pvp

[wheat jay]

thats how you live

mobility

like, most rogues collapse hard as fuck

[rustic wind]

one thing in their favour is they're slippery basterds. can't count how many times a rogue lived <1% hp by running a pillar ad infinitum

[chilly totem]

and i hope the char i tracked is not your main cause we're talking about a guy that has done x1 boosted +19 and thats it. 3k incel xD. Why bother ''arguing'' inhere when you cant pve nor pvp dude?

[fierce elm]

lmfao

when do you not become a 3k incel

(I also feel like if that is your thing to bring up then there should be a link to your own character too)

[wheat jay]

Demonartji

[cunning roost]

Guys I have a question on stats for fury, I have been pumping up to 2400 as fury with arms gear ( 16 % haste / 22 % mastery / 25 % vers, outside pvp) I see most top fury´s has around 30% mastery and much lower haste and a bit lower vers. Would it be worth for me to change my stats or should i keep going until it doesn´t work?

[wheat jay]

now, send yours

so we can compare our internetdicks

[chilly totem]

hey, i didnt say im pushing 20's when i barelly do my weekly vault mate. Nor i smartarsed typed shit to others.

[fierce elm]

Hell no dont back out

[wheat jay]

xD

[fierce elm]

If you bring up another guy, call him a 3k incel, then there has to be some backup here

I also feel like the argument for ”its too sweaty” doesnt quite work if you arent there either

[wheat jay]

man's probably checking my main now

[fierce elm]

Or naming it ”pointless”

Competing in the olympics is pointless to me but I have also never did it nor can comment on it

[wheat jay]

speaking of olympics arent we getting the big boy enhanced olympics soon?

the one theyre allowing people to use ALL the steroids?

[cunning roost]

Yes we are!"

Going to be really interesting

[wheat jay]

that's gonna be fucking lit ye

i've seen some pics of the swimmer

mans gotfucking wings i swear

back wider than the pool

human stingray xD

[cunning roost]

There already was some enhanced event and he broke the world record on one or more distances right?

[wheat jay]

i think so ye

[fierce elm]

Olympics are enhanced events

[wheat jay]

but man having it all official will be so nice

[fierce elm]

but yeah

[cunning roost]

But in most sports they didn´t break the records, what does that mean exactly.. 😁

[wheat jay]

ye but they have testing so they cant be enhanced all the time

whereas this time we're getting FULL on enhanced

its basically powerlifting vs world strongest man

[fierce elm]

Hey buddy @chilly totem where that character at

Dont leave this conversation pal

[cunning roost]

Hafthor failed his world record on deadlift

[wheat jay]

didnt he do 510 already?

[cunning roost]

yeah he had the previous record as well but he tried to raise the bar so to speak 😄

[wheat jay]

he gone brother

you gotta let him go, he ain't coming back

[cunning roost]

he tried for 515 kg and failed

[wheat jay]

damn

[fierce elm]

I believe in him to take accountability for calling someone 3k incel

[wheat jay]

he won't

he disagreed, didnt like the how the convo went and started going for personal insults

it is what it is

especially since he even misunderstood the convo and my comment about someone not knowing how m+ works

it was to oreqrizer

[rustic wind]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1229858/consistent-cogwheel can I use this on any bracers or only engineering ones?

[wheat jay]

those are for the engi ones

the special thingy

you can craft them for pvp tho

[magic wing]

3k incel hahahaha

[wheat jay]

should we make that new meme?

3k incel for pve and something like rival incel for pvp?

[urban skiff]

cogs are for engineering only. missives are for the restof crafting

[urban skiff]

It means the actual professional athletes with the skills to win aren't going to risk their status as unenhanced athletes (as well as their health) just to go support a trump jr sponsored event.

So it's just washed up losers and a few people who didn't recognize the rewards from participating doesn't outweigh the risks to health/reputation who participated

[wheat jay]

status as unenhanced athlete is a joke nowadayas

[green anchor]

Zercher the enhancement athlete

[urban skiff]

Enchantment

[wheat jay]

like, everyone is cheating in any way they can while trying to avoid breaking rules hard enough to get penalized

[urban skiff]

I'm just enchanting tbh

[wheat jay]

didnt islam makhachev have a tiny little scandal cuz he used IV bags to rehydrate before the fight?

[green anchor]

i also have ench

[urban skiff]

Absolutely true, but you don't get sponsorships if you become "the drug using winner" in the people's eyes

[green anchor]

0 work orders seen since dragonflight

[wheat jay]

lmao every ufc athelete

[urban skiff]

If you don't attempt to keep the lies, you're out

[wheat jay]

most of athletes in most sports

[urban skiff]

ufc is just wrestling for dumber people

The ones who didn't understand wrestling was drama club with pretend fighting and actual athleticism

[wheat jay]

wrestling is only part of ufc tho

ufc had wrestling olympic medalists

so its wrestling + standup

[wheat jay]

wasnt DC a silver medalist?

[urban skiff]

Wrong wrestling

[wheat jay]

oh you meant wwe...

[urban skiff]

yea

[wheat jay]

funny thing

there was some wwe guy trying to fight in ufc

[urban skiff]

Not olympic wrestling

[wheat jay]

he got fucked up in 1st round

[urban skiff]

Yea, like I said. UFC is for the tryhards who missed like a 105 different social cues and then went and took the shit all too seriously

[wheat jay]

xD

lmao

[urban skiff]

UFC is the guy who shows up to a guys' night out at the paintball range with full camo and his own juiced up paintball gun

[wheat jay]

well, yes

[rustic wind]

Drugs are crap and I wish people would stay natty, but the athletes are absolute units nonetheless

[urban skiff]

I'm on test and I've been getting stronger sitting on my ass

Straight up

[lavish quest]

Artji, the 3k incel

What a man

[urban skiff]

I took a year long break from leg work some years ago and when i started up again my squat had increased like 40kg

from 130 to 170

[wheat jay]

[wheat jay]

ye but youre like 50yr old

so its fine for you to be on test

[rustic wind]

Why are you on test? TRT bcs age?

[fierce elm]

True title

I cant believe he left

[fierce elm]

He has one ball or no balls

I cant remember

[rustic wind]

Dose makes the poison. You don’t get 40kg on a squat on TRT doses

[wheat jay]

zerch or Dze?

[urban skiff]

Bro I ain't got no nuts

[fierce elm]

Zercher

[wheat jay]

oh

[fierce elm]

He had cancer(?)

[wheat jay]

really?

[fierce elm]

bro doesnt keep up

[wheat jay]

he got natural vasectomy?

[urban skiff]

Yea, i turn 40 next month

[fierce elm]

jesus

[urban skiff]

Or the month after tbh

[fierce elm]

I turn 29 in 2 months baby

[wheat jay]

fucking hell man, you old

[wheat jay]

same lmao

bro we old

[urban skiff]

you're almost as old as my wife

[fierce elm]

Prime time

Is she looking for a husband

[wheat jay]

husbands*?

[fierce elm]

asking for a friend

[wheat jay]

asking for a friend too

[urban skiff]

Thought you had a wife in waiting

[rustic wind]

Ohhhh

[fierce elm]

I do

[rustic wind]

Sry lack of context

[wheat jay]

Afro is swedish, their sharia law allows for many wives

[fierce elm]

But she doesnt play WoW

[urban skiff]

Actually yea, the cut one nut out and then radiated the other to hell

[urban skiff]

she's young, she can get better

[wheat jay]

rip

well, as long as theyre still functional

[urban skiff]

Lucky i had some zercher juice in the ol' cooler so only only cost like 25-30k euros to make 2 kids

[wheat jay]

maybe canonballs dont have any gunpowder in, but as long as the cannon itself is working youre still good

[wheat jay]

bigbrain

[urban skiff]

Nah, I produce too much FS FSH LH as result of the treatment, so they give me test to drop the production of those other hormones.

[wheat jay]

i have no idea what those are

but i get the idea behind it

[urban skiff]

some female hormones that shared production signal with testosterone, basically

[wheat jay]

ye thats what i was thinking about, they give you test cuz you dont produce enough naturally to counteract your body producing fs fsh lh

[urban skiff]

Body says "we need more testosterone", they send signal to factory. Factory can only increase total production, but productionline no longer includes testosterone but the signals still increase the rest

[wheat jay]

yeeee

[urban skiff]

The body's kinda dumb tbh

But yea

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm i found some character called Dzedoo

[urban skiff]

Still got a nut left though, that's why they call me Einstein

[wheat jay]

if its him, he's a rival incel

paladin

even worse

[urban skiff]

how do I become incel

[wheat jay]

you have wife, you cant

[urban skiff]

boo

[wheat jay]

and kids

[magic wing]

Same age

[wheat jay]

we're all 29 lmao

[magic wing]

Fucking boomer

[wheat jay]

we're all 29 meanwhile zerhcer is a grandpa age

man's body is falling apart

turning to dust as we speak

[urban skiff]

I'm ya'll's daddy

I don't mind

Let me adopt you

[magic wing]

Hes turning into rival incel

[wheat jay]

i dont have a dad, you wanna apply for the position?

[urban skiff]

I don't need to apply

You're already like a son to me

[wheat jay]

[urban skiff]

Now hold that flashlight steady or so help me your mother will have to pull your meat out of the radiator and your bones out of the gas tank

That's just a joke, I would never foster an unkind learning environment. You're doing fine, son

We're so proud of you

[cunning roost]

Or that all olympic athletes were enhanced all along. No way you can out perform a guy who is blasting every single steroid and enhancement by "having great genetics" 😂

[wheat jay]

bro i have a brother who's a car freak

and a mechanic...

ive plenty of practice in that field lmao

[urban skiff]

the olympics is genetics x steroids x skill

[cunning roost]

yes agree!

[urban skiff]

These guys missing the skill part, or they wouldn't be showing up at the enhanced games as enhanced

[urban skiff]

Oh nice, I'm a mechanic as well

and a machinist

[cunning roost]

Alright, I have no idea about who the guys showing up or but then we are on the same page

[wheat jay]

well, he was

[urban skiff]

I don't do that anymore either

[wheat jay]

now he's working at testing chambers for turbochargers and engines

[urban skiff]

Marine engineering here, then project manager.

I gotta protect my guys working for me

So now gimme more leadership position, so I can secure everyone's safety and happiness

[wheat jay]

lmao im kinda weird cuz i used to do financial audits, then selling tvs and shit

now its insurances

[rustic wind]

I am 33 this year but have very youthful genetics. Zoomers think I am one of em

[wheat jay]

i have old man genetics

hair greying out since i was 17...

[rustic wind]

Do you look like your drawing?

[wheat jay]

lmao

@fierce elm do I?

[urban skiff]

Full set of hair here, like a thick mane. If it hadn't finally started greying a bit now in my late 30s I would still be passing as late 20s

[wheat jay]

to some degree i think I do

[rustic wind]

Even the chinnity chinny chin?

And thicc neck flexors?

And traps

[rustic wind]

Viking genes

[urban skiff]

Yea that's it

and also lots of milk

[wheat jay]

not as much

[rustic wind]

Cow milk is so underrated

[wheat jay]

but ye i do have thick neck and big traps lmao

[rustic wind]

GOMAD from happy cows is peak nutrition

[wheat jay]

every muscle thats trained with dumbells is big on me xD

so traps, shoulders, biceps triceps

forearms

cuz dumbells is all i had for years at home

[rustic wind]

That’s…..all of them??

[wheat jay]

well, you dont rly train legs hard with 20kg dumbells

[rustic wind]

Skill issue

[wheat jay]

but you can do dumbell raises with 20kgs

[urban skiff]

depends on how many 20kg dumbbells you use at the same time

[rustic wind]

Reverse Nordics, Nordic curls, Bulgarian Split squats

[wheat jay]

lmao

ye i wasnt that creative

my legs are mostly from martial arts

[rustic wind]

So nonexistent

[urban skiff]

Just grab your wife and start zercher squatting

[wheat jay]

quite the contrary

i have very big legs

[rustic wind]

Zercher anything is awesome

[wheat jay]

and big ass calves

[rustic wind]

Not from martial arts then

[wheat jay]

well, if youre a fat boy doing kicks for hours a day

[urban skiff]

I never bothered going higher than 150 zercher squats

[rustic wind]

Look at Gina Carano and Rhonda Rousey. Pancake asses

[wheat jay]

your leg muscles tend to have some muscles built on them

[urban skiff]

might have poked above to like 160 170 like once or twice

[wheat jay]

skipping rope + calf raises on stairs daily too

those pumped my calves to fucking heaven man

[urban skiff]

Backing off of training legs was one of the great decisions i made. Not being able to find comfortable pants was so painful when working an office job that don't permit shorts of any kind,.

[lavish quest]

Zercher excluded from our exclusive club

[wheat jay]

also big issue i had is i had spine issues

so i couldnt lift heavy

for years

[rustic wind]

That’s good 👍 tho martial arts really don’t favour big legs. Maybe calves to some extent

[rustic wind]

Have you tried Zercher Jefferson curls?

[wheat jay]

see, i trained traditional ones, so while we did mostly sparring and stuff like that

we also trained some old school shit

[urban skiff]

Ii love that shit

can't do it in my home gym though

[wheat jay]

and thats for example standing for hours in a rider stance

that is HELL

pure HELL

so, legs somewhat wide, and you squat down

and you hold that

[rustic wind]

Did 100kg x 6 last block I had em and they just feel soooo goood on the spine

[urban skiff]

I finally joined a gym after 6-7 years so right now it's all about maxing out my VO2Max before I work another muscle

Except heavy ass rows

kroc rows are the best, shame their dumbbells stop at 44

[rustic wind]

Meadows rows. Practically infinite scaling

[urban skiff]

My old gym had dumbbells go up to 70, that was neat

[wheat jay]

is that for spine?

[urban skiff]

You put that down somewhere for fun and watch the kids try to move it and just.. Not being able to budge it at all

[wheat jay]

brother that would literally cripple me few years back

it would put me in the wheelchair xD

[urban skiff]

I might try it, the gym has a landmine attachment.

[wheat jay]

so, my issue was that i had put too much strain on my spine for years, while having genetic defect not having the natural curvature of the spine at the lower section

[rustic wind]

Yes. Nothing’s more for spine than Zercher Jefferson curls

[wheat jay]

instead of being curved in whats called double S i believe for spine

[rustic wind]

Yea I have the same thing, flat lumbar

[wheat jay]

my lower back was a straight line

took years of training it to have it somewaht fixed

[urban skiff]

My spine sucks, i'm at the "sneeze while throwing the wife around and back gets stuck for a week" age.

[wheat jay]

and while it isnt technically fixed

my spine is now surrounded by muscle mass

[rustic wind]

Embracing lumbar flexion was the best decision of my life

[wheat jay]

?

elaborate

[urban skiff]

I want to get into jefferson curls but I need something as a precursor to build confidence and ensure all the baseline strength and mobility requirements are there

[green wharf]

talking about fix, arms still have sound effects bugged for orcs

gonna be 2 months

[urban skiff]

play enhancement instead

[urban skiff]

way better spec

[wheat jay]

go away syeg we're talking about good shit now

not wow

[green wharf]

PepeWTF

[wheat jay]

0 issues with the back when you dont have the natural curve there?

cuz mine resulted in me almost having my discs thrown out

[urban skiff]

rogue gear

my stuff's from strengthshop in germany

[wheat jay]

and one time when i overtrained with too much pressure on my spine i couldnt walk properly for like a week or so

[green wharf]

that look like it would fuck up your back

[rustic wind]

The contrary

[wheat jay]

i remember i once went for a walk and had to stop after 10min

[rustic wind]

The contrary

[wheat jay]

but that was years ago

[rustic wind]

Just start light

I started at empty bar

[wheat jay]

id need to get flexible again first htats for sure

[rustic wind]

This will make you flexible and jacked

[urban skiff]

One time i messed my back up pulling a 10kg off the bar after 180kg deadlifts and had to roll off the bed after sorta recovering and then crawl out the door and slide down the stairs on my back just to get to the next floor

[wheat jay]

yep

like, i can understand and do every exercise

but when its my spine im always worried

and flexibility was never my big problem, i remember doign splits as a fat 18yr old

[urban skiff]

The body is so fucking stupid that way. Lift massive weight? Fine.

Hold what amounts to a couple of pitchers of milk wrong and you get an evite to snapcity

[rustic wind]

Also these super deep trap bar deadlifts

[wheat jay]

bro my back hurts from watching that

[green wharf]

why dont you do yoga

VerySmug

[wheat jay]

yoga wack

[wheat jay]

i never liked slow training flexibility

[green wharf]

do you know about crossfit artji

[rustic wind]

The only reason to do yoga is if you enjoy yoga. But if not, it’s inefficient at achieving a certain physical quality

[wheat jay]

gae

when stretching i always did it hard way

snappy

[green wharf]

i fucking hate the fuckers who crossfit

[wheat jay]

like, force my weight on myself when doing splits

to go deeper xD

[urban skiff]

@rustic wind Is there a purpose to doing that with your neck?

[rustic wind]

No but it’s an illusion. My head has a cone shape, it’s not that bent. It’s just a reflex as I wanna look forward

[urban skiff]

No shade, i have no idea how the exercise is supposed to feel

[wheat jay]

an illussion, what are you hiding

[urban skiff]

AN ILLUSION

[wheat jay]

something's not quite right

man i miss suramar 🙁

best zone

best questlines

best raid

[urban skiff]

that colour difference

[wheat jay]

lmao

[urban skiff]

bro pooling all the blood in his arms

[rustic wind]

Got to 167.5kg for 5 on these, my erectors never grew so quickly

[rustic wind]

Jefferson curls are day 0 ready. Just start light on em. You’ll get confidence and mobility

Start with 2.5kg dumbbells, add 2.5kg every day. When at 2x10kg, switch to Zercher Jeffersons with a barbell

[urban skiff]

I'm not sure I could even do them with negative weights

[rustic wind]

And if they’re scary, do partial RoM and slowly at first, and add weight after you do full RoM

[rustic wind]

Can you pick stuff up from ground?

[urban skiff]

Yea, but kneeling

Or by turning it into a RDL I guess

[rustic wind]

Dude you squat 20% more than me, I think you’re fine. Just start light and slow

[fierce elm]

no

[rustic wind]

I violate people by picking stuff up with bent spine

[wheat jay]

Liar fuck you

[urban skiff]

What's going to happen is I go empty handed for a week. Then I go empty bar for a week. Then I go 40kg for a week. Then I go 100kg for a week. Somewhere in between I forget to brace when I sneeze and blow my asshole out my nose

I'm the most patient impatient man in the world

[rustic wind]

Do max 2.5kg increments, and leave a day in between sessions, so max 3-4x/wk

You’re almost 40 and have kids, don’t tell me you lack patience

[urban skiff]

I usually train 1x every 10 days

[rancid granite]

what a slick garage setup

home gyms op

[urban skiff]

But then I joined a gym and now I try to go every 3 days

Ooooh I'm having bloodwork done today, gonna be fun to see if there's anything interestingf

[rustic wind]

So keep it 2.5kg a sesh, you’ll do cca 5kg/week. In 5 months you’ll be at 100kg ✨

[urban skiff]

I'm 40 soon, I perpetually expect to live only 3 months more from the moment I wake up

😄

[rustic wind]

Zercher Jeffersons will change that

[urban skiff]

I feel like getting some cardio work in will do a lot more to make me feel like I'm not a shambling corpse

my doctor's only been begging me to do cardio for the last 10(?) years now

[rustic wind]

Weighted walks are BiS

20-40kg extra

Plus some VO2max stuff once a week

[urban skiff]

I already weigh 100kg

[rustic wind]

I am 103kg but walking at 143kg just hits different

[urban skiff]

I do HIIT on the ERG row thingymajingy

gone from 1400 meters in 9 minutes to 2600 meters in 12 minutes, and also upped intervals from 30s to 60s sprints

[rustic wind]

That’s good VO2max 👍

[urban skiff]

yeah that's in 2 weeks

from completely sedentary lifestyle with a big of big lifts once a week / every 10day

[rustic wind]

Atm I do 45min morning walks with my younger son on my back, but nothing more intense bcs I am dieting, and intense cardio fucks up my recovery and skyrockets appetite

[magic wing]

Wouldnt want a home gym tbh

Its motivating to see other ppl

[rustic wind]

It’s a need more than a want. With a newborn and a fulltime job, the only times I could train were at 9pm when he was asleep and chores and work were done

And I had 30’ a day

[magic wing]

Yeah understandable

[rustic wind]

Even now, I train when my toddler falls asleep during noon and have lunch break at work

(I work from home)

We wanna go to public gyms with wife again when both kids go to school/kindergarten

[rancid granite]

just get your wife to walk around in tight clothing and berate you for staring

replicate a real gym

[rustic wind]

Man you’re cooking

[lavish quest]

[elfin surge]

@lavish quest

[lavish quest]

Yes my son?

[elfin surge]

❓

[rancid granite]

is that 5% extra vers better dam too or is it all defense

[lavish quest]

Vers is 1% = 1% dam 0.5% DR

[deep stream]

how u got lot less haste

[lavish quest]

Idk man, I don't hack or somethin?

[deep stream]

[magic wing]

Is every warrior pvper in existence a gymbro ?

[deep stream]

yes

bigger muscles more damage

[rancid granite]

yes

[lavish quest]

Ya just gotta lift a weight once a month to fulfill the metric

[lavish bolt]

On a scale of 1-10 how hard is it to reach 2100 for the weapon mogs

[copper fox]

1

[lavish quest]

Hard to answer that. For some 10. For others 0.5

[copper fox]

1

[lavish quest]

@scarlet trout

[deep stream]

[lavish bolt]

Ahhhh makes sense, honestly ima try if it’s too much I’ll buy a carry lmao

[deep stream]

try shuffle or blitz

[lavish quest]

If you genuinely try to learn, improve, all that. You should be able to do it in blitz without the biggest hassle

[rancid granite]

blitz would be pretty ez pz

[lavish bolt]

Ok bet should I see people doing 2pc set instead of 4pc. With about 15% haste an mastery is this right

For col arms

[rustic wind]

Howbow Gladiator?

[deep stream]

try 20% haste

or 18 to be fair

15 is kinda low

rest as much vers

[lavish bolt]

Bet

[deep stream]

28-29 vers

[lavish bolt]

Bet

[magic wing]

Blitz is 1

Shuffle prolly like 3

But all depends

[magic wing]

Seen some guy with 500 rounds and 1750

[lavish bolt]

Not gonna lie I got 8 rounds played with 2 wins right now lol

[cunning roost]

Sorry for asking again but, question on fury stats for pvp. I managed to get to 2400 as fury with arms stats (high haste low ish mast and high vers) Would it be much beneficial for me to swap to heavy mastery, even sacrificing some vers for it?

Or is haste not too bad for fury either?

Current stats: 16 haste, 22 mast 25 vers (outside pvp)

[rancid granite]

never apologize

[lavish quest]

I think the general suggestion was mastery, but I know @copper fox was cooking up some haste focused fury

[cunning roost]

Interesting, maybe it´s not too bad then!

[lavish quest]

May use slightly different talents. You probably swap which enrage. Idk

[cunning roost]

Yeah also thought about that, at the same time i don´t want to ruin a (so far) winning concept

Another question, is it a thing to "sit on rating" like if you get a certain rating, it can benefit you if you just sit on it and not risk losing it?

heard someone talk about that and was wondering why

[green wharf]

to me its the opposite, i have the worst luck on blitz

tried to do a bit of blitz on my dk to get the upgrade gear thing, after 3 succetive wins i lost 10 games in a row

[rancid granite]

on my warr i got 2100 sooooo easy, on my rogue im a bit stuck 1600 lol

so it's worth a shot at least

[lavish quest]

Everyone's MMR passively goes up as the season progresses. So you can sit on your rating for a time, so when you next queue your MMR will be an increased amount. This results in increased gains/minimized losses till you lose or catch up to that MMR.

Do you know how CR/MMR works?

[green wharf]

it was so bad i was under 900k on blitz

of mmr

then i played a bit more and i think im 1200-1400 i dunno

i just went shuffle, won all games

got the set

[cunning roost]

To be honest i never understood how it works exactly. Can i see my mmr outside of playing a game?

[lavish quest]

Not really. There are addons that "record" it when you play a match. Then you can look at it outside of the match afterwards. But still requires you to at least play one match so it can record it

[cunning roost]

Alright, so it´s good to have a higher mmr than CR?

[lavish quest]

Yes

But MMR goes up as you win too

[cunning roost]

My latest games were 5-1 , 5-1 so that should have elevated my mmr?

[lavish quest]

Yes, a good amount too

4-2 is considered a win and will raise your MMR

[cunning roost]

But that also means i will be facing a lot higher players right?

[lavish quest]

Yes

[cunning roost]

but not lose too much rating if i lose?

[lavish quest]

If the difference between your CR and MMR are great enough, you could lose nothing

If say your rating was 1800, but your MMR was 2100. You could lose a few matches before your actual rating is changed

But you'll lose MMR like crazy lol

MMR is what realistically ends up determining your rating in the long run. MMR is the "hidden" rating that it also more volatile. CR is always "following" your MMR trying to get to where it is

[copper fox]

I like 20% haste on fury as well but I ran high mast for a while and it was fine too

[green anchor]

CHONKQUEST

[obsidian escarp]

What’s best for PvP mt or slayer for fury? Or just preference

[rancid granite]

I've had it explained to me plenty and I still maintain the mindset it just gets in the way thinking about it... just keep playing and improving and you climb

[latent fossil]

Aatos

[rancid granite]

Sseb

https://tenor.com/view/on-gang-cat-orange-cat-cute-yuanbao-gif-17083873509693629378

[cunning roost]

Yeah sounds like a healthy mindset

How am I supposed to use the pvp talent berserker roar? Do I use it if i get feared or save it to "predict" cc on my healer and use it before that?

[latent fossil]

You can do both tbh

[worldly oriole]

I Identify As Theyre Them

[latent fossil]

No

You’re buff mac chicken

[elfin surge]

thane

but better answer, arms.

[worldly oriole]

LETZ go bro

just 6-0 on second dh

LMFAO, the lock lagged out and i got 4 rounds against him, he was a target dummy like 2x

somehow won with him on my team

too

[green wharf]

go to work
classes are cancelled
go back home

wasted 3 hours and 40 bucks

madgecig

[lavish quest]

Why are you going to class at work?

[green anchor]

pvp teacher

it's so over for those kids btw

[green wharf]

need to teach the young gremlins

people at MUD's age are hard to deal with

[latent fossil]

Oh you’re a teacher?

What do u teach

[green wharf]

im graduating still, but its history

did biology for a short while too

[latent fossil]

Nice!

When did WW2 end?

[green wharf]

after the final battle

Okay

[green anchor]

after Duelist

[latent fossil]

Reported.

[lavish quest]

Elite Syeg when?

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stand-balance-wise-cat-top-cat-gif-3520757

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/never-gonna-happen-breaking-bad-nope-no-way-hank-schrader-gif-4945261051704099839

[latent fossil]

Leland

[magic wing]

Elite in blitz

[wheat jay]

would syeg be gladiator in ww3?

or remain rival?

[magic wing]

Rival incel

[green wharf]

i would do pve, cause brazil doesnt go to war

VerySmug

[magic wing]

Brazil goes to war every day

[green wharf]

thats a different kinda of war

MaulerFeels

[static knoll]

I just realized, sharpen blade doesnt buff the healing reduction of ms?

just the damage

[magic wing]

It does ?

Its 50% for 4s normal is 25%

[static knoll]

MS tooltip says 50%

[lavish quest]

Give me my 3% back

madge

[static knoll]

Maybe my tooltip is messed up

[lavish quest]

Nerfed in pvp

[static knoll]

o i c

yo why cant blizz make that more visible somewhere

[lavish quest]

Cuz game too complicated

[static knoll]

grr

[lavish quest]

This is the only tru 50% war has

[green wharf]

Cuz pvp is a minigame

Clueless

[scarlet trout]

@lavish quest

Arms is being played in top level m+ comps

😳

[wheat jay]

has been for weeks

its basically #4 spec in m+

well, i'd say top 4 are all equal

[green wharf]

design arm as a aoe cleave spec

[wheat jay]

2 working builds too

[green wharf]

expect to be good in the aoe cleave mode

hmm

[wheat jay]

you play slayer in some keys, colo in others

for example you play slayer in academy

cuz its all bosses

colossus in pit of saron cuz its all big packs and bosses are aoe/cleave

[static knoll]

isnt the bladestorm talent also 50% ms?

[wheat jay]

to be fair i think this is the most balanced season ever in pve

for m+

[magic wing]

True

[elfin surge]

no

[magic wing]

Pugging as dps warrior used to be almost impossible

[wheat jay]

20+

[static knoll]

bro what, the talent says 50%! It's a pvp talent!!!

[elfin surge]

I know its a bugged tooltip, its 25%.

[static knoll]

What the fuck lmao. Whatever I dont read shit i just press buttons

[worldly oriole]

been off the gym for like 4 days.. just hit upper body

[lavish quest]

It just applies the standard 50% MS. Which is nerfed to 25%

😂

[static knoll]

lol, why the fuck would a pvp talent be written like that. Blizz 😵‍💫

They should change sharpen to say it reduces healing by 100%, just to be consistent

[lavish quest]

Because you can use pvp talents in pve

[magic wing]

In classic its 50% all the time

[lavish quest]

Cuz you're not spamming the button and there's no pvp adjustments lol

[worldly oriole]

damn i need a gold injection

[magic wing]

Im on 40k whole xpack

[worldly oriole]

i have

legit

like 7 or 8 toons

with enchants lol

running out

[magic wing]

Just living off herbing

[worldly oriole]

of everything

[magic wing]

Oof

[lavish quest]

Time to do gold world quests on all of em

[magic wing]

Delete them and make a warrior

[magic wing]

How much per 1?

[lavish quest]

Like 1k

[magic wing]

Not bad

[magic wing]

I have 2x 90 and 1x 80 tho

[worldly oriole]

so true twin @lavish quest

[magic wing]

Need to get my lazy ass on that

[worldly oriole]

lol bck in legion i would d all artifact power WQ everyday

[magic wing]

Same

[worldly oriole]

when i was super plugged into the matrix

[magic wing]

Now I sit in Silvermoon kicking my ass

[lavish quest]

Good gold to be had doing those world quests and then for like the weekly quests/event boxes

Those give like 2k per. The main weekly quest gives like 4-5k

[worldly oriole]

world boss meta quest

im doing

for the apex cache

containing 2k

[bright kraken]

i hit 3k tonight

[magic wing]

I am an absolute R word then looool

I do the mulch for lotus once an hour

And spend my concentration

For gold consumes to sell

[worldly oriole]

damn you did a 19

[lavish quest]

Only 3k?

Found the foretold 3k incel @wheat jay @fierce elm

[wheat jay]

xD'

[fierce elm]

3k incel smh

[lavish quest]

Maybe. I don't even focus on them much and I probably make like 20-40k a week at least if I'm playing a good amount. I'm starting to slow down, only keys/3s

[rancid granite]

it's good gold especialy if you have 2-3+ chars

and quick and easy

[green wharf]

gold farming from wq

is legit good

have 4 alts and you can do a lot

i had like 10-ish in TWW

i was reaping 100k-200k every week

[rancid granite]

the best part is there's an end point lol, do your 'chore' then good for a day or 2, and you can do it while in Q etc

[latent fossil]

Leland send me 200k gold right now

[solemn elm]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HJaAukCW0AIXvMO.webp

[rancid granite]

me last night trying to sleep

[lavish quest]

I don't pay the cabal

[static knoll]

Who gave dragons all this mobility

[solemn elm]

mister untouchable

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-ion-ion-hazzikostas-ion-nod-wow-nod-gif-9634381326624666753

[cunning roost]

I feel like dragons don´t really fit in wow and particualry not in arena. I can be furious about mages kiting me but that´s how it´s always been. Dragons I can´t really accept, they don´t belong here

[worldly oriole]

dragon ruined the game

jkjk its grown on me

wasn't fond of them returning in tww tho

every dragon game felt hopeless on my melee

but there isn't as many now it seems

[cunning roost]

Im surprised anyone wants to play one because of the model they have, guess thats why blizz buffs them

It´s also the most boring new class ever to join the game

compare dragons to how awesome Dk´s were when first introduced

[solemn elm]

not a lot of dev evokers around compared to some other classes, doesn’t do much other than fly around and cast sleep and a bunch of damage

only time there was a bunch of dragons which still prolly is the case was last week with all the pres evokers

[cunning roost]

Which was the best season ever for warrior? Looking back through all expansions? If there is anyone old enough here to answer

[solemn elm]

shadowlands season 1 probably

i never played it but was really strong then and overwatch was a ridiculous talent

if you intervened you ate whatever next spell is casted, very absurd can just eat your friends sheep for free

and condemn hit hard

shadowlands season 3 fury warrior was really strong too

[worldly oriole]

im so ready

[solemn elm]

mists of pandaria warrior like the entire expansion

[lavish quest]

Someone just got this

[worldly oriole]

you get it from doing an old raid

[lavish quest]

But season over...

[tender crescent]

what is the better hero talent in 2v2 as arms? Slayer or Colossus?

[solemn elm]

colossus

[rancid granite]

mud would say slayer i bet

and mention how slayer is So MuCh FuN

[green wharf]

the mythic achiev isnt seasonal

[lavish quest]

But the seasonal season achieve should be x)

[solemn elm]

probably would be better to switch to if you’re fighting smth ranged and annoying

[elfin surge]

slayer

[rancid granite]

see

[elfin surge]

both good i like slayer more in 2s

[tender crescent]

Appreciate it :3

[urban skiff]

What? I catch them way more often than I do mages

[wheat jay]

wow doesn't want me today

lmao

[urban skiff]

new week new lobby

what we thinking here?

ret or ww?

[rancid granite]

ww

[wheat jay]

i'd go ret ngl

[urban skiff]

bm insisted on WW and then I got dropped in the first stun

[wheat jay]

lmao

why go ww

just go kill ret, its squishy lmao

[rancid granite]

my #1 rule is never go paladin and it works for me

[wheat jay]

and won't run away

???

paladin is the best kill target most games

[rancid granite]

wont run away??

ret pallies are the class that runs the most

seeing them get on their high horse and run away is he new bubble hearth

[urban skiff]

we're not even getting first bubble or lay into that ret

[wheat jay]

then y'all do 0 dmg and 0 pressure?

[urban skiff]

or hunter does

[wheat jay]

if all goes well

cc

dmg

[urban skiff]

lmao

[wheat jay]

then you should be getting something from ret every time healer is in cc

[urban skiff]

this is a nightmare lobby somehow

healers can't keep up with the pressure they're putting out

I can't even start my damage before it's halfway over

[wheat jay]

ok i cant play cuz of the lags lmao

wtf is going on xD

only in wow

[wheat jay]

i dont think devastatation is A+

also can they finally remove a+?

and just keep it to abcd...

[lavish quest]

Ww way easier to kill

Wut

[wheat jay]

its so stupid

[wheat jay]

he's an enh

he's gonna try to chase him

which will never happen

[lavish quest]

I've accidentally killed WWs before

They just fall over

[wheat jay]

lmao i had that with rets

[rancid granite]

skillcapped using AI to do heir videos maybe they use AI to make the tier lists too

[urban skiff]

Their lists are based off of wow arena logs i think

[green wharf]

its a small indie company bro

chill

[wheat jay]

okay guys

1sec

let me take a good deep look

and apply lack of logic

devourer too high

put it at A so its safe from nerfs

both priests in A is a joke

when voidweaver exists and rmp exists

[green wharf]

ConfusedCat

[rancid granite]

already going wrong here

Aatos tier list: warrior S, everyone else D tier

[wheat jay]

so, nerf warrior?

noted

[rancid granite]

unless im on rogue then rogue s: everyone else d tier

[wheat jay]

brother

how do you lose

[urban skiff]

so according to the healer, I'm the problem

[urban skiff]

paladin using magic bubble on me vs ww+bm seems appropriate

[solemn elm]

who cares if they kite you, you’re stopping shit from happening and so long as you continue to stay on them you force a lot of their utility

if they’re running away from you you’re doing something right already

[green wharf]

well if you go zero wins, that might be the case

hmm

[solemn elm]

stun them on freedom, stun them on the horse

[green wharf]

at least for that match

[solemn elm]

this is why you gotta stop watching those skill capped guides

[rancid granite]

listen my plan is to go by gut instinct and it always says ignore the paladin

[wheat jay]

like, 90% of pallies will horse to hoj healer

drop a grounding then

and youre golden

[rancid granite]

though if i see a bubble pop i do swap

[solemn elm]

not the move

[wheat jay]

you have purge for bop as well

[solemn elm]

shatter that shit bro

tf you doing

[wheat jay]

with hunter you have TWO

[green wharf]

if you squeeze a ret rly hard, he will buble before lay on hands

[wheat jay]

holy fuck y'all inting

[solemn elm]

if not save for bop, for later

[green wharf]

then they cant use lay on hands cause the CD

[wheat jay]

they have lay, they have bubble

that's all

and weak ass wall

[rancid granite]

I FORGET SHATTER EXISTS

[wheat jay]

what else is he gonna do?

[solemn elm]

going ret is always the move if it’s in the lobby

[green wharf]

KEKpoint

[solemn elm]

why are you pointing and laughing

you don’t even play shatter either yourself

[rancid granite]

lololol

[green wharf]

i do

[solemn elm]

cause you said you can never get it off apparently

[green wharf]

lol

[wheat jay]

ye you play it and never use it

holy fuck Flep

[green wharf]

even told here i killed a mage with it

[wheat jay]

these guys need to back to pvp kindergarten

cuz their education is lacking

[urban skiff]

shatter can end ice walls

[solemn elm]

dont shatter an ice wall bro, over power that shit like 2-4 times

[green wharf]

man you guys are wacky as fuck lately

[urban skiff]

a shame the only time you can use it on ice wall is also when you always have iceblock to contend with

[solemn elm]

you’re trolling if you shatter an ice wall

[urban skiff]

Shatter needs like a 30 second cd

it is useful for exactly one thing and the stupid cd is prohibitive

what do I go each round?

I want to say mage

[solemn elm]

gotta shatter the right thing and go warlock

affliction warlock free casting not the move

[wheat jay]

that's fmage

so use grounding ON THEIR POP

[wheat jay]

OKAY!?

ON COMBUSTION

[solemn elm]

press grounding totem when combustion is pressed

[urban skiff]

I always do, that's why they always poly me frist

[solemn elm]

trinket ground to save your friend or yourself, shear the sheep if not

gotta be cracked

[wheat jay]

not even cracked lol, gotta not be shit

this game is 100% trading matchup

trade your shit

and you win

tho ngl, personally id go fire, but im devourer xd

so with rogue in my team that'd be preferred target

[green wharf]

afflic is doing a fuckton of damage lately

[wheat jay]

or at least do swaps on mage

[green wharf]

i honestly would go them even with frost on the lobby

interrupt ice beam, then go afflic

[solemn elm]

needs to be one or the other, gonna waste extra mobility you could use on warlock trying to stop a ray of frost, bolt fear mage on cd instead for cross cc and just ride lock and don’t let him cast

since it’s fire can just fear combustion and stun their trinket and you boolin

but that’s if you got that lobby as a warrior

[wheat jay]

if they go warr you can just reflect+dstance and take half dmg lol

[urban skiff]

This feels like there's a healer diff

[wheat jay]

stream

[green wharf]

i was using rebound lately, cause double reflect i often reflected mortal coils

but the +10s on cd is rough

[solemn elm]

you can do that without it just predict it

lotta times warlocks make it predictable

[wheat jay]

the more you play the more you see those things

[green wharf]

but when there are 2 casters there is so many minor spells being fired that it is wasted before coil

[solemn elm]

you go in do all of your stuff of course usually when they port and you’re about to charge to them again they’re gonna throw out a coil most likely

yea it is what it is it’s hard to get it off

[wheat jay]

like, one game iwth choppah i told him "he's going hoj soon ill reverse"

[green anchor]

just predict it lmfao

[wheat jay]

happened literally 3s later xD

[solemn elm]

before i’d just cheat cause omnibar would tell me

maybe i get lucky maybe i dont

[wheat jay]

like we predicted before

[solemn elm]

even then wouldn’t get it anyways

[wheat jay]

good players will have easier time without addons

[green anchor]

only time i manage to predict coil is literally the second I touch the warlock

[wheat jay]

bad players will have harder time

[solemn elm]

cause i reflected like some piss

[green wharf]

like with destro i know a coil will come cause he used the duplicate thing

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay can do on disc

[green anchor]

at that point it's not even a prediction

[solemn elm]

that’s usually when they do it

[green wharf]

with afflic is harder cause they can throw a corruption before and waste

[urban skiff]

I know I'm not playing perfect right now, had some break from playing

[lavish quest]

Flep... I been taking shatter whenever relevant. Are you proud?

smile

[solemn elm]

of course

[lavish quest]

Idk if it's won me a whole lotta games, but at least a few

[solemn elm]

always go for it, and don’t forget you can literally just cancel it if they cancel their block or whatever

or whatever happens

just move to the left

or right

[wheat jay]

oh my what did I see

WAS THAT A WIN OFF A PROC

WHERE YOU GUYS 100-0 A ROGUE

IN HALF A SECOND!?

[solemn elm]

sometimes with mage you can tell they’re gonna cancel when you just move your little gnomeo camera they’re like oh the warriors not gonna hit me let me just cancel block

[wheat jay]

if it wasnt a proc

then still regarded spec

cuz you can do that...

[lavish quest]

I'm definitely more of a move to the right guy

[solemn elm]

dumb ass mind game with mage blocks but it works cause they think the warrior isn’t gonna hit me heh. i’m in block man im fine! let me cancel

[wheat jay]

ok zercher tried to kick poly

mage is on his team

[solemn elm]

you don’t have to shatter then

[green wharf]

shaman kick is so good

[wheat jay]

cuz bars are similar

[solemn elm]

shear is the best kick in the game

mayb like skull bash next

[green wharf]

shamans and warlocks are the chad casters

[solemn elm]

if you think cs is so good remember mage also has cs

and you don’t like those

[wheat jay]

ok

what did i learn from this lobby

shaman is broken af as he can 100-0 people

[urban skiff]

you sure?

[wheat jay]

...

[wheat jay]

yes

xD

[urban skiff]

You sure I didn't just outplay him?

[wheat jay]

it was mostly well played

[urban skiff]

The 0-6 before this threw me off

[wheat jay]

tho ngl you get lost when turning your char

big time

like, youre spinning, and spinning

and not hitting anyone

[urban skiff]

I think it's my conscious attempts at catching up to a laggy brain

like I need to stop myself and look at different UI elements to check what's what, so I swap to like refreshing buffs and healing and purging and stuff while I do the reset

Basically trying to play consciously instead of just going by feel

For some reason it's super unnatural to me

Or maybe I am getting lost, I don't really know

[green anchor]

I get tunnel vision in long arena matches

round ends and I realize oops i didn't even glance at enemy utility cds

[solemn elm]

just have to keep a level head and do good stuff even if it’s demoralizing cause the dampening will eventually ramp up so high, something’s gotta give

but so long as you did good stuff the entire round you’ll still win

unless of course you just get a shit lobby

[urban skiff]

Any lobby with me in it is shit

😄

[green anchor]

and an aff warlock

[urban skiff]

I think WW is infinitely worse than aff lock

just them having 2x charges of their offensives offends me

[worldly oriole]

i got a zero sugar american dew

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay we going again

[wheat jay]

go sp

and warr when against double warr

id say kill fury

less likely to go dstance imo

[green anchor]

SPs don't wanna die ever i feel like

idk what made it so this xpac

[green anchor]

wait that's oreqizer guy

[wheat jay]

ok you MUST go 6/0 here

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[wheat jay]

lets be fucking real

[copper fox]

That’s hilarious

[wheat jay]

it HAS to be 6-0 for you zerch

[copper fox]

Zercher is win trading

[wheat jay]

fury using 0 disarms

0 cc

[green anchor]

did he not use disperse

[wheat jay]

but zerch not kicking song of chiji

he did before

[copper fox]

This is 100% a 6-0 enhance

I agree

[wheat jay]

why you kicking sp rotatioin and giving precog

when rsham is casting heals in range

@rustic wind disarm doomwinds and youre golden

stun if he trinkets it

zercher you cant use haymaker INTO CAP TOTEM on warrior...

why is noone disarming or stunning doomwinds?

wtf

y'all suck

[copper fox]

Wait where is this

[wheat jay]

bro its hurting my brain

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-saying-that-gif-2288717594196978123

[wheat jay]

what is this

[wheat jay]

i am watching them real time

two warriors

[urban skiff]

I can't fight a friend

[wheat jay]

zero disarms

holy fuck

[solemn elm]

LMAAOOAA

yall got each other

[latent fossil]

What mmr

[solemn elm]

i love that

[wheat jay]

no clue what they are on

like 2100?

[latent fossil]

wait what

[worldly oriole]

holy shit, did they buff the world boss quest, or did a proc a fat bag?

[solemn elm]

they’re like 2150 or some shit

in eu

[latent fossil]

And they’re not disarming doomwinds?

why

[solemn elm]

cause they’re 2150

[latent fossil]

U gotta be 3K or som to disarm doomwinds? Xd

[solemn elm]

LMAOO no

[wheat jay]

FIRST DISARM OF HTE GAME LETS GO

4TH ROUND

GAMERS

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

the awareness isn’t very high or thinking of many other things

[worldly oriole]

you can side step

doomwind too

only ascendance makes him ranged

[solemn elm]

the sb bug got fixed

so everybody is totemic

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

the last few enhances atleast

[wheat jay]

what is goign on with the fucking running away in wolf form?

[solemn elm]

thank you

[wheat jay]

then waddling back in on slow?

[solemn elm]

he just

[wheat jay]

??????????

[solemn elm]

loves doing that shit

[wheat jay]

what

is

[solemn elm]

thank you

[wheat jay]

that

bro

i am actively becoming a worse player watching this

[solemn elm]

every single time i watch him play he literally goes ghost wolf and jumps around in the middle of the map man

[urban skiff]

TRYING TO GIVE THE HEALER A CHANCE TO HEAL

[solemn elm]

ATTACK

[wheat jay]

YOU'RE OVERH ALF JP

HP

DO DAMGUR

[green anchor]

i only got 2k

[copper fox]

Yea the running post you the game

[green anchor]

scam

[solemn elm]

bro it’s the same result regardless you’re just wasting your life in ghost wolf bro

[copper fox]

Lost*

[latent fossil]

Zercher about to hunt all of u down

[copper fox]

Damage wins games

[solemn elm]

literally running away in ghost wolf does nothing i’ve been trying to tell you this for like a week now

[copper fox]

If anything it gives the other teams healer more of a chance to heal 🤣

[wheat jay]

i mean i agreed with you

[solemn elm]

your momentum is thrown out of the window the minute you do that

[wheat jay]

i just didnt think he does it THAT mcuh