Why not an owl riding bron
#pvp
sharp meteor
thick reef
Sure
anything but the fucking owl
everything about Kyrian is cool
except for the owl
frank knoll
Thic Greek women with battlemechs what’s not to love
glass orchid
Thorns got fixed
Fml
No more hitting thorns’d targets while laughing at the oppponent resto Druid for wasting a global
thick reef
how good is the speed gem
sharp meteor
not remarkable
but getting in range to kick, out of los, into los, etc, a fraction of a second quicker is probably more value than a tiny fraction of a percent of dam gains
there's also uptime, like catching up with somebody and being able to auto and hit them again in general
warped warren
80% of the ppl i play with try to stack with me on streak 
wheat jay
80% of the ppl i play with try to stack with me on streak <:medge:86946864474320...
Its cold when dk is around
Gotta stick close together to stay warm
proven maple
Wait thorns is going to deal more damage now?
I’m a big violater of hitting into thorns
warped warren
it had a max range til now
so if the druid applied it on a friendly it wouldnt do anything unless he was close by
wanton patio
I would ask which kind of trinket you’ll recommend for arms warrior in pvp / arena or rbgs? Likely a returning player here with a behind knowledge in pvp system in this tier.
elder wigeon
badge and insignia are fine for damage, one or the other more preferable depending on build and covenant, but you should always play medallion as orc and almost all of the time you play relent as human
elder wigeon
what covenant are you and what build are you trying to go for?
you can play any stat build and find massive success
wanton patio
Got all capped so I’ll free swapping 😅
Necrolord dobut be good start in learning I guess
elder wigeon
generally speaking most kyrian warriors go for max crit then haste then mastery
most necrolord warriors go for a mix of haste/crit
wanton patio
Yes. Got spear legendary crafted
elder wigeon
some are all haste some are all crit, just depends on preference and what legendary you tend to use mostly
wanton patio
I think I going be 15 % -20 % haste then all in Vers - > crit
Got 16 % vers by PvE rings
elder wigeon
I mean you always want max vers, don't gem or enchant for other stats
fully gemmed and enchanted, you should be at ~38%
wanton patio
Ok! Have farm cq points
Was focused in pve with hitting 2k raider io which I already did Tuesday so now I going farm pvp vendor 😂
elder wigeon
idk anything about pve anymore, just pvp
wicked magnet
no one seems to talk about it but isnt crit the friendlier stat? the slower you are, the more trouble you have staying on someone doesnt crit pull ahead of haste by a decent margin?
fickle forge
Haste is more forgiving because you don't lock yourself out for as long
Frankly you can build any of the 3 stats and be completely fine
You're a warrior, anything works
tawny elm
Weird. Im doing the observing random epic bg but I don’t get any honor 😦
Towards the quest
wheat jay
Buy honor items and spend
scarlet barn
Buy tmog
tawny elm
Don’t I need marks for those?
I’m lost in all the different currencies blizzard throws at us 🙂
sharp meteor
2k honor = 5 marks
pallid ibex
Hi all, there is a pvp weapon that match the elite set, does anyone knows how to unlock it ? Looks like jaithys, the one at the store looks like the conquest point set (dark silver and purple) but there is also the shiny silver one. Don’t know how to get that one
sharp meteor
Upgrade the weapon itself to Duelist quality after reaching 2100 rating
pallid ibex
I see. So I have to do that for the shield/1 hand sword as well if I want those mog I guess
sharp meteor
Can also get it out of your duelist+ vault.
Yep. Lot of honor.
Can also do this to access more options
Like caster staff on Warrior
Only thing you can't get is the warglaive which requires a DH
pallid ibex
I see. I miss 3k honor to get the mog then. What would be the fastest way to get honor ?
sharp meteor
Daily wins in the various brackets.
Or waiting until skirm or bg week
then grinding
raw summit
Random arenas 
sharp meteor
Yeah, sure.
raw summit
Can also do this to access more options
👀 More mog ty for the hint
sharp meteor
Offspec vault is another idea, as it could mean a shield or 1h
raw summit
Once i have full conq gear maybe
But itll probably never happen since im trying to get jaithys HC since like a mont
hybrid solstice
which nameplate addons do you guys use for arena?
tawny elm
my god the horde bfa sets are horrible compared to alliance's
wheat jay
Yep
sharp meteor
Nope.
sharp meteor
i dislike it on warrior
elder raven
I haven't tried it on my warrior but can't imagine it feels that nice to press as a warrior tbh.
echo wave
it isn't really, outside some triple shackle plays it's not particularly worth it
raw summit
so for trinkets we'd use the standard one and then HP one?
or do any of you run a passive one?
full quiver
Badge and medallion
sharp meteor
i like insignia and badge
elder raven
Does unhinged focus players or will it hit pets?
lucid walrus
doesn’t focus anything. it’s random
sharp meteor
rng hits whatever's in the bs
also consumes modifiers
so if u have overpower stacks the unhinged ms will eat it and do more damge
similar with sharpen
elder raven
ty 👍
thick reef
what gems do i put in my gear
barren yoke
Should I use EB instead of EM for Hunters (and/or other classes that can get out of spear easily)?
elder wigeon
Should I use EB instead of EM for Hunters (and/or other classes that can get out...
i like to use spear on other targets if that's the case but if you want, you want you can use eb instead
elder wigeon
what gems do i put in my gear
speed gems/vers
thick reef
there should be a way to turn conquest into honor
sharp meteor
that'd be quite swell
fringe moat
Best soulbind for kyrian?
sharp meteor
they all good
nocturne osprey
what do people use to track when a teammate used a defensive?
ideally i'd have some kind of icon indicating my shaman used wall or druid used bark or something
maybe over their party frame
elder wigeon
omnicd
nocturne osprey
omnicd would work well if it rearranged spells as they are used
maybe it's an option, is it?
raw summit
Big debuffs with teamates plates on
drifting vector
Anyone know warri streamer that has high rated 3s content available (twitch vod) playing melee cleave? Prefer war/dh but I guess that's hard to find 😄
elder wigeon
not a very common comp right now, I don't see it at all, smexxin in general is a very good warrior to watch
just a great player to watch, really
fickle forge
Probably easier to find a DH streamer that plays with a warr
drifting vector
Yeah I'm monitoring mvq and tren but nothing available to watch right now 😦
I always end up playing war/dh.. i rerolled from dh to war 😄 But we made it to 2387 cr so far with that comp
grand scaffold
is enduring blow good for venth
i dont have the gold for a 262 ring for exploiter its 200k -_-
elder raven
Enduring Blow on helmet is better than belt right?
Because you get more primary stat.
grand scaffold
yea
elder raven
i dont have the gold for a 262 ring for exploiter its 200k -_-
What server are you on? 200k
sharp meteor
jhahhahahaaa 200k for a leggo lmao
quasi lotus
Imagine not having 200k SMH
sharp meteor
psure im just using a shitty 210 one on a few chars because i refuse to pay 50k for a 1-2% dmg increase
elder raven
just buy wow token kekw
grand scaffold
was legit 75k earlier
grand scaffold
the item
elder raven
yeah 200k seems kind of nuts
sharp meteor
probably yeah
sharp meteor
crit exploiter playstyle is cringe just go necrolord at that point
grand scaffold
Just grab exploiter on the other slot kek
go exploiter on shoulder?
near inlet
btw is mastery or haste better as a 3rd stat for venth
Give up fury warrior?
grand scaffold
i still play it
just not in pvp
lol
i got 2100 playing fury necro
then started playing arms to get 2200
elder raven
i got 2100 playing fury necro
Is crit good for fury pvp? Because I don't have a ton of haste since I'm stacking crit for arms but fury sounds fun to try
scarlet barn
Not really great for fury
Haste /versa with some mix of mastery
will serve you much better than crit
Crit has very little synergy for Fury
grand scaffold
Is crit good for fury pvp? Because I don't have a ton of haste since I'm stackin...
crit is trash
ive played it
kinda makes fury feel as slow as arms
but more slow
imo go vers haste then mastery then crit
crit not good for it
you already have recklessnesss
for your lego
go signet or spear BOTH with haste vers
by spear i mean elysian might
for your covs
probably play night fae
its really strong
unless you have a class that benefits from mastery heavily
then go necro
play siegebreaker for night fae 1 shot
reckless abandon for a proper build
and anger management for necro
so it line up with banner
warped warren
quasi lotus
don't be a fool
Survival hunter main trying to keep the secret of bloodrage root breaks hidden
Up the fury
wheat jay
Survival hunter main trying to keep the secret of bloodrage root breaks hidden
ye, so scared of fury
yeee
that unhealable dmg\
and that burst
and that damage
and that burst
oh wait
that's arms
quasi lotus
*unhealable healing
wheat jay
*unhealable healing
that's resto druid
sharp meteor
i remember when fury was good for a few minutes in bfa
actually having a bit of self sustain was neato
scarlet barn
Season 1 mostly
sharp meteor
yeah fury/prot was really obnoxious
wheat jay
i dunno
i'd say fury is like bm
too easy and too zug zug to be in meta
unfortunately bm is
fury luckily is not 🙂
hasty dome
$pb @fickle jackal
unkempt egretBOT
Done.
raw summit
Tyvm
tribal holly
what is wrong with these people
merry ivy
actual psycho
warped warren
madman
frank knoll
Kek
sharp meteor
seriously tho why tweak that and not ww
thick reef
hey any of u guys know a decent soulbind tree for mika and maybe kliea if i ever fight assas rogues
like what a good row of conduints look like
sharp meteor
hm lemme swap back to kyrian rq
thick reef
thx bro back to kyrian atm for a certain comp
sharp meteor
I need to try kleia some time
ember rose
Is the final right row ever worth?
thick reef
yeah its good against assas/feral
sharp meteor
i dislike how reactive works
and i was thinking kleia mostly for just sustained damage
without putting my spear on a weird cd
because i usually queue with a shaman
and desyncing it with doom winds can feel scuffed
thick reef
yea it can mess it up
frank knoll
seriously tho why tweak that and not ww
Ya ww gets away with murder
frank knoll
Yeah got hit with a 36k rsk the other day
I messaged him and asked how he did it and he was like /shrug
sharp meteor
ya was helping friend get rival and executed some mage for like 40k and he told me to fuck off
pale minnow
ya was helping friend get rival and executed some mage for like 40k and he told ...
And did you fuck off?
pale minnow
Every mage deserves the same fate
wheat jay
necro/kyrian
sacred pelican
Harder setup 40k execute or 40k deathbolt from aff lock?
wheat jay
your choice really
scarlet barn
Harder setup 40k execute or 40k deathbolt from aff lock?
This is bait
wheat jay
big bait
sacred pelican
Lol had someone argue lock setup was easier
sacred pelican
Deathbolt neutered by a dispel though
sacred pelican
No, no need to go further. In my experience deathbolt seems easier to counter but against good players they all find a way
scarlet barn
All righty
sacred pelican
My preference would be for neither to hit for 40k
wheat jay
My preference would be for neither to hit for 40k
We can agree on that one :)
scarlet barn
Big true
sacred pelican
Are there that many clips? Only clips I’ve seen tend to max out around 2.2’ish but I don’t look for them. Didn’t think aff had that much representation above 2.5
sacred pelican
Is it mostly with a sp? Or another comp?
proven pine
just leaving this here carry on folks
sacred pelican
Lol does it change the answer of the question either way? And I’d rather you clip the conversation from Trille’s discord if you’re going to clip
mystic barn
it’s harder to setup a 40k obliterate than either of those
wheat jay
it’s harder to setup a 40k obliterate than either of those
Ye cuz you can't setup a group with dk
Cuz noone wants to play with them
/Spit
mystic barn
Set me up with ur mom
wheat jay
She said she doesn't date emo dk players
sharp meteor
Harder setup 40k execute or 40k deathbolt from aff lock?
much easier to setup a huge execute
issue is you have no way of guaranteeing it'll crit
wheat jay
mystic barn
ya 40k execute is like 2 buttons
sacred pelican
Seems more straightforward to me, but I play my lock more than my warrior and neither are my main.
sharp meteor
like a fully primed execute proc with sharpen to follow it up
will heem anybody who doesn't use anything
and yeah verdict with reckoning can be yuge
sacred pelican
Most every class blasts, just the state of the game
sharp meteor
yeah it's fun
elder wigeon
man mm hunter burst is out of control
mystic barn
is mm the new ww
elder wigeon
really annoying getting aimshotted for 35K+
sharp meteor
yeah mm smacks
elder wigeon
sure
can't remember the last time I hit above 30K on someone
hit a 27K yesterday on a mage
sacred pelican
At least we can all agree hunters are the worst
ember rose
bm and surv are annoying but mm is deadly
sharp meteor
yeah outside of rat games i don't generally get huge hits
people don't just let you waarbreaker them with avatar and banner up with an execute proc without pressing something
wheat jay
hit a 27K yesterday on a mage
Lmao i hit killshots higher than this
elder wigeon
sorry i can't stack every cd anymore because rogues have step disarm and i only play against mages in RMP
sometimes i see frost mages in a wizard cleave
sharp meteor
that feel when u parry and the rogue step disarms it in 0.2 seconds
elder wigeon
kekw
that feel when you trinket parry a ww with a proc and every cd up and they disarm it and you just die
sharp meteor
leap away with monk clones on you and they do the remaining 40% of your health in like a second
elder wigeon
fringe moat
What covenant is overall more versatile with a variety of comps? Necro or Kyrian?
(3s. Arms)
simple rock
kyrian is always good
I think necro wouldn't particularly benefit some specs like mage/sp/ele
if you q with casters
sharp meteor
more versatile is spear for the reasons espi listed
spearing two melee off your ele/mage/spriest is pretty great
elfin surge
Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
elder wigeon
don't copy pasta yourself cmon man
sharp meteor
full quiver
Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
somber comet
Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
mystic barn
Mud would put Resune in the resune if they ever 1v1d real talk. Resune is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about MoP days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
steep inlet
oki
scarlet barn
oki
winged thistle
word
warped warren
Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
quasi lotus
@steep inlet would put @fickle forge in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Karg is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
warped warren
@scarlet barn would put @fierce elm in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Afro is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
somber comet
@warped warren would put @knotty atlas in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mwahi is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
weary gull
I finally found a healer to play with me for 2v2
He plays disc and im arms. We both kinda noob and just made it to 1600 by pure zugzug.
What would the proper way/strat be for our comp to play?
Oh and im swapping between necro and kyrian, not sure what would be better for our comp
elder wigeon
probably kyrian, and honestly there isn't really a strat for disc war because both don't have much CC and can't really set up for each other
there's just the offensive and defensive script that pertains to each comp you play against
weary gull
Just feels hard to keep him alive sometimes
Still gearing though, im on 35% vers and he on 30% vers
elder wigeon
disc is pretty tanky, very strong cd's, it just becomes a mana issue eventually
weary gull
He must be doing something wrong then, he cant live long enough to get close to oom
Or i must be doing something wrong
I try to intervene
rally
sometimes even fear or stormbolt to help him out
Try to always keep hamstring up
elder wigeon
he needs to try to get kicked on shadow when he has penance and then penance while kicked on shadow then continue to shadowmend
if he's being focused he should play masochism
obviously you can fake kicks if you want, but shadow mend is your most mana efficient castable heal, aside from penance I guess
safe kelp
Hey guys. I play a bit of 3s with a WW friend of mine, we dont have 1,9k experience or anything, but Im wondering if we are missing obviously sick combos. Any tips for the setup?
Also, I heard that in 2s as kyr arms warr, I never want to sit rdruid unless I have speared him - does this apply for 3s as well?
elder mulch
Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.
grand scaffold
Hey guys. I play a bit of 3s with a WW friend of mine, we dont have 1,9k experie...
depends on the comp you fighting against
opal wraith
Yo, I just came back to the game after not playing for a while. What's the best cov I should be running in 2s with a rsham?
scarlet barn
Yo, I just came back to the game after not playing for a while. What's the best ...
Kyrian or necrolord, either works well
scarlet barn
Misshapen mirror occasionaly against jungle/rmx and other potential caster comps
Enduring blows otherwise
dusk crane
on ranking im seeing a lot of necro warriors
so is necro better than kyrian?
bcs i wanna do some pve later as well i went with kyrians
full quiver
Well you can just swap whenever now
elder wigeon
necro is better in most of the best comps for warrior, not all however
sacred pelican
@weary gull should see if your partner is open to holy instead of disc. Can stun into fear to set up your go’s and has plenty of outs with fade and divine ascension/holy ward
Of all the healers disc probably is the least ideal pairing with arms in 2s.
full quiver
yeah you'll lose to every rdruid/war as disc lol
war just sits your disc entire game
thick reef
if i unlock Rival I upgrade for the week, even if i dip below 1800 or 1770, my vault and my max upgrade for the week is still RIval I right?
sharp meteor
Yep!
wicked magnet
so...i uh tried kyrian and uh....yeah i switched to resto but uh...how are people not talking about the massive massive burst they have?
like that crap is laugh out loud absurd
🤔 maybe its cause im a dark iron and the fireblood makes it so much more ridiculous but its truly disgusting
full quiver
because u can just kill the totem
sharp meteor
generally in arena you want the most consistent thing and the meme totem ain't that
full quiver
it's pretty consistently useless
sharp meteor
although nf if you're left alone for a few seconds is pretty good
can also spiritwalkers it
wicked magnet
heh
actually the relocation of the totem is off gcd
and fireblood counts as a dispel which counts as a heal and its also off gcd
so i can move it to you and detonate it and theres no way you can stop it in time
wicked magnet
can also spiritwalkers it
i didnt even think about that, i should try that next
thick reef
is the only thing worthwhile from the anniversary AV the mount? is there alot of honor/conquest?
fickle crater
hey im seeing a lot of top warriors using the mastery weapon over the crit weapon, is there a reason?
elder wigeon
because the mastery weapon came out with the season and the crit weapon is new, and not a big enough difference to warrant spending all the time farming honor to swap
fickle crater
what if im sitting on a bunch of honor is it worth switching
elder wigeon
probably, crit is a better stat than mastery
fickle crater
ty
thick reef
anyone know why my arena/BG start timer is always off?
sometimes it is spot on, but most of the time, the start timer is way off. Is this a game issue, or DBM issue or what
wicked magnet
that happens to me too i dunno why
thick reef
can i use the pve chest? extra haste and a dom shard.
elder wigeon
I'd argue it's worse, but yes you can use it
sharp meteor
[With realm restarts] Word of Glory's additional healing on friendly targets provided by Hand of the Protector (Talent) has been reduced by 80% when engaged in PvP combat.
🦀 🦀 🦀
ember rose
PogU
simple rock
all my homies hate prot pallies
stark reef
Is it worth it going past 30% verse? I could see a wolrd where 259 PvE gear + dom socket beats 259 PvP gear assuming you have all other slots set
simple rock
yes it is, because of the trinket set bonus
stark reef
Especially Mythic Sylvanas Shoulders just seem straight bis
simple rock
might be different next season because they're changing the bonus to primary stat
stark reef
I mean those shoulders are 259 ilvl with 85 verse, 39 haste + socket
That's definitely better
the KT gear has no verse though
ember rose
Yea shoulders are good, u just want heavy vers on ur pvp items
elfin valve
[With realm restarts] Word of Glory's additional healing on friendly targets pro...
holy shit, is that from 0% or from some other reduction
sharp meteor
Not sure. The talent increases the healing by up to 250% based on missing health so this could be down to 50% or 170%
AT least that's how I think it works idk I don't play prot
elder wigeon
either way it's a sizable nerf to it, will be hard to sustain if it's up to 170% from 250%
prot pallies currently have to get healed by a hybrid or another healer to fill their gaps and vice versa, or have to run a lot in 2v2, now, even with running, it'll be extremely hard, especially if sharpened
with the language used it's probably the ladder rather than the first
tired portal
does anyone know if the new 9.2 trinkets that make you immune to cc work on the spear root?
elder raven
Does anyone have any tips or knowledge when it comes to party intervene macros? Whenever I play 3's it's confusing because sometimes my healer is party 2 and sometimes 3. I know I can put their name in the macro but that would be annoying having to change it every time. Any tips appreciated.
tired portal
Does anyone have any tips or knowledge when it comes to party intervene macros? ...
sortgroup addon makes your party1, party2, party3 consistent
elder raven
sortgroup addon makes your party1, party2, party3 consistent
ty
wheat tangle
sharp meteor
Very nice.
sharp meteor
Does anyone have any tips or knowledge when it comes to party intervene macros? ...
I just have my healer get lead and it stays consistent. As the other fellow said there's also just getting sortgroup.
raw summit
Gz
nocturne radish
[With realm restarts] Word of Glory's additional healing on friendly targets pro...
hell yea
near inlet
Hit 2400 as fury just then
Grats. Which covenant ? Stat priortiy? 2s ? Any advice . Which guide is better?
nocturne radish
!!! 50k
near inlet
😁
fair forge
Question. Why does most ppl who play orc choose axe for pvp? since crit/vers is better than vers/mast?
quasi lotus
Sword didnt exist when most of the people you are looking at got weapon
fair forge
aah okey thanks ;D
ember gorge
Hey, in 3s againts which comps u recommend misshapen lego?
elder wigeon
if you can get away with it? any rdruid comp to reflect clones, any hunter comp to reflect trap and any mage comp to reflect sheep
simple rock
depends what rating you are, but i'd only use it vs hunters tbh
every rdruid plays so different
and it's a gimmick vs good mages
once they learn they'll just fireblast before finishing sheep cast
sharp meteor
Tactician has a 50% increased chance to proc against enemies with Colossus Smash and causes your next Overpower to grant 4% Strength, up to 20% for 15 sec.
Colossus Smash lasts 3 sec longer and increases your damage dealt to affected enemies by an additional 10%
sharp meteor
Yep. 🥳
fluid lichen
lmfao
ember rose
🦀
robust carbon
Anyone here did the mage tower?
elder wigeon
Yeah I can only get to 30% before running out of space, dps check hardcore
I think you have to have gear good for timewalking
rare sentinel
I did the fury mage tower and one shot it
but I did have double crusader enchant and a shit ton of SOO socketed gear
rare sentinel
xylem was just impossible for me with only 6.7k hp or whatever
I die before the 2nd phase to frost bolts
sharp meteor
Did u use regular pvp set?
Yep.
sharp meteor
Also you just cycle through pummel and reflect to maintain second wind.
There's also impending victory.
wary frigate
playing thundercleave at 1700 rn. getting stomped by any shadowplay or aff/spriest. any tips? we just melt when we go on them, and if we try to disengage we just keep melting
robust carbon
Yep.
U are a god among men
Cause i did multiple tries on the demon
And the wall for me is about 30%
With consumables etc
sharp meteor
Platform filled up as the last execute landed and I would've died like a tick later.
Some people in other channels are saying that they got the set despite wiping on void so not sure what's up with that.
fringe moat
Platform filled up as the last execute landed and I would've died like a tick la...
Dm me your set up pls @sharp meteor
sharp meteor
I just used the generic pvp setup.
Except impending victory, rend and second wind.
Probably just do Fury, I think Arms is tight
idle oxide
Tactician has a 50% increased chance to proc against enemies with Colossus Smash...
Why is this not more of a discussion, people rather talking about mage tower (pve - yuk!). Before this everyone was saying they will be running the prot set, but dayum, warbreaker is gonna be insane burst now and Enduring the go to no matter what...
Throw away every other leggo you got, just go Enduring, Kyrian and 4piece and get 2.1 with your eyes closed...
sharp meteor
Yep.
idle oxide
no way this would go live
sharp meteor
And it's still in the works, and obviously kind of batshit insane.
So probably not worth thinking about too much.
Kyrian or Venth with Enduring seems like a good time, though. Pity about Glory, but maybe they'll tweak it.
idle oxide
It looks like they are starting some tweaks to covenant legendaries, so holding thumbs.
simple rock
hope they do something crazy like make nf really good
honestly bored of necrolord meta so don't care for glory rework xd
everyone is necrolord now
thick reef
what is ret/war's best healer
quasi lotus
The ret
elder wigeon
lol
raw summit
Tab>kill totem 
elder wigeon
fierce elm
it does tho lmao
its called mad cheese
happens every once in a while by the psychos running vesper
fierce elm
😠
raw summit
It's not SCK
elder wigeon
grand scaffold
have you guys had better luck with fury or arms mage tower
scarlet barn
Both finished 🙂
graceful quarry
have you guys had better luck with fury or arms mage tower
opal wraith
That new arms tier set tho
wicked magnet
do you use elvui?
i was in a wipe fest huge raid yesterday so i had some time to try disabling different addons and to my surprise disabling elvui made a decent difference
i dunno why i have a lot of the elvui features disabled, i do use their unit frames though
grand scaffold
do you use elvui?
dont use elvui
use dominos and nameplate auras with big debuffs
grand scaffold
Does it make a big difference crafting EB on belt instead of helm
hard nacelle
Anyone know the avg uptime on alacrity
thick reef
dont use elvui
why u say that
raw summit
Does it make a big difference crafting EB on belt instead of helm
More stats but loses you the domination slot if you go raid
wicked magnet
why u say that
Is that what u use? You mentioned lag in big raids the other day
thick reef
nope
i know turning off addons will help, but my question is, my hardware is not even being pushed hard, so what do i have to do to use all my addons.
and it really is just Ashran. AV and Wintergrasp seems to be way better.
paper oracle
Does it make a big difference crafting EB on belt instead of helm
completely negligible, make it on what ever you want
sharp meteor
Does it make a big difference crafting EB on belt instead of helm
So if we're operating under the assumption that we want a lot of haste then helm because there's only a mastery/crit one from the vendor
Helm also has a slightly higher stat budget so more str etc
But really it's pretty minor and if the helm costs a lot more than belt just go with belt
wicked magnet
i know turning off addons will help, but my question is, my hardware is not even...
im guessing it has something to do with something being stuck single threaded like for example maybe all UI elements are only ran on one thread
idle oxide
can unhinge proc against Pets?
elder wigeon
what do you mean?
warped warren
yesnt
thick reef
kk thx
idle oxide
someone told me u don't need the weekly win to upgrade gear
working as intended. It was bugged in 9.1.
thick reef
oh damn, the entire patch?
sharp meteor
yes u were meant to win a game weekly but it just counted the whole season as 1 week for some reason
was eventually fixed
solemn yew
Is there a website that tells you what percentile you are in in 2s/3s?
sharp meteor
rip ladderdex
wheat tangle
2300 cr lf glad push i play dk
grand scaffold
completely negligible, make it on what ever you want
ty
warped warren
np
full quiver
You know what? I'm just going to say it. This server fucking sucks. I don't give a shit if the admins will mute me or if I get banned, but I want to get my message across, because it amazes me how many idiots in this server have a poor taste in quality. This server is like a fucking mental ward, and you all need to seek help. It's always the same damn shit everyday, and nothing new ever comes out of anyone's shriveled brains. Where are all the dank memes? Where are all of the good jokes? Where is all the dark humour? All I see is the same fucking Tumblr screenshots, and it's honestly boring as fuck. ALL of you are boring as fuck, if I'm being frank. I have pity for your parents, because I wouldn't question how would I able to nurture someone so milquetoast and ignorant for 18 years without putting a bullet through my head. You're all lame as fuck. I feel more stupider interacting with you all, and I wouldn't want to spend another second in this toxic atmosphere. Hell I'm actually glad this group exists. It keeps all the unfunny pricks away from the server that appreciate quality in their content. I hope you all get drafted and never come back. I'm done with you assholes.
thick reef
wait are you fr?
i am a disappointment and im 16 so my life hasnt even started so i already know im gonna be in a pity spot when im older
twilit ridge
You know what? I'm just going to say it. This server fucking sucks. I don't give...
Imagine using God complex in a sentence. Yikes. I simply used the definition and explained how I think he isnt generic given the group he is in. If your stance is he is generic you have to explain it other then literally saying everyone is generic because thats some real retard shit. You guys basically broke it down to a point in which you think every character is generic you said he is like illidan, Arthas, Vader and all these other characters all of which have very unique characteristics hell some are heros some are villans some are anti heros
Sorry you cant say you are wrong I know its tough
Since we're doing copypastas
thick reef
6 gems, 4 vers, 1 with the 13 speed, and 1 with the 5% speed, and my character panel says 9% movement speed, does that seem right
simple rock
yea the 5% doesn't show on stats panel
5% gem
there's a speed macro that shows your true speed in chat
simple rock
yes
minor vector
Shows speed stat
simple rock
3% from cloak enchant + 6% from gems
minor vector
Bfa gem is just flat %
thick reef
what totems do i need to kili in pvp?
healing tide? skyfury? what else
cap if u can
oh
yea unless ur on like dr its good to kill it
tab target slam that shit
kk
thick reef
hey guys
im leveling a warrior right now
he's at 26 level. compared to how people talk about op they are @ 60 i find them very weak so far
are they just bad at low level?
full quiver
yeah
i really struggled until like level 57
then you start one shotting stuff pretty easy
wheat jay
???????
full quiver
very gear reliant too
thick reef
im just trying to figure out what the big deal is warriors. they just feel very underpowered low level
wheat jay
Low level doesnt matter my man
Level up
Completely ignore the feeling of power or lack of it on low level
thick reef
im just getting stomped at low level in pvp
wheat jay
Low level pvp oh my god
My man
Low level pvp is for roleplayers
Unless you're one, dont pay attention to it
thick reef
aight
warped warren
40k executes
26k killshots 
elfin valve
it doesn't change at 60 either you're gonna want some ilvl before you feel better but if you roll into a bg as a fresh 60 with ilvl 180 you're gonna feel bad
warped warren
ya
somber comet
#FreeCalibri
wheat jay
#calibrilifematters
near inlet
How is versa/critic build with eb critic/versa leg ? (Necro) is %2-3 haste bad?
elder wigeon
you can play whatever you want, but it's entirely uptime dependent on which stat is better
I do like 8-12% haste as necrolord though
I don't like more however
thick reef
i just tested it with aimed shot on a hunter in front of me and he still full damage. it gnored the 30% damage reduction and parry
interesting
lol this has to be the worst defensive skill i've ever seen
vernal plank
the DR should work on every source of damage
ember rose
U can also get disarmed from behind with dbts
ember rose
lol this has to be the worst defensive skill i've ever seen
Still strong against melee
grand scaffold
dbts op af
not really weak at any time
30% less dmg
stack with d stance
ignore pain
take like no dmg
ember rose
And all that with close to a 1 min cd
thick reef
weird. i get pummeled through it like its nothing at low level
wet scarab
man every other game above 2k is against a BM hunter. Any advice other than afking out?
thick reef
LOL die by the sword is still bugging out
what is going on with this spell
every damage just gets through it
elder wigeon
what're you talking about?
thick reef
its not doing what its supposed to. not sure if its bugged at low levels or what
melee are still able to hit me even with it up
its also not reducing damage done by 30%
its broken
elder wigeon
you can be hit from the back and the sides
elder wigeon
must be bugged for you specifically, never had anything like that occur
thick reef
still was able to hit me and i compared his damage with out it and its his attacks are hitting the same with or without it
trippy
must be a low level bug or something
somber comet
Should @ one of the theorycrafters to see if one of them can figure it out
warped warren
you cant parry hunter attacks
lucid walrus
if the DR's actually bugged then that's another thing but parry is a circumstantial mechanic
warped warren
????
sharp meteor
?!!?
somber comet
!??!
frigid loom
against a dk from the front
Dks use alot of spells, only a few counts as real melee afaik
scarlet barn
i just tested it with aimed shot on a hunter in front of me and he still full da...
doesnt work on ranged attacks
fluid lichen
dbts is one of the best defensives in the game with its cooldown considered
why cant i slice an arrow in the air and parry it? shit game
blazing carbon
LOL die by the sword is still bugging out
They can ignore it if they're kyrians (Hunters)
It's not a bug it's intended
Though DK got magical abilities and I think parries only works for physical abilities
scarlet barn
@thick reef I would wait with judging class until you are max level
Classes are not quite finished at subb level 50
elder wigeon
Though DK got magical abilities and I think parries only works for physical abil...
not true that it's only physical, you can parry final verdicts, obliterates, any magical melee attack of that sort
somber comet
Can I parry Wendys?
warped warren
LOL die by the sword is still bugging out
are you turning your back to everyone or what
grand scaffold
necro>=kyrian>venth=night fae
necro just slightly better
the burst windows really smack
the bubble is awesome too
warm quarry
Ok im kyrian rn bot even sure if its that much better to switch to necro lol
wheat jay
unless necro scales as hard as it does now 🙂
scarlet barn
Wait and see
fickle slate
Hi, had a few months break from the game probably like most people, is RBG community dead nowadays or ?
scarlet barn
Deader
Still some people do it but it is far cry from the start of season
there are still some RBG andies though
wicked magnet
and it really is just Ashran. AV and Wintergrasp seems to be way better.
had a thought, maybe a nameplates addon? does turning off nameplates make a big difference?
wicked magnet
is that solo queue thing going to have normal arena ratings? i feel like it should probably be based on how your class is doing there cause i feel pretty confident I can make a big difference in any comp on my warrior.....my shaman on the other hand 😓
sharp meteor
it'll probably have a separate rating
wheat jay
you mean that brawl?
wicked magnet
yes
sharp meteor
it'll be in next patch
just might not have rating for a bit
while kinks are worked out
looks fun although i don't think any healers i know would ever queue it LMAO
sharp meteor
brawl is for testing purposes
can eventually be made into its own bracket if it's popular and works
which i imagine it will be because the biggest barrier to entry for people is finding partners that don't leave after a loss or two
has a lot of potential imo
sharp meteor
that's an interesting way of looking at it
more likely people queue lose a lot blame their team and quit just like 99% of pvp games lel
but yeah it'll almost certainly see a reasonable degree of success then it's just a matter of how they want to do rewards for it, if they make it its own bracket, and how having people play it will affect 2s and 3s as it'll no doubt siphon a lot of the lfg community
warped warren
has a lot of potential imo
alot of griefing potential
sharp meteor
troll match loss a bunch mmr gets cratered whereas everybody else climbs up idk seems fine
ember rose
Ppl gonna blame teammates 99% of the time lol
sharp meteor
i mean people already do that
for some reason people put their energy into coming up with elaborate scenarios in which they weren't at fault
instead of being like dang im 2k maybe my gameplay isn't flawless
sharp meteor
yeah my poor healers hairline this season
ember rose
instead of being like dang im 2k maybe my gameplay isn't flawless
Took me longer to realize than it should
warped warren
troll match loss a bunch mmr gets cratered whereas everybody else climbs up idk ...
you can grief at any mmr
sharp meteor
he's like i got wings i'm like nah i'm toast bye friend
i mean yeah but why would you
sharp meteor
i mean top end of the ladder will be scuffed
and it'll be rough initially to sort people out
not sure how much i'll try it
maybe when my healer isn't around
ember gorge
Hey, I play 3s with sh,rdru. Which covenant is the best here? I thought for kyrian, but im not sure about it
wicked magnet
what is sh
ember gorge
shadow priest
wicked magnet
cant go wrong with kyrian
sharp meteor
have seen both kyrian and necro
ember gorge
im currently on necro, but i cant see the advantage of it
sharp meteor
kyrian probably better for offering support though
ember gorge
also rdru or rsham is the better for this comp?
druids seems kinda broken since patch tbh
wicked magnet
i dunno i was looking at the numbers for rshaman, spriest, war, they looked pretty good to me but i was only looking at going to 2100
on my rshaman i mean
wet scarab
Which trinket are you guys using for necro? My haste is pretty low so wondering if I should use that instead of the crit one I used for Kyrian
What haste should I be aiming for?
minor vector
10% haste is a good middle ground for necro, can go fully into it or mix crit or vice versa
Hard to go wrong with warriors stats
I prefer badge for the burst personally but insignia is perfectly fine
wet scarab
yeah I've been liking the badge a lot because I can sometimes actually land a kill in its windows when banner isn't up
but was wondering if I can get more pressure overall from the haste
minor vector
I’d say you’re better off sticking with badge
wet scarab
So would you also use the crit or mastery weapon?
minor vector
Crit, mastery’s our worst stat
thick reef
blizzard should've offerd an exchange/refund for the mastery wep
sharp meteor
why lol conq is uncapped now just go farm the other wep if one secondary makes that big of a deal
minor vector
yeah that would be a real weird and specific precedent to set
elder wigeon
why lol conq is uncapped now just go farm the other wep if one secondary makes t...
the point is that it wasn't available as a choice when we all farmed for the two hander in the first place
sharp meteor
what's weird is that they added a bunch of new weapon combos mid season
which was nice
elder wigeon
well yeah
minor vector
sword looks 10x better than the axe too so that’s another plus
elder wigeon
indeed
sharp meteor
yeah super happy with their current model of recoloring all the raid weps and having an elite tint
hope they keep this + class sets
minor vector
Yeah haven’t had that since WoD
sharp meteor
peak was s16 where it was a mythic raid recolor BUT also a new helm/shoulders, some of which were animated
THAT was great
but class sets + elite weps is also quite good
minor vector
Optimus Prime warrior set is by far the best
minor vector
Armed and dangerous with that head blade
elder wigeon
back in my day, pvp gear and pve gear was completely separate in looks and stats
wheat jay
back in my day, pvp gear and pve gear was completely separate in looks and stats
Sure grandpa, lets get you back to bed, you need rest
sharp meteor
they've handled the gear in so many ways over the years
tbc was just gear
wotlk was gear plus elite weps
cata was elite weps and armor
worn lagoon
ember rose
Necro
flint shadow
Whats the best Kyrian Arms legendary and on which piece should it be used? (PVP)
sharp meteor
elysian might aka big spear on legs due to their higher stat budget but boots also fine if legs are expensive
legs have the added benefit of being able to be vers/crit because the conq legs are vers/mastery and vers/haste while the boots are vers/haste and vers/crit
enduring blows on helmet is also an option but imo you can safely run elysian into almost every matchup
flint shadow
Thank you!
thick reef
is elvui or its profiles, like atrocity UI, bad for pvp?
sharp meteor
idk whatever lets u see what u need to see
lucid walrus
could use a buff i think
maybe some more primary stat. let's say 4% strength from tactician proc'd overpowers or something
elder wigeon
straight up, can hit a lock for 40k and they just don't die
playing against double lock at 2600 getting stage 4 leukemia
paper oracle
thick reef
so i just hit rival 2, should i upgrade all my pieces first, or swap the axe to sword (from scratch). i suppose the sword is a sidegrade so should not be priority?
sharp meteor
sword low priority relative to ilev imo
wary frigate
is arms/restosham just auto lose against rogue mage?
fierce elm
hell no
simple rock
nah it's a pretty even MU, probably even warr favored
earth ele leggo is dummy op vs mages
paper oracle
is arms/restosham just auto lose against rogue mage?
arms/resto should dominate rogue/mage
idle oxide
Necro Unhinge is so fun. Yesterday got a 64k bladestorm (plus unhinge) in the opener on a DH in a split second. A few moments later landed a 74k Bladestorm (plus unhinge) on a WW monk in a split second. Not broken at all.
scarlet barn
Secret is to play fury
ember rose
scarlet barn
afaik it worked for few people here
Can be boosted in game, cant be boosted in skill . Such a shame isnt it
wheat jay
Can be boosted in game, cant be boosted in skill . Such a shame isnt it
indeed
ember rose
Lol i play warriors at 2k who dont disarm my warbreaker
wicked magnet
https://i.gyazo.com/0156d0e73d378d76962717cacdcb0a80.png
how did you do that, i cant even do that on purpose
people losing on purpose would ruin it
wicked magnet
must be super fast leaver or something lol
grand light
just dont understand why lol
wicked magnet
or maybe didnt accept the queue?
scarlet barn
Lol i play warriors at 2k who dont disarm my warbreaker
Mindgames
quasi lotus
ive no idea how this guy did it
More than likely to be an alt for tanking mmr
dusky sinew
what is the fastest way to gain Conquest solo style?
Seems like I just spam BGs and it's the best I an figure so far
*farm
anyone alive out here?
oO
O.o
fickle burrow
Heya boys/gals. What are your thoughts on what covenant to go with in 9.2 with us beeing able to use double leggos. I'm playing necro arms and my comps are Rdruid/arms and Rdruid/Ret/arms.
sharp meteor
what is the fastest way to gain Conquest solo style?
gutter mmr ranked
sharp meteor
Heya boys/gals. What are your thoughts on what covenant to go with in 9.2 with u...
kyrian looking to be king again, venth has potential, necro could fall off a bit because glory is underwhelming
fickle forge
https://i.gyazo.com/0156d0e73d378d76962717cacdcb0a80.png
Prob just a char to tank MMR on for boosts
dusky sinew
gutter mmr ranked
what does that mean?
sharp meteor
it means grind out wins at low mmr
because wins give conquest regardless of rank
and you just want a high volume of wins which is quicker/easier at low mmr
dusky sinew
arena skirmishes?
dusky sinew
oh my friends told me not to even look into it bc my ilvl too low, wont get accepted on teams/grps?
205
sharp meteor
ideally trying to avoid honor gear because it's kind of inefficient
sharp meteor
low ilev with no main to mail conq gear over from is jsut kind of suffering rn
can buy a 230 piece and 200 boes from the AH
warped warren
https://i.gyazo.com/0156d0e73d378d76962717cacdcb0a80.png
its called an anchor
scarlet barn
anyone alive out here?
Not everyone is here all the time, be patient
dusky sinew
ok
sharp meteor
and idk i just threw my body at low mmr matches to get my alt warr geared
dusky sinew
idk how to that, it wont let me find groups
maybe im too low still
i can for dungeons/raids but not for pvp
im a newbie
QuickMatch
relexes too slow, lol
more coffee
sharp meteor
i never found caffeine terribly helpful
and while better reflexes don't hurt you generally benefit more from more awareness and game knowledge
grand light
More than likely to be an alt for tanking mmr
they had 0 xp on check-pvp
sharp meteor
can't imagine any warrior actually managing to go 1-64
anybody that green quit months ago
sharp meteor
yeah like the intiial gearing process right now is kind of scuffed
but once you get over that hump it's mostly fine
dusky sinew
is the hump from 200-230? bc that what it seems for me
sharp meteor
yep around that area
honor gear covers it but it feels bad to dump 50k honor into shit you'll replace with conq pieces
sharp meteor
which is why i say you just kind of bite the bullet and do low mmr ranked for conq
daily bg/ebg win and the pvp quests also help
like kill 10 npcs in wintergrasp for 250 conq
or kill tremblade for 175-250 conq
dusky sinew
where do i go to do that
rated bgs?
i just spam QuickMatch, random bg and bam 15pts at a time i'll get to 5000 lol
idk its kinda fun tho
sharp meteor
those are in epic bgs
topaz ether
tough compass
Hope they suck and Hit what you can reach, also his pet. The more targets the faster the druid ooms. As Kyrian swaps on druid with SB and Spear. Venth just swap around. Generally the MU is 80-90% loss
wary frigate
arms/resto should dominate rogue/mage
please explain. i'm the rsham. against good ones i get cheap/kidney > poly every time poly is off dr and i trinket or my warr dies. and between it my warr cant stick the mage or the rogue as they perma slow him and line until they dr is ready again.
hushed plank
Is your war actually trinketing and using defensives ?? Are you purging combust ? Is war actually keeping a slow on the rogue ? Keep an eye on your positioning as well for shadowstep(track it ) last thing make sure your both not trinketing the opener one needs to trinket defensive /peel. Takes practice good luck 🙂
late prism
What legendary should you have as necro war? Sephuz, Mirror and Enduring?
graceful quarry
pin
sharp meteor
enduring as general pick
mirror to protect teammates or fk over hunters
maybe sephuz into cc heavy teams
unhinged good for meme 1-shots and has potential vs melee cleaves maybe
owO
wheat jay
mirror to protect teammates or fk over hunters
Doesnt rly fuck them in 3s
If you're lucky you get one reflected trap
The first one
paper oracle
please explain. i'm the rsham. against good ones i get cheap/kidney > poly every...
So there's a ton of dynamics. But in general, only trinket blind, use your earth ele leggo on the rogue, and disrupt disrupt disrupt. The main goal when facing rogue mage is to never let it be 2v0. So if they're getting double cc on your team, that's your warriors trinket. After that, you should always be able to disrupt something.
simple rock
It feels better to put earth ele on mage lately, was playing at 2500 and mages were getting destroyed with purge spam and ele
cuz of triune ward nerf
so they would only get 2 goes
sharp meteor
yeah in 3s they have more help
but in 2s they're usually too dumb and bad to cover their traps
raw summit
Turns out my feral buddy didnt click the last trait and we've been missing out on Kevin since 2 weeks
sharp meteor
feral brain
frank knoll
Feral just zugged zugged my priest while I was sheeped/rooted/clones half the game 😦
I miss overwatch
wheat jay
Turns out my feral buddy didnt click the last trait and we've been missing out o...
@fickle forge 
See this guy was missing on Kevin for like a month
Or more
Because he was too lazy to get 15 more renown
And then for few more weeks cuz he forgot to click it
I know your pain man
raw summit
There's been so many games where i barely dont get the kill
I wonder how many Kevin wouldve won
graceful quarry
karg is just assembled alternatively
thick reef
how do u not get pushed off by hunter?
stay really far from edge?
does it help if i stay on the inner side compared to hunter's postion
wheat jay
Unless he Has explosive trap
sharp meteor
iun which case its like a ground thing
wheat jay
Then its a trap on the ground
wheat jay