when playing against RMP or a frost mage or something of the sort, even when playing full crit, you hit them for 30K and they just shrug it off
warped warren
yea, which is why haste >>>
sharp meteor
cringe rmp shielding
warped warren
🙂
main silo
playing with rshaman in 2's does this look fine?
elder wigeon
that's fine
main silo
ty
sharp meteor
nimble jasper
i mean do you really want to see yourself getting bonked
by both mindgames and ascended blast
actually mage with all 4 cov abilities monkaW
scarlet barn
Dude has ptsd
While being hunter
Not realising there are scarier things that would exist
nimble jasper
You mean being kyrian arrow'ed w/ chakrams and proc killshots?
nimble jasper
i think you mean feral
onyx dagger
Any folks have any advice for how to align necro banner with other CDs after first go?
scarlet barn
woeful eagle
So we go necrolord or Kyrian for arms ?
sharp meteor
right now they both good
kyrian looking good in 9.2 because big spear + x
necro remains to be seen because glory is NOT ideal
teal nest
what leggo would u say is bis for pvp i saw few different ones circling around
raw summit
Depends on covenant
teal nest
Necro
says endurin or battlelord
i feel more comfy playing with battlelord but if endurin is better i would get used to i guess
jaunty furnace
Why does arms have a million keybinds for pvp how do you set that all up
raw summit
Most classes have more binds in pvp because of focus target things aswell as defensives and ofc the Trinkets
What's a good option is to have your Bars ready with all your keybinds you usually use and them fill them with 1st your main Buttons 2nd Trinket and defensives 3rd Honor talents 4th Arena stuff like intervene
Or something like that
teal nest
but keybinding comes to mussle memory after
raw summit
Yup
teal nest
How about leggo is battlelord viable
raw summit
It's viable for sure
teal nest
im switching to arms from fury
so battlelord is only way that will make me play arms ahah
raw summit
Then play battlelord
teal nest
i got stuck on 1.8 as fury so i need to switch now to push arms
raw summit
Gl
teal nest
tq 🙂
leaden pasture
i was looking into kyrian after venth and necro is this the way u set some one up fireblood spear avatar warbreaker blade storm or is it fireblood spear avatar warbreaker mortal strike overpower execute
raw summit
Fireblood is the racial from dark iron right?
leaden pasture
yep
lucid walrus
Why does arms have a million keybinds for pvp how do you set that all up
i can barely fill my bars ngl
i still have a couple free spaces on the bottom. mouseover vene is a large reason for this
teal nest
also as zanda coz of racial that gives me 4% crit should i put bit more mastery/ haste in to compensate
raw summit
Haste>mastery
lucid walrus
also as zanda coz of racial that gives me 4% crit should i put bit more mastery/...
mastery is a meme stat
teal nest
So basically vers>crit>hate>Mastery
teal nest
Got it thanks for the info
sharp meteor
Yes. That won't intentionally be taken advantage of for a while, but you may inadvertently find yourself in a bad spot just binding it into your "go" macro.
leaden pasture
oh
hey what do u think about when u spear and the dudes foot is attached to a blue lazer connected to the spear and he tries to leave if you get out of the spear circle to reach him do u still benefit from the spear and leggo abilities
llike the crit buff
sharp meteor
u get the crit buff when ur in the circle
debuff on him is dot/tether
this is why shaman pool and ring are super annoying
undone sage
hey, when playing melee cleave vs melee cleave in 3s, usually its got a warr so anger management instead of dreadnaught (to desync your CS with enemy warr disarm), but somehow im preferring to keep dreadnaught. question is: since its a constant cleave fest, after 1st warbreaker + sweeping strikes, is it worth to keep sweeping (30 sec cd) for 15 more sec. etc to sync it with the next warbreaker?
leaden pasture
yo i just hit 2k
warrior power jk lol
😀
warrior party at my house we got xanax bars expensive beer
jk lol naw im just hapy
full quiver
Nice!
frank knoll
Never forget
https://youtu.be/WVcgRyrXxgA
sharp meteor
didn't include the clips of me doming him
legit charged in
and got life gripped back
sharp meteor
didnt queue into ssds tho it was matt on spriest
frank knoll
Bro fuckin pro comms between the hunter and the monk and then asmon “okey okey, I’m spinning I’m spinning”
thick reef
anyone use sarena? how do i remove the dynamic icon that shows important buff/debuff?
wet scarab
I’m really liking piercing verdict. Accidentally killed a warrior today with it while peeling my priest
It’s also a shit ton of pressure on hunters if it’s right after they feign
trail mortar
with unhinged, what happens if it procs during warbreaker effect
does it extend the duration?
grand light
Ya
wicked magnet
i did not understand that question, did you mean enduring blow?
lucid walrus
with unhinged, what happens if it procs during warbreaker effect
assuming you mean enduring extending WB, yeah it does
warped warren
you also extend the proc with manual wb
warm quiver
How often is everyone pressing ignore pain ? I was told my damage is low and I think I might be using IP to much.
warped warren
hit hunter
if druid plays super aggro, swap on him if hes overextended without hots
trail mortar
how do we choose our kill target as ret/warr
elder wigeon
what do you think makes a good kill target?
elder wigeon
not always
kill targets aren't so static a lot of the time it becomes who has bad positioning, less cooldowns, who actually takes damage
some comps like Jungle or RMP, the healer is the main kill target
but ret war shouldn't ever win vs RMP
trail mortar
against rmp we kill healer?
warped warren
wicked magnet
whatever creates a cleave situation where i can do the most damage that doesn't result in me getting my ass handed to me
thick reef
YES!!! made 1800 in 2s and 3s 😄
elder wigeon
congrats
warm quiver
Is it better to save MS for 2 OP buffs or just send it off cd?
thick reef
my ilvl 249 when i made it too 1800. 2s with holypriest. and 3s with resdruid+retpala and disc+mage
best was to killtarget healer most times. and swap when they got lots of heals or def
trail mortar
hmm
thick reef
if we against melee healer and not 2x dps with melee. i drop disarm, for sharpen and charge exe. and use shacklemedalion.
thick reef
i does goes bad if u use it as first attack. u want to not be cced during it
sharp meteor
if they don't have a stop it's reasonable but like
i feel like in general warrior wants one of the basic ones
insignia, badge
thick reef
but vs hunter works good. when they run away when u cant keep up
did went full haste and mastery built 17haste 16 mastery (5crit)
wheat jay
Depends on who it is, affli dk probably affli, also depends on what you play, dk is squishy against melee kinda, so as KFC both are good targets, ret warr i dunno
Elemental + warr would probably be Elemental
sharp meteor
queued into aff/fdk and had to go fdk as turbo
trail mortar
we play ret/war random healer
sharp meteor
like actually zero chance of us killing the aff
waddling through abom grip chains sleet
wheat jay
If you can't Reach you hit whatever you can while moving to lock
Or lining lock
So he comes closer
sharp meteor
i feel like we usually play to oom disc and run at holy
tender oyster
Hi all, quick question about the "sharpen blade" pvp talent ability. I don't understand why people think it's so great.
Yes it increases mortal strike damage by 15%, and it decreases healing received by 50%. Normal mortal strike has 50% reduction anyway. Would anyone please explain? 🙏
tender oyster
Oh
sharp meteor
high value except into maybe disc rmp because they mostly have shielding
tender oyster
Idk how I missed that. Thank you!
sharp meteor
just remember that mortal striking into sharpen doesn't apply ms, so wounds falls off when sharpen ends, which can leave a gap that observant healers may exploit
yeah i think the tooltip only updates in pvp
so at a glance might not make sense
tender oyster
Very interesting! I will practice this. Thanks man! 😃
pastel basalt
are there any 2v2 fury warrior youtubers / streamers?
steady tiger
best 2's comp with arms war?
sharp meteor
either resto is a pretty good time
steady tiger
what about damage shit like ret paly or mm hunter
bout to boost a class to play with my war friend not sure whats best tho
wheat jay
For 2s you want to play survi Hunter, dh, outlaw, arms, that's all
Those are meta for 2s now
Sub is also very good
sharp meteor
bout to boost a class to play with my war friend not sure whats best tho
rsham rdruid imo best
have seen a few people playing enh/arms or arms/feral tho which seems fun
solar radish
so i have not played in a long time. should i be buying the current pvp gear? all my stuff from a long time ago is like i lvl 190~ currently.
*honor gear
jaunty furnace
I can’t see what role people are in the default PvP LFG anymore
When trying to join a group
trail kelp
Hey guys! Is Diminishing Returns classified as a Buff or Debuff? Or something else?
scarlet sorrel
its something else
you can get addons that track them for you... Gladius or SArena both do that
trail kelp
Alright thanks! Yep know that but I wanted to create a nameplate script that shows when it's running out and I cannot find its classification
Guess I'll just try all of them to find (if it's even possible to use that)
mild pier
Yo for this season if I hit a certain rating like 1950 for example and then drop below it can I still upgrade my gear to that until the week resets?
sharp meteor
Correct.
If you're 2130, win a match, then lose 30 in a row all the way down to 1600 then you'll still be able to upgrade your gear to 2100/duelist until Tuesday. The important bit is that you have a win in the bracket you want rewards from.
hushed bramble
Dear pvp warriors, my warrior friend seems to crit his executes about 1/10th of the time as the enemy warrior. Is there some talent or CD that he should be using to increase execute crits?
gloomy warren
so, im not seeing gladius cast bars very well and i realized i should probably set this addon up better, anyone have a guide for the best way to set gladius up perchance? everything i look at is hella old, like 2018 etc. dorry to be a bother.
elder wigeon
Dear pvp warriors, my warrior friend seems to crit his executes about 1/10th of ...
technically speaking yes, ashen juggernaut, but it's terrible and honestly it's all luck, I don't like playing crit
I firmly believe crit only has a place if you're playing against a comp you'll have extremely low uptime on, IE, shadow play or MLD
hushed bramble
thank you 🙂
sharp meteor
there's also just sample size
i had a game where like 8 sd procs all crit with like 12% crit
ran over that poor ret so hard
oak latch
Can fury do well in worlds/randoms as necrolord or still will get destroyed in most 1v1s versus decent players ?
sharp meteor
gear plays a pretty significant factor
oak latch
Yeah good point.
steep inlet
I firmly believe crit only has a place if you're playing against a comp you'll h...
what ?
vague dawn
does the increase 25 percent to crit show up on the stat sheet for Elysian Might
Instant
Requires Warrior
Spear of Bastion's duration is increased by 4 sec. While you remain within Spear of Bastion's area your critical strike damage is increased by 25%?
while standing in the blue spear zone
vague dawn
oh my mistake, ty
sage raptor
What pvp talents should I be bringing to BGs for Arms? I'd imagine the rallying cry no?
elder wigeon
I like sharpen death sentence and storm of destruction, but I don't do tryhard rbgs
sharp meteor
yeah that's what i generally go with
occasionally duel if there's some giant ret/ww that i don't want vaporizing my little team
sage raptor
Ty
plain wing
unhinged vs enduring blow as necro?
elder wigeon
enduring blow
sharp meteor
i just play enduring almost every game
occasionally queue into another necro running unhinged with storm
warped warren
sephuz is the real gamer move
jaunty furnace
why does everyone think they are not capable of doing it themselves lol
lucid walrus
i knew a guy at 2.3 in 2s on necro fury with about as many games played. had a disc with him
scarlet barn
why does everyone think they are not capable of doing it themselves lol
Because generally fury is not great so other two specs need to make up for it 👀
mild pier
Fury is fine
I've seen a lot of fury players lately which I thought was weird but that spec pumps
raw summit
it pumps but also just kinda dies
fickle forge
Fury is fine
mild pier
Every time I see one they're a duelist so it must not be that bad but idk
pastel basalt
is there a site where i can check talents / legendaries better than on check-pvp? shows me fury is using exploiter unless im wrong
mild pier
Maybe it's just good players making it look better than it is
scarlet barn
I've seen a lot of fury players lately which I thought was weird but that spec p...
Yea fury pumps. In m+ 
fickle forge
Every time I see one they're a duelist so it must not be that bad but idk
What if I told you that roughly 4% of warrs above 2.1k are fury warrs?
pastel basalt
fury definetly feels much worse than arms but its fun
lucid walrus
is there a site where i can check talents / legendaries better than on check-pvp...
probably means he logged out wearing it. the alternative is armory and that has the same issue
pastel basalt
ah okay thank you
btw is 259 jaithys worse than a pvp weapon? i wont be able to get the 2.4 version
elder wigeon
jaithys is slightly better
gaunt rover
such thing as too low haste or is this chillin? sitting at 0 mastery, 77 haste
elder wigeon
which of these is fear
fear is on the disorient DR
elder wigeon
such thing as too low haste or is this chillin? sitting at 0 mastery, 77 haste
play whatever you want
gaunt rover
well yeah but obv trying to be as optimal as possible lol
idk if im shooting myself in the foot for having such low haste
elder wigeon
I really enjoy the consistency of haste and feeling less global contrained, I play with 18% haste
sharp meteor
well yeah but obv trying to be as optimal as possible lol
some people playing full crit, others full haste, others haste>crit
gaunt rover
im playing with EM right now
sharp meteor
i like necro with enduring then just focusing on throughput so it's haste and insignia as general picks for me
but magnus is like 3300 playing full crit kyrian and just slamming people in the teeth each spear
gaunt rover
yeah hes def my inspo for going this route, i tried necro and didnt feel AS impactful as spear
esp since i mostly 2s
even he has like 5 percent haste so wasnt sure if it was just cause hes got glad gear compared to my rival, or if hes allocating to reach a certain eprcent
sharp meteor
issue with no haste can be super slow globals, from duelling to disarming or bladestorming an enemy disarm
so have to make sure everything is super clean on that front
but yeah at the end of the day it's mostly how you play
vague dawn
does necro or spear warr work better with a dh in 3s?
minor vector
whichever you prefer playing, both work fine
you kinda just do your own thing in war/dh anyways
while making sure no one gets clapped
spice hornet
i swear mm hunter is the most played spec rn (all forms of pvp like rando bgs, etc.)
sharp meteor
uh its pretty up there in random bgs lmao
sharp meteor
like i zone in and each team is 4 male elf hunters
legolasx doing 40k of my poor alts health from a mile away
wheat jay
Who cares about non rated stuff tho
wheat jay
I dunno, I play all pvp content and only see them in random bg
Arena rarely
Whether its 2s or 3s
spice hornet
they are around 1800ish a lot
my most recent games
all mm
one time i zone into random bg on alt and there were 10 total hunters
kekw
wheat jay
That's only your recent games tho
Just because you meet a spec often doesnt mean its popular or swarming every game mode
sharp meteor
i mean that's the ladder overall not recent trends
dh+boomie probs went up 1000% in popularity
wheat jay
That's current ladder % of people above certain rating
It actually does take recent trends into considerstion
Since it takes data from current ladder
And yes, dh did surge up
sharp meteor
necro really pushed dh into a solid spot
so glad blizz didn't buff them prior to that discovery woo
wheat jay
People just found a good comp and strategy for it
cedar silo
i swear, bm priest/rdruid is the most infuriating thing to play against
sharp meteor
execute buff + armor nerf kind of questionable for venth
sharp meteor
i swear, bm priest/rdruid is the most infuriating thing to play against
i feel like it's usually fine unless vs one of the good hunters but they all play surv
as long as u have an rdruid
cedar silo
Im also kinda at a loss versus affliction rsham
bm whatever is fine, its just so fucking annoying to play against
its like frostmage rdruid from bfa
sharp meteor
i vaugely recall pulling up 2s ladder at one point in i think bfa
and #1 was a frost mage with a 98% wr over like 800 games
like ok
cedar silo
warriors couldnt play the game
sharp meteor
those must b some fun matches
cedar silo
or wasnt allowed to at least lol
My biggest issues right now are afflocks and 2x dps ret comps
have yet to feel something is unfair in 3s
lucid walrus
Just because you meet a spec often doesnt mean its popular or swarming every gam...
q'd with a buddy's alt and played into 3 dh teams straight
starting to think that class is good or something
spice hornet
undergeared death knight is the hardest class to help carry holy sht
literally gets 1 shotted by every melee
robust carbon
plain wing
game is so fucking dead
idk why i keep playing and letting myself get so worked up over pvp
like just getting killed in 3 globals every game or bg
isnt fun
so few people to play with....... empty
solar radish
i feel so terrible trying to gear up...people have 20k more health then me in rando BGS...big oof
solar radish
one day for me maybe lol
frosty flower
undergeared death knight is the hardest class to help carry holy sht
Yeah it sucks
plain wing
crafting elysian might for all around use would it be better to do vers/crit or vers/haste
sharp meteor
idk u do u
people play both
crit more potential burst but also more susceptible to being peeled on said burst
plain wing
oh i didnt even think about kyrian crit
with crti dam leggo
is going haste a throw?
im gonna get destroyed either way i guess 💀
sharp meteor
is going haste a throw?
lol no smexxin went vers>haste>mastery with no crit to like 3300 or something as kyrian
wet scarab
one of the most satisfying ability synergies is how death sentence goes through ring of peace
sharp meteor
certainly nice for dealing with a spec that's generally a pain
plain wing
this game is a fucking joke
ququeing into double ferals
that just kite me
and run the whole game
then kill me while haeler is cloned
idk how you guys play pvp so hardcore
fucking pvp is dogshit tilting
literally the most infuriating fucking game ever.
god fucking dammit.
spice hornet
your first mistake is taking 2s seriously
plain wing
fucking joke.
spice hornet
fastest way to tilt yourself
plain wing
i mean ill be even worse in 3s
spice hornet
no it wont
frosty flower
Can’t win every game
plain wing
absolute joke of a game tho. Idk how you guys do it.
Play when its this infuriating
2 ferals
just perma shifting outta slow
kiting me
and los'ing on pillar
until they can get my healer in clone
and kill me
fucking dogshit game.
frosty flower
Try playing a class not a strong as war it’s gets worse
spice hornet
yeah i ts a shitty comp to fight in 2s
its not an easy win it really isnt
because they can get away from you 100% no matter what
if they are good
but againm just get 2100 in 2s and never q it again
plain wing
I never look ahead and pre plan cd's
I just use them as they pop up
and it kills me
frosty flower
Stop doing that
frosty flower
It’s not
plain wing
like I dont know when to use them best
frosty flower
Just keep it in your mind
sharp meteor
idk why u getting mad just play
plain wing
like maybe if I woulda held stun and fear at the right time with piercing howl and cd's up
i coulda gotten a kill
sharp meteor
healers smell anger/tilt and run away
plain wing
just dont know
frosty flower
Just gotta keep playing and think of those what if situations
Do I really need to use this now
What’s gonna happen but think fast because you might die in the next 2 seconds
tranquil hemlock
There’s some comps that are just unwinnable unless the other team fucks up
Take the L move forward
frosty flower
I played dh rdruid and slowly walked around the entire game the other day
plain wing
just hard to move forward when i feel lik im not learning anything
and cant apply it to later games
i just button mash every game
tranquil hemlock
Cd tracking is huge
sharp meteor
u do anything in life u should leran something from ur experience, good or bad
frosty flower
Super tilted playing with a glad hpal, asked what I’m supposed to do and he said some games just aren’t winnable
sharp meteor
i mean even if they aren't u can take something from the loss
could've lost less horribly
plain wing
would be like if in RL i just kept running into a brick wall head first
sharp meteor
could've pre'd a go
plain wing
not really learning anything.