pvp

[idle falcon]

I find it more useful

[deep stream]

or just overall reduction of cc on team

[idle falcon]

I run into a lot of warlocks and priests

[deep stream]

it does both

u can hold till fear

if they have fear

[idle falcon]

Yes but 30 sec cd

And also removes slows

[deep stream]

ah u take solo one

never do that

[idle falcon]

Yes

[deep stream]

very bad

XD

[idle falcon]

Why

[deep stream]

always shout

[rancid granite]

looks like my ball sack

[idle falcon]

[deep stream]

being able to break ur healer fear

is too good

to not have

[idle falcon]

Hmmm

But i zug more with fearless

[deep stream]

no good

[idle falcon]

Look

I have elite

U don't

So i win

[deep stream]

XD?

u win

[idle falcon]

Exactly

If u can't back it up with facts

Then u lose

How I'm winning with fearless

[idle falcon]

Who's screenshot did u take that from

[rancid granite]

bro lifted it from google

LOL

[idle falcon]

Real

It's aug

💀

[idle falcon]

Your name is Ya

I don't see Ya

WAIT LOL NO PERSON WITH 2612 THERE

AHAHA

Like he put screentshot of aug score

Then showed warrior leaderboard

And the ratings don't even match

@solemn elm clown him

[wheat jay]

Cant see ya there

Sorry bro

[green wharf]

kekwait

[rancid granite]

color and all.

[solemn elm]

fearless is garbage

and im gonna clown you for playing fearless

play berserker shout and get your healer out of fears

if not banner shit so you dont die instantly

u got elite and u dont know how to act fr

[latent fossil]

ok flep RELAX

or we gonna have to throw hands

Zercher has been crying for 2 hours now, and now u wanna make Gala cry

[wheat jay]

Flep telling you all facts

Thats all

Can't improve otherwise

[latent fossil]

u can make someone improve with love and hugs

Zercher needed some love

[rancid granite]

i assume he needed wins more than anything

[frozen glacier]

good night

on the night shift today, nothinh to do someone is streaming rn?

[wheat jay]

No

[latent fossil]

ok boomer

[solemn elm]

gunai fishy

[frozen glacier]

agressive flep is goated

[rancid granite]

he really is a warrior at heart huh

[solemn elm]

yea lol i do get pretty mad about stuff

[frozen glacier]

some questions feels like people want to reinvent the wheel

and most of the times they just need to press MS more

[rancid granite]

they want to be more than zug

i get it

[frozen glacier]

yeah like you play warrior youre supposed to be a dumb

so be one

[rancid granite]

its just the bell curve meme let me see if ican find the one i made

[idle falcon]

i got elite because im chad

[frozen glacier]

the yellows should pin this

[solemn elm]

i will tell leland to ping that later i will save it

legit comes down to that every time

[rancid granite]

even when i want to big brain on sub rogue i legit always go back to it

and it always works lol

[frozen glacier]

lol

ive been playing some feral in the past days

but when i log on warrior its just different

dopamines levels always on high

[idle falcon]

ok guys u got me excited

imma play a quick shuffle match

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-akakichi-no-eleven-gif-6695986364367126664

[solemn elm]

play berserker shout noob

stop being fearless

shit is garbage

[idle falcon]

ok but if i lose im blaming you

also what addons do u use

[tame rain]

A "quick shuffle"

As dps

I wish

[idle falcon]

the only PvP addon i currently have is

MiniCC

and i installed it 3 days ago

someone in rando 2's told me to install it

xd

[tame rain]

Yeah its pretty much mandatory

[latent fossil]

Guys..

[tame rain]

Just having the ping that your healer is in cc is gamechanging

[frozen glacier]

honestly i dont think shuffle q that long

[latent fossil]

Fishy….

[frozen glacier]

i remember staying for almost an hour some expansions ago

[rancid granite]

u can't go wrong doing skillcapped its what i do and i have no idea what any of it is

[frozen glacier]

40 min

[tame rain]

I dunno I sit there for 20+ minutes sometimes

[rancid granite]

but its setup for me fine

[frozen glacier]

60

[magic wing]

I fucked around with skillcapped and its decent

[idle falcon]

i just want the one that shows how many wins i have so far after elite

[magic wing]

Just not out the box

[frozen glacier]

honestly sit on lfg is way better

[tame rain]

There is a macro to track the achieve

In native ui

On wowhead somewhere

[rancid granite]

the ui is odd but the addons seem all fine out of the box

[latent fossil]

Share the skillcapped vid lads

[idle falcon]

tis definitly a match

[rancid granite]

what vid

[latent fossil]

U guys not talking about a vid?

[frozen glacier]

i use skillcapped is good you just need to disable tha fancy things

[tame rain]

One thats 50% ad and 50% totally cooked tierlist please

[frozen glacier]

its a good time saver

[green wharf]

decreasing roar duration to 5s is crazy cap

[rancid granite]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/skill-capped-ui

[latent fossil]

Syeg I’ve got bad news for u

[latent fossil]

Noice

[rancid granite]

you see their recommended addons right there which i liked the most cause i got tired of every streamer having a different list of addons they recommend

[solemn elm]

download s arena to track your dr’s

also s arena is gonna show you your wins

mini cc s arena is more than enough mini cc does what 5 addons already do

just have to fix it to your liking

[rancid granite]

blizz plates the real goat

[solemn elm]

o yea my fault better bliz plates too

need that bad

i just use magnuzs profile

gets the job done

[rancid granite]

i do not understand how wow is playable without it; green border around ally bars, red border around enemy bars

literally unplayable without it

[solemn elm]

i don’t have the friend ones enabled can be overwhelming and click on friend on accident too if i’m trying to hit like a pee totem

really cancer when everyone is stacked too

[rancid granite]

cant track my team without it i made them nice and small so it works well for me lol

[solemn elm]

the marks in the game good enough for me

but there are a few other addons that can do the same like show a little healer icon above your friend

[rancid granite]

maybe if i had a bigger monitor lmao

[solemn elm]

what a diabolical video back then

funniest shit ever in like 2016

[jovial torrent]

yeh, i have friendly ones disabled but use betterblizzplates to make a icon

much clearer

[solemn elm]

definitely there’s a lot of profiles you can use aswell to see what they are

[jovial torrent]

i need to make a seperate avatar button for against rmp

when ur off dr but they refuse to go u and avatar is ust waiting

macro'd battle into avatar so cant use it against them somtimes

[solemn elm]

LMAO i just always weave in back and forth i make that my number one thing

you can do what mag does and have like b stance in the middle of the screen

[jovial torrent]

i just know im not on dr and if i press avatar which puts me into battle il be insta cheap'd#

[solemn elm]

so you subconsciously just press your stance

[jovial torrent]

prob is the 3 sec cd

[idle falcon]

somehow my matchmaking value increased by 1 rating even though i tied

xD

idk how i tied lol

like im playing very badly

i havent played in a week

im litterally spamming buttons

xD

also @solemn elm turns out i lied, i was 100 MMR over my at the time current rating xD

[solemn elm]

you still got points so

you’re fine

[idle falcon]

and my mmr went up lol

by 1

even though i tied

xd

[solemn elm]

that’s ok still chillin

make another warrior if you don’t want to lose that and try to get another one

and don’t forget to buy your tabard and weapons

[idle falcon]

i did

:3

what is the enchantment for this season

galaxy ooo

[rancid granite]

balls.

[frail lake]

It looks horrible imo

[idle falcon]

i like mountain

gives u the vibe of

"He's Unshakable"

Immovable Object

type shi

[frail lake]

The heck is that enchant

[south hemlock]

SL S1

[rancid granite]

that color version is legit

[south hemlock]

Better than elite

[frail lake]

Huh.. i dont remember that, weird

[idle falcon]

ya'll have trash mogs

this best

[solemn elm]

sinful flame

[rancid granite]

that is a 10/10 mog gala lmao

[south hemlock]

^

[frail lake]

Fury detected, opinion rejected

[idle falcon]

ikr

[solemn elm]

being a little kung fu master

[idle falcon]

also works

[frail lake]

I just want to wear 2handers equipped on the side
Some 1handers are larger than some 2handers so why cant we, smh

[rancid granite]

gotta log on and show you guys what real men wear

[idle falcon]

wb this

[rancid granite]

no one liked rafael be real

[frail lake]

Who is Rafael

[idle falcon]

should i add this @rancid granite

[rancid granite]

lmao

no

beard optional

[idle falcon]

ok this

[frail lake]

Wearing a 3 Pixel sword in 2026 smh

[idle falcon]

@rancid granite rate

[rancid granite]

u look like an outlaw rogue

[idle falcon]

not the look i was going for but sure

xd

[frail lake]

You look like one of those russian cagefighters

[faint hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/khabib-not-me-its-god-gif-12646714

[solemn elm]

male human warriors

[green wharf]

fullset

[solemn elm]

man BOTH yall look like you both would literally leap in and never parry

or enraged regen

can we be female human atleast?

just not a single button pressed, then be like HEALER WTF?!?

this male human stigmatism has to go

[rancid granite]

i need the mobility

[latent fossil]

Ass

[frail lake]

No

[solemn elm]

i’m in the wrong place nobody plays anything female here

[frail lake]

Why would an Alphamale play a female character

[idle falcon]

another tie lol

[solemn elm]

cause im tryna stare at some female ass

[rancid granite]

ask mud

[frail lake]

Only goons play female characters

[solemn elm]

what you mean

[idle falcon]

now my MMR is equal to my rating

any more draws is bad

xd

[solemn elm]

gotta get a 4-2uah

or 5 uno

[frail lake]

41 rating seems alot for just 3 wins

[solemn elm]

cus he had more mmr than cr

so he gets his complementary dollar

for winning 3 rounds

[idle falcon]

well i was 2430

and MMR was 2476

so ye

btw

i lost because

minicc

covers my CD manager

i didn't realise the first match

i knew something was wrong

but i was too like focused

so now i need to know how to move it

[solemn elm]

fix that shit up

just go to options and on the top addons tab and go to it

you can configure it however you like

[idle falcon]

how

oh i fiquered it out

i press test

and moveit

[frail lake]

Is that the new omnicc

[idle falcon]

there we go

put it on top

[solemn elm]

it does like 5 things at once

puts the enemy cds on the top, you can track enemy defensives on the tippity top but he’s a noob and has his like weak auras or whatever

i put that in the middle cus i have 3 iq

and you can see friendly cd’s aswell

and it does what bigdebuffs would do previously

[idle falcon]

ok good matches today

"good"

i got rating so whatever

xd

[solemn elm]

it also shouts like HEALER IN CC

and you got a bunch of rating you idiot

[idle falcon]

yeah

i need to fucking study xd

i have an exam on the 2nd

and the 4th

final exam

[solemn elm]

study bih then get legend wins

[idle falcon]

then graduate

my final final exams

[solemn elm]

W

[idle falcon]

just need to pass

and im happy

[solemn elm]

i will be there rooting for you and then celebrating after

[idle falcon]

rooting for me?

yay i can attack

XD

@solemn elm im downloading overwatch

will u play with me?

👉👈

not now but in general

[latent fossil]

Was trying to play with my ret

And idk wtf is the go to build now

They got like 4

I like Herald but fuck me give me a fucking build

@green wharf I thought we were friends

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/severus-snape-snape-pity-harry-potter-gif-25090115

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

sure but i don’t think i can play on eu

[latent fossil]

Flep have u ever done pvp with ret

[solemn elm]

if the meta makes me play it ya ret war is good

kind of just trade your cd’s correctly and you live for an hour or randomly 1 shot someone ret war style

[latent fossil]

wait, I meant

as a ret

[solemn elm]

not a lot but it would kind of just come down to me being bad at my util usage cus i don’t play that shit enough

most i did was play it when it was really broken all you had to do was like press hoj press wake and one dumbass verdict and they died instantly

i forgot the name of the ability but it’d just increase your damage after for like 15% aswell for literally 0 reason

actually the first time i’ve ever played a god class

was like judiciary some shit but it replaced verdict

[latent fossil]

I see

Interesting

[solemn elm]

first time i ever hit 2400 was in shuffle as that but then i locked in the next season

and just got gladiator after

why tho

[idle falcon]

I can play on NA

It's technically not region locked

U can switch regions when u want

[solemn elm]

i forgot

[worldly oriole]

thank god im gladi

[fast rover]

Just hit 2400 on ret, now nerfed to ground. Gearing up my warrior. What are some good warriors to watch on YouTube?

[main saddle]

i hit 2700 in 2007 and have been chasing that high ever since

[latent fossil]

Curious

I’ve only ever played war / ret

Since late tbc / wrath

[frozen glacier]

you guys are all boomers

[main saddle]

millenial but yeah

[green wharf]

REt was nerfed to ground?

since when?

[dim thunder]

Templar got nerfed, but Herald seems fine.

[solemn elm]

herald is perfectly fine

u just switch

[lavish quest]

Uhh... probably seramate or some shit and check cut offs? But I don't do that stuff. The R1 chasers would know better

[solemn elm]

and nothing will make ret bad so long as it has the utility

tell u one thing he’s far from any of that he’s like top someshit

but he’s trying

mister galastronk that is

[robust hearth]

tuesday

[fast rover]

Herald now relies on you to have a damage dealer teammate in shuffle to support, keeping him alive into deep dampening.

It’s fine just not as fun to play as the gameplay of Templar.

[solemn elm]

type shit just have to keep them alive for an hour

that’s just ret pally rn just util guy you don’t even do damage

but if you wanted an answer to your question earlier make a dk or dh or ww

oh my bad i’m trippin you asked what are some youtube guides. reading comprehension is out of the room

you can watch this laros guide

https://youtu.be/jZyISwkS_DA?si=lKqL_Yis1Hzi2wib

some of it is outdated by the tiniest bit like you can be slayer now aswell

not only forced to be colossus

[fast rover]

Warrior is my only other char at 90, prefer plate melee.

Is arms fun? Seems to do a ton of damage, but walking simulator as well in some degree.

[gaunt scaffold]

Slayer has been working great for me just shy of duelist n SS

Need to find 2 other degenerates to play with for 3s

Btw you guys using hamstring at all or just tclap

[dim thunder]

Macro'd hamstring to charge, but that's about it.

Depends on the opponent too since hamstring does last longer. More useful for a mage or something slippery.

Or if someone clears slows, then hamstring is good if thunderclap is on cooldown.

[idle falcon]

shi

i need to pump

[solemn elm]

always

[solemn elm]

use hamstring forever

never use t clap to slow people that’s worthless and garbage

[solemn elm]

and always walking simulator

anytime i don’t see hamstring applied onto my enemy it is instantly reapplied

the minute you charge and connect the first global should be hamstring then whatever else you wanna do

[solemn elm]

lfg

you should never have a moment where hamstring is just not on your enemy unless they freedom, or some slop that they used when it’s off reapply that shit again

when evokers are in hover don’t press that shit tho they ain’t ever gon get slowed

[urban skiff]

Do we spamstring into ferals?

[solemn elm]

always

they have to shift, if they shift re apply it, what are they gonna do, shift again? what are they doing now, being an idiot and just constantly shifting doing fuck all

feel me

usually happens when they’re scared

with most druids in general

[urban skiff]

I know when I'm really fucking up a hunter they drop a freezing trap on my ass

I don't know that ferals do when I'm fucking them up into high panic territory in the same way

Warriors will disarm outside cds if they panic

[coral juniper]

The only place where clap as a slow is remotely acceptable is the cart maps in bgs

[urban skiff]

or when you want to slow a rogue who's using evasion

[solemn elm]

they just spam shift bear and out of form a lot

to try to run away from you

and the auto proc is gone aswell

[urban skiff]

I feel like it has to be using a clutch or setup tool in an unintended way for a momentary benefit.

So like for feral it would be to maim without tf and feral frenzy probably?

[bright kraken]

first shuffle in ages

how much inflation has there been 😭

[solemn elm]

i have no idea what you mean

you’re thinking way too much

about nothing

[solemn elm]

too much

go 1 shot ppl with chakrams before it’s nerfed

[bright kraken]

tbh

i play PL/sent based on comp

against cloth or leather i usually go PL

mailor plate is sent

how inflated is 3s atm?

[solemn elm]

go q

astral 2.0

doesn’t stop going up aswell

all you have to do is play and there’s still a good minute before season ends too

even easier cause u can start getting wins at 23

[bright kraken]

damn

well at least im going up

[solemn elm]

u should be chillen

u just gotta find games again

it’s not astral 2.0 just yet but it’s like super close honestly

probably abit higher than astral

gonna end like dat

[bright kraken]

okay 😭

'hunter did 1.5 mil. afker i gueerrs'

my guy the mage was getting free polies on the healer

god the people even at 2.4k are idiots

ret was hojing the healer and mage was just falling over

warrior is just training the whole time

[solemn elm]

it’s 2400 with inflation so all of the duelist drones are there now

[bright kraken]

i just get annoyed that the shittalkers get to me when i know im better than them 😭

ust had a 1-5 from that lobby -.-

[solemn elm]

don’t even pay attention to that nonsense lmao

but ya the 1-5’s are super fucking annoying

i had like 2 in a row vs some absolute drones

but it’s just ss

usually the ppl who talk shit are the biggest robots you could ever imagine

i can’t stand those people that you just train normally then they type get off me like bro get over urself i have to train you 😭

[bright kraken]

dude so it was like VW rright

this wwarrior is training as we agreed

meanwhile mw is getting spam poiled

and im not on the priest because im tryna make sure that mw isnt in CC tghe whole game

they arent even fury

thewy were arms 😭

[solemn elm]

bruh LMAO

it’s valid to go vw all game but we need more cross

and that warrior doesn’t even know what cross cc is

[bright kraken]

cross cc?

[solemn elm]

ye

like, you know using your cc on the enemy dps so that they are crossed out completely from the equation

and you can continue to put it in the priests butt

[green wharf]

wish survival didnt had dumbstick so i could play in pvp, BM is a bit whacky right now

[solemn elm]

you used to have scatter and shit which was op cross cc now you’re just like there and watching your friend die

[green wharf]

scatter was alot of fun

explosive shot too

PeepoDown~1

[solemn elm]

well scatter shot been in the game since the start of the game, just was removed randomly here

so hunter skill expression is just pressing trap and being very dumb on the keyboard

nothing else

maybe kiting

[green wharf]

I often complin bout war design, but the dev doing the hunter specs need to be fired for sure

BM i dull and Lame, only zoo playstyle possible, MM is... like that

and survival is now bumberman with a gun but also rexxar who fight with pet man of the wild

[solemn elm]

u can play mm and cheese really hard just have to do very good stuff to get aimed shots off

[green wharf]

yeah, but its so janky to have 3h casting time of aimed

personally i dont like explosive shot either

not a fan of delayed damage

[solemn elm]

type shit

[urban skiff]

Bloodwork done, apparently I'm severely iron deficient suddenly?

do we have any doctors in here who can tell me how the heck that shit happens?

[jovial torrent]

u like dropped anything on yourself or hernia to cause internal bleeding?

[urban skiff]

I started doing cardio?

But that's only like 2-3 weeks ago when I finally joined a gym

[jovial torrent]

fuck thats it, you became a woman

dunno probs best to seek a pro if its a significant deficiency

[urban skiff]

Doctor told me to do iron supplements for 3 months and then new bloodwork. And he's curious about how much I'm drinking. Which yesterday was probably only 1½ liter before getting there, where I'm usually at 2½ at that point of the day.

So there's definitely a pro involved. But also iron deficiency could explain why my tinnitus has gotten insanely worse and why my brain feels so much slower than usual

enhancement so powerful I had to nerf myself on a biological level to retain difficulty

[jovial torrent]

intersting didnt know tinnitus gets worse with low iron, i too suffer from the ring

[urban skiff]

There's different kinds, to my understanding

[jovial torrent]

mine was most likely caused by playing violin

[urban skiff]

I have normal tinnitus which I feel like I can hear "in my ear", but this one that I've had on/off for a long time now is more like, inside my head?

and is the same on both ears

[jovial torrent]

hard to say if mine is in the ear or head, all i know is it gets louder if theres no background noise

[urban skiff]

I've always associated it with stress, but for a while now it's been absolutely constant and deafening, and that's one of the iron deficiency symptoms I think

[urban skiff]

Working as a machinist in an iron foundry here, a LOT of noise, the kind that is in your bones

Aw man, top 330ish now. I remember when I was only a win or two from the top 50

[jovial torrent]

top ratings is so odd, struggle at top 100 arms, somehow accidently get top 20 fury while just capping conquest

[urban skiff]

lower population does that, i suppose

[frail lake]

Im not a doctor but switch up your Diet for more food with iron
Most iron issues come from changing what you eat or eating less mm

[urban skiff]

I'd say I eat plenty of red meat, and whenever i put greens in anything it's always spinach first

so I don't think this is solved with food alone, unfortunately

[frail lake]

If its not food the next simple answer is your stomach tract. It gets weaker the older you get and not being able to absorb some nuttients is a common occurence. Iron, copper, zinc u name it

Unless you live in america i suggest to just visit a specialized doctor

[urban skiff]

I already have a plan with my doctor

And (s)he's not afraid to send me off to specialists for anything

That's the benefit of surviving cancer, no doctor dares take any chances after that

[frail lake]

Oh fork. Congrats on beating it. Was your cancer stomach related ?

[urban skiff]

Nah, testicular / lymph node

nodes?

[frail lake]

How in the world do you even find out to have that

[urban skiff]

Testicle turns into an almond

literally, like the tip of an almond

[jovial torrent]

i had a false scare of it, had to have a ultrasound on em, was told its just scar tissue/cyst

[urban skiff]

I was lucky it was the kind of cancer they can spot via blood works.

I don't really know the specifics of it but it's like, if the test is positive they KNOW it's there and can target it with chemo.

If the test is negative it just means it's a variant and they don't know whether it's there or not, so they have to wait for something to grow to the point where it can be seen on scans.

[frail lake]

Man the worst thing about cancer is that by the time it noticeably causes you pain.. its too late

[jovial torrent]

yup, also alot of times if ur young u just get pushed away with eh its probably nothing

[urban skiff]

doctors said it's something that happens where the testicle will already have cancer cells when you're really young, and when it travels down from being deep inside the body to being in/near the pouch it'll sometimes shave some of those cancer cells off on the way and they can then sit anywhere in the body like a ticking little timebomb

[green anchor]

Zercher elite check?

[urban skiff]

not yet, i failed final round last night

or I would have had it

[frail lake]

Isnt that Cluster spreading which happens during a later state of cancer

[jovial torrent]

are shams all switching to totemic now btw? or sticking with stormbringer

[urban skiff]

I think it's all the same

[jovial torrent]

ah right same stuff just a lil worse

[urban skiff]

I said early that the thorim's invocation isn't that big a part of our burst and nobody listened but now they're realizing that I was maybe right?

also there's something else going on that I already spotted and called out yesterday morning after looking over some other people's logs.

[jovial torrent]

only ascendance doomwinds is big isnt it? cu ive been trying not to disarm into proc doomwind

[urban skiff]

Where tempest will keep proccing itself like 4-10 times in a row

And also people are supposedly seeing more doom winds procs

Which I suppose might be because they ditched the deck of cards proc type, which I really hope they did

It sucks to get 3x doom winds procs in the first 10 seconds of the match and know you won't see another one for the rest of all the 6 rounds

[jovial torrent]

wouldnt be suprised if they had some back end proc protection that wasnt working, and it is now

[urban skiff]

But if that's the case,I think DRE might be good now

[urban skiff]

my theory is that the deck doesn't reset between shuffle rounds or even when going in and out of arenas

[split lichen]

Man LFG in game to find a group for arenas is ass. Everyone is just multi glad and says link glad.

Its my first mf season trying this man.

PVE has good filters to find different groups. But the pvp filter is literally nothing.

How do you guys find a group?

[urban skiff]

It's a proc system where you have a deck of 600 cards and 3 of them is doom winds.

Every time you consume MSW you remove cards and if one of those cards is doom winds you also take that out. The entire deck replenishes from new when you've gone through all 600 cards.

[jovial torrent]

join random ppl looking for gear/cap, list your own group and pray

[urban skiff]

I've jokingly said I perform better when I relog between each game and now I see that might actually reset that deck and be advantageous

[jovial torrent]

wouldnt suprise me if ppl were doing that in 3v3, the ammount of enemy shams that would get a few back to back doomwinds

and just steamroll our sham

[urban skiff]

If I knew that's how the system worked, I would be gaming the shit out of it between each arena game

Relog -> go hit dummy and put 20+ lightning bolts into it with 10 MSW

If I proc doom winds I relog and repeat

If not, I go in loaded up to the gills with the first 200 cards out of the deck

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1tqp44k/i_mapped_an_elite_hardstuck_chart/

lmao

[magic wing]

Its because its DEAD

Back when I did 3s in BfA the lfg was literally 4x more alive

And remember it was faction locked

[urban skiff]

Dead not because people don't play, but because people either assemble their groups super quickly or they don't use LFG anymore to find groups. They use other things like friends / bnet contacts / ingame communities / discord communities

[magic wing]

Yes actual ques are fast

Lfg ? D E A D

[urban skiff]

Like dating apps, the only people who are in the LFG for an extended period of time are the ones who cannot find a partner.

[magic wing]

I want BfA back man

We had pvp vault

[urban skiff]

I just want bloody token gear to matter when gearing, again

[magic wing]

Actual world pvp existed

So much good stuff

Yeah might aswell scrap bloody token gear rn

[urban skiff]

right now it's just honor gear for people who don't want to do bgs, which is actually a pretty good choice, since if you only care about world pvp content, you have no way to get honor for gear

I just miss how it used to be half the gearing process on alts

[magic wing]

That first season BfA world pvp with no flying was insane fun

Idk how they cant replicate that

[magic wing]

Now you transfer honor, boxes, farm crates gg done

[urban skiff]

Yeah but before you'd go do the weekly world quest and get 1k bloody tokens, also do a few world quests and collect another 1k bloody tokens, that's 2k for buying near-conquest level gear to supplement your conq gear so you could get into arenas and farm your conq

Now it's effectively doubled how long time you spend without conq gear, whether that's crate farming, random bgs, or using honor gear inside arenas

[magic wing]

Anything to make world PvP popping again

Idk how Blizzard didnt copy WvW from GW2 yet

They copied all the other ideas

[solemn elm]

either start your own or look for one

bloody token gear is garbage

waste so much time just trying to catch up on an alt

[urban skiff]

Yeah but it didn't use to be

[solemn elm]

when i can just log in and play

[urban skiff]

On an alt i'd be getting my bloody tokens just from levelling though, that's what I did in TWW

[solemn elm]

yea man go kill people for sparks fun 👍

awesome

waste so much time doing that slop on multiple characters

[urban skiff]

But that doesn't work anymore, it's just worse honor gear now

huh

Dude when BT gear was conq -3 ilvls it was goat. Do world quests while levelling and start out with a few extra pieces of near-conq level immediately as you hit level cap

that's like the opposite of wasting time

[solemn elm]

i’m not doing world quests while leveling bro lol i’m either buying a boost or spamming tw

[urban skiff]

Spamming tw sounds like an immense waste of time

[solemn elm]

again genuine waste of time because it’s just better to have honor gear and cq gear

and it’s not actually

literally got my evoker up in less than 4 hours

you play like a whole other game

[urban skiff]

Yeah now it is, I'm talking about in TWW when it wasn't the case

[solemn elm]

i’m talking abt tww too, it’s not fun doing sparks on literally like 3 warriors every week

do you not see the problem

and if i forget and fall behind its garbage

so how is that even a fun or good system

[urban skiff]

You got 10 sparks for a world quest

8 from rares, 5 from mud piles and treasures

I literally did my bloody tokens shit in minutes in the mornings between my dad duties

[solemn elm]

cause you have one character it’s never an issue then but i play multiple

[urban skiff]

If the issue is people don't want to do bloody tokens during the early season, they could just raise BT gear ilvl to conq level once they lift conq cap.

[urban skiff]

in TWW i had 2 shamans, 2 warriors, 1 aug, 1 rogue, 1 feral, 1 survival, 1 dk

[solemn elm]

why do any of that when it can just be completely irrelevant instead

like now

[urban skiff]

and also the experiments like paladin and shit

Because BT could easily be neat catchup gear for people who aren't repulsed by a MMO game containing a bit of pve?

[solemn elm]

i don’t change my minion in ffxiv

for a reason

occasionally he flops over to the side and makes a happy expression

i’ll send it later

[bright kraken]

Im so confused

[urban skiff]

me too tbh

but that's just my natural state

or unnatural, if we're looking at blood tests

[bright kraken]

Can you link the site?

The Reddit link wasn't working for me

The seramate link I mwan

[urban skiff]

https://seramate.com/stats/eu/experience?bracket=2v2&cutoff=1600&currentSeason=0

idk about the filters

i just copied it straight

[bright kraken]

this is me for survival hunters on my realm

or, there i am

or here for 3s

[wheat jay]

what is this shit?

[bright kraken]

XP vs seasonal rating

ive played for 8 seasons

[bright kraken]

and my current rating in shuffle (a few days ago) was 2109

[urban skiff]

something new seramate did I guess

[bright kraken]

without filtering for current season im here @urban skiff for 3s

i cant find myself on the shuffle one ._.

[urban skiff]

Yeah it's kind of missing a search button

[magic wing]

Where do you find this garbage

[bright kraken]

its bec ause the shuffle page believes my peak shuffle rating is 2109

[rustic wind]

Is Legend counted by won rounds or won shuffle lobbies (>=4 wins)?

[bright kraken]

yeah yknow what thats basically the same

[wheat jay]

this looks like the most useless shit xD

[bright kraken]

rounds

[urban skiff]

reddit

[urban skiff]

I think it's just for the memes

[wheat jay]

clearly xD

[magic wing]

2724 and you fell to 2200 ? Sheesh

Or is that all time record

[bright kraken]

all time record haha

[wheat jay]

nah vesa dropped 500cr

[bright kraken]

^

i am called 🪀 for a reason

[magic wing]

[wheat jay]

bro i love that daily +17mmr

XD

its so fucking broken ahhahahaha

[urban skiff]

I don't, I lose it all

every time there's a slight buildup i immediately go and lose it all

[wheat jay]

xD

[urban skiff]

i'm so close though

[wheat jay]

i love it when mage just flops

not kicked

not silenced

just stupid

[urban skiff]

I love it when I can kick mage frost school during go with ascendance

Just flop he gon

[wheat jay]

i hope htey remove vw from the game, cuz people suck

[urban skiff]

remove ww before vw

[magic wing]

I got 2275 and then started fucking around with ui and dropped 150 cr or something lol

[wheat jay]

xd

[magic wing]

Couldn’t even see my teammates dying on party frames lmao

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1tqt12d/charge_execute_state_of_mind/

which one of you guys is this?

Those are tattoos by the way

[fast rover]

Do we always apply rend with TC?

[sudden goblet]

I do

Some dudes dont even have rend bound

I dont rly understand it tbh

[solemn elm]

always

[solemn elm]

rounds won

[rustic wind]

Oof ok, lobbies won would be a grind

[solemn elm]

that would be garbage

just have to win rounds in ss

[rustic wind]

I mean I ain’t even 2300 yet lmao

2240 after yesterday

[solemn elm]

youre right there

[rustic wind]

I do feel your tips helped me

I use stuff more

[solemn elm]

good

[rustic wind]

Cc, intervene, make good use of fear and spear

[solemn elm]

yup

only up from here

[rustic wind]

@solemn elm hyd? Yesterday you seemed sadge

[solemn elm]

im ok just going by little by little and stuff and not trying to think so negatively and probably going to start getting gym membership again

[green anchor]

make a gif lol

[green anchor]

Legend is 0,1% of ladder at end of season

the 100 wins is a pennant toy

[rustic wind]

Good, gym is the best thing you can do for physical health, and one of the best for mental health as well

Lmk if you want a plan

Stay strong and chill ✨

Sleep well and eat healthy stuff

[green anchor]

i wake up with a pain in the neck and just ate like 5mil calories dinner

[magic wing]

And one of the worst things for mental health is WoW pvp so its balanced

[solemn elm]

lmao best thing for mental health is winning in 30 seconds

real shit though, ive been trying to just do other shit for a little bit before i play more wow

cause i need a break

im also silenced so i cant even talk

but i vowed to myself to just not abuse anymore substances like alcohol i messed up so bad the other night when i finished my wins i just had such a crap day

not only did i get my dumb ass self silenced the next day i broke my headset aswell as almost ruined my relationship cause i was annoyed i lost when i was sweating my ass off all game and losing a bunch

but my emotions were hardly in control cause i was so plastered

so i can only blame myself

i also didnt eat anything, so it just made it worse

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HJaf_ODXoAcb_KX.webp

[wheat jay]

Alcoholic flep?

[solemn elm]

yea

doesnt really help that my dad offers me but i just never know my limit because im really addicted to the feeling but its really bad

bad for business

[magic wing]

I never drink that shit

I just drink kratom instead lol

[wheat jay]

I mean, i cant relate cuz i dont drink alcohol

I drink vast amounts of energy drinks tho

[rustic wind]

Alcohol is bad for everything and there’s no safe amount. I grew up in a heavy drinking environment, it’s awful, the social pressure. My wife even more

2.5y ago we went sober and it’s the best decision in your life. Absolute zero alcohol since. More money saved, clear mind, peak sleep, better gym performance

One suggestion if you struggle quitting: replace it with other dopaminorgenic drink that is healthy. Eg I drink specialty coffee in the AM, and specialty cocoa in the PM

[magic wing]

Yeah same

[solemn elm]

thatd be better

i dont drink any coffee

[wheat jay]

See what worked for me was finding one i like the taste of

Blueberry tiger no sugar

Goated

[solemn elm]

and obviously energy drink op

i know that but it makes me feel like im on crack

[rustic wind]

Alcohol, even tiny amounts, make emotional regulation vastly compromised

[wheat jay]

Just dont drink

[solemn elm]

yea

[wheat jay]

Also why tf your father giving you alco?

[solemn elm]

i was talking about the energy drinks lol

and also its cause we bond over stuff and we just talk about things together, aswell as sometimes we work on things around the house and we just share

[rustic wind]

Specialty coffee is sth absolutely different to what you imagine when I say coffee

[wheat jay]

Man should be keeping you as far from it as possible no matter the age, unless its one beer on a weekend

[solemn elm]

but i hit it too hard

way too hard

giant gulps

[wheat jay]

Is your father a responsible normal human?

[rustic wind]

Even beer on a weekend is a nogo. Non alcoholic beer is peak tho, I drink that regularly

[solemn elm]

yea

[wheat jay]

Tell him that you feel like you should stop drinking

Altogether

[solemn elm]

i probably will

i was already deciding that the other day so

[wheat jay]

And if he's a normal human caring for his son, he'll tell you its okay and he'll even look for you

To make sure you dont drink

[solemn elm]

nah he respects the decision

[wheat jay]

Thats good, he'll keep an eye on it then

[wheat jay]

Ye i agree

I dont drink at all, cuz i dont like the taste

And i never rly felt drunk in my life no matter how much I had at once back when I was like 20

[urban skiff]

How often can i train vo2max stuff?

[wheat jay]

Granted ive only drank like 3 times in my life lol

[rustic wind]

I must admit, I love the taste of many, many alcohols. Almost all of em. If I could I’d just drink malt beer, mead, primitivo wine and rum all day

But it’s so awful for health and everything

That I just don’t

[solemn elm]

yea its def affecting me alot because i feel a giant dad gut coming and it makes me insanely insecure too

fucken hate that shit

looks so ugly

[rustic wind]

Alcohol off 🙂‍↔️
Gym on 💪
We’re here for you Flep

[solemn elm]

need to do alot of core and chest

[rustic wind]

Get strong in basic movement patterns: squat, deadlift, horizontal push/pull, vertical push/pull

This will build you best physique and health possible

[solemn elm]

aswell as lower body, and my arms bad

[rustic wind]

Lmk if you’d like a plan, I enjoy making em. Free ofc. It’s just what I enjoy (I am building a gym app too so needed to learn gym programming thoroughly)

[solemn elm]

yea ill probably ask for one tren was also offering one too im just shy n shit and i also sometimes never follow through but i want to this time i dont want to give up after trying for like 5 minutes

[rustic wind]

4x a year lmao, but want to do every 1-2 weeks on off season, and 2-3x a week during conditioning season

[rustic wind]

Don’t worry we are many shy here

I stared at my wife from distance for half a year, being afraid to talk to her, until luckily she talked to me and invited me to train together. I’d be single until now if that hadn’t happened

[solemn elm]

thats so sweet

ill be going with my partner too so i def will be learning aswell with her

[rustic wind]

My specialty are glute plans if you’re interested

[solemn elm]

i just want to work out everything and feel sore as shit and push myself as hard as i can

[wheat jay]

Goated wife

[deep stream]

gym

pog

[solemn elm]

its almost my birthday soon

[deep stream]

nice u can do legs with birthday cake

[solemn elm]

yes

[deep stream]

but if u need any gym help u can ask me or le mr oreqizer

[rustic wind]

And tren, he’s the biggest horsecock around I believe

[solemn elm]

yea all 3 of ya

[deep stream]

i do shit unorthodox

n it works

[rustic wind]

Example?

[deep stream]

used to train from last july till march high only

and i perma superset my workouts

my whole gym sched is superset

[rustic wind]

Supersets are good for antagonists (bis+tris, quads+hams) or unrelated muscles (calves+delts) but I avoid prescribing them to big compounds bcs then it just makes you too tired. I reserve for isolation or higher rep ranges

[urban skiff]

No such thing as on season for me anymore. Technically i'm not even allowed to just train normally at a gym with my test levels

[deep stream]

it started mostly for those

but then realized i can also do it for chest n back supersets

n it worksout

but ofc wont superset big compound lifts like deadlift

[urban skiff]

On a side note. What is the best way to make the absolutely worst first time impression on people in this gym?
I was thinking about finding a way to use safety squat bar for deadlifts, in the dumbbell section

SSB, not trap bar. they dont have a trap bar here.

[rustic wind]

Ox lift

You grab all the attention and people will think you’re just a dumb showoff

Make ox 🐂 sounds doing it for extra efficacy

[magic wing]

You Pilav’s brother ? loool

[solemn elm]

my god how the top one just the two weights alone is like me on both sides bro could just lift me like he’s hercules

i like the ox sounds

[urban skiff]

I can ask them to get a trap bar, then add that in by strapping it to bottom bar

[wet pollen]

Is there an addon that can make totems show but not other minions?

[urban skiff]

No, it's part of shaman kit to not have their totems be easy to pinpoint for anyone

May as well ask if there's an addon that tells you if there's a rogue in stealth nearby 🫠

[wet pollen]

Aight works for me as long as nobody else has that advantage

[split lichen]

when you guys are vsing a bunch of ranged. we just have to play pillar?

going slayer seems so good but also so squishy so I prefer to stay colossus but if you guys think I should learn to play slayer against those teams I will try

[copper fox]

Nooooooo

You stick to one of them like it’s your job

You do nothing at a pillar

[split lichen]

I see

Man

Seems so hard to stick and survive when its hunters and mages

[copper fox]

2 range is easier to stick to than like 1 range + a rogue, warr or feral for example

[split lichen]

I think its my lack of skill. But I love seeing a rogue or warrior lol. Because I feel confident in my abilities against them. But that might be because I know the warrior class well. And I know nothing of the other classes

[rustic wind]

Sounds like a badminton tournament prep day 1

[copper fox]

Range classes have a hard time peeling for other range classes but rogues etc can peel ofc

[split lichen]

Is there a resource that tells me all the big cooldowns of other classes?

I think I am hitting a knowledge gap of cooldowns maybe

And abilities

I can only zug so far

[rustic wind]

MiniCC read settings

[copper fox]

You can just Google that, pretty sure like iceyveins has it

[split lichen]

Holy peak

[deep stream]

highly recommend the icyveins thing tho

to get basic understanding of other class/specs burst is like

example u can see deathmark in minicc

which is assa's 2min cd

[split lichen]

Okay cool. I will check that out

I love that actually

I see buffs on them and have no idea if thats a def spell or offensive spell lol

Ty ty

I am looking at minicc, and it says shield wall for us warriors. And I assume thats prot. But I see shield block as well.
Can we still change to sword and shield to use shield block and then swap back?

[deep stream]

ye for tank

u can change but i think buff is gone without the shield

cuz u cant block without one

[split lichen]

hmm

so no to swapping to sword and shield mid night to activate shield block and then back to 2 handers?

[deep stream]

dont think anyone is

but who knows

[copper fox]

Never

[split lichen]

ah is it because its arenas and no swaps are allowed?

[magic wing]

That is a classic wow tactic

[deep stream]

think its just useless

[copper fox]

No it’s because it won’t save you and the second you lose pressure you lose

[split lichen]

Ah makes sense

But I feel like I have come back with good combos with teammates when we were down a leg

Understandable though

[solemn elm]

never do that shit, kill them before they kill you

[rustic wind]

Yea some classes are setup based, like rogue or feral or enha, and they can reset. But warrs, unholy dks etc need constant pressure

[solemn elm]

the minute that you run away like that you throw away all of your momentum out the window

it’s absolutely atrocious to do

attack them, kill them

[magic wing]

Bruh some comps you have to

Or these shuffle healers suck

[solemn elm]

u need to cross cc the other guy more with bolt so you can actually exist

[rustic wind]

Look at our toolkit—tons of “stack this to have dmg”. You lose stacks = you’re useless for the next minute

[solemn elm]

have to cross way more use fear more defensively even on one singular dps

make it 3v1 if you get a dub fear

never the move to run away

if you run away you throw so hard

your entire job is to be in there and kill them and use your utility

doing nothing and yerkin it puts you behind asf

[magic wing]

I have a feel for classes like ret, ww monk etc

[solemn elm]

especially in shuff where the dampening gets so high so fast

[magic wing]

And shamans are easy cuz they do the sound lol

But something like hunter I know nothing about

[solemn elm]

that’s fine

bm hunter you know you’re about to get absolutely cancered on when you see the pets turn red

that’s beastial wrath

[magic wing]

They just run around spam damage to me and press turtle

[rustic wind]

Teeth on BM = scary
Arrow feathers on MM = scary

[solemn elm]

when arrow feather show up

instantly disarm

as soooon as you can

has to be 0.1

[deep stream]

disarm stun fear

[solemn elm]

if they trinket? stun right out

or fear whatever you feel is friskier

but don’t break the fear either

[rustic wind]

Do dots break fear or just bashing?

[solemn elm]

need to shut them down immediately

[copper fox]

Dots won’t break your fear

[solemn elm]

bashing breaks it

[magic wing]

Yeah Ive never paid attention to hunters cuz they always sucked

But now they do big damage

At this rating

[solemn elm]

oh man you wish hunter was bad you should have played last season

and that’s just gonna be how it is most of the time it’s just about how you shut down damage and the enemy and how much aggression you can apply

[magic wing]

I got burned through 2 walls by hunter/ele lol

[deep stream]

dk having 25% phys red for 4 secs on deathstrike is wild

[solemn elm]

go hunter but spam bolt fear ele so you can chill

[split lichen]

sorry if this sounds dumb. Its worth committing that much? I do know hunters chew through ass but is def stance and retaliation not enough to survive?

[deep stream]

they just perma walling

need to disarm to kill

[graceful smelt]

Doesn’t matter which specc is bad. Good specs will always be played most cause ppl hate sticking to something they like and just go with flavor of the month/season

[solemn elm]

you have to disarm hunters if it’s marksmanship but if it’s bm try to camp d stance and get as many rends out as possible so you can be tankier

if they’re on you especially just always try to weave in and out of it as much as you can

i shockwave the pets with rumbling earth too helps out a tiny bit

[graceful smelt]

Yeah BM you gotta kite wrath, keep bleeds up on pets and if necessary peel bestial wrath goes with Speer

[deep stream]

even fearing them helps

[magic wing]

I need some turbo autismo warrir video where he explains every single combination possible in ss and what to do lool

[deep stream]

fkn ugly pets

[rustic wind]

And sweeping strikes on all the time

[split lichen]

is that the talent that if it hits 3 or more its a reduced cd?

[rustic wind]

Kills pets eventually

[split lichen]

and that works on pets?

[solemn elm]

you kill the pets passively with your cleave

and yeah

it does

[deep stream]

yes works on pets

its bis vs them

[split lichen]

oh thats hella good

[solemn elm]

mhm mhm

[split lichen]

I should swap talents if there is a BM then

[deep stream]

u can also stun demos pets

they tyrant or someshit

[rustic wind]

Take the thing that makes sweeping strikes do 100% normal damage

[solemn elm]

should always swap talents no matter what based on what you’re fighting

that’s #1

[graceful smelt]

Watch Lardos, he is commentating his Shuffle Games really well and often mentions why he does something in that moment, he is also very talkative with Chat and answers all questions

[solemn elm]

you go up like 200+ points doing that

[deep stream]

also get the arena enemy pet taunt macro

into ur MS

so u perma cleave

[solemn elm]

i gotta drop that macro

[split lichen]

I have been wondering this. I have been trying to swap talents to add shattering throw to my kit as well. How do yall feel about shattering throw. I see some people dont put the point in and some people do

[solemn elm]

for the family here

[deep stream]

n taunt his pet

id link it but cba logging

[solemn elm]

i am always shatter into mages and paladins

[graceful smelt]

Also Colo>Slayer against BM

[rustic wind]

Yea Claude Opus 4.7 told me that tidbit

[solemn elm]

there’s never not a moment where i can get it off

[deep stream]

nah slayer also good

i kill more hunters with slayer

than colo

[split lichen]

what talent do you trade off

[solemn elm]

you can have more uptime with them yea

[deep stream]

colo just tankier

and rng hit demo

if they dont feint

i mean feign

[solemn elm]

rumbling earth since you wouldn’t be getting value if you’re fighting something more single target oriented

[rustic wind]

They can’t feign storm bolt no?

[solemn elm]

no

that ain’t how that works

[graceful smelt]

Depends on the rest of the team with BM but Colo is way superior for cleave and in some goes you can snipe pets and they have to get a revive pet of where you can take the upper hand with pressure

[magic wing]

Demo to kill hunters is really nice

[deep stream]

u can cleave even on slayer

[magic wing]

Once you chew through turtle

[solemn elm]

i destroy hunters as colossus or slayer so either one is just fine

[deep stream]

i just find it easier to have uptime on slayer

[rustic wind]

Demo does weeb wounds on all, coupled with SS and rend it’s big aoe on pets

And aoe bleed = big heal

[solemn elm]

weeb wounds

[deep stream]

rather than jack of in middle

[graceful smelt]

You can yes, but demo dmg is way higher than slayer in AoE/Multi Targets. Slayer is sustain dmg when you have one Prio target and spread enemies

[deep stream]

im hunting a hunter usually not being kill target myself

so not much to cleave

[split lichen]

okay something must be wrong with my talents what would you take off to put into shattering or rumbling earth.

[solemn elm]

just depends tbh if it’s some lame shit like jungle they’ll prolly go you and you suffer so probably alright to be colossus then

[split lichen]

Is it second wind?

[graceful smelt]

I see that but peel and aoe dmg on pets is often a big win condition for your mates aswell

[solemn elm]

but if i’m playing like warrior mage

i’m 100% slayer to crush hunter all game solo

[solemn elm]

yea second wind some ass

get that shit outta here

[split lichen]

wait really?

[deep stream]

ye we playing warrior devastation pres

[graceful smelt]

Second wind or bandage if you are not the target.

[deep stream]

they going on dev most likely

[solemn elm]

bandage op second wind can go

[graceful smelt]

Bandage > second Wind

[solemn elm]

bandage= more healing from friend= more healing from friend die less

[copper fox]

If you touch a hunter with 2 globals they’re at 60%

They die so easily

[graceful smelt]

Also the Range + on TC can go in some matches aswell but I would keep that on BM matches

[solemn elm]

basically

[deep stream]

slayer blade storm into stormbolt

shredding hunters

[solemn elm]

unless it’s like cupid slop i fought some hunter whispering me after and it was like a solid 9 minute game of nothing

the hunter was the most unkillable person yet

pres evoker making sure the health bar refuses to even mean

[split lichen]

so is this just from the other talent that heals us when we dip below 35%

[graceful smelt]

Turbo against BM is nice sometimes with slayer, throw Speer, blade into him and mate ascends his ass to heavens gate

[split lichen]

Damn wait that does make sense

[solemn elm]

ye

it does fuck all

[solemn elm]

that second wind on the tree on the left there is pure piss i don’t think i’ve used it once

[split lichen]

I mean it doesnt sound bad tho

2% hp for 1 second

[solemn elm]

you have to take 0 damage for 6 seconds for it to actually do anything important

[graceful smelt]

And the biggest heal only goes off if you are not taking damage for 5 seconds or more which rarely happens in fast pace setups

[solemn elm]

and that’s not gonna happen

like ever

[split lichen]

Wait the 2% is during combat I thought

[solemn elm]

that’s when you’re 35% or lower

[split lichen]

and its 6% out of combat

[solemn elm]

and even then it does literally zero healing anyways