pvp

[wheat jay]

but imo top 1-2%

[urban skiff]

that's the title range

[wheat jay]

is a good glad distribution

[green anchor]

wonder if people quit because of the addon purge

shieeet can't use my WAs

parma unsub angle

[wheat jay]

i doubt it

[urban skiff]

I'll live without them

:d

[green anchor]

Only time I used WAs was in pve

first time in DF for the bloodthirst crit buildup

and cleaver stacks

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-laugh-laughing-lol-giggle-gif-4925536

[wheat jay]

brother

where wins?

[urban skiff]

just thrown away

[lucid walrus]

and we haven’t even hit the .7 patch yet

[urban skiff]

These chucklefucks on my team decided we had to go the voidweaver when the presevoker couldn't even keep anyone alive

Threw away an easy win

[solemn elm]

inflation goin cray

another unchained cool

[urban skiff]

also the sv hunter instantly, and I mean instantly, feigned every hex I cast even when I didn't even target him

[green anchor]

cheating

hacking

styling

[solemn elm]

wasting time casting a hex on hunter when you can just be cranking

[urban skiff]

I have to stop the damage somehow when the healer can't keep anyone alive

Totemic don't crank all the time, only on go

[wheat jay]

man forgot what dmg is xD

wtf

[lavish quest]

Is it jover if inflation is high and I'm still 1800?

[solemn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-says-saying-no-outfit7-gif-24967985

how is it jover if season ain’t over

just gotta keep playing

also you’re like 2100

play that warrior and don’t stop trying

ur already on the cusp you just need a streak

[lavish quest]

I'm 1800 in shuffle

Well actually more like 1700

Down bad out here

[latent fossil]

Mortal Strike

Ok week’s over

Rest until monday

Now I’ll stay on my bed, drinking and wondering why Im alone

[green anchor]

Mortal Steak

make a tauren warrior and name him that

[scarlet trout]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[solemn elm]

oh pff who cares abt that when you’re already gaming on 3’s

save that shit for later

me save snack mmm for latur

[latent fossil]

Flep can you send me a woman that falls in love with me

[solemn elm]

best i can do is a hug for now

[worldly oriole]

im quing up my 2530

shuff

[latent fossil]

[worldly oriole]

fuqqed lob

[solemn elm]

boa get off that ugly ass bfa one we got a new proto drake

[green anchor]

Tony forgot he has the new glad mount

it's Joe Ever

[worldly oriole]

actually can do good this lob maybe

[lavish quest]

You think he's a trafficker or somethin?

[latent fossil]

Leland

[lavish quest]

I don't know women

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cool-ai-funny-on-a-palm-gif-15889850975462118146

[latent fossil]

Damn

[solemn elm]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HJaf_ODXoAcb_KX.webp

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-brasil-dance-gif-18317846230783265167

[rancid granite]

steals

[idle falcon]

me fr

[latent fossil]

Can you even make money with skinning?

[worldly oriole]

I Think You Need Bofa TO Make Money Off That

[green wharf]

you could at the start of the expansion

[jovial torrent]

fishing was ok like 3-4 weeks ago, not sure if its still ok money

[latent fossil]

what's the go to now

[jovial torrent]

probably just making good use of daily concentration, but i really dont like that kind of gold making

[green wharf]

i just do wq

[latent fossil]

Mages and their fucking mass inv make me want to switch to PVE lmao

[scarlet trout]

@frank knoll stop posting weird shit in blood-main

[frank knoll]

Naw i only say weird stuff in Skyhold PvP

[scarlet trout]

you said san’layn was worse than db

Thats weird

[worldly oriole]

im 2620 iin shuff now

just had a healer dc match 3-3

3-2*

fuqqed lob

[gaunt scaffold]

Is there a title for solo shuffle?

[worldly oriole]

yeah, top 5 will probably get it at the end of the season

[gaunt scaffold]

Ahhh gotcha

[worldly oriole]

maybe alittle less maybe alittle more

[gaunt scaffold]

Galactic gladiator or is it something else?

[worldly oriole]

Galactic Legend

[gaunt scaffold]

That’s fire

Do you get to keep the title tho

Or is it that seasonal bs

[worldly oriole]

yeah you keep the galactic one, for finishing rank 1 range

but you also get a title just "legend" for 100 wins over 2300

that you lose

[gaunt scaffold]

Sheeeesh

I see

[solemn elm]

yea galactic legend

gotta be up there

maybe we get galactic legend pajamatony

need you to destroy rytez

[gaunt scaffold]

I’m not that good, maybe good enough to get the mount lmao

I’ve floated 2200-2300 before just pugging lol

[solemn elm]

then you got dat

keep trying and gaming

[worldly oriole]

damn a 2-4 knocked me down to rank 8 lol

every lob was sketchy tonight

[solemn elm]

shoulda sat lowkey

and q’d the other tony pj

[worldly oriole]

its all good. im still up a lot

and 2685 isn't safe so

[green wharf]

another week

no frost mage nerf

catdead

[latent fossil]

mass inv mass inv mass inv

mass inv

mass inv

holy shit

almost uninstalled the fucking game tonight

[dim thunder]

Nerf or remove mass invis, tune down ray of frost again.

Good to go.

[solemn elm]

need mass invis to go ray of frost is chill only time they do any form of damage they need like something atleast you know

as much as i wish the only ability they had was just like frost bolt or some shit they gotta have somethin too

doesn’t help most mages are night elf aswell they like being the invisible man

[green wharf]

the problem imo

is blinking while you cast it

thats some bullshit

blink should stop all casting

ApuShrug

[jovial torrent]

i think blink does cancel it, unless that was changed

[solemn elm]

nah it’s shimmer

[jovial torrent]

but them having 2 charges of blink is bs, they never used to be able to get that, and u get a 3rd i think from alter time, so gl stunning them

[solemn elm]

you can cast while using shimmer, if they are blink stun whenever you stun them they blink it

[jovial torrent]

blink just shouldnt break stun or should be max one charge

[solemn elm]

i wish

[jovial torrent]

2 charges on 17 sec cd , means it is literally impossible to cc a mage as long as he doesnt blink thin air

[solemn elm]

pretty much that’s what you look for

if you see them blink thin air stun them asap

[green wharf]

what you mean blink thin air?

[solemn elm]

sometimes your own presence will force a blink because they just want to get away from you

they blink forward for no reason whatsoever

other than for aggression

[green wharf]

oh

like heroic leap charge fear?

[solemn elm]

you can just bolt them after they blink they won’t be able to get out, if they’re blink stun

way you can tell almost immediately is just bolting them and they blink forward that’s blink stun

and then obviously as you know cast while blinking is shimmer

[jovial torrent]

i think u can get ahead if u spear them, cus they can blink out of spear if they time it right

[solemn elm]

type shit

[jovial torrent]

but then u have a DR stun u can get em in

[solemn elm]

i usually spear them first

because the leap is too good

wasting zero mobility

[jovial torrent]

whats really annoying me is i spear and they insta nova, which somtimes just deletes my leap from the spear

[green wharf]

NOTED

i think is harder overall to face blink stun

kinda bs since the cd is very low

and is basically another medalion

[jovial torrent]

it used to be a trade off, u either get 2 charges shimmer or 1 charge but its blink that can break stun

[solemn elm]

mhmm

but just look out more for when they blink when that’s the case

i hate blink stun more than shimmer but shimmer was sooooo frustrating like last season so many mages would sheep in my face and blink away and edge me so i can’t kick them

i’m just thankful shifting power is gone because the mobility creep was actually at its maximum especially vs arcane bro. straight up UNTOUCHABLE

double blink alter up, displacement into another blink into another displacement yea nice you’re just covered in grease

[green wharf]

ReallyMad

damn mage

btw

i was toying with stats to get more verst, you guys think this good?

is that or this one so far

need to change head+shoulder later, im not going for the engineer head cuz im not losing my profession

[dim thunder]

Roughly the same as mine. I had 24/25% versa before and died a lot more easily. I have the same issue of needing to use crafted engineering gear if I want to reasonably increase my versa (probably at the expense of mastery). But I dunno, with the 3% dmg nerf, it might be better to not stack too much more versa.

Wait, where are you getting crit from?

[severe skiff]

battle stance

[green wharf]

yescatanim

[green wharf]

you can do wrist

i sure love when you have a druid and a shaman in the team

[green wharf]

man, why the hell glare fucks bladestorm

such a dumb spell

[dim thunder]

I think it fucks up thunderclap too.

[solemn elm]

chilliando :]

you guys are chillin

with the stats

[solemn elm]

get that 30%

you gon be tankier all around

[latent fossil]

wrghterwhryjutdkyut

[solemn elm]

and glare fucks everything you are incapable of attacking for like 4 seconds but you can still interrupt

[latent fossil]

I can't fucking sleep god damn it

[solemn elm]

are you too anxious

[latent fossil]

maybe , idk

damn

[rustic wind]

@solemn elm when do you sleep? Ain’t it like midnight now for you?

What yall’d do here?

The ele 6-0 us hard

also in a prev lobby with Affli and Dev DH

The fuck’s the deal with ele shamans

[dim thunder]

Got a poor undergeared elemental in solo shuffle. Farmed him hard. But I got my enchantment at least.

Time to go for duelist.

[solemn elm]

i sleep a lot during the day since i work late at night and i end up just staying up until like 5 or smth

[solemn elm]

you got this :]

[spice hornet]

Mud legit queues double warrior triple healer 5s

In tbc

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

says who

[solar meadow]

Hey guys! Whats the general consensus on colussus vs slayer atm. I see more slayer enjoyers rising. What would be prefered for a new warrior with duelist exp in SS this season?

[green anchor]

isn't Nyheim petkick

[rustic wind]

Col default, Slayer into certain double caster comps (esp mages)

Where landing demo is difficult

[magic wing]

I go slayer when I want bigger burst

And know they not going me

Colo kinda weak in the burst department untill 10 stacks

[lavish quest]

Notice no denial

[solar meadow]

So you dont typically use demolish unless have a decent amount of stacks? As in pointless to use in opener?

[lavish quest]

You can use in the opener

No real reason not to

Since you can build stacks with it on CD

[fast rover]

Hey guys what’s burst rotation for both col and slayer, or can someone point me in direction to a useful guide

[magic wing]

Yeah you can but its pretty weak

And you 100% get cced in it

Disarmed etc

[deep stream]

i like to use it pre CS to get disarmed before CS

on opener

[lavish quest]

No real big burst rotation tbh.
Colo - Pop CDs, Colossus smash, storm bolt target, demolish, mortal strike. Proceed with normal rotation

Slayer kinda similar but you bladestorm for your dmg instead of demolish

[magic wing]

BS on colo also does nothing lol

Just root immune and gets rogues out of stealth

[lavish quest]

Yeah bladestorm on Colossus is just for utility

[solemn elm]

it’s best to use demolish in the opener so you can just line it up with your colossus smash and a stun, if they cc you that’s fine you can still crank really hard regardless your next demolish will line up with either a bolt or a shockwave and c smash so you just c smash stun then demolish so you can’t be stopped

[magic wing]

Yeah makes sense

[rustic wind]

Arms, Affli, Surv and BM—rank the lobby

[magic wing]

Ez lobby

[wheat jay]

6-0 for you

[rustic wind]

Oh… i went 2-4

Healers were MW and VW Disc. I couldn’t keep to a target well, targeted the Affli or BM, swapped Surv on kite

Also twice I was bashing someone and my healer just…..left with the other dude and I died

In retrospect I should’ve gone on the Surv to help my lock (he died twice)

[green wharf]

survival is weird

sometimes their cringe combo kills

[wheat jay]

When stars align with buffs

It is cringe

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[wheat fiber]

arms or fury atm? I main fury in pve so I'm way more comfortable with that, not played pvp much recently but last time I did fury was borderline useless and arms was just superior in every way. Is it still like that?

[rustic wind]

shaman was 12x R1

[rustic wind]

fury pumps single target massively but is a glasscannon

[worldly oriole]

push gladi

does 1% get the mount or .1%

for m+

[rustic wind]

streaming

[scarlet trout]

1%

[wheat jay]

1%

gotta do like resil21

and youre probably safe till the end of season

[worldly oriole]

because this ret on my group said he didn't want an aug for his r1 group

[wheat jay]

cool shit

[lavish quest]

Arms is better. Fury is still good enough to play tho

[worldly oriole]

damn went to poo and missed ss

got like insta pop now

sketchy lobby man

HE VOID elf out my darkness

lmfao

[idle falcon]

@wheat jay HELP MY MOM IS LISTENING TO WEREWOLF LOVE STORIES AT MAX VOLUME AND I CAN HEAR IT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE IM CRINGING AF

[rustic wind]

yo guys wish for something

[wheat jay]

bro your mom is gone

[rustic wind]

my rating's falling

[wheat jay]

shes a femgooner now

[idle falcon]

"try and keep me away, he wispered"

bro

😭

[wheat jay]

ahahahahaha

rip you

[idle falcon]

wanna run some pvp games

[lavish quest]

LMFAO

How old were you again?

[idle falcon]

i hear it through my voice cancelling headphones

[idle falcon]

22

like the taylor swift song

xd

[lavish quest]

So she's 40 something then eh

[idle falcon]

56 i think

give or take

[lavish quest]

Okay, so she had you on the older end. And falling to that at 56

[worldly oriole]

damn went 3-3

in the caster lob

[idle falcon]

yes

she had 3 kids

then 7 years later after the third

me

xd

[latent fossil]

What’s a werewolf love story

[idle falcon]

you don't wanna know

[wheat jay]

doing 3s with choppah

and i am following in the steps of mighty tony

Tony Pajamas

in other words im havoc

@worldly oriole you proud papa?

[idle falcon]

[worldly oriole]

xd

fleperd ditched me

on warrior havoc

[rancid granite]

whats the item for vers stat

the only one i see is shadowlands?

[worldly oriole]

cogwheel

if talking vers only

[rancid granite]

this 1?

AI told me it doesn't exist

this is our future

[worldly oriole]

ya

[rancid granite]

thank u

[wheat jay]

OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

GUYS

LETS

NERF

DK

WHAT IS THIS DMG!?

[idle falcon]

xd

[wheat jay]

bro any dk playing this season is boosted beyond human reason

[copper fox]

Did you guys go dk?

Or Hunter

[wheat jay]

both kinda

mostly hunt

[worldly oriole]

thank god its timewalk

again

next week

[wheat jay]

true

leveling 2nd dh

[idle falcon]

won 2/3 cause someone left

got 11 rating

and my mmr is 2510

rating is 2484

i think

xd

[worldly oriole]

should i just sit 2657cr on main dh in shuffle lol

[idle falcon]

someone will take your place

only a matter of time

[worldly oriole]

ya ik

so i guess it doesnt matter

only matters end of season

[latent fossil]

Yes, I will.

(I won't)

[copper fox]

You need a second to leap frog if you’re pushing title

Imo

[worldly oriole]

yeah im 2200 on alt gonna que that one more

[rustic wind]

When bashing, and target pops/gets wall, do you continue pumping or switch, if switching is costly (need to burn a lot of mobility, targets are far)?

[lavish quest]

Joining team double up I see

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

I really need a team

For 3s

But i have no idea where to look

[scarlet trout]

triple warrior comp

[idle falcon]

U play DK

[solemn elm]

lfg

[sharp meteor]

lfg

shuff when u wait

met my healer in shuff cos we were both foxes with glasses

alt of same spec to spam q on also nice

[latent fossil]

last night I did 3s and didn't switch to slayer at all, couldn't be bothered

am I depressed

[lavish quest]

Met my heal from being able ambassador

[scarlet trout]

your healer wanted to have a moderator in their pocket for wowcord huh

[lavish quest]

You could try hanging in the healing classes discord @idle falcon

[solemn elm]

no

[scarlet trout]

not monk though

they dont have a pvp channel

[lavish quest]

She's a partner (role above mine)

kekw

[scarlet trout]

cherry?

fair

simp

[lavish quest]

They do have a pvp channel, what are you on about

[solemn elm]

just depends on what it is and if you have to train something to stop their damage it’s garbage to use extra mobility to go across the map for a few seconds and waste mobility then

[lavish quest]

Yes, but no simping tho

I still LFG pug for practice tho

Tho yesterday I started just shuffling for practice

[scarlet trout]

monk discord?

thought they closed it

[idle falcon]

all the healers in shuff for me call me slurs

[idle falcon]

where dat

i am in the priest discord

well all discord

but i occasionally talk in priest discord

should i see there

like ask

"i am 2.5k warrior in shuffle looking for heal"

or will i get timedout

xd

[latent fossil]

Flep what do u feel when u see this

[sharp meteor]

bein bad or mid dps in shuff or keys is like bein fat and bald on a dating app

gotta bring something to the table

like makin the groups

qing 24/7

or w/e

[green anchor]

[lavish quest]

Maybe you need a minimum rating to unlock it

keksquad

[scarlet trout]

da,m

wtf

[lavish quest]

You should be able to do that. Worst case, you get a warning

There's also a world of pvp discord, where you can look for people. Idk how successful you'll be but give it a shot

Wish they or some other pvp discord would be approved for the portal room so I can usher people to a pvp spot. But alas, they're all probably too naughty and degenerate for it

[idle falcon]

what if

i like

make a party in lfg

and say

2.5k solo shuffle rating LF group to push 3's

and try to make team

or will i get muck

xd

[lavish quest]

That's likely your best bet

[idle falcon]

yeah IG

[lavish quest]

Just may be fickle. LFG people can add you and then just never play again anyways

[spice hornet]

Yup

Caught in 4k that’s why

[sharp meteor]

Kind of funny how blitz is still just like this

[latent fossil]

xd

[lavish quest]

Oh yeah, speaking of monk. I hear they're bugged atm

According to a tweet from the meepster

[copper fox]

I honestly hate this

[latent fossil]

How so

[lavish quest]

https://x.com/meepmonkmw/status/2060589524535882125?s=20

meepmonkmw (@meepmonkmw)

🚨CABAL BUGGED MW🚨 Mistweaver now does more than 50% less damage than normal with a bug right now, 1 week before I play in grand finals. PLS FIX because mw is completely unplayable without this bug fixed and i have no chance next week, cant even practice...

X · May 30, 2026, 5:10 AM

[scarlet trout]

are they ever not

[lavish quest]

In theory yes

This is clearly why my last 3s session didn't go well and not me sucking

COPIUM

[worldly oriole]

lol

they wanted 4.50 for a small cinnamon toast crunch icecream cone at dq

[gaunt scaffold]

6-0’d solo shuffle match at 2k gained 58 rating. Is the climb up gonna be toxic?😂

[lavish quest]

That would have meant the MMR of the match was low compared to your own

Usually a 6-0 is a +72

[gaunt scaffold]

Gotcha

Sidebar Aug is fucking crazy

[jovial torrent]

playing so trash, its all rmx boomy dk hunter getting kited and cant seem to play right

[wheat jay]

all good

[lavish quest]

You two basically gladi yet?

[jovial torrent]

eh we hit 2200 mmr then dropped again, been playing not great today, tomorrow will be better if i can sleep tonight

[wheat jay]

we'res till +50

[latent fossil]

Choppah u EU or NA

[sharp meteor]

I didn't queue for 7 days and got 150 mmr.

Number go up (bigly).

Another 3-3 because only 1 healer

[latent fossil]

Kennie can u do me a favor

[sharp meteor]

Probably not

[latent fossil]

Send me 8M gold

Oh u said no

FUCK

[sharp meteor]

I don't even buy myself the good enchants until 3 months into a patch.

[latent fossil]

Why

[sharp meteor]

Stingy.

Need more gold.

[latent fossil]

its okay just give me your credit card info and I’ll buy it

Trust me bro

100% safe

[sharp meteor]

The last thing I'd spend real money on

on this planet

is prob wow gold

[idle falcon]

for some reason if u don't queue for a couple of days

your mmr goes up

blizz like

"plz play"

xd

[pale crow]

Is it worth to craft some engineering pure versa gear for pvp?

[sharp meteor]

its meant to be 20 mmr per week

right now its 20 daily

cos they want people qin

so thats neato

[idle falcon]

yeah

i was 2461 mmr last week

wait i mean

2 days ago

or 3 idr

now im at 2510

xd

[pale crow]

Jesus christ, thats huge

[idle falcon]

how are you @sharp meteor

[latent fossil]

I’m good how are you

[idle falcon]

you are not kennie

[latent fossil]

We are all Kennie

[rapid moon]

This is a new channel for #pvp - please behave like adults and keep your private chats to yourself. This is a class discord, not somewhere to shit talk people.

We understand that a channel can't be "on-topic" all the time, but the behavior, chat and topics previously discussed is absolutely not ok. Consider this a second chance.

[marble marten]

Damn a purged pvp channel?

What happened

[knotty atlas]

The second part of Vel's message sums it up.

[vernal plank]

I hope it was not the air-fryer chat. That was of great value to me personally.

Let me kick it off with a question - what do you guys run demolition and warbringer into? I thought they were garbage but my 3s team seems to like demol into warlocks and warbringer into DH

[elder wigeon]

demolition into warlocks you know are running dark pact and MW monk comps

I run warbringer when I just need more damage into a specific comp and don't need two utility talents

[vernal plank]

sweet, thanks. Do you pop CDs to demol usually?

[elder wigeon]

generally the lock should be pressing dark pact when you use your CD's so it's kind of an optimal scenario right there

against MW, it's less consistent because the MW isn't always going to bubble your CD's because what you're hitting has personal CD's

sometimes you have to shatter the bubble without CD's like avatar or warbreaker

[vernal plank]

yeah sweet, thanks!

[fervent arch]

[marble marten]

I remember the days where this was an active channel

[lost hollow]

Hello guys

Woyer op pls nerf

Ty come again

[frigid bear]

I have a PVP-related question! Is slam that important? Is it worth the global/rage? If ignore pain is not up should i be pressing that instead regardless?

[fluid lichen]

you shouldnt be dumping into IP if you are on the aggressive and not taking damage

[frigid bear]

So there slam becomes the filler?

Also is rend worth it as a Kyrian war? Or is it mainly a necro thing vs certain comps

[elder wigeon]

Slam is completely filler if you have plenty of rage to spend and are taking no damage, it's also used a lot to kill totems like Healing Tide, or Spirit Link

Ignore pain is pretty expensive, I wouldn't be pressing it unless I was taking some good damage

if you're playing with brutal vitality I like using it when I'm doing a ton of damage to build my ignore pain up a ton while I'm being offensive to afford being in battle stance longer, one of the most efficient ways to use ignore pain if you're also the target

[frigid bear]

Makes sense ^^

Am on my 7th alt to get kicked into Arena very shortly. Just trying to get the basics down of arms this season

Not looking forward to getting stomped on by boosters with my 220 ilvl.

[elder wigeon]

it's not any more fun at 240, at 2300mmr getting stomped on my Rdruid Hunter in 2's because not also playing with rdruid and being 19 ilvl undergeared

[frigid bear]

When is Rdruid hunter ever fun to play against

[marble marten]

I played at 2.3 mmr wuth 215 ilevel. You can do it!

[frigid bear]

I believe

[marble marten]

I miss you @fickle forge

[warped warren]

what happened to our precious shit post general?

[elfin surge]

Do i q with rdruids?

every ret war qs with one

[elder wigeon]

rdruid is op it's the move

rdruid getting bubble next patch cements them as the gods of healers

[elfin surge]

im the last rsham ret war gamer

[elder wigeon]

i play rsham retwar too man

[elfin surge]

have u tried rdruid

[elder wigeon]

idk a good rdruid

[elfin surge]

i qd it on alt

[elder wigeon]

but ik rdruid retwar does better into jungle and cleaves

which is the meta

[warped warren]

why

is it better

[elder wigeon]

rdruid makes one target unkillble with cen ward

you have to swap constantly against rdruids and that allows you to essentially be unkillble while you don't have CD's, you swap off, and that usually gives the comp enough time to have a response to CD's

it's extremely hard to work down the CD's on a single target against rdruid, that's what makes it so strong

[knotty atlas]

Magnusz' 9.1 Arms PvP Guide

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1oY5EiRic-GLsl1aMC_x5XpnZeaE53IVuInmWI2vJt7k/mobilebasic

[knotty atlas]

Magnusz' quick information

Stat priority:
Venthyr - Vers > Crit > Haste = Mastery
Kyrian w/ Elysian Might - Vers > Crit > Haste > Mastery
Kyrian w/o Elysian Might - Vers = Haste > Crit > Mastery
Necrolord - Vers > Haste = Crit > Mastery
Nightfae - Vers > Haste = Crit > Mastery
(if using Battlelord as any of the specs Haste becomes increasingly more valuable and I believe would be more valuable than Crit instead of equal to it)

Legendaries
Venthyr: Exploiter on Ring (was shoulder before because you could get double Crit/Vers ring because of the BOE ring) |Misshapen Mirror on Chest
Kyrian: Elsyian Might on Legs | Battlelord on Wrist | Misshapen Mirror on Chest
Necrolord: Battlelord on Wrist | Misshapen Mirror on Chest
Nightfae: Battlelord on Wrist | Misshapen Mirror on Chest

Covenants:
Kyrian > Venthyr > Necrolord > Nightfae

Talents:
2: Sudden Death
3: Storm Bolt
1/3: Massacre/Rend - Rend is really good when playing Battlelord with higher levels of Haste versus high armor targets (plate/mail shield wearers) where you have high uptime. Rend much lower value versus low armor targets.
3: Defensive Stance
2: Warbreaker
2: Avatar
2: Dreadnaught

[knotty atlas]

Joefernandes' 9.2 Fury PvP Guide

https://www.wowhead.com/fury-warrior-pvp-guide

[knotty atlas]

Karanze's 9.2 Warrior PvP Guides

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pvp-guide
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-guide
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pvp-guide

[marble marten]

Shouldnt have purged channel, we'd still have the pins

[fast fjord]

Joe has guides for Arms and Prot on Wowhead too - https://www.wowhead.com/arms-warrior-pvp-guide https://www.wowhead.com/protection-warrior-pvp-guide

[timber girder]

yo guys, I was wondering if its better to use focus or arena123 macros as warrior if you get used to them? anyone know?

[elder wigeon]

I use arena macros instead of focus because stealth clears focus, and I don't want to think about re-focusing just to use a focus macro

[timber girder]

yea seems like its hard to master but worth it in the long run

[elder wigeon]

I only use arena macros for stormbolt, disarm and duel

and I set who I want my arena target to be in the macro before the game starts

[spice burrow]

i play ret war disc for maximum zug

also what the hell happened to the channel history

???

[knotty atlas]

You can look at the earliest pin in this channel to find out.

[sage raptor]

Talking shit is a part of PvP

I have to let people know they're bad

They must be a DK main

[fervent arch]

Gotta keep in mind that this is a public forum, got nothing against banter

[wheat jay]

[warped warren]

i member old #pvp

[radiant spade]

[onyx cedar]

Flr those ppl using mmo mice, what kinda macros do u use?

[warped warren]

focus and arena 123

[mental agate]

U cute

[warped warren]

since we lost our yellow men i nominate @Rovicus to become our new yellow man

ah shit

[marble marten]

I want my yellow

[fervent arch]

Not sponky enough

[wicked magnet]

Kyrian w/o Elysian Might - Vers = Haste > Crit > Mastery <-vers = haste!?

[knotty atlas]

This is a pin from the last pvp channel. Feel free to ask Magnusz about it.

[warped warren]

only rovicus has the mass i mean strength to carry the color

[lost hollow]

yellow is color of rogue which means you are bad and stupid so true and factual

[onyx cedar]

U use duel? Stun? Or only target macros

[fervent arch]

Fuck.

Guess I went wrong in my life somewhere

[lost hollow]

prettymuch yeah

imagine wanting to be the color of a rogue

the most disgusting annoying broken class beyond life itself

[spice burrow]

Is rogue shaming allowed??? Pls watch the language

[modern geyser]

Rogue is unviable David wdym

[lost hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-aesthetic-didnt-read-dn-rd-didnt-ask-gif-20454668

[modern geyser]

Legit nobody play rouge

[lost hollow]

True its so awful

[modern geyser]

[wicked magnet]

am i the only one still rocking unhinged? love that lego

[sage raptor]

Outlaw only good rogue

Pistol shot go brrrr

Outlaw doesn't need stealth. Stealth is for chickens

[modern geyser]

Deeper strat kidney into vanish sap every Dr gg

👀

[lost hollow]

@modern geyser stop being on discord and log in

[modern geyser]

I pretend to work rn but soon

[lost hollow]

i shall root you out

[onyx cedar]

addon that shows arena target number above healthbar?

[elfin surge]

[wicked magnet]

like the above the healthbar for the unitframe? sarena?

[plush lagoon]

How does arms/mistweaver comp work for 2s? I've read up on some common comps and mistweaver isn't even mentioned in the guides. I'm assuming that means it's not too viable for us, but can someone explain why?

[lost hollow]

basically

mw is the worst healer in the meta

its so bad ppl forget it exists

but its not a bad comp

[onyx cedar]

is there anyone here that used arena target macros (nmot with an mmo mouse) if so where do you put them

[lost hollow]

scroll up down and click

or shift 123

[onyx cedar]

do u do ctrl 123 awell?

[lost hollow]

for kick 123 yes

[onyx cedar]

and for normal kick?

[lost hollow]

e

[onyx cedar]

like for ur target, if ur doing pve lets say

kk

[lost hollow]

udont have to copy mine

[onyx cedar]

what do u have on shift 123?

yeah ik

just getting some tips

[lost hollow]

just use whatev comfy for u

[onyx cedar]

yeah fosho

shift 123?

[lost hollow]

target arena 213

123

[onyx cedar]

u have a storm bolt arena cast macro?

[lost hollow]

focus and normal

[onyx cedar]

yeah same

[lost hollow]

if i had an mmo mouse mby 123 but not planning on buying one anytime soon

[onyx cedar]

i have one

[lost hollow]

kick andtargeting more important

[onyx cedar]

but have barely touched it

so hard to get used to

its crazy

mouse feels so clunky

[onyx cedar]

are those 2 the only arena macros u have?

[lost hollow]

ye

[onyx cedar]

would y say the majority of lets say 'gladiators'' use mmo mice? lol

[steel crown]

arcane mages are fucking disgusting in pvp

paired with a resto druid

[lost hollow]

no clue tbh

[onyx cedar]

i dont wnat to feel like im handicapping myself by not using the mmo mouse that i have, but its so hard to get used to, id rather stick with the normal one, but idk if its worth sticking with it or not

[lost hollow]

i had an mmo mouse and it just sucked for other games and died prettyfast

notworth imo

but udou

[onyx cedar]

are u a glad?

[graceful quarry]

poor david

[full quiver]

First Naga lasted 5 years

Had this current one I think for 3-4

[scarlet barn]

👀

[onyx cedar]

guys

can someone that are good with amcros help me?

#showtooltip Pummel
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [mod:shift, target=arena2] Pummel
/cast [mod:ctrl, target=arena3] Pummel
/cast [nomod, target=arena1] Pummel

i want a mod macro like this, but instead of pummel i want target arena 1/2/3

[warped warren]

🤔

[onyx cedar]

its possible right?

[lost hollow]

Just make a macro that says /target arena 1 and bind to button then repeat for same button but with shift/ctrl?

Just put it on a bar and hide it gg

[onyx cedar]

would work too

david

what do u use for scroll?

[full quiver]

I use ctrl 1,2,3

[onyx cedar]

for target?

[full quiver]

Yeah

[onyx cedar]

and outside of arena how do u target?

tab?

[full quiver]

Tab and click yeah

Don't really play outside of the arena other than korthia lol

[onyx cedar]

lol

makes sense

[proper nymph]

Why did you put gladiator in quotes

[thick reef]

maybe coz gladiator doesnt mean shit anymore

just an assumption 😂

[scarlet barn]

It still means relatively enough

Depends on context

[thick reef]

not really, i see the glad mount more often than store mounts these days

which i assume is a problem created by boosting

it still takes skill to get glad

[wheat jay]

do you have one tho?

[thick reef]

yes

[wheat jay]

nice

[scarlet barn]

If somebody is boosted, you can find out relatively fast

[thick reef]

and i never use it

cause i see the glad mount a dozen times every day

at least

in comparison to rarely seeing legion glad mounts

and any other previous ones

[thick reef]

not the point

im just being real. glad doesnt mean much when there's so many gladiators

whether they're boosted or not is in the end, irrelevant

however boosting is a high contributing factor to the state of the game

[scarlet barn]

Still less than 1 % of people have it so it is not that many. Lot of times you see also alts. And yes boosted people

[thick reef]

are there any stats which show the attainment percentage?

unless youve already seen them youre just assuming

it actually is 1% so you were right

i think allowing alts to use glad mounts was a mistake since we see the newer ones so often now

[full quiver]

the only people left playing PVP are sweaty pvpers

[scarlet barn]

🙂

[thick reef]

and boostees 😂

[sage raptor]

I'm neither :(

I just play to have fun

[rustic cave]

boosting wasnt as bad this season because it didnt give much of a pve gain. there was a time last season especially in 2s where it felt like almost 50% of games

now its really not so bad

[warped warren]

which one and prove it

[rustic cave]

here we go 😦

[thick reef]

im not here to stroke my ego lmao

[warped warren]

i dont care about your ego

[sage raptor]

Glad mounts are a dime a dozen. It's the easiest expac to get it.

[sage raptor]

Love the pfp

[rustic cave]

thanks!! Im da baby

[thick reef]

whyd u ask then

[sage raptor]

:D

[warped warren]

because you talk shit

back it up

[thick reef]

when did i talk shit

i simply stated a fact

snowflake

😂

[warped warren]

you refuse to say which one

interesting

[thick reef]

what?

[full quiver]

PICS OR GLAD DIDN'T HAPPEN

[thick reef]

ive got s1

[warped warren]

[sage raptor]

S2 mount is aids

[thick reef]

if u think im talkin shit coz i said pvp is ruined by boosters

ur max copium

[wheat jay]

just beat boosters

ez

[full quiver]

i think it was you saying glad mount means nothing

[thick reef]

ah

[warped warren]

i couldnt care less about boostets

[sage raptor]

Boostets

[thick reef]

then why talk to me

if u dont care abt my argument

makes 0 sense

[full quiver]

a better question

is why am i not rewarded with a cool horse for duelist??

[warped warren]

im taking a shit typing to randoms on my phone 😂

[thick reef]

stop shit talking

[full quiver]

literally

[warped warren]

[thick reef]

cant believe u accused me

cajght in 8k

[warped warren]

lmao dude

[thick reef]

KEKW

[ember rose]

Post glad pic

post bench

[bitter lantern]

[ancient sonnet]

Is Kyrian or Necrolord more versatile in pvp? Feel like more and more are swapping necro. Have enough cinders for 1 262 legendary and CBA to farm Torghast again.

[sage raptor]

Are you Australian?

[ember rose]

nah

[elfin valve]

boosters ruin the game same way personal trainers ruin the gym

[sage raptor]

Idk about THAT

The person being trained has to put in effort

[warped warren]

get good or die trying

🐱

[wicked magnet]

what exactly is boosting?

someones playing their character for them?

[orchid nova]

Paying someone good to play with you

[wicked magnet]

but then the person playing has to put forth some effort

[sage raptor]

I like harassing them in trade chat.

[thick reef]

LOL

this cracked me up tbf

[elfin valve]

🚎

[bitter lantern]

[warped warren]

i do it for free, somwtimes 🐱

[wicked magnet]

cba?

[onyx hinge]

cost benefit analysis

[scarlet barn]

cant be arsed 😛

[quaint egret]

What happened to this channel lmao

[wheat jay]

AND NOW YOU'RE BACK

Im done

[quaint egret]

I miss the drama?

[wheat jay]

Yes

[quaint egret]

Someone pm me the deets

Let's be honest we all know this channel was a jungle shitshow

[scarlet barn]

Maybe with you 👀

[quaint egret]

It was always aids

I just stirred the pot at times

[wheat jay]

At times lmao

[sage raptor]

Idk how you can expect a pvp channel to be civil.

Someone has to let people know they're bad

[finite magnet]

@thick reef pepelmao

[thick reef]

[finite magnet]

[heady spire]

jungle is massive

[scarlet barn]

wut

[nocturne radish]

booast me 🙂 nah jk haha

[wide tiger]

nd

[timid stump]

Hey I see a lot of guides in this disc talking about Battlelord, but I see most non Elysian Might people play Enduring Blow. In what case would someone play Battlelord? ty

[elder wigeon]

I don't think it's very good compared to enduring blow but it's a preference thing

[summer root]

Its a little outdated. It was good at the end of season 1. The meta is way to fast atm to get alot of use out of it.

[dusty saddle]

hey is pvp still bad

[elder wigeon]

Extremely

[warped warren]

not bad

[mystic barn]

it’s great

[elfin surge]

player versus player

[elfin valve]

gm boosters and boostees

[wheat jay]

Its not bad, just win against boosters, ez

[warped warren]

its not bad, just be good at the game, or play something you can get away with being bad at

[wicked magnet]

when people kept complaining about boosters i thought they were talking about people playing on their account, is the complaint mostly for people under 1800 where there is a significant gear gap?

🤔 also how would i go about selling 2s boosts if the healer is bad? i feel like i'd really struggle to get them to 1800

oh the servers are back, no wonder its so quiet xD

[marble marten]

if you are good, you can get any lpayer 1800

[wicked magnet]

any player in 2s? i dont think im that good then

[elfin valve]

Yea, every once in awhile you face some 27k hp ww and some 65k hp ret or some shit and get blasted by them in 2s and the monk gets 40 mmr; it sucks but you can smash through them sometimes anyway

[light granite]

I've had a hell of a hard time not selling boosts, but my healer friend is REALLY bad. Worst games are against double dps and he gets absolutely trucked in 2 seconds and I'm trying to 1v2. A bad healer is worse than anything because they bring zero value to the game. Just flop and die, and you're stuck.

Most days I wish he was just a dps, at least then he'd contribute to some damage

[proper nymph]

Just dont play with him lol

He's not your gf

You're not at risk of anything if you want to play with better people

[light granite]

he's my RL friend. known him since college. i just dont play 3s with him LOL. 2s i reserve for flopping every fuggin match

[proper nymph]

Lol

[vital talon]

Walk me through a flop game with him where he falls over a few seconds in

What do you say immediately and what does he say

"Nice try, maybe next time"?

[proper nymph]

or when you win despite his best effort to throw

"it doesn't matter we won right?"

[wheat jay]

@vital talon yo rovicus was here yesterday

[light granite]

He questions himself alot. He'll say "my bad man" i just couldnt get a heal off

or "maybe i just suck". And i feel bad, and say no man was my fault. I couldnt peel both them off you fast enough

He just gets absolutely molested if anyone touches him. If i dont blow up 1 of them at the start of the game, its over

mid field eating CC is his strong suit

i used to get pissed, but for years i just know its a fail, and move on. I use my 3s to push. Also do RBGs. 2's is a loss.

oh and he runs out of Intervene alot too

trinkets if he gets touched, so he's usually out of options by the time they are stacked on him

i intervene, fear, save my storm bolt, but it usually doesnt matter

[full quiver]

Post footage

[light granite]

Idk how to record

Do I need an addon?

[full quiver]

OBS is a good program

[light granite]

Ok thx. I’ll look into it see if I can capture this shitshow.

[wicked magnet]

weird thought popped in my head, i dont know if any of you guys play a boomy too but if a boomy starts convoke and suddenly additional mobs appear for example mechagnomes "Hyper Organic Light Originator" do they soak up some of the damage?

[bitter lantern]

[high veldt]

@bitter lanterncope

[bitter lantern]

all is right in the world

[wheat jay]

Is it really?

[bitter lantern]

yes

[wheat jay]

If you say so

[full quiver]

they should. if you are out of LOS when a boomy convokes and then enter LOS it will do damage to you

[shy aurora]

what leggo are necro fury warrs rolling with?

[elder wigeon]

signet

[shy aurora]

ty

[brave halo]

as venthir war, whats best pvp talent setup vs bm hunt/heal?

[mellow knot]

Sharpen, Death Sentence and Banner

[warped warren]

sharpen sentence warbringer

with double time

[wicked magnet]

go kyrian you won't regret it

[warped warren]

necro is where its at 😎

[brave halo]

... ok head exploding now 😛

figured venthir would be the best counter to those nasty hunters ;p

as my goal in life is to eat hunters 😛

Also i got exploiter and mirror now

reckon i play mirror always vs hunter?

[restive wasp]

Lads I got the choice infront of me. Venth or Kyrion. ONLY gonna run 2s with my irl resto druid buddy. Whats the easiest for us to get good rating with?

[wheat jay]

Kyrian is superior

[wicked magnet]

i love condemn, the animation, the sound, but im kyrian now and i'll never go back

blood link is hilarious, 100 yd range, no los, i go into korthia and do a heroic throw on people fighting a rare and hide, i dont even have the gems fully upgraded and the dot crits for 3k-4k and duration is super long

i have them at foreboding level which is 2nd to highest

[nocturne radish]

kyrian for win tbh unlless ur with Unholy dk or ret

[thick reef]

kyrians beat but ull still succeed as venth

so play whichever u want

[restive wasp]

Kyrian it is then I guess. Cheers everyone

[brave halo]

im still venthir ;p

[restive wasp]

haha so it really doesnt matter that much? No comp bias? 2v2/3v3 bias?

I kinda feel like vent looks more fun tbh

[brave halo]

they said before that venthir was best ifu play with a caster

[restive wasp]

I mean since Ill be running 2s with a healer

[wicked magnet]

yeah...just compare the soulbinds, venthyr is trash

[brave halo]

and in 2s they say venthir is also quite good due to uptime, but kyrian/necro got buffed quite a bit

[wicked magnet]

after 1 minute and 20 seconds of combat you have a few seconds of power

[brave halo]

enemy armorw ent down, execute damage buffed (not condemn) and a juicey new legend

[wicked magnet]

outside of that, so gimp

not even factoring rage starvation

[brave halo]

why isnt kyrian rage starving same?

they go crit now too right?

[wicked magnet]

cause of spear and lack of condemn

[brave halo]

No battle lords for 2v2?

[wicked magnet]

i dont use that lego so i dunno, i have a 190 version of it but didnt like it much, i dont know how useful that is

[brave halo]

yea, tried it before but didnt like it too much either to be fair 😄

[wicked magnet]

looking at drustvar 2v2 covenants though setting rating at 1800 you can see 25% of warriors there are venthyr but then 2100 rating it drops to 16.5% venthyr then 2400 drops to 7% venthyr

[brave halo]

Could it be the best 3v3 players who happen to be great at 2v2 too could make it work on anything!

?

But noobs like me need every 1% advantage they can get :p

[graceful quarry]

if you need every advantage you can get, dont go condemn

[brave halo]

Too late 🐞🐞

Also took several crit pieces already for vent :(((

[graceful quarry]

every cov goes crit anyways

[brave halo]

does mortal combo and unhinged have chance to multihit?

[wicked magnet]

yes, at max conduit your bladestorm has about a 36% chance to hit 3 times

er hit ms 3 times

not counting sweeping strikes

[lucid walrus]

would be neat if that was how percentages worked

[wicked magnet]

🤷‍♂️ i am not a math man, i used a probability calculator

what % should it be?

20% chance to send out an extra mortal strike and unhinged does 2 mortal strikes

[brave halo]

seems like for 2s, unhinged not so bad? could be pretty crazy burst potentially

[elder kelp]

which endurance conduit is better to run? brutal vitality or condensed anima sphere?

[ancient sonnet]

I went condensed because my Brutal Vitality conduit is low ilvl and I could buy a 239 condensed from the pvp vendor.

[wicked magnet]

condensed is nerfed in pvp

[elder kelp]

ah yes...that is true about condensed

also...I'm about to craft enduring blow lego for raid...was wondering if it's any good to use in pvp. Was going to just put haste/crit on it but if it's good for pvp I might do haste/vers. currently kryian with cov lego

[wicked magnet]

theres something weird about brutal vitality, the way calculation is strange, anyone know how it works? like for example i can war breaker pop all my cooldowns bladestorm and get less absorb than just bladestorm by itself 🤔

actually if i pop cooldowns bladestorm then ignore pain then it gets even higher i dunno i must be missing something

[onyx cedar]

To the ppl that dont use mmo mice and do pvp alot, where do u bind ur arena macros?

[full quiver]

Lol

[elder wigeon]

to my foot pedals

[onyx cedar]

Jesus

Ty

[elder wigeon]

No, I only use 3 arena macros and I just bind them to my keyboard

I don't use arena targeting, just @ arena macros

[onyx cedar]

Im asking because i havent found anything comfortable on keyboard, and maybe someone has some bind ihavent thought of

[onyx cedar]

Like what

[elder wigeon]

i use basically everything on the left side of my keyboard with a shift and control

I use arena targeting macros for duel, disarm and stormbolt, that's it

[onyx cedar]

Where did u bind those 3

[elder wigeon]

Shift 4, left alt q and shift t

[onyx cedar]

So u dont use a ”stormbolt” macro for specific arena targets?

[elder wigeon]

No, just who I need to be covering consistently, usually healers

[onyx cedar]

So u use focus macros?

[elder wigeon]

not really

[onyx cedar]

So what is ur stormbolt macro?

Like what does it do

[elder wigeon]

cancels bladestorm, targets arena number and stormbolts them

[onyx cedar]

Is healer always the same arena number?

[elder wigeon]

Nope

I have to change the number before every game pretty much

[onyx cedar]

I see

Why not just use a focus macro at this point cD

Ty for info tho

[elder wigeon]

stealth classes like resto druid that break focus with stealth

[onyx cedar]

Tru

I walk with normal keys or did u change them?

[elder wigeon]

I use wasd but I don't have turn binded, just strafe for a and d

[onyx cedar]

Yy ofc

Might start using asd to walk

Zxc i will bind arena target macros

Might work

[elder wigeon]

everyone's different and likes different things

not everyone has their rotation binded to the same thing

[onyx cedar]

Yeah exactly

Idk i just feel like im handicaping myself by not using target arena macros

Like if you master it, its so good

[elder wigeon]

whatever works for you is best

[full quiver]

Just buy a Naga for $50 or whatever lol

[wicked magnet]

when the g600 was on sale for 20 bucks each, i bought 12 of them xD

because i hate adjusting to a new mouse

[proper nymph]

Don't buy a naga if you have any amount of self-respect

[full quiver]

What's wrong with Naga

[thick reef]

i use for moving esdf. so i have "A" free for keybinds. and w

[fluid lichen]

tf

[warped warren]

[brave halo]

Whats best healer for thundercleave (elem/war)

[elfin surge]

rdruid

[brave halo]

what are the synergies there you feel?

[elfin surge]

dampen

[tepid arch]

Hey guys just came back from a couple months offline. Do we use Mikanikos now due to the high renown?

[simple rock]

play thunder with rsham if you are queueing into wizards

double grounding double purge is so funny

[nocturne radish]

just got a ww to que with me finally whats the best healer for our comp ww/war?

[modern geyser]

Earth elemental best healer

[nocturne radish]

haha true true

earth ele is like a 240 monk running around lol

[warped warren]

damgur

[tepid arch]

or is it preference?

[elder wigeon]

I only play mikanikos or kleia

kleia for ascendant phial + hope springs against assassination or feral based comps, mikanikos for everything else

the spear CDR and extra damage as well as the sparkling globe is just extremely strong in this meta, especially against rogue/mage comps

[nocturne radish]

yea mik is so defensive its amzaing lol

is kyrian better for ww/warr? or is it nerco now cuz of mast

[elder wigeon]

I've seen plenty of both

it's hard to say which is better, necrolord will provide the absolute biggest 1shots, kyrian will have the strongest consistent pressure and lockdown

[nocturne radish]

ah ok thanks yeah that makes sense

my ww wants me to stay nerco haha

[elder wigeon]

whatever works for your team

[nocturne radish]

yeah for sure, thanks im exctied dude i just keep him alive with intervenes and early rallys at 40% hp as well right and peel with snares. just making sure

[full quiver]

Necro is better for ret/war kyrian better for everything else