pvp

[sharp meteor]

especially if they reduce the icd on the spear pull although that's probably not too likely

[full quiver]

the 8s stuck in place is why it's so good

[thick reef]

yeah u do, im debating to go back kyrian or if is should stay for ww/warr

[proven maple]

If I could swap between kyrian and necro depending on the comp I’m facing that’d be ideal. Buttttt that’s not a thing.

[warped warren]

@calibri

@rovicus

[sharp meteor]

[pale minnow]

rip

[pale minnow]

they gone bro, drop some last tears for them and carry on

no glad rules forever

[warped warren]

ill never forgetti the spaghetti glads

[fluid lichen]

XD

[wheat jay]

we still need some active glads here

ones that give advice different than ZUG ZUG

[pale minnow]

Yesterday I waited 6 h in que 2.1 cr , only to play one game and kick turbo glad asses... lfg sucks in alliance, there is noone to play with, we need a solution for this faction restricted bs

[elder wigeon]

in the mean time go horde

[pale minnow]

In the mean time fuck horde, i can't play my beloved faction where my friends are? Because the majority of the playerbase is shrekk-maniac? Just fix the game simple as that, make mercenary possibility in ques like for horde in bgs, i don't think it hurts for a multi BILLIONER company

[graceful quarry]

ok but go horde

turn 6hr q into 6min q

[pale minnow]

The game isn't only about arena to go horde for a 6 min que time... would it be fun if all the players would be horde? Think about it as horde you can face horde in arena and as oposite too, as alli can face alli, why not merge the ques for arenas????

[graceful quarry]

bc blizz is dumb

[wheat jay]

looking at the current state of the game, it would be fun if all the players went horde

[pale minnow]

It would be dog shit, because i love to world-pvp too, some crazy group vs group or raid vs raid alli vs horde is super fun it happens often in korthia

[wheat jay]

fun is subjective

I for one don't care at all about world pvp, and all people being horde would mean more people to choose from when queueing for arenas

thus, making it more fun

[pale minnow]

Yeah but this is more often then a 6h or 6 min wait time, i can put this as an objective opinion, that imagine a bunch of people do world pvp with alts and mains..

[fluid lichen]

world pvp is a awesome idea in theory, in reality it never really turns out to be a fun or enjoyable experience for the majority of the players, its just the nature of it

[knotty atlas]

TBF the faction topic is a bigger issue and is causing concerns in all content of the games. 😦

[fluid lichen]

whats extra not fun is segregating half of your community for no actual mechanical reason

[graceful quarry]

world pvp would be fun if shards didnt lag with 10+ players

[brave halo]

wish they woul dmake some more meaningful world objectives again like in tbc

[fluid lichen]

i would rather be able to q arena/rbg with both factions at once

than have world pvp

[brave halo]

had some great times in nagrand back in the day

[fluid lichen]

that is gonna be dog shit anyway

[brave halo]

or maybe some scarce mobs that drop some vital things like the tbc elementals

[scarlet barn]

What happened to @calibri 👀

[graceful quarry]

you have a paladin right

should try prot pala instead of prot warr

ppl will love u for it in arena

[knotty atlas]

It's on Alliance. 👀

[graceful quarry]

f

[brave halo]

If only paladin could be orc 😛

[pale minnow]

Hell! even nazjatar was fun when you had to occupy the map points, if these objectives would be more rewarding everyone would do it

[knotty atlas]

I like the idea of World PvP but probably only because i'm nostalgic about STV/Booty Bay.

[knotty atlas]

Apparently banned.

[pale minnow]

Why?

[fluid lichen]

cali was giving competitive advice ruthlessly to a player who didnt really see the game the same way as him

[graceful quarry]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [redacted] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[fluid lichen]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [redacted] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[pale minnow]

Bruh... this seems very familiar

[graceful quarry]

no idea what you mean

[somber comet]

It's just the tragedy of Calibri the Wrath glad.

It's not a story us Skyholdians would tell you.

[graceful quarry]

who is calibri the wotlk glad

does he have a story?

[somber comet]

It's not one the Skyholdians will tell you.

[pale minnow]

Darth Calibri, i found the true source

[somber comet]

But he could save others from being bad

But not himself.

[scarlet barn]

Indeed question is.. why

[leaden pasture]

my 2s is higher then my 3s i dont know why but i get caught lackin in the field when i get stunned in bstance

[somber comet]

I would suggest recording a few games and putting them in review.

But I think one of our main reviewers is no longer with us.

[knotty atlas]

I'm not 100% sure but if i'm looking his last messages from this channel he was calling someone who came in here asking for advise bad and not providing any actual feedback which later turned into personal insults.

[modern geyser]

Yo anyone know if bm hunter pet (the 120 focalisation one) is always categorize as arenapet1 or not? (wanna make swap pet more efficient)

[wheat jay]

being toxic in pvp is part of the game

can't be competitive without bit of toxicity 😄

also, is calling someone bad toxic?

[somber comet]

Sadly I think this is going to end up like all the other discords.

[knotty atlas]

Sure, but the point of this channel is to help people get better.
Being a new person coming into the channel looking for advise and being greeted by how bad they are is not the point of the channel.

[wheat jay]

first step to improvement is accepting how bad you are

[knotty atlas]

If they come asking for advise then they probably know that they are lacking some information. 👀

[twilit ridge]

Git Gud

[somber comet]

Well, we used to have quite a few people who spoke besides Calibri.

A lot of good advice was shared and it's sort of sad to see everybody kinda gone.

[wheat jay]

used to

[somber comet]

Other discords were nowhere near as helpful and now we're just like them.

[twilit ridge]

^

Have y'all seen the Ret section of pally discord

[graceful quarry]

yes

[twilit ridge]

I always vouched for warr discord because you'd get responses and help

But I noticed over the years it's grown more and more toxic

[somber comet]

Well we were one of the only active discords.

You go to Rogue or Paladin and they're ghost towns.

[twilit ridge]

My friend said in ret discord it's just screeching or dead

[graceful quarry]

who did he even insult lol

[somber comet]

Yeah. Though if we're gonna talk about other discords

We might have to go to #off-topic

[twilit ridge]

True

[somber comet]

Don't want another Darth Calibri

This is supposed to be a place for PvP after all.

Looks in off topic and sees twerking pumpkins.

My kind of party.

Wait I can't use that emoji.

[safe kelp]

On multiple targets, does it make sense to sweeping strike before Bladestorm?

[somber comet]

Well, Sweeping is a 2 target cleave.

Bladestorm is an AoE (5 targets)

...

SIM IT

[twilit ridge]

I can't remember it's been a hot minute but there may have been an interaction with unhinged MS

[somber comet]

So, think of it in parts.

Unhinged uses MS.

[twilit ridge]

I don't remember if it's a thing or not though

[somber comet]

MS is a single target.

Activate sweeping strikes to make regular MS hit 2 targets.

So

[twilit ridge]

^ that's what it was

[somber comet]

If you hit 2 targets with sweeping MS

Then you Unhinged bladestorm with sweeping up

And the system attacks with MS

[twilit ridge]

It's been a long time since I've played oh man

[somber comet]

See, that's the issue we have nowadays. All the people who played got banned or just stopped posting.

So we have no relevant information.

(But that one was easy just think for a moment.)

(Think, Mark!)

[safe kelp]

Soo, Im trying to understand what you were saying. What is unhinged?

[somber comet]

Unhinged is a legendary.

[graceful quarry]

a legendary

[twilit ridge]

Legendary

[somber comet]

Gives Bladestorm 2 MS procs when used

We have guides in the pins.

[twilit ridge]

I think magnusz might have a vid on it

[somber comet]

Or they might be deleted with the channel purge.

[safe kelp]

im afraid to ask questions now.. Without the unhinged leggo, does it make sense to sweep bladestorm multiple targets?

[graceful quarry]

no

it doesnt sweep

since its not a st ability

[safe kelp]

I see. Thank you! 😄

[somber comet]

Don't be afraid to ask questions. Most of us are here to help.

[scarlet barn]

But did you ever hear the tragedy ....

[graceful quarry]

of arcana the wise

or calibri the wotlk glad

[safe kelp]

Is there any way for my opponents to escape the spear of bastion?

[somber comet]

Yes.

Hunters can feign death, Priests can greater fade.

Druids are the privileged children

So sometimes they get out for free too

[leaden pasture]

when are they doing dual covenant im trying to go kyrian seems pvp arms warrior do that but im venthyr and i will lose 71 renown

[safe kelp]

What about rogue cloak ?

[quasi lotus]

yes cloak

[safe kelp]

Does the Holy priest pvp talent where they fly into the air still fly if they were in spear when they flew?

[wheat jay]

you mean freely swapping between covenants?

9.1.5

aka noone knows when

[brave halo]

ive seen them do it, dunno if they need to fade before

[scarlet barn]

Soon it seems

[warped warren]

our humble boy cali of the brie would never personally attack anyone, its against his glad code

#freecalibri 🐦

[stone cairn]

what is the burst rotation for arms (including orc racial) and what in it you guys macro together?

[mint tinsel]

You could do like war breaker badge of ferocity I think and orc racial and if you really wanted avatar since it’s off gcd. But I think keeping avatar and Warbreaker separate is probably better

[stone cairn]

yeah I've been told that

but why warbreaker and avatar are better separate?

just to understand

[full quiver]

Normally you'd put badge and avatar

[sharp meteor]

Avatar is often used as a root break

Not unlike how BS can be used to dodge CC

[thick reef]

you can use avatar + warbreaker tho for big dam if theres no roots right or with bladestorm

[sharp meteor]

yeah sure

Move away from enemy warrior/rogue as you're using warbreaker then bladestorm as you're coming back into melee range to usually eat disarm

[thick reef]

ok thanks

[dark sparrow]

What happend to karg? He ditched after the great purge or got the calibri treatment ?

[scarlet barn]

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

👀

[warped warren]

@fickle forge 🐱

[fierce elm]

[full quiver]

lol

[ancient sonnet]

As Kyrian, when do you choose between Pelagos and Forgelite

[lucid walrus]

rarely ever a choice

most often between mik and kleia. kleia's a 3s pick for stuff like facing cleaves or jungle but mik's played more frequently

[ancient sonnet]

do you take Kleia vs Ass rogues/ferals?

[robust carbon]

DK death advance

[thick reef]

whats better, 259 Jaithys or 259 Duelist wep?

[robust hearth]

since 9.1.5 is in 2 weeks.. and ylysian might being nerfed.. we still going kyrian or sumthing else?

[elder wigeon]

kyrian will still be good for doing kyrian things

but yes it does make other things better relatively

[elder wigeon]

jaithys

[proven maple]

Necro will probably full take over

[elder wigeon]

I hope there's some targeted nerfs at necro too

in pvp the mastery should be 200 not 400

and the strength conduit should be nerfed by 50% in pvp

[wheat jay]

Nerfing conduit would probably be enough

[sharp meteor]

lol no 40k executes are funny

[wheat jay]

Funny but not healthy for the game...

[sharp meteor]

what does health look like again exactly

would you say necro ww

[elder wigeon]

60K if playing with a priest

57K otherwise

[full quiver]

Then everyone plays kyrian lol

[elder wigeon]

kyrian is aight

I'll be playing a lot of condemn in 915

[nocturne radish]

yeh it depends tbh i might swap kyrian right now but not sure still for ww/warr nerco seems fun too

[wheat jay]

Daily #CalibriDidntBanHimself

[trim fiber]

If I farm honor gear right now will it be upgraded to new ilvl, or should i just save all my honor right now and buy it once 9.1.5 comes out

[elder wigeon]

it won't be cheaper to upgrade conquest gear

[full quiver]

Just wait for comp stomp

[sharp meteor]

So what 9.1.5 does is space out upgrades. Twice as frequent, but half as much. Only honor gear is cheaper to upgrade, and not by much.

[full quiver]

Yeah it's great

Will make 2100 pushes a lot easier for a lot of people

[somber comet]

Pour one out for the homie.

[trim fiber]

I was more talking about the ilvl change from 177 -> 190 which is current, to 177 -> 213 default

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I think current stuff gets upgraded.

Exception being elite but that's just pve ilev

[warped warren]

#freecalibri

[proven maple]

#freecalibri

[somber comet]

#freecalibri

[spice burrow]

#freetimcurry

[wheat jay]

#freecalibri

[hollow kelp]

i was told i would have at least 1 second to react

[simple rock]

you have to react to the cds/procs not the dmg

pre cds when they proc into bonedust brew

but yeah monks are fucked

[marble marten]

Were you in dstance? did you react to the proc?

[marble marten]

warrior has every answer to monk, just need to press it 🙂

Also you are playing kyrian, where is your autostun

[wheat jay]

let me answer your 160k burst

[simple rock]

I didn't mean that from a warr perspective, but more like game as a whole

[warped warren]

just oreoarry the stun all in

🐱

[simple rock]

warrs are fucked too

[warped warren]

no u

[simple rock]

[warped warren]

just kite wb loool

[graceful quarry]

just pre /afk the game

its that easy

[warped warren]

if you tank a warrior on his cds

its on you

[simple rock]

don't login

ggs

[warped warren]

if our boy cali wasnt bananand he couldve coached you to killing monks like the good guy he is

[marble marten]

same can be said for monk lol

both classes stun into do smth

[warped warren]

ya

didnt say anything else

[dry trail]

what's the duelist season 2 enchant called?

[full quiver]

If we use duel on Kevin, will monk do 50% less to us

Or can you not duel non players

[scarlet barn]

You can duel non players afaik

But wont affect the player then

Afaik

Fact check me cause i am not 100% sure

[warped warren]

what

lmao

[warped warren]

are you on KREK?

drxW

[full quiver]

I meant 50% to me lol

[warped warren]

doesnt work like that lmao

[full quiver]

I'm retarded haha

[thick reef]

i read it wrong before too in the past and it took vs a ret LOL in 2s and he went me so it was worthless

[scarlet barn]

@warped warren so

I was right

[sharp meteor]

yeah duel negated by people swapping to you

[warped warren]

?

what are you on about

[pale minnow]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [redacted] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

Calibri lives matter!!!

[scarlet barn]

Nvm

[warped warren]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [redacted] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[pale minnow]

Duel is nice vs frost dk's

[full quiver]

i usually banner + disarm

[pale minnow]

I wonder if you intervene your ally and duel is on the dk will it count for u too the intervene?

[full quiver]

duel probably better as you get higher since people will kill banner faster

[pale minnow]

Imma try duel more often because seems to aline well with enemy burst cd's

[pale minnow]

That's what i do always, but could be better if disarm warbreaker from warrior and duel dk pillar or do it opossite way, less dmg on us

Start to feel that sharpen blade gets useless with all these hybrid healing cunts

[full quiver]

the more healing there is the better sharpen is i think

[pale minnow]

And the game never goes on low damp

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

damp?

just kill enemy

duh

[hollow kelp]

Good question, as you can see in the log he killed me through it

And the auto stun

Ur right i should totally have done things to live in 0.7 seconds mb monks are fine

[ember rose]

If i have low haste as NF, do i just play eb instead of battlelord?

[warped warren]

🐱

[hushed plank]

With the new patch coming the 2nd does that mean the new season of pvp starts as well?

[warped warren]

no

[hushed plank]

Fun.. thanks

[warped warren]

any time

[wicked magnet]

why? rbgs and the buffed conduit?

[elder wigeon]

more fun, can switch whenever I want, cuts druids in half

[vital talon]

@cali

Interesting

I'll have to do some further research

He definitely mean mugged people constantly

Up to you if that makes you feel bad

[elder wigeon]

but more than likely I'll just be playing necrolord in arena a lot more

[vital talon]

I tried to like nectolord

[elder wigeon]

kyrian spear is nearing uselessness with how much abuse is going on

[vital talon]

My greatest ability was buffing other players and shielding myself

I can't handle it

[sharp meteor]

wym necro hits like a train flying off the rails during banner

[wicked magnet]

i think kyrians soulbinds are awesome though, its not just about the spear

[elder wigeon]

kyrian phial is very useful into jungle and RPS for sure

but you don't need the kyrian soulbinds if you're necrolord

[wicked magnet]

necro is pretty tempting

[wheat jay]

accepting you're bad is the first step to improvement

worked for me

[vital talon]

My point is it's a wack ass personal buff

Wack as in boring

No cool move just set it and forget it

Yeah sure yiu can say someone's bad without getting into pissing contests with them

I've been that guy who has to win every time

It probably just pissed a mod off on the wrong day

It was surprising to me he got banned because I literally went a month pinging someone daily in here

Straight up harassment and I wasn't banned for it

I'd be interested to see if admitting to that means an auto ban for me now

[elfin valve]

@mods ^

[vital talon]

@ocean storm what's your take on this

[ocean storm]

Dude you're pinging the wrong person lol

[vital talon]

My bad

[ocean storm]

I don't really care, its okay bud

[vital talon]

Who do I ping

[wheat jay]

Mwahi said it wasn't him either, so not him

[vital talon]

Is it confirmed he was banned ?

Or did he just leave

[wheat jay]

he did not leave

[quasi lotus]

is this

[wheat jay]

at least that's what he claims O_O

[quasi lotus]

#freecalibri time??

[wheat jay]

#freecalibri

[vital talon]

Shut the hell up bigbev

[scarlet barn]

Wottle needs warm cocoa

[vital talon]

I know that's bev speaking I don't even gotta look

If I hear one more word out of bev I'm going to lose it

[quasi lotus]

wottle

[vital talon]

I'm going to arbys to meditate on this

[quasi lotus]

most likely place to find Rov

good shout

[scarlet barn]

lel

[wheat jay]

let me know when you find out who nuked calibri

[scarlet barn]

rov left prob

[wheat jay]

i have yet to know 😦

[scarlet barn]

again

[hasty fractal]

General question for warriors: Assuming same gear and skill level in a 1v1, what classes/specs would you expect to win, expect to lose, or 50/50?

[elder wigeon]

all of them you lose

arms is terrible at dueling, you have to 1 shot them or you lose, basically

[scarlet barn]

Wouldnt say all

majority

if you are necro you at least stand chance against some atm

[mystic barn]

just second wind in necro shield lol

[full quiver]

lol

warr is pretty spooky as feral if they're kyrian

[elder wigeon]

nah you can abuse the spear

[full quiver]

alot easier said than done

[elder wigeon]

watched my kitty cleave partner do it to my spear like 8x in a row

if I spam hamstring him then it makes it hard

but then I'm not doing anything with my spear

[wicked magnet]

i win a lot of 1v1s, i use impending victory, indelible victory, pelagos phial of patience (unless i have 20 stacks with kleia), unhinged lego, when 9.1.5 comes out should be even better

[wheat jay]

Even with all that

Equally skilled opponent wins

Cuz other classes are just better at 1v1

[sharp meteor]

In a completed isolated 1v1 instance maybe but usually best to avoid those unless you know you've got a massive advantage

Necro warr in particular can kind of toss people around if they don't respect the cds

[low sparrow]

should i craft crit vers on my eb or haste vers?

im necro btw

playing with ww holy priest

[elder wigeon]

up to you honestly some run full haste some are half and half and some are full crit

[sharp meteor]

Idk they both feel good yeah like crit randomly slot machines people and haste is just smooth

I went for crit on big spear and haste on enduring

[manic patio]

Does anyone know if we will be able to swap covenants before the arena starts in 9.1.5 or do you have to be at the Covenant base to swap Covenants?

Would be pretty cool to be able to swap based on your matchup

[robust carbon]

Really don’t think it will work like that

[manic patio]

Yeah, probably not. Was just curious

[somber comet]

I just saw a WoWhead article for fury getting a 43% buff to auto attack damage

This isn't the #fury channel

So Idk if I can put it here

As it needs to be PvP only

But

Clears throat

FURY IS NOW VIABLE.

110% MS IS THE DREAM, TEAM.

NECROLEAPER BiS 9.1.5 Confirmed by BELLULAR GAMING

A R1 PvPer

Source: Trust me brother

Don't miss out the switch

Swap now

Grind that renown

Drop everything for this once in a life time FURY OVERHAUL

[proven maple]

is Fury really going to be BIS? I'll cov swap tonight. Thank you for updating me on patch information.

[elder wigeon]

no he's trolling

do not change anything

[warped warren]

stop trolling, resune

[sharp meteor]

Fury is fun for bgs but I think that my healer would remove me if I tried to queue it

[somber comet]

No do not actually swap to Fury.

Even with what they ARE changing, Arms still comes out on top.

...

Sorry about that guys

Discord was HACKED

by boosters not wanting me to SHARE their secrets.

#BoosterHateHim

[ember rose]

Too late, I already did

Now i dropped 200 cr

Ty

[warped warren]

Pog

[warped warren]

didnt know you could drop from 1200

lmao

[somber comet]

Video footage

Of playing 9.1.5 BiS Necroleaper Fury

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9kf0tib1kg&ab_channel=CINEMATICGAMING

Don't miss out

Feel the power

Be the God of the Arena

Be the envy

Boosters HATE me

Theorycrafters LOATHE me

Because I speak the truth

[simple rock]

pvp chat is down bad during these trying times

[somber comet]

Sadly

#freecalibri

Sadly my memes are the most activity this channel has had since the purge.

[crisp jewel]

Is the shield from the frost Dom shard worthwhile at rank 5 in arena? Even at %50 it's still decent. Wondering if keeping one PvE piece w vers is worth it for the shield every 5sec stacking

[elder wigeon]

it's 25% in pvp now

[hushed tinsel]

9.1.5 - Arms reckon we're gonna change legendaries for 2/3s??

[elder wigeon]

No, change covenant if anything, which I probably wouldn't

however, necrolord just keeps getting better and better by the second

[steep inlet]

wtf do you say dom

what is this bullcrap

[warped warren]

frappe mortelle (#freecalibri)

[quasi lotus]

#freegreil

Uh

#freecalibri

[wheat jay]

#freecalibri

[pale minnow]

#Calibrilivesmatter

[scarlet barn]

#calibrididnothingwrong

[wicked magnet]

the yellow text that appears above allies when they get CC'd, is that the default ui?

[wicked magnet]

i dont think it is but i cant figure out what addon does it, i love it whatever it is

[late prism]

What legendary would you run as Necro arms?

[thick reef]

prob enduring for dps mishapen for casters

[sharp meteor]

Enduring in general, misshapen if you're comfortable with it and know you'll get value in the matchup, unhinged for meme 2-shots or maybe into melee cleaves

[thick reef]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

Sephuz might also have potential vs high cc comps as less time in cc = more dmg, the stat proc is decent and the vers portion is increased by the trinket bonus

[mighty fractal]

im probably way behind the curve here guys, but all i see in 2's is necro warr

when did they get so popular and why

the mastery buff + no slows?

seems as though all i run into are hunters and fucking holy priests and my spear is useless

[full quiver]

Spear is way better in 2s

[mighty fractal]

i thought so too but my rsham gets deleted

[warped warren]

says who lmaooo

[full quiver]

Magnus

[dark sparrow]

Not Calibri, that’s for sure #freecalibri

[somber comet]

Listen up gamers

Here's a new tip

NECROLEAPER FURY will #freecalibri

Re-roll in mass to show solidarity with the fallen washed god.

the WotLK glad

[worn lagoon]

is disarm good against DH?

[late prism]

y e s

[elder wigeon]

it's alright yeah

[full quiver]

Duel/warbringer, sharpen, death sentence, are more annoying as a DH imo

[worn lagoon]

Warbringer I take it sometimes against mage too

or hunter

😄

but yeah I think I will take that against DH next time too

[warped warren]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [only Gladiators can see this message] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

#freecalibri

zug zug

[median shuttle]

chat hella dead without him

rip

[marble marten]

F

[rapid shore]

what happened?

[wicked magnet]

anyone know what addon does this? i still cant figure it out

lets you know with scrolling combat text above an ally when they get slowed or CC'd

[wicked magnet]

nevermind its default ui

but i cant find the setting and no one else seems to be able to see it 🤔

[dry trail]

any good comp besides melee cleave for 3v3 ?

gimme some ideas chat

[scarlet barn]

Cant, dead chat

[wicked magnet]

i finally figured it out, its in my config.wtf i dunno how it got there though

SET fctSpellMechanics "1"
SET fctSpellMechanicsOther "1"

and that allows me to see all CC's that impact people in the distance and who did them

[snow wolf]

do pvp conduits in vendor go up with rating?

hit 2.1 but they are still 239

[wicked magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-muahahaha-evil-laugh-gif-4482837

blizzards response: you thought you could escape the korthia grind?

[snow wolf]

is that the cap tho haha

just before ib uy them

[wicked magnet]

i dont think they go higher than 239, you have to upgrade them through the korthia grind

[snow wolf]

ah k

[pale minnow]

They are banning calibri our champ, but not these nitro boosting scam bots, OUTRAGEOUS!!

[lavish ember]

Which covenant would you all recommend for a new warrior pvper?

Not new to pvp just war.

[wicked magnet]

kyrian

[sharp meteor]

I'd go with Necro. Banner is easier than spear to get value off of, and you're quite a bit more durable.

[lavish ember]

Which is viable for climbing ranks eventually?

[wicked magnet]

a new warrior?

thinking it will be easier to gear a scrub up in 2s with kyrian

[elfin surge]

🙂

[mellow knot]

im tilted to fucking shreds

no way monks are the worst healers

getting out of 5/6 spears

tping while 2 sec left on stun

being fucking broken ass class

endless mana

[sharp meteor]

They're weird. It's like you often can't really go them, and their throughput if left alone is crazy, along with mana

But if you can kind of harass them by playing near them they crumble

[sharp meteor]

They're both completely viable right now.

[lavish ember]

I also see youtuber runs venthyr. Anyone know what thats about?

[proper elk]

u press condmen

[sharp meteor]

Which lol I've seen exactly one Venth warr in recent weeks

It doesn't seem bad, it's just that Kyrian or Necro look to be better

[scarlet barn]

They are

You having problems with them means you are not playing correctly

[scarlet barn]

This jsut means you have veey subjective opinion.

[ember rose]

Frankly thats just an skill issue

[elfin surge]

necro is meta

[vestal ibex]

I'm still using Venthyr but only because I cba to do renown again

Might switch in 9.15 once they remove the associated grind with switching

I also hear Kyrian and Necro are being nerfed in 9.15

Not sure if that will impact the choice

[sharp meteor]

Big spear bonus crit is going from 25% to 15%, and Fleshcraft is getting bonked, yeah.

[vestal ibex]

I think it's undeniable that Venthyr is the easiest Covenant to play - because it's basically buffing execute and giving you a mobility spell

But atm, I like Necro most

Will have to re-evaluate once 9.15 kicks in

[wheat jay]

Those are barely nerfs lmao

[graceful quarry]

have you tried winning instead

[wheat jay]

Let me answer that question for you

They are the worst healers right now

[wicked magnet]

pretty sure as kyrian i can encounter a venthyr warrior in the wild, miss spear completely and still have no chance of losing, its not that i think condemn itself is bad its just that i think those soulbinds are terrible

pretty sure same if i was necro, dont think i would need banner

[somber comet]

Korthia doesn’t give above 226 iirc

Adamantium halls

Or whatever

Gives the upgrade for up to 252

Torghast

[wicked magnet]

i didnt even know those torghast halls did conduit upgrades

ive never actually been in one

[somber comet]

Oh shit

And I didn’t know those were in there

My bad

[wicked magnet]

i do torghast with my wife we always get the 4 points

never the 5

[somber comet]

It has a chance to give the death-bound shard.

[wary harbor]

if you do 5 one time per week you get one of those guaranteed.

in a layer 12 i have to add

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I'll do one wing a week for the 252 conduit.

It seems to have a 100% chance on layer 12

[wicked magnet]

is there a trick to it? u just do it solo?

[sharp meteor]

Idk. Make everything dead at a reasonable pace.

[wicked magnet]

i get 100% completion but it doesnt reward the 5th point

[wary harbor]

different things give score, beating a certain timer, killing everything, clearing the vases, selecting not epic power etc

[sharp meteor]

Sometimes you get a super scuffed run with bad powers and affixes, in which case I'll usually just pop into the other wing.

[wicked magnet]

selecting not epic power?

[wary harbor]

if you dont select any epic anima power you get points

[sharp meteor]

You get 10 points for not taking epic powers.

[wicked magnet]

oh interesting

[sharp meteor]

But you can also clear super fast with certain epic powers, like the fleshcraft explosion.

It sucks but look at wowhead or whatever for the challenge bonuses

kill 2 elites in 10 seconds for instance

[somber comet]

Careful this isn’t #pvp talk

Last time we had non pvp talk we got nuked

So we might have to go to #general

[sharp meteor]

Didn't that one guy get nuked for saying anybody who doesn't have at least 2 glads is bad

or did he get nuked at all

[wicked magnet]

i dont like arena enough to get glad a 2nd time xD

i dont like arena enough to get glad a 2nd time xD

[sharp meteor]

It does kind of suck for alts and participation to not have an incentive to play after getting your dargon

It's a big rift between glad and r1 especially in long seasons

[wheat jay]

Its true tho lol

Get it once, could be luck

Twice, unlikely it was luck

[sharp meteor]

Yeah I wasn't disagreeing but he did kind of go in on that guy

[wheat jay]

Yep

[sharp meteor]

Not saying it was deserved that he got whacked, just that I'm guessing that's what it was

[wheat jay]

Accepting you're bad is the first step to improvement, some people just dont know how bad they are

Ye it was probably that

[sharp meteor]

Is tru

[somber comet]

Yeah. You have to know what you're doing wrong to get better.

Sometimes it is RNG and some times it is luck

But most of the time it is because you don't know what you're doing.

Being coddled is easier because it doesn't hurt to admit you suck

But you gotta know your lowest point to improve.

After saying that, I'm probably gonna get murked here soon.

[somber comet]

#freecalibri

[dense echo]

I know this isnt probably the right place to ask but does anyone know if you get the tabard of brute force as an item after completing the achievement and if not is it obtainable somehow

[pale minnow]

Idk buddy

BUT

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [redacted] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[sharp meteor]

I have the tabard, but only on a super old char. Maybe the achievement doesn't award the "physical" tabard any more.

Not seeing an option to repurchase it from the vendors on alts or anything, either.

[pale minnow]

Any tips how i can play arena without going horde? 👍

I wanna get glad before the nerfs but noone to play with lol

[lucid walrus]

going horde

[sharp meteor]

have friends on alliance

bully horde friends to faction

suffer in lfg or look around on the forums

[lucid walrus]

couple friends of mine dipped horde & it kinda just started a chain reaction. all red now

[pale minnow]

Sheeps falling into domino effect

Just like those streamers who left wow for ff14 and made the domino effect on the sheeps

[lucid walrus]

a roleplayer's idea of faction loyalty is the same as quitting a game, ya

[pale minnow]

I started as horde with my irlfriends, yet i was unhappy and unsatisfied about the game, swapped faction and i started enjoying the game, my friends who stood on horde side they quitted them game, i still stay on Alliance and i still enjoy the game

[lucid walrus]

if it works, it works. only tangible advice otherwise is btagging people who don't suck

[pale minnow]

That's a good advice for example

[warped warren]

theres nothing on ally tho

[somber comet]

The faction imbalance is real.

Though I don't know if I can talk about it here since #pvp needs to remain PvP

God forbid

But

I feel like that's the "big change" in 10.0

You can que up with players regardless of faction

But you still need to pick.

Granted I'm a Horde main

Have and always will be

[pale minnow]

Bro... haven't u seen the hot night elf and draenai bitches?

[pale minnow]

Look at this dude too, he mains horde, yet he comes to the superior faction for attention

[somber comet]

Tf?

Brother I've always been Horde

Never pushed content on alliance

Imagine playing on a fucking dead faction

Hardstuck at 1600

Cause your ass can't push

You ever heard the tragedy of Calibri, the WotLK glad?

[twilit ridge]

I wanna go Horde tbh, my main is on alliance and most of the people I play with are ally. However on my horde toons it has felt less toxic when interacting with people

[pale minnow]

That is me?

[somber comet]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Calibri the WotLK glad? I thought not. It’s not a story Skyhold would tell you. It’s a [only Gladiators can see this message] legend. Calibri was a gladiator of Wrath of the Lich King, so powerful and so wise he could use his knowledge to influence Skyhold to create competent arena players… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from down ranking. The dark side of the arena is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught Skyhold everything he knew, then they banned him in literally plain sight. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."

[twilit ridge]

LFG feels like cancer on ally

just feels horrible

[somber comet]

Alliance is dead.

For content*

[twilit ridge]

It is

and imo alliance killed itself

[somber comet]

Ironically they were the most popular in WoD

The Legion change to the racial I think did it in for PvP

[twilit ridge]

the mentality on alliance is much different which is crazy to think since its the same people playing on both factions

on ally I've noticed people are a lot more entitled and dramatic, I've received more paragraph hatemail on alliance compared to horde where its just "XD dumbass kys"

[somber comet]

Idk why they type kys

[twilit ridge]

and it's like you wonder why the factions dead when everyones just so annoying

[somber comet]

It just means "kiss"

Duh

Read it

4head

Ofc kys me

💋

[twilit ridge]

lmao

[pale minnow]

Subjective opinion, that's your bad experience

[twilit ridge]

even to do pve, I noticed a lot of people with LESS xp/io/etc than me have A LOT to say

[somber comet]

Whoa you can't say bad

That'll get you banned

[pale minnow]

Ah shit

[somber comet]

"Negative" experience.

No one is ever bad.

Remember that.

[pale minnow]

There always must be a sith to maintain balance in the force

[somber comet]

#freecalibri

[twilit ridge]

yeah idc what some hardstuck nerd has to say lol

but anyway I think being a maghar orc would be dope to play as if the racials weren't such ass

I will always love human but maghar looks clean

[somber comet]

Orc in general look good.

But you'd wanna be green

Cause 20% is a good number.

[twilit ridge]

I agree

I always have fun on my orc alt warr

taking trinket feels good

[pale minnow]

Damn boy! gotcha insecure that you had to go on this toxic path? You cared enough tho to note this useless information to deffend your subjective opinion

[twilit ridge]

lol

I dont really care to be toxic or argue

on the skyhold discord

[pale minnow]

👍

[twilit ridge]

[pale minnow]

🤡

[lucid walrus]

3.2 second stormbolt teehee

[twilit ridge]

sephuz looks pretty fun to try on orc too

ngl tho I do also love relent

[lucid walrus]

its secondaries are kinda underwhelming by now. i thought the same last patch tbh

[twilit ridge]

I miss every man for himself but it was pretty OP

[twilit ridge]

oh damn are they?

[lucid walrus]

actually no it's +80 to everything isn't it

that's not awful but i reckon there's more throughput from other stuff. unfortunately 10% cc reduc doesn't enable you to do stuff like reflect DB sheeps the way that relent would though

cool as fuck that it stacks w/ hardiness tho

[twilit ridge]

Honestly reflecting those polies in the opens

has just changed my gameplay so much

I just like keeping mages out the game

[lucid walrus]

picking up what to do on a micro level feels really good

your boy's sapped? bladestorm quick. catch a kidney if you're lucky

[twilit ridge]

^

I've been doing that baj spear trick with disarm against a lot of warrs

just doing all those little things are satisfying

[lucid walrus]

spear trick?

you mean staggering it w/ other burst to eat disarm or?

[twilit ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO0B9tTbsUc

I think its in this vid

[lucid walrus]

oh sick. don't watch bro that often nowadays

[twilit ridge]

I dont watch much myself, just see things here and there

[pale minnow]

So what was here that impressive?

[pale minnow]

Explain to me

[sharp meteor]

Basically move out of disarm range do your stuff then bladestorm back in to hopefully eat the disarm

also rat league strat but don't play warbreaker and some warriors won't notice as their weakaura is for warbreaker not smash lmao

[lucid walrus]

also just prevents you from whiffing it like a monkey if target gets gripped or uses mobility

shouldn't happen often enough to warrant the pick or make it worthwhile though

[sharp meteor]

Just had a mage shimmer out of my spear then a monk port out

this is what I get for not going Necro

[twilit ridge]

bladestorming disarms

[quasi lotus]

Everyone with a movement ability and some timing can get out

Unless fixed these days idk 🤷‍♂️

[sharp meteor]

Not fixed. Very annoying.

[manic patio]

Hey, I'm a Kyrian warrior at 1981 CR in 2s with a holy pally and by far, the biggest matchup we lose against is resto druid healers.
Does anyone have any tips and talent changes etc they use when vs druids?

Ty

[elder wigeon]

you're gonna lose on mana, so you have to play to kill the rdruid before you run into mana problems, swap on cen ward and save your spear/stormbolt for the druid with swaps

[lavish ember]

Bit confused on stats for Kyrian arms. Is it vers/haste or vers/crit?

[elder wigeon]

up to you

some like crit some like haste, though most prefer crit

[warped warren]

????

[dry trail]

best warrior + caster comps ?

[ember rose]

War sp

[dry trail]

and ur thoughts about monk healer ?

[ember rose]

Dont like em

[dry trail]

ye same

[ember rose]

Rather play with druid or sham

[wheat jay]

warrior + mage in 3s is decent too

not sure how it is in current meta tho

[nocturne radish]

ITS OK i think its like a setup comp u know where u prob cc healer into bust and warr cds

and i think warr does more of pressure during bust downtime and protects mage then it turns into a cc go once bust is up

[elfin surge]

[rain nova]

for kyrian do you go for triple potency or go with the finesse conduit first

[wicked magnet]

what? which soulbind guy you using?

[sharp meteor]

Presumably Mika? I usually just play the stun.

[dry trail]

what about thunder cleave ? so many elementals que up

[thick reef]

Hey 9.1.5 kyrian lego is nerfed a bit will venthyr be the go ?

[rain nova]

pelagos

[wicked magnet]

for pelagos i use phial of patience but i only go pelagos in the rare situations where i dont have any heals with me and i dont have time to build up stacks of valiant with kleia

most use mikanikos or kleia

[wicked magnet]

no

i kind of want to try that harrowing punishment in eots one day after 9.1.5 comes out

won't that be like... 20% extra condemn damage? that could be fun

eots fighting in mid i mean

[thick reef]

@wicked magnet okay so what’s the go lol I’m new to war and I’m also using pelagos as my soulbind also

[wicked magnet]

well i go mikanikos if i want the auto stun, kleia otherwise

the auto stun is really sweet

[thick reef]

What’s good about Kleia and what rating are you ?

[wicked magnet]

i just casually do arena im 2100, kleias valiant strikes and hope springs eternal is really nice, also the extra crit helps

ascendant phial can be useful at times too

[sharp meteor]

I've been playing Mika almost exclusively, need to get around to trying Kleia

I dislike the "turn to face the spirit" minigame that Pelagos has

[wicked magnet]

i dont really understand why theres so many pelagos when i look at drustvar

i dont mind the mini game much

combat meditation is still nerfed in pvp right?

[sharp meteor]

It's tweaked to be longer but have reduced mastery, yeah.

[wicked magnet]

thats a lot of warriors going necrolord now xD

[sharp meteor]

It feels really good.

I was going to go Necro but spear seemed like it'd be good for holding people in my Shamans doom winds

[wicked magnet]

definitely going to give it a shot in 9.1.5

[rain nova]

so for mika what conduit route do i run?

[undone sage]

hmm, what demo lock cds / buffs. etc should we be afraid of? O_O

[wicked magnet]

reactive is nerfed in pvp 3% i believe

[sharp meteor]

Decimating bolt buffs their following instant demon bolts rather bigly, so expect 12-20k+ instants for 3 globals in a row if they get one off. The buff can be purged.

[undone sage]

oh damn

i see

[sharp meteor]

You'll usually get coiled into an axe toss during this

[full quiver]

But

[undone sage]

yep as much control as they can

[full quiver]

You can predict when they'll use decimating

So you just dip out and let pets die off lol

[sharp meteor]

Tyrant is also spoopy but otherwise idk what demo does besides pollute my screen with imp nameplates

[undone sage]

awesome

thanks dudes! :D

[thick reef]

whats the path for kleia

[sharp meteor]

Warlock
Decimating Bolt’s (Necrolord Ability) damage bonus to Demonbolt, Shadow Bolt, or Incinerate can no longer be dispelled.

sike can't dispel it next week

[undone sage]

trying to find buff name that they get

might be actually a buff called: Decimating Bolt

[thick reef]

anyone here?

plays above 2.3 mmr?

?

[sharp meteor]

perhaps

[thick reef]

i dont think they are play fair game bro

[sharp meteor]

🤔

[thick reef]

::)

almost immposible to break thru that point

might be delusional though.

[undone sage]

is it pretty much: if in 2s, and theyre like, warr / druid. etc. u know its only 1 or 2 targets. is it worth to use unhinged instead of greaves of elysian might?

[sharp meteor]

I think that Unhinged is best played as Necro or maybe NF for meme 1-shots

If you don't feel like you'll get value off spear as Kyrian then maybe Enduring or Battlelord

[elder wigeon]

what bracket?

[undone sage]

yep, hesitating alot in some games just trying to get a good scenario for solo bladestorm

seems not worth at all

[simple rock]

bladestorm is just anti cc with a little bit of dmg

you can get good value out of bs vs any class

[sharp meteor]

Yeah the thing I dislike about unhinged is that it ties your CC immunity to damage

Also the unhinged mortal strikes do sweep, so getting it on 2 people is fine

[somber comet]

I remember a time

A time long before

When this channel would have 350+ messages

Every evening.

[warped warren]

wdym, bladestorm fucks

ticks like 5-7k with cds 🐱

[scarlet barn]

Make it great again

[somber comet]

I can't.

I'm not qualified.

I am

W E A K

[thick reef]

3's

[elder wigeon]

I'm a 2800 warrior

[thick reef]

do ppl do that?

[elder wigeon]

do what? gonna have to get me up to speed

[thick reef]

Cheat

[elder wigeon]

like using a trap bot or a kick bot?

[thick reef]

whatevern it is

i dunno

[elder wigeon]

I mean you have to be specific about the kind of cheating you're meaning

[thick reef]

i would be spicific if i can

[elder wigeon]

I haven't ran into a kick botter or a trap botter, trap bot doesn't really matter anymore and hasn't since I think WoD

[thick reef]

but in genral

[elder wigeon]

no I don't run into cheaters

[thick reef]

some people do shit as if its a script in this mmr

[elder wigeon]

I run into people bug abusing

[thick reef]

i see

[elder wigeon]

but that's 99% windwalkers

[thick reef]

Lmao

[elder wigeon]

there's tons of people now that bug their way out of the kyrian spear

[thick reef]

yeah i've seen it

[elder wigeon]

almost every class can do it

[thick reef]

monks + locks

sometimes fails

[elder wigeon]

Monks, Locks, mages, druids do it the most

[thick reef]

how on earth u got 2.8 some 180 IQ

everything is too fast

[elder wigeon]

No not 180iq just tons of practice, playing with other good players, and having good fast reactions

[thick reef]

yeah playing with good players is the one

[elder wigeon]

I know what I need to do against every cooldown

[thick reef]

tons of practice wont get u any where

[elder wigeon]

that's not true

[thick reef]

14k games last ssn and ended up 2,3

[elder wigeon]

the game isn't just play with good players and that's all you can do, good players don't just fall out of the sky, they practice

[thick reef]

no i mean

good players teaching u

[elder wigeon]

I had to bust ass last season, I was 2100 at best starting into shadowlands, I busted ass on my own, played with lfg healers with my multi-glad ret friend, got 2300, got high enough to play with a multi-glad disc friend of ours, he wanted to help get my first glad and we just climbed all the way to 2700 before getting my glad, later in the season we got 2842

played against cdew's team a ton

[thick reef]

XD

Also i noticed 2.7+ exp players are some how "Stuck" in 2.2 - 2.3 mmr

[elder wigeon]

that's because r1 players play at 2500-2600

all on their shitty alts not wanting to que main team because the game is super dead and will get sniped by some rat ret war rdruid team

[thick reef]

loool

Makes sense

[elder wigeon]

always happens, happened last season too, but this season is far worse

[thick reef]

na man

[graceful quarry]

that sounds like user error

[thick reef]

i;ll get glad like it or not

[elder wigeon]

perfect practice makes perfect

[thick reef]

its true

[elder wigeon]

watch top warriors

[thick reef]

i do watch them

they make it look so easy yet its not

[marble marten]

this has to be the most meme comment i've ever read

[elder wigeon]

not all of it is easy I agree, but a lot of it is, and often becomes nature

[thick reef]

Like magnus sometimes boggles my mind

[thick reef]

lel

the rest seem normal gamplay

[marble marten]

tell me how is that not a meme, practice always makes perfect

[thick reef]

yeah man but spamming 14k games

not good

u better LF help or ask around

[marble marten]

it just explains that you don't have a clue how to look to improve yourself

[thick reef]

wow

[elder wigeon]

I was terrible at learning how to improve early on, now I know how to improve at what I need to

[thick reef]

am 2.3 not that bad

[elder wigeon]

I probably don't even have more than 6K arenas played ever

[graceful quarry]

14k games to 2.3 is probably

way below avg

[thick reef]

wdym

[marble marten]

in 14K games you should be way past 2.7, in a season where warrior is broken af

[thick reef]

if ur trying to say that i suck i agree i do such

[marble marten]

and you don't know how to identify your mistakes

just ask yourself why you lost

[thick reef]

i didnt lose

50% win rate

[quasi lotus]

so you lost

7000 times

[thick reef]

yep

[marble marten]

50% winrate is bad, it means you are stuck

and not improving

[thick reef]

and won 7000 times

[quasi lotus]

that's 7000 chances to identify your mistakes and improve

[elder wigeon]

you learn way more from your losses, you do learn from wins too don't throw the baby out with the bathwater

[thick reef]

My mistake was chatting here tbh 😄

[quasi lotus]

Sponks is a 3k monk and a 2.X warrior

Resune is a 2.8k warrior

both can help you more than fine lol

[thick reef]

i know all gods

[fickle forge]

Some people don't wanna be helped fellas, they just wanna vent

[thick reef]

14k? thu?

jeez with this guy

[elder wigeon]

do you record your own games

[thick reef]

yes i do

i dont watch them very rarley

i do notice some dumb shiit

ur right

XD

[thick reef]

not from u no

[elder wigeon]

watch your own games it makes a big difference

learning to be highly critical of your own performance is important

[thick reef]

I am

my opening sentence was am retarded

but listen i saw enough stuff that made me question something and decided to ask u

[elder wigeon]

most of the things I do is shit still, but I do some things incredibly well

[thick reef]

yeah everything is pre prepaird

i cant imagine the coordination their doing

[graceful quarry]

i mean

[elder wigeon]

a lot of the time you have to play loose with the script, especially against RMP, one little change in how they set up dictates a different response and not all RMP's do the exact same thing

[graceful quarry]

dont meme in with practice is useless

if u dnt wna get memed

[thick reef]

RMPs are not an issue

i know how to rotate my CDs very well RMPs never been an issue

[elder wigeon]

then what is? RMP is the biggest idiot buster comp in the game atm

[proven maple]

They can be. Good RMPs at the top 3k range farm ret war. While ret war farms jungle

[graceful quarry]

rmp? u mean ratcleave?

[thick reef]

ur mmr diff from mine

[proven maple]

RMPs at the top are an issue

[thick reef]

i dotn care if they are the top 3k CR

am 2.3

RMPs

are not an issue

[proven maple]

If you’re aiming to raise your cr. You will find them an issue eventually

[elder wigeon]

good RMP's are very hard

[proven maple]

Yep

[thick reef]

well am aiming glad its 100cr + + 50 wins

i think its managable

[proven maple]

Doesn’t seem your looking for help

Just telling us what you think

[thick reef]

because am not losing from RMPs

man are u crazy !

[spice burrow]

if i played 14k games and wasn't rank1 i would actually delete the game and never come back

[thick reef]

Then why not be R1?

[spice burrow]

and if i played 14k games and i wasn't glad i would go checked out to see if i was on the autism spectrum

[thick reef]

what trigrred this idiot?

[spice burrow]

or I would swap to #protection and go tank some dungeons

[proven maple]

You did

[thick reef]

by being respectful and well mannered?

[elder wigeon]

don't be ridiculous guys, no point in being mean

[thick reef]

i don't get it really 🙂

[elder wigeon]

if the old pvp channel was here you could go back and see some of the stupid shit I say sometimes, ironically or unironically

[thick reef]

no

the guy keeps insisting that RMP is my problem 😄

[quasi lotus]

Okay if you want to back track, before the abuse but after the 14k games played practice doesn't help meme

[thick reef]

i said RMP is not the problem

[quasi lotus]

no one insisted RMP is your problem you just can't read properly

but moving on

what IS your problem

at 2.3

[thick reef]

nothing

[quasi lotus]

then maybe people can assist

[thick reef]

am happpy

now this ssn

[elder wigeon]

that can't be true

[thick reef]

1k game and already 2.3

[quasi lotus]

you have 14k games played and are not glad

[thick reef]

thank you all

[quasi lotus]

you obviously have a problem somewhere

[elder wigeon]

you'd be higher rating if literally nothing is giving you problems

[quasi lotus]

what comps do you struggle with

[thick reef]

yes wont be solved he obviousley

any comp with an SP

rets sometimes

[quasi lotus]

there we go, productive discussion!

[thick reef]

locks

[quasi lotus]

would you look at that we're getting somewhere

[thick reef]

Jungle can be brutal man

[quasi lotus]

did you say you were playing ret/warr?

or did people just presume that

[thick reef]

no

[quasi lotus]

ah what you playing

[thick reef]

War/mage/H-pala

[elder wigeon]

hpally really struggles in this meta honestly

[graceful quarry]

hpal

more like cringe

[elder wigeon]

if any match goes to mana, you pretty much lose

really stupid how much more mana efficient Rdruids/shams and MW are than everything else

[thick reef]

agree mana is an issue however not causing us much losses and we know how to reset and stuff

[elder wigeon]

so what're the losses looking like then?

[thick reef]

but we make R druid oom mate

we keep swapping till hes oom

and land a blow

easiet healer to handle

sometimes ppl amaze me with a pre pre pre actions that kills us

its amazing

[spice burrow]

what is your character's name

[thick reef]

I wont tell you that.

how would if benfit me

[elder wigeon]

he's trying to see if you're lying about the games and trolling

[scarlet barn]

Denial

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