pvp

[solemn elm]

check this out

no way i just found someone else using this addon

check it out the literal acog scope from cod 4

this can’t be real

i don’t even know what your ability’s even are @green wharf

[copper fox]

Lmfao

wtf

[spice hornet]

I’ve seen that before

[solemn elm]

i can’t even tell what the fuck any of his abilitys are

[spice hornet]

70 year old
Boomer that drinks keystone lights all day used a terrible like that

Reticle

[solemn elm]

bro i have a few things to say to you after this shuffle

holy fuck

i mean i’ll take it it’s somewhat max crank i guess

[spice hornet]

Not surprised Syeg uses that to be honest

[solemn elm]

lmfao he’s actually not doing bad but i have a few things to say

nice work

bro in the nicest way possible why do you have that shit i cannot tell what the hell even are your ability’s LMFAO

and then also, play shatter there

[spice hornet]

When I last watched him play he didn’t have that

I wonder where he found it

[green wharf]

i changed the icons

[solemn elm]

i know

but i literally do not know what theyabre

cause they’re like i don’t know

i’d have to watch you more

that last round you did great stuff

[green wharf]

[spice hornet]

Syeg doesn’t move his character properly

[solemn elm]

but imagine you were slayer and you just had more uptime

i detest the acog scope but do you lose your target easily i guess that’s why

[green wharf]

i have problems with that, me fingers dont go along with my head

[copper fox]

No one does

99% of vods we get here

[solemn elm]

play shatter there syeg and be slayer

[copper fox]

I see missed globals

[green wharf]

like, there is also the delay of playing in SA

[lavish quest]

I do, the way I do it is right

[solemn elm]

my favorite thing are the people who do W and S

truly my favorite

[green wharf]

i actually got shatter last game

but our healer wasnt very good

[solemn elm]

shoulda been it that round

you woulda won sooner ya fool

[green wharf]

and the DH died

[solemn elm]

be shatter always vs mage

who’s gonna stop you there

[green wharf]

i also was running dragon charge

vs a warlock

cause his tps were so fucking long

only that i could reach him

[solemn elm]

head scratcher there man you just like to troll yourself i think

just, charge port, leap gate

probably just using your mobility wrong

[green wharf]

dunno his port was so far away

and there was so much slow

with Dragon i was up to his butt no time

i guess it does work at higher levels

[solemn elm]

idk headscratcher there, i just don’t see any use for that talent other than blitz

would have just leaped just as fine on him

can also just literally pay attention to when he gates or when he’s far from it and just spear him too

entirely a possibility

[pastel swan]

I just watched a pres and dk carry an aff lock against mag just gripping mag off cd after charging and pres rescuing it was so tilting to watch lol

[solemn elm]

yup

that’s the life lol

just rescue bein rescue + dk

so long as you can survive, you’ll win the long game etc

[pastel swan]

Double gate doesn’t help

[solemn elm]

trust me ik

[green wharf]

i need to get a new keybord thats for sure

[pastel swan]

Mag wasn’t playing disarm. I would against uhdk it’s good this ssn

[solemn elm]

but just think of it as using their externals and using their mobility it’s just what they gotta do, unfortunately they gotta do stuff it’d be like if we didn’t wall or parry and just flopped

and disarm vs dk is alright, i’m usually just smth else though unless it’s frost

[pastel swan]

Oh ya. I play lock so ik the struggle against warrior

[green wharf]

i baited 2 people into pillars outside of the healer then shockwave and demolish, it was pretty fun

[solemn elm]

great job

[pastel swan]

I heard it’s good bc they can’t putrefy during their abom or something

[green wharf]

it was like "im not trapped here with you, you are trapped here with me"

[solemn elm]

just can’t death strike cause they disarmed which is really good

op to do low

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

[pastel swan]

Also death strike but they can’t do most of their rotation disarmed

Last ssn it was everything meaningful except for coil

[solemn elm]

eh i hardly even like do it it feels worthless cause of coil

[green wharf]

yeah, but unholy is pretty weak right now

[solemn elm]

they can just coil thru

but ya unholy not too good

[green wharf]

you can just tclap him and forget he exist

[solemn elm]

or bad

[pastel swan]

Uhdk does so much dam it’s weird

[solemn elm]

not good or bad

[pastel swan]

Like scoreboard they do the most

[green wharf]

cause the blizzar ui is fucked

at least it shouldnt be a problem for you as a warrior

[solemn elm]

every one normal just puts it at A most melee are A

[pastel swan]

Oh their scoreboard is wrong? Ik details is

[solemn elm]

except for the cringe outliers that are dumb ass like aug evoker and the cheese u feel me

[green wharf]

they get so many pets that you shove bleed

that you heal a lot with fueled by violence

[solemn elm]

and the scoreboard is wrong when you’re warrior and attacking them

[green wharf]

it quite nice

[solemn elm]

not unholy dk lol

he got that wording confused cus he’s dummy

[green wharf]

[solemn elm]

if ur fighting unholy dk as warrior you’re cleaving very hard on pets but your damage is still very much real, it only looks prettier cause you’re cleaving pets

[pastel swan]

Idk why but I do significantly more dam as slayer than col even in cleave situations

[solemn elm]

cause that bladestorm goin crazy

only reason why i say go colossus vs melee cleave is cause you’re just tankier and they can press tab and shit

wanna take like 5% less from that atleast

[pastel swan]

True

[solemn elm]

trust me i’d be slayer forever but other people darn warriors and shit

can just alternate between

whatever you think is friskier

[pastel swan]

Trying to get my friends geared were playing turbo. We usually play setup comps but we want a comp where we pve a bit more

[solemn elm]

you can set up with that a lot, usually your scariest time is during doomwinds

just give him cross and let him cap stun and crank during doomwinds he gives you lust

people die in a whole ass piss stun

[worldly oriole]

you gonna play aion 2? @solemn elm

[solemn elm]

but if you wanna turn off that brain hop on ret war just hoj healer do dam and don’t even think

i hate these buttons i don’t even know what im looking at

we have a bunch of macros to switch our ability icons but we can’t make intervene and stormbolt 123 macros

last game we send stormbolt on priest on triple dr there too

@green wharf

😭

my goat

[solemn elm]

no 😭😭

[green wharf]

yeah i dont know how to see drs

i just throw stuff

now is blitz time

[latent fossil]

what the fuck is that

[solemn elm]

bro do you not have

intervene

and shit

when you play arena

that’s fucking syegfryeds shit man

[latent fossil]

wtf is that

LMAO

I thought he was playing DK

[solemn elm]

bro were you not using intervene that whole shuffle @green wharf

?

i literally can’t tell with your buttons bro

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/brainless-cancer-diagnosis-brain-cancer-diagnosis-brain-cancer-gif-4920907122808905355

[solemn elm]

dude

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHntC7CWgAURYtc.webp

i’m gonna hop out cause i gotta work but you are truly a human being syegfryed

i love you

[latent fossil]

I love Syegfryed

but it's probably the pic quality

I can't tell what's w hat

[solemn elm]

i was just ss the circl

target thing

[green wharf]

i wasnt

i dont know how to play with intervene

[worldly oriole]

im tryna get on that destiny 2 grind

[latent fossil]

tbh im a dog that mostly uses it to "help" a teammate

I ain't preventing shit, that's why I'm 1900 most of the time

[exotic forge]

My man

Wait until June

The game will come back surely

[worldly oriole]

I missed the game entirely I think lol @exotic forge

[exotic forge]

Its best years are behind it, sadly

But gunplay still feels nice

[green wharf]

ok, enough of pvp today

[solemn elm]

man

press it

you’re trolling so hard not using it

you do so many things that actually just end up cucking you in the end and it’s ridiculous cause you have so many dumb factors that hold you back

[green wharf]

im bad, too much info my brain overload and i crash

important

[solemn elm]

cool :)

but don’t be, don’t over think it, just do damage like you literally were you have the ability to do so

you were owning

you just overthink it a lot

just remember you can use intervene either as an external movement or just to help a friend

[frozen glacier]

wtf is this

[solemn elm]

syegfryeds acog scope target thing

[frozen glacier]

bro i swear i never saw that in my life

how can someone use this

didnt mean to fry you syeg but this is something special

[green wharf]

is from the spy addon

good for open world where you need to know from where the enemies are coming

[frozen glacier]

actually looks cool as hunter

[latent fossil]

Fuck everything, use whatever you want, it's a game

I love you all

[frozen glacier]

you are the best seb

[solemn elm]

me too

but yea, use whatever you want it’s a game i was just poking fun cause i used to have a friend who used to use it too lol

[green wharf]

i need to get the addon that fix tab

[solemn elm]

i believe in you 200% syegfryed just keep it simple and play intervene too 😡

[green wharf]

i always lose myself into it

i will try use intervene tomorrow

[solemn elm]

don’t overthink it, you see friend taking damage up the butt give him one

they’ll thank you

[green wharf]

i need to make the nameplates more visible and put everythign enemy red and everything ally green

[solemn elm]

indeed

[latent fossil]

I'm gay

I'm not

but I'm bored

[green wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YuB8kvR9F64

@sharp meteor are you a forum addict?

[sharp meteor]

Perhaps.

[green wharf]

i only have 10k

and 4k on the pr-br forum

[spice hornet]

Kennie #1 forum posts?

[spice hornet]

The what

[green wharf]

the brazilians have their own official forum

[strange nimbus]

Hey guys, FotM reroller warrior here reporting for duty! I see on Murlok that Colossus is still heavily favored over Slayer. So the buffs to Slayer weren't enough to make it BiS? Or has Murlok just not caught up to the meta?

[rustic wind]

both are good, many just prefer Colossus because of the 5% less dmg taken from Mountain of muscle and scars

[green wharf]

col is straigh up better

[strange nimbus]

Demolish is just fun to press too

[green wharf]

for attack and defense, sadly

[rustic wind]

Unless sb consistently disarms you midway

[strange nimbus]

Yeah true but its got more CC protection than most things do. Like on my surv hunter any CC stops boomstick

Which is a dumb button anyway but it is what it is

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/NuQUYYQ8zHU

Man, this video essay is so applicable even in pvp

[green wharf]

whats the tl:dr

[frail lake]

Zugzug

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gets-flung-gif-25527373

[green wharf]

what the fuck is the point of rend now

if whriwlind apply it

and tclap too

come on man

can we have a designer to work on this class

and let the janitor do his job

[sharp meteor]

Arms if you aren't playing clap.

Which you don't in single-target.

[green wharf]

like, let MS apply it

[sharp meteor]

Slayer, anyways.

[green wharf]

lets up our game a bit

so janky

[frail lake]

Cant, ms already applies wounds

[green wharf]

onyl if you crit

[frail lake]

I guarantee you, any more than that on one abilitys coding and itll break completely

[green wharf]

but it doesnt already!!!

[green wharf]

only if the enemy is on 35% hp though

[jovial torrent]

pikaboo playing some warrior 3's btw

[solemn elm]

why do you just give people misinformation here

[frail lake]

Isnt that dude a rogue

[solemn elm]

both are perfectly fine, if you’re playing into casters play slayer if you’re playing into a melee cleave you can play colossus

[frail lake]

I think colo is better for both

[solemn elm]

syegfryed is like legit 1400 trying to give out misinformation man that shit makes me mad

[green wharf]

but is it not?

[solemn elm]

and no

[green wharf]

[solemn elm]

my friend literally hit a hunter for 153k

as slayer

with execute

[green wharf]

all right i dont speak about it anymore

[frail lake]

I literally oneshot people with Demo into ms

[solemn elm]

if you’re fighting something that is kiting you is it not just better to straight up have the ability to have more uptime

[frail lake]

Whats your point

[jovial torrent]

he is but also plays some war

[solemn elm]

that both are just fine but you want to just be slayer for casters so you can actually move your character aswell as they can’t exactly use something external to get away from you

as you’re just doing damage forever

but if you want to play whatever you like go for it i’m just giving advice

[jovial torrent]

what makes slayer arms more sticky

[solemn elm]

relentless pursuit

[frail lake]

I dont want to be slayer for casters cause my bs wonte do damage since i use it for free movement

[solemn elm]

aswell as a few other things not worrying too much about demolish or anything else really and your executes hit really hard vs casters too

your bladestorm is going to damage as slayer lol

that’s the point

[frail lake]

Demo > Bladestorm

[green wharf]

nah

[solemn elm]

idk i guess whatever works for you more

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/bladestorm-bladespin-blade-storm-spin-gif-14323769

[solemn elm]

just giving advice about both

so you can pick between both

[frail lake]

Ill agree with u on both work, and they both work in any situation

[green wharf]

wish that was our animation

[frail lake]

I just prefer col in every situation

[green wharf]

they should have made us full immune on demolish

and replace CS like the ret big hammer

[solemn elm]

you already are just can be feared or disarmed

[green wharf]

there are some bits that cheese demolish sadly

shadowmeld and feight death are my enemies

[frail lake]

Mage invis too

[solemn elm]

kind of why slayer would be abit more ideal vs hunter too you’d have a easier time touching aswell

and not worry about them just getting away from demolish etc

kind of just have to think about it for a second

[frail lake]

Lets talk about the real issue

Prople just walk out of my spear like it doesnt exist

[solemn elm]

they used an external movement ability that’s y

[green wharf]

yeah i think so too, except BM

cause more bleed

[solemn elm]

can still do that, you’ll be destroying his pets with bladestorms

and reap the storms

don’t have to be colossus for it

[green wharf]

yeah i got the fire mage in my shuffle cheesing my demolish with mass invi

fucker

[solemn elm]

slayer feels absurd into cupid i feel like im cheating

[green wharf]

cupid is what, with ret?

[solemn elm]

ret hunter

[green wharf]

i need a sheet with the name of all of those

[solemn elm]

lmao just ask what it is

[green wharf]

i only know thunder is war+shaman dps

[solemn elm]

there’s both turbo and thunder thunder is ele turbo is with enhance

[frail lake]

Idk why people dont just say the class names

[solemn elm]

easier to say that and just what people know

after like years

[frail lake]

Ive heard of atleast 3 different combinations when someone said jungle cleave

[solemn elm]

whatever other combination they speak of that isn’t just feral druid and hunter

they’re lost

some of them kind of make sense together like thug cleave or some shit hunter rogue cause it’s like guns and knives

shadow play cus they cast shadow ability’s n shit warlock and shadow priest

[frail lake]

Ill never understand it and ill never care, tbh

Just name the god damn speccs

Why is arms not the "cleave" part when its literally a warrior ability

[green wharf]

i know walking dead is unholy+ww

[solemn elm]

usually it is called turbo cleave so we do got one

[solemn elm]

yea but not alotta people playin that one oldest comp in the west

no lie

that i rarely see

can work a little bit though cause i mean dk grips in the enemy and friend ww presses sweep

321 go

[green anchor]

how do priests get out of spear?

fade?

[solemn elm]

fade

yeh

[green anchor]

piece of shit

[solemn elm]

straight, can’t fade again for abit anyways

[green anchor]

thing lasts like 1 sec but it's so annoying

[frail lake]

What do you call frostmage + subrogue?
Instadeath? Deletus?

[solemn elm]

rmp

rogue mage

[frail lake]

Priest

Yes

So we name the clases here

But for everything else we got stupid synonyms?

[solemn elm]

some of them have just the class name some of them have something else

[urban skiff]

any mobility works as long as you use it while the spear is yanking you

[jovial torrent]

whoever makes them popular names them, is what it is, even tho its kind of stupid somtimes

[solemn elm]

basically

[green wharf]

Cringefest

[solemn elm]

you stupit

no i not

what’s 9+10

[frail lake]

21

[green anchor]

910

[green wharf]

what the hell is that

[rustic wind]

Can you switch pre-arena? Even if, don’t you need different Arms talents for the specs? Eg Slayer benefitting from execute talents which I don’t take for Colossus

Anyway I enjoy the 5% dmg nerf when sitting in a nova getting teepdhroated with iciles against my will

Extra mobility seems nice tho

And bladestorm not being a damage nerf

[shut tangle]

Hey guys, is slayer what we should be playing now or col?

Please @ me

2.1 cr rn

[fickle forge]

These are like femboy/trans memes

[robust hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-femboy-femboy-typing-typing-silly-femboy-typing-gif-7417955713929304206

[tight rain]

Got 2.3 yesterday as Colo but I was holding Demolish until I could really kill someone

[frail lake]

What bracket

[tight rain]

Solo shuffle

[robust hearth]

[jovial torrent]

whats the q time like up there

[frail lake]

You didnt get tired of them range only lobbys?

[tight rain]

I got lucky and only 20min Q and only 1 ranged per lobby

Meta is healing haha

[frail lake]

Only 1 range per lobby? Godsend

[tight rain]

Last week I had minimum 1 frost mage + another range per lobby

[frail lake]

My average lobby is me, 2 Priester (maybe 1 preservation) frostmage, bm, warlock, deva or ddh

[tight rain]

One was the 3 specs of mage lol

And 2 days ago 1 destro lock, 1 frost mage and 1 Ret and me, the lock won 6-0

[frail lake]

Thats crazy

[tight rain]

Also both healers were below 300cr of DPS cr

Not a single dispel in the 6 games haha

The lock still played really well

[frail lake]

I once got scammed by my own teammate

Played with an evoker, was about to kill someone

Guy grabbed me to move himself and then died himself

[frail lake]

No Dispells cause bro was busy healkng the 200k chaosbolts on 2 targets ig

[tight rain]

That happen when the one who can kick is full poly fear root

[rustic wind]

Is it worth taking Rebound against destro loccs? To full face em a chaos bolt outside of coil

[tight rain]

I'm a criminal and take wrecking throw cd reduction

[frail lake]

Depends on what else they run. If you reflec useless spells cause of the ammount of spells hitting you its a downside cause of longer reflect cd imo

Good locks also anticipate the reflec in the first place so.. meh, try it see if u like it i gueds

[lofty flume]

whats the name of this addon btw?

[solemn elm]

before the arena starts

[solemn elm]

that is solare of astora from dark souls 1

good friend ☹️

[solemn elm]

you can create two different talent load outs for either one before the game starts :) always been able to switch your talents before the game starts

[rustic wind]

TIL

[solemn elm]

also rebound is horrid

not the move to sacrifice one of your talents it makes reflect also longer cd kind of sucks

sometimes you can get a lil good reflect off but it’s alright to just press cause it gives you 20% less magical damage, somethin atleast while you waddle away

[solemn elm]

whatcha mean til

[strange nimbus]

Hey guys if you get a heroic strike proc and MS is off CD? which do you press first?

Also

Is there any reason to press Rend

when thunder clap applies it

?

lIke do i really need 2 keybinds for these

[solemn elm]

mortal strike always and nah you can remove rend from your bars

[strange nimbus]

Thanks!

[rustic wind]

Today I learned

[solemn elm]

oh lol

yea always switch up your talentos before the game starts based on what you’re fighting

go up like 100+ points cause of that

[tight rain]

You can create a macro to use rend or tclap if you have learn tclap, I'm not on the pc to put it so you don't need to change it every time

[urban skiff]

It's WoW arena logs, a web app that also has a local app you can download. Not an addon, you upload your combat logs and get all kinds of interesting data to work with

[strange nimbus]

Does arms play different talents on the class/spec tree depending on colossus or slayer?

[cunning roost]

Is prot pvp viable after the buffs?

[jovial torrent]

dont look at him billy, hes a prot

[solemn elm]

only thing that changes is the rotation more or less

and you just wanna change if you wanna have shatter or wrecking throw or not

[strange nimbus]

Oh ive just been doing the same thing except pressing bladestorm as slayer when I would press demolish as colossus

[solemn elm]

yup

when the blade storm is quite yellow and you have everything ready

hits quite hard

unstoppable aswell

[strange nimbus]

I pretty much open with (excluding CC globals):

Spear>avatar>colossus smash>bladestorm

[solemn elm]

you pretty much already got it

yep looks good

wonderful

[strange nimbus]

What do you mean by quite yellow

[solemn elm]

just 3 stacks of imminent demise

when it lights up

[strange nimbus]

Should I be holding it for that?

[solemn elm]

heck nah

send that shit

it’s going to do a lot of cleave and big dam

[strange nimbus]

Slayer definitely feels better to me as a newbie because my go cant really be stopped

[solemn elm]

if it’s close, and you can line them like c smash and imminent demise up, get out like a little mortal strike or two and then send it

since your anger management gives it c smash cdr

[strange nimbus]

Right now im literally just sending all my CDs every 1.5m and then using smash once in between them

[solemn elm]

wouldn’t hurt nobody

yep

thats pretty good

[strange nimbus]

Is there anything I should know about where like

I want to MS before or after something else

Because it gets buffer or something

Im just sending it on CD

[solemn elm]

if execute lights up press it cause you get that cool buff from executioners precision, if execute lights up still press cus that shit hits hard as hell

and then just press mortal strike always don’t wait for 2 stacks

[strange nimbus]

Yeah my prio is basically:

Execute
MS
Heroic Strike
Overpower
Slam

[solemn elm]

yee u got it

[strange nimbus]

Awesome thanks!

[solemn elm]

it’s mostly just tiny things that add up by then like, doing good fears, hitting the right guy and using your utility right

you already got the damage down

[strange nimbus]

Yeah i have a few glads on a different class so I know the arena mechanics reasonably well I just dont know this particular class

Just takes reps though

[solemn elm]

yea you got that

[green anchor]

any Zerchers in chat

Enh pumps like crazy in blitz

[urban skiff]

sup?

[urban skiff]

We're pretty brutal everywhere that we aren't the main focus

[green anchor]

don't even need to be the main focus

just getting disarmed on doomwinds is enough

[rustic wind]

I do that with the pvp talents, only one I keep is the sharpen blade one, and I take berserker rage most of the time. For melee I take disarm, melee partner I take improved intervene sometimes

[solemn elm]

mhmm mhmm :) nice

thats good

just make sure you switch up your normal ones too, depending if you gotta take shatter and such you know

[green anchor]

ok shaman can burrow out of spear

[solemn elm]

indeed

[green anchor]

😩

[wheat jay]

I had dk just walk out

Spear is scam

Can we have aftershock?

So we at least pack a punch lol

[green anchor]

what was aftershock again

[wheat jay]

Big slap forward

Knocked down

Left ground effect that pulsed dmg, gave rage, and did small knockdowns every 2s for 0.5s

[green anchor]

which expansion?

I don't remember that at all

[strange nimbus]

Wait so if the target is below 20% hp do you just execute every global?

[wheat jay]

Shadowlands

It was a pve thing

[green anchor]

k that explains it

I probably played like 4 months of SL

and mostly S1

[wheat jay]

Wasn't a pvp thing cuz it didn't synergize with arms

But now

Sb demolish aftershock

Would be nuke

[solemn elm]

ye can ms too

[strange nimbus]

So Execute if it lights up>MS>execute when not lit up

if MS is on CD?

but you never execute when its not lit glowing if MS is off CD right

[rustic wind]

Slayer yea? Otherwise MS>lit Execute>Overpower, and Overpower>Execute if on 2 staccs

[strange nimbus]

Also are you guys holding Demolish for max stacks of this or do you just send it?

[rustic wind]

Send with CS alignment

[strange nimbus]

Ok so as colossus you legit never press anything at all if you can press MS

?

[rustic wind]

Aye

[strange nimbus]

Thanks!

that seems more fun tbh

[rustic wind]

MS hits like a truck and gives less healing

[magic wing]

Idk wtf Im doing wrong but in blitz slayer feels like trash

Compared to colo

You do dmg only in execute

And at that point who cares

[strange nimbus]

So you dont even care about stacking this?

[solemn elm]

don’t have to stack it twice

can go for just one it suffices

[rustic wind]

0-1 stack MS every 4s > 2 stack MS every 6-7s

The stack is a bonus, not a prerequisite

Too much math

Zug zug mortal strikes on cooldown

I’d only consider mathing if Demolish kept adding 100% crit chance, bcs then you could delete clothes

But with 15% it’s too volatile and actually simplifies the decision

MS on cooldown, that’s it

[magic wing]

I remember Baj stacking some ridiculous one shots in BfA with EP lol

Cant do any of that now

[rustic wind]

Those ultra stack big numbers are stream porn but not reliable for actual play

Turn off numbers is underrated advice

[magic wing]

Yeah true

[magic wing]

For less visual clutter ?

I dont even notice the numbers tbh

[urban skiff]

If I could turn of ratings/mmr/cr/etc I would

[magic wing]

Its not like classic

[urban skiff]

Just tell me my numbers every week on reset day

[rustic wind]

Yea. AdvancedInterfaceOptions and just turn off all outgoing and incoming dmg

And healing

[magic wing]

Ill do that fuck it

[jovial torrent]

u can turn off rating numbers

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1t6lvit/what_is_considered_decent_rating_at_the_moment_in/

[magic wing]

Retail numbers arent satisfying anyway

[urban skiff]

Apparently being a 1500 player is decent right now?

[green anchor]

deleting someone because they're cloth is not really a thing anymore

blizz buffed armor for cloth classes a lot in tww I believe

[magic wing]

The rating Im currently at is decent

[green anchor]

in pvp

[magic wing]

Below is plebs

And above no lifes

Very easy distinction

[rustic wind]

Deleting might be a strong word but I did have 180k+ crits MS on mages

But it’s rare and relying on it is suicide

[green anchor]

yeah doable on mages only

maybe shadow priest too

healer priests have a perma wall on them

warlocks kinda too

[rustic wind]

Warlocks are weird. Can’t do shit to them first minute and a half, then they suddenly crumble in pieces

[green anchor]

I think they're just tanky all the time

outside of pact and resolve

they perma share dmg taken with their pet or something idk

[solemn elm]

67 seconds

[solemn elm]

no lol

[urban skiff]

there was another post saying 1600 in 3s feels like 2100

which I hope not, because we're at 1700 already and it's just a short grind to GLADIATOR ZERCHER

[solemn elm]

in the nicest way possible you are better than like half of those people you see post on reddit

[wheat jay]

most

people posting on reddit are actual animals

[solemn elm]

yep

[urban skiff]

If I ban just 2 more redditors I'll be a third of the way to buying a gallon of E85 "petrol" in the US.

Ok I'm kidding, but also.. what the hell

[urban skiff]

I just went looking for this and then I found the other stuff

[green anchor]

You make money from posting on reddit?

[urban skiff]

Apparently

[solemn elm]

what you be posting on there

i want gladiator zercher more than anything

and gladiator morthrang too

a couple

[magic wing]

Idk last time I did shuffle both teams had atleast 1 glad

[solemn elm]

theyre just necessary for the culture

[magic wing]

But that was like 2 weeks ago

[magic wing]

Indeed

[urban skiff]

Tbh I don't post, I occasionally make comments but mostly I'm just keeping things somewhat tolerable

[jovial torrent]

they really need to nerf pres, taht shits disgusting

[urban skiff]

They just need to add charge system to spammable cc

[jovial torrent]

cant leave some healers with spammable cc then buff their hps to be better than anyone else

[solemn elm]

dat shit op

we need choppah pres

[urban skiff]

I have an aug

[solemn elm]

are we on mini choppah ?

[urban skiff]

I keep meaning to try out pres

[jovial torrent]

i hate the god damn wimp dragons and dh

[solemn elm]

when we play

[wheat jay]

choppah, dont worry

be happy

its all good

[solemn elm]

lol

[wheat jay]

we'll all be gladiators

[solemn elm]

bless

[jovial torrent]

made like 80k gold so far grinding gear for my priest/war 👍

[solemn elm]

dont stop putting in this effort

and learning

[wheat jay]

no excuse me for a second while i try to pull all the possible strings to get r1 teammates for my glad push

[wheat jay]

moneymaker

[solemn elm]

LMAO if i was eu

id try to help

but i also play warr

[wheat jay]

id just play devourer lol

[solemn elm]

type shit

[jovial torrent]

i should spend my conquest tbh, 1700 on a priest with 4k conquest and no int enchants isnt ideal

[wheat jay]

warr+devourer will be like s tier now

[solemn elm]

LOL def not ideal

spend yo shit

but dont copy ahh markers man

copy actual priests

like bigvuqoffdam

[jovial torrent]

i should start trying holy , just being lazy and grinding conquest

[wheat jay]

i wonder if blizz will send more balance patches

[jovial torrent]

i need 1.3k onquest and im done on priest

[wheat jay]

for pvp specifically

[solemn elm]

most likely

[wheat jay]

cuz man some specs really need help from god xD

[solemn elm]

i believe we will get nerfed

[wheat jay]

100%

[urban skiff]

I think they will

[wheat jay]

warr is unironically busted s tier now

[solemn elm]

mhmm mhmm

can jsut throw shit at the wall and it works

[urban skiff]

enh gonna catch an accidental nerf

[wheat jay]

ye

bro i was doing 2s with choppah yesterday

[jovial torrent]

lol i wish i recoredd that cusi was reading discord i faced the wrong door

[wheat jay]

bladestorm is busted

[solemn elm]

it might but i think its fine

told ya man that slayer dont play

[urban skiff]

Blizz is monitoring the situation after they fixed the bug that unintentionally gave us more damage, where they gave us a few extra points of damage.

[jovial torrent]

came out 10 seconds late after getting trapped and won

[wheat jay]

slayer with stacked bs and full pop

100-0 in half a bladestorm lmao

[solemn elm]

syegfryeds ah was being like NAHH MANN IT SUCKS

[wheat jay]

bruh

[solemn elm]

im telling you

[magic wing]

Only in arenas tho ?

[solemn elm]

the 3 stacker with everything up

you already know

[urban skiff]

Link build, I just want to play something fun

[wheat jay]

im winning games with 2nd bladestorm of the game on 0 gear warrior xD

[solemn elm]

i got you bro

[wheat jay]

murlok xD

[wheat jay]

?

[magic wing]

Seems weaker than spamming op as colo in blitz

[solemn elm]

morthrang plays some blitz

[wheat jay]

ohh

[urban skiff]

Get me, my warrior is halfway conq capped and I haven't spent anything yet

[solemn elm]

u guys are fucking me up

[wheat jay]

no clue about blitz

[magic wing]

Maybe the dmg splitting

[wheat jay]

i never play that

[solemn elm]

i keep dying in ffxiv

[magic wing]

From bs

[solemn elm]

cause of u guys

in this dungeon

[wheat jay]

lmao

[solemn elm]

playing my samurai again

which is quite literally the arms warrior of this game

[jovial torrent]

we spam 3's today!, my war ur dh pug healer, pew pew

[solemn elm]

omg omg omg

can i watch

[magic wing]

I should get back into ffxiv

[solemn elm]

this discord makes my day

[magic wing]

But dont have the new xpack

[solemn elm]

every day

can wait abit

will be a new one soon

[idle falcon]

hello fleperd

[solemn elm]

howdy

[vapid juniper]

How do you cast Champion's Spear @cursor?
When I use this macro, it doesn't cast Champion's Spear at all, but instead casts the Leap to spear ability:
/cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear

[magic wing]

Yeah and good one it seems

[wheat jay]

you got your warr geared xD?

[jovial torrent]

well i have 3k worth of conquest tokens

[solemn elm]

gonna be really op

[wheat jay]

damn

[solemn elm]

when conq uncaps

[wheat jay]

alright, gonna int some games with choppah today

flep, you can watch, we'll get you a chair in the corner

[urban skiff]

THE COOK CHAIR

[solemn elm]

LMAO

you aint gon int

[urban skiff]

He be sittin' in the corner, stirrin' the pot

just watching the stew

[north thicket]

flep, most warrs are still playing col as default right?

[urban skiff]

will this shit please drop faster in price

I'm trying to build a pc for my kid here

[solemn elm]

LOL damn

[jovial torrent]

theres no way it drops in price

[wheat jay]

watch me

[solemn elm]

thats a big processor

[wheat jay]

brother i aint gonna drop

[jovial torrent]

unless some country magically finds some oil somwhere other than middle east

[wheat jay]

unless you wanna wait 5 years

or chinese make another breakthrough

[solemn elm]

you can alternate between them both now, if youre fighting like a melee cleave its okay to be colossus, if youre fighting casters switch up to slayer

[north thicket]

got it

[urban skiff]

it's a continuous flight down, just dropped again this week

[wheat jay]

fair enough then

[jovial torrent]

how are ssd's looking, are they going down

[north thicket]

maybe it will tank sooner than people expect - likely by year end, next year everything will be on sale

[urban skiff]

only in australia

[north thicket]

except food

[jovial torrent]

eurgh cus thats what i need atm is another ssd

[urban skiff]

this was nvme

[solemn elm]

ssds arent much to be fair compared to most stuff recently

[north thicket]

Zercher when are you joining the euro

[urban skiff]

Literally never

We have nowhere to put our king, if we get rid of coins

[north thicket]

he is going to be on the euros

Sweden is likely coming in

[urban skiff]

We signed a pact where we agreed to do Euros. But never said when

Sweden joining EU?

[north thicket]

Eurozone

[urban skiff]

ram price dropping, like I called it 1½ months ago

let's goo

[north thicket]

you know your king is German right?

[urban skiff]

With a french father or what?

[north thicket]

yes, call it Frankish ancestry

[stuck mulch]

when

[north thicket]

you are coming to the Eurozone

[wheat jay]

evening probably lmao

you wanna join flep on the chair?

[wanton depot]

should i run my fury with full mastery? some guides say nice split between them, pins say pure mastery? Gearing my warrior now for arena. Thanks

[rustic wind]

Fury ain’t doing haste?

once I had a taste of staccing haste I feel everything else is a waste bcs rotation moves slow like a thicc paste

[jovial torrent]

u dont have full uptime so when ur on u wana hit hard

[rustic wind]

the Slayer-Colossus ratio ✨

[rustic wind]

ye but can barely do a single gcd. and Mortal strike can cost you life before you can DbtS

[jovial torrent]

" Fury ain’t doing haste?" thought we were talkin about fury

[solemn elm]

not da move

you want that mastery

mastery = more damage during enrage more damage during enrage guy die faster

[stuck mulch]

hell yeah

[rustic wind]

Arms mastery = more damage all the time, yet people hoard haste

In Fury I guess it’s the bursty window and better scaling

[solemn elm]

cause slow globals really really really suck as arms, you also don’t have enrage giving you haste and movement speed

you’re just slow

[jovial torrent]

i assume arms goes haste for more ms, more bled more procs

[solemn elm]

more haste= more ms

[rustic wind]

Haste just feels good on arms too

[solemn elm]

the slow globals are very crap

exactly

[jovial torrent]

does it speed up demolish too

[solemn elm]

mhm

you won’t notice it much cause it’s just our normal stats but let zercher give you lust and cast it it’s fast as shit

[rustic wind]

Troll racial + Demolish haste buff is just 😩

[jovial torrent]

please just delete racials already and rebalance the damn game

[solemn elm]

also get 15% after bladestorm as slayer

and yes i’d like that too

[rustic wind]

And lose fotm race roll money? No thx

Gnomes should have 10% less stamina

[wheat jay]

they should remove then in pvp only

make them a passive thing

or a selectable bonus

give it lore reason of makgora no cheating with racial traits

or whatever

[green anchor]

just disable them in instanced pvp

simplest thing

[lavish quest]

2100 mmr now cuz the thrower luck lately unreal

[jovial torrent]

did they buff dev, seen alot of them today, and doing crazy dmg

[pseudo herald]

Na, just them stats from full gear and 298 weapon+trinket

When they can just freecast the mass suckisuck dmg is absurd

[lavish quest]

Yes, 2 expansions ago

[slender pelican]

chud dragon hits you with his goybeam and disintegrates your future social security funds

[jovial torrent]

how can they not freecast when they can dash and cast on move lol

[lavish quest]

Peepo_Dead

[wheat jay]

unslowable unkiteable untouchable piece of shit spec

all with spammable cc

[jovial torrent]

too much stuff makes them immune to stuff

[wheat jay]

ye

[lavish quest]

Hover freedom needs to fuckin go

Or make it like poe2 sprint where if I do hit you, you fall and get stunned for a few seconds

[jovial torrent]

their cc immunity lasts too long aswell

they land but they are still immune for a sec

[lavish quest]

I would say 24/7 is too long yes

hmmNod

[fallen estuary]

This

[green anchor]

been like this since TWW tbh

[jovial torrent]

i didnt see many of them till this week really

now they are everywhere

gettin like pres dev lobbies

[slender pelican]

i had two double dragon lobbys ln that made me want to relapse

[magic wing]

Ngl

Dragon is the worst class in the game

Somehow always the biggest pos in the match lol

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

which one

[idle falcon]

void

the fact that u can barely see it means it's floof is big

[wheat jay]

lmao

my void woke me up at 3 fucking am

by biting my foot that was hanging off the bed...

then again at 5:40 to go outside to shit

bro

sleep is illussion

[rustic wind]

Yall take Shattering throw against mages/hpals or depends? And do you take Wrecking throw against discs/shadows/locks? and do you take the pvp throw talent alongside?

[wheat jay]

shattering into mages and hpals is good

and rets

wrecking throw into locks is goated as well

but afaik pvp talent for its not rly played

[rustic wind]

Makes Wrecking throw have 22.5s CD and 225k+ base damage

[solemn elm]

always

demolition is op yea but i like storm of destruction + banner instead just so i can move my character + also reduce cc for friends

always shatter vs mage paladin

you can also shatter time stop

[rustic wind]

What’s time stop?

Shatter lights up at seemingly random times, for DKs

[solemn elm]

evoker ability that stops time completely on the friend kind of like bubble

but you can’t do stuff in it and evokers can use it on friends

[rustic wind]

Started playing a month ago after a decade of hiatus, takes forever to catch up

[urban skiff]

shatter also kills ice walls

instantly

[solemn elm]

and it’s cus of their absorbs don’t worry about that if not you mighta been fighting a little priest and they were just getting absorbs

yea it’s alright to shatter ice wall by the time the cast finishes i woulda just gotten like 3 over powers and killed it

but i guess it depends i just wouldnt shatter that i would rather shatter block

https://tenor.com/view/nailong-dwerk-batman-gif-18151222034246323654

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHntC7CWgAURYtc.webp

[latent fossil]

WHAT

[copper fox]

lol

[latent fossil]

[green wharf]

weird that we cant shatter turtle

[jovial torrent]

priest capped, time to take a break after like 4 hours of solo shuffle

got 75k in augment runes and 72x 50 conquest token

[pastel swan]

It also pauses CDs during it. But healers can’t heal them while they’re in it kinda like cyclone.

[green wharf]

i need a NA healer to play with my warrior and a friend mage

2h in the lfg

[wheat jay]

Cuz its deflect not immunity

Same as parry is not dodge

[green wharf]

tf when hunters can parry better than warriors

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-reggie-vs-iwata-reggie-fils-aime-satoru-fight-gif-24920256

meanwhile ww monks

[green anchor]

can't do dmg tho

[elfin surge]

okay so I got to q a few games of 3s yesterday

Colossus way better

[copper fox]

Why

[elfin surge]

dont die

[copper fox]

Valid

What about 2s

[elfin surge]

I only played slayer against mages

[elfin surge]

slayer feels fine

better than colossus? maybe

[copper fox]

I’m going to play ret war this weekend as arms I was also thinking colo or slayer

[wheat jay]

Its not parry

[copper fox]

So good timing

[wheat jay]

Its deflect

[elfin surge]

its really good rn

[latent fossil]

peanut

[wheat jay]

I'm going devourer fury probably

With choppah today

[latent fossil]

[copper fox]

This comp does so much dmg its very glass cannon tho

Santi plays it

[wheat jay]

Yep

[green wharf]

got one devourer in my shuffle last night he did big damn with me, but did nothing against me

cabal?

[wheat jay]

You tell me

Sounds like you hired him

[hot solstice]

The only ssn turbo is strong ppl play fury/devour…jk

[green wharf]

i wish i cound hire a healer

[latent fossil]

I wish I could hire a hitman

[green wharf]

you should hire a girlfriend

[latent fossil]

[copper fox]

@elfin surge what feels like an issue for ret warr dragon rn?

Rogue?

[elfin surge]

turbo farms it i think

[lavish quest]

But who would play turbo, you'd have to run a warrior

[copper fox]

How does it feel into rmp

[rancid granite]

is fleet footwork that necessary

[green wharf]

if you want to hit people

probably

[rancid granite]

what about war machine

[green anchor]

nope

[wheat jay]

Some people like having fun

And turbo is damp snoozefest

Unless its so overtuned you oneshot every pop

[green anchor]

been watching Zhrey and they usually kill 2nd pop

as turbo

[hot solstice]

Damp? Idk I intervened my buddy disarm so he can shot something with doom winds

Kinda fun, much less damp than thunder at least

[pastel swan]

Laros was saying it was good against everything but ret warr idk

[hot solstice]

War mage is problem aswell

[pastel swan]

They beat kalvish’s rmp several times the other night I watched

[hot solstice]

At least with hpala

[outer spoke]

Is fury better now

[copper fox]

Depends on the bracket

[tight rain]

Arms better until next reset, we are getting nerf for sure

[copper fox]

I think fury is better in ss but I think arms is better in 3s rn

[outer spoke]

❤️

[copper fox]

But

Honestly fractions of a %

Both are insane rn

[green anchor]

playing them makes you go insane too

[copper fox]

Yep

[green wharf]

Fury slayer or thane? i did some bgs with slayer and slayer strike is hitting like a truck

when it does proc

[copper fox]

It’s comp dependent

Thane for cleaves

Thane for bgs too tbh

[green anchor]

that's a Yep

[latent fossil]

I need some tea

[lavish quest]

By insane he mean's it's ight

[rustic wind]

we just got buffed from a miserable damage to on par

[wheat jay]

ye

but warr 100% getting nerfed

cuz its unreal strong xD

[worldly oriole]

cant have something be OP, need to increase playtime

shake my head smh

[copper fox]

No it isn’t

Also

Imagine playing ignore pain

[cunning roost]

Is fury or arms better into mages and other digusting casters?

[copper fox]

Fury is better into casters

[cunning roost]

Is the mmr still capped?

[copper fox]

If you’re using 2400 yea it’ll be hard

Pushing*

Nothing is capped tho under that rating wise

I just qd prot at 2k into people who don’t know how to play the game

So whatever rating you want under elite rn is easy

[magic wing]

elite is 2.3 tho

[copper fox]

Right

[cunning roost]

How did prot feel? I really want it to work but i failed miserably when i tried it in ss

[copper fox]

I used 2400 as a random bench mark

[lavish quest]

Finally crept into C tier.... NERF IT

[copper fox]

Thane felt really strong tbh but you need to literally use everything on cd and be the most annoying mf in the arena

To do well

[lavish quest]

Rogues must not be contested!

[copper fox]

Pre bodyguard

Pre vene

Etc

[magic wing]

how you seen how terrible war is in raid ? let us have something lol

[cunning roost]

Cool that it might be a way to make it work then, did you play during prot´s "glory days" ?

during wotlk and i guess WoD / legion

[copper fox]

No

I was a rdruid in wod

[cunning roost]

I sometimes hear about a prot named memphisrains who dominated as prot warr

[copper fox]

Yea I remember him

[cunning roost]

i think at one point he had like 3k rating as prot, insane

[magic wing]

only prot guy in history is SWIFTY

[cunning roost]

im just curious, because i didn´t play much pvp back then. What was it that made prot so much more viable back then?

[rustic wind]

Prot wins by wearing down the opponent with annoyance

it’s like toddlers

[cunning roost]

But it has to be doing much more dps back then?

[frozen glacier]

good morning

a few more hours of sleep today

[cunning roost]

Don´t know if memphisrains played with the gladiator stance build because that was comparable dps to arms or fury if i recall

[wheat jay]

to be perfectly fair

arms is S tier

fury is S tier

thats all there is to it

will it get nerfed, fuck knows

logic says yes

but rogue is still not nerfed like it should

neither is mage

only devourer got nerfs that actually changed something

xD

[lavish quest]

Against the AFK

Then as soon as a player finds their W Key, war back to C tier

doomed

[magic wing]

Im still baffled how rogue has multiple viable specs in S-A tier in all content

mage atleast has 2 garbage specs

[elfin surge]

LOL

stat bugging prot warrior

yeah real good player

[cunning roost]

Did you know him?

i only read about him on old forum posts

[elfin surge]

they stat bugged playing a tank comp on multiple characters then RMT sold them

[cunning roost]

Whoo, didn´t know about that 😮

[green anchor]

Dekel kekel

is that how he got demonic glad

[copper fox]

Dekel without keyboard hacks is a pve main

Bro mud is STRAPPED with tea screenshots

Literally any time

Something comes up

Mud drops a ss

[green anchor]

Mud should make a slideshow documentary out of them

[elfin surge]

[copper fox]

LMAO

I was being a good guy that day

I don’t think he ever responded

[green anchor]

passed out for the last time

[green wharf]

the deep lore

[elfin surge]

the lore you guys have created for me is something nobody could ever make up

[lavish quest]

Idk... you said it there, not me

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

This is tru

Position is still open

[lavish quest]

I appreciate how that's a old SS saved and not taken again

[elfin surge]

:)

[lavish quest]

Also tru

[green wharf]

this is my favorite

[elfin surge]