lots of feral druids of both covenants too
#pvp
gritty salmon
Thats its biggest issue
The dps it does is decent, it just has horrible surivability compared to arms
lucid walrus
the vast majority of my games have more hunters than warriors
casters more common too
sharp meteor
Nope, they cap at 239 from the vendor.
Couple hours of rift farming with a group and you'll be stacked, though.
dry trail
ye need like 2k more rep for tier 6 archivist
i have to hurry before reset and get honour almost upgrades everything to duelist
some pieces missing tho
fierce elm
Just win a game next reset
wet scarab
do you guys have suggestions for talent options against hunters? do you have any particular strats? I feel like in 2s the uptime is such that it's only really worth training the healer in those games and hope to outdps the hunter. I've had some success on occasion when I've taken double time instead of stormbolt in terms of uptime, though it isn't that much better and makes it harder to set up goes
sharp meteor
i usually just play misshapen and pve the healer
wanted to try warbringer plus double time but doesn't feel great when u can't bolt the freedom
ember rose
I just play leaper vs bms cba lmao
thick reef
kyrian or necro for 2s/rbgs? 😄
wet scarab
Those new PvP trinkets are going to make spear fun again in 9.2
wicked magnet
still havent done necro myself but cant imagine it beats kyrian in rbgs
dry trail
i have full crit gear but need like 10% haste for necro to feel smooth
hasty fractal
Hey all, been Kyrian for a week now, and pretty fun. But I am using Pelagos, and I think I am making ZERO use of Newfound Resolve and the little sparks from Combat Meditation. Is there another suggestion for soulbind?
pastel garden
Forgelite.
Forgelite Mikanikos generally, Kleia for feral/assa rogues seems to be the idea.
hasty fractal
ok, doing RBGs right now, but I am doing arenas as well
pastel garden
Ye. Forgelite is the go to for those.
pale minnow
the vast majority of my games have more hunters than warriors
:)
pale minnow
casters more common too
:)
sharp meteor
i feel like i don't see many hunters in 3s
anecdotally couldn't find any ferals on my hunter in lfg
pale minnow
I see alot of rmps in 3s nowdays
Locks at higher rating will trinket your bolt and insta port if you are kyrian just sayin, heads up on not throwing spear until u are sure he will sit that bolt and of course not close to the portal
sharp meteor
yeah i noticed
tried having my sham sunder them
and they aren't as likely to trinket that
or i would just bolt and they'd trinket port
and i'd spear next bolt
then they'd gate
zz
pale minnow
We usually go for the priest
pale minnow
Pre silence in spear and get arsefucked
sharp meteor
been going enduring
pale minnow
Oh sorry forgot to mention silence comes from my sp
sharp meteor
i feel like good splay farms melee cleaves
oh yeah i wish my partner players shadow
pale minnow
Yeah i love warr+sp
pale minnow
So much easier for me then clunky greedy paladins fatfingering bubble
sharp meteor
just setup my ret and it dies so easily
stupid long ass globals
more specs should have shit on the gcd namely defensives
pale minnow
Yeah annoying, i dropped my ret for a sp and immediatelly pushed 100 points in 30min xd
Really got rid of alot of headache
Yesterday i played 12 min game vs a frost mage + demolock + rdruid
Was insanely painful, but we won so they can suck it
sharp meteor
not looking forward to triangle comps popping up again
there's like a 3.2k frost/mm
pale minnow
That's a big rip
sharp meteor
wanna eat a 25k aimed shot or a 25k frost bolt
pale minnow
There are some sick chese comps some people play
sharp meteor
yeah stuff hasn't been fully explored
we only just got cov swaps so
suddenly more paladins can be like hey lets try necro ret
or nf prot
pale minnow
Frost dk + mm hunter 
sharp meteor
queued into fdk aff a month or two ago and it was rly annoying
dk wasn't using his stuff in response to our goes so thankfully we clapped him but if he did it would've been awful because zero chance we hit lock with limb and chains
pale minnow
Nf prot- disc and convoke balance , 0.2 sec magic trick
sharp meteor
yeah get vaporized
pale minnow
I mean he can even be invis and you just stay together and pray
Then he comes out with queen convoke da xd
2 of us died before we could've pressed anything
Was like some horror movie where we get dragged in by the monster in the darkness
sharp meteor
just another one of those things that'll pop up more now that people can swap
friend was wailing about capping an alt and queuing into 3x marksman
thick reef
queuing 2s on my alt and all you face is feral/dps, rogue/mage and balance/prot
elder wigeon
love it
thick reef
never lost against balance/prot but holy shit its the most painful comp ive ever played against
warped warren
hecking druid abusers
elder wigeon
it's really not fun, especially ret rdruid
they just play like sissies until it hits higher dampening and you just lose from ret burst
scarlet barn
nocturne radish
yeah warr + sp seems rly fun
might try that comp now that some of u guys were talking about it
sharp meteor
spriest is nice because it can get a lot of its stuff out without casting initially
instant dots, unfurling, goo ball that summons a skeletont hat does 2k dps
hey look 7k dps while floating around and not casting, also instant ranged cc on healer
thick reef
dont forget the enormous amount of peeling/self-peel
sharp meteor
yep
between disarm, duel, rally, fear, intervene, dispers, fade, embrace, fleshcraft, desp prayer then healer externals you just kind of live and pve people
wet scarab
I queued into a prot warrior for the first time last night ❤️
he was doing pretty good damage too, quite threatening, not a long dampening game
sharp meteor
hmm interesting it's one of the few specs i haven't seen
although i did see a few armories of warrs who had played it to glad range
95% of the time it's just somebody who played arms who swapped to tank keys or something
nocturne radish
between disarm, duel, rally, fear, intervene, dispers, fade, embrace, fleshcraft...
yea for sure
yeah i qued into prot/enahnz once funny part was prot warrior outdpsed the enhanz
sharp meteor
poor enh
nocturne radish
fr haha
i might swap tho might try warr/sp and try to rotate defensives i like my ret but it sucks when we overlap rally and bubble or some other stuff
sharp meteor
i need to queue more retwarr
feel like the play is often to sit on holy power to heal self
or rather always have it banked instead of just sending your 3 hp on verdict asap
sharp meteor
fear usually to scuff a setup or go
intervene usually up around the same time but also sort of like
so like with turbo ill send bolt into spear on a target then my sham doom winds
second bolt is kind of flex and then third bolt has to align with spear and doom winds again
similar thing for intervene
use in response to cds, you'll usually be able to use it again sometime beefore they're up again, but make sure i t'll be up by the time their next go is up
nocturne radish
got it thanks so u mainly use fear/intervene to help fight against setups to protect ur ret right just making sure
sharp meteor
generally yeah we're just playing to live as we win most matchups on mana
nocturne radish
Gotcha thanks ill try that i sometimes intervene him at half hp or lower and fear when they pop a big cd
sharp meteor
we'll also just randomly send it offensively some matchups and kill somebody in 3 seconds
nocturne radish
yeah those games are fun haha
gotta love ur ret hitting 20k through wall with FV
sharp meteor
we queued turbo and then both of us melee decided hey i wanna play retwarr
so we both setup a ret and a warr
nocturne radish
lmao thats sick
sharp meteor
and have both been playing both sides ofi t
warped warren
ret warr 
sharp meteor
we both understand why rets randomly flop now
it's like do i use wog here
down 80% in a sec ow dead
sharp meteor
yeah zug
warped warren
sharp meteor
matchup dicussion be like
nocturne radish
warripr pusshes ret wheelchair with banner
sharp meteor
generally yeah
ret doesn't have easy access to most healers unless they trollin so
i send bolt and while it's mid-air or as it's connecting ret hoj kill target
or hoj first if no dispell available, or i feared healer, or if my healer got cc on enemy healer
nocturne radish
got it thanks if ret is close tho he can hoj healer right
sharp meteor
yeah
nocturne radish
ahhh i see thanks
sharp meteor
like if you stacked and cleaving it up in the deathball then hoj is great on healer
sharp meteor
not sure, i need to see their numbers
probably necro/kyrian
i wanna say they need a ms but maybe if they're durable enough they could play with something meme like aff
and just eat all the melee cleaves who can't reach the lock
warped warren
sharp meteor
i doubt prot is in any way better than arms
similar to brm which seems dece but, like, ww
warped warren
nop
nocturne radish
yea bm can stun and cc quite a bit
dry trail
do you guys play gladiator's emblem at all ?
i mean i don't play shackles or emblem just badge of ferocity
sharp meteor
idk haven't seen prot dam or the perma root recently but it seems like it might have potential
likely too small of a ball of stats after tank nerfs directed at pala and guardian tho heh
and emblem decent as another defensive yeah it lasts a long time
sharp meteor
probably not but that's all i heard in legion as well
wet scarab
the prot I played against was kyrian, guessing uses same spec for keys
I was playing around 1950 MMR
but yeah he did pretty decent dps, I think if he was necro or something he might have actually killed me
not because he did a ton of damage exactly, but because most healers don't know their abilities or cooldowns and can't play around them
sharp meteor
Might actually grab a 1h to try protection
at the point where the only thing I can buy is other weapons for the elite tint
wet scarab
yeah I bought the 1H and shield for the mog and to tank keys with them
sharp meteor
I don't know who I'm going to grief into queuing with this.
maybe like a ww and rsham
wet scarab
heh
wasn't there a vid a few months back of a necro prot doing like 45k damage or something in 3 seconds at the opener
sharp meteor
Possibly? I have seen very little prot content or play in general.
Again, probably suffers from the ball of stat issue where they just take too much damage for how little damage they'll do, but maybe not.
wet scarab
wasn't there something called turtle cleave back in the day
prot warrior hunter paladin
warped warren
yea but prot back then crit half of ppls hp
thick reef
question is do you want to go for a shield slam build
or what
looking at shield bash that stuff could destroy casters
so many options, literally
sharp meteor
Ideally you don't open hard
get slow up, get wounds up, build overpower stacks, fish for execute proc
then banner into bolt avatar into execute/ms
frail light
aha okay thanks!
dry trail
what do you think about my necro stats ? should i add more haste like 10% ?
sharp meteor
I am enjoying playing with a haste-heavy build on necro
at least in non-smurf matches
sharp meteor
Ye.
dry trail
i was venthyr so whole gear crit
i bought cloak with haste and made the leggo with haste so im not like 4%
i will try 10% +
frigid loom
8-9% is the sweet spot imo. Above that i feel you loose to much crit, and below it feels horrible
mortal marlin
is necro better than kyrian?
sharp meteor
uhh maybe not in general
ember rose
I am enjoying playing with a haste-heavy build on necro
How much haste
sharp meteor
think maybe like kryain/necro(retwarr) > necro > nf/venth
sharp meteor
How much haste
like 18-20% but i could probably shift a bit into crit
i just like being able to get disarms/duels/rallies quicker, and the haste feels nice for a playing to live playstyle
ember rose
Yea makes sense
mortal marlin
do you guys go pelagos?
sharp meteor
honestly he's probably pretty good for spear goes if you can fish for a spirit proc
i usually just play mika though sometimes kleia
thick reef
he's really good defensively
mortal marlin
mika is the safe pick right?
sharp meteor
mika has the aoe stun which can be really nice
dry trail
i have all covenants besides kyrian renown 80 i don't really like the vial shit and the aesthetics
sharp meteor
Vial certainly feels underwhelming after playing Necro
dry trail
ye fleshcraft owns
frail light
do you still go enduring lego if u are kyrian or u also want the em lego?
wet scarab
I play Mika mostly but don’t like losing a potency conduit, just feels bad offensively compared to necro burst if you hit a bad RNG string
sharp meteor
I play elysian like 90-95% of the time
frail light
so you u mostly wanne go mika aswell
dry trail
u guys use the axe or the sword ?
sharp meteor
Operating under the assumption that crit>mastery I think that the sword is probably the play
although the axe does have more vers
dry trail
ye it's like trading 2% crit for 1 versa gem
thick reef
sword is better imho
elfin surge
sword is bis
sharp meteor
i hope they do elite weapon tints again next season
sharp meteor
s1 just used nathria weps i thought
because i do recall getting new appearances as i upgraded my weps but when i looked at the pve vendor i had all the appearances despite not raiding
thick reef
yeah the elite appearance was the mythic appearance aswell
warped warren
How much haste
25% 
nocturne radish
u guys rly think sword is bis? thats sick i got it in my vault but havent used it yet
sharp meteor
again operating under the assumption that crit is better than mastery
the sword should be better
not sure exactly how the stats weigh
nocturne radish
gotcha thanks yea extra crit def helps
sharp meteor
i think crit might fall off a bit if/when the meta slows down
nocturne radish
yeah prob haste is p good now
sharp meteor
but games turning on a mortal combo proc + crit
nocturne radish
true
proven maple
War Sp mirrors. Do you open on the SP. They can peel an opener so well sometimes I feel like living while chugging healer is better?
3s
rugged swan
so changed to necro to get renown, please explain what is that spell "Raise Banner" and do i need to use it in arena, because i don't see any buff when that instant casted banner over my head?
minor vector
It’s cosmetic
rugged swan
ok, ty, so banner and fleshcraft 2 spells
sharp meteor
It's just an RP thing, yeah.
Although you can sometimes spooky people into thinking you actually used banner.
rugged swan
thx for your answers u both guys 🙂
sharp meteor
What are the NF and Kyrian cosmetic things, anyways? Venth is that your hands get soaked in blood after killing something with condemn, and necro has the banner.
minor vector
Soulshape I’m guessing for NF, since its perma in rested areas
Kyrian is probably the Steward’s extra options
south wren
hey guys, what soulbind to pick as night fae, to have some fun, never played it before
broken zephyr
Can't seem to get a consensus on forums, anyone able to tell me what the current arms meta is? Gonna try to slog out glad
sharp meteor
Kryian with Elysian Might or Necrolord with Enduring/Misshapen then queue with a ww, ret, shaman, spriest, dk or feral + rdruid/rsham
broken zephyr
Oh that's interesting. Is Venthyr Condemn no longer viable?
sharp meteor
It's viable, but due to the nerfs to armor and the buff to execute as well as the addition of 8 second spear it has kind of fallen off.
Just kind of underwhelming in 3v3 relative to Necro/Kyrian imo
broken zephyr
Ahhh wow. I'll check out Kyrian! If I swap at 57 renown will I have to grind Kyrian renown from 0?
sharp meteor
I'm not sure. There's a skip to 40 but you may need to have been 80 on a char already to buy it, can't remember.
There's a vendor by the FP upstairs in Oribos that sells a thing for 500g that lets you skip to 40
south wren
yes, you need to have renown 80 on 1 of your toons
broken zephyr
malding
broken zephyr
quickest way to pop to 80?
sharp meteor
Comp Stomp
Not active now so probably layer 6-9 Torghast speed runs where you just b line it to the next floor
broken zephyr
holy shit you can just do that?
scarlet barn
Ofc
broken zephyr
thats amazing
scarlet barn
Layer 9 is most reliable
sharp meteor
Yeah. Super boring, but you can get <5 minute runs in that have a 60-90% chance of getting a renown, varying by current renown level.
broken zephyr
Can you repeat layers for the same chance or is it just once per week?
broken zephyr
That's such a good way to cheese renown
elder wigeon
not really cheesing it if they've intentionally made it easy to get 80 several weeks after you could first get it
tranquil hemlock
9 is most reliable
steel ferry
Is the white two weps from 2.1k?
ember rose
ya
sharp meteor
You get the appearance by upgrading it to Duelist quality which requires 2100 yeah
wet scarab
How do you actually beeline to the end without dying
lucid walrus
dnt let your health drop to 0
minor vector
dnt let your health drop to 0
this guy's onto something
wet scarab
Gonna try that. What’s the best leggo and covenant for not letting your health drop to 0
elder wigeon
none of them are particularly good at that now but technically necrolord
full quiver
How do you actually beeline to the end without dying
Just run the victory rush talent and double time, then you pop everything and one shot boss
warm quarry
thick reef
as arms war what soul bind do i use as necro
sharp meteor
plague deviser
robust hearth
plague deviser
So I dnt have to worry about the other soulbinds? ;3
warped warren
nop
wooden canyon
as kyrian arms with kyrians might i just want to stack crit and vers?, my haste is down to 7% but it doesnt matter?
dry trail
secondary stats doesn't count in pvp from items right ? so it makes vault items with leech speed etc not worth it ?
elder wigeon
they don't work in pvp
wicked magnet
i want to try another class, how are enh shaman these days? i havent tried a shaman since vanilla
oh wait nevermind they go venthyr right? hows a kyrian enh shaman? lol
nocturne radish
lmao enhanz is ok rn
i think u find a good warrior and que with that if u wanna push 3s
wicked magnet
im looking for something good in outdoor pvp but not a rogue/druid but that can throw out an extra heal every now and then to help my wifes raiding guild thats full of baddies. Would ret be a much better choice?
i already have a monk
exotic wyvern
Guys re picking the game after a time away and want to dust the rust off and learn the ins and out s of the class in arena. Which covenant is better atm in 2’s, necro or kyrian?
Been doing some reading/lurking on twitch and it seems those are the options, right?
sharp meteor
Yep.
wet scarab
I think you'll have an easier time as a returnee with kyrian, at least it was for me when I started doing pvp properly in SL
helped a lot fighting mobile classes
it's also really fun in BGs
elfin valve
wicked bison
is nf worth it as fury or is banner still better
elder wigeon
pretty confident necro is the best for fury still
dawn hill
Is the Venth coven leggo good in 2s?
sharp meteor
Yep.
wet scarab
just hit 2k cr for the first time, nothing special but a personal milestone, wanted to thank you all for answering every manner of stupid question
sharp meteor
Congrats, fren.
dreamy compass
Best soulbind for kyrian war+dh comp in 3x3? Nobody is playing into war so it seems mechanikos is losing his advantage. Kleia or pelagos is better for dmg in this comp?
fickle forge
why are they using this lame colour instead of red for glad mount
They did the same in BFA by denying us these versions 🙂
fickle forge
They spend time making different recolors, but choose to stay with the same color in a different tone
warped warren
the bfa ones look good tho
full quiver
Karg you won't get it anyways if you keep queueing with artji and afro
wheat jay
Karg you won't get it anyways if you keep queueing with artji and afro
Saving this
I'll reply again when i get glad
elfin valve
damn why we can’t get the red glad mount. ksm got red and takes no skill.
I mean I won’t get it anyway 
ember rose
Just get it
quiet notch
is there a good guide or a clip of mud explaining his oneshot? I swapped to necro and wanna try it myself... not sure what the globalorder exactly is
full quiver
Just play necro
nocturne radish
he gets 2 charges of op buff then nerco banner > avatar > warbreak >sharpen or he might excute or charge it depends
might not be the right order 100% but he does something like that
depends on matchup too he will sometimes save avatar to break root vs mage too
quiet notch
and what does his bladestorm do? alwayys looks like he bladestorms for half a global, cancels it and kills enemy with the global after
nocturne radish
he bladestorms sometimes for pure dam or to prevent being cced cuz u cant be cc while in bstorm and u can be immune to disarm
quiet notch
ah thats good to know.. and people play enduring blow leggo right?
nocturne radish
yeah gen u do
sometimes he plays unhigned and does big dam with banner but yea gen alot of nercos pref enduring for passive dam
unhigned only for meme 1 shot tbh
sharp meteor
is there a good guide or a clip of mud explaining his oneshot? I swapped to necr...
Basically it's just walk into somebody, piercing/hamstring, mortal strike for debuff, get overpower buffs up, then wait for execute proc
Once you get it then banner, warbreaker, storm bolt, cahrge for warbringer then execute into sharpen
bolt prior to warbreaker if you think they'll use something
Then obv bladestorm if ur unhinged
and that straight instakills most people at lower mmrs
nocturne radish
yea
sharp meteor
but yeah can be any time in the first minute or you can even send a bolt and warbreaker first to get trinkets/cds
proccing insignia and sinful revelation also good
don't need to force it especially when people so willing to burn defensives onair
nocturne radish
yeah
its cool to split it and kill them when they burn defensives on the first go
fluid lichen
what best legendary?
robust carbon
EM for kyrian EB for necro
mystic barn
leaper
sharp meteor
yeah looking forward to it
lucid walrus
Everyone exited for pvp in 9.2?
no
sharp meteor
big spear + another leggo it's like christmas
enduring sephuz misshapen unhinged so many choices
fluid lichen
i love how they tried to say covenant choice wasnt game changing
and then when they release 2 legendaries, one of them has to be your cov lego
sharp meteor
They wanted people to be rewarded for specializing
Like if you pick one covenant you'll do more raid damage but be worse in pvp whereas if you pick the lockdown/burst/cc one you'll be better in pvp but less useful in keys
Not that I'm agreeing with their philosophy but that's kind of how they seemed to see it
somber comet
That was the intent.
The problem was some classes just got shafted with their choice
Granted, skill can make even a shit covenant work.
My mm friend is necro
And he’s got all his +20s
sharp meteor
Yep. Specs weren't affected equally. Some played the same cov regardless of content, others didn't.
I think that it was a horrible mistake trying to tie the powers to actually joining the covenants
elder wigeon
well now that you can swap, it doesn't really matter now does it?
from a competitive standpoint
sharp meteor
Yeah but here we are a year later and they reluctantly change their stance
except that it didn't and they'll do it again next expansion
thick reef
Does spell reflect reflect the dmg or the spell. For example i reflected a deathbolt from a warlock but it did 0 dmg even though i had full dots on me
sharp meteor
It kind of varies. In the case of deathbolt I think that the damage is only dealt to the target as it's based off dots on them, and nether/reflect aren't going to bounce a 30-50k bolt back their way.
thick reef
Ahhh ok
thick reef
in the case of DK they get shafted hard because the only cov you can play is necro
playing anything else is practically griefing yourself and your teammates
elder wigeon
depends on what you're playing into
Kleia into assassination rogues and ferals for ascendant phial and hope springs eternal, mikanikos into RMP for auto-phial and stun, pelagos into other stuff if you prefer it over mikanikos
I prefer mikanikos into everything other than feral/assass
drowsy goblet
alright ill keep this in mind thank you 🙂
sharp meteor
i found a nf dk at 2.5mmr in 3s the other week
Maybe he's experimenting. I remember seeing a few DKs roll NF then craft the covenant leggo or pheromones.
wicked magnet
i want to try another class, how are enh shaman these days? i havent tried a sh...
tried it, jesus they really need some gcd relief, since when are major cooldowns like that all on gcd
oak oak
what's the quick n dirty of why arms is playing necro? is there a good guide on it?
oak oak
alright, thanks!
nocturne radish
yea kyrian best for 2s prob
sharp meteor
necro is just kind of treat conq banner like wings except it also buffs teammates
also more durable
nocturne radish
yea
frank knoll
Fury owns
thick reef
Guys, I'm swapping over from Venthyr to Necro. What the hell do I press now instead of Condemn? 🤪
native folio
ok guys, what soulbind as Kyrian
nocturne radish
most ppl pref mika. Kleia if u fight feral or assas
nocturne radish
np 😄 u go kleia cuz she has a good trait to stop bleeds dont remebmer what its called just a fwi vs assas rogue/feral druid
robust hearth
I hope condemn makes a comeback next season 
nocturne radish
true def do miss the good old days of s1 when warrs were venth
very few kyrian and like none nerco lol
robust hearth
Thts because condemn was the best New ability a warrior needed all along
Being able to execute at 80% and above is a warriors dream
nocturne radish
for sure
robust hearth
I hope the ability gets brought over in the next xpac too
fresh kite
What is the best leggo for arms warrior rated battlegrounds?
nocturne radish
What is the best leggo for arms warrior rated battlegrounds?
tough one a lot of them use unhigned for cleave tbh
robust hearth
As necro for rated bgs, I use the necro leggo on chest peice @fresh kite
nocturne radish
yeah that works too
robust hearth
Necro executes 40k+ crits ppl die
fresh kite
its either NF or Kyrian for rated bgs for me
robust hearth
LUL NF
fresh kite
is necro Bis for rated bgs?
robust hearth
Kyrian is weak and can often bug and most of the time hunters and .ages know how to get themselves free from a kyrian spear
robust hearth
If u playing fury. Highly recommend u snt do rated bgs as a fury warrior unless u plan to keep playing at low bracket
robust hearth
Arms necro, with the necrolord leggo on chest
fresh kite
whats the leggo called?
fresh kite
whats ur rating? i got to 1980 last season but havent touched it much this season
robust hearth
Currently 1878 but I haven't been playing much till recently tho, I was 2200 last season
nocturne radish
bad
its called
glory
the nerco lego u can use that or unhigned i think or spear lego if u go kyrian for rbgs
nocturne radish
i thought that to because if they are stacked its free kills almost
teams might make the mistake of being stacked and u can punish them for it as kyrian i think
nocturne radish
haha even the name of the spell seems troll now
wheat jay
Always been stupid
Spamming one ability
70% of dmg from condemn
That is also a charge
nocturne radish
lmao yea easy to spam and its free mobilty doesnt make u rly work for it where as other covs u have to lol
thick reef
either night fae or kyrian is big for rbgs
nocturne radish
yea for sure
fierce elm
2 covs, if necro enduring, if kyrian EM
makes it easy
If you are Fury, signet or unhinged for necro
em for kyrian still
robust hearth
kyrian is amazing in rbgs
It's not as good as it used to it got nerfed by 25% this patch and also like I said, it bugs out sometimes and skilled.mages and hunters know how to make it where they can free themselves from the spears root
I was kyrian for a few weeks and when I swapped to necro after maxing out kyrian not even 50 renown on necro and felt a huge difference because of them big juicy executes
wicked magnet
its not about the damage in rbgs its about the control
i just got death bolted for 33k in dstance xD
robust hearth
U have 4 other classes tht handle the control issues, mainly BOOMKINS and DKS (talking about rated bgs)
Once targets r within execute range u just fleshcraft full cast, avatar+warbreaker, glory execute for them big.juicy 38k+execute crits
Maybe a sharpen bladed MS for insurance but usually they die either the 1st or 2nd execute
wooden canyon
Can i do anything against the maledict trinket as a warrior
or how do i deal with it
sharp meteor
u can reflect it before the initial channel finishes to stop it entirely
there's also bolt or fear
or leap/intervening/charging away
wooden canyon
does spell reflect really stop it entirely?
even after they started channeling?
or do i need to precast it before they begin
sharp meteor
so there's an initial windup before it starts actually channeling, i think it has to be during or before that
i tested in a duel a while back but can't remember, and i rarely get shackled now
ember rose
<:Condemn:742631092279967785> = low bench energy
Not only did condemn lower my bench but also my remaining braincells
fickle forge
does spell reflect really stop it entirely?
Stops it if you reflect before it connects and reflects any malediction on you back to the caster if done during the channel
wooden canyon
alright cool thanks! also how do you prefer to deal with the shaman's earth elemental spamming earthquake in 2s
elder wigeon
Don’t stack, otherwise there’s nothing to do
sharp meteor
accept that you might fall behind a bit early but don't concede pressure completely
then just avoid clumping as resune says
you can also drag the ele onto your teammate to break cc on the off chance the shaman is playing with something like a mage or hunter
wooden canyon
awesome, thanks for all your input
sharp meteor
oh and I think you can taunt it to stick to you
mystic barn
is whirlwind build the go for warrior
sharp meteor
hm might have potential but probably not
mystic barn
are you sure
sharp meteor
no
hushed plank
What's the site that tells you the percentiles of 2's and 3's right now I know someone posted it a couple months ago but I sadly cant find it.
sharp meteor
luduslabs/ladderdex got shut down due to lack of revenue from traffic
hushed plank
ahh darn ty anyways :/
elder wigeon
usually 1800 is about 10%
weak fable
is unhinged good as necrolord arms or is enduring blow better for arena
warped warren
enduring definitely better
weak fable
what ive seen is necrolord warr is enduring on head crit vers
kyrian is the elysian might on legs crit vers
hopefully thats pretty decent. ive seen a few running others but thats the main builds im seeing
weary gull
Does it matter what server im on if I want to start doing rated arenas?
Currently on EU Defias Brotherhood
fierce elm
nope
thick reef
Better to gear an undergeared alt fresh or grind out CP on main for passing Conquest gamble boxes?
idle oxide
Boxes imo
thick reef
Defo boxes.
pale minnow
anyone knows other discord where you can find arena partners? having a hard time in Alliance Eu getting glad without players
marble marten
Its called lfg?
elfin valve
blazing boost dot net
fickle forge
blazing boost dot net
sharp meteor
like a dozen boxes to fill out slots and maybe rng a wep then start working on individual slots
ideally mail boxes from another char
frank knoll
This, the secret to being good at WoW PvP. Stack damage modifiers and have more gear, that’s it.. no reason to think about it any further. Replace every guide with this sentence
sharp meteor
people usually run into issues with the setting up for the dmg portion
along with preventing enemy from setting up their dmg
warped warren
- A career 1200mmr warrior, probably
sharp meteor
it is funny to help a friend get like rival or duelist though and just
press everything and 2-hit somebody in the opener of like 80% of games
sharp meteor
for sure
ember rose
This, the secret to being good at WoW PvP. Stack damage modifiers and have more ...
Post cr / bench
wicked magnet
it is funny to help a friend get like rival or duelist though and just
im doing that right now and its hilarious cause im impending victory and they keep running from me and coming back and losing and rage whispering me how bad i am
sharp meteor
impending victory eh
i was wondering if that'd have potential but
bolt just so good
wicked magnet
it does if they keep running back and forth its hilarious cause i just have another 40% hp heal
- the 400% conduit from the dmg of it
im playing with a ret
sharp meteor
yeah i was wondering if like it might be useful in those super damp matchups where nobody dies until like ten minutes in
bolt probs still better at shutting down damage though
warped warren
super damp at 90% your heal is gonna be 5 hp yahoooooooo
glad compass
hey guys. i just went Necrolord after going from Kyrian. The Veteran's Repture Conduit. where do i farm it up in high lvl ?
minor vector
the covenant-specific mount rares in korthia have a chance to drop the cov conduit at 213, otherwise just get soultwining crescents and/or rift farm out death bound shards
quiet notch
hey guys. i just went Necrolord after going from Kyrian. The Veteran's Repture C...
Dene drops one if you get your hands on a castle run
Ok necro is kinda hard to get right but if all stars allign its so fucking hilarious
I pressed every button into warbreaker fear shatterthrow charge MS and oneshot a ret with 27k shatter, 14k charge 34k mortalstrike it was so hilarious xD
somber comet
WoWhead feels so lazy.
wheat jay
elder wigeon
I run 0% haste on two of my warriors
I'll be going haste next season, having a 1.5 second gcd isn't that fun
wooden canyon
haha okey, was just curious im im completly in the wrong
im losing every game vs any warlock
they are a pain
next nexus
wanna run double dps and my mate is a arms warrior, are there any decent comps?
elder wigeon
feral arms is the best by far, ret arms is also okay, enhance arms is also okay
next nexus
ill give it a go, ty for the help 😄
elder wigeon
double warrior is piss
quiet notch
uhhhm
thick reef
Any1 help out on stay prio as necro warrior doing 2s and rbgs (no 3s).
I can't seem to get a "clear" answer by looking at murloc or pvpleaderboard - some go haste, some go crit, some to mast. What should I stack and why?
I am new to this warrior alt.
Thanks in advance.
warped warren
mastery is poop
i personally like haste. gets more globals out and has better consistent pressure
while crit has that rng factor of generating alot of pressure at once, while you go make coffee inbetween globals, drink it up, get a new cup and then you can press the next button
elder wigeon
mastery isn't poop 
warped warren
is
elder wigeon
not
warped warren
is
elder wigeon
why
warped warren
is
thick reef
Heh, so not much wiser from that 😢
So a build with like vers> haste = crit > mastery would be nice you reckon? Wouldn't go zero mast, but prio others a bit higher..
thick reef
Yeah I can see kyrian being crit dependent cus of spear leggo, but wondering if things are different for necro.
quiet notch
Any1 help out on stay prio as necro warrior doing 2s and rbgs (no 3s).
I can't s...
I asked a 3k warrior yesterday and he said when the item has crit, get crit. When it has haste get that and try to avoid mastery.
thick reef
Is ppl still playing unhinged into melee cleaves? as necro
warped warren
I asked a 3k warrior yesterday and he said when the item has crit, get crit. Whe...
its more that, when an itemslot doesnt have haste, go crit in that slot
fickle forge
All the stats are fine
grand scaffold
since vers trinket set bonus is going away in 9.2 are we still gonna stack vers or its not gonna be as important as rn
scarlet barn
since vers trinket set bonus is going away in 9.2 are we still gonna stack vers ...
it will stay important
trinket set bonus stays
wooden canyon
Do you use shards of dominations in arenas? i recently got back to wow
scarlet barn
what are you on about
scarlet barn
Do you use shards of dominations in arenas? i recently got back to wow
Not really, they are nerfed in arena
If you dont have better piece than dom piece, sure use it
But shouldnt be your aim
wooden canyon
oh okey thanks @scarlet barn
worn lagoon
Any advice against lock/spriest? As ret / warrior?
We just went on spriest but I think it was the wrong call :3
grand scaffold
trinket set bonus stays
yeah it stays revamped
gonna give primary stat and stamina instead of vers
scarlet barn
look at that screenshot
scarlet barn
It shows both for now, I know it is meant to replace it but it might change till then. And no matter what, Versa is not meant to be ignored in pvp
bonus or not
grand scaffold
so its still gonna be vers in pvp 😦
scarlet barn
And why would that be bad thing
grand scaffold
its boring af
anyway
am i gonna have to recraft my kyrian lego without vers or it stays with vers
and
for double legos is it gonna be elysian might with enduring blow?
warped warren
since vers trinket set bonus is going away in 9.2 are we still gonna stack vers ...
it doesnt go away 
grand scaffold
is necro or kyrian stronger cov atm
because pins say kyrian but i see top people playing necro
elfin valve
for double legos is it gonna be elysian might with enduring blow?
I don’t think you can use two existing leggo it sounds like 1 9.1 leggo and 1 9.2 leggo
scarlet barn
I don’t think you can use two existing leggo it sounds like 1 9.1 leggo and 1 9....
It is covenant leggo and non covenant leggo
elfin valve
It is covenant leggo and non covenant leggo
Oh I thought it was covenant & new (congregation?); TIL
thick reef
its more that, when an itemslot doesnt have haste, go crit in that slot
Thanks!
thick reef
I asked a 3k warrior yesterday and he said when the item has crit, get crit. Whe...
Thanks. Haste + crit it is i guess.
wooden canyon
is there any video / stream you can recommend, preferebly with commenting and reasoning to their choices during the arena games?
ember rose
Warroid has a good series for climbing
wooden canyon
thanks @ember rose
ember rose
np
idle oxide
straight up
Oh hell yes
somber comet
slender wyvern
whats everyones preffered leggo and tree for necro warrior fancy giving it a try
sharp meteor
enduring for general use, misshapen to protect teammates from wizards, unhinged for 1-shot memes and maybe into melee cleaves, and there aren't many options as to tree just go plague deviser and the usual durability route
slender wyvern
much appreciated 🙂
wise vortex
enduring for general use, misshapen to protect teammates from wizards, unhinged ...
is battlelords not good?
stark reef
Completely new to PvP but have very solid gear from PvE (252 ilvl)
Is ilvl still always better or are lower ilvl pieces with higher verse preferrable?
I currently have 12% versatility
Also, what is a good way to get reps in solo? Are unrated BGs any good at all?
Also, warmode? Worth it for practice?
sharp meteor
Ilev is better for the most part just steam roll low mmr games to farm out conquest
Unranted bgs are fine for honor and war mode is pointless
quiet notch
Completely new to PvP but have very solid gear from PvE (252 ilvl)
Is ilvl stil...
Id highly advice you to play arena and start replacing your gear asap. In full socketed duelist gear i have around 40% vers. Warmode is a meme, you gotta play bgs if you like them or not because you need honor to upgrade your arenagear
stark reef
Yeah, I'll probably play BGs to at least get trinkets and then go into arena - low mmr should be free lunch
Just off the PvE gear - but lets say I have the choice between 246 and 252 with the lower lv. gear having high verse - should i downgrade?
sharp meteor
yeah
lower ranks of conq gear more powerful though so shouldn't take long to get pieces replaced
it's just a lot of games for 1) the conquest and 2) the honor to upgrade
least first few ranks are pretty cheap
stark reef
I assume misshapen mirror still goes on chest?
sharp meteor
yeah although gap between max ilev legendary and duelist gear is lower now
elder wigeon
3 ilvl is essentially non-existent what's more important is socket and or using a piece to get stats you can't otherwise get IE haste on helmet or gauntlets
sharp meteor
yee
there's also the expense factor because some realms have pricey leggos and not everybody wants to shell out a token
elder wigeon
yup
sharp meteor
because multiple leggos on several chars adds up real quick
stark reef
So for Kyrian or Necrolord arms - where would I put misshapen mirror?
Or is it even ever used?
soft plank
At what arena rank would you replace a heroic kt weapon with the conq one?
elder wigeon
duelist
elder wigeon
So for Kyrian or Necrolord arms - where would I put misshapen mirror?
mirror is only really ever used as necrolord, EM is still too good, but people use mirror on the chest
stark reef
Thank you!
elder wigeon
if you're playing against a comp where your spear is pretty inconsequential, mirror could be better into a caster cleave, especially against frost mages and all lock specs
but mages and locks are pretty tanky and do extreme damage right now, one reflect doesn't really help all that much, only against deathbolt/chaos bolt since it's predictable
sharp meteor
one frost bolt or ice lance against both of you is pretty reasonable
there's also catching stuff like spriest dots
tricky to get stuff on your healer though
elder wigeon
yeah if you can actually do that, spell reflect gets pinged off by anything anymore
fire mages are gross in that they can fireblast right before the poly goes off to get it no matter what
sharp meteor
yeah
elder wigeon
wizard cleaves just suck and are very unfun to play against
elder wigeon
Mage lock MW makes me cry
or MLD
frost mages do nuke tier damage and if you don't have a purge they're actually anti-melee as fuck because they're immune to stuns for 30 sec
stark reef
Based on arenamaster.io Warbringer seems to be a must have pvp talent?
elder wigeon
not generally but it is nice if you can run it
most of the time you're stuck grabbing utility talents
sharp meteor
so the thing abotu stats site is that they generally only provide what people logged out in
disarm for instance is good into other warriors rogues mm hunters etc but useless into wizards
i feel like warbringer usually isn't the play but sometimes it is
fine default pick for bgs etc
flat coral
Hello - newly trying out Venthyr - is there any change to the priority list while using Exploiter legendary? (apart from Mortal Strike every 2x Executes) Should I try and stack it with overpower stacks as well?
elder wigeon
I wouldn't try super hard to make sure everything's stacked like that but when it happens, it's a big MS usually
it's just nice consistent damage
you really don't want your MS falling and if you're full crit you're looking at a ~5.8 second cd with a 10 sec duration so there's not much time to let it fall once it's off cd
sharp meteor
You can lose so much damage trying to get everything aligned that you should've just sent it
If you're playing Venth just go Sephuz or Misshapen
hidden herald
Which cov and leggo for shadowpriest war?
sharp meteor
probably kyrian although necro is fine
EM for kyrian, probably Enduring for Necro, maybe Unhinged
thick reef
is emblem still good or trolling?
sharp meteor
i feel like emblem is only ever bad if you know you aren't going to be looked at
it's fine if there's a chance you will be and it's good if you know you will be
20 seconds of a personal rally that's also off the GCD is nice, and you don't lose much damage running it
shut lake
Hey ! Thundercleave necrolord is the way to go convenant wise ?
thick reef
whgat u mean
elder wigeon
necrolord is extremely good on its own, the damage is disgusting, but EM and kyrian still provides a ton of utility for some comps like WPS, WMP
I would actually advocate for a 50% nerf on veteran's repute and the mastery benefit from banner nerfed by 50%
thick reef
what stat is good for necro? crit or haste?
sharp meteor
yes
elder wigeon
both, most run at least 10% haste it seems
sharp meteor
yeah full crit doesn't not feel great
elder wigeon
🤔 which is it
sharp meteor
mix of both good
full haste good
full crit iffy
at least that's how it felt to me
mystic barn
full send crit
fierce elm
full send mastery
elder wigeon
full crit feels okay, full haste is probably more fun, crit is what gets you the mud clips
mystic barn
full send mastery
stormforged soon
elder wigeon
so i mean if you live off of high doses of dopamine, go crit i guess
sharp meteor
might also be one of those things where high uptime is haste
reduced uptime is crit
mystic barn
imagine the dopamine bank account not being exhausted since the early 2000s
elder wigeon
Yeah that's also true, if you have 100% uptime, haste feels insane, if no uptime, it feels terrible because it doesn't matter
thick reef
what leggo for necro, and in what slots
elder wigeon
sephuz is really nice into everything if orc, mirror is great into wizard cleaves like MLD/S or Shadowplay, enduring blow is a great dps option if you just wanna deal more damage. if going sephuz, put on chest, mirror also on chest, and if going enduring, make it on helmet
elder wigeon
glory sucks and I have no comment on battlelord
thick reef
how good is Kyrian with enduring vs elysian might? this is for 2v2 mostly
lucid walrus
EM typically better unless you play into something that laughs at spear imo
also makes spear even stronger for peel though. making something like a monk sit there for 8 seconds while you wait out SEF or something is pretty funny
thick reef
do u guys macro conqueo'r banner into anything
wheat jay
No
warped warren
I would actually advocate for a 50% nerf on veteran's repute and the mastery ben...
ye but noone asked you tho 
😂
warped warren
kyrian dogs
i would advocate for deletion of rogues
and wlocls
and boomkins
and eles
elder wigeon
warped warren
abømïnætiõn?
wheat jay
Yes
warped warren
yeah
wheat jay
yeah
fickle forge
Nerf rock
Sincerely, scissors
wheat jay
Monk breaks other rocks too
amber bison
soo i've been looking at the 3v3 arena ladder and i see most of the arms warriors going necrolord so my question is: is kyrian or necro better for warrior, monk dps and druid heal?
grand scaffold
necro better
but kyrian prob gonna be better in 9.2 with the 1 cov 1 normal lego system
use a ret instead of the monk
or a shadowpriets
priest*
amber bison
ok thx
grand scaffold
😄
fickle forge
@amber bison WW+warr is a fine comp, just play whichever cov you find the most fun there, WW like em' both
fickle forge
But if he has a friend who plays WW
Considering he specifically mentioned 3 specs, I assume that's his comp
Besides, WW+warr is more than R1 viable, it works fine
warped warren
necro fury??? 🤨
warped warren
grand scaffold
anybody know banner stacks?
i tried with another warrior got past 2.2k strength and 800 mastery
scarlet barn
mystic barn
raz gonna slap u
scarlet barn
And u too
mystic barn
👋🏿
full quiver
Why not triple necro war
wheat jay
Triple necro warr, triple unhinged
vestal ibex
RBG's - is Necro preferred over Venthyr?
vestal ibex
I knew someone would say Kyrian, damn you all 😂
Really should get my Kyrian Renown sorted
sharp meteor
Pinning several people is really good
Even pinning a single person can be great
Whereas Venth is like "i get kited so i went venthyr"
vestal ibex
I do like the simplicity and brain-dead playstyle of Condemn Warrior
(I'm a recovering Havoc DH)
sharp meteor
o relatable
crude oracle
Any tips as warr/resto shaman vs hunter/priest? Hunter out damages me and kites better... And priest somehow doesn't go down
sharp meteor
i usually just pve the priest and they're dead 2-3 minutes in
trade stuff early into bestial wrath
can also run reflect if necro
crude oracle
Haha okay, felt like hunter free casting on me was killing us faster
sharp meteor
wym free casting u hitting him won't stop his damage aside from storm bolt
fear on bestial or trap is decent value tho
just cycle through stuff better/earlier
also earth shield leggo good
but dstance during bestial + PI can be fine then swap battle when they don't have bestial
arms/x vs bm/priest feels super free
thick reef
when and how do u use conqueor's banner?
sharp meteor
more or less the same way you use any other damage modifier
stacked with others while maximizing uptime
fierce elm
Stack it with WB 2nd time
or rather
stack it with WB mostly everytime
unless you are doing some strat of baiting disarm with WB
grand scaffold
av wb banner
then wb
then av wb
then wb banner
buffs before dmg buttons
if the enemy doesnt have defensives lined up for you next banner
save all 3 and use them at 1 go
omni bar very useful
stable dirge
To get pvp gear. I’m guessing I need to do a ton of pvp? Is the honor currency new to shadowlands? Or was it in BFA?
sharp meteor
Yes.
Both for the initial conquest to get the gear then the honor to upgrade it.
Efficient if you capped weekly but catching up it's a bit of a drag.
thick reef
Should I use 249 pvp helm over this? If not, what dom shard is the best to use in pvp?
full quiver
Should I use 249 pvp helm over this? If not, what dom shard is the best to use i...
pvp gear
thick reef
Guys, how does the massive Shattering Throw damage work?
wicked magnet
@past vapor you ever figure out how massive shat throw dmg works?
sharp meteor
sometimes it only breaks the shield
sometimes it punches through and kills them
threw my toothpick at some lock at 70% with a 50k+ shield up and he died idk how anything works
quasi lotus
modifiers on your shattering
are unaffected by the shattering limitations of shields only
proven pine
Are there any streamers playing ret/warr/x that I could check out for VODs? My friends and I have been really struggling at 1900 rating for a week now and I’d want to study better players. We especially struggle against virtually all Lock comps and have no clue how to play them beyond ”hope the lock forgets to press defensives when we burst”
sharp meteor
hit spriest they can't kite as well
fickle forge
Are there any streamers playing ret/warr/x that I could check out for VODs? My f...
@elfin surge
proven pine
He hasn’t streamed in a week and mostly just plays viewer 2s
Do his older vods have 3s gameplay with a ret?
fickle forge
He should still have some 3s gameplay somewhere
thick reef
his yt channel has a few ret/warr/rsham games on it
elfin surge
<@!269709440146604032>
fickle forge
elfin surge
his yt channel has a few ret/warr/rsham games on it
@proven pine this
wooden canyon
If i intervene my healer, i will get kicked right? if they try to kick my healer? which classes is it effective against or useless against. To give my healer a breather during heavy damage, and bait kicks
sharp meteor
yes if it's a physical kick
so rogue warrior monk etc
whereas dk dh warlock mage etc are magical and will go through
helpful if caster/healer teammats have weakaura to show intervene duration
as it's fairly short now
wooden canyon
oh cool, i didnt even know it worked that way until a few minutes ago
thick reef
KEVIN'S OOZELING, does this summon an actual controllable pet
or its like bron, uncontrollable
fluid lichen
what best lego?
can i be rival with night fae?
sharp meteor
i have seen at least two warriors playing nf above glad range so yeah
and the oozeling is like bron it just puts a dmg debuff on stuff
thick reef
ULTIMATE FORM
While channeling Fleshcraft, you are immune to crowd control and you regenerate 2% health every 1 sec. If you finish the full channel, you gain 3 sec of crowd control immunity, during which you regenerate 2% health every 1 sec.
is it still interruptable?
sharp meteor
and yeah can still be kicked on flesh
it's immunity to cc knocks etc
so if they kick your healer or something you can channel flesh for free
or use to immune a clone/poly or stormbolt etc
mystic barn
what best lego?
can i be rival with night fae?
Leaper
full quiver
Yeah bounding strides, double time, and leaper is a good combo
fluid lichen
thx
thick reef
when I activate warmode, my gear swaps to pvp item lvl right? what if i go into maw/korthia etc to quest while in warmode, am i questing with pve item level, or pvp?
ember rose
Pve item ilvl i think, pvp gear actives when u enter pvp combat
wicked magnet
when I activate warmode, my gear swaps to pvp item lvl right? what if i go into...
pvp ilvl, as long as you are in warmode
stark reef
Do you guys have any recommendations on finding a healer for 2s. By far the hardest part of playing rated arenas
stark reef
I went from 0 to 1.5k in 21 games, so far so good. Farming honor in skirmishes right now
RIP
lucid walrus
you alliance or horde?
stark reef
Horde
lucid walrus
you're on the preferred side of LFG then
it just gets kinda tricky to find heals when pushing if you don't have okay xp
stark reef
Probably better to play with friends to 1.8k or 2k before using lfg
Because otherwise my drywall looks like swizz cheese in a week
lucid walrus
it's no secret that 2k players aren't the best but all i'm saying is i've seen a lot more backpeddlers than usual
sharp meteor
everybody at 2.1k rn is fkn awful
grab an rsham or rdruid and collect free rating
then enjoy the 100k honor grind for upgraades
ur allowed to have fun after finishing that
lucid walrus
literally just been afk pondering the orb in ashran to get both warrs their 259 crit sword lmao
sharp meteor
i want all the weps cos seasonal
lucid walrus
ditto
stark reef
It put me in 1.9k rated games with 0 games played because duo was 2.1k - games were completely free
Just adding hamstring to PvE rotation
I guess around 2k I hit a wall with PvE gear where the verse just is too much
sharp meteor
yeah now it's just
gear grind
cr in one bracket probably 2s then farm low mmr 3s for fast conq/honor
pop into a daily bg whenever u can if possible for the win bonus
stark reef
That 60 conquest is daily?
sharp meteor
so first win of the day in any bracket is extra rewards
which makes the most efficient thing to do everything once if possible
daily bg win, daily epic bg win, daily rbg win
lucid walrus
3s give a shitload as well
if your cr is still ratty there then it'll also be easy to replace some slots
wheat tangle
sharp meteor
existence is torment
warped warren
this isnt lfg lmeow
hushed bridge
hi. im new to PvP with 250ish ilvl from mytic. i have around 8k of honor and 300ish of conquest.
should i just buy the remove character control trinket with honor or just farm more conquest?
scarlet barn
Trinket should be one of your purchases for sure, if you buy it with honor at lower ilvl or with conquest doesnt matter. The thing you should focus on most is replacing items from pve that dont have good pvp stats first
Or ones that are lower ilvl and start upgrading them
shut barn
allways upgrade weapon first u can have honor medalion
runic pollen
What you prefer for 3s necro or kyrian? I play most time lfg with my war. I was venth for 2 all the time but now i wanns also q 3s😊
stark reef
It definitely depends on the comp and your role in it. Necro has the burst potential and Kyrian has the utility where you can set up offensively or peel for your team-mates.
I’d say Kyrian in 3s should have more applications but that’s really just because spear has broader application.
And the higher you climb the more narrow the meta will be and maybe at the top it is to set up a necro warrior to insta-gib someone. I am the wrong person to ask there.
I’d definitely check arenamaster.io and see what highest rated wars in 3s play but also keep in mind that that’s specific to that bracket.
wicked magnet
hi. im new to PvP with 250ish ilvl from mytic. i have around 8k of honor and 300...
theirs an heirloom one too
no set bonus though i dont think
warped warren
buy with honor
wary frigate
hey guys. whats the meta rn for arms/ret/rdruid? is it necro for arms and kyrian for ret?
analog warren
necro for playing with ret
sharp meteor
necro warr, kyrian or maybe necro ret depending on what you're queuing into? in general probably kyrian though