yeah pretty much
#pvp
elder wigeon
vestal ibex
So with their nerfs, have the devs basically just missed the overall problem
Which is the combination
warped warren
surprised frost isnt higher up
quasi lotus
Well no because you can still successfully nerf the combination by lowering numbers on parts of it
vestal ibex
Sorry yeah what I meant was whatever is causing the multipliers
quasi lotus
But then you get the problem where unskilled players think monk is dogshit because their buttons dont do any damage alone
elder wigeon
if I touch a frost mage I literally cut them in half, but I know frost mage will become more meta as time goes on
quasi lotus
And good monk players still 1 shot
warped warren
problem is there are too many multipliers
not the individual mulitpliers in themselves
vestal ibex
Speaking of how shit is broken - how do we think the incoming nightmare balancing of dual legendaries will go 😂
fierce elm
like the rest of shadowlands
elder wigeon
terribly, biggest winners are Demo locks honestly
warped warren
what does demo have
vestal ibex
I hope I won't be pulled away from being Necro Warr - I can see Kyrian pulling ahead
elder wigeon
demo locks after 4 shadow bolts and a decimating bolt is a instant cast unpurgable 1 tap
vestal ibex
Reckon Necro will still be 2nd best or will Venthyr make a revival
elder wigeon
I don't wanna lose phial
fierce elm
Have fun having a useless leggo as Necro l m a o
fierce elm
It will be Kyrian > all
wheat jay
necro being necro is another
quasi lotus
Have fun having a useless leggo as Necro l m a o
Did you not literally make it already tho kek
quasi lotus
Ahh no balls
wheat jay
xD
elder wigeon
being able to run EM with unhinged will be a lot of fun for sure, but in reality I'll be using EM with mirror or sephuz a lot more
fierce elm
EM+Anything
elder wigeon
yup
quasi lotus
I said warrior wouldn't use any fancy combinations. You'd just always play mirror + your normal leggo
Instead of choosing each game
Well as kyrian
Anyway
grand scaffold
why mirror
quasi lotus
Why would you not
grand scaffold
yea
elder wigeon
Jungle actually
quasi lotus
Mirror EM probably better default than unhinged em in most matchups tho
elder wigeon
can reflect clones offensively, traps very opportunistically, and reflect mindgames/maledict
grand scaffold
why unhinged instead of BL
warped warren
condemn tickles man
?
watched heaven play venthyr last night
hitting pretty hard
elder wigeon
I felt like I was doing no damage
warped warren
quasi lotus
why unhinged instead of BL
Bl is dogshit dont @ me
warped warren
false
grand scaffold
what
warped warren
WRONG
fierce elm
BL is wack
quasi lotus
BL is noodle tier
grand scaffold
why
fierce elm
because 50% uptime on colossus smash > battlelord
quasi lotus
If you wanna play full send double damage leggo Kyrian at least go enduring and em or something
fierce elm
EM > battlelord
quasi lotus
Fuck Bl
fierce elm
Mirror > battlelord
elder wigeon
I don't like BL unless full crit build
grand scaffold
are we gonna craft unhinged on hands then?
elder wigeon
where else can you put it?
grand scaffold
with crit or haste
elder wigeon
prob crit for double crit vers
grand scaffold
yea
elder wigeon
I play full crit/mastery as kyrian
elder wigeon
hmm yeah I mean he's hitting a lot harder than I was, but I also exclusively played into rogues, warriors and WW's and not having spear felt disgusting because disarm is inevitable
felt more rage starved than ever, which isn't a fun feeling
this guy is also just shitting on 1800 players
scarlet barn
or you can do hand for haste
if it wont mess with pvp tier set though
young stump
Hey guys
what stats do fury warriors need to prioritize for pvp
i just hit 60 and im buying a full pvp set
young stump
tyvm
elfin valve
ye damn sinfall is the best of all 4 bases
but you can fly in Elys
dry trail
LFR SOD gives renown ?
scarlet barn
Yea
dry trail
im gonna spam dat shit then
shy aurora
Random HC dungeons give renown aswel
wheat jay
just spam torghast 9
hybrid solstice
hey all, had a quick question regarding arena + soulbinds, checked the guide, why do people prefer pelagos over mikanikos? mikanikos final ability seems MUCH better than pelagos
hybrid solstice
ah i the icyveins guide out of date then? gotcha
sharp meteor
so the ghost proc lasts a while, and then you get it ant he buff is up for a decent time
if you get that then align it with spear and its mastery buff then you in decent shape and i can actually see taht being good
kleia is just consistent damage and the bleed immunity thing
then mika auto stun and more spears
idk they all dece i think
hybrid solstice
thanks ❤️
fierce elm
Pelagos is actually so doo doo compared to Mik/Kleia
The only comps you dont go Mik into are Mindgames comps pretty much
And caster comps
dry trail
enduring blow for necrolords my dudes ? helmet or belt ?
sharp meteor
so i think that helmet is the play due to lack of haste conq helm and the helm having a slightly higher stat budget
but that's operating under the assumption you want haste, which i think you do
dry trail
i will craft it haste / versa cause i have like 25% crit
sharp meteor
haste/vers enduring just solid pickup in general
dry trail
if i get above 8% haste it's playable
sharp meteor
dang that's a lot of crit
sharp meteor
yeah that's reasonable
at the end of the day i think it'd make minor difference
i wanted duelist on my hunter but didn't wanna pay 90-150k for 262 chest so did it with a 700g 210 one
was like 1% dmg of stats or something
lucid walrus
no way the gap’s that small right
highest stat budget piece w/ a 50 ilvl diff. then again it’s only 1 piece
sharp meteor
it kind of compounds bigly in pvp
lets say you're doing 5% dmg with 5% less health
suddenly you're more susceptible to being forced to use a defensive
or aren't doing enough to reach that threshold to force a cd
idle oxide
enduring blow for necrolords my dudes ? helmet or belt ?
Is EB much stronger than Battlelords for Necro?
sharp meteor
and oyu fall behind macro wise
but i have a friend who asked what he had to do in 9.1 and i said cinders and korthia are cringe just q and he finished glad with 235 leggo and 200 conduits
dry trail
Is EB much stronger than Battlelords for Necro?
EB yes i have a 235 battlelord it's meh
lucid walrus
but i have a friend who asked what he had to do in 9.1 and i said cinders and ko...
jesus
slender wyvern
might be a dumb question but can anyone tell me what comps are good in 3s?
lucid walrus
quicker to list what isn’t tbh. we play with almost anything
slender wyvern
another dumb question tsg?
quasi lotus
DK + Warr
sharp meteor
honestly arms is one of the most versatile specs and i think i have seen them played with everything except like rogue
fierce elm
Outlaw warr dream
lilac igloo
Anyone having problem with banner + avatar macro ? It works outside of arenas, not inside, my banner doesn't go off
no matter how much I press it
sharp meteor
idk but bind them independently
lilac igloo
I did now but it's sad 😦
sharp meteor
not as sad as when u use them together and get rooted
hushed plank
@lilac igloo MS issue bud notice how in some of your arenas you don’t have an issue and other times it does
@sharp meteor get rooted and watch your heals just look at you instead of dispelling 😂
sharp meteor
all offensive cds at once is fine just need to properly set up for it
or sometimes hold off on one, like avatar to break a root that you know is headed your way and save your bs or healers dispel
ember rose
U should never press all cds like swifty
How else is my oneshot-macro supposed to work
wet scarab
Do any of you use the piercing verdict conduit? With Mikanikos the only way you get 3 potency conduits to use it with MS and OP is to lose the near death stun for the reduced stun after standing still.
It seems like it would scale nicely with the Mikanikos tree ability for arcane damage and would be good pressure
But it is trading a defensive proc for an offensive one
wet scarab
When wouldn’t you need it? Caster matchups?
sharp meteor
when I'm not scared of getting turned to and dying instantly
which is most stuff that isn't retwarr/rm
sharp meteor
like it's good into general into stuff that'll setup up on you and has 2 targets in melee range, like turbo
as it can completely scuff their go
simple rock
r1 shaman gets stuck and makes my rift farm group disband 
sharp meteor
ahahahhaah
thick reef
lmaoo
gloomy warren
as necro arms, im absolutely loving my warrior, made the swap from venthyr not long ago after lvling and it feels so much better, using painbringer, i noticed looking around i sometimes see ppl using the +duration team spell reflect leggo, and unhinged, which look fun too for variety. Does anyone use em all and swap around in diff circumstances? unhinged especially looks like it would be good esp if it stacks with mortal blow and sharpen blade. Just curious if anyone's messed with em all
elder wigeon
nobody really uses unhinged in 3v3 anymore as mirror or another damage legendary is better, or even sephuz
and yes, you want to swap legendary based on comp
gloomy warren
so just mirror and painbringer only?
i was hoping unhinged would proc mortol blow conduit and give some insane burst but i guess not
elder wigeon
sephuz is also very useful too if orc
yes unhinged can proc it, unhinged is just not that great overall
plain island
looking for a pvp guild to join does anyone have an active pvp guild to join?
gloomy warren
for some reason i thought sephuz didnt stack w orc
looking here is what made me curious about unhinged;
sharp meteor
yeah mortal strikes from unhinged are basically as if you pressed mortal strike yourself
they consume overpower/sharpen buffs and can mortal combo
then of course they also sweep
simple rock
when both unhinged ms proc mortal combo 
I think i've only seen that a couple times though
and it mortal combo might have internal cd now? idr if they changed it
sharp meteor
there's some icd i thought yeah
not sure if it's lengthy like a few seconds or just long enough to keep it from proccing off itself
gloomy warren
and still after all that the dmg isnt as good or better than painbringer? hmm, surprised tbh
wet scarab
yikes there are like 5 arena LFG people on alliance right now
gloomy warren
yeah, the fact that lf pvp is harder than playing pvp is why imma bounce to lost ark when it hits, tbh. sadge.
was doing fine on ally side, got 2 dps to rival II, not great but good for me, but still had issues spending more time lfg than actually playing, by far. Tried horde side too, not much better tbh. I think its either tough it out or play a healer.
wet scarab
on horde the last few days I was never in queue longer than 2 or 3 mins even in the middle of the day
lucid walrus
not sure if it's lengthy like a few seconds or just long enough to keep it from ...
believe it's 3
gloomy warren
This was funny; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgIYHYn3AvA&ab_channel=anboniwow
sharp meteor
wow that's actually so good
weary gull
Returning player here, could somebody please post screenshot of good kyrian soulbind setup to go for in 2v2 as an arms warrior.
And if at all possible a short explanation as to why. I looked at the guides, but they seem to clash with a lot of posts I have been reading. Maybe slightly outdated?
elder wigeon
a lot of differing opinions
there is no perfect answer, just preferences
I play mikanikos into everything other than feral and assassination comps, that's when I play kleia
and I play kleia for ascendant phial and hope springs eternal
weary gull
Thanx, may I ask what makes them better than good old Pelagos?
Sorry, I have not played in a looong time so just trying to get as much info as possible
elder wigeon
shortened spear CD with mikanikos because you only play EM as well as auto-proc stun against RMX/melee cleaves
you can phial for someone with kleia and pelagos has been nerfed many times, it's just not as good as it used to be
weary gull
Awesome thanks
mortal marlin
elysian might still bis for pvp?
elder wigeon
Yes
jaunty furnace
Is the arena ladder even active anymore? feel like most of the biggest players have quit
fierce elm
its ok
sharp meteor
So we're at (and a little bit beyond) the point where most people are done with the season
Wish there were more incentives to play alts like class elite sets, elite sets not being completely free, glad not being acc wide etc but here we are
dense ruin
anybody got any tips for Arms/rSham vs DH/rDruid in 2s?
dry trail
sit dh swap when hots
full quiver
One shot DH in opener lol
shy aurora
I noticed almost everyone got the two hand conquest axe with versa-mastery. But isnt the sword with crit-versa better?
mental fossil
I noticed almost everyone got the two hand conquest axe with versa-mastery. But ...
afaik, sword was added later on (9.1.5?), and thus the axe being the only option, people bought that
simple rock
I would get the sword but it's 1800 conquest and a bajillion honor to upgrade
conquest which i'd rather use on alt boxes
crude oracle
Returning player first time playing shadowlands, sorry for some maybe unrelated questions, got to lvl 60 today but still not at the point of getting to choose my covenant. I guess I have to finish all the campaign quests? And which one is preferred for 2v2 (with rshaman)? Venthyr looks pretty cool with the added mobility and improved execute. I'd be happy for any tips and tricks!
sharp meteor
when u quest through sl u try all four covenants and pick one at the end
venth necro and kyrian are all fine
sweet gorge
elder wigeon
Nah, definitely think it's enduring from a dps legendary, but honestly I like sephuz as orc
obviously you'll be running mirror a lot
elder wigeon
I don't control that, and is not the consensus in the warrior community
nobody really curates this channel
scarlet barn
after the great purge
glad sage
Is Jaithys any good in pvp?
steep inlet
:/
elder wigeon
Is Jaithys any good in pvp?
259 rank 5 yes
lunar stump
any warriors on EU Horde who are down for 3s? already got a healer. we are around 2.6cr
thick reef
so i get full elite set mog at 1800, but the matching 2h sword mog will not be unlocked until 2100?
sharp meteor
Yeah, duelist is unique weapon tint
like 15-20k honor per wep appearance if you feel like collecting multiple heh
elder wigeon
or get lucky from the vault
simple rock
why can I not see peoples spec in lfg
sharp meteor
u can see role
simple rock
I think my lfg borken
wet scarab
is it just me or does kleia seem to have a lot of really great pvp oriented soulbind abilities? I've only really played mikanikos but things like the shield seem like they'd be op? does it work like a necro shield?
bearer's pursuit also seems really good for kiting classes. Is it dispellable?
wicked magnet
Huh what shield?
Bearers pursuit is low proc chance
Oh cleansing rites? It helps a little it doesn't reset it's absorb though so if your running around outdoors and mobs take your shield to 100hp it stays at 100hp unless you remove the buff and let it rebuild
scenic pecan
is fury at all viable in pvp?
scarlet barn
Viable? To extent
Realistically you can get pretty high with it but at that point , why not just play arms
vestal ibex
is fury at all viable in pvp?
Real question is why play Fury instead of Arms... And then, why play Fury instead of DH 😂
Arms just does it all better
Only real valid excuse for playing Fury is "I like it"
In terms of performance it's just out-done by Arms
hasty fractal
Hi all, I've been Venthyr all shadowlands and it has really underperformed in 9.1 (in both pve/pvp, fucking Blizzard). But I finally have all my venthyr convenant achievements/mogs done and I want to switch for better performance in rated. I'm at 1967 in rbgs and just started 2's at 1641. I want to push 2100. In 9.1.5 Kyrian with Elysian still my best option? Or Enduring Blow after the EM nerf? I notice the leaderboards have a pretty even split between Kyrian/Necro. Thanks all.
runic cape
agile eagle
Hi all, I've been Venthyr all shadowlands and it has really underperformed in 9....
Venthyr is bad? I’ll be honest I’m leveling my warrior to 60 now I’m loving it, e
Without the lego even it’s so mobile,, tons of extra dmg, I can’t see it being bad in 2s/3s, could you explain what makes it underperforming? I mean I see why kryian is better for setup based kills and control but the mobility and dmg with condemn I could see being super good for overall uptime in 2s/3s.
hasty fractal
Venthyr is bad? I’ll be honest I’m leveling my warrior to 60 now I’m loving it, ...
If you look at the pvp leaderboards for arms https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/pvp/warrior/arms#covenants only 7% are venthyr. Like I said, I've been venthyr ALL of Shadowlands so far: mythic raiding, KSM, rated and random pvp. It has been mediocre in 9.1 in everything. Condemn just doesn't hit hard enough. Pretty sure it's holding me back from higher rating in rated pvp.\
fickle forge
@hasty fractal Venthyr warrs are still 2.7k+ rn, you're lacking fundamental skills, not a better covenant. If you love venthyr, there's no reason not to stick with it, if your goal is simply 2.1k.
agile eagle
Okay this is kinda what I figured I figure in 3s you’d want more team oriented covenant abilities for setup kills. In 2s I figured more uptime would be better.
hasty fractal
<@220190122665181186> Venthyr warrs are still 2.7k+ rn, you're lacking fundament...
Outliers, in rbgs, there are 6 venthyr wars above me (I'm at 1965) and only 2 above 2100. If 6 warriors are venthyr and 94 are kyrian/necro, that is not an argument for venthyr viability. And I know all about the fun of being venthyr, that is ALL I've played in Shadowlands.
quasi lotus
No one plays RBGs so looking sample size there is pretty abysmal
sharp meteor
condemn doesn't really scale well in bgs
pinning five people, a healer or fc in a bad spot is just too good
venth seems okayish in arena tho
fickle forge
Outliers, in rbgs, there are 6 venthyr wars above me (I'm at 1965) and only 2 ab...
RBG meta is kind of meh, the bracket is also big time dead this season I believe.
If you find Venthyr fun, just stick with it and push 2.1k in arena
hasty fractal
No one plays RBGs so looking sample size there is pretty abysmal
I play rbgs, but looking at the arena ladders it's the same story, most are kyrian/necro. Venthyr are outliers. I do find venthyr fun, but I also want 2100 gear (I do world pvp, random pvp, and I DO rbgs and the rbg bracket is fucked, at 1900+ rating you find most players have 2100 gear they got in arenas, my team are weirdos who almost only do rbgs).
fierce elm
You can hit 2100 as venthyr and should be able to do it without issue with enough skill
quasi lotus
Yeah most are Kyrian and Necro because they are slightly better than Venthyr right now
Due to armour / execute changes in 9.1
fierce elm
They may be outliers because Necro/Kyrian is clearly the better choice
quasi lotus
However being Venthyr will absolutely not stop you from 2.1
or even make it particularly difficult
source: am venthyr doolist
and I don't even play this game
Play with R druid. Press Sweeping Strikes and Condemn when the druid thorns you
Watch hunter and pet die at same time
hasty fractal
They may be outliers because Necro/Kyrian is clearly the better choice
That is my point, exceptions prove the rule. I don't want to debate venthyr viability, I want confirmation on the current 9.1.5 best arena/rbg choice.
fierce elm
If we are looking at absolute top performance fuck your own enjoyment. Then yes
Its Kyrian > Necro > Venthyr > NF
in its purest form
sharp meteor
kyrian/necro > venth/nf
but venth fine in arena for elite/glad
like i queued into venth warr playing with a havoc at like 2700ish
just go grab an rdruid and gas pedal idiots to 2100 2s for bigly gear
if u wanna fuck on hunter teams extra hard run misshapen mirror
quasi lotus
just go grab an rdruid and gas pedal idiots to 2100 2s for bigly gear
how could you say something so controversial yet so brave and true
mystic barn
u don’t need a covenant to get gladiator as warrior fyi
sharp meteor
actually tho lmao
the only thing I'd miss are the conduits
yeah im almost done with my necro
quasi lotus
we've all been there
sharp meteor
might push as vulp or panda on night fae
quasi lotus
randomly aftershock blasted
sharp meteor
with the pixie set
mystic barn
we've all been there
not me
hasty fractal
I just started 2's this season, so I'm not stuck at 1641 🙂 I do prefer rbgs, but it's fucked atm. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/ustadbaba
mystic barn
20k hit is nothing now
fickle forge
If you're not stuck, then why do you say you're held back?
sharp meteor
my fellow achievement collector of tastes most refined
seriously tho just queue 2s for duelist
scarlet barn
Hey I collect all transmogs too 👀
hasty fractal
If you're not stuck, then why do you say you're held back?
This is a prediction based on the ladders. I am assuming I could climb more easily as kyrian/necro (and personally, I'd rather do kyrian over necro).
fickle forge
You probably would, we're not here to tell you not to go play meta
But you're not held back by being venthyr and can easily attain 2.1k with it
That's all really
If you think you're better off with kyrian or necro, then just swap to those
sharp meteor
i mean maybe yeah
you can freely swap now
skip to 40 renown, play for an afternoon and boom you're 55-60 which is the whole tree minus conduit empowerments
mystic barn
idk not everyone is cut out for 2100 in 2s..
sharp meteor
there's like bm hunters who don't trap, wws who don't set port and warriors who w key one guy all game and parry off cd idk 2100 feels kind of free
mystic barn
u know what’s nice
I only had one warrior in the past 50 2s games
It truely is caster meta
sharp meteor
actually queuing into so many hybrid teams it's annoying
they slip away for one second and top themselves
mystic barn
it’s time to rejoice
sharp meteor
so naturally bm is countered by rdruids healing style and i like tuneling them to get them to hot/bark themselves then swapping dps
hasty fractal
Back to Kyrian question then, for 9.1.5 is Elysian Might still the goto, or Enduring Blows?
sharp meteor
might if u think u can get good spear value so 90-95% of situations
if they can peel it or you aren't sure then enduring is decent fallback
like i have just played enduring into shadow and used spear to bait fade then my enh doom winds all over their face
quasi lotus
you should have both + mirror ready for 2s really
sharp meteor
you could probably just craft big spear and play that every game
I'm sure it's the only thing you'd really want in rbgs now that you can't swap gear in there
wicked magnet
i met a priest today in pvp that thought mind soothe worked in pvp, hes like spamming it on range thinking its attack range rather that aggro radius xD
i can see how they would be confused about that though "reducing the range at which it will attack you by 10 yards"
quiet relic
wicked magnet
yeah im taking him to arena and gearing him up now he was upgrading the normal honor pvp equipment
rocky trail
guys what build or where can i find a good guide for arms pvp season 2?
mortal marlin
for conq weapon what should i get greataxe or greatsword?
sharp meteor
operating under the assumption that crit is better I'd go with the sword
mortal marlin
running with an enhance in 2s do you think i should run kyrian or necro?
sharp meteor
maldraxxus arena lets goooo
also necro durability goes a long way with double dps
but being able to pin somebody in shaman cds is also big idk
keen stone
boys is top end dmg relevent / better? im getting a 2nd 2h have the axe however was going to get sword for mog etc and fury however noticed the top end dmg dif
elder wigeon
I don't think so
marsh wharf
ik its probably listed somewhere but if im running necro what soulbind is "meta"
elder wigeon
but I'm not gonna shill the sword, I haven't used it yet because I don't play haste
merilith @marsh wharf
marsh wharf
ty
elder wigeon
you'd think that until you realize you get 6% increased dmg for 40 sec when you banner from kevin, and 120 mastery 24/7 as well as all the defensive perks like ooze
fierce elm
And that below 35% you are msot likely just gonna end someones life
sharp meteor
it's just nice in general
kicks go out, you get to channel a big shield while taking reduced dam
mystic barn
iirc the execute portion of bonesmith is bad due to the dmg resetting itself a ton
marsh wharf
the more i play kyrian the worse spear feels
full quiver
Spear feels goooooood
sharp meteor
people blinking out of it sure doesn't
scarlet barn
Frankly
pastel garden
Feels great when it works. Feels amazing when a hunter feigns or priest g fades right before you spear. Feelsbadman when you swore you tethered someone but they still run off to africa anyway.
thick reef
which covenant is best for 2s in your opinion?
grave oriole
Venthyr with leaper lego is fun.
marsh wharf
does necro run the class legendary or EB?
sharp meteor
EB is kind of the default or single-target damage pick I think
if by class you meant covenant I think glory is the last one I'd play
mortal marlin
can you pre sharpen before arena starts?
sharp meteor
yes although idk why you'd want to do that
mortal marlin
playing 2s and 1shotting ppl
proven pine
You can just sharpen when you set up your kill
mortal marlin
true, im still fairly new to warrior.
sterile bane
Are warriors pretty good at 1 shorting people I’m literally leveling a warrior just for pvp lol
They wrecked me more then any other class when I played my shaman for fun
Never did the serious stuff just from YouTube and word of mouth warriors are very op pvp
elder wigeon
sharpen doesn't go on cooldown until it's used, it's bad to sharpen without intent
thick reef
hey guys queing ret/warr/disc we climbing a bit only thing is ret is dieing but im intervening him as much as possbile, using rally serprate from bubble usally, fearing to pell and disarming and stuff, Do i need to peel better with other stuff or is it on the ret?
we hoj/sb on cooldown right so we always line hoj and sb
young stump
any pvp guilds?
visual plover
@thick reef that sounds to me like the ret needs to learn to kite with his/her healer
@thick reef harder than it looks but will save tons of games
sharp meteor
So it's a bit of a team effort to cycle through stuff in response to enemy CDs and damage in general
ideally you want to communicate ahead of time as to what you'll be using to avoid too many heat of the moment overlaps
snow wolf
was haste break point for arms 16 or 18%
elder wigeon
No it doesn't, tertiary stats like speed can only come from enchantments or gems
lucid walrus
was haste break point for arms 16 or 18%
we don't have one
snow wolf
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scarlet barn
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calm umbra
Wich covenant is the way to go? Im kyrian with kyrian leggo but i see now a lot of warriors running necro
snow wolf
Whichever u want kyrians more consistant necros bigger slaps randomly
necros better buffing ret or ww etc kyrian works with all comps quite good
pastel garden
Depends on 2s and 3s too. Like I prefer being Kyrian in 2s over 3s for example. But yeah both work.
thick reef
hmm can some1 link a macro pvp list for arms?
late reponse but ty self warrior and whynot for the tips ill make sure to tell my ret that and to coordinate defensives!
mental knoll
unhinged, enduring blow, or battlelord for necrolord arms?
sharp meteor
depends
scarlet barn
EB or Misshapen
sharp meteor
actually not sure how battlelord compaares to eb
mental knoll
i guess more bg oriented
nocturne radish
yea unhinged more bg tbh
shut barn
how to win vs bm hunters
sharp meteor
what cov and comp fren
wet scarab
what missives are you guys using for your pvp legendaries?
crit and vers if kyrian, haste and vers for others?
sharp meteor
crit vers for big spear legendary vers haste for everything else yeah
although honestly a mix of both for most things feels nicest
full crit makes disarms duels bolts and rallies feel super sketch
wet scarab
fair
shut barn
what cov and comp fren
kyrian hpal
im kyrian aswell
like im in def stance and they deal 3x more damage than me
feign every spear
sharp meteor
hm hpal healing profile not ideal especially if they have an rdruid
running healer down is an option especially if they don't have an rdruid
wet scarab
most frustrating game I ever played was hpal frost mage
shut barn
yea most of the time there is rdruid behind them
any almost every my hpal is oom after 3 mins
wet scarab
I dunno this mage hpal team, I couldn't connect to either for like 10 mins before dying of dampening
very excited to try out misshapen mirror on caster teams, finally farmed torghast to make it
slender wyvern
can anyone share a mikanos soulbind tree with me please ^^
lucid walrus
here's mine. considered dropping rally conduit for piercing howl so i can go endurance on last bind
also wouldn't take this as gospel
pale minnow
I play rbgs, but looking at the arena ladders it's the same story, most are kyri...
I got my 2.1 in this season as fury venthyr
In 2v2
If you want some good streamer doing 2s with venthyr i suggest you good ol' joefernandes he is playing 2.2 cr only to boost people to duelist
wicked magnet
ewww look at all this venthyr talk
garbage soulbinds, hate it, think its a terrible idea...not sure about fury but hate it for arms
warped warren
ok
wicked magnet
oh my bad i was reading chat from yesterday 🤦♂️
hasty fractal
So I am Kyrian now, got 262 Greaves, got renown up to 66 so far. So what class abilities can escape the spear?
sharp meteor
Most notably are probably Hunters with craven and Warlocks (or their teammates) with gate (not port)
there's also cloak of shadows and death's advance
lucid walrus
DK mobility cds, bop/freedom, shaman with grace & fleshcraft channel
thick reef
CANT MONK bug it too?
sharp meteor
So the way I think it works is that the pull has a short ICD, like a fraction of a second. If you can proc the pull then blink/port it'll let you out.
lucid walrus
most classes like mage can. also doable with soulshape
sharp meteor
This applies to monk port, mage shimmer, lock port, rogue step, etc.
thick reef
ah yea
elder wigeon
Druids can get out of it too with their travel form leap and bear charge
sharp meteor
Oh right any charge too
My enh can jump out of it with feral lunge or w/e
Not the most reliable thing tho
elder wigeon
I tried with actual charge and it wasn’t working though
I tried intervene as well, same result
glacial tree
As a venthyr warrior in 2s should i be using enduring blow lego or keep to my exploiter?
elder wigeon
test both, see how you feel, both are good
glacial tree
Battlelord seems good to for venthyr
elder wigeon
yeah, felt decent
glacial tree
Plus you can use rend for big mortal strike crits which can be often due to battlelord
Hmmmmm so many options but i might go battlelord
gaunt dune
Guys the new sword Is better ?
gaunt dune
But you'll want to go vers crit if you're arms
mmm no, currently I have rival gear I, I am still taking my improvements, I have many doubts but I want to see if I can reach 2100, it is my first season xD, I have the ax, will it be worth replacing it with the sword?
weary gull
BG spam best way to start gearing fresh 60 arms warrior?
idle oxide
Battlelord seems good to for venthyr
Battlelord felt the worst for me on Venthyr. I run exploiter for ventyr, EB for everything else now. Only time I run Elysium on Kyrian is if it is vs class that cant escape my spear. Other than that, I run EB and use spear to bait cd's, then after their CD's down I just Warbreaker, Avatar, kill... Orc Smash.
And For RBG I run necro EB, and when I tank I run Leaper on Necro. Necro Warr Tank with Leaper is so damn underrated in RBG...
scarlet barn
Battlelord for venthyr is definitely yikes
idle oxide
Battlelord for venthyr is definitely yikes
like good Yikes, or bad Yikes?
scarlet barn
Is yikes ever good?
idle oxide
It can be... like - That damage it puts out is "Yikes" for the enemy team.
But knowing Battlelord Venthyr - I believe its "Yikes, why would you gimp yourself like that" 🙂
There is just no Synergy
As Venthyr you spam Condemn. Like face smash spam...
You aren't hitting Overpower as much for MS resets. So in principle, its a bad choice.
glacial tree
mmm no, currently I have rival gear I, I am still taking my improvements, I have...
You can do it but most warriors are crit vers primarily speaking unless you're fury. I would say just hope the vault gives you better stats.
glacial tree
BG spam best way to start gearing fresh 60 arms warrior?
Bg spam sure but get conquest gear by doing all the dailies and 1 rbg win a week will give you 500 conquest and 1 piece of 220 unranked gear via vault.
glacial tree
Battlelord felt the worst for me on Venthyr. I run exploiter for ventyr, EB for...
Same i run exploiter but i was informed by djrio whos a r1 warrior to go enduring blow for venthyr in 2s
glacial tree
It can be... like - That damage it puts out is "Yikes" for the enemy team.
But...
I figured itd be good for battlelord due to us using MS all the time in between condemn and procs
Though ive never tested battlelord out for venthyr
gaunt dune
You can do it but most warriors are crit vers primarily speaking unless you're f...
Sorry, my bad, I'm arms XD
I Run 16 critic, Vers 36 and Haste 10%
glacial tree
Sorry, my bad, I'm arms XD
Its all good im about 4-5% haste just enough to have a good amount of rage generation from auto attacks, and im about 32% vers or something...id have to check when i get home.
gaunt dune
Its all good im about 4-5% haste just enough to have a good amount of rage gener...
I will be grateful to receive recommendations, it is the first season that I aspire to reach 2100, any important detail that helps improve my game will be welcome
idle oxide
I will be grateful to receive recommendations, it is the first season that I asp...
My pref is 15% haste, rest Crit. Max out your vers with gems and enchants but run 1xmovement speed gem. I have about 16% Crit. But really, stats is very much about what you like. What feels best for you
gaunt dune
My pref is 15% haste, rest Crit. Max out your vers with gems and enchants but r...
These are my current stats, I'm still upgrading my equipment to my pvp rank, I usually use battlelord and elisian
bleak sage
Whats the main necro lego at the moment?
ember rose
EB or BL
idle oxide
EB from what everyone says. Use to be BL, but guess it changed along the way
vague rover
For Kyrian you use the Kyrian legendary on the pants right?
pastel garden
Yeah.
deft island
hi, can i somehow export a gladiusex profile to send to somebody?
wicked magnet
hi, can i somehow export a gladiusex profile to send to somebody?
didnt even know about that addon, thats pretty sweet to have a party version too
warped warren
?
wheat jay
Roasting is what makes you improve
sharp meteor
there were like four people calling his line of inquiry dumb or something
i don't remember what it was, just that he was gettin flamed
scarlet barn
I saw that
wicked magnet
wtf i cant login, all realms say incompatible, bnet launcher doesnt let me check for updates or scan and repair @_@
oh nvm got it, there was an agent.exe and a wow.exe running in background
mystic barn
The mes arena cds wa?
elfin valve
trying to find the weak aura pack for arena enemy cd use
omnibar or tell me when also dope for these
keen stone
@mystic barn yea ended up finding it ty
analog gorge
im sure its been said a million times but what is the consensus on the meta cov and legendaries in 9.2 i would assume its kyrian
sharp meteor
Based on current balance I'd go Kyrian
but we're a long way off the patch
venth kyrian or necro could be the best we just can't say rn because so much subject to change
NEW <DNT> 9.2.0 Class Set - Monk - Windwalker - 4PC After 10 offensive abilities, your next 3 offensive abilities deal an additional 22% damage.
like look at this
between pvp tuning and whatever the new set bonuses are it's just too hard to say rn
sharp meteor
Arms Warrior Tier Set Bonuses in Patch 9.2
NEW Pile On Every 75 Rage consumed increases the effectiveness of your next Colossus Smash or Warbreaker by 2%, up to 10%.
NEW Pile On Increases the duration of your Colossus Smash and Warbreaker by 3 sec.
Like Venthyr with Enduring might be the best you'd have insane smash uptime
elder wigeon
the tier sets in 9.2 for every spec is crazy
nah the csmash from enduring has a different spell id
there's zero chance enduring works with that passive
sharp meteor
ahh shambles
NEW Fiery Rush (4-Set) While Combustion is active you burn for 2% of your maximum health every 1 sec causing your Fire Blast and Phoenix Flames to recharge 100% faster.
AHHHH
elder wigeon
with that tier set now you get 6 seconds of csmash no matter when you get disarmed
not aids to play anymore
warlock tier set is absolutely bonkers
elder wigeon
just get kicked, and then freecast
warlocks are tanky enough to just cast on your face and it not matter
sharp meteor
i don't see it being fantastic vs melee
like maybe wizards sure but melee it's sketch
you've got so many globals to get out and maintain dots
then a set gets dispelled
then you get locked
then a second set is ripped off, suddenly you're doing no dam
wet scarab
That WW set is just nuts though
It’s like they looked at the random proc fishing complaints and decided you know what, how about if we give you consistent extra damage as well for shits and giggles
Instead of replacing it
Wonder if the bonuses will feel strong enough that it becomes mandatory to have one of the pve set bonuses for PvP
Destro looks like it’ll be insanely fun though. Rain of fire chaos bolt procs morphing into multiple infernals running around stirring shit
simple rock
so if the tier sets are obtainable via pvp, does that mean there will be a pvp version of the tier set? like all pieces with vers
lucid walrus
would assume you can itemize them to some extent but not sure how they'll do that
i'm talking out of my ass here but you're supposed to be able to turn gear into set items if i'm not mistaken. may be that it keeps the stats of that item so you just take your gear off the vendor and do that to it
tired portal
so if the tier sets are obtainable via pvp, does that mean there will be a pvp v...
you will be able to earn a currency later on that you can use to upgrade a pvp item to a tier set item
elfin surge
i cant wait for them to add more damage mods to pvp next season.
tough compass
Am I Triping or do we get 40% warbreaker dmg buff from the tier set with nearly endless uptime using Venth Legy + EB?
elder wigeon
you're tripping
scarlet barn
Did you try not tripping
frigid loom
2-10% extra pr warbreaker/col smash pr 75 rage spent, so sinful surge should extend it, EB should be adding a new one thats calculated by amount of rage spent since last wb/cs
fierce elm
Cant just assume EB interaction this early tho
Sinful Surge will extend it because it counts as WB, but as proven sinful surge is mad ass in pvp
buoyant chasm
Is venth still good for 2v2 or kyrian and necro are way better?
sharp meteor
venth still good/fine ya
elfin surge
Is venth still good for 2v2 or kyrian and necro are way better?
venth is okay but youll have a much better time as kyrian.
sharp meteor
enduring as a general st dmg pick imo
frail light
aha okay
frigid loom
Depends alot of comps tbh, ive started using leaper legendary more and more lately in 2’s against bm/rdruid or similair high mobility matchups
On comps*
thick reef
someone carry me arena 2v2 balnazzar 200 ilvl arms wrw
thick reef
so if the tier sets are obtainable via pvp, does that mean there will be a pvp v...
You’re going to shove a PvP piece of gear into the forge in the new zone and it’ll put the set bonus buff on it.
It’ll cost the new version of echos of nyalotha
frail light
I was playing some 2s on my dh and faced arms warriors
And they did 24k mortal strikes in my face…
sharp meteor
sometimes you get an execute crit or mortal combo during cds and somebody dies
like i just queued retwarr into another retwarr and got 4 divine purpose procs in a row
and dinged the enemy rets face in
wet scarab
One of the best uses of the spell reflect leggo appears to be that everyone expects you to use EM and blow defensive cooldowns on a 4 sec spear
elfin surge
paper oracle
no sephuz <:weird:718676218500874320>
remember when everyone swore by sephuz in s1 
sharp meteor
i liked it for venth
if i didn't need misshapen
also wasn't sephuz 15 or 20% initially
or was that like before it went live i don't recall
full quiver
just be human and use brooch
thick reef
do u WW as fury in pvp?
scarlet barn
If you have to
For rage generation
Or when you want to fish out stealthed player
Or when you cleave
So yes you do
pale minnow
Why cali not back yet?
wheat jay
Cuz some pussy that banned him doesnt want to unban the man
pale minnow
What's the point of this discord btw?
sharp meteor
to tell people that crit and haste are both good stats
and that kyrian and necro are both viable
also that venth isn't unplayable
pale minnow
Only the casual people are keeping up this channel, cassual like "valajar" rank . Mods or higher ranks don't react and do not talk on this chat
Afro and karg used to be stormforged but they are dropped to valajar what happened here even?
pale minnow
I see that, so karg and afro didn't behave or what?
wheat jay
Well, apparently noone behaved as we should have
I guess gym, body improvement, and stuff like that are too much in the sphere of bodyshaming
wheat jay
:)
pale minnow
You know what i mean? Gym and testo comes with it
wheat jay
I do know, dont worry
But some people define calling out someone's unhealthy lifestyle a bodyshaming, there's nothing we can do about it
It is what it is
mystic barn
artji needs to be silenced
mystic barn
fartji
pale minnow
This mentallity ruins literally everything, instead of helping unhealthy people to get in shape and healthy they rather encourage them to be like that because it's ok.
pale minnow
Troma chan is right
Anyways
I came for advice
Mainly but from who should i ask if they banning here the epic sith lords of 3k rating
pale minnow
Season start pins very nice they ain't telling anything new about how to face other comps
My biggest problem is mages
Somehow in 3s only me and a mage remained rmp vs ret warr
wheat jay
Usually you're dead in that scenario xD
pale minnow
And i couldn't win solo him and i felt that i can't do shit, maybe i'm bad or maybe they just counter war too well
sharp meteor
u don't win that in a million years
unless mage completely out of gas and u have everything
pale minnow
Even tho i outplayed him pretty well, he still manages to defeat me, he has way more survival tools
I bladestorm predicted his db
Reflected sheep in last sec
And still lost
warped warren
Cuz some pussy that banned him doesnt want to unban the man
yooooooooo......
wheat jay
Eto
mystic barn
fartji
pale minnow
I explain how we play vs rmp if you find anything unusual let me know, we play ret+ mistmonk and warr. I trinket shadowblade, monk trinkets first comb, ret trinkets second comb. And we rotate like this our trinkets, our main focus is rogue, i play banner,big rally, disarm and mirror legendary.
I use banner usually before their second go checking the dr and popping it hoping that rogue opens again at that time. is this how i should banner or u suggest anything else?
elder wigeon
I don't have a script for what I banner, I play by ear, and banner in situations that can help keep us from having to trinket a smaller go
banner isn't enough to stop a big go, I honestly think it's a waste
pale minnow
Well then, u suggest to not use banner?
sharp meteor
No banner is good it's just kind of like to partially scuff a go
Can be hard to always get value off it especially when mages instakill it
fickle forge
I see that, so karg and afro didn't behave or what?
pale minnow
<a:catjam:741127114845061211>
What have you done my man?
fickle forge
Ask Vel
I didn't even get to read the message on what we had done before the nuke hit
🤷♂️
pale minnow
Rip man i'm sorry to hear this
Imma start recording our games, i really don't know what to do better sometimes and we just lose, our pala dies usually, bad cd management i guess, but i could use a little advice too on my gameplay
fickle forge
You can just use SquadOV if you have a decent enough PC to have a shadow recorder running
elder wigeon
Well then, u suggest to not use banner?
banner is really good, I just use it to mess up one of their smaller goes, banner is not enough to save anyone if actual cooldowns are used and using banner and then having to trinket is really bad
pale minnow
banner is really good, I just use it to mess up one of their smaller goes, banne...
👍
True comb and sb can delete in 1-2 sec
Some non warrior players expect banner to save them
One more question, there is an arguement between my healer and ret, that cross cc should be faster then our burst cd's at the start of the game. What is more important, using burst cds or cross ccs first?
sharp meteor
if u press damage buttons first then they can just cc you and walk away
generally u want to get cc out first
elder wigeon
my team usually gets cross before CD's because getting the first go is really important vs melee cleaves
sharp meteor
like i bolt into warbreaker spear and we're on the offensive
ya first go can kind of establish momentum
steel rune
graceful quarry
ok
steep inlet
wheat jay
What the fuck is even battlemaster
Use enduring mostly
Sometimes mirror
If you can use it effectively
warped warren
general pick is enduring. into rogues sephuz is really good
shell bone
venthyr arms still avaible ?
sharp meteor
maybe he means battlelord
and it's stun into warbreaker then you bladestorm as the stun is ending
or max range warbreaker and bladestorm as you move into them as they usually spam disarm
lone lagoon
what secondary stats do you want as a necro warr after vers? full haste or mix with crit?
warped warren
full haste
formal creek
i see some top warriors with full crit with necro enduring gear. wondering if it's just because they were kyrian or its good
elder wigeon
have high haste, warbreaker at max range and bladestorm, or howl them and just avoid them as long as possible
dawn hill
Which legendary should I craft for Venth 2s/3s?
sharp meteor
sephuz
old trail
whats the pvp cloak look like for 2.1k?
old trail
Season cloak is what Im looking for
pastel garden
It's what I got when I hit 2.1k anyway
lucid walrus
“prestigious” appearance
ember rose
https://gyazo.com/301791c8f1861788e599e5c606cdcb3a
Bruh this one sick
time to push 2.1
lucid walrus
2s 2.1 is free
played around there to get my necro some upgrades & people just seem worse than they were earlier in the szn. NA might’ve inflated, unsure
opaque quarry
Anyone have a good set up for fury pvp? Looking at a few sites and everyone is running so much diff shit lol
lucid walrus
maybe it was that change holinka mentioned last season
swear he said they've been doing that for ages. not sure
somber comet
Anyone have a good set up for fury pvp? Looking at a few sites and everyone is r...
Go Arms.
tiny dagger
what trinket combo are ya'll using ? ive been using badge with brooch cuz human. how much should i look to run shackle, emblem,bm trinks
elder wigeon
I'm orc, but I always run badge, I never swap it out, I don't like shackle for anything and BM doesn't feel that good because rogue mage does so much dmg
tiny dagger
ok cuz i tab alot of top war armories and seems like everybody has something different on
elder wigeon
most play badge or insignia 24/7
bm is okay into things like jungle, RPS, RMX
but I'd only run BM if you're the primary kill target, if you're playing ret warrior, you're not often the target, if you're playing a comp where you're a viable target often, bm becomes a much better choice when playing against comps with a lot of CC
sharp meteor
i like insignia for throughput and general purpose as necro
badge for kyrian spear and when playing lower mmr
battlemaster if super sketched
stray sapphire
whats'the best covenant for war arms?
warped warren
yeah
jaunty furnace
Why can’t I Que for the shado-pan brawl
sharp meteor
because small indie company shipped a broken brawl again
but because korrak's is up most people haven't noticed
also bg week and need that sweet upgrade honor
dry trail
they should have added something to trade conquest with like valor points
i have 10k conquest and nothing to do with it
old trail
How do I get better at knowing when to swap targets
Like, there's the obvious like if pally bubbles you swap but
sharp meteor
whenever it's efficient
if druid covers their partner with hots + bark then turn and hit somebody else
just don't be losing uptime because you tried to force a swap on something with more mobility like a monk
marsh wharf
what are stat prios for necro wars? still crit?
warped warren
haste haste and more haste
marsh wharf
Sucks cause i upped many pieces for crit when i was kyrian
wheat jay
Eto is succeeding with haste
Meaning he's either lucky 2head or skillful 5head
Both crit and haste are good tho
marsh wharf
yeah not a huge deal i suppose
wheat jay
Etoxic
marsh wharf
to bother you obviously
wheat jay
pale minnow
since I swapped my ret pala for a sp and went kyrian as well
I reached 2.4
An advice for you guys, if your partner does not want to change for the better gameplay you really need to drop em, or else you'll get dragged down or hardstuck
scarlet barn
So drop Elysian might, got it
pale minnow
So drop Elysian might, got it
What a gangster 
wet scarab
They really need to not allow having 2 of the same class in 2s arenas
Faced two Druid teams in a row today, had to do 1.2 million damage to beat a feral/resto and got destroyed by a dual convoke boomkin team
How do you actually beat two boomkins?
pale minnow
alt+f4
if you think that is hard
then what would you think about a queenned invis balance druid with 100% dmg buff
elder wigeon
depends on covenant
sharp meteor
varies by comp and matchup
nimble hearth
nvm read the pinned
nimble hearth
is jaithys better than 252 hakar weapon for arms warrior? (max upgraded jaithys)
simple rock
probably yeah, jaithys is crit haste isntead of mastery crit
scarlet barn
Oh yea the classic: add class is most broken atm
graceful quarry
comment sections is where the real content is
viscid bluff
Oh yea the classic: *add class* is most broken atm
lmao
loses one game against warrior
warrior is broken atm
gritty salmon
Hmm I wonder what the uptime on recklessness will be with the new tier set bonuses
and two legendaries
Sinful Surge and Signet of tormented kings
Together with 20 % proc on reck for 4 sec, for each raging blow.
Combine that with good haste, and it feels like you can keep it up for a long time.
quasi lotus
Hmm I wonder what the uptime on recklessness will be with the new tier set bonus...
Its 100% providing you can hit condemn
In pvp I guess it just depends how much cc you eat and when
gritty salmon
@quasi lotus It would be massive damage
Issue is that, it still wont fix Furys biggest issue
and that its nonexistant tankiness compared to arms
However
if you do get 90 % Uptime on recklessness, you could dessentially, have a lot of ignore pain
getting 60 rage during recklessness, is basically very very easy
quasi lotus
Pressing ignore pain will severely reduce the uptime
nimble hearth
probably yeah, jaithys is crit haste isntead of mastery crit
Max upgraded
gritty salmon
Pressing ignore pain will severely reduce the uptime
It would but not severely , since condemn is free but on CD which synergies with sinful condemn
scarlet barn
It would def
60 rage and window is getting smaller, plus you dont have mega uptime in pvp enviroment
Also target isnt in condemn rage 100% of the time
dry trail
Guys any tips on what spells should i track with weak auras i have warbreaker and mindgames
gritty salmon
It would def
We will see how it plays out
The 15 % dps buff on raging blow isnt bad either
This affects reckless abandon aswell right?
scarlet barn
I know how 60 IP cost plays out
wheat jay
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
sharp meteor
wym keybinds are all personal
full quiver
can somone send me keybind for fury warrior
just go arms and use this
sharp meteor
scarlet barn
just go arms and use this
stop
gloomy perch
Do you actually incorporate ignore pain like that into your macro or is he memeing
New to warrior
quasi lotus
Hes memeing
nocturne radish
just go arms and use this
LMAO
full quiver
if you do that you don't need to focus on your defensives
fierce elm
@full quiver
scarlet barn
do you use it with MS? I find it's better with overpower
Dont ever macro IP to rotational abilities
sharp meteor
uh you could get by with it in overpower if you really didn't wanna bind stuff
obviously not ideal but
wet scarab
it's not ideal but my brain is too small to use IP consistently and this gives it the highest possible uptime. I'm never rage starved in arena and it procs master tactician often enough
wet scarab
why do you think it's a bad idea?
wet scarab
besides being habitually bad?
sharp meteor
it is bad but it's fine if ur low mmr like just playing to duelist or something
wet scarab
I'm at 1950 so definitely not a high MMR
scarlet barn
Yo ustart enforcing correct ones from get go
IP is supposed to be used when pressure is being put on you
If you use it all the time, During your offensive go yo uwill lose steam
lose pressure
sharp meteor
no you do use it all the time
scarlet barn
Because of lack of rage
sharp meteor
unless bursting
or trading super favorably
because it's just efficient in general
relative to a tiny slam
wet scarab
I'm never rage starved in arena though, whether because I'm getting hit or because of MT procs
scarlet barn
So yo uwould use it even when you are not target at all
sharp meteor
yeah unless ignored entirely
sharp meteor
ur thinking about the wrong stuff
scarlet barn
EAsy as it gets
sharp meteor
it's one of those things that isn't as important
fierce elm
Who needs IP when it matters anyways 🤷
sharp meteor
obviously u don't want ip bound into anything if possible
wheat jay
yo what hte fuck is htat convo, macroing ip to anything is retarded
i can't believe we got nuked for lifting talk and topics like this just go
sharp meteor
i need glad on nf so tempted to play that with ip bound into op
wet scarab
yo what hte fuck is htat convo, macroing ip to anything is retarded
we aren't all giga-chads like you
wheat jay
if you macro ip with ANYTHING then only thing you need is lobotomy
nocturne radish
what about d stance
wet scarab
good thing you're not in charge of that!
sharp meteor
stances are their own thing and depend on cds and gamestate
nocturne radish
got it
fierce elm
Have it on 24/7 and run to 1800 in 2s
sharp meteor
if ur trading favorably then battle IDEALLY
but also need to look into future because if u get sheeped twice while in battle
nocturne radish
i see
sharp meteor
suddenly you're off stund r
rogue stuns your healer, then you, then shifts poly to healer
NOT ideal situation to be in
tldr is when in doubt just sit defensive
scarlet barn
And then you realise you have IP on cd cause you used it up when you very getting gently cleaved 👀
sharp meteor
def setup dam so you can sit in battle during cds tho
ip isn't rly a major cd it's just the more efficient rage dump than slam in most cases
fickle forge
When you want to OP -> Execute, but you suddenly lack the rage to exe cause of your macro
sharp meteor
unless u anticipating a go on you soon and u get it up right before that
wheat jay
can't cuz macroed to something
sharp meteor
like pre bm and pre-ip a go can keep u safe
scarlet barn
When you want to OP -> Execute, but you suddenly lack the rage to exe cause of y...
But macroing IP doesnt matter on Lower mmr 👀
fierce elm
BM nani
wheat jay
bm is low bench energy
wet scarab
I'm absolutely not saying it's the right thing to do, I'm saying it makes me die less as a bad warrior at 1950
sharp meteor
not memeing but binding ip into op aand unbinding slam would probably boost the mmr of all the rivals
fierce elm
It would most definitely do lmao
Its good getting habits in early
especially if you are already 1950
Its not that hard and within a few games you should be able to work it out
sharp meteor
ya don't macro it into anything and just get in the habit of remembering to use it
it's hard to juggle all the utility stuff you need to do in 3s but in 2s it's pretty chill
fierce elm
Its a habit
wet scarab
so you just use it consistently when you're taking damage or save it for specific cooldowns?
sharp meteor
just send it off cd
fierce elm
Your best bet is learning how to use it consistently
sharp meteor
when ur not bursting
fierce elm
then you can start moving into timing it to certain things
sharp meteor
and when it won't mean u can't mortal strike
wet scarab
ok, I'll give it a shot
sharp meteor
u can also align it with little goes like u know the hunter is going to get a trap
so u ip as they are, and parry early
and that negates most of their pressure
wet scarab
gotcha
sharp meteor
really though you just FOR THE MOST PART use it on cd when it won't mean you can't ms
and not during CDs if possible because that's when slam does dam
wet scarab
understood
sharp meteor
can still use during CDS if they're smacking you hard
fickle forge
I'm absolutely not saying it's the right thing to do, I'm saying it makes me die...
But at what cost
dry trail
should i swap to venthyr from necro for 2s ?
wet scarab
But at what cost <:sadge:820202363359854633>
survivability. I'm trying to remember using it and keeping uptime to reduce my damage intake in general while I learn to swap stances properly, and I've generally not had a rage starvation issue because of the master tactician procs
sharp meteor
necro feels pretty decent in 2s
dry trail
venthyr dumps me on dmg done tho
lucid walrus
shouldn't
dry trail
dunno what i do wrong
sharp meteor
venth should have more uptime
as for trading face idk i only queued into two and they didn't do much damage
lucid walrus
they'll have more uptime and i've seen condemns hit >20k but still
sharp meteor
charged a ww for like 15k the other day then executed him for 40 something
lucid walrus
wew
sharp meteor
i was gonna swap because he had just karma'd but he died instantly through it
lucid walrus
always feels like i get the biggest crits early on in ww matches
it's nice bc i don't care to play those out
sharp meteor
yeah i always make the first go count because i don't wanna play those long matches
wicked bison
i feel like i instantly die as fury
near inlet
i feel like i instantly die as fury
Same :(
wet scarab
is it just me or is anyone else facing a lot fewer warriors at the moment
wet scarab
yeah a lot of spriest afflock comps