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sharp meteor
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only potential problem with it is if the target is just barely out of melee then clips into charge range and you burn charge by mistake which occasionally happens vs aussies otherwise it's a good time

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game is slow to register positioning when moving forward probably to save data or something

nocturne radish
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yeah for sure thats 100% true

scarlet barn
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I use same macro

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Never had problem

full quiver
nocturne radish
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i think you need to

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check ur distance and that to see

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maybe see if hamstring is red then u dont press charge/hamstring

sharp meteor
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nah it's always just a ping thing

nocturne radish
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ping thing? whats that again

sharp meteor
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rarely an issue nowadays thankfully

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it's that thing where u live in a rural area with cow powered internet then queue into an australian that's sliding around pillars while sutnned

nocturne radish
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ah

fluid axle
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why would a warrior sweeping strikes and then bladestorm?

mint tinsel
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Unhinged for mortal strikes sweeping strikes I think

sharp meteor
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Yep.

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Or they're a boomer because BS used to just cast whirlwind which had a target cap or something

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Or like people who bind hamstring into mortal strike they just don't know better

fluid axle
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got it, saw a streamer on youtube do it and was like wtf

full quiver
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probably anticipated disarm

fluid axle
sharp meteor
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bladestorm immunes disarm

fluid axle
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im saying, why would he cast sweeping strikes then bladestorm, it wasnt like a reaction he did, he said sweeping then bladestorm

sharp meteor
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were 2 targets stacked

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or did he sweep an isolated target

fluid axle
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yes shadowpriest and disc priest

sharp meteor
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then why wouldn't he sweep

fluid axle
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sweep with ms /op/execute works, i dont know why he would sweep with bs

sharp meteor
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bladestorm to dodge cc in this case probably void volley or something, or just if you're out of rage and stuff to press in general

fluid axle
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i see, so he hit sweeping and was like no rage lemme just bladestorm, got it

sharp meteor
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idk that's just what I'd probably do if I knew void volley wasn't on the table

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there's also using it when the silence goes on your healer because he might horrify you

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or as said earlier; to sweep unhinged mortal strikes

fluid axle
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gotcha

warped warren
frosty locust
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Hi all. What’s the best covenant for arms for playing with Ret? Kyrian > venthyr?

scarlet barn
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Kyrian/Necro

frosty locust
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Ty

sharp meteor
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Yeah, kyrian or necro. Venth doesn't bring much to the table right now aside from a little more uptime.

glass kelp
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whats the best soulbind for kyrian arms

elder wigeon
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they all work fine in all situations however, it's better to swap based on what you're playing into

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Mikanikos into everything except ferals and assassination rogues, for that you play kleia and use ascendant phial and hope springs

manic patio
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spear nerf sadge

lucid walrus
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where?

median shuttle
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do you mean the legendary?

leaden pasture
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the executioner buffs mortal strike after condemn or painbringer chance to add colusus smash or warbreaker for venthry 2v2 arms warrior

sharp meteor
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doesn't rly matter

elder wigeon
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probably executioner

leaden pasture
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kk

leaden pasture
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hey i cant tell what stat i should go for as venthyr most of the stats on murlok io are for kyrian crit warrriors

wheat jay
leaden pasture
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kk

sharp meteor
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vers > crit or haste > mastery

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really it doesn't matter much

leaden pasture
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kk

wicked magnet
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venthyr is crit, i mean isnt that what executioner is all about, that surprise burst

thick reef
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yeh it is

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FAT MS after u build up condmen stacks and it critting is dope

dry trail
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War hunter heal viable 3v3 ?

elder wigeon
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KFC is viable yes

sharp meteor
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Yep. Both classes seem like they have better comps but it works.

elder wigeon
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same as kitty cleave

marble marten
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i remember when this channel was active

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Sadge

scarlet barn
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But but

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You are monk

wet scarab
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Is it worth it in arena speccing into double time instead of storm bolt against some comps? I feel like the root from warbringer plus the extra damage can be more useful against melee dps targets but I don’t know if that’s a stupid idea or not. I can see it also making uptime a lot better against good kiting healer classes

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May even make it viable to go after mages as priority targets at times

sharp meteor
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I don't like the idea of not playing bolt especially with how breakneck things are

lucid walrus
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bolt's a bit too strong of a peel & setup tool to just lose

warped warren
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can play it into bm/rd as wd granted your rdruid plays kitty and stuns hunter for you

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appart from that, bolt is just too much value

wet scarab
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All good points, thanks for the advice folks

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I think I got carried away after killing a couple of rogues with warbringer

sharp meteor
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All CDS warbringer slaps

drowsy girder
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any good charge hamstring or charge PH macro that work

lucid walrus
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/cast charge
/cast hamstring

shy aurora
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Is it comp stomp brawl in a few days?

dry trail
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Does avoidance speed leech work in arena ? cause i have some pieces with extra stats but when im in arena it doesn't show on the stats sheet

wheat jay
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ok nvm

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they don't work on gear

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gems and enchants do tho

scarlet barn
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Angry cat cleave is future

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you heard it from me first

mint tinsel
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Fury warrior feral?

warped warren
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bis in slot

pale minnow
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Bruv... saw on 2.2 nightfae ret + fury warrior kyrian , dude missed spear i was on necro alt yet i died like shit from non burst, crazy :x no complains just claps wish to see more fury brothers rise

warped warren
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shit dude

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might be hidden meta

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spec

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!!!

pale minnow
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R1 dudes trying alot of fun things

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If someone is good with blizz over here tell em to merge the pvp lfg que's with the two factions, because alliance is dead

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I can't play arena, can't grind or can't even hardstuck if i cannot play the game lmao, i'm reading books while i wait on ques, it's this tragical

wheat jay
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swap to horde

twilit ridge
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kek

warped warren
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cool

elfin valve
thick reef
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o dope its a way for free gear right

sharp meteor
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Yeah, good honor. 1400 is 246 so you just queue like 10 games, get that, then comp stomp to upgrade all the gear you mailed over from other chars.

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You also get renown on wins so it'll be like super alt catchup week

wicked magnet
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what what, "all the gear you mailed over"

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what you mean gear you mailed over?

sharp meteor
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You can buy an item that generates a piece of random conquest gear for 375 conquest, and it's boa.

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So you shoot a dozen of those over, hopefully avoid getting too many duplicate slots, then get 1000, 1200 or 1400 rating to dump honor into t hem

thick reef
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yea

hasty hollow
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You need 1400 or 1600 on your main before you can mail over the BoAs?

sharp meteor
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It's 1600 to buy them, yeah.

sharp meteor
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Up by the flight point on the second floor of Oribos

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but only after Tuesday as it's coming in 9.1.5

fleet root
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Thnks

late prism
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Is it just random items from the vendor?

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or can you buy targeted

sharp meteor
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Random, unranked gear.

late prism
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So barely useful

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unless its for a completely fresh character

ember rose
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War ret better with necro or kyrian in 3s?

sharp meteor
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I mean 375 is pretty reasonable for a gamble and they made low rank conq gear super strong

sharp meteor
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Also if a char doesn't really benefit from them then that char is already probably geared enough

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and just needs some honor for upgrades

thick reef
wicked magnet
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says warriorsarri is playing half life 3 that doesnt exist right? xD

ember rose
thick reef
scarlet barn
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You didnt know?

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You living in cave or something?

wicked magnet
spice hornet
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spriest summons too many pets

fluid lichen
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can i just macro ignore pain into all my abilties?

sharp meteor
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Yes, but there are times where you'd prefer to pool rage in anticipation of bursting, namely if you think they'll dip into execute range.

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There's also slam during goes where you're ahead in momentum

fluid lichen
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but like i could just macro it into mortal strike, sweeping strikes, collosal smash, stuff like that right

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i dont have any more buttons for abilities

warped warren
sharp meteor
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I wouldn't advise it, but yes

fluid lichen
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im going to use this ok

sharp meteor
full quiver
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Yeah slicey that's what I did

warped warren
full quiver
warped warren
somber comet
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Guys come on

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This is a channel for help

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And he obviously needs help

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So help him

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Isn't that the point?

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SMH.

scarlet barn
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Correct answer was to, dont macro ignore pain to rotational abilities....plain and simple

floral ingot
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Macro dbts to mortal strike

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Be a man

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First mortal strike of the game you go all in

bleak sage
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Anyone done any testing of the go to leggo/cov for 9.1.5?

warped warren
twin owl
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Heya!
Time for stupid questions.
It seems like everybody is talking about a serious pvp and want to push high ratings.
So every info I find is from serious dudes to serious dudes 😄

But I'm not a serious dude, and don't search for the most effectiveness but for fun. More is better.

I want to play fury and mostly random bgs (maaaybe some rated arena for the gear, but nowadays I don't have plenty of time as I used to). No m+/raids (maybe occasionally, not a focus at all).
So far necro seems like a solid choice for that — banner is good, self-sustainability is pretty decent.
But is it me, or necro fury is a boring comp? Which cov you consider the most fun while playing random bgs and other kinds of low life pvp?

elfin valve
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play Kyrian + Leaper

twin owl
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Leaper is super fun, yea
But as I've been playing Venthyr priest since the beginning of SL I barely can stand the brightness of Kyrian location lmao

elfin valve
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well then play something with a darker fort? lol

twin owl
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Haha yea
Well, did I get it right that Venthyr's conduits and all that is a garbage for fury? Haven't touched new 9.1 mechanics yet.
Double Door of shadows and Leaper can make some fun together maybe.
Maybe even can find some use of Condemn for fury (which is almost useless, am I right?)
But totally have 0 idea about Venthyr's synergy with fury in general

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And guides tell it's bad for rated arena but can't find a single mention about low-life pvp 🙂

warped warren
wicked magnet
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oh for random bgs? why dont you just switch to arms and in 9.1.5 get that conduit thats being buffed which increases your damage when enemies are around you, i think fully upgraded its suppose to be like up to 20% extra condemn damage depending on number of enemies around you

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i think thats going to be fun in random bgs

dense spear
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Hey guys does the nerf to elysian might change anthing? should i still be going vers>crit

sharp meteor
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Big spear is still good. Crit or Haste is fine.

dense spear
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TY

wicked bison
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wish fury had dbts

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needs it

warped warren
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wish arms had a 90% slow

scarlet barn
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Wish warrior had button that does 100k dmg

thick reef
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same bro

thick reef
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so i got glad last season, and started to play again i got 2.1 as venthyr in 2s, i feel venthyr is okay in 2s but in 3s i take a lot of damage compared to other people with fleshcraft

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should i go necrolord

sharp meteor
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I queued into an arms/havoc playing Venth around 2.6-2.7 so it's not unplayable or anything

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but Kyrian and Necro are both better imo

drowsy girder
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/cast charge
/cast hamstring @lucid walrus Does not work

sharp meteor
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Hmm works on my machine

stray sapphire
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What’s the best comp for arms warrior 2v2?

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(Caster)

full quiver
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Necro feral druid

clear sparrow
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is demo+arms really that bad in 2s?

sharp meteor
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Sounds like a rough go.

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I've seen hybrids work, like enh/arms or feral/arms

drowsy girder
scarlet barn
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Actually

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Warrior in general doesnt work well without healer , so dont gimp yourself by going those comps

sharp meteor
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That one guy was playing double necro warr at like 2500

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In general though yeah healer or maybe hybrid

brazen dew
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Haven't pvp'd since SL season one, really. Does enrage buff shackles damage?

ember rose
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Nah enrage buffs only warrior abilities

scarlet barn
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In this case trinkets

barren hornet
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What leggo do we craft in 9.1.5 as necro?

scarlet barn
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Still the same

sharp meteor
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Enduring helm for pve dmg, mirror chest to protect self and team from wizards, chest sephuz perhaps for uhh cc heavy then unhinged on gloves for 1-shots or maybe into melee cleaves

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necro feels somewhat flexible in what it can play

graceful quarry
brazen dew
scarlet barn
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No

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Why would it

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@brazen dew hasnt been the case since legion ended

brazen dew
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Ah, that would explain that.

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I didn't play warrior in BFA.

bold swan
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Guys, what is the best choice for a healer for 2x2 as a warrior? My friend wants to level up one. It used to be pala i guess but i heard smth changed and now its druid or something else?

elder wigeon
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Rdruid >> Rsham > everything else

bold swan
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And 9.1.5 doesnot change much i guess? Thank you.

elder wigeon
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not enough, no

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pretty confident rdruid will be even better

sharp meteor
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Yeah, as he says. Either resto spec is super good.

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Arms/Rdruid just feels so strong

lucid walrus
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garms on the ladder?

urban jolt
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Just want that tabard

lucid walrus
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2.4? godspeed soldier

thick reef
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so is necro war the meta now ?

timid storm
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question, I'm 99% pve gear starting some pvp, is combatant pvp gear > 252 pve?

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about 10% vers at the mom with pvp trinks

sharp meteor
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lol no just use pve gear with pvp trinkets ya

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and necro warr was always solid everybody just only played kyrian for some reason with a few retwarrs going necro it seems?

elder wigeon
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the state of 2v2

full quiver
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Lol

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Just started trying to get my buddy 2.1 on his hpal and it's a little rough

sharp meteor
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i love getting swept and taking 200k dmg

fickle forge
thick reef
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how would i gear for pvp this far into expac? is honor gear still best way or could i use some raid gear for rated until i have enough conq

urban jolt
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ret war

fickle forge
scarlet barn
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Also they are making gaps smaller in ilvl

thick reef
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awesome

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thanks man :)

keen stone
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Fury or arms boys for pvp given the 45% increase auto attack dmg on fury coming in

halcyon lily
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Depens on what your goal is, but arms is the way to go for most people 🙂

keen stone
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Arenas mainly 2s

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However 45% base dmg seems pretty juicy given they already have decent sustain pressure

nimble jasper
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Not really

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no reliable ms is meh

urban jolt
keen stone
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Guess your points valid having to stack up rampage stacks for healing reduction

urban jolt
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That was

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1 MS

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Btw

scarlet barn
nimble jasper
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autos arent threats

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getting sharpened and fat executes is

scarlet barn
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🙃

keen stone
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Aiight cheers boys x

urban jolt
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I know

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I got knocked out of my spear so no EM buff

scarlet barn
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Frankly

nimble jasper
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gonna carry my friend for badge this week

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playing double monk 3s

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we gonna get so much flame

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lmao

scarlet barn
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And that is why arms is miles ahead

thick reef
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is murlok.io a good place to see what people are using or is there a better resource?

nimble jasper
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razonko this is how low mmr goes

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xuen on their dps keefers rsk

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healer panics trades big cd for that

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kill healer in a keefers bonedust sweep as soon as proc is acquired

keen stone
scarlet barn
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I want you to post defeat pic here

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And admit your mistakes

nimble jasper
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i mean ngl

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might lose to rmp cuz not very exp player

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into rmp

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bad times

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hehhee

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granted low rated rmps make my eyes bleed

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with how long their goes take to setup

warped warren
blazing carbon
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I really wish they fixed how everyone can walk out of the damn spear of bastion

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Even without a damn strinket 😂

scarlet barn
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Not everyone can 🙃

blazing carbon
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Aight, 80% of the game

warped warren
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simple

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reroll necro tomorrow

wicked bison
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what cov is best for fury pvp i was looking at the top dudes and they all had something diff

warped warren
scarlet barn
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Kyrian /necro

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but if you are playing fury in pvp you are already memeing, so migh as well try NF burst combo

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jaunty furnace
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I got to 2200 CR as NF fury! It’s not that bad!

warped warren
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woah

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i cannot believe it

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!

jaunty furnace
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@warped warren playing with a DH use aftershock the exact same moment when he uses hunt and one shot anyone. No one expects it!

lucid walrus
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guarantee they expect it

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they just can't react to it

scarlet barn
wicked magnet
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for example waking dreams i assume is nerfed in pvp?

lucid walrus
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by half, yeah

wicked magnet
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survivor's rally? maybe not nerfed in pvp because its a HoT?

lucid walrus
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you can just look up binds you're unsure on and see if they have modifiers on wowhead

wicked magnet
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oh nice ok thanks

mellow knot
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quick question about renown

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when 9.1.5 hits do i still need to farm renown to max on my alt if my main is 80 renown?

wicked magnet
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i think i recall reading something about being able to buy a renown boost for your alts i think it was to 40 renown?

sharp meteor
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Yeah, it's 500g from a vendor to skip to 40

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And by the time you're doing anything that matters you'll probably passively be like 60+

mellow knot
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i have a priest from last season with 226 ilvl so i kind of wanted to step into arena

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so i can change to necro, buy the boost to 40 atleast?

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and i dont have to do the campaign?

sharp meteor
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Yep.

mellow knot
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awesome

grand scaffold
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How much does a conquest box cost

scarlet barn
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👀

sharp meteor
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It was 375 and 1600+ cr, but might've changed. I'll go check real quick.

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Looks like it's still 375 but 1400+ CR

wicked bison
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oh

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my alts bout to get osme shit then

jolly marsh
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How much haste do you guys like to run?

wicked bison
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100%

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fuck cd

simple rock
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8-10% ish

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gameplay doesn't feel as fluid once I drop below that

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tbh might just go full haste necro to try something new

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i've thrown enough Spear

lucid walrus
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12% haste feels nice

spice hornet
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oh wtf

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I thought there was no other 2h other than mast/vers

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but just got a crit one in vault

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it also looks really dope

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nvm im dumb

hushed plank
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So when we cov swap our main which is already 80 renown will our renown still go to 0 on the swap ?

wicked magnet
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im confused i swapped covenants and im at 1 renown

pastel garden
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Yeah it will be. You buy an item for 500g to put it to 40.

wicked magnet
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oh i thought we were going to be able to carry over our renown xD

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damn and i have to do the campaign

warped warren
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no conq cap peepoHappy

simple rock
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why wasn't it like this a year ago greensloth

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blizzard weird

full quiver
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"we wanted to make covenant choices a meaningful decision"

simple rock
civic cloak
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you're not dumb

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it's new

wicked magnet
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great the one week i dont do any rated pvp

blazing carbon
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Is double time worth it against hunters? (HArd stuck 1750 , keep losing against shaman & hunter , basically just walking behind both, shaman & hunters

sharp meteor
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Maybe? I just played bolt every game

quasi lotus
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bolt every game

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use your mobility appropriately

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sham + hunter is not really a thing because priest + hunt and r dru hunt are like 50x better

sharp meteor
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Like I could maybe see a case for warbringer and double time for just doin dam and maintaining uptime but

pastel garden
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Bolt, honestly. Double time is just making it easier for the hunter.

sharp meteor
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yeah don't whiff mobility

simple rock
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a druid / hunter team made mag try double time one time I was watching

blazing carbon
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Okay, any tips on how to do the gos? They just keep dispelling the druid's heals, and slow me to death

simple rock
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can't say it made a difference though

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shaman for sure bolt is better

pastel garden
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I'm giggling as a hunter around 2.1k myself atm, nothing high but uhhhh. I've not really had troubles with warriors. Especially as I take ping pong trap (explosive).

quasi lotus
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Warr + R Dru is good into hunter unless the hunter is also playing with an R Dru

pastel garden
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So if anything, just stick to bolt.

sharp meteor
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Yeah I feel like arms/rdruid usually eats hunter teams unless they have an rdruid

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Felt warrior favored to me from both ends anyways

simple rock
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if shaman is just spamming purge you need to line during traps and play to oom sham

pastel garden
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@blazing carbon How is your warrior on the hunter? Take us through his general play.

quasi lotus
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With a rdruid you can just sweep and thorns on cd and kill the pet 3x

sharp meteor
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Yep. And just swap to pet when you either get kited for a second or the hutner is fully barked/hotted

blazing carbon
# pastel garden <@!456205110364733470> How is your warrior on the hunter? Take us through his ge...

Well to make it short:

We start the fight warriro gets a cenarion ward from the start, Rdruid goes stealth

BM start to use pet to hit him, he is hard slow, he charges on the Rshammy, I thorns and heal him from the damage

Deals some CC on the hunter, he pet stun me into freeze

Rshaman mass dispell all my HoTs so I gotta heal him once more , I root the shaman, get kicked by him, root again, get kicked by hunter, gotta use CC to get to heal my warrior

Eventually, we die because all my heals gets dispelled, and the Warrior just can't keep up against the Rshaman all walking out of his spears

sharp meteor
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hm

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why shaman over hunter

fickle forge
full quiver
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if shaman is running earth ele leggo

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u can walk rocky onto and break all traps

sharp meteor
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yeah i only saw like one or two bm/rsham teams

full quiver
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it's trash lol

sharp meteor
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yeah definitely not the ideal combo

full quiver
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it's how my buddy got 2.1 on his rsham and it was rough watching it

simple rock
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if you play reflect leggo you will reflect 90% of traps until 2400 unless you fight hunter teams that can actually cross cc

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which is rare

sharp meteor
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YEP

full quiver
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especially since our hunter would yolo traps into ele lmao

sharp meteor
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misshapen breaks their heads

sharp meteor
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So you can force feign with raw dam, then spear

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or spear then male provided the healer is in CC

gritty grove
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would the new 2H sword with crit/vers be better than the old vers/mastery 2H axe for arms

wheat jay
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Absolutely

lucid walrus
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ya

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we like crit a fair bit more

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obviously not worth a re-buy if you've got the axe though

simple rock
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if you like alts or need honor though it might not be worth, depends how much you wanna min max your stats

gritty grove
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ok thanks, is that the case also for necrolord war

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i know kyrian crit is great since they got the legendary

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i happen to just get the 2h sword from vault so got both ^^

simple rock
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yeah, you can go full haste or full crit as either kyrian or necro

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or mix

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everything works atm

gritty grove
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ok cheers

thick reef
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ok so um ui need 80 renown to swap covs without the trouble of releveling right

simple rock
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at 80 renown you can buy an item that gives you instant renown 40

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my understanding is that you still have to farm the rest

thick reef
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ok thanks what about swapping to covs u already were i got the quest handed to me when itried to go back to nerco\

simple rock
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you already kept whatever renown you were at before this patch pretty sure

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it's just that there's no penalty now

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can do it as much as you want

thick reef
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ok thanks

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ok

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so no quest right

simple rock
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shouldn't be

thick reef
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ty ty

simple rock
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wait there's 2400 gear upgrades now? LMFAO

wheat jay
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Only for pve

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It makes your gear scale to 249

sharp meteor
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It's just 3 pve ilevs

wheat jay
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Nothing is changing in pvp

sharp meteor
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Which is cringe it should be 252 in pve

wheat jay
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2.1k is still the highest

wheat jay
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Same as pve gear is not fully 259 in pvp

sharp meteor
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Yeah they also buffed sub duelist gear rather bigly

simple rock
#

oh, the tooltip is poorly worded then

wheat jay
#

It would only bring inbalance in both pvp and pve

sharp meteor
#

like 1400 is 246 lmaooo

wheat jay
#

They did say they would

#

Which is fine imo

elder wigeon
#

necrolord shield is so bad now lmao

wheat jay
#

Ilvl differences were too big

simple rock
#

cuz it says "PvP item level +3" then bottom part stays the same

wheat jay
#

Blizz always sucked with tooltips

#

Don't mind it

simple rock
sharp meteor
#

this is just mid-expansion tweaks to their latest system so yeah it's always super unclear

#

friend tested and said it doesn't affect pvp

#

i haven't queued elite game this week so i can't

#

but he said it's ui bug

#

we'll see tho lmaooo

simple rock
#

yeah I can't upgrade either

#

have barely touched pvp in the last month

mystic barn
#

@elder wigeon is it bad for druids now too

wheat jay
#

Its gotta be a bug

#

They cant make that shit out of nowhere mid season

sharp meteor
#

i wish it was real

#

so weird that elite is just 3 pve ilevs lmao

wheat jay
#

Its good

#

Dont need 2.4k giving higher ilvl

simple rock
#

2400 should never give you ilvl in pvp, it's really dumb

#

like s1 233 weap

wheat jay
#

Ye

sharp meteor
#

last season was the best thing ever

#

big wep

simple rock
#

bad for the game

wheat jay
#

Its bad

sharp meteor
#

highest pvp participation ever

simple rock
#

cuz the gear was good for pve

sharp meteor
#

rbgs actually alive

simple rock
#

that's it

wheat jay
#

Cuz season launched

sharp meteor
#

yea it was great

wheat jay
#

And pvp gear was bis in pve

sharp meteor
#

take me back

wheat jay
#

And shadowlands had one of the best starts

sharp meteor
#

so many rbg groups

simple rock
#

gear should literally never matter in pvp, if devs actually cared arena could be so good

wheat jay
#

Until people caught up on covenant cons

#

Gear should matter imo, but different between unranked and 2.1k should be like 10-15%

sharp meteor
#

i mean remove gear and people shift to blame spec balance

#

and their partners

#

never themselves

wheat jay
#

Not 50-80%

sharp meteor
#

and that's why they're the same rating regardless of system

simple rock
#

well that's their problem, but gear advantage is inherently bad for a competitive game

sharp meteor
#

nothing stopping them from putting the wod gear on vendors for free but it'd probably murder participation

#

because most people don't just wanna climb cr

simple rock
#

ya

#

wow players just want their mogs/mounts/pve gear

sharp meteor
#

people need a goal and rated just isn't for most people

#

no it's chores/power

#

no power gain and people lose interest

#

there's no "maybe it'll be better when I'm geared" and when they get 1-shot in bis they just quit

wheat jay
#

People will always complain

thick reef
#

ya pvp is so wild rn with gear and that

wheat jay
#

No matter what the system is

simple rock
#

well no one should get one shot with even gear, that's another bad part of the game atm

thick reef
#

yeah it is

sharp meteor
#

people said they wanted fast paced games and that's what we have

#

in wod u could literally afk and take 10 seconds to die

#

er bfa

wheat jay
#

Ye which is better than bfa

simple rock
#

there's a middle ground though

wheat jay
#

Fast games require more burst and dmg

sharp meteor
#

random bgs were awful just people taking years to die

wheat jay
#

It is what it is

simple rock
#

but they don't care enough to balance it yeah

sharp meteor
#

this is the middle ground

#

people dying instantly 90% of the time could've been avoided

wheat jay
#

You dont usually die instantly

sharp meteor
#

like hey warbreaker conq banner avatar badge blood fury and he stunned me with an execute proc

simple rock
#

i'm mainly talking about 30k+ executes, ww burst, ret pally, most other burst is fine

sharp meteor
#

i wonder if i should press a button

nimble jasper
#

rbgs are clown fiesta bracket

wheat jay
#

People just dont adapt to meta, currently you dont hold cds

sharp meteor
#

or hey the rogue stunned my whole team and the mage is on fire

wheat jay
#

You need to trade

sharp meteor
#

do i sit this kidney hmm

wheat jay
thick reef
#

DO I DISPELL BUST

#

OR LET THE MAGE PVE ME and see what happens

ember rose
wheat jay
#

People underestimate dmg this season and they die

nimble jasper
#

ngl i watched a clip of a 2.5 rsham

#

decide to not trinket link early

#

when both his dps dont have stops for mg

#

and bust is up

sharp meteor
#

yeah important to establish some dmg foresight

nimble jasper
#

hmm im getting bust mindgames

#

gonna sit kidney

#

xd

wheat jay
#

That's on him :)

#

99% of oneshots can be stopped by playing well in this meta

nimble jasper
#

well

#

early season ret was something

#

with divine toll machinegun

#

otherwise yeah

wheat jay
#

Im saying right now

sharp meteor
#

sometimes u just die by 90%+ of the time there was something that could've been done to avoid it

wheat jay
#

This moment in the season

sharp meteor
#

like voke feral kills u in half a second before u trinket kick

#

gg go next

nimble jasper
#

yeah basically

simple rock
#

trade properly when he smokebombs and then die to duel yep

#

that's the classic for me

sharp meteor
#

at least they fixed flag

nimble jasper
#

even monk is idk for me

#

respond to bonedust

#

but people panic to just xuen

wheat jay
#

Look at omnibar

#

Track shit

sharp meteor
#

So there's the crane kick proc weakaura

#

then bonedust CD which is 60s same with sweep

frail light
#

What is going to be the best covenant for fury pvp and pve

thick reef
#

true

sharp meteor
#

xuen is 120s I think and then they have 2 charges of clones

nimble jasper
#

yeah i dont really die to it

thick reef
#

they do

sharp meteor
#

so it's basically just BIG 1 minute go

thick reef
#

2 charge

sharp meteor
#

kind of like ret?

nimble jasper
#

xuen is the weakest of the cds

sharp meteor
#

but yeah big go every minute

#

fish for proc, clones, keefers, bone dust, sweep then unga bunga

nimble jasper
#

yah just weird to me when i can bait cds with only xuen

#

like bruh wat

wheat jay
sharp meteor
#

i have seen people use cds

wheat jay
#

A lot of people play necro now

sharp meteor
#

to fire eaters vial

simple rock
#

someone told me early s2 that xuen is just bait now

sharp meteor
#

or necro rp banner

#

the one that doesn't do anything

simple rock
#

never use cds for xuen, only bonedust pretty much

nimble jasper
#

it is

sharp meteor
#

yeah people dont generally run vokers

#

in s1 people stacked them and xuen/tony was the "care" cd

nimble jasper
#

xuen does less than a bm pet

thick reef
#

yea

sharp meteor
#

now u can spook cds with tony

#

although the dmg amp is still good

nimble jasper
#

even in s1 you could argue

#

xuen was only the big cd cuz it bloodlusted the monk

#

not the cds actual damage

thick reef
#

yea

#

gotta remebmer the good s1 days

#

when monks were kyrian and used invokers

#

i dont think 1 shot sck was a thing back then

untold pumice
#

Quick 1, as I cant see it on the guide part - as kyrian, who am I using : pelagos, kleia or mikanikos? New to pvp side of warrior things

sharp meteor
#

oh it killed you, it's just there wasn't bonedust

#

and people didn't play keefers generally

manic patio
#

Is it still worth going Elysian might in 2s?

sharp meteor
#

of course, unless you're queuing into something that think can negate a lot of spear value

vapid radish
#

Did Kyrian get nerfed in pvp or is it still bst?

wheat jay
#

Kyrian and necro are both very good

#

Equally good even

#

So take what you want

vapid radish
#

cool

elder wigeon
#

kyrian spear crit damage got nerfed

#

necrolord fleshcraft got severely nerfed

#

it's like 17K lol

wheat jay
#

30% of HP

#

It won't cripple warrior

#

But will severely hit other classes

#

Which is good

#

Ez openers on monks now

sharp meteor
#

druid players in shambles

#

feral in particular I'm curious to see

#

no BIG flesh, dot nerfed, offhealing nerfed

elder wigeon
#

i mean my fleshcraft before was 30K

#

little more actually

sharp meteor
#

probs still high tier

elder wigeon
#

feral frenzy buffed though since the tigers fury conduit got fixed

wicked magnet
#

oh i can no longer upgrade my gear without playing weekly matches?

elder wigeon
#

it was like that in 9.1

sharp meteor
#

It was meant to be like that in 9.1 BUTTTTT the whole season counted as 1 week

#

So yeah back to a weekly win for upgrades

wheat jay
#

Wait they made it like this now?

#

Lmao took them long enough

sharp meteor
#

Until this patch 9.1 was considered by the system to be one week

#

Which is why your weekly matches were the same as seasonal matches

#

So you needed a weekly win, but the whole season was 1 week

#

Idk how it took them this long to fix it or why they even fixed it but whatever

wheat jay
#

Not gonna change much xd

nimble jasper
#

prob accidental

#

tbh

#

I will say tho, played around 2.1 mmr 2s on alt a few weeks ago and my god

#

people are legit clueless

#

rdruids skinning air

sharp meteor
#

YEP LOL

buoyant shale
#

anyone know when the season is supposed to end

wheat jay
#

Probably in like 4 months xD

buoyant shale
#

oh god

#

im duelest this season, looks like i cant upgrade unless i win a game in my bracket?

gloomy warren
#

i think you can send your new pvp alts conquest boxes or something now yeah? across account?

nimble jasper
vapid radish
#

mikanikos is best soulbind???

sharp meteor
#

perhaps

small silo
#

idk if i should ask here or transmog but they added a sword to the pvp vendor is there a elite or 2.1 rating color for it ?

sharp meteor
#

yeah same color as the other elite weps which is white/blue/silver

#

check appearance journal, just punch in "unchained" into 2h sword

#

they added a feral staff as well that uses the kel'thuzad model

thick reef
#

duelist is still 2.1 right

#

no new rating for it or anything

worldly quest
#

Anyone thinking about going Venthyr?

sharp meteor
#

I think that Necro and Kyrian are still better.

sharp meteor
elder wigeon
#

I'll be playing venthyr only in 2's pretty much

#

fuck kyrian in 2's, too many rdruids and hunters

elfin valve
#

feel like I got a downgrade or…more honor to spend? I was 4/5 on all my gear and then thinking I’d get 2.1 and upgrade to max.

Now I’m 6/9 on everything same ilvl

#

6/9, nice lol

sharp meteor
#

dude

#

nice

plain island
#

hey guys i just hit 60 and need some advice for my covenant im tryna to do single target pvp

#

what would be the best?

sharp meteor
#

What is single target pvp friend

plain island
#

cant decide between Venthyr or night fae

#

like aoe or single target

#

like i wanna make a build that focuses on targeting one enemy at a time

sharp meteor
#

unless they un-nerfed armor this patch

#

I'd just go with necro

small silo
#

does the kyrian legendary nerf change anything ?

sharp meteor
#

Not really.

lucid walrus
#

it changes the 25% extra crit damage to 15% extra crit damage

#

long story short, no

small silo
#

cool cool ty

plain island
#

whats the best pvp weapon to buy from the honor vendor?

sharp meteor
#

idk just buy and don't upgrade

#

get conq one asap

#

ideally skip honor wep entirely

plain island
#

so dont spend any upgrades on honor gear qait for conq gear?

elfin valve
#

well yea normally

#

but it’s comp stomp week

#

so if you want to, you can grind hella honor

wicked bison
#

177 is 213 in pvp conq is 220

#

Am I wrong? But isn't fully upgraded honor just 220

robust hearth
#

what soulbind for kyrian warrior with spear leggo in rated bgs?

elfin valve
#

yea it’s worse gear for sure, it’s just if you have no gear and want to waste honor - this is the week to recover from it

#

otherwise yep, conq for gear honor for upgrades

wicked bison
#

I think it would make sense to only spend it if you are near cap

#

There'd a few weekly for conq this week

#

Quests

plain island
#

how do you get conquest points?

robust hearth
#

gotta do RATED pvp

#

i.e. 2s/ 3s arenas

#

or rated battlegrounds

plain island
#

does anyone have a team for rated bgs?

sharp meteor
#

u want high volume of low mmr wins

simple rock
#

just have good gear and 1 shot ppl in low rbgs

#

or ask your ret pally friend

plain island
#

LOL

#

is ret pally best for pvp rn?

wicked magnet
#

what is this new dead appearance

#

i hate it

#

its all blue and fuzzy

simple rock
#

idk about best but they seem really good in rbgs from what I've seen

#

crazy burst in team fights

hushed plank
#

For Necro are we still running battlelord as our main leggo on wrist ?

sharp meteor
#

are people playing battlelord?

simple rock
#

but top 50 is almost all kyrian so not a huge sample size

sharp meteor
#

is there a goddamn

#

panda in top 50

simple rock
#

yes

sharp meteor
#

legendary

simple rock
#

there's no human

#

how are there no humans rofl

#

ally dead af

sharp meteor
#

cringe gamer dad faction

simple rock
#

I like to think all those non human ally are really human but they race changed before quitting for the meme

grand scaffold
#

How do you spend conquest on alts?

full quiver
#

Lol

sharp meteor
#

so there's a vendor by the fp in oribos

#

u buy a loot crate for 375 conq

#

then mail it over

grand scaffold
#

fp?

#

whats that

sharp meteor
#

Flight point

grand scaffold
#

oh ok

hushed plank
#

So necro arms what are we running for legendary the pins said battlelord on 10/16

sharp meteor
#

didn't realize that's what some people played because i haven't seen it

#

except on like one guy

#

maybe it's better or similar to enduring?

thick reef
#

lol mm are so stupid rapid fire 60k keill both healer and myself at the start..

sharp meteor
#

lmao wanna know an epic gamer move, use at focus binds for shots

#

so they think you're unloading on the dps but SIKE all the shots are going into the healer

#

just need to make sure the arrow hits them

crude stag
#

hey nerds

#

did they change the amount of honor it takes to go from unrated max rank?

#

or does it still suck?

sharp meteor
#

Uh, I think it's cheaper if you exclude elite.

#

Honor is probably going to be the issue for most people.

#

They buffed bg/arena conq gains by aanother 25%

crude stag
#

hmm

#

idk why they don't just buff it a shit ton, that shit was a slog and the only way people wanna keep playing a patch this long is to gear alts

sharp meteor
#

Yeah idk maybe they will when people realize that it's mostly just honor in the way

#

Otherwise this patch is insane lmao

crude stag
#

yeah good stuff all around

sharp meteor
#

Yeah just a shame we had to wait an entire goddamn year

#

Game might not be in shambles if it shipped like this

elder wigeon
#

i honestly think sephuz is undervalued right now

#

as necro

sharp meteor
#

I've been thinking the same thing, but haven't played unhinged enough to know how that compares.

crude stag
#

yeah idk if its enough to make me come back and play alts but at least it's not AS bad if i do

sharp meteor
#

Sephuz is actually solid dmg off the stats AND it's less time in cc, and stacks with hardiness

tired portal
#

since we can swap covenants as we like now, would it be venthyr for 2's and kyrian/necro for 3's (depends on comp) ?

elder wigeon
#

pretty much

vernal plank
#

what lego for venth 2s?

elder wigeon
#

sephuz if orc or executioner would be my top 2

sharp meteor
#

I'd just go sephuz for orc, and mirror into hunters

elder wigeon
#

sephuz stacks with the snare/root duration reduction

#

25% reduction roughly

vernal plank
#

thats big

sharp meteor
#

Honestly enduring might also be solid

lucid walrus
#

i've never swapped off enduring or mirror for 2s tbh

simple rock
#

I'm gonna craft a 262 sephuz for rmp

#

idk what else I'd run it vs

warped warren
#

sephuz into rogues

crisp jewel
#

I know everyone shits on fury cause arms has dbts/ds and better ip, but as venthyr fury w death sentence I stay on target no matter what when others are rp walking . Does anyone play fury seriously or is it only for dummies like me?

wheat jay
#

Iirc there are few fury warriors above 2.4k

#

But overall its for dummies

#

Especially condemn

#

As far as I know most play necro or kyrian

barren hornet
#

Do you think its a good choice to go venthyr for 2s until max gear level? Or necro is still better

wary harbor
#

Why should necro be better than venthyr in 2s?

elder wigeon
#

necro shield is pretty shit right now honestly

#

17K lol

barren hornet
#

Do we still go crit as venthyr?

warped warren
#

out of pvp

elder wigeon
#

it gets clamped to 30% bro

#

it's 17K trust me

#

i had two full fleshcrafts earlier, 30K healing for the both of them

warped warren
#

cope

elder wigeon
#

druids can cheese it still by fleshcrafting as the gates open but any after is gonna be 17-25K

warped warren
#

@elder wigeon 🤔

#

or nvm

#

i pressed it twice

elder wigeon
#

i told you bro

quasi lotus
#

simple maff

frozen shore
#

As necrolord warrior, is there any preference whether I should go Battlelord or Enduring Blow? Should battlelord be crafted with vers/haste?

warped warren
#

any leggo you make

#

is haste vers

frozen shore
#

So necrolord in general prefers haste over crit?

warped warren
#

yes

ancient sonnet
#

is the new sword the play now since it's crit/vers instead of mast/vers?

sharp meteor
#

Looks like.

#

So neat that they added PvP tints of a bunch of raid weps.

ancient sonnet
#

Yea it looks badass too

full quiver
#

Yeah I got it in vault today lol

#

Thanks blizz. Thing looks really good with current pvp enchant too

small silo
#

Does anybody know where to go to change cov or is it in the same room as before in Oribos

sharp meteor
#

Same place as before.

#

Talk to an npc, confirm or w/e and poof you're the new covenant. Just run to their hall and it takes like 10 seconds to unlock all the soulbinds I think.

ancient sonnet
#

scroll up like 2 lines

small silo
#

Thank you

worldly quest
#

I plan on just playing my warrior alt in only 2s. Going venthyr so it’s safe to assume vers>crit>haste?

#

With enduring or executioner?

wicked magnet
#

im not the only one seeing a new death effect when you die right? like instead of black and white, its blueish, blurry, dark edges, lines all over the place

#

i fking hate it

worldly quest
#

Then don’t die. You’re welcome 🙂

sharp meteor
#

Idk I have death effect disabled lol

wicked magnet
#

how do i disable it?

sharp meteor
#

/console ffxDeath 0 I think?

wicked bison
#

just tried aftershock it hits like a wet noodle what am i missing

wicked magnet
#

it looks like this

sharp meteor
#

oh idk that's just the SL one

wicked magnet
#

ive never had that look until patch 9.1.5

wicked bison
#

we can fly now

open glacier
#

in dummies. Rextroy video inc

#

1 WW = 46k

wicked magnet
#

whats that, merciless bonegrinder?

#

no must be something extra right

sharp meteor
#

delet this

wheat jay
#

Ok dummies tho

#

Not that easy to pull off on players

sharp meteor
#

honestly all cds as necro with unhinged bladestorm

#

thena random 25k whirlywind out might b cool

warped warren
#

BONEGRINDER META CONDUIT!?

sharp meteor
#

i could see it

#

unhinged storm of destruction

wheat jay
#

Are you guys joking

#

Its dumb

open glacier
wheat jay
#

There is a reason noone plays it and noone did

#

Also, how long of a setup?

#

:)

wheat jay
warped warren
#

actually

sharp meteor
#

Uhhh a meme 1-shot wouldn't work in actual games imo too telegraphed

warped warren
#

bonegrinder storm reverb leggo

#

into demo

#

🐵

#

or bm

#

⏯️

sharp meteor
#

The funny thing with collateral damage though is that a lot of people only use the Warbreaker WA

warped warren
#

or ww

open glacier
#

full built, 15 seconds with 13 stacks

warped warren
open glacier
#

in a real situation u can get 7-8

#

but that would be 30k ww

#

instead of 46

fierce elm
#

Then disarm and its all hone

#

gone*

sharp meteor
#

The thing is that most people aren't aware of it

fierce elm
#

They are gonna disarm your colossus smash in this case, rendering the whole thing useless

#

Because you aint getting 7-8 stacks against a ranged comp

open glacier
#

u dont get this build vs a ranged comp

#

well, maybe hunter

sharp meteor
#

yeah wouldn't even try this versus a ranged team that doesn't have a pet

fierce elm
#

You dont get it versus anything then

wicked magnet
#

but

fierce elm
#

Any melee team has a) a warrior or b) a WW

sharp meteor
#

definitely at least trying it though

wicked magnet
#

collateral damage you have to be hitting a 2nd target with sweeping strikes, if you arent using warbreaker whats the point xD

open glacier
#

it's just a meme build

#

I know its not competitive

#

take that in mind

#

this is just for rextroy to record some vids lol

sharp meteor
#

hm yeah my one big ww on two dummies hit for 70k with no crits

open glacier
#

I wonder if this is competitive in m+

fierce elm
#

probs not

#

Warbreaker is so fucking huge

#

and getting 1 WW off in a pack probably will be ass

open glacier
#

MAYBE in rbg is usefull

warped warren
#

im really with lawkh on this

#

i think hes onto something

fierce elm
#

@warped warren stop

warped warren
#

???

#

what do you mean

sharp meteor
#

It really could be fine, the conduit.

fierce elm
#

I need you to stop farming comp stomp

sharp meteor
#

Collateral seems kind of iffy.

open glacier
#

with just the conduit, WW hits harder than MS, no OP/sharpen/mortal combo

#

like 15-20%

#

maybe conduit+FoB is the play?

sharp meteor
#

really curious to try in those matchups that last a while

mystic barn
#

Then u can ww

uncut lantern
#

play with seismic reverberation, sweeping strike charge, bladestorm on double melee, grip in the healer, CS into WW on 3 targets for an extra 80% hit.

fierce elm
#

@mystic barn CEASE

sharp meteor
#

trinket parry first cc/disarm that hits u

#

send the dam

fierce elm
#

Until WW disarms through parry cus why not

sharp meteor
#

yeah monk so cringe

#

but bolt goes through stuff like evasion so i guess it's only fair

uncut lantern
#

play with Anger Management

#

do your stuff every 30 seconds

full quiver
#

Afro doesn't even play the game

#

I'm sure the build will work great 👍

sharp meteor
#

Is this truly the play, anger mangement, unhinged, storm of destruction and a whirlywind conduit

uncut lantern
#

Nah, go all out, not unhinged. "Seismic Reverberation" leggy!

open glacier
#

and mecanikos with kirian leggo to pump harder and nothing can scape

wide saffron
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isw kyrian still good after new patch?

sharp meteor
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why wouldn't it be

open glacier
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in pvp the only change is necro being weaker

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cos of shield nerf

wicked bison
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didnt they nerf vanq hammer?

sharp meteor
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They nerfed the conduit by half in pvp, I think?

wicked bison
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still hitten for 15k plus

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i think they only nerfed it for prot this hapl im with is wrecking with it

mystic barn
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will ww build hit harder on fury

wheat jay
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Tbh this channel should be fully nuked again and never revived again to stop the spread of misinformation :)

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Shut up qcp

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Dont troll people even harder

warped warren
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guys

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i have a question

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uhm

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so i had this crazy idea of macroing Ip to overpower?

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is that any good?

full quiver
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it's pretty good

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i suggest doing it into every ability

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so you don't have to worry about your defensives

warped warren
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nice

wheat jay
warped warren
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so even mortal strike or?

full quiver
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yes

sharp meteor
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imagine not binding die by the sword into mortal strike

warped warren
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nice

sharp meteor
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SEND

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IT

warped warren
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cool thank you

full quiver
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then you can do this while u spam MS and execute

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put hamstring in there too

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it's called a "swifty button"

wheat jay
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Hamstring deez coffee grounds @full quiver

sharp meteor
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i queued into a fdk in bfa s4 who has ams, ibf and all his dmg cds bound into medallion

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walks in gets hit by a slow and presses literally every button at once

robust hearth
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Wat soul bind to use for kyrian arms for rated bgs using spear leggo

blazing carbon
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Kleya makes a good off heal

frail light
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What is best covenant for warrior?

scarlet barn
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Kyrian/Necro

urban jolt
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!

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Necro owns

frail light
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Gonna have to try necro but will it be viable on pve aswell 😮

knotty atlas
mystic barn
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has anyone tested ww build yet

worldly quest
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After the nerf to executioner is it still BIS for venthyr or is it enduring now as well?

sharp meteor
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Was it nerfed?

worldly quest
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In PvP it’s 36% per stack

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And enduring is a straight up 30% buff for 6 seconds

gloomy warren
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is there a go to arms "rotation" in pvp? Or prio abilities, venthyr btw but prolly gonna swap necro really shortly.

hushed plank
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What is the go to leggo for Necro war? Enduring , Battlelord or Unhinged thanks in advance !

wheat jay
worldly quest
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The pins are off so that’s why people keep asking. For example no top warrior runs battlord anymore as necro, it’s all enduring.

scarlet barn
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Not too off

sharp meteor
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Conflicting info leads to questions yeah like I don't think I've seen battlelord played except by one guy

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I just assumed enduring would be better after the tweak it got

elfin valve
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leaper bis

sharp meteor
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Didn't they gut its interaction with barbarian

elfin valve
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(actually I’m a warrior alt ret main so ignore most of if not all of what I say)

scarlet barn
sharp meteor
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Idk just what I heard because I never bothered making a pair as they seemed troll for anything except maybe rbg cheese

elfin valve
graceful quarry
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imagine playing ret

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im disgusted

tardy kestrel
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Lf 2s exp 2.3 arms blackrock

graceful quarry
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are you the arms warrior or looking for an arms warrior

elfin valve
scarlet barn
undone sage
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il guess eu, horde, hes the arms warr LF healer

scarlet barn
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👀

undone sage
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name doesnt look american, and eu blackrock is basically horde only server, then he sais lf 2s, exp 2.3, arms, blackrock

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thats the feeling atleast ^^

scarlet barn
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BUT STILL JUST A GUESS

undone sage
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an educated guess!

scarlet barn
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Guess nonetheless

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Also guy Just comes in , posts , and leaves

undone sage
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@tardy kestrel help me out here

scarlet barn
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Kinda weird

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this was in arms

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🙃

undone sage
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1/3 CORRECT!

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:<

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tbh i just feel good that we can get halfway upgrades now if not 2.1, as warr i feel ilvl rly scales well. its like, queueing at 1.9 or 2k mmr: booster (259), glad alts, booster, legit team just trying to also get 2.1, glad alts, legit team, booster.. etc

sharp meteor
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I've queued into relatively few boosters, and they usually have a dead weight buyer.

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More often than not it's just somebody who bought a carry and is tanking down.

undone sage
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hmm, the ones i faced, i mean u just see it by their hp and also ofc in the way they play, u check-pvp them and theyre 259 and much higher in 3s, this or are alts of same class mains with much higher rating. even tho ur getting ur ass kicked, u feel u have a fair chance atleast if theyre not max geared. maybe 2/3 of what i faced was this, maybe 50%

short crag
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what covenant do y'all run for turbocleave? want to learn warrior to play with a friend, but couldn't find anything in the guide about what cov to go for turbo

sharp meteor
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Kyrian feels nice for locking people down in doom winds/ascend.

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Necro banner also interesting because of all the extra procs it gives your sham

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Idk probably Kyrian but it sort of depends on what you're queuing into

thick reef
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ya gen kyrian better because it goes good with doomwinds cuz its 1 min spear with 1 min doomwinds