scoobs in shambles
#pvp
sharp meteor
raw summit
Banner reck and then Zug Zug
sharp meteor
i just disarm/duel their stuff
thick reef
id say trade parry and be d for every reck + banner
wheat jay
disarm on his cds, just kill him
sharp meteor
and they stop functioning
thick reef
yeah or disarm
cosmic pumice
its so much better than arms or is arms better
thick reef
fk off
cosmic pumice
i get destroyed by fury
wheat jay
they are not super tanky, get cc on healer, msash them
wheat jay
its so much better than arms or is arms better
arms is better in every way possible
raw summit
its so much better than arms or is arms better
Arms is better
wheat jay
i get destroyed by fury
skill issue
sharp meteor
they feel tanky in moderate damage situations
like high burst 3s obviously they pop but
thick reef
arms > fury if u lose its either on ur healer or ur not doing proper cc chains to kill prob
wheat jay
@cosmic pumice ok, have you checked any guides at all?
raw summit
250 ilvl on 1400
cosmic pumice
no, i don't read guides at all, i only learn things myself
wheat jay
if you haven't, please do, and watch some videos so you see what top players do
quasi lotus
the fury player will then look for his parry button
full quiver
Yeah cause he's running non stop LOL
quasi lotus
and when he finds it doesn't exists
wheat jay
no, i don't read guides at all, i only learn things myself
big mistake
quasi lotus
he presses /afk
sharp meteor
oh yeah trade parry into reck and he can't do anything really
sharp meteor
although i feel like i am rarely the target
raw summit
Dude if fury had parry 
thick reef
it rly depends
wheat jay
Yeah cause he's running non stop LOL
i think its more because your calves are chopsticks
raw summit
Fury is bis for open World stuff
wheat jay
Bunch of midgets talking about calf size
aren't you shorter than me?
thick reef
yea it is
raw summit
Leaper + barbarian
thick reef
haha
full quiver
No I'm 6'4 u beta
thick reef
- 2 .3. 4 . 5 .6 leaps
wheat jay
No I'm 6'4 u beta
strong words for someone who's legs are giving up when walking
cosmic pumice
what's the best race then? I am vulpera, but was told orc, but they look ugly
wheat jay
orc
fierce elm
vulpera
cosmic pumice
so ugly though
graceful quarry
female orc is BiS
sharp meteor
panda
quasi lotus
Vulpera is correct
cosmic pumice
my friend told me if you aren't orc you will never get past 1600
sharp meteor
ur friend is bad lmao
thick reef
not true
graceful quarry
your friend is 1800 tho
wheat jay
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
quasi lotus
your friend is 1800 tho
well duh, cuz he's orc
thick reef
i found a tauren war in 3s at 2.3 mmr
graceful quarry
ok yeah imma stop eating the 🎣
thick reef
read guides and watch vids too if u need
wheat jay
ok yeah imma stop eating the 🎣
but its tasty man
full quiver
he is high rating though
What's his name and server
raw summit
ok yeah imma stop eating the 🎣
graceful quarry
i wonder what it does taste like i never tried it i never wanted to
like fish
thick reef
i see
sharp meteor
teriyaki salmon is yum
full quiver
You guys are so mean koolguy just wants to improve
full quiver
Hopefully the mods ban all of u
cosmic pumice
everyone here mean to me, but i will become better than all of you
in 1 month
i will destroy in pvp
cosmic pumice
thank you
sharp meteor
good attitude now to crack some heads
thick reef
everyone here mean to me, but i will become better than all of you
why don't u try not being an asshole first?
sharp meteor
make sure u laugh at all the sweaty orc players
raw summit
/LOL all of them
cosmic pumice
why don't u try not being an asshole first?
deez nuts
wheat jay
y'all act like retards
raw summit
Make them all race change into the only true warrior race
sharp meteor
check what now
scarlet barn
everyone here mean to me, but i will become better than all of you
All right so who´s alt discord is it
At this point
I am like 97% sure it is alt
Or memer
thick reef
deez nuts
so how hard are u laughing behind ur monitor at ppl who honestly tried to help u?
wheat jay
check what now
bench press check
sharp meteor
oh right
thick reef
I am like 97% sure it is alt
there ya go
thick reef
true, ill give u that, if he is trolling us at least its raising activity
quasi lotus
Good, you got at least some activity going in this channel
we got a copy pasta in like 15 languages
it was educational
thick reef
koolguy is going to fucking destroy all of u
scarlet barn
we got a copy pasta in like 15 languages
Best thing of this year
and we only have few days left of it
thick reef
u better watch out u better not pout or cry im telling u why because koolguy is coming to town and going to be r1 vulpera
i miss Christmas already 😦
thick reef
it was revos birthday? pog
raw summit
it was revos birthday? pog
Think it still is actually :pogU:
sharp meteor
i thought you had to be a certain height to roll warr
raw summit
He makes up for it by owning a cat
full quiver
i thought you had to be a certain height to roll warr
No bev is like 4,11
raw summit
Twitter
void cliff
Best partner to push 2s for arms ? Can be kyrian or necro
frank knoll
Picture this, Ret with Necrolord Prot warr in 2s.
Or necro fury running unhinged, can stack it with slaughter house for an 80% mortal strike!
warped warren
Or necro fury running unhinged, can stack it with slaughter house for an 80% mor...
110% mortal !
frank knoll
Bro sleeper op
warped warren
fo sure
pine canyon
Are any of the professions useful for warrior pvp? Arena, bg and/or world pvp
elder wigeon
No
elder wigeon
Best partner to push 2s for arms ? Can be kyrian or necro
Rdruid far and above the best
raw summit
Are any of the professions useful for warrior pvp? Arena, bg and/or world pvp
just go engi for wormhole
sharp meteor
engi for nitro i guess but really play whatever
eager oracle
does anyone have the soulbind tree for necro arms?
sharp meteor
i am not really sure where you could mess it up
3 bigly potency, die by the sword cdr, safeguard
elder wigeon
@eager oracle this is what I play
eager oracle
<@!480588766046715904> this is what I play
ty
void cliff
Kyrian or necro for arms 2s
sharp meteor
they're both good
kyrian probably better at high mmr
but nobody respects conq banner in the depths
eager oracle
i pushed arms/ret in 2s as kyian, not sure if that was the right play but it was an easy comp to a quick 1800
its my understanding that you really only run necro to buff a big dps (like a ret pally?)
elder wigeon
no, necro is huge for yourself as well
20% additional strength and 400 mastery with 4 rage per second for 15 seconds is insane
eager oracle
ah ok, looking to get into some 3s to actually pvp and a lot of groups ask for necro, so just starting to level that up now
normally i stop at 1800 for the mog
full quiver
Necro is way better if you're doing double dps 2s
elder wigeon
for sure
eager oracle
id like to at least make an attempt for one of the dragons by the end of the tier
\
sharp meteor
its my understanding that you really only run necro to buff a big dps (like a re...
nope 400 mastery, movement speed and 20% str is great for you as well
kyrian with necro spriest or necro with ret probably two easiest comps for dargon
eager oracle
see i heard kyrian with spriest
but yeah my guildie got glad as necro war/ret pally
sharp meteor
necro is also good with spriest it's just that like pinning 2 melee that can't get out
is a lot of pressure
drop unholy nova on their head along with psyfiend
sharp meteor
it's nice for keeping them in your teammates los
also nice to peel their cds
retwarr and turbo for instance can't reliably break the tether
eager oracle
yeah im definitely going to try necro out once i do some torgy farming
rough wharf
how does my full pve burst look like as kyr? atm i do spear then warbreaker/trink/racial and then i prio 2 stack ms>exe>overpower>ms is that correct?
rough wharf
yes i mean if i have nothing to do
sharp meteor
i mean there's always the ideal vacuum cycle of stuff
but games aren't super clean unless ur smurfing
rough wharf
nah defo not, just playin warrior for the first time. i just hit 1950 in 3s but i feel like i do less damage than other warriors
sharp meteor
usually it's getting kited or peeled on cds
example being you warbreaker just out of melee range, walk away from enemy warr, as he moves to you to disarm you bladestorm then move back into him and he'll disarm into it
poof you didn't get disarmed on warbreaker, and now it's off the table for 45 for both you and your partner
sharp meteor
yeah lot of stuff to pay attention to
leaden pasture
when you use spear with enemies inside do you just do a rotation or do you bladestorm the time they're in it
sharp meteor
bladestorm is to dodge cc
topaz ether
Buddy and I just hit 1950 as r Druid warrior. Just came back to the game from a pretty good break and unsure what the mmr is like atm. Is it much work to push 1950-2200 or about the same challenge just putting in the ques.
elder wigeon
rating has inflated a bit
leaden pasture
where can you find shielding words i only have mine at 171
sharp meteor
yes rating and especially 2v2 has inflated rather bigly
blessed holinka making sure to avoid rugging mmr again
i really do wish we got 2 seasons per tier if they're going to be this long though
plain wing
sounds like most of you are recommending Necro over Kyrian for 2s eh
warped warren
yeah
fast yacht
why is everyone necro now? Dont ppl just one shot the flag and make it useless immediately anyway?
is necro also better at 2v2 than kyrian?
plain wing
@warped warren even with a healer?
quick nimbus
What cov would you pick when playing with a disc priest? Venthyr for burst dmg and executioner? Or go fury for burst and pressure?
warped warren
<@219895166054432769> even with a healer?
yes
elder wigeon
where can you find shielding words i only have mine at 171
get 80 renown on one character and buy the 200 conduit package
elder wigeon
What cov would you pick when playing with a disc priest? Venthyr for burst dmg a...
neither, play kyrian or necrolord
fast yacht
flag isnt something thats targetable
sry i meant the necro warbanner
fierce elm
Ya its not targetable
fast yacht
i mean i can target it and one shot it immediately isnt it?
oh was that the normal pvptalent warbanner instead?
quick nimbus
yes. necro one is on your back.
leaden pasture
thanks resune 😄
fluid lichen
one shot the flag
u can one shot my flag anyday
eager oracle
Necro pvp puts more value into haste over crit correct? Is there a certain % I want or do I need to swap all of my crit/vers gear to vers/haste
warped warren
all of it
frigid loom
Both are fine, depends more on playstyle and legendary of choice
vital talon
quasi lotus
Always was 
dry trail
what do u think about necrolord 10% haste is enough and rest crit ?
raw summit
id want more so it feels smoother
plain wing
whats the reasoning of Necro>kyrian
is kyrian just super predictable and not much damage?
full quiver
necro is more fun
plain wing
cool beans
full quiver
diff comps do better w/ diff cov
plain wing
majority of healer comps in 2s do better with necro?
full quiver
you can play w/e cov in 2s lol
if you're double dps, necro is better, if you're healer dps it really doesn't matter. just play what you like
full quiver
got a 38k execute on my necro war the other day tho
plain wing
DAYUM
you just pop it with all your cd's?
and do you generally hold cd's until you can bait all their stuns/cc's etc? or just rip em at start
full quiver
i just full send it asap lol
eager oracle
Are there any glad warriors that stream 3s that are decent/helpful to watch
rough wharf
nl can either go crit or haste right?
main silo
gonna climb in 2's with rshaman, what covenant and legendary do you recommend ? for 2's only.
plain wing
potentially stupid question... but how do i k now what to make the kill target? is there a good general rule
eager oracle
I think a lot of it depends on comp and who has what defensives up if you’re tracking that
full quiver
just need to play more games and you'll figure it out
thick reef
im not so great, but if i need to call kill target in arena. i think like this: attack range so melee got to get us. so i can cleave with sweeping stike, warbreaker and bladestorm.
u can also think like, what can we kill the easiest. cloth got less armour then plates. so attack casters.
sharp meteor
usually spitball game plan with team as to who you'll be hitting before gates open then make sure they're on the same page as to cds and whatnot
like you'll disarm warbreaker, duel the doom winds etc
plain wing
ahh gotcha
thanks
i watch warrior pov videos and everything looks so ez
like fearing melee, and then bladestorming warriors to bait disarm etc
but in practice theres just so much going on.... idk how to track all my own stuff let alone to play it around the enemies cd's and gameplay
idk, just kinda overwhelming
steady mantle
hey guys, unhinged on wrist or hands for rbg?
plain wing
l;ike games just go so fast i feel like theres no time to do really anything
and properly set up/ execute strats
thick reef
its def fast paced ya
steady mantle
mh i think rbg doesnt play unhinged anymore if i look at the rankings?
thick reef
i like 2s more cuz its generally slower-paced
full quiver
when you play more it will feel slower. It just feels fast because you don't know what to expect and are reacting all the time
plain wing
Genuinely dont think itll ever be anything but that for me hahah
slow learner
we shall see
full quiver
watching high rated warrior streams helped me a lot
plain wing
yea i guess
i watch and understand it all
but then when i log in
none of it sticks hahah
would yall take a 252 pve chest from m+ weekly chest, or 233 pvp neck I can upgrade
crit/haste chest
crystal orchid
Hello, is there any way to find rankings and builds from previous seasons? Like Warcraftlogs but for pvp
thick reef
if priest has guardian angel up, its better to leave him alone til its over right? otherwise killing him will just activate guardian angel and he comes back to life.
sharp meteor
blizz also only lets people see what people log out with now
i mean guardian also increases healing taken
and i think the cd is partially refunded (bigly) if it doesn't proc
thick reef
so keep at him or leave him when guardian is up?
sharp meteor
lol idk it depends sometimes hit into it sometimes swap
usually ideally swap i think?
but like
idk
full quiver
proccing guardian is good
spice hornet
god those mm dmg buffs were so unncessary
MM hunters everywhere
(as I play my alts and help buddies get CR)
plain wing
finally hit 80 renown on NF... now to grind Kyrian and Necro to be viable in pvp.....
oof this grind is rough
before being able to play
plain wing
Yea thats quite a bit haha
thick reef
proccing guardian is good
why do u say that
sharp meteor
why do u say that
because you're already on the target and it puts it on a longer cd
if i send warbreaker and my shaman uses doom winds
plain wing
@sharp meteor thinking of starting with necr... but spear seems like such a sick ability idk
sharp meteor
if we can turn and hit somebody in a bad spot then maybe but usually power through it
sharp meteor
like if its on the mage but i still have bolt and rogue doesn't have trinket we'll swap and donk them
full quiver
if you're right next to someone else who is juicy target maybe swap
sharp meteor
whatever lets u stick more dam
we have killed a lot of people through just guardian
sharp meteor
killed a mage from full with alter and guardian in a bolt
caut too
the biggest dam
spice hornet
always q'ing into that jollytimes guy when I LFG and help random healers
sooo annoying
sharp meteor
haven't seen as much since like the venth hotfix
spice hornet
healer dies
100 to 0 me through d stance
very nice
they should just remove shadowy duel tbh
sharp meteor
so stuff goes through it as if the rogue was there u just can't target them directly
like if u chain harvest ont op of dueled player it'll go "downstairs" and hit them both
as will rally, freezing trap on the ground, etc
actually not sure about rally but a lot of heals work
spice hornet
yeah yeah I know I just killed his partner and he killed mine
so i just sit and auto-lose
sharp meteor
shambles
thick reef
wait, is Magnusz really Magnus Carlsen, the world chess champion?
sharp meteor
that sounds less likely than swifty-anvilmar being swifty
full quiver
who likes fighting those one shot duel build sub rogues
literally only rogue that kills me lol
always aggro send my trinket
then get 100-0d in duel through d stance
elder wigeon
wait, is Magnusz really Magnus Carlsen, the world chess champion?
Lol no
Carlsen wouldn’t waste his time with wow
thick reef
Ouch
plain wing
do u run enduring blow as Necrolord arms
in arena
and am i throwing if i just use the crit/haste belt i use for pve
sharp meteor
i think it's the best general pick for necro and nf, maybe venth
crit/haste one is fine even if vers is ideal
elder wigeon
I don't think it's that big of a deal to be missing that vers, just make up for it with gemming vers
elder wigeon
welcome to weakauras
everyone knows what you're doing with that addon
you have to outplay them and cover for yourself or have your team help you with CC
elder wigeon
can't get cc'd if you bladestorm
plain wing
and do i hold 2nd avatar for necro banner
elder wigeon
I cover every other warbreaker with a bladestorm
I don't hold avatar for banner intentionally, sometimes I have to get out of a root or a slow to maintain pressure/uptime
plain wing
i literally just throw out cd's and defensives and cc's with no thought
honestly think my brain doesnt know how to any other way hahaha
elder wigeon
sending everything at once always is how you get shut down very easy
plain wing
i just can get good at pvp after 8 years
elder wigeon
if they see avatar warbreaker sharpen banner, obviously they're going to do everything they can to make it so you can't do any damage at all
because if they do that, then you lost every CD you had
plain wing
my brain just doesnt work in a way where i can pre plan shit
elder wigeon
and because obviously if they get hit, it's gonna be real bad
plain wing
or think 3 moves ahead with cc's and cd's etc
elder wigeon
just split it up, you don't have to do everything at once
I never spear and warbreaker at the same time unless I know for a fact I can get it off
even against RMP, i never spear and warbreaker the same target at the same time
it's so easy for them to shut me down with a step disarm
plain wing
yea i do more 2s
and ijust press random buttons
with no though
like they always have an answer
and i just cant think ahead
or use my cc and cd's the best i can
its embarassing
elder wigeon
do you have omnibar?
plain wing
yea
elder wigeon
pay attention to it any time you want to deal damage
plain wing
Like ill just sit in a root
elder wigeon
"what do they have on cd that stops my damage"
plain wing
and have so much shit up
and i just wont use it
woint use disarm, banner etc
my brain is just slow in my old age maybe
elder wigeon
I don't think that's the issue
sharp meteor
u know arms wants to warbreaker
so u expecting it, and disarm it
don't fly by seat of pants, heat of the moment, etc
have a plan
plain wing
hard to when i dont know what im doing haha
elder wigeon
something you need to work on, it's very important to know what the enemy needs to do in order to deal damage, like what their go looks like, and have an idea of how to stop it
sharp meteor
it's especially scripted in 2s like war presses conq banner avatar warbreaker then stuns somebody
elder wigeon
it's a universal problem regardless of expansion, it's just more important now than ever because the damage is so high in this meta
plain wing
12 years and I never learn anything haha
sharp meteor
u trinket disarm parry/evasion or w/e
plain wing
i just throw my shit out without a second thought
sharp meteor
yeah that's most people
elder wigeon
12 years of not actively trying to improve
sharp meteor
need to sit down and pay attention to stuff
i did the same thing when i only did random bgs
plain wing
so how do you switch mindset
i genuinely cant think mid fight in arena
so much going on
so i just hit random shit
elder wigeon
it took me a few months of fucking a lot of stuff up with the intention of learning and I went from being a 2100 warrior to a 2800+ multi glad
sharp meteor
ye
once u have the script
it becomes a lot easier
with that framework
can kind of take it and apply it to most other specs/comps too
plain wing
like it just feels like i can queue all i want
and i never take anything away or learn from games
theyre all just whirlwinds of cluster fuck haha
plain wing
maybe kyrian would be easier for me
for smooth brain learning
just really weird how i cant learn pvp... learn from matches etc
just a cluster
sharp meteor
usually it's just spitballing stuff like hm maybe i should've parried immediately here that's all their damage
or whoops didn't disarm the warbreaker immediately while being not cc'd
obviously spec knowledge goes a long way but doesn't take too long to get an idea of how most specs do their dmg
u will get cheesed from time to time but that's w/e
plain wing
like i just lost a game to hunter warrior
and its hard to know what i could've done differently
when i dont know when theyre using abilities
and i just throw shit out randomly
so its like.... I cant be like "i shouldve done this" or "i shouldnt have done this"
cuz i dont know what happened
sharp meteor
that's where recording stuff comes in handy
plain wing
again, maybe just gonna give up on pvp cuz my brain doesnt seem to work that way.
sharp meteor
and why arms/healer just playing slow games is nice for learning
as you get like 3-5 minute matches usually
it's mostly just having an idea of where cds are going and what are being traded
plain wing
yea idk
really disheartened
cant pay attention to when other warriors pop warbraker on me
when im so focused on my own cd's and timers
i might as well be hitting a target dummy
sharp meteor
like i said comes with games played
plain wing
Ill keep trying. But i can play thousands of games and nothing changes
sharp meteor
well need to actively be trying tbut
plain wing
cuz i dont have any idea whats hhappening etc
thanks for the tips tho
Like my 1000th game will be the same as my 1st game
I dont learn or improve or adjust
dont think ive ever actually used a cc or defensive when im supposed to
I just see myself taking damage so ill throw it out
rather than trying to shut the damage down
sharp meteor
hm that's unfortunate
plain wing
too much going on
necro seems wayyy easier to shut down
yea im done. Thanks for the tips. although id love to pvp, im obfviuosly not good enough. Sticking to pve.
Cheers, all. Ty for ongoing tips.
i just play the same against every comp, no improvement.
sharp meteor
Hm, fair enough. Good hunting.
thick reef
u need to set ur attitude straight first of all. I used to think like you. But I kept on playing and learning.
first of all, none of us are playing perfectly. Not even r1 glads like Magnuz/Mud etc If you watch their vod and analyze play by play, even they make mistakes
i saw Mag fat-fingered his trinket the other day on stream
we all human
everyone, from challenger to glads, are constantly learning and improving.
sharp meteor
yeah at the end of the day it's about being as consistent as you can
thick reef
ya and at the end of day, i think we all more or less end up in the CR/MMR we deserve to be, until we improve and get to a higher mmr/cr.
sharp meteor
i get wins vs much better teams but over the course of the season they will likely end higher because they're able to more consistently pull out wins
elder wigeon
necro seems wayyy easier to shut down
it's not, kyrian is easier to shut down than necro banner
sharp meteor
unleash shield
also 95% of priests grip their lock on storm bolt
and gate also breaks the tether
sharp meteor
issue with bm is that u never learn
i guess potentially same with any spec but particularly bm
rough wharf
I lost too much against bm + healer today in 2s
How is the double charge Talent against them? I feel like storm bolt just too good to give up but I can’t catch them consistently enough while they eat my face
elder wigeon
I save globals for hamstring when I know they wanna clear snares
if you're kyrian, save spear for after the feign
sharp meteor
yeah also they don't take dam for a sec after feigning as well so don't rush to dump an execute proc overpower or mortal strike into them
elder wigeon
1.5 seconds, yeah
sharp meteor
their pets can also get blown up in a spear if u go in with sweeping ya
actually had a game vs jungle the other day where we deleted his pets through exhil and mend twice
and yeah 1.5s of a giant shield
warm quiver
Yea just save charge for his disengage then immediately hamstring again.
elder wigeon
if you're fast you can howl the disengage
dawn hill
Is HM Tauren any good for Horde PvP? I’m tired of logging in and seeing all Orcs on my screen 😂
sharp meteor
vers dmg reduction on hit and more mobility albeit somewhat clunky mobility yeah it's fine/good
i know a guy who played nf mag'har to like 2800
and there's a panda at 3200
dawn hill
It’s kinda fun to racial charge and then charge back into people lol
sharp meteor
yeah for sure
dawn hill
I know Tauren stun is also nice
plain wing
im gonna plow my head through a fucking wal
WHY THE FUCK CANT I GET BETTER AT PVP
end rant.
stuck at ddogshit 1450 mmr
like holy fuck.... i just treat every game as a target fucking dummy.
fierce elm
Rome wasnt built in a day my mans
thick reef
should i kill the MW's statue?
full quiver
No but second gsme starts you should bee line it to him, leap storm bolt him on his prot if you can, and then avatar warbringer and blow him up
spice hornet
aaa i really cant stand fighting rmx
plain wing
my blood pressure these days.
cant wait till my sub runs out
prolly healthy
fucking hell idk how you guys do it.
nimble jasper
Gotta put the games in
and learn from where you fucked up
Of course, you have to take getting meme oneshot occasionally as just part of the shadowlands pvp experience.
@plain wing I assume you're probably also undergeared
which doesnt help
plain wing
one shot by another warrior
bladestorm into eachother
sickkkk
yea i tip my hats to you that can actually plan shit and react to enemy cd's and shit.... buit i just cant.... I just do the same shit every game
and never learn
cheers
imma gonna go fucking fist myself and smash my hjead against a wall
FUCK THIS
SO FUCKING INFURAITNIG
nimble jasper
Idk you're getting mad too easily
its prob just you're dying fast not a true "oneshot" persay
plain wing
fucking hutners every game.
cant learn from this shit
when i just die
every game. Doing the same shit every game.
Fucking pathetic
idk how people can actually learn from playing and managing cd's around their opponents
Like.
FUCXK
nimble jasper
dunno how geared are you
nimble jasper
if your healer gets trapped dont run headfirst behind a pillar
plain wing
1500 players are asolute dogshit
what does that say about me
I cant keep track of all this shit
nimble jasper
just have to learn how the script goes
Hunter intim stuns your healer--->prob going for trap off
plain wing
cant learn that
when i dont even realizing its happennig
how the hell am is upposed to notice that when im just trying to survive
and tunnel
nimble jasper
I mean there's your problem first
tunnelvisioning
get squadov and record your games 🤷
plain wing
ONE SHOT BY RET ARMS
FUCK GAME
REALLY FUN GAME
REALLY LVOE THIS ALL NIGHT LONG
JUST SOOO OMUICH FUCKING FUN
SO MUCH FUCKNIG LEARNING;.
nimble jasper
if you get hoj'ed
plain wing
litearlly fuck it.
nimble jasper
and ret has wings up
you have to trinket def
or healer has to trade
you cant facetank wings
plain wing
LOVE losing to undergeared ret and arms in 1500 2s
IVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME FOR 12 YEAR SIM SO FUCKING GOOD BOIS
IM SO FUCKING ENJOYING THIS
im gonna run through a fucking weall and break my fucking hand on my desk
nimble jasper
how geared are you even
plain wing
fuck pvp idk why im still trying
it doesnt matter
im losing to even less geared people in this shitty rating
nimble jasper
Seriously if ret commits wings and a full hoj while warrior blows his load too
plain wing
fucking stupid
nimble jasper
you need to respond
plain wing
im over pvp man
nimble jasper
either healer dispels hoj or you trinket fear them
sharp meteor
nimble jasper
From my experience helping friends at low mmr
people just
dont press cds
until its too late
plain wing
Im feeding 1400 players.
thats me.
12 years later.
I cant do shit
im fucknig etrible
i dont learn
nimble jasper
are you like
plain wing
no matter what i do
nimble jasper
full geared or something
plain wing
no im 230
but im fighting less geared people.
and i just throw out my cd's
wdq
and im dogshit
oh let me just bladestorm
nimble jasper
yeah you need to trade proper
plain wing
let me just stun this warrior who is doing no damage
nimble jasper
you cannot sit a full hoj while ret has wings rolling
plain wing
so then i dont have stun for ret
nimble jasper
unless he cant connect to you
quasi lotus
Have you tried not doing all the things that make you angry?
nimble jasper
during the hoj
plain wing
@quasi lotus like playing arena whatsoever
I wanna be good at it
but its obvious im just dogshit
I dont learn anything from a match
other than
Oh i lost
oh i won
i do the same shit.
fucking bots could kill me
already brok emy fucking keyboard
and my fucking knuckle through a hole in the wall on my left
LIKE FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME
CANT DO SHIT
sharp meteor
bro
just go hit npcs until you know how to do pve dam
then bgs so they move around and fight back
fierce elm
lmao
warped warren
is kinda troll
link bench (cr)
nimble jasper
your mother so 200 kilos
nimble jasper
I mean...
you can make a case for it vs cleaves maybe without unhinged
otherwise meh
sharp meteor
honestly tho how do some people get so upset that they break their wall or mouse
nimble jasper
iunno
sharp meteor
my head doesn't break that hard queuing into surv/rdruid as assa
nimble jasper
getting oneshot is part of SL pvp
sharp meteor
sometimes you're just the flea that gladiator gigachad-tichondrius executes for 45k in the first 8 seconds of the match
warped warren
honestly tho how do some people get so upset that they break their wall or mouse
people have issues
quasi lotus
sometimes you're just the flea that gladiator gigachad-tichondrius executes for ...
Just another highlight on a MUD video 
sharp meteor
into the montage they go
nimble jasper
Honestly bm healer teams in 2s
I usually preferred going healer
unless shit's changed last few months
sharp meteor
my healer one day was like hey buddy wanna see my league highlight reel
warped warren
bm is the easiest spec of the 3 to face rn
sharp meteor
and it's him getting 2-hit by chally players
nimble jasper
most of the healers who q with bm hunters in 2s are umm
questionable
to put it nicely
warped warren
id take bm/rd over sv any day of the week
nimble jasper
dude
sharp meteor
queuing into r1 surv with rdruid makes me wanna brain myself
nimble jasper
i remember q'ing assa rsham week 1 of the season
into bm hpriest
most free win ever
warped warren
tjey are questionable because they are getting hardcarried by a hunter pressing cobra shot lmao
nimble jasper
legit just ran the priest down with 7 sec kidney and dwayne
sharp meteor
yeah assa/rsham feelin super good
nimble jasper
surv was the true /wrist matchup as most melee
esp since most hunters that play surv were usually at least somewhat decent at their class
sharp meteor
unlike all the sped bm hunters who can't even sac or freedom their partners lmaoo
quasi lotus
Don't ask a hunter to use freedom AND press kill shot when it procs
Wtf they can't process so many things at once
nimble jasper
i q’ed monk cuz i wanted the white coloring of the pvp 1h
was much disappoint to find out the 2.1 color isnt even white
sharp meteor
which one
oh reminds me i need caster dagger and like the gun and 2 of the 2hs
so much honor arghgghhgh
sharp meteor
oh right
nimble jasper
fuck blizzard for making honor upgrades so much
sharp meteor
yeah it doesn't really look like the others
also the staff from kt sheathes on ur back, the agi crit one xd
like upside down
xd
nimble jasper
“yeah just grind 10k honor to upgrade one piece”
sharp meteor
like i'll do it but i know most people won't LMAO
costs so much if u don't queue early
at least it's reasonable with the weekly vault piece being upgraded
coming in late, alts and secondary sets of gear are murder tho
sharp meteor
yeah week 1 wep op
sharp meteor
of elite stuff? likely gone forever
nimble jasper
still find it stupid they added elite variants to every cov’s set of weps in s1
sharp meteor
because i have mythic sire 2h despite not killing him
nimble jasper
matches the korthia set
sharp meteor
yeah no mention of elite tints either season and had a hard time figuring it out in s1
because 4 covs
nimble jasper
maybe honestly
sharp meteor
my head is gonna break if i missed some sick black/red tint of a wep
nimble jasper
as certain classes
tawny elm
was just casually farming conquest on my warrior in rbgs and ended up at 1670 rating. should i join new rbg groups at that rating or doesn't it matter which rating other have? (really hard to find anything besides the 0 rating groups)
sharp meteor
if u wanna climb probs go for the 1700-2000 groups with voice that sit there and make a decent comp
then try to network a bit to get regular groups so u don't wait as much
tawny elm
thing is that the more organized groups seems to want a warrior as target caller and i'm not near experienced enough for that :/
tawny elm
🙂
sharp meteor
just identify who is in a bad spot and/or doesn't have defensives
most important thing is just everybody being kind of on the same page
tawny elm
and then some fast switching if the other team notice who is targeted i guess?
warped warren
still find it stupid they added elite variants to every cov’s set of weps in s1
no elite tints in s1
sharp meteor
and then some fast switching if the other team notice who is targeted i guess?
depends
leaden pasture
hi im looking at the wowhead pvp arms guide and its saying to equip a gear set and shield block do people really do this because when im targeted all i do is ignore pain and defensive stance
sharp meteor
if there's nothing important to reflect u can also use that to reduce magic dam like dots or stuff that doesn't rip it off like ret damage
oh and can safeguard teammates if there's nothing physical to intervene and you don't need it for mobility
like if you're training a spriest and want to reduce magic dam taken by fellow melee
leaden pasture
sharp meteor
but yeah the sword and board swap just inefficient imo haven't queued into another warrior doing it yet
leaden pasture
yea same
sharp meteor
like it oculd be good if reasonably tuned and idk if it is
but just didn't seem worth to me
oh and duel is another rly good talen tthat i think more people should sometimes take
leaden pasture
i feel like a necrolord and kyrian are better in terms of survival because when your venthyr you always dont have rage for ignore pain because you accidnetly put it on condemn
sharp meteor
can completely shut down goes on a relatively short cd
leaden pasture
but when im venthyr ill do more damage so i'm very confused
sharp meteor
ya part of why ip is so strong i sbecause most setups for arms dont need much rage to fucntion
it's like mortal strike, hamstring, overpower and whatnot are cheap or free
leaden pasture
yea
leaden pasture
i know exactly what your saying you have a lot of rage with necrolord and kyrian so as you climb the enemy players have duelist and rival gear they will smash you if your venthry
and u can always ignore pain with kyrian and necrolord
sharp meteor
yeah have to be careful with the rage at times
leaden pasture
im prob going to go either necrolord or kyrian
sharp meteor
they both feel pretty good, can kind of swap around depending on how you feel and what you're queuing with
fierce elm
Weapon swapping is mad inefficient
sharp meteor
ye feels like
leaden pasture
yea i dont know either i think its from this dude joe fernandes something something
sharp meteor
ya he good but he doesn't do it
leaden pasture
oh gotcha
sharp meteor
like i saw that we were getting those abilities back and im like dang sword and board lets go and i wrote up the old swap macro sthen tried it and it felt awful
leaden pasture
yea for sure
do any of you get sad when u tank rating i think its a mind game you just gotta keep going and get over it i think i should tell my self that sometimes u climb and then u fall and that sucks but gotta keep going it will be ok
lol
at least ull learn something new
sharp meteor
leaden pasture
nice
sharp meteor
fluid lichen
do any of you get sad when u tank rating i think its a mind game you just gotta ...
no im good so my rating only goes up
leaden pasture
lol nice
sharp meteor
that losses continued until 2550 and am now back at 2680 with 2800 mmr
easy come easy go
fierce elm
@fluid lichen you have a 40% winrate
fluid lichen
<@136807032656363520> you have a 40% winrate
not on my war noob
fierce elm
30% winrate*
fluid lichen
literally 0 losses
sharp meteor
legendary
i was trying to figure out last season why nobody would take my rat mage then noticed she was like 15-242 from tanking a friend so he could easily sell some carries
quite possibly the most scuffed wr on ladder at the time
warped warren
LMAO
graceful quarry
*lmeow
rough wharf
how good is avoidance in pvp? i have the option between a mastery chest with avoidance or a haste chest
torn valve
tertiary stats from gear do not work in rated pvp
rough wharf
ah didnt know that thanks!
frigid loom
tertiary stats from gear do not work in rated pvp
Unless its from enchants and gems. Or was that implied by tertiary?
torn valve
Gems and enchants do i.e. cloak speed enchants, speed gems. Should've specified I mean tertiary stara found on items
sharp meteor
https://clips.twitch.tv/AuspiciousAgileFishDeIlluminati-nlIRKE_1lLBxzg4g?tt_cont...
o funny my last match was vs lyrics
Elite : Season 1
Earn 2400 arena rating during the Shadowlands season 1.
that feel when no prot teammate i guess
quaint hornet
for 2s with a healer, i noticed more warrs are necro now, im starting to gear mine up, should i go necro or kyrian
raw summit
since you can get 40 renown for free
try em out
and whatever you enjoy more you craft the leggo for
quaint hornet
going to go necro, i think ill like it better, do people normally macro conq banner with avatar or should i keep separate bc of the root break
raw summit
seperate generally better
sharp meteor
u always bind things like this separately
if u wanna bind together fine but also have them bound independently
ava also off gcd whereas conq isn't
quaint hornet
good point, thank you=p ive been grinding on my main and sending boxes over but just havent gotten a wep so far
sharp meteor
i sent like 20 boxes to my rogue hoping for crit or mastery gear for sub
and literally every piece has been haste
except for a mastery neck that i already bought
crude sundial
Do you guys know if I keep my pvp transmog sets(not elite ones, just regular gladiator sets) if I do a faction change?
sharp meteor
uh a few old faction ones might swap colors like prideful
crude sundial
Yeah that's what I meant
So I keep em but a different recolor according to the faction?
sharp meteor
maybe like ferocious or w/e the legion season was? maybe?
ye
should translate over
plain wing
Ive simmered down a bit. Sorry about that all.
if i decide to step back into arena, do you guys have any tips on going against rets or warriors? Like how to open on them - when to use disarm etc
fierce elm
Disarm doesnt do shit versus ret
Disarm warbreaker on warrior
get in dstance and spell reflect IP spam when ret goes
plain wing
Like if i get in and the enemy warrior immediately disarms me
whats the best thing to do
When I see ret pops cd's, whats the best defensive game plan?
Save stun/ fear for him?
plain wing
so best option is to get out of melee?
so hold cd's for after the ret goes?
Is that generally what you want to do on goes from enemy dps? Run/ LoS?
and then save your go for after or before?
raw summit
when you use your go i cant tell you
however there is a bunch of rets that use bubble once ccd on their go so they might be a better target after
plain wing
Ok
Do most warriors try to get out of range/LoS/run when enemy teams go?
or just stay there and try to tank them with your face via defensives
low gulch
sharp meteor
i hate rmp so much it's unreal
low gulch
Jungle BM and RMP players
full quiver
Like if i get in and the enemy warrior immediately disarms me
that's really good because it means they don't have disarm for your go
and means they're retarded
sharp meteor
ya being disarmed on nothing is ideal
like generally you're sneding your cds early and they'll counter them in some way hopefully poorly macro-wise
sometimes you'll just do enough damage before they're back up that they burn cds
example being disarm to stop dam so they then don't have it for your next warbreaker
$$
spice hornet
this iteration of rmp is really disgusting man
thick reef
trying 2v2 with EM. is it spear first, then WB, then BS to protect from CC/Disarm, then cancel and pump? or is it WB-BS, cancel, Spear, pump?
sharp meteor
idk if possible i usually bolt into warbreaker into spear
civic cloak
^ that
sharp meteor
keep in mind priests can life grip teammates out before spear lands if they aren't crossed tho
like there's always externals if you don't cross cc but grip can completely negate the spear as it does have a travel time and 99% of warrs gonna try to send it during that initial bolt
elder wigeon
I spear without bolting for that reason
sharp meteor
have had success both yolo spearing
and bolting then waiting for grip then spearing next
yeah
sometimes mw can go for para to stop the priest
druid feels like inting usually
raw summit
have had success both yolo spearing
Revo spears LOL
sharp meteor
yeet
2500 aff lock kept trinketing my bolt in the last second to port the spear
tilted me into another dimension
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
like 0.5s on bolt i fling the spear he trinket ports
raw summit
Ive had spears get stuck on Tigers peak
sharp meteor
or trinket fox
sharp meteor
i spear all 3 players of an rmp
full quiver
or when your spear hits some puddle onthe ground, which flips it sideways, and makes it do nothing
raw summit
I just tilt whenever i see the stupid double MM comp
full quiver
lol
raw summit
They always are farming saddles
full quiver
they're cheaters half the time too
using the stupid keyclone dual box
so they open perfectly w/ double tap aim shots same time
raw summit
I always get pelted while in a binding
raw summit
so they open perfectly w/ double tap aim shots same time
Literally the same gear name guild and everything
So fucking annoying
thick reef
idk if possible i usually bolt into warbreaker into spear
What about bs?
sharp meteor
usually they move to disarm after warbreaker, sometimes spear
so just whenever to dodge it
and like i said before usually u can move away after sending wb/spear and they'll move towards you mashing disarm
then you move back in and bladestorm
spice hornet
is it even possible to beat NL DH/Rdruid high rated 2s as warr/healer? you go DH, he takes too long to kill with blur/druid cds roots clones etc. all while being double cleaved. You go healer but the DH can kill your healer faster.
sharp meteor
idk i usually only play 2s to duelist
on one hand it might be cool if they added incentives to 2s
but on the other 2s kind of tedious
elder wigeon
I haven’t encountered any dh’s lately and thankful of that
plain wing
@full quiver and i still lost - says a lot about me
full quiver
i mean if you're tilting that bad you just shouldn't do pvp lol
should only do it if you're having fun
plain wing
@sharp meteor so like in the case where I got disarmed early.... do i just run away? And when Ret pops his load do I run away and try to LoS/ get out of range? What do you usually do
full quiver
ret pops wings, you go d stance pop parry
raw summit
You have it back faster 
sharp meteor
dstance, ignore pain, reflect or something usually
like uh as for disarm you just kind of sit there
maybe pierce or disarm their dam if applicable
potentially fear, depends
plain wing
so dont run away, just pop personal? Are there any situations where instead of using a cd usage, you just run away?
raw summit
maybe pierce or disarm their dam if applicable
You stare at them angrily
sharp meteor
sometimes it's good to just run or line yeah
like if i mount or walk in and a wizard uses everything i just walk back to the pillar
sharp meteor
i mean if a warr disarms you in the opener i usually just stand there
then disarm their warbreaker
plain wing
so many situations where its just the beginning of the game, 2 melee sit on me and I explode
sharp meteor
then warbreaker their face because they have no disarm
plain wing
do you stun before you warbreaker?
full quiver
you are way over thinking this man
just click all your damage buttons
and your defensives
fierce elm
Follow the flowchart - Go in - Hamstring - MS - pop everything - go ham
They do big damage cooldowns - respond with defensives
plain wing
Ok
I just run into a situation where I just get stunned in middle of cd;s
or whatever
then can't do anything
fierce elm
that is what happens
At your MMR you can also just pop everything and bladestorm and they will 100% toss a cc onto it like dumbos
then cancel bladestorm and go ham
full quiver
just get high before you play next time or something so you relax lol
plain wing
Maybe with rets I'll just try to make them miss their Final Verdict or whatever
cuz I just insta die to double damage comps with a ret
like nothing I can do when my healer is perma cc'd and im getting trained by openers
fierce elm
how is your healer perma-ccd
full quiver
lol
plain wing
idk
full quiver
what 1400 game are you playing where healer is perma cc'd and you're tanking unpeelable damage
are you playing 2s or 3s
plain wing
Yea so i guess a good rule is if my healer is cc'd and they're popping cd's
I try to run away
2s
fierce elm
oir just respond with your own cds
full quiver
yeah you're just not pressing shit right
fierce elm
you have like 10 defensives my mans
full quiver
you shouldn't lose to ret in 2s
raw summit
Rally as a personal 
plain wing
@full quiver Im trying man.... Like ill fear the ret, he bubbles then I cant do shit to him
full quiver
charge ret, storm bolt, war breaker, avatar, blade storm
when they wiff hoj
take off bladestorm and then if they wings pop parry
fierce elm
Or just charge stomr bolt - wb - ava - spell reflect kekw
full quiver
they won't hoj before they use some spenders prob
plain wing
also dealing with a rogue or warrior that is hitting my face too tho
full quiver
rogues are free wins in 2s for war once you start blade storming and intervening right
plain wing
or some healer