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game is slow to register positioning when moving forward probably to save data or something
yeah for sure thats 100% true
that is more of a player issue
I use same macro
Never had problem

i think you need to
check ur distance and that to see
maybe see if hamstring is red then u dont press charge/hamstring
nah it's always just a ping thing
ping thing? whats that again
rarely an issue nowadays thankfully
it's that thing where u live in a rural area with cow powered internet then queue into an australian that's sliding around pillars while sutnned
ah
why would a warrior sweeping strikes and then bladestorm?
Unhinged for mortal strikes sweeping strikes I think
Yep.
Or they're a boomer because BS used to just cast whirlwind which had a target cap or something
Or like people who bind hamstring into mortal strike they just don't know better
got it, saw a streamer on youtube do it and was like wtf
probably anticipated disarm
elaborate plz
bladestorm immunes disarm
im saying, why would he cast sweeping strikes then bladestorm, it wasnt like a reaction he did, he said sweeping then bladestorm
yes shadowpriest and disc priest
then why wouldn't he sweep
sweep with ms /op/execute works, i dont know why he would sweep with bs
bladestorm to dodge cc in this case probably void volley or something, or just if you're out of rage and stuff to press in general
i see, so he hit sweeping and was like no rage lemme just bladestorm, got it
idk that's just what I'd probably do if I knew void volley wasn't on the table
there's also using it when the silence goes on your healer because he might horrify you
or as said earlier; to sweep unhinged mortal strikes
gotcha

Hi all. What’s the best covenant for arms for playing with Ret? Kyrian > venthyr?
Kyrian/Necro
Ty
Yeah, kyrian or necro. Venth doesn't bring much to the table right now aside from a little more uptime.
whats the best soulbind for kyrian arms
they all work fine in all situations however, it's better to swap based on what you're playing into
Mikanikos into everything except ferals and assassination rogues, for that you play kleia and use ascendant phial and hope springs
spear nerf sadge
where?
do you mean the legendary?
the executioner buffs mortal strike after condemn or painbringer chance to add colusus smash or warbreaker for venthry 2v2 arms warrior
doesn't rly matter
probably executioner
kk
hey i cant tell what stat i should go for as venthyr most of the stats on murlok io are for kyrian crit warrriors

kk
kk
venthyr is crit, i mean isnt that what executioner is all about, that surprise burst
War hunter heal viable 3v3 ?
KFC is viable yes
Yep. Both classes seem like they have better comps but it works.
same as kitty cleave
Is it worth it in arena speccing into double time instead of storm bolt against some comps? I feel like the root from warbringer plus the extra damage can be more useful against melee dps targets but I don’t know if that’s a stupid idea or not. I can see it also making uptime a lot better against good kiting healer classes
May even make it viable to go after mages as priority targets at times
I don't like the idea of not playing bolt especially with how breakneck things are
bolt's a bit too strong of a peel & setup tool to just lose
can play it into bm/rd as wd granted your rdruid plays kitty and stuns hunter for you
appart from that, bolt is just too much value
All good points, thanks for the advice folks
I think I got carried away after killing a couple of rogues with warbringer
All CDS warbringer slaps
any good charge hamstring or charge PH macro that work
/cast charge
/cast hamstring
Is it comp stomp brawl in a few days?
Does avoidance speed leech work in arena ? cause i have some pieces with extra stats but when im in arena it doesn't show on the stats sheet
they work
ok nvm
they don't work on gear
gems and enchants do tho
Fury warrior feral?
bis in slot
Bruv... saw on 2.2 nightfae ret + fury warrior kyrian , dude missed spear i was on necro alt yet i died like shit from non burst, crazy :x no complains just claps wish to see more fury brothers rise
R1 dudes trying alot of fun things
If someone is good with blizz over here tell em to merge the pvp lfg que's with the two factions, because alliance is dead
I can't play arena, can't grind or can't even hardstuck if i cannot play the game lmao, i'm reading books while i wait on ques, it's this tragical
swap to horde
cool
YES
o dope its a way for free gear right
Yeah, good honor. 1400 is 246 so you just queue like 10 games, get that, then comp stomp to upgrade all the gear you mailed over from other chars.
You also get renown on wins so it'll be like super alt catchup week
You can buy an item that generates a piece of random conquest gear for 375 conquest, and it's boa.
So you shoot a dozen of those over, hopefully avoid getting too many duplicate slots, then get 1000, 1200 or 1400 rating to dump honor into t hem
yea
You need 1400 or 1600 on your main before you can mail over the BoAs?
It's 1600 to buy them, yeah.
Where the vendor for this????
Up by the flight point on the second floor of Oribos
but only after Tuesday as it's coming in 9.1.5
Thnks
Random, unranked gear.
War ret better with necro or kyrian in 3s?
I mean 375 is pretty reasonable for a gamble and they made low rank conq gear super strong
Also if a char doesn't really benefit from them then that char is already probably geared enough
and just needs some honor for upgrades
i think nerco better for ret/warr
says warriorsarri is playing half life 3 that doesnt exist right? xD
bet ty
np 🙂
ofc it does
You didnt know?
You living in cave or something?
yes a man cave
spriest summons too many pets
can i just macro ignore pain into all my abilties?
Yes, but there are times where you'd prefer to pool rage in anticipation of bursting, namely if you think they'll dip into execute range.
There's also slam during goes where you're ahead in momentum
but like i could just macro it into mortal strike, sweeping strikes, collosal smash, stuff like that right
i dont have any more buttons for abilities

I wouldn't advise it, but yes
im going to use this ok

Yeah slicey that's what I did

🧠

Guys come on
This is a channel for help
And he obviously needs help
So help him
Isn't that the point?
SMH.

Man , memes aside
Correct answer was to, dont macro ignore pain to rotational abilities....plain and simple
Macro dbts to mortal strike
Be a man
First mortal strike of the game you go all in
Anyone done any testing of the go to leggo/cov for 9.1.5?

Heya!
Time for stupid questions.
It seems like everybody is talking about a serious pvp and want to push high ratings.
So every info I find is from serious dudes to serious dudes 😄
But I'm not a serious dude, and don't search for the most effectiveness but for fun. More is better.
I want to play fury and mostly random bgs (maaaybe some rated arena for the gear, but nowadays I don't have plenty of time as I used to). No m+/raids (maybe occasionally, not a focus at all).
So far necro seems like a solid choice for that — banner is good, self-sustainability is pretty decent.
But is it me, or necro fury is a boring comp? Which cov you consider the most fun while playing random bgs and other kinds of low life pvp?
Leaper is super fun, yea
But as I've been playing Venthyr priest since the beginning of SL I barely can stand the brightness of Kyrian location lmao
well then play something with a darker fort? lol
Haha yea
Well, did I get it right that Venthyr's conduits and all that is a garbage for fury? Haven't touched new 9.1 mechanics yet.
Double Door of shadows and Leaper can make some fun together maybe.
Maybe even can find some use of Condemn for fury (which is almost useless, am I right?)
But totally have 0 idea about Venthyr's synergy with fury in general
And guides tell it's bad for rated arena but can't find a single mention about low-life pvp 🙂
if you want to meme, play w.e you want )
venthyr soulbinds are just trash imho
oh for random bgs? why dont you just switch to arms and in 9.1.5 get that conduit thats being buffed which increases your damage when enemies are around you, i think fully upgraded its suppose to be like up to 20% extra condemn damage depending on number of enemies around you
i think thats going to be fun in random bgs
Hey guys does the nerf to elysian might change anthing? should i still be going vers>crit
Big spear is still good. Crit or Haste is fine.
TY
wish arms had a 90% slow
Wish warrior had button that does 100k dmg
same bro
so i got glad last season, and started to play again i got 2.1 as venthyr in 2s, i feel venthyr is okay in 2s but in 3s i take a lot of damage compared to other people with fleshcraft
should i go necrolord
I queued into an arms/havoc playing Venth around 2.6-2.7 so it's not unplayable or anything
but Kyrian and Necro are both better imo
/cast charge
/cast hamstring @lucid walrus Does not work
Hmm works on my machine
Necro feral druid
is demo+arms really that bad in 2s?
I’ll try test again after work
Because arms doesnt work well without healer
Actually
Warrior in general doesnt work well without healer , so dont gimp yourself by going those comps
That one guy was playing double necro warr at like 2500
In general though yeah healer or maybe hybrid
Haven't pvp'd since SL season one, really. Does enrage buff shackles damage?
Nah enrage buffs only warrior abilities
Class abilities dont interact with non class abilities generally
In this case trinkets
What leggo do we craft in 9.1.5 as necro?
Enduring helm for pve dmg, mirror chest to protect self and team from wizards, chest sephuz perhaps for uhh cc heavy then unhinged on gloves for 1-shots or maybe into melee cleaves
necro feels somewhat flexible in what it can play
yes
Doesn't enrage usually break that rule? >.>
Guys, what is the best choice for a healer for 2x2 as a warrior? My friend wants to level up one. It used to be pala i guess but i heard smth changed and now its druid or something else?
Rdruid >> Rsham > everything else
And 9.1.5 doesnot change much i guess? Thank you.
Yeah, as he says. Either resto spec is super good.
Arms/Rdruid just feels so strong
Close
garms on the ladder?
2.4? godspeed soldier
so is necro war the meta now ?
question, I'm 99% pve gear starting some pvp, is combatant pvp gear > 252 pve?
about 10% vers at the mom with pvp trinks
lol no just use pve gear with pvp trinkets ya
and necro warr was always solid everybody just only played kyrian for some reason with a few retwarrs going necro it seems?
the state of 2v2
i love getting swept and taking 200k dmg
How far off?
how would i gear for pvp this far into expac? is honor gear still best way or could i use some raid gear for rated until i have enough conq

They are reducing costs for pvp gear when patch hits, would still advise to collect base conquest items and then start dumping honor on upgrades rather than honor gear alone. If you have pve gear, start using that and slowly transition to conquest
Also they are making gaps smaller in ilvl
Fury or arms boys for pvp given the 45% increase auto attack dmg on fury coming in
Depens on what your goal is, but arms is the way to go for most people 🙂
Arenas mainly 2s
However 45% base dmg seems pretty juicy given they already have decent sustain pressure
Arms
Always

Guess your points valid having to stack up rampage stacks for healing reduction
You have reliable ms now tbh
Aiight cheers boys x
Frankly
gonna carry my friend for badge this week
playing double monk 3s
we gonna get so much flame
lmao
Just to give you perspective, dmg will increase, but toolkit stays the same
And that is why arms is miles ahead
razonko this is how low mmr goes
xuen on their dps keefers rsk
healer panics trades big cd for that
kill healer in a keefers bonedust sweep as soon as proc is acquired
Thanks brother.. just swapped from dk to warrior after coming back 3 weeks ago.. geared the dk and realised how bad they are in twos xD so fairly new to warrior
Ok and if you still lose
I want you to post defeat pic here
And admit your mistakes
i mean ngl
might lose to rmp cuz not very exp player
into rmp
bad times
hehhee
granted low rated rmps make my eyes bleed
with how long their goes take to setup
you take turns trinketing the go 
I really wish they fixed how everyone can walk out of the damn spear of bastion
Even without a damn strinket 😂
Not everyone can 🙃
Aight, 80% of the game
what cov is best for fury pvp i was looking at the top dudes and they all had something diff

Prob same as arms
Kyrian /necro
but if you are playing fury in pvp you are already memeing, so migh as well try NF burst combo
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I got to 2200 CR as NF fury! It’s not that bad!
@warped warren playing with a DH use aftershock the exact same moment when he uses hunt and one shot anyone. No one expects it!

And why arent you higher 👀
im actually going to try NF a little when servers come back up, do you recall what soulbinds are nerfed in pvp?
for example waking dreams i assume is nerfed in pvp?
by half, yeah
survivor's rally? maybe not nerfed in pvp because its a HoT?
you can just look up binds you're unsure on and see if they have modifiers on wowhead
oh nice ok thanks
quick question about renown
when 9.1.5 hits do i still need to farm renown to max on my alt if my main is 80 renown?
i think i recall reading something about being able to buy a renown boost for your alts i think it was to 40 renown?
Yeah, it's 500g from a vendor to skip to 40
And by the time you're doing anything that matters you'll probably passively be like 60+
i have a priest from last season with 226 ilvl so i kind of wanted to step into arena
so i can change to necro, buy the boost to 40 atleast?
and i dont have to do the campaign?
Yep.
awesome
How much does a conquest box cost
👀
It was 375 and 1600+ cr, but might've changed. I'll go check real quick.
Looks like it's still 375 but 1400+ CR
How much haste do you guys like to run?
8-10% ish
gameplay doesn't feel as fluid once I drop below that
tbh might just go full haste necro to try something new
i've thrown enough 
12% haste feels nice
oh wtf
I thought there was no other 2h other than mast/vers
but just got a crit one in vault
it also looks really dope
nvm im dumb
So when we cov swap our main which is already 80 renown will our renown still go to 0 on the swap ?
im confused i swapped covenants and im at 1 renown
Yeah it will be. You buy an item for 500g to put it to 40.
oh i thought we were going to be able to carry over our renown xD
damn and i have to do the campaign
no conq cap 
"we wanted to make covenant choices a meaningful decision"

i also just got a crit/vers weapon in my vault
you're not dumb
it's new
great the one week i dont do any rated pvp
Is double time worth it against hunters? (HArd stuck 1750 , keep losing against shaman & hunter , basically just walking behind both, shaman & hunters
Maybe? I just played bolt every game
bolt every game
use your mobility appropriately
sham + hunter is not really a thing because priest + hunt and r dru hunt are like 50x better
Like I could maybe see a case for warbringer and double time for just doin dam and maintaining uptime but
Bolt, honestly. Double time is just making it easier for the hunter.
yeah don't whiff mobility
a druid / hunter team made mag try double time one time I was watching
Okay, any tips on how to do the gos? They just keep dispelling the druid's heals, and slow me to death
I'm giggling as a hunter around 2.1k myself atm, nothing high but uhhhh. I've not really had troubles with warriors. Especially as I take ping pong trap (explosive).
Warr + R Dru is good into hunter unless the hunter is also playing with an R Dru
So if anything, just stick to bolt.
Yeah I feel like arms/rdruid usually eats hunter teams unless they have an rdruid
Felt warrior favored to me from both ends anyways
if shaman is just spamming purge you need to line during traps and play to oom sham
@blazing carbon How is your warrior on the hunter? Take us through his general play.
With a rdruid you can just sweep and thorns on cd and kill the pet 3x
Yep. And just swap to pet when you either get kited for a second or the hutner is fully barked/hotted
Well to make it short:
We start the fight warriro gets a cenarion ward from the start, Rdruid goes stealth
BM start to use pet to hit him, he is hard slow, he charges on the Rshammy, I thorns and heal him from the damage
Deals some CC on the hunter, he pet stun me into freeze
Rshaman mass dispell all my HoTs so I gotta heal him once more , I root the shaman, get kicked by him, root again, get kicked by hunter, gotta use CC to get to heal my warrior
Eventually, we die because all my heals gets dispelled, and the Warrior just can't keep up against the Rshaman all walking out of his spears
You should 100% win vs a hunter+Rsham as warr+Rdruid, you're most likely just not keeping up your slows or spear into feign
Better to judge with footage
yeah i only saw like one or two bm/rsham teams
it's trash lol
yeah definitely not the ideal combo
it's how my buddy got 2.1 on his rsham and it was rough watching it
if you play reflect leggo you will reflect 90% of traps until 2400 unless you fight hunter teams that can actually cross cc
which is rare
YEP
especially since our hunter would yolo traps into ele lmao
misshapen breaks their heads
Thanks!
So you can force feign with raw dam, then spear
or spear then male provided the healer is in CC
would the new 2H sword with crit/vers be better than the old vers/mastery 2H axe for arms
Absolutely
ya
we like crit a fair bit more
obviously not worth a re-buy if you've got the axe though
if you like alts or need honor though it might not be worth, depends how much you wanna min max your stats
ok thanks, is that the case also for necrolord war
i know kyrian crit is great since they got the legendary
i happen to just get the 2h sword from vault so got both ^^
yeah, you can go full haste or full crit as either kyrian or necro
or mix
everything works atm
ok cheers
ok so um ui need 80 renown to swap covs without the trouble of releveling right
at 80 renown you can buy an item that gives you instant renown 40
my understanding is that you still have to farm the rest
ok thanks what about swapping to covs u already were i got the quest handed to me when itried to go back to nerco\
you already kept whatever renown you were at before this patch pretty sure
it's just that there's no penalty now
can do it as much as you want
shouldn't be
ty ty
wait there's 2400 gear upgrades now? LMFAO
It's just 3 pve ilevs
Nothing is changing in pvp
Which is cringe it should be 252 in pve
2.1k is still the highest
It shouldnt
Same as pve gear is not fully 259 in pvp
Yeah they also buffed sub duelist gear rather bigly
oh, the tooltip is poorly worded then
It would only bring inbalance in both pvp and pve
like 1400 is 246 lmaooo
necrolord shield is so bad now lmao
Ilvl differences were too big
cuz it says "PvP item level +3" then bottom part stays the same
this is just mid-expansion tweaks to their latest system so yeah it's always super unclear
friend tested and said it doesn't affect pvp
i haven't queued elite game this week so i can't
but he said it's ui bug
we'll see tho lmaooo
@elder wigeon is it bad for druids now too
Ye
bad for the game
Its bad
highest pvp participation ever
cuz the gear was good for pve
rbgs actually alive
that's it
Cuz season launched
yea it was great
And pvp gear was bis in pve
take me back
And shadowlands had one of the best starts
so many rbg groups
gear should literally never matter in pvp, if devs actually cared arena could be so good
Until people caught up on covenant cons
Gear should matter imo, but different between unranked and 2.1k should be like 10-15%
i mean remove gear and people shift to blame spec balance
and their partners
never themselves
Not 50-80%
and that's why they're the same rating regardless of system
well that's their problem, but gear advantage is inherently bad for a competitive game
nothing stopping them from putting the wod gear on vendors for free but it'd probably murder participation
because most people don't just wanna climb cr
people need a goal and rated just isn't for most people
no it's chores/power
no power gain and people lose interest
there's no "maybe it'll be better when I'm geared" and when they get 1-shot in bis they just quit
People will always complain
ya pvp is so wild rn with gear and that
No matter what the system is
well no one should get one shot with even gear, that's another bad part of the game atm
yeah it is
people said they wanted fast paced games and that's what we have
in wod u could literally afk and take 10 seconds to die
er bfa
Ye which is better than bfa
there's a middle ground though
Fast games require more burst and dmg
random bgs were awful just people taking years to die
It is what it is
but they don't care enough to balance it yeah
this is the middle ground
people dying instantly 90% of the time could've been avoided
You dont usually die instantly
like hey warbreaker conq banner avatar badge blood fury and he stunned me with an execute proc
i'm mainly talking about 30k+ executes, ww burst, ret pally, most other burst is fine
i wonder if i should press a button
rbgs are clown fiesta bracket
People just dont adapt to meta, currently you dont hold cds
or hey the rogue stunned my whole team and the mage is on fire
You need to trade
do i sit this kidney hmm
Obviously you dont :)

People underestimate dmg this season and they die
ngl i watched a clip of a 2.5 rsham
decide to not trinket link early
when both his dps dont have stops for mg
and bust is up
yeah important to establish some dmg foresight
well
early season ret was something
with divine toll machinegun
otherwise yeah
Im saying right now
sometimes u just die by 90%+ of the time there was something that could've been done to avoid it
This moment in the season
yeah basically
at least they fixed flag
So there's the crane kick proc weakaura
then bonedust CD which is 60s same with sweep
What is going to be the best covenant for fury pvp and pve
true
xuen is 120s I think and then they have 2 charges of clones
yeah i dont really die to it
they do
so it's basically just BIG 1 minute go
2 charge
kind of like ret?
xuen is the weakest of the cds
but yeah big go every minute
fish for proc, clones, keefers, bone dust, sweep then unga bunga
Kyrian or necro
i have seen people use cds
A lot of people play necro now
to fire eaters vial
someone told me early s2 that xuen is just bait now
never use cds for xuen, only bonedust pretty much
it is
yeah people dont generally run vokers
in s1 people stacked them and xuen/tony was the "care" cd
xuen does less than a bm pet
yea
even in s1 you could argue
xuen was only the big cd cuz it bloodlusted the monk
not the cds actual damage
yea
gotta remebmer the good s1 days
when monks were kyrian and used invokers
i dont think 1 shot sck was a thing back then
Quick 1, as I cant see it on the guide part - as kyrian, who am I using : pelagos, kleia or mikanikos? New to pvp side of warrior things
oh it killed you, it's just there wasn't bonedust
and people didn't play keefers generally
Is it still worth going Elysian might in 2s?
of course, unless you're queuing into something that think can negate a lot of spear value
Did Kyrian get nerfed in pvp or is it still bst?
cool
kyrian spear crit damage got nerfed
necrolord fleshcraft got severely nerfed
it's like 17K lol
30% of HP
It won't cripple warrior
But will severely hit other classes
Which is good
Ez openers on monks now
druid players in shambles
feral in particular I'm curious to see
no BIG flesh, dot nerfed, offhealing nerfed
probs still high tier
feral frenzy buffed though since the tigers fury conduit got fixed
oh i can no longer upgrade my gear without playing weekly matches?
it was like that in 9.1
It was meant to be like that in 9.1 BUTTTTT the whole season counted as 1 week
So yeah back to a weekly win for upgrades
Until this patch 9.1 was considered by the system to be one week
Which is why your weekly matches were the same as seasonal matches
So you needed a weekly win, but the whole season was 1 week
Idk how it took them this long to fix it or why they even fixed it but whatever
Not gonna change much xd
prob accidental
tbh
I will say tho, played around 2.1 mmr 2s on alt a few weeks ago and my god
people are legit clueless
rdruids skinning air
YEP LOL
anyone know when the season is supposed to end
Probably in like 4 months xD
oh god
im duelest this season, looks like i cant upgrade unless i win a game in my bracket?
i think you can send your new pvp alts conquest boxes or something now yeah? across account?
yeah looks like they made the week actually reset on reset not last the entire season as one week
mikanikos is best soulbind???
perhaps
idk if i should ask here or transmog but they added a sword to the pvp vendor is there a elite or 2.1 rating color for it ?
yeah same color as the other elite weps which is white/blue/silver
check appearance journal, just punch in "unchained" into 2h sword
they added a feral staff as well that uses the kel'thuzad model
Anyone thinking about going Venthyr?
I think that Necro and Kyrian are still better.
Yep, max gear is 2100. They just buffed all the sub-Duelist gear.
I'll be playing venthyr only in 2's pretty much
fuck kyrian in 2's, too many rdruids and hunters
gotcha thanks
feel like I got a downgrade or…more honor to spend? I was 4/5 on all my gear and then thinking I’d get 2.1 and upgrade to max.
Now I’m 6/9 on everything same ilvl
6/9, nice lol
hey guys i just hit 60 and need some advice for my covenant im tryna to do single target pvp
what would be the best?
What is single target pvp friend
cant decide between Venthyr or night fae
like aoe or single target
like i wanna make a build that focuses on targeting one enemy at a time
does the kyrian legendary nerf change anything ?
Not really.
cool cool ty
whats the best pvp weapon to buy from the honor vendor?
so dont spend any upgrades on honor gear qait for conq gear?
well yea normally
but it’s comp stomp week
so if you want to, you can grind hella honor
what soulbind for kyrian warrior with spear leggo in rated bgs?
yea it’s worse gear for sure, it’s just if you have no gear and want to waste honor - this is the week to recover from it
otherwise yep, conq for gear honor for upgrades
I think it would make sense to only spend it if you are near cap
There'd a few weekly for conq this week
Quests
how do you get conquest points?
does anyone have a team for rated bgs?
u want high volume of low mmr wins
idk about best but they seem really good in rbgs from what I've seen
crazy burst in team fights
For Necro are we still running battlelord as our main leggo on wrist ?
are people playing battlelord?
https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/3v3#legendaries looks like the top necros are using enduring or conq banner leggo
but top 50 is almost all kyrian so not a huge sample size
yes
legendary
cringe gamer dad faction
I like to think all those non human ally are really human but they race changed before quitting for the meme
How do you spend conquest on alts?
Lol
so there's a vendor by the fp in oribos
u buy a loot crate for 375 conq
then mail it over
Flight point
oh ok
So necro arms what are we running for legendary the pins said battlelord on 10/16
didn't realize that's what some people played because i haven't seen it
except on like one guy
maybe it's better or similar to enduring?
lol mm are so stupid rapid fire 60k keill both healer and myself at the start..
lmao wanna know an epic gamer move, use at focus binds for shots
so they think you're unloading on the dps but SIKE all the shots are going into the healer
just need to make sure the arrow hits them
hey nerds
did they change the amount of honor it takes to go from unrated max rank?
or does it still suck?
Uh, I think it's cheaper if you exclude elite.
Honor is probably going to be the issue for most people.
They buffed bg/arena conq gains by aanother 25%
hmm
idk why they don't just buff it a shit ton, that shit was a slog and the only way people wanna keep playing a patch this long is to gear alts
Yeah idk maybe they will when people realize that it's mostly just honor in the way
Otherwise this patch is insane lmao
yeah good stuff all around
Yeah just a shame we had to wait an entire goddamn year
Game might not be in shambles if it shipped like this
I've been thinking the same thing, but haven't played unhinged enough to know how that compares.
yeah idk if its enough to make me come back and play alts but at least it's not AS bad if i do
Sephuz is actually solid dmg off the stats AND it's less time in cc, and stacks with hardiness
since we can swap covenants as we like now, would it be venthyr for 2's and kyrian/necro for 3's (depends on comp) ?
pretty much
what lego for venth 2s?
sephuz if orc or executioner would be my top 2
I'd just go sephuz for orc, and mirror into hunters
thats big
Honestly enduring might also be solid
i've never swapped off enduring or mirror for 2s tbh
sephuz into rogues
I know everyone shits on fury cause arms has dbts/ds and better ip, but as venthyr fury w death sentence I stay on target no matter what when others are rp walking . Does anyone play fury seriously or is it only for dummies like me?
Iirc there are few fury warriors above 2.4k
But overall its for dummies
Especially condemn
As far as I know most play necro or kyrian
Do you think its a good choice to go venthyr for 2s until max gear level? Or necro is still better
Why should necro be better than venthyr in 2s?
Do we still go crit as venthyr?
it gets clamped to 30% bro
it's 17K trust me
i had two full fleshcrafts earlier, 30K healing for the both of them
cope
druids can cheese it still by fleshcrafting as the gates open but any after is gonna be 17-25K
i told you bro
simple maff
As necrolord warrior, is there any preference whether I should go Battlelord or Enduring Blow? Should battlelord be crafted with vers/haste?
So necrolord in general prefers haste over crit?
yes
is the new sword the play now since it's crit/vers instead of mast/vers?
Yea it looks badass too
Yeah I got it in vault today lol
Thanks blizz. Thing looks really good with current pvp enchant too
Does anybody know where to go to change cov or is it in the same room as before in Oribos
Same place as before.
Talk to an npc, confirm or w/e and poof you're the new covenant. Just run to their hall and it takes like 10 seconds to unlock all the soulbinds I think.
scroll up like 2 lines
Thank you
I plan on just playing my warrior alt in only 2s. Going venthyr so it’s safe to assume vers>crit>haste?
With enduring or executioner?
im not the only one seeing a new death effect when you die right? like instead of black and white, its blueish, blurry, dark edges, lines all over the place
i fking hate it
Then don’t die. You’re welcome 🙂
Idk I have death effect disabled lol
how do i disable it?
/console ffxDeath 0 I think?
just tried aftershock it hits like a wet noodle what am i missing
oh idk that's just the SL one
ive never had that look until patch 9.1.5
we can fly now
delet this
honestly all cds as necro with unhinged bladestorm
thena random 25k whirlywind out might b cool
BONEGRINDER META CONDUIT!?
merciless bonegrinder and SS talent
You stfu
actually
Uhhh a meme 1-shot wouldn't work in actual games imo too telegraphed
The funny thing with collateral damage though is that a lot of people only use the Warbreaker WA
or ww
full built, 15 seconds with 13 stacks

The thing is that most people aren't aware of it
They are gonna disarm your colossus smash in this case, rendering the whole thing useless
Because you aint getting 7-8 stacks against a ranged comp
yeah wouldn't even try this versus a ranged team that doesn't have a pet
You dont get it versus anything then
but
Any melee team has a) a warrior or b) a WW
definitely at least trying it though
collateral damage you have to be hitting a 2nd target with sweeping strikes, if you arent using warbreaker whats the point xD
it's just a meme build
I know its not competitive
take that in mind
this is just for rextroy to record some vids lol
hm yeah my one big ww on two dummies hit for 70k with no crits
I wonder if this is competitive in m+
probs not
Warbreaker is so fucking huge
and getting 1 WW off in a pack probably will be ass
MAYBE in rbg is usefull
@warped warren stop
It really could be fine, the conduit.
I need you to stop farming comp stomp
Collateral seems kind of iffy.
yeah my brain is melting already i know
with just the conduit, WW hits harder than MS, no OP/sharpen/mortal combo
like 15-20%
maybe conduit+FoB is the play?
really curious to try in those matchups that last a while
Just trinket the disarm
Then u can ww
play with seismic reverberation, sweeping strike charge, bladestorm on double melee, grip in the healer, CS into WW on 3 targets for an extra 80% hit.
@mystic barn CEASE
Until WW disarms through parry cus why not
yeah monk so cringe
but bolt goes through stuff like evasion so i guess it's only fair
Is this truly the play, anger mangement, unhinged, storm of destruction and a whirlywind conduit
Nah, go all out, not unhinged. "Seismic Reverberation" leggy!
and mecanikos with kirian leggo to pump harder and nothing can scape
isw kyrian still good after new patch?
why wouldn't it be
didnt they nerf vanq hammer?
They nerfed the conduit by half in pvp, I think?
still hitten for 15k plus
i think they only nerfed it for prot this hapl im with is wrecking with it
will ww build hit harder on fury
Tbh this channel should be fully nuked again and never revived again to stop the spread of misinformation :)
Shut up qcp
Dont troll people even harder
guys
i have a question
uhm
so i had this crazy idea of macroing Ip to overpower?
is that any good?
it's pretty good
i suggest doing it into every ability
so you don't have to worry about your defensives
nice

so even mortal strike or?
yes
imagine not binding die by the sword into mortal strike
nice
cool thank you
then you can do this while u spam MS and execute
put hamstring in there too
it's called a "swifty button"
Hamstring deez coffee grounds @full quiver
i queued into a fdk in bfa s4 who has ams, ibf and all his dmg cds bound into medallion
walks in gets hit by a slow and presses literally every button at once
Wat soul bind to use for kyrian arms for rated bgs using spear leggo
Kleya makes a good off heal
What is best covenant for warrior?
Kyrian/Necro
Gonna have to try necro but will it be viable on pve aswell 😮
has anyone tested ww build yet
After the nerf to executioner is it still BIS for venthyr or is it enduring now as well?
Was it nerfed?
is there a go to arms "rotation" in pvp? Or prio abilities, venthyr btw but prolly gonna swap necro really shortly.
What is the go to leggo for Necro war? Enduring , Battlelord or Unhinged thanks in advance !

The pins are off so that’s why people keep asking. For example no top warrior runs battlord anymore as necro, it’s all enduring.
Not too off
Conflicting info leads to questions yeah like I don't think I've seen battlelord played except by one guy
I just assumed enduring would be better after the tweak it got
leaper bis
Didn't they gut its interaction with barbarian
(actually I’m a warrior alt ret main so ignore most of if not all of what I say)
It still works dunno what you talking about 👀
Idk just what I heard because I never bothered making a pair as they seemed troll for anything except maybe rbg cheese
We better pin that


Lf 2s exp 2.3 arms blackrock
are you the arms warrior or looking for an arms warrior
me too, honestly ♿
you didnt say :
1, what region
2, what faction
3, what yeah said
il guess eu, horde, hes the arms warr LF healer
name doesnt look american, and eu blackrock is basically horde only server, then he sais lf 2s, exp 2.3, arms, blackrock
thats the feeling atleast ^^
BUT STILL JUST A GUESS
an educated guess!
@tardy kestrel help me out here
1/3 CORRECT!
:<
tbh i just feel good that we can get halfway upgrades now if not 2.1, as warr i feel ilvl rly scales well. its like, queueing at 1.9 or 2k mmr: booster (259), glad alts, booster, legit team just trying to also get 2.1, glad alts, legit team, booster.. etc
I've queued into relatively few boosters, and they usually have a dead weight buyer.
More often than not it's just somebody who bought a carry and is tanking down.
hmm, the ones i faced, i mean u just see it by their hp and also ofc in the way they play, u check-pvp them and theyre 259 and much higher in 3s, this or are alts of same class mains with much higher rating. even tho ur getting ur ass kicked, u feel u have a fair chance atleast if theyre not max geared. maybe 2/3 of what i faced was this, maybe 50%
what covenant do y'all run for turbocleave? want to learn warrior to play with a friend, but couldn't find anything in the guide about what cov to go for turbo
Kyrian feels nice for locking people down in doom winds/ascend.
Necro banner also interesting because of all the extra procs it gives your sham
Idk probably Kyrian but it sort of depends on what you're queuing into
ya gen kyrian better because it goes good with doomwinds cuz its 1 min spear with 1 min doomwinds





