ah ok
#pvp
nocturne radish
when do u guys rally for ur teamates btw 40%?, i see some people do it like that.
full quiver
If my healer is sitting/unable to leave cc and I or the other dps will die without it
nocturne radish
ah ok thanks
elder wigeon
Yeah pretty much, rally can be used as a gap filler for your healer if their resources are thin in a given moment, but it's dangerous, rally is like entering debt for your healer, things are cool for a while, but you can drop 40-0 instantly when it's gone
nocturne radish
yea
elder wigeon
keep in mind, rally doesn't go through shadowy duel
nocturne radish
ok thanks
elder wigeon
it's between you and your healer on when you wanna be using it but I always use it at my own discretion
elder wigeon
👍
gloomy warren
does the executioner give bonus dmg to both mortal strikes if mortal combo procs?
gloomy warren
ah ok ty, is condemn still viable for 0-2100? new arms alt here
elder wigeon
yes condemn is viable for r1
venthyr is not as bad as portrayed to be
probably ret warrior
or WW warrior
warped warren
na
elder wigeon
you're building it up to be a big thing
the biggest differences occur at the absolute top
differences between a 3K player and a 3200 player right now are pretty significant, versus something like 2k vs 2.2k
nocturne radish
what r the setups for ww/warr again just wondring
never knew bout how to do cc and that. or is it just preasure?
elder wigeon
revolves around WW damage really, can use your cd's as a warrior to bait cooldowns for the WW 1 shots
nocturne radish
ah ok
tepid arch
would u play what kyrian soulbind would u play as war/pala in 3s?
gloomy warren
which abilities are not on the gcd?
wheat jay
Use them and see for yourself 
graceful quarry
which abilities are not on the gcd?
all the ones that are off gcd
gloomy warren
Thanks! Love my warrior community!
scarlet barn
Ignore pain, avatar, Charge has its own, Sweeping is on half gcd
gloomy warren
Not douchey like those other discords.
gloomy warren
tyvm @scarlet barn
scarlet barn
But you should really try those
and find out
for yourself
Charge has its own gcd
Intervene is off
gloomy warren
yeah i knew about half of em, not all though, i didnt play from wrath opening till like 5 months ago
was a beta-wrath player, and never touched warrior before, im half decent at the other melees (high rival only) but wasnt sure, for some reaosn i thought warbreaker was off gcd
i coudl def have checked, was just bored waiting on 20 min queues and thought id ask, ty and sorry to be a bother
scarlet barn
Avatar is off gcd, not warbrekaer
elder wigeon
would u play what kyrian soulbind would u play as war/pala in 3s?
Mikanikos or Kleia depending on what you're playing into
Avatar is off GCD, Charge, intervene, Defensive/Battle stance, spell reflect and pummel
tepid arch
Would u say mikanikos against cc setup comps? Like jungle and rmp and kleia against cleaves etc?
elder wigeon
Kleia vs feral and assassination comps because ascendant phial and hope springs, mikanikos into everything else
wicked magnet
yes condemn is viable for r1
It's pretty bad
pale minnow
Yo guys
I just checked blizo's armory
He has an enchant on chestpiece called "eternal skirmish"
Wtf is that?
full quiver
Stop
scarlet barn
Tailoring 👀
graceful quarry
honestly i still dont know why u can bandage but not eat hp food
unreal osprey
any NF warriors here that do Arena?
Do we still use Enduring Blow as a legendary?
in 3s
unreal osprey
Does anyone know if Fury can work in arena?
carmine flicker
can anyone share kleia tree how to setup for arena?
scarlet barn
Does anyone know if Fury can work in arena?
It can but very suboptimal
Being fury already is very suboptimal to begin with
@carmine flicker
carmine flicker
thank you, but shouldnt the path contain ascendant phial and hope springs?
unreal osprey
anyone know what the conduits are for NF as pvp fury?
scarlet barn
thank you, but shouldnt the path contain ascendant phial and hope springs?
Ascendant phial isnt that big to lose potency. Hope springs yes. But why ask when you know that already 
carmine flicker
I wasnt really sure , hesitating what to choose
warped warren
mhm mhm
onyx cedar
yo how much time do i have, to get to 1.8k? do we know around what date 9.1.5 is out?
elfin surge
yo how much time do i have, to get to 1.8k? do we know around what date 9.1.5 is...
9.1.5 wont end the season
warped warren
yo how much time do i have, to get to 1.8k? do we know around what date 9.1.5 is...
you have like 4 months left of the season
+-
warped warren
jaunty furnace
longest patch cycles ever
warped warren
that doesnt seem right
given s1 was 29 weeks and we're 14 weeks in
wait
yea
maybe
wicked magnet
👍
frigid loom
You can start by removing that pve weakaura you have set up there, managing your rage is something that becomes second nature after a while and your focus should be on whats happening rather than maximising every global for dmg. Keep it simple and focus on improving awareness, then its easymode to 1800+ 🙂
full quiver
i don't think i've ever looked at my rage bar in my life
scarlet barn
You can start by removing that pve weakaura you have set up there, managing your...
That WA is not necessarily PVE only just saying
Having visual representation of cds and resources can be usefull
warped warren
You can start by removing that pve weakaura you have set up there, managing your...
who asked tho?
dealing damage is like 90% of being a warrior lmao
wheat jay
Oof
graceful quarry
what in the fuck is that
wicked magnet
🤣
graceful quarry
I just redid my ui today
wicked magnet
just a bunch of tmw notifications i have setup for different things
warped warren
nocturne radish
KEKW
i use the shitty classic ui one and get made fun of for it lol, Some people say 'use what you want' and some people say 'get a new weakaura you tard' lol. maybe its not shitty im calling it shitty cuz most ppl call mine that haha
graceful quarry
classic ui is goated
nocturne radish
yea lol finally someone gets it!
nocturne radish
for sure
wicked magnet
how come more people dont just play arena for the conquest gear? like it doesn't matter how bad you are, how undergeared, you lose enough games you'll eventually run across people worse or people losing on purpose
graceful quarry
bc its not fun to get ur teeth kicked in 50 games in a row
nocturne radish
yea
wicked magnet
maybe its just cause i dislike mythics so much, i dunno, id rather get my teeth kicked in
nocturne radish
my guildes do that and they have fun but looking at there record just makes me feel bad because of how many games they have to endure getting 1 shot or facing glads at 1400 cr
ah thats fair
proper nymph
my guildes do that and they have fun but looking at there record just makes me f...
You don't face glads at 1400cr lol
nocturne radish
You don't face glads at 1400cr lol
Ok i went too far haha maybe not glads but rly geared people carrying
graceful quarry
rbg enjoyers
nocturne radish
FR
graceful quarry
player skills matters more the more equal ur gear is
doesnt matter if ur a knuckle dragger if u have 60ilvls on someone
summer stone
Whats the addon for dark default UI?
Pretty sure it's just called SUI
primal perch
just realized i was playing with chains instead of primary stat trinket
now i can oneshot hehehe
leaden pasture
any one know if kyrian arms warrior stats i think its crit vers does that apply to venthry condemn warriors as well
cuz the way i got geared just picked what ever but i didnt realize i was suppose to go for a specific stat
wheat jay
dense echo
Any suggestions what’s 2nd best leggo for arms pvp after kyr pants
scarlet barn
dense echo
Ty
warped warren
could be
leaden pasture
my pvp talents are the condem charge to some one and sharpen blade i swap out big buff heal pvp talent disarm and banner according to the enemy teams but what im looking for in a 2v2 situation do you go healer or the dps as venthyr arms warrior
i feel like if you dont make the right choice u have a higgher chance to lose
wish some one could coach me for like 30 minutes with tons of questions i have in like offtopic voice server lol but naw ifts k if no one wants to
scarlet barn
crimson comet
You might be making poor choices when facing them
could you expand on this a little? i just get pew pewd down faster than i can pew them
if i pop my cds and try to zug zug face they do dh things then come kill me
crimson comet
2v2 with a paladin healing
full quiver
Yeah thats pretty tough, pally is like free win on DH lol
crimson comet
ah, why?
full quiver
After pony there's no way to get away
wicked magnet
my pvp talents are the condem charge to some one and sharpen blade i swap out bi...
i generally go healer unless dps is non-cleave or dps wants to stay on me and i cant reach heals for cleave
graceful quarry
there are no specific cleave dps
wicked magnet
i dont run into many rogue/heals i think id sit rogue
proper nymph
demon hunters counter us?
Wars don't lose to anything in 2s
wheat jay
Warr smacks everything on this planet my man
crimson comet
💪 💪 💪
elfin valve
f monks
thick reef
yoooooo i just qued ww/warr/preist and it went well loll we just swapping targets and SB/sweeping the kill targets. If the monk lands a double sweep should i Storm bolt healer?, then btw just curious.
elder wigeon
don't waste stun DR's or opportunities to cover people you conditionally can't, so yes if your WW can get a double sweep, you should bolt the third ideally, or if necessary, restun kill target
leaden pasture
ok thanks rezo
marble marten
robust carbon
Anyone got a Kleia soulbind path?
scarlet barn
robust carbon
Couldn't find an answer to what i asked on pins
robust hearth
is kyrian still the go to for arms or we going back to venthyr!?
ember rose
warped warren
royal star
Hey is Elysian Might Bis for Kyrian Arms? Or do you go with Enduring Blow or Battlelord?
scarlet barn
sharp meteor
In general you want to play Elysian whenever you can, but if you aren't able to get sufficient value off spear goes then consider Enduring imo.
thick reef
don't waste stun DR's or opportunities to cover people you conditionally can't, ...
Hey tysm dude, quick question when you say restun kill target do you mean if they trinket our double sweep then i stormbolt them? or something else
sharp meteor
Yeah if you're got enough momentum that can be the play to get the kill
thick reef
ah ok thanks, so even if its dr stormbolt its still a good choice right
sharp meteor
It's just one of those things that depends.
thick reef
Ah thats fair thanks haha
the comp is rly fun tbh we went up near 100 rating each, and yea if we had a cd or 2 and monks sweep on cd id just SB our kill target and we would go big sometimes we would swap too depednin on if our cleave was doing big dam to another target
pastel totem
For a new pvp god who doesnt know any classes or abilities outside windfury totem. Whats a good addon/WA to alert of enemy CD uses?
jaunty furnace
When is 9.1.5 coming out?
proper nymph
For a new pvp god who doesnt know any classes or abilities outside windfury tote...
There's a public arena WA that will make pvp very scripted for you
elder wigeon
For a new pvp god who doesnt know any classes or abilities outside windfury tote...
mes weakaura pack, it's on wago
pastel totem
ty ty
somber comet
When is 9.1.5 coming out?
Might be better to ask #general
They have the answers.
This is a PvP discussion channel and the topics need to stay relevant to PvP.
Speaking of PvP, what are the best ways my fellow warriors have thought to handle fleshcrafting on the enemy?
Asking out of curiosity not because I'm suffering or PvPing this patch.
elder wigeon
wdym fleshcrafting on the enemy? like how to stop them from fleshcrafting or good times for you to use it as a warrior?
glacial trail
There's a public arena WA that will make pvp very scripted for you
Where is that found?
somber comet
wdym fleshcrafting on the enemy? like how to stop them from fleshcrafting or goo...
Meant more on how best to break it. Facing Resto druids can hurt.
Mostly out of morbid curiosity.
I don't PvP anymore on my warrior for 9.1.
But I am curious how you handle it.
elder wigeon
shattering throw with any CD's like avatar and warbreaker is the best way to break a fleshcraft
otherwise, there is no best way
sharp meteor
Just...do damage? Ideally don't dump CDs into a giant flesh. There's also shattering which gains bonus damage against absorbs if you don't need it to punch through a bop, block or whatever.
somber comet
Just...do damage? Ideally don't dump CDs into a giant flesh. There's also shatte...
Oh I know all of this.
I was just curious.
Stirring up conversation since this channel seems pretty quiet in recent days.
sharp meteor
Just one of those things that might kind of delay a go. They're nerfing the super big ones that some people can start the game with in 9.1.5, I think.
elder wigeon
yeah sorta, any buffs that increase the potency of fleshcraft have to be present when the gates open, druids will still have massive fleshcrafts
the nerf isn't very big honestly
versatility affects fleshcraft so that's why we have ~60% max health fleshcraft shields
after the nerfs it's ~45%
somber comet
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
warped warren
just do damage lmao
wheat jay
I responded as well
somber comet
I meant in response to our sadge
I always notice you Artji.
❤️
Wait, uh
I’ll always heroic leap to your aid with intervene
(Have to keep this pvp focused.)
wheat jay
Bro i'd roar of sacrifice you any day
spice burrow
Stirring up conversation since this channel seems pretty quiet in recent days.
Mods purged the channel and chased away one of the most active pvp communities on discord
full quiver
Yeah now there's no one to shame into playing better and lifting more 🤧
nocturne radish
KEK
knotty atlas
Self improvement and accountability bad
Inappropriate topics bad. :)
elder wigeon
pvp only
paper oracle
maybe we should talk about day dreaming about selling bread in here
full quiver
SMUD ID swoops pls
proper nymph
I wish to stop pvp talk And talk about vendoring bread
knotty atlas
Go ahead. :)
paper oracle
I wish to stop pvp talk And talk about vendoring bread
how many loafs of breads do you think you could lift at one time?
wheat jay
SMUD ID swoops pls
Smid ud scooberz for mistyping pls
full quiver
fuck
proper nymph
how many loafs of breads do you think you could lift at one time?
Honestly I like to lift my loaves of bread (to sell for political gain) in a 5/3/1 scheme
I actually bench pressed 240 lbs of bread for 2 yesterday
warped warren
lamo
elder wigeon
lamo as in lambo? that you purchased with your bread?
full quiver
If I make 10g per loaf profit, how many loaves would I need to sell to go from 2100-2400 in 3s?
elfin surge
☹️
proven maple
question, I've been playing around the 2200 range, and at 36% vers, I'm currently socketed 1 run speed gem and rest vers, could I consider resockting the vers gems to crit? or is the extra vers the move?
proper nymph
If I sell 5 boosts a day for 6 loaves of bread how little self respect do I have as discord moderator @elder wigeon
elder wigeon
graceful quarry
If I sell 5 boosts a day for 6 loaves of bread how little self respect do I have...
7
wheat jay
If I sell 5 boosts a day for 6 loaves of bread how little self respect do I have...
at least 7 i must add
warped warren
If I sell 5 boosts a day for 6 loaves of bread how little self respect do I have...
.25
vital talon
@rovicus
brave halo
for 2v2, kyrian would still prefer to go spear leggy? or enduring? or unhinged?
wheat jay
Spear leggo or mirror if against Hunter, preferably
warped warren
manic patio
I'm playing Arms Holy Pally in 2s, I keep versing Druid healers who BoP the DPS. If I get BoP'd can I hit through thorns or do I still take the damage?
elder wigeon
it's nature damage, you won't be slowed by thorns though
full quiver
just ignore thorns like a true warrior
sharp meteor
Thorns is nature damage, so bop won't do anything and usually it means get off unless you're massively ahead or right about to kill them
Can bop off warbreaker/bolt/disarm during a go through which is potent
manic patio
ok ty
brave halo
Why do do some top kyrian 3v3 wars go haste + enduring build over spear crit?
elder wigeon
none of the top kyrian 3v3 warriors are going haste + enduring from what I'm aware of, smexxin is running haste with elysian though
there's a a few necrolord warriors running haste + enduring
sharp meteor
I feel like with Kyrian you're hoping to play big spear whenever possible, and enduring is kind of the "can't get value off spears" pick rather than an equal alternative
And yeah haste heavy enduring feels great especially on necro
pale minnow
Back to thorns topic, warriors need old spell reflect wich holds up for 3 sec and reflects all, so you can bladestorm and sr a thorns for double dmg back to the animal, imagine the rivers full with tears as they cry in the forums about it 
elder wigeon
nah thorns just needs a longer ICD
pale minnow
That also
The donkeys can't be killed with their miserable bear form, if i world pvp i have no chance to kill a feral he thorns all my warbreaker it's on same cd and i die from his bleeds without my 0 heals
Could use some mop second wind for duels and world pvp for the fun
sharp meteor
Thorns feels kind of oppressive in 2s where you're unable to swap onto something else because the druid is a mile away
pale minnow
Love it when they say with their rival heads "SpEaR iS sO bRoKkEn" yeah bro... not really when you go bear and thorns yourself under it and bark as well, dares to say this bunch of shit, then bleeds me up and leaves me to rot in root. Healthy duels
sage raptor
I just deaths advance out of it.
warped warren
sage raptor
pale minnow
full quiver
Warriors not really a dueling class... lol
pale minnow
Woow really? Such a discovery!! Fury in bfa was good shit tho, one of the top dueling able classes, and then this pile of shit nerf came on it with the heal nerfs and thirst of battle pvp talent of....
lucid walrus
Woow really? Such a discovery!! Fury in bfa was good shit tho, one of the top du...
good
brave halo
which classes can escape spear? hpriest/dk? (dunno if hpriest can)
DH with fly can i think
somber comet
Back in my day this question would have sixteen different answers from multiple R1s.
somber comet
which classes can escape spear? hpriest/dk? (dunno if hpriest can)
Priests can greater fade.
DKs can Death's Advance I believe.
Hunter can feign it?
I think.
brave halo
hunter can feign it? :/
hunters are main reason i want it :p
damn
there goes the killing hunters dream :
somber comet
Hunters are the golden child.
Requires 3 braincells.
Do pretty good damage.
Just time your traps.
Stupid question but you're keeping hamstring up, right?
I'd suggest recording a few clips and posting them in #810664169140518947
But it's a pretty much dead channel sadly.
brave halo
i went venthir first, figured they just have enough uptime on hunters to kill them 😄 found out, its not enough 😛 so then my hopes was kyrian! But guess can bait feint and then spear, or so
somber comet
Like I said, wish I had more advice to offer.
Feels like we're in the other class discord PvP channels now.
brave halo
Dont worry bro we will lively it up!!
At least i will with an endless stream of questions p
somber comet
Sadly most of the usual posters are gone.
Which sucks because we had some multi glads giving advice.
fluid lichen
but now at least you are in safe space!
somber comet
Safe and sound.
somber comet
None of that here. Keep it PvP please.
graceful quarry
dont have hair tho
somber comet
Also, I should preface, I haven't played WoW in months but my advice is still solid.
Just for the record @brave halo
(Kidding)
(I mostly PvE now.)
pale minnow
which classes can escape spear? hpriest/dk? (dunno if hpriest can)
Oh boy where to start...
1.hunter feign death
2.dh a, rain from above b, meta
3.lock portal
4.priest gfade
5.dk death's advance
6.pala bubble
7.mage ice block
8.saw plenty bugs, like necro war banner goes out, nightfae shape forming out and other 1-2 times bugging spear textures in air and shit
dark sparrow
Man this discord went from S++ tier to F real quick lol
tough compass
Night Elves can meld the spear also
twilit ridge
Man this discord went from S++ tier to F real quick lol
I felt this way after seeing the disc change post Legion
brave halo
Night Elves can meld the spear also
so they shadowmeld and they just walk out? 😮
warped warren
Man this discord went from S++ tier to F real quick lol
spice burrow
Man this discord went from S++ tier to F real quick lol
blame Tim Curry
steep inlet
<:yep:703420923625078804>
I don’t know what happened but all my logs and advices are deleted
Many glad warriors left
Wtf happened here
graceful quarry
the great purge happened
warped warren
yeah
warped warren
feigning wb for what reason
graceful quarry
remove warbreaker debuff bc ur on 20% hp
graceful quarry
u sure?
warped warren
yes
warped warren
i have like 500 games into hunters this season alone lmaoooo
since evefy game is a hunter game
full quiver
Same amt of total 3s games I have on my warrior 😂 😂
warped warren
Same amt of total 3s games I have on my warrior 😂 😂
yea well you prob rp instead of queue arenas loool
graceful quarry
i mean
warped warren
casual111!!!
warped warren
graceful quarry
couple thousand*
full quiver
About what I have this season plus last season lol
warped warren
then we have ppl like pika
think he has like 12k games one season
if it was bfa s4 or sl s1
full quiver
Well to be fair it's his job lol
warped warren
🤷
graceful quarry
jesus
full quiver
Wish we had a warrior that good
warped warren
sources say that mud is sniping inferior teams to boost his ego 🤔 @elfin surge confirmed?
full quiver
completely dismantled argument via forums
Yeah cause everything posted on the internet is true 🙄
crisp jewel
So I have a wierd question. I'm new to arena. I am currently on heroic KT. I have all shards and all the sets, using unholy currently w 2 dps shards all rank 5. I just hit 1600 last night and ranked up all my gear. I have all pvp gear except for chest,helm,wrist which 2 have vers on them, but more importantly, domination shards. They are ilvl 239. My question is even tho shards are nerfed %50 in pvp, should I keep them for now or replace them for pvp pieces? The ilvl would go up slightly, and I'd gain a small bit of vers but id lose the dps shards. What should I do? ( I know at 1800 I should replace them since the ilvl will be much higher but for now I'm 1600)
full quiver
Take higher level pvp gear
sharp meteor
Dunno just queue more and replace pve stuff with pvp stuff
wanton siren
Hey chads and chadettes, LF for an arms war around 2k cr prefer venthyr but w/e. Fully geared DH and hpala, msg me if interested (EU alliance)
elder wigeon
Surprised you want venthyr
untold pumice
Do rings still happen alot? Loved them years back when I actually did a bit of pvp
Rings? Rbgs**
sharp meteor
RBGs are kill since Blizz gutted the power of PvP items in PvE
wheat jay
I don’t know what happened but all my logs and advices are deleted
So pretty much my wildfire bombs are too potent and by mistake i dropped one in the chat
So it got nuked
steep inlet
blazing carbon
Does the magic shield reflect mind games ?
full quiver
spell reflect can reflect mind games
blazing carbon
Thanks
robust carbon
With elysian might is it worth going crit all the way, or do we try to get at least 8% haste
proven maple
Yea sometimes you hit a button and they just evaporate. Usually execute. But sometimes a juicy ms + mc proc
So question. With max gear what are people gem’ng. I haven’t really seen a consensus. Can we go with some pve stats with the non-run speed gems? Or is it just vers+run speed?
full quiver
4-5% haste is good
elder wigeon
I don’t think it’s really tangible with 0 and 4% haste
Honestly I’m gonna go max crit with haste pieces as mastery
raven aspen
Why do I see some clips where arms can easily break dark pact with shattering throw + deal more damage ontop of that, but mine always struggles to even do like half of dark pact?
I have 1800 gear, but I don't think that is the reason for such a massive gap in damage
sharp meteor
Is it during CDS
wheat jay
I have 1800 gear, but I don't think that is the reason for such a massive gap in...
Full duelist gear, full cds, banner, big warlock shield, demolition talent etc
sharp meteor
Did you spec Demolition
wheat jay
There's a lot of shit that changes it
sharp meteor
My toothpick hit a MW for 60k the other day which just outright killed them
raven aspen
Ah, does banner affect it?
Unless you're referring to the necro mastery banner thing
sharp meteor
Banner is mastery, mastery is more damage if they have Deep Wounds
raven aspen
True, that probably would make a huge diff lol
thick reef
for real it would cuz its like 30-40% mast u get with banner
plus the strength conduint too so like 15% of that too
sharp meteor
Not exactly sure how the damage works, though. I've had the shatter only break the shield, and other times it hits them for 10-20k+ to their health
Also had a shatter only hit a cocoon the other day for like 3k, which my partner said might've been the stoneskin brew absorb
elder wigeon
banner is not just mastery, with veteran's respite you can get up to 20% additional strength depending on conduit level
sharp meteor
Yeah, so many modifiers.
pale minnow
Mistweaver monk can escape spear too 👍 👍 ❤️🔥
sharp meteor
Anything with a blink/dash can although it's a little unreliable
pale minnow
At this point fuck kyrian
sharp meteor
Had a spear despawn on me the other day, and I think it was because I might've moved out of los on blade's edge.
Rly tragic because it would've hit at least 2 people
pale minnow
I don't wanna check up an adition of ohh did hunter use feignt? Oh did priest use fade? I need to waste my maledict to pull out feignt from huntard no fucking thanks
He won't die cuz noone is dumb above 2.1 to not react to a spear
Time to roll necro or venthyr again
full quiver
if you wait for hunter to disengage, get on them, and maledict
almost all of them feign death lol
sharp meteor
sometimes u can force feign with raw dam
pale minnow
Yeah, if you can keep up with him
somber comet
Current PvP Channel:
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spice burrow
barren crane
is there a place to find preferred slots for each legendary?
sharp meteor
I like haste and enduring on my necro warr, so I went with helm as the conquest ones are either crit or mastery, and helm has a higher amount of stats than belt.
elder wigeon
a lot of people are running legendaries in spots simply due to box rng from early in the season
sharp meteor
tldr is probably chest for mirror, helm for enduring, legs for big spear
Yeah some people still have a mix because they built around their wonky boxes
elder wigeon
in the end it's not that big of a deal, 3 item level is not a big difference
sharp meteor
ye not like s1
just go for w/e slot gives you the stats you want and even then it's not that big a deal
barren crane
will do thanks
gloomy warren
not too good at macros, been told to make one that lets me intervene to arena partner 1, 2 for threes, can anyone tell me how that works? how to make the macro, apologies, and which partner will it go to? do i have to move myself in group frames r something to make sure I know who its going to?
sharp meteor
/cast [@partnername] intervene
Alternatively there's party 1 and 2. I just give my healer lead and one always goes on him, and the other on our third
gloomy warren
yeah dont wanna change macro for every pug we pick up.
So if I'm not lead, /cast [@party 1] intervene works?
and 2? or do i have to have 3 since its threes and know whose what, sounds annoying af if so.
full quiver
**Current PvP Channel:**
https://loginportal.funnyjunk.com/movies/Tall+curlew_d9...
That is the manliness thing I've ever seen in this channel
elder wigeon
salmonella speedrun any% world record
sharp meteor
So if I'm not lead, /cast [@party 1] intervene works?
Yep. Self/player is you, party 1 and 2 are your teammates. Intervene obviously doesn't work on yourself, so no third macro unless you want a mouseover for world/bg stuff.
gloomy warren
so 1 will always be the top and 2 will always be the bottom of the three frames, excluding me ofc?
leaden pasture
was sitting at 1300 to 1400 highest while back some one told me your not suppose to stay defensive stance the whole game and this was a game changer from now on i stay battle stance and just keep putting on ignore pain and started to pump now im 1632
simple rock
once you push higher you'll start being punished for sitting in battle more often
but it depends what comp(s) you play and what you're fighting ofc
gloomy warren
uh, odd q, how do i get my hands on old pvp weapon mogs, for example i like the sinister aspirants greatsword in the appearances. I checked it out on wowhead but it shows this and im a tad confused where to buy it if possible https://www.wowhead.com/item=165195/sinister-aspirants-greatsword?bonus=4802 as it says "vendor" in game.
sage raptor
That looks like the sword you got from fighting nathanos in the pre-patch
gloomy warren
i wasnt around back then so idk but it shows in appearances and is named like a pvp weapon, i saw the old pvp armor sets in zuldazar but not the weapons, can the old pvp weapon mogs be purchased ?
brave halo
Had a spear despawn on me the other day, and I think it was because I might've m...
is this happening every game or once in a while or how does it work? i thin kso far in like 100 games vs war maybe once i bugged out of it
As supposed to go kyrian today and make lvl 6 legend, but now scared :p
Also are the magus guides still up to date as literally saw not 1 person run battle lords 😮
Magnusz' quick information
graceful quarry
was sitting at 1300 to 1400 highest while back some one told me your not suppos...
now you just need to learn when to alternate between the two
warped warren
yeah
vernal plank
Hey guys, any recommendations for Ret/War/Healer comps to watch on twitch? (war pov)
graceful quarry
Hey guys, any recommendations for Ret/War/Healer comps to watch on twitch? (war ...
mud when he streams
elfin surge
mud when he streams
lol mud stream when?
brave halo
lol mud stream when?
our point exactly... maybe shape up son and start streaming for us the plebs!
warped warren
guy went from streaming on twitch to streaming on discord lmaooo
elfin surge
LMFAO
warped warren
🤣
graceful quarry
lol mud stream when?
MuD sTrEaM wHeN
elfin surge
😐
blazing carbon
How can a warrior handle hunters & shaman, they just kite into oblivion? (Kyrian warrior)
mint tinsel
uh, odd q, how do i get my hands on old pvp weapon mogs, for example i like the ...
Bfa vendor i assume
worthy fern
That’s a bfa pvp vendor for horde only I believe the alliance version is different
Not positive though
mint tinsel
people play alliance>
unironically the corrupted aspirant vendor in Org and SW should sell them, where all the classic pvp gear vendors are
i was wrong, it is the mugambala vender for horde, so the alliance version should also sell them. but they only sell the weapon appearances for 80 honor makrs
brave halo
how gimpy is enduring blow legend with a crit build for pvp?
elfin surge
how gimpy is enduring blow legend with a crit build for pvp?
how much crit we talking
its better with haste
are you kyrian?
elfin surge
Spear lego is too good
brave halo
But wondering if enduring is better than spear for 2s with my crit
brave halo
Trying to find which level 6 legend can use for pve and 2s both 🐒
sly walrus
Elysian might
nocturne radish
i see u guys were talking bout defensive stance, Should i gen shit d stance for whole game unless im going to do my burst or if someone is low for a harder hitting execute? just curious
elfin surge
i see u guys were talking bout defensive stance, Should i gen shit d stance for ...
no
nocturne radish
ok when u think i should go d stance vs battle
elfin surge
D stance is mind games and very complex cuz if youre not being attacked you need to battle to counter pressure
but if youre under threat of being swapped say into rmp you need to D once they have a go and youre off drs
even when being trained you need to battle with cds if youre able to
but if you battle with cds and rogue mage counter go you, youre stuck in battle. See how its complex?
You learn when to battle and D with experience.
Its not scripted
elfin surge
yup
nocturne radish
mud is it rly true that your comp and most ret/warr/healers Destroy jungle comps btw
nocturne radish
KEK
thick reef
any kyrian to necro changers today? cant decide :S
nocturne radish
its p popular tbh
sharp meteor
Necro feels so good. The durability and reliability of conq banner.
nocturne radish
yeah
elfin surge
mud is it rly true that your comp and most ret/warr/healers Destroy jungle comps...
yes ret war rdruid farms jungles
nocturne radish
is sniping when you found out a jungle is queing and you que on purpose to get matched up with them btw
elfin surge
yea
sharp meteor
Yeah.
nocturne radish
ah i see thanks
sharp meteor
We're only half way through the season, though.
nocturne radish
ahhhh
full quiver
I know it's not true 😂
paper oracle
ok when u think i should go d stance vs battle
simple. sit b stance until 10% hp then swap and rage at your healer when you die
nocturne radish
simple. sit b stance until 10% hp then swap and rage at your healer when you die
KEK i love it
id also rage my warrior for not having enough RAGE to press ignore pain for the 1st time in the game so id just blame the game too for not giving me enough rage for ignore pain 😛
sharp meteor
I had a buddy trying to learn Arms and I just had him unbind Slam until he got more into the swing of managing rage.
nocturne radish
thats p smart tbh
full quiver
Lol
elfin surge
yup
elder wigeon
you need slam so bad tho especially against SP's
so many times where I'm spamming slam to kill psyfiend asap
or a healing tide
full quiver
Yeah slam goood
elder wigeon
it sucks but it's necessary to use sometimes
nocturne radish
for sure
leaden pasture
yo can any one help im venthry arms warrior for 2v2 and 3v3 does any one know wich one would do better the executioner shoulders leggo or painbringer waistguard
elder wigeon
I don't think enduring is bad at all for venthyr but if you're in a full crit build, executioner is probably going to be the best
elder wigeon
and i would make executioner on your ring for a socket and the ability to have two crit vers rings
more important I think than 3 ilvl on shoulder
leaden pasture
kk
it was easy to get to 1400 and lil bit to for 1600 1800 tho is super hard i feel like there in max gear and im only challenger gear
also it maybe that they have more knowledge of pvp arena then me
sharp meteor
if ur having trouble then do some bgs for honor to upgrade gear
annoying but at least early ranks are cheap
leaden pasture
kk
elder wigeon
pretty much yeah
warped warren
it was easy to get to 1400 and lil bit to for 1600 1800 tho is super hard i feel...
fr fr bussin bussin gaming 💯
wicked magnet
13:17:35> [Your] [Spectrophasic Reanimation Backfire] hit [You] 55,212 Arcane. (20,282 Overkill) (Critical)
you know how rare a failure is!? super rare and for it to crit!? holy shit what bad luck
sharp meteor
Ahahaha
wicked magnet
like it was in world pvp too, i was fucking around and combat ressing someone, i can just imagine the hordes confusion when i just randomly fell over dead
sage raptor
Any of yall PvP with Prot?
sage raptor
I meant warrior. I might switch from fury to prot. Pretty fun.
full quiver
Try switching to arms, that'll be a lot more fun
elder wigeon
playing with prot pallies is for scumbags
sage raptor
Try switching to arms, that'll be a lot more fun
I have. I don't like it.
I don't like the way it plays.
sage raptor
It feels weird
proper nymph
auto attack to generate rage> spender
elder wigeon
the part where you hit people for 30k's, don't like it, not my style
sage raptor
Arms is insanely good. I know that. But maybe I want to play what I think is fun more than what's best.
proper nymph
he doesn't like the part where he wins and needs to face good competition
sage raptor
Otherwise I wouldn't play outlaw lol
elder wigeon
outlaw is pretty dirty in 2v2 specifically
sage raptor
They play sub or assassin to get there.
full quiver
if you like fury, play DH then
full quiver
nah like second day of this season i played outlaw rogue/frost mage at 2k in 2s
proper nymph
and 3s its like C-B tier
full quiver
and they shit on us because we had no clue what they do lol
proper nymph
its "ok"
The point is, you should learn how to PvP first
before you play garbage specs
sharp meteor
Outlaw seems like it has a lot of potential
People just kind of default to Sub/Assa
proper nymph
Play S tier specs, to learn, and then commit self flagellation with shitty meme D-C tier specs after you're good
sage raptor
I know how to play it. I just don't like it.
sage raptor
I'm not the best at pvp but I'm not bad either
sharp meteor
I remember people thinking Hpriest was bad
Or that Destro was going to be crazy in 9.1
proper nymph
you're most definitely bad
sage raptor
How?
sage raptor
What does me getting glad have to do with me not liking Arms? Lol
proper nymph
it doesn't, im saying
sage raptor
You don't even have to be good at arms to win lol
proper nymph
lol yes you do
sharp meteor
I mean
proper nymph
against good competition
sage raptor
Utilities literally carry
proper nymph
ok
full quiver
popo what is your character name
sharp meteor
Are you properly using your utility
sharp meteor
Because I know everybody likes to pat themselves on the back for playing an oddball spec but
sage raptor
I don't understand what the issue is for not liking arms.
proper nymph
there's no issue for not liking arms
sage raptor
It doesn't effect anyone but me
proper nymph
but
sage raptor
there's no issue for not liking arms
Evidently there is
proper nymph
it's not not a good environment for learning how to pvp
since you're bad and don't know how to pvp
you should first get good, before you play garbage
unless you don't care about getting good
then why are you even here lol
sharp meteor
Eh you can make garbage work as long as you're grasping the fundamentals
Brute forcing people as Arms/Rdruid for instance might not really teach you how to play other stuff
full quiver
yeah but you won't know if you're doing something wrong
like did you die because you're on fury, or because you positioned poorly lol
proper nymph
Brute forcing people as Arms/Rdruid for instance might not really teach you how ...
yes it will, because you're going to hit a wall eventually when you play against actual good players. You can't bruteforce your way to 2600
you need to know what you're doing at some point or else people will just womp you
sharp meteor
Yeah hard to grasp what's going on when playing something like Fury
Well trickier to get a handle on things
sharp meteor
Yeah
proper nymph
you have all the tools required to win, you only need to execute
sage raptor
I'm still confused as to how not playing arms makes me bad lol
sharp meteor
I dislike the snowflake thing of people intentionally playing the meme specs as a bit of a fallback
Arms is so good and fun rn
proper nymph
I dislike the snowflake thing of people intentionally playing the meme specs as ...
people deliberately play garbage low tier specs and say its easy to win with S tier, but have never gotten glad once
sage raptor
But how am I bad?
full quiver
post your in game naem lol
proper nymph
sharp meteor
people deliberately play garbage low tier specs and say its easy to win with S t...
Yeah, it's a shame.
sage raptor
Why? I never got glad. Is that what yall want to make fun of me for?
proper nymph
Yeah, it's a shame.
If you want to just meme and dont care about getting better, that's completely fine
sharp meteor
Finishing wins on my warr then screwing around with Outmeme and Fury
proper nymph
but if you're in an online chat room that's dedicated to getting better
we're not making fun of you
you asked how you're bad
sage raptor
Maybe some people just want to talk about PvP but you're too busy eating popcorn with a spoon.
proper nymph
and i gave you the answer
you dont like to accept that reality
and now you're just floundering
sage raptor
And you don't like to accept that I don't like arms
sharp meteor
I think that's beside the point, popo
proper nymph
how many times do i need to repeat myself
sage raptor
You're making a pretty big deal out of it if you don't care.
sage raptor
And then call me bad bad because "you don't care"
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
i wish i could count that high
sage raptor
Jfc you have a catheter in your brain.
thick reef
bfa glads pipin up 😳😳😳
proper nymph
bfa glad doesn't count to the glad count
obviously
@sage raptorwhat's your toon name
full quiver
i only play skirmish
proper nymph
the SoloQ everyone asked for
sage raptor
<@!530563212093947914>what's your toon name
Why? I told you I don't have glad.
I don't give my character names out in these discords because everytime I do it, I get death threats for bullshit. And I sure as hell don't trust you.
full quiver
what
sharp meteor
death threats eh
sage raptor
Wut
full quiver
tuffman-korgath
proper nymph
dont kid yourself
full quiver
give me the death threats
fickle forge
@full quiver I'm literally gonna come to your house and give you a hug for being so low rated
quasi lotus
tuffman-korgath
your mog sucks, your race sucks and you're a career duelist
full quiver
you guys can all come over to Oregon
quasi lotus
now I don't need death threats cuz you'll do it yourself
full quiver
and suck my dick at the same time
sharp meteor
the gnome legend
full quiver
Eu players thinking that there isn't a 600 rating boost for queueing EU
sharp meteor
yeah what's with euros actually enjoying 2s
proper nymph
because they get paid in american money
sharp meteor
at one point last season there were like 80 people above 2400
full quiver
lol
sharp meteor
oh right
full quiver
your mog sucks, your race sucks and you're a career duelist
link ur check pvp bitch
proper nymph
lol, bev's 8 warriors that are hard stuck 1800-2100
quasi lotus
sharp meteor
No, this is
proper nymph
scoobz has the naming scheme of a 12 year old cod player
proper nymph
we all know you're going to amount to nothing bc of poor Oregon parenting and education system
full quiver
haha
sharp meteor
I thought zooms played dh
full quiver
oregon is a cesspool of wokeness
proper nymph
isn't that vermont
proper nymph
you are a weak hippy though
elder wigeon
nobody's fucked with me people know my toon names
enu, enutwo on thrall, and rezonation on sargeras
i even seem to be immune to rage whispers, my teammates somehow are the ones that get rage whispered, especially my healer lmao
nocturne radish
inc rage whisper to you res
quasi lotus
no point raging at the 3rd wheel getting boosted tbh
sharp meteor
i get like 500% more whispers on my chars with egirl names
why are gamers like this
nocturne radish
LOLLLLL cuz ppl r weird and beating people in arena can hurt them, my friend got a death whisper because he beat a preist and it was the preists 1800 game and they got stuck after they lost that game to him so they msged him saying 'go rope yourself you idiot'
sharp meteor
there's this one healer on like staghelm or something that i somehow queue into every season and he always whispers me shit about how his teammate threw the game
and it makes me wonder if he whispers everybody
nocturne radish
lol so hes basically putting down his teamates in order to make himself feel better about the loss
kinda odd and interesting at the same time, Odd because thats not what a team should be doing lol they should have each others back. But its interesting because usally they put your character down and say how u were the one who got carried by ur team.
sharp meteor
maybe his head just broken from being in the finder 24/7
nocturne radish
probs yeah
imagine doing that tho every game lose you had to throw your teammates under the bus every time to the other team by whispering them that they throw LOL
sharp meteor
the first he whispered me was flaming me for not training him
like he fully hotted himself, went bear and i just hit hit partner for a minute and killed him
proper nymph
there's a few r1 socially awkward streamers
that always flame when you beat them
its pretty funny
worthy fern
What fucking pussy in here banned calibri
full quiver
he was bullying me
lucid walrus
bro died with the channel
wheat jay
so, one of the only people that gave actual good advice to people asking for it got banned
OOF
wide saffron
what comp to push glad this season as arms kyrian? is it shammy ret
warped warren
<@&257983573498265600> scuse me sirs and ladies, may i ask who may have banned my boy calibri? hes real nice tbqh
full quiver
what comp to push glad this season as arms kyrian? is it shammy ret
yeah very strong, better if necro
warped warren
what comp to push glad this season as arms kyrian? is it shammy ret
just do what mud does and snipe teams
elfin surge
people actually think i snipe
full quiver
lol
warped warren
🤣
wide saffron
aight
elfin surge
are there fake muds?
elfin surge
you brought up the potential of fake muds
wheat jay
you brought up the potential of fake muds
there's more MUDs than you could ever imagine
elfin surge
i am every necrolord warrior
wide saffron
🥰
graceful quarry
<@&257983573498265600> scuse me sirs and ladies, may i ask who may have banned m...
it seems you may not ask
wide saffron
what to do as alliance gnome when trying to find group?
dont say anything mean pls
😦
elfin surge
go horde
graceful quarry
gnome is cringe
elfin surge
orc is the sexiest warrior race
graceful quarry
yes
wary harbor
dwarf is where its at
sage raptor
should i leave the gnomial masterrace for horde??? dumbest thing ive heard today
No you gotta switch to worgen
wide saffron
but my tmog wont work with orc
wide saffron
ok but you would have to be rich to have that tabard
BUT i recently started boosting
elfin surge
depends rly
wide saffron
gnome warrior?
elfin surge
usually around 10m for glad
wide saffron
is it gonna be expensive for me?
wide saffron
nice 😄 , i Love watching you play! hope you get back to streaming soon! aint nothing like a Mud stream before bed! ❤️
elfin surge
legendary
wide saffron
Im going mental this season, just wait for it
warped warren
lmao
wide saffron
current rating 2.1
warped warren
Im going mental this season, just wait for it
same
wide saffron
we about to go 6k
warped warren
but my head mental
graceful quarry
yo what do you guys think of the best arms warrior NA named @elfin surge?
warped warren
???
graceful quarry
why would he
graceful quarry
also that
warped warren
big fax
scarlet barn
warped warren
sadeg
proven maple
that guy literally gave some of the most useful pvp advice in here, would be a shame for him to be actually banned
sharp meteor
Wait why'd he get whacked
small silo
what legendary do you guys think is best for necro warrior when playing tsg ?
worldly quest
Exploiter still best for venth?
scenic sierra
would Jaithys rank 5 be better than a 236 drust axe or would the 55 verse from axe outweigh it?
err, sorry 246 Jaithys rank 5
ember rose
246 Jaithys is better
scenic sierra
much obliged
full quiver
wep damage is higher
sharp meteor
10 ilevs is a bit
what ilev replaces that though is it like challenger or something
elfin valve
wep damage is higher
:99:
gloomy warren
So, new to arms, and only played condemn, is spear or necro really that much better ? Do you think so after the upcoming nerf to spear also? Im debating lvling another covenant for the hell of it this week.
Though i did prio crit so maybe thats a bad idea till i get more gear
sharp meteor
necro gives a lot of durability and conq banner turns you into aa little ret paladin, and buffs your teammates
also eight seconds is a super long time to be pinned
elder wigeon
kyrian generally is best but it's pretty debatable now with many players learning how to bug out of the spear
sharp meteor
yeah playing against kyrian arms in 20% of games is making people a little more familiar with it
gloomy warren
I went condemn cause it looked simple and fun and was good for lvling, my leggo is t5, 6 next week. I may wait til i can make another t6 before leveling necro and comparing, does it really hit that much harder?
i worry with the nerf incoming to kyrian that itll be a bad choice for me