pvp

[lavish quest]

[solemn elm]

what did you play

and what was going on

no healing going out or somethin?

[lavish quest]

MW/War and like 3 diff dps lol

[solemn elm]

what dps?

[lavish quest]

ret/enh/dev dh

[jovial torrent]

welp 4-2 il take it

one priest went 5-1

[solemn elm]

break it down what was goin on w the ret war games homie wasn’t throwing out util?

[jovial torrent]

quick q, means i got absolute demons in my game

[solemn elm]

nah you’ll be alright

[jovial torrent]

guna go colosus and sit priest i guess

and maybe hpala

[solemn elm]

need to go boomy to stop clone so he doesn’t control the game

[jovial torrent]

damn kk

kite city

[solemn elm]

but if he’s gonna b untouchable can go prist

nice job :]

[jovial torrent]

nice , pala didnt spam freedom boomy

[solemn elm]

he don’t know how to kite and you got a ret on your team so you’re safer than safe

don’t overestimate the people you be fighting sometimes just shit on them like you did

ah good try

[jovial torrent]

nearly

[solemn elm]

holy pally needs saving

at the end there go for way more focus kicks on penance puts him behind super hard

like #1 thing i do is look for that

[jovial torrent]

ayy we got pala one

[solemn elm]

big dam

saved him

[jovial torrent]

now to make him a victim again

[solemn elm]

can’t lose this lobby

[jovial torrent]

dang, i just couldnt connect to druid at end

[solemn elm]

yea rough one there cause of freed he started to kite better

[jovial torrent]

nearly had him

i think i could have went disc a bit at the end

then they would all rot

back to back instant games

oh my lawd

[lavish quest]

Actually now that I think about it, ret left as we queued so never got into a match with him

so was just enh and dev dh

[solemn elm]

good try

it was probably ret there

[jovial torrent]

im sure theres probs a world where i go sham or somthing a bit mroe there

[solemn elm]

it just fell apart at the end

oh yea you could go shaman with the feral

that would have been more ideal

[jovial torrent]

ye feral had to hide then ui was dead

[solemn elm]

ow

[jovial torrent]

the cc spam from double druid sham

unfortunate

[solemn elm]

too much swapping just stick to boomy with your friend there

[lavish quest]

I think it was mw I had. we had a game vs retwar disc, we got both pain sups and parry in opener and then just lost a min later

but also im not very good at 3s

[solemn elm]

just have more confidence

and most likely just wasn’t getting healing out

and we traded bad

[wheat jay]

what rating are you?

[solemn elm]

have more confidence and crank more and less thinking about a lot of stuff

just focus on max dam cause that’s what overwhelms people

and don’t be afraid to ask stuff too man

[lavish quest]

That was their cds not ours

[solemn elm]

nah i know

still

like they just didn’t get much healing out or something went wrong

very fast

[rustic wind]

@solemn elm what’s your twitch link pls? Everyone else here too pls send me

My boomer ass has downloaded it fst time

[solemn elm]

twitch.tv/flippard

nice work :] long round there

[jovial torrent]

https://www.twitch.tv/mickers live atm

[solemn elm]

we take that 4 tuah

hard to win that wack ass round cause ret makes every one tanky for an hour maybe go priest with boomy but he would never agree with that

[jovial torrent]

that boomy is streaming going to see what he is saying

[scarlet trout]

why do u care what a boomie has to say

[jovial torrent]

russian so no idea 😛

[scarlet trout]

They play with rogues and do oneshot corny shit

[lavish quest]

1800ish

[solemn elm]

leland send gameplay video asap

[lavish quest]

But I haven't done a ton of games, I just don't enjoy pugging

[solemn elm]

and i understand

[latent fossil]

Im so fucking hungry

[solemn elm]

i can play dev evoker to help you to like 2100 or something then i have to let you go on your own

[jovial torrent]

hype, peak 2423 in solo

[solemn elm]

or like something better maybe more coordinated for you

close that damn russian boomy

[scarlet trout]

Leland played with me

[solemn elm]

stream

[scarlet trout]

And i did more damage than him

[solemn elm]

and put your music back on

[scarlet trout]

True story

[solemn elm]

his keyboard sounds nice tho atleast

but he was already raging bein like blyat

[latent fossil]

Cyka blyat

[solemn elm]

eat something

[latent fossil]

Rush B

[solemn elm]

and get conquest points

p90 rush b

[jovial torrent]

DOOR STUCK

[latent fossil]

Waiting for brothers to come home , so a few hours , but even so we’ll probably get fucked and have a nice laugh

[solemn elm]

careful you don’t drink with empty stomach

[latent fossil]

Look at this thicc ass brownie

[solemn elm]

i do that all of the time and it ends bad

he’s very kind

slap his butt

[latent fossil]

I do that all the time, he’s 11 now and a bit deaf

But he’s a good boi

He beat cancer a few months ago 🙂‍↔️

[worldly oriole]

new lord of the rings game gonna slap

[solemn elm]

wooaahhhhhhh ohhh ohh

[jovial torrent]

i hope so

[solemn elm]

i played till like 7 am ffxiv that is

[jovial torrent]

madman

[latent fossil]

I dont really like kingdom come deliverance but I’ll sure try their LOTR game

[solemn elm]

once i finish these stupid wins im playing that shit forever

[jovial torrent]

tho i ended up stoppin at 2am, cus i wasnt about to leave a q i sat 25 mins in

[solemn elm]

such a big homie i’m glad he’s okay

deserves so much love

god i still hate doing aether currents

[latent fossil]

What’s that

[solemn elm]

it’s some shit in ffxiv to get flying

need to walk around the zone on foot and get these orbs scattered everywhere then 4 quests

in the zone

it’s annoying as shit

[sharp pilot]

just have a buddy fly you to them

[scarlet trout]

consider the following

Dawntrail didnt have the omega protocol

So its dogshit

[solemn elm]

i have no friends unfortunately and when i do ask them they just tell me oh go walk

and figure it out

[sharp pilot]

[solemn elm]

well it’s gonna have kefka so just as good

it also was like 6 am so nobody on

i have been desperately trying to find new friends or something on the game but i have a very hard time trying to interact with people i think im playing the game wrong or some shit i’ve been playing for a minute too

oh well

atleast in the dungeons i can say hi and be cool

i find a lot of wow refugees in them

[jovial torrent]

play fem roegadyn, i cant keep ppl away

[solemn elm]

LMAO i’m midlander hyur i was about to fantasia last night since i have a free one

turn into like miqo again or maybe bunny girl

you can finally wear hats on them

give me blinding indigo

after this one

[jovial torrent]

i should have saved my ffxiv screenshots on harddrive before switching to new comp

i havent turned my old comp on in so long i dont even know if it wil

[solemn elm]

o yea put on blinding indigo for this lobby for sure

[latent fossil]

wtf are u guys talking about

[scarlet trout]

Fleperd couldnt handle prime TOP

Hes a casual

Filthy casual

[solemn elm]

final fantasy 14 online

and i probably can’t /: most i could do is savage

[scarlet trout]

ee,,,ww…..

[solemn elm]

i suck too much

but i’ll tank your extreme gladly or savage :3

YEA

[latent fossil]

dunno why my fucking ping in wow has went up in the last couple of days, from like 90 to 120

[solemn elm]

interwebs bugging out

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-wunkus-silly-cat-gif-15459501743584172385

[solemn elm]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HI5BVYzW0AAYpSJ.webp

creature

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

near the end there you coulda feared chammy really hard and it would have helped with the pacing

and then also priest is right ontop of ya needs a kick on penance bad

puts them behind

frog mount

hmmm do twice stricken

[jovial torrent]

i love this one

listened to it alot

[solemn elm]

take shatter by the way

also same the one from arr and this one are my favorite

jesus

[wheat jay]

fair

btw

leland

and @stuck mulch

I DID THE THING

[solemn elm]

big 20

[stuck mulch]

giga

im just w8ing for the poe 2 stuff now

going for another fast mirror

[solemn elm]

OO

perfect choice

probably my favorite boss recently

WHEN I CLIMB IN THE RING WE LOCK EYES AND THATS WHEN I REALIZE

THAT IM FREE THIS IS MEE

[lavish quest]

Yuge

[solemn elm]

spear bug :(

would have connected too

[jovial torrent]

yeh

very sadge

[solemn elm]

we take the 4-2

[jovial torrent]

ayyy rank 69 tho, worth

[solemn elm]

owning rn 😎

need to log other choppah now no lie

winning too much on this one

[jovial torrent]

yeh

im guan go make some food, then il log other chop for a bit

[solemn elm]

good watch there

[jovial torrent]

il stop stream for now, gg ty for tips

more driveby penance kicks better fears

[solemn elm]

i can tell you watching me has done something since you actually play so aggressive

[jovial torrent]

and boomy enemy of the state

[solemn elm]

it’s great

and yea that for sure it’s just like the tiniest things that add up

[jovial torrent]

i also feel like im getting the rotation more

i dont really think about it anymore, i hammer overpower ms and keep an eye out for procs

and demolish

im actually sweating lol my back glued to the chair

[solemn elm]

basically

don’t have to think about it just spread rends everywhere

[jovial torrent]

when i first started i would fumble demolish so bad, id see i had 10 procs and cc, but didnt realise i had like 5 secs left on cd

[solemn elm]

it’s not really the rotation you just kind of know the actual like volatility of your ability’s now too

depending on what you’re hitting

and yea it be like that but you can still have it line up with a c smash up cause you can just give it cdr with mortal strikes

[jovial torrent]

u collecting some more wins today?

[solemn elm]

most likely ya

[static knoll]

Does spear just not work on the goblin map, I had a shuffle there and it bugged out every time I tossed it on the platform

[solemn elm]

i was gonna play like last night but i was so fried from this shift

[solemn elm]

it’s very up in the air, usually if you throw it on the ramp or in the middle section kind of it just disappears

[lavish quest]

Weird geometry bugs it out

[static knoll]

But the middle section is flat so I don’t get why it bugs out

But I was chasing a warlock around the map, and every time I speared on the platform it bugged :(

[solemn elm]

most likely, because of the corners and the crosshair for spear is bigger than it

[lavish quest]

Was it towards the edge?

[solemn elm]

which is dumb

[static knoll]

Idk it was the other day, but I feel like not

[solemn elm]

just annoying bug hasn’t happened to me as of recent much but when i do get cage of carnage it can be annoying

ima make some shit like this fasho

this is so clean

ok nap time

[jovial torrent]

ye u have to be on the same elevation to land spear, if ur on a ramp u can hit the ramp, if ur not on it , itll vanish

u can also cus of slow animation make it vanish by juking behind pillar as u throw it

https://www.twitch.tv/mickers/clip/QuaintSecretiveBillDxAbomb-KD8LzJDndtX8nXbv

happened on last round

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay not rare, mutton leg
@spice hornet jumpscare
@solemn elm meat meat meat

[rustic wind]

@solemn elm first thing I noticed is how you generously use dstance when being trained. Need to do that too

[jovial torrent]

fries look nice

[latent fossil]

WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE?

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-confused-hell's-kitchen-gif-12189411877058717873

[urban skiff]

Didnt have red wine and realized too late. So it's not what i wanted

[latent fossil]

wow, IT'S FROZEN

(idk wtf im talking about)

but i've been watching kitchen nightmares

[spice hornet]

Looks yummy

[solemn elm]

always its not much but its what we got usually when im about to pop i just weave back into battle stance

[latent fossil]

yo so should I wait until 2500 conq for the weaps

wtf do I buy first

main pieces?

[frozen glacier]

get weapon > upgrade it> q on blues till full conquest

[latent fossil]

but I'll get weapon for free at 2500 conquest

[frozen glacier]

yeah

i generelly get the set pieces and q on blues

[stark agate]

what do you guys think of crafting a weapon with Hunt or Void embellishment now that conq is uncapped

[jovial torrent]

yeh take the free weapon, get tier shoulders gloves first and the proc dps trinket

upgrade wep/trinket with void sliver when u can

then like crafted bracers cloak for double arcanoweave embelish

after that it doesnt really matter fill in whatever, probs 2nd trinket then rest of armour

https://seramate.com/us/Zul'jin/Magnusz?showGear=true i copied this, for whatever reason it doesnt show 2 arcanoweave for me , but its on bracers belt or cloak, any 2 of those 3

[rustic wind]

what the hell

2209 rating

[abstract fossil]

Then que pops, one doesnt accept and you wait 5more minutes

🙂

[jovial torrent]

ur in the big leagues now

whats funny is my 2400 q's were faster than my 2200-2300 q

[patent kettle]

How is arms warrior oba?

[green anchor]

trinkets

medallion + insignia

[sharp pilot]

is there any difference between tier shoulder/gloves or tier helm/gloves? I've seen examples of both when looking through high rated arms gear

[frozen glacier]

im using same as laross

a bit more mastery

[frozen glacier]

the stats

helm give more mastery and less haste

[latent fossil]

Magnusz using double engineer stuff , helm and wrists xd

[frozen glacier]

cause is haste mastery

[jovial torrent]

u only need 1 engi to use the helm, can have others craft it for u

the engi u go full versa

[frozen glacier]

and shoulder gives less mastery and more haste idk exactly

[jovial torrent]

get 30% versa in pvp combat 20% haste and like 13-14 mastery

[latent fossil]

I meant he's using vers helm and vers wrists

[jovial torrent]

boots are also pure vers

[latent fossil]

Da fuck

[stark agate]

I basically copied his build to get 30% verse and 20% haste, 12% mastery from shoulders and hands

its nice

[jovial torrent]

yup its like 15% dmg reduction from vers

5% colosus , 10% dstance

[latent fossil]

interesting

[jovial torrent]

u dont lose that much % dmg cus vers also gives dmg

[latent fossil]

now I just need the fucking heraldries lmao

[jovial torrent]

crate farm or just grind out solo shuffle with what u have atm then eventually replace it

ive hit 2300 with 27% haste, 19% haste and 20% vers

[latent fossil]

this is a brand new war, so my gnome is kinda naked

THICC

[jovial torrent]

would reccomend craft farm to 2.5k conquest, will take a few hours

dont forget to grab silvermoon quests just incase one is doable

while ur cappin conquest dont forget to buy the pvp red gems from ah, and spend 3+5k honor to get 3 gem slots ready for when u have conquest gear

[latent fossil]

So much farming

:v

[jovial torrent]

it isss what it iss, they should 100% double or triple conquest gains tho

[rustic wind]

mages are ridiculous

[latent fossil]

first things first, weapon, need to get to 2500 conq, im on 800 or sum

[jovial torrent]

yup

[rustic wind]

I at least matched the damage this time

[jovial torrent]

some lobbies are just so in their favour, with double invis stalling

[rustic wind]

this was absolutely impossible, I felt I did my very best

he even almost died three times

but no: block, blink, blink, timewarp or some shit

mage+ret is just impossible to catch either of them

mage+hunt was ok but the ret was trash

[jovial torrent]

yeh somtimes u just gotta hit ret

[rustic wind]

I did, even made it to top dmg

[jovial torrent]

i go slayer into those games, atleast u can send a full bladestorm on mage and they cant stop u

[rustic wind]

yea I go Col now due to tankiness but may consider it for these hyper mobile comps

[jovial torrent]

just into mages is so good cus its uninterruptable dmg

cant mass invis it or anything

[rustic wind]

yall's tips really help, I mean it's as simple as being more aggressive and just generally smash things, not overthink and use cooldowns generously

but I feel my whole game is much better thanks to it

I circulate around 2200 and been stuck below 1800 just two weeks ago

so thanks for that

[jovial torrent]

yeh big jump up

the rating is a bell curve, the closer u go up the harder it is to get a few points

[worldly oriole]

damn i lost 4 rating

cuz this healer dcd

and i got 2 losses with him

[jovial torrent]

lost one due to priest mc bug

[stark agate]

I played with a dev dh who had all craftred mastery/haste gear

[jovial torrent]

artji currently deleting me with crit mastery set

[wheat jay]

almost got my pvp gear

XD

missing 4 pieces

i might even play on use trinket with it XD

[urban skiff]

I mean it's still a lamb sauce. Just no red wine in it

[urban skiff]

They're mashed potato turned into fries

Meal was delicious. Wish i had wine for the sauce, and had remembered to cool a beer for a nice garden meal

[jovial torrent]

burgers today for me, simple

[rustic wind]

yea I've noticed a smooth curve starting around 2000, and huge cliff at 2200

At 2200 the arenas are suddenly 1.5x speed, everyone pumping, everyone reacting on point

[rustic wind]

@solemn elm I applied the def stance sitting in this match and it has helped me survive much longer (they targeted me every round) and keep pumping. Then on go I swapped and had all them MoW and Colossal Might stacks ready

Matchup was unfavorable but fight was fun and felt good instead of demoralizing

Neapolitan pizza > any other pizza

[lavish quest]

@solemn elm made a playlist and then snuck it into my featured without knowing my account

[latent fossil]

Leland

[lavish quest]

Hi

I beat double enh

LETSGOOO

[wheat jay]

i nuked some ret

as god intended

[lavish quest]

thought you said no one runs star

susge

[wheat jay]

i sometimes do

well

it can be used into double melees

sometimes

[deep stream]

what is cull

[wheat jay]

reap

but in meta

it changes name

[stark agate]

star + balance was a nightmare to fight

only ran into it a couple times

[jovial torrent]

my solo shuff is full of r1 and arenamasters

send help

[deep stream]

u got this

[lavish quest]

if you throw enough they'll go away

[deep stream]

[lavish quest]

CryThumbsUp

[deep stream]

had this before

he also had a 120k devour

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1472909684540182642/1503839117580963840/image.png?ex=6a11fdd1&is=6a10ac51&hm=024c61c39a42d638f5a65817416472669ac7b6639c35705bba0e67beaa522660&

[wheat jay]

yep

[deep stream]

was nasty

[wheat jay]

ngl

if he's playing collapsing star

you can go him

[deep stream]

350k

[jovial torrent]

+45 rating for a draw

[deep stream]

in 1.1 sec

nice

[jovial torrent]

both wars over 2400, q simulator time

[deep stream]

main reason why zolo shuffle sucks is queue timers

thunder also feels more comfy than turbo

[copper fox]

Thunder is chill af

Turbo is like dry scooping 3 scoops of pre workout at 6am

[scarlet trout]

Solo shuffle sucks cause its only for getting cosmetics

[fierce elm]

Isn't that all of PvP

[scarlet trout]

No

Some weird dudes on suicide watch play it for ego and fun

I hope they get well soon

[jovial torrent]

would be nice if there was a recolour of glad mount

[wheat jay]

there will be

[jovial torrent]

like m+ gets the 2500 and 3k

[wheat jay]

1% m+ mount

will be recolor of glad

with more armor

and more effects

[jovial torrent]

that would honestly be the nail in the coffin for pvp lol

[wheat jay]

it 100% would XDDDD

[jovial torrent]

i wonder if itll be a giga armoured version of the 3k

black red with armour

[deep stream]

[wheat jay]

ngl

id like that

that would be perfect

100% perfect

just make it the same mount, but armored to the fucking moon

[lavish quest]

But birds can only fly because they're light and have hollow bones

EmojiNerd

[copper fox]

?

There’s things in wow that aren’t for cosmetics

?

I’m going to be a housing main soon

[scarlet trout]

white women call them experiences

“Don’t buy things, buy experiences”

Type shit

Pvp is an experience

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/dayum-gif-1189676832747532102

[spice hornet]

so chill love just getting to mostly zug while the ele gets w keyed and the healer/ele figure things out

[jovial torrent]

id love to do housing if it wasnt just a gold sink

they should let u customise a house with all items fully unlocked, then let u save it as a shopping list once ur done to actually make it "real"

[solemn elm]

yea just takes fucking forever to win ngl

[spice hornet]

Yeah it can be frustrating af sometimes

[solemn elm]

but it’s there

feels like if your shaman just went enh and he doesn’t even know what he’s doing and just gave you lust and he pressed doomwinds

itd be faster

[wheat jay]

yes

for cosmetics

you win for rewards

[spice hornet]

i do not have good experiences in running turbo. i have never played with an actual good enh player thats consistently glad.

[copper fox]

Ngl I feel like turbo is supposed to beat ret war and I rarely lose to turbo because there just isn’t many good enhance

[jovial torrent]

ret is easier, enha u have to make good use of kick grounding hex and ur def are less forgiving

[copper fox]

Yea 100%

Ret is literally the easiest dmg to get off in the game too

[jovial torrent]

i watched aswogs guide on it, its just burst hide burst hide

ooo he has a enhance vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb4WLlbfvg8

lol first match he does 140k dps

[scarlet trout]

More than uhdk

[wheat jay]

No spec can do higher dmg than unh in a long game

[lavish quest]

Have you been a part of those experiences?

[wheat jay]

Is khailby finally ready to settle down?

[copper fox]

Is khabib actually a white girl

[lavish quest]

He doesn't sound like one

[wheat jay]

He behaves like one that's for sure lol

[lavish quest]

Khailby could just become a femboy, then I swear half of this discord would chase him on principle

[copper fox]

All true

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/gatto-cibo-cat-bread-hungry-cat-gif-15925702

[wheat jay]

Chase him or chase him away?

[lavish quest]

Many in here fall over themselves for femboys, like Syeg

For others, it's the same thing but egirls. Like MUD

[wheat jay]

Sheesh

[green anchor]

disgusting behavior

[worldly oriole]

you guys check out the drustvar tierlist?

[copper fox]

Send it

We need it

[worldly oriole]

[wheat jay]

That looks

Old

[rancid granite]

it has a higher skill ceiling than anything pvp can offer

[wheat jay]

Very old

Any tier list that doesn't have enh in s is wrong

[scarlet trout]

prot is too high

[rancid granite]

put disc priest S tier dps

[worldly oriole]

i had taco bell

[solemn elm]

what did you have

[wheat jay]

Did you go on that priest?

[rancid granite]

i had that thought after the game was over

[worldly oriole]

i had a potato taco and double beef burrito

[rancid granite]

that's probably like 7000mg of sodium

[honest sleet]

life is good bro

hit 2100

hit 315 on bench

all in one day

[solemn elm]

W

[lavish quest]

Should I start putting "Basically gladi" in my note when pugging?

[solemn elm]

yes

[worldly oriole]

i heard havoc got buffed

im so jhoated

[tiny canyon]

RIP Berserker Roar

[solemn elm]

dam

[onyx marlin]

expected tbh

[rancid granite]

buff for rallying cry when

[onyx marlin]

weird they only nerfed 3% our dmg tbh

[elfin surge]

WE NERFED

ITS OVER

[wheat jay]

Ngl i was expecting different nerfs

But oh well

[solemn elm]

pres nerf

W

[wheat jay]

@jovial torrent devourer not nerfed, pres small nerf

We're still gaming lmao

[ashen crypt]

oh no! just when i was gonna start doing solos with my warr!
🫃

[copper fox]

Link

Patch

Notes

[wheat jay]

Wowhead

You lazy hoe

[copper fox]

I’m busy

[jovial torrent]

any enhance or mage nerfs

if not, rigged

[wheat jay]

Enh fixed

That bug you mentioned

[jovial torrent]

ok thats a big nerf then if its fixed

[tiny canyon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/many-hero-talent-buffs-coming-upcoming-class-tuning-with-weekly-reset-381709?utm_source=discord-webhook

[copper fox]

Ty

[lavish quest]

Warrior needed buffed and then this happens

[jovial torrent]

i can accept 3% dmg nerf, tho i do hope dk mm bm getting touched on dps too

[lavish quest]

PepeHands

Do they know it was 5?

[copper fox]

It’s not? lol

[lavish quest]

I dunno, whenever I see it, it starts at 5 then counts down

shrug~1

[copper fox]

It starts at 4 ngl

There’s actually never a 5 there

[elfin surge]

it should be 1.5

[lavish quest]

Then my nameplates be lying to me

[elfin surge]

should need to time it on the cc

[copper fox]

That’s your age not your nameplates

[lavish quest]

My age doesn't make a 5 exist

[copper fox]

You’re imagining a number so something is doing it

[lavish quest]

[jovial torrent]

honestly nerfing duration of it is nothing, its still 3x longer than fade and 2 charges

they should have removed a charge

[copper fox]

Yep

[lavish quest]

How shroud doesn't have icd, but root break from slayer does, is incredible

[copper fox]

Warr still going to be the same btw

3% is literally nothing

[lavish quest]

It's 3%

[ashen crypt]

hi busy, im dad

[lavish quest]

Trust me, I ran the numbers

[copper fox]

3% is 0% on Leland’s nameplates

[jovial torrent]

only bit im sad about is the nerf to bleed dmg so nerf to heal

[chilly pivot]

what addon can we use instead of weakaura, like i want to make icons when an ability is ready, and put it where i want, and change the icon style etc

[delicate mist]

what nerf to bleed dmg?

[jovial torrent]

arcui with default cdm

[elfin surge]

no nerfs to dev dh is kinda crazy no?

[jovial torrent]

3% aura nerf , nerfs bleed right

[elfin surge]

feel like that spec does nothing until it one shots

[elfin surge]

which is a gameplay style they have been activly trying to avoid

[chilly pivot]

its not that many options for it

[jovial torrent]

u can put it where u want , i dunno about changing icons

u can also add sound to it

i dont think changing the icon is possible anymore

feral druid dmg increased, gross

[wheat jay]

Wall it then?

Its literally one instance of dmg in 1.5s or so

Then does nothing

Some also play 0 vers

Like me now

[copper fox]

I love when only the people who play the class defend it

[wheat jay]

Full glass cannon

[copper fox]

That’s when you know it’s a problem

[wheat jay]

Yes.

If we go by that then warr is always a problem

Either way, dh is strong, but absolutely not the outlier in current meta xD

That's arms and enh

[jovial torrent]

i dunno if id call arms a outlier

[copper fox]

That’s rogue and mage you mean yea

[wheat jay]

Enh hopefully got gutted with the bugfix

[jovial torrent]

it is high tier, but not rogue mage enh level

[wheat jay]

At highest rating ye

At lower ones theyre just ass lol

[stark agate]

dev dh is outlier

more than anything else

[jovial torrent]

i feel like these changes for the most part have changed literally nothing

[lavish quest]

What a guy

[stark agate]

dev DH players literally going full crafted gear low vers because of how unkillable they are

[jovial torrent]

all changes to hero talents people dont and wont ever use without reworks, a tap to warriors but none to rogue mage (ww burst which i think is a nuub stomper more than war)

itll be nice to have enhance burst be less of a heart attack but still guna get domed by invis spamming mages and hunters with double wall turtle fiegn and low cd burst

i dunno how big of a deal Templar: Divine Exaction down to 75% (was 150%) in PvP combat. is

i dunno if that was the big problem, i think it was the 3 bolts or whatever they shoot out that really hits hard

[wheat jay]

They are very killable in that setup xD

Hell, were very killable by turbo with full vers gear too

But thats turbo being #1 comp

[jovial torrent]

awc confirmed rmd every round again

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[stark agate]

yeah obviously everything is killable brotherman

no other damage spec is forgoing vers and one shotting people

turbo being #1 comp is honestly fake ass news. And before you say it no I don't play turbo

[wheat jay]

Its forgoing vers specifically to oneshot people

[wheat jay]

It is #1 comp, and i dont care if you play it xD

[stark agate]

Its forgoing it because they can instant transmission all over the arena and never die

[jovial torrent]

i dunno if it is the number 1 comp

rmd rmpres is like number 1

[wheat jay]

2200+

3s

[jovial torrent]

yes popular class is popular

[wheat jay]

Maybe not beat r1 comp, but overall id say its the best comp to get consistent results

Regardless of skill level

[lavish quest]

The world is full of warrior enjoyers

[wheat jay]

Performs at 1600, performs at 2400

[lavish quest]

Still need buffed

[wheat jay]

The world is full of meta rerollers

[lavish quest]

madge

[wheat jay]

And warrior is an easy class to reroll to

It is what it is

Ill take that over shit like affli/sp/assa passive play any day lmao

[copper fox]

@wheat jay bro no way you linked that. We AND you have shit on zercher for posting popularity as a method for claiming strength

[wheat jay]

Shush

[jovial torrent]

the only warrior in the top 25 is magnus and his alts

[wheat jay]

It fits my argument

[lavish quest]

Artji is in fact, cringe

[stark agate]

Its to prove his point so it's correct

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kizaru-borsalino-admiral-marines-shades-gif-10682292755083267442

Anyway, it might change now with enh getting fixed

I didnt even know its bugged until choppah told me xD

[jovial torrent]

dk WW actually a top comp atm lol

[wheat jay]

Also dont complain about devourer its your 2nd best comp

[worldly oriole]

havoc dh is goated

[little lava]

crazy take

XD

[jovial torrent]

there are alot of pres in the top 25, must be someone switching between alts

to heal same dps

[stark agate]

wym don't complain idgaf if he's one of my best comps

fighting it is ass

[little lava]

frost mage/ war is better than turbo

[copper fox]

@elfin surge best race for monk playing fw with ret war?

[haughty lichen]

Hey, potentially silly question but I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. Does the voidcore item level increase work in pvp? Do we need to acquire vers weapons from m+ for best pvp gear?

[jovial torrent]

theres a seperate void item for pvp

that increases pvp items to same ilvl

[haughty lichen]

sweet. Would you mind sharing the name?

[jovial torrent]

not logged in, voidsliver or somthing, u have to do pvp to get em anyway

rng drop from any ranked

[haughty lichen]

perfect yes I see it here - Galactic Voidsliver which combine into Galactic Void Matrix. Thank you

[spice hornet]

wild how frost mage never gets nerfed lol

[copper fox]

Ray is fine

[jovial torrent]

ray is fine, blink being same cd as the DR and mass invis, not so much

[lavish quest]

ray is fine

immortality is fine

[copper fox]

Invis is a huge problem

[lavish quest]

Imagine nerfing war dam but not 15s team invis

I dunno what the actual cd is

But feels like 15s

[jovial torrent]

i think its 1 min, but thats stupid when they have 2x giga shield, alter time and their regular personal invis

i hope they dont keep buffing arcane, it just shouldnt be a thing in pvp, its very toxic design, fart around blinking doing 0 dmg , press ur cd and oneshot , like enhance ww ect

[lavish quest]

Why do I see all the glad mounts in the depths of hell?

[copper fox]

Alts

[spice hornet]

People like Mud boosting e-girls

a tale as old as time itself

[copper fox]

Yea that

[brittle radish]

what’s the vibe is turbo dead asking for my warrior friend

[jovial torrent]

im starting to see people on current season mounts in shuffle

[copper fox]

The vibe is no one knows

[brittle radish]

3% seems manageable

crazy rogue mage goes untouched though

and dev dh

[copper fox]

The warr nerf is irrelevant

Enhance fix might hurt enhance tho

[lavish quest]

Do I just tell MUD I'm an egirl?

[jovial torrent]

i already didnt like berserker roar that much, short duration, not great range, can be removed by hunter and some other classes, wouldnt mind it being completely gutted

[brittle radish]

i play enh for us idk i don’t think it’s that rough tbh, lust nerf prob hurts more

[jovial torrent]

i didnt look that hard, but im guessing there were no BM hunter nerfs

[brittle radish]

we’ll see, appreciate the input

yeah no BM nerfs, cause blizz always hits the nail on the head with tuning 🙃

[copper fox]

BM doesn’t need a nerf

There’s so many things ahead of bm that need to be nerfed lol

[jovial torrent]

bestial wrath is same dmg cd as avatar but 30 sec cd

15 sec duration

[copper fox]

I know

[solemn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-says-saying-no-outfit7-gif-24967985

[idle falcon]

are you?

[solemn elm]

can we please

[idle falcon]

i need one in my life

[solemn elm]

do something about mass invis

[jovial torrent]

^

[idle falcon]

send ian a message on blizzard and say "i know what you did"

[lavish quest]

Time to level my bm

Was already better than war

[idle falcon]

then proceed to tell him nerf mass invis

[jovial torrent]

funny it works out ok for me and artji, we kind of went even with turbo, but now we should always beat em

so many MM/BM dk tho

and then occasional rmp that hasnt climbed yet

[copper fox]

Idk how you don’t blow dk up

The second I see a DK I basically auto win

Cupid on the other hand

A problem for me

[jovial torrent]

arji was versa build, i get trained/chained the whole game making my dmg lower, but he has gone full crit mastery now, so we should beat em now

[solemn elm]

boy

please

just send fking vods here

and quit doubting yourself

please never forget, kagisani has no idea what he’s doing

and he was owning on ww

i didn’t even mind

no way you’re “worse” on warrior when you just know how to do damage

[lavish quest]

I'm gonna have to get recording shit set back up. Since I replaced my pc in Nov, I never redownloaded the softwares

[solemn elm]

😡😡

pls

[lavish quest]

Slowly climbing

Slowly

[jovial torrent]

@copper fox it was kind of 50-50 wether we beat em or not, dk always pumped, would disarm/cc trueshot then train dk

we would basically 50-50 turbo. mm dk , ww dk, then lose rating to random voidweaver cheese comps or rmpres

[lavish quest]

I recently learned OBS is on steam. So that's cool, this time I got it thru that rather than natty

[solemn elm]

throw that up, if not send vods

you can leapfrog between leland and gnomeo

[lavish quest]

Obs records too :p

[copper fox]

Realistically was 10 seconds even necessary for banner

Was anyone 10 second pre bannering

I feel like I use it for a closer than 10 second away cc

[lavish quest]

You're absolutely right, should have been 30

[copper fox]

Every time

[jovial torrent]

im sure i got some value out of the 10 seconds, id banner after sap to stop the first cheap poly

24 yard range isnt so amazing somtimes tho

[copper fox]

I guess, I don’t banner after sap

I wait for a kidney

I usually storm the opener

Into a bolt

Then banner

[jovial torrent]

with 10 secs it would cover the healers next cc after sap

and usually catch cheap or whatever on their dps kill target

whats been bothering me is cap totem, it goes off pretty fast and has 12k hp, we auto for like 6k, and somtimes if u press a gcd as cap totem is dropped u dont get another fast enough to kill totem

ontop of no totem icons anymore

[copper fox]

Yea totems wouldn’t be a problem if they had icons lol

[jovial torrent]

especially with all pet rolling over em

[exotic forge]

I return to an Arms nerf

3%. Oh no. Anyway.

[lavish quest]

Frost mage technically buffed

I dunno what hero talent they play tho

[exotic forge]

Rip Ret

[jovial torrent]

they play spellslinger, but them being untouched means they are even better next week

[exotic forge]

[worldly oriole]

is ret over?

[jovial torrent]

templar might be, i think herald is quite close to current templar tho

[exotic forge]

Havoc buffed in pve

[worldly oriole]

double dh looking massive come the buffs

[copper fox]

Ret is fine it just goes herald

[solemn elm]

no lol

never 10 second prebannered

it just lasted 10 seconds for no reason

[latent fossil]

They really had to nerf our 2004 spec by 3% lol

[copper fox]

Yea that’s my point lol

We good

[latent fossil]

I can't find the Windwalker nerfs

maybe I'm missing the second page

oh, no

[worldly oriole]

DAMN

its joever

time to gear elemental

[green wharf]

Frost manage escaped another week without nerf, but they did nerf arms

OMEGAKEKW

[latent fossil]

We're "broken"

[worldly oriole]

idk i played with an rbg frost mage and wasn't impressed lol

[lavish quest]

Mud watched 2 games, then just was "nah fuck this shit" and left without a word

kekw

[frozen glacier]

let be honest 3% is nothing

honestly i was expecting a gutting mf 15% nerf on something

[solemn elm]

type shit

[copper fox]

Guys

Is 3% anything

[frozen glacier]

is 3% more body fat is a lot for a athlete meth?

[green wharf]

Same, 3% is all right, but not nerfing mages is just insane

[latent fossil]

Penis

[frozen glacier]

the meta is around them bro, if a class is strong enough to kill them gets nerfed if not nothing changes

doesnt matter if a frost of ray that a mage can blink while channeling it melts you

[exotic forge]

The nerf won't change much

[lavish quest]

Slowly climbing

Slowly

[solemn elm]

nice

[novel crater]

IM DONE

50/50

I can q shuff now

[frozen glacier]

is yours ?

[lavish quest]

He returned (after 1 month) with GLORIOUS NEWS

Congrats big man

[copper fox]

Nice what comp

[lavish quest]

Kitty

Felt pretty good, but probably cuz the feral was insane

And we deleted some rogues

[solemn elm]

yeah :]

[copper fox]

Nice kitty is fun

[solemn elm]

keep it up leland

1800 to almost 2100 is pretty good

[frozen glacier]

so cute

[lavish quest]

Well I started at 1860-1880 ish. But we went 13 wins 4 losses

[solemn elm]

that’s massive

you were just owning then

[urban skiff]

oh no

anyways

ah yes, just in time

literally what I'm preparing to play next

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/kNjNyLS.png

Syeg on EU 😔

[elfin surge]

TSG IS SO BACK

HOLYYY

[solemn elm]

W

you fellas crushing

[elfin surge]

I'm versmaxxing

i want that 30% versa

[solemn elm]

yea looks like the move

engi wrists and helmet

and bootalinis and belt

[urban skiff]

play kthuman and you can get to 31%

[elfin surge]

if anything Highmountain tauten

gotta build to be a tank as a melee cleave

so much pve cleave damage

[copper fox]

Did you stream those

[elfin surge]

no

the two teams i did q into were streaming i think

[graceful smelt]

So is Havoc gonna slap real hard now? Can’t really determine if the changes are big or just sound like it

[green anchor]

no

they just make reaver playable in pvp

[lavish quest]

We did fight some team with an unholy who casually did double the damage of everyone else.

We still won, but oh my his damage

[solemn elm]

unholy go crazy

[lavish quest]

Khailby assured me it was bad

[solemn elm]

yea

[green anchor]

Sanlayn or Rider

[lavish quest]

Uhhh... I assume rider? This game was like 5 hours ago, and I didn't know anyone plays sanlayn

[green anchor]

petkick did in 2s but switched off pretty quick lol

[lavish quest]

I feel like the dam diff would have to be decently sizable to give up horsies

[rustic wind]

When is Unholy scary? They don’t have an icon. Is it the neigh 🐴 sound?

[lavish quest]

It's like a crazed eye

And 50000 zombies

Including a big fat one (abomination)

[solemn elm]

LMAO

unholy assault

i don’t mind fixing the gearing guide to have the full versatility stuff might be better for the average person who wants to learn too

probably do that shit later

[rustic wind]

also how do they have 25% more damage than everyone else and nobody cares? even if they go 1-5 they can be 30M dmg and others barely break 22M

[green anchor]

I think it's mostly pad dmg and high uptime

[solemn elm]

just pad damage and crazy single target and i personally think that pres has the hardest time healing unholy dk damage

[split lichen]

holy shit

i just finally tried slayer in shuffle

because it was a full caster lobby

my god

its beautiful

i feel like im not just giga kited and ass

im in love

i almost want to run slayer forever

but i felt like 2x squishier

[green anchor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/W3BFsexJ71eC1uXsXk

[magic wing]

Zerker roar 5 secs now lool

[green anchor]

what do we call it now

half banner?

[graceful smelt]

Tissue

[magic wing]

Do we even play it now

[jovial torrent]

still good, i wish it wasnt even a pvp talent and just baked into zerker roar tho, i like having safeguard, and disarm is good for rogue

[little lava]

on higher mmr i think u can only play slayer on rmp

any other comps colossus is just better cuz of survi

[solemn elm]

vs rmp i would be colossus i want to be as tanky as possible vs them lo

[idle falcon]

i wish they gave us execute charge back for fury

[rustic wind]

Is Intervene reliable? Do I need to face dude I am intervening? I feel like when I use it it works for 1-2s and then stops even if I sit on their face

[jovial torrent]

u need to face them

[solemn elm]

need to intervene always man

shit helps your friend so much

i love pressing that ability

[jovial torrent]

or u mean intervening abilities, once u intervene u need to stay close

if u wana absorb a cheap or somthing

[solemn elm]

in my vod i intervene cheapshots so many times

if not multiple stuns

[rustic wind]

Me too, I just feel it doesn’t work for 6s

[jovial torrent]

i intervene'd a sap which was neat

[solemn elm]

its amazing

and i always intervene kidneys or cheapshots

always so fun

probably the most op ability ever

[rustic wind]

How do you predict those? Rogue running to healer?

[solemn elm]

vs rmp

[green anchor]

it's 10 yds so don't just charge away

run next to your ally

[solemn elm]

type shit if not just step, if not just like insight

[jovial torrent]

its a shame trap triggers so fast , u have to like already be on your ally before trap even goes out, and even then it feels like it prios healer somtimes anyway

[green anchor]

interpose however is garbage

[solemn elm]

interventing trap is hard

and ya interpose is not real LMAO

[jovial torrent]

yeh ,it used to be pretty consistant, but trap is just too quick now to trigger

[solemn elm]

just better off bannering

[jovial torrent]

it used to land then take a sec to activate now it pops on contact

[deep stream]

Intervene reflecting pog

[solemn elm]

type if not just stacking on the boy

[split lichen]

okay i tried slayer again

i literally have never insta died so many times

i will be going back to colo

[jovial torrent]

it is kind of crazy how even as colosus, with 50% dmg reduction from dstance , 5% passive and 10% demolish 15% from vers u can still die pretty quick

[wheat jay]

True

[rustic wind]

dstance = 15%

[wheat jay]

Fucking devourers eh?

[jovial torrent]

isnt d stance nerfed to 10 in pvp

[wheat jay]

[solemn elm]

yea

i just got unholy dk'd earlier too

its so fair

[rustic wind]

isn’t it 15% both received and done?

[solemn elm]

7 million compared to 5m from me and my sp and their shit warrior doing 3.4m

but i got unholy dk'd :)

[jovial torrent]

i keep seeing ppl on forums reddit ect complain dk is weak, literally every dk i go against gaps everyone on dps by 10% atleast

then theres frost ww one tapping someone and pillar camping between

[rustic wind]

How does Frost have such burst? Isn’t it 30% dmg up (strength = damage)?

[lavish quest]

I've been trying slayer vs them to try and kill them before we lose

[solemn elm]

dont do that

play to live

as much as you can

its better to live and play to live instead of just die instantly

[split lichen]

yeah, i tried that just now and got rocked. playing to live as colo will be my move forever now

even tho slayer felt really fun

[solemn elm]

always

[split lichen]

actually melting people

[solemn elm]

but we cant do that

we have to play to live

play to peel the goes

and play to live, and youll win eventually

[split lichen]

so the move to only play slayer into a full caster/ranged lobby for solo shuffle?

[solemn elm]

type shit

[split lichen]

because I did it prior and it went CRAZy

I was melting people like never before

but then I did it again just now

and got melted before i melted them

[solemn elm]

yea

it just depends

im colossus always honestly

[split lichen]

what are the use cases

ah isee

[solemn elm]

i just like being tankier

and demolish is really strong

[jovial torrent]

yeh the more i play it, the more im like kind of need to play colosus every single game , and instead of sending demolish on mage, stun demolish swap healer/rogue

[split lichen]

me too but man. it felt so good to have consistent damage besides burst windows

[rustic wind]

Me too but I consider making an exception for mages

[jovial torrent]

that 5% reduction needs to be deleted from colosus and just baked into warrior tree

[rustic wind]

Def stance is 15% reveived and done no?

[jovial torrent]

im sure its been nerfed in pvp since like legion

[split lichen]

wait is the cook to go slayer and just be in def stance the entire time

holy

am i cooking

[rustic wind]

Switch battle for bstorm

[rustic wind]

I’d bet it’s 15%

[deep stream]

Its 15

On both in pvp

[jovial torrent]

nice, it used to be nerfed in pvp

[deep stream]

It was

They keep changing it

Alot

But atm

Its 15

It was 10/10

N 20/20

[jovial torrent]

yeh it used to be 20/10 but nerfed to 10 in pvp

[deep stream]

They had lots of variants

[deep stream]

Yes

[solemn elm]

ill throw up a stream with this warrior sp

[deep stream]

It was broken 20/10

[jovial torrent]

nicuuu , i watch

[solemn elm]

also i miss it in legion

it was so broken lol

u just camped that shit forever

it had no downside

[jovial torrent]

remember when it used to make a crappy alliance shield when u used it

[solemn elm]

yep

if not horde one

[jovial torrent]

took so long to remove that

[solemn elm]

i was belf then

live now C:

[green anchor]

holy shit I hated that lol

[deep stream]

Ill tune in for a bit before i start my games

[jovial torrent]

doing shuffles or u got some 3v planned

oh nvm i see its 3v3

[rustic wind]

15%/15% is a healthy balance imo

[wheat jay]

Ive been thinking wouldn't you wanna play the cs giving ss talent?

[jovial torrent]

u do

u almost never really need to cast SS unless u somehow have 100% uptime

[wheat jay]

Nah i meant into dk to have demolish evrry 20s xD

Pve rotation kinda

2target cleave like its m+

[solemn elm]

it’s good but remember shit happens and hard to get it every 20s

choppah gets kited and such

they be gettin on the horsey and runnin away you know

[deep stream]

Fk dem horsies

[jovial torrent]

horsey right out of spear 😭

i just wish slow immunities were tracked by blizz

i wana be able to see duration of hunter freedom, flap ect

[solemn elm]

lol yea but itd be cooked

unless you want more information overload

x.x

[jovial torrent]

1 extra icon wont hurt

atm it really only shows big walls and big cd

[solemn elm]

i would track hunter freedom before