pvp

[copper fox]

You guys are ghey af

[fierce elm]

Oh no I am past it lmfao

[wheat jay]

Either way, lfg will be less drama filled than afro and kargisg thats for sure xD

[fierce elm]

It was very simple to just remove it entirely

[wheat jay]

So, we're not playing together and we can just banter and joke here

[fierce elm]

By just not seeing anything said person writes or says, plus muting this chat was a fairly simple choice lmfao

[wheat jay]

Id say its a decent outcome

[frozen glacier]

what a beautiful relationship

[fierce elm]

Im Mythic trialing, focusing on logs, getting my ret up for Kargish and SS

[solemn elm]

bodega cat

[fierce elm]

Then just grab w.e healer tbh if Kargish actually does come back, otherwise we back in the rat race to R1 in SS

I did the smart thing of not burning out early on PvP this season @copper fox

[copper fox]

Can’t burn out of you have no feelings

[solemn elm]

real shit

to everybody here

[frozen glacier]

so cute

angry face

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

that's our fleperd

all my homies love fleperd

[rustic wind]

do yall actually use rend or just tclap? tclap is more range, slows, applies rend and has same CD right?

[green anchor]

ofc

[rustic wind]

I debound rend in favour of tclap so don’t know if I should have fomo or not

[solemn elm]

it’s ok does the same thing

[rustic wind]

how would y’all rate DPS classes/specs by difficulty?

[dusky parrot]

Me after a pack of Marlboro reds

[bright kraken]

yall how cooked is this

is this accurate?

[stark agate]

Rend isn’t on my bars in PvP

[latent fossil]

Fleperd , I love you

No homo

Unless……?

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[bright kraken]

no homo

sounds kinda homophobic

[latent fossil]

I can go no homo or full homo

Sexual

Never phobic

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[copper fox]

The tank part looks pretty accurate

[bright kraken]

What about the rest of it

[lavish quest]

Ret war? @copper fox

[green wharf]

these m+ bros with m gear trying to fight in wpvp

mogged a frost mage 3 times

nerfs incoming boys

[green wharf]

since when frost is a caster

they dont cast shit

[bright kraken]

They cast polymorph

[green wharf]

[copper fox]

Not home rn

[split lichen]

Hello yall I have been away. has anything changed with yesterdays update

Is arms slayer the new goat, or we still chillin in the same spec

Or is it fury o clock

[rancid granite]

theyre all good

[split lichen]

is there 1 that better than another?

[green wharf]

col

[lavish quest]

Me neither meant i meant in general kek

[vocal dagger]

What do you think, guys? Any changes needed for these talents, or are they perfectly balanced?

[rancid granite]

where the rend and second wind

what are these pve talents doin there

[vocal dagger]

I have a feeling that without them I'm lacking rage. And as for Rend, is it really that necessary for Fury? Second Wind doesn't have as much sustain as I’d like. A lot of people skip it in favor of other talents.

[rain bronze]

CAN any1 link a solo shuffle fury slayer build please?<3

[split lichen]

is boots or ring the move for this week?

[urban skiff]

hmmmm

[solemn elm]

you don’t need to have rend as fury and second wind sucks

[rancid granite]

second win is what I call it

good to know tho

[rancid granite]

slayer arms still wants rend for sure ya?

[solemn elm]

ye

CgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDjxMzymZmZmxYmZmZMzMzywMjZmNzMzAAAxMLbjN2ssYmGzMDTmNmhNAzsYsMAYmBzMMGzYYwA

slayer fury

[rain bronze]

ty bro!

[solemn elm]

the rage cap one and the rampage return one is quite worthless

[rain bronze]

ALSO, is slayer arms any goood??

[solemn elm]

and yes it is

[rain bronze]

oooh

link build if u have sir

[solemn elm]

if you’re fighting casters just play slayer, if you’re fighting a cleave play colossus

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DzMzsMzMmZAAAAMMNMmZGLmZmZAzMDAAAAgxiZgtMzYZbWMz2wmhhZmZajmZG2AmxiZZMsMz2gZmZGAmxwA

arms slayer

just like i said if it’s casters just switch if its melee play colossus

[rain bronze]

wow, slayer arms is acutally pumping

won 3 2v2 in a row

[solemn elm]

great job :] max crank

[rain bronze]

❤️

[vocal dagger]

You have Rend in this build. When do you even press it? Do you actually find a window for it in this endless stream of buttons? 😄

And why do you prefer the talent on the left here? The right one (the one selected in the screenshot) gives a 100% chance for an extra Raging Blow stack.

[solemn elm]

when i charge in i whirlwind afterwards so its spread then just do everything else and iunno hack and slash op i forget what the one on the left of that does

feels absolutely disgusting doing that but hey i guess i get my rends out

[vocal dagger]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i didnt know that whirlwind proc the rend

Omg, thx

[solemn elm]

oh cause we don’t have to mash bloodthirst as hard as we would on mountain thane

[latent fossil]

[frozen glacier]

im using this one, almost never pressing bt

rarely i need to press it

[solemn elm]

basically i press it out of habit

i think either one is fine

i mash more rampages than anything of course though

just to go down the tree there

[rustic wind]

do yall have a good targeting guide for warriors for shuffle?

[copper fox]

Casters >

[solemn elm]

i can’t give you a 1:1 guide but it’s gotta be whatever you think you’ll have the most uptime on

[copper fox]

Ideally

[solemn elm]

yup

[copper fox]

But uptime > target

[solemn elm]

if you lose your uptime you fall behind hard as hell

[copper fox]

Some casters you literally just can’t catch

And you lose because you chased them

[solemn elm]

so it’s not worth to lose your momentum by chasing

[copper fox]

But that’s a player by players basis

Not ever mage is created equal

[solemn elm]

yea type shit just hit someone you know you’ll have 100% uptime on and use your own cross cc

[copper fox]

Every

[solemn elm]

yep basically

[copper fox]

You’ll know game 1

[rustic wind]

yea my mates always push me to chase locks and hunters and I can’t do shit if they play with rogue or ww peeling me

[copper fox]

Chase but don’t over chase

Swapping is ok

Then swap back

[rustic wind]

aight so just mash whoever is close and prefer casters

[copper fox]

Matching mobility is the most important thing

[lavish quest]

Kill em before they can get away

apethink

[haughty jewel]

Make sure to get full pvp gear

You dont want any PVE gear

In pvp

Hope this helps

[frozen glacier]

good tip

[rustic wind]

TIL

[frozen glacier]

+800 cr

[solemn elm]

flokko gives very important information

[solemn elm]

is that dih gud

[lavish quest]

Thanks! I managed to break 1k with this tip!

[haughty jewel]

AAuuughh

[solemn elm]

PULL DEM FUCKEN LEGS BACK

😡😡

[solemn elm]

always try to match their mobility with yours don’t leap 2 feet for no reason like i do sometimes, and if you can straight up just walk to them without having to charge even better

and don’t forget your spear has a leap too

[rustic wind]

aye I love spear, just feel embarrassed when I miss it sometimes

[solemn elm]

also another thing to answer your question when you reset your raging blow you get auto attack speed

because of surge of adrenaline

:)

[rustic wind]

do you bait out disarms before opening or just open, eat disarm, continue?

[solemn elm]

i eat it

[copper fox]

Bait out as in

[solemn elm]

if you hold your stuff and wait for them to disarm then you’ll never do anything

[lavish quest]

Opening is the baiting it out

[rustic wind]

do CS without avatar and demolish

[solemn elm]

not good for business

[lavish quest]

Clueless

[copper fox]

Oh no

Never

[solemn elm]

nah

[vocal dagger]

So Hackm and Slash is better choice?

[solemn elm]

don’t do that shit

[solemn elm]

mhm mhmm

[copper fox]

Damage is the only thing a warrior does

If you wait

You lose

[solemn elm]

pretty much have the mindset of i either win this game in literally 30 seconds because they don’t know how to respond to my damage, or you do the same shit but throughout the game and do good damage

[rustic wind]

ok so just go kill thing and wait until disarm goes away

[lavish quest]

Bust your load, get disarmed, go to the forums and complain disarm is OP
$$PROFIT$$

[solemn elm]

yup

[copper fox]

Yea

[solemn elm]

if you get disarmed it is what it is, it’s what they gotta do

not that big of a deal can still like impend or somethin in it you know just to feel somethin

[rustic wind]

thanks, this eases my overthinking

[solemn elm]

never overthink it just go in there and do the most

[lavish quest]

Thinking = lose as warrior

Turn brain off

We use strength, not intellect

Ponder that for a while

[rustic wind]

Is there a 200IQ class where thinking = good?

[solemn elm]

iunno like mage or some shit

but that’s too complicated

[lavish quest]

That sounds like mage behavior

Can we ban this guy?

[spice hornet]

Yeah

[rustic wind]

didn’t say I want to think

I like to not

[lavish quest]

Only two things you should be concerned with

Damage

Lifts

Women is an optional 3rd

[rustic wind]

Nice

[lavish quest]

If you can name 10 books, reroll to another class

[rustic wind]

I can name 20 deadlift variations

[lavish quest]

Your name is normal again

[vocal dagger]

Does it make sense to keep stacking Mastery on Fury if I'm already over 30%? If I’m not mistaken, diminishing returns kick in after 30%.

[lavish quest]

I can't. I just know pick up heavy thing, put it down, repeat

[rustic wind]

Do you Ox lift?

[lavish quest]

Depends on spec sometimes. There's an addon for tracking your DR. Like true stat or something

[lavish quest]

I don't lift oxen. I lift logs

[solemn elm]

10% haste and just mastery forever mastery=more damage more damage=guy die faster

guy die faster= more rating obtained faster

[copper fox]

Go

[solemn elm]

more rating obtained faster=happy

[vocal dagger]

I have 9% 😄

[lavish quest]

Higher rating = more egirls obtained

[solemn elm]

beautiful

[frozen glacier]

on simple words

zug

[solemn elm]

good enough honestly

[frozen glacier]

put some phonk, trance, and smash buttons like this

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedruner-gif-20263880

[clear quiver]

What if it’s the same book just misspelled 10 times?

[vocal dagger]

If the choice is between Conquest rings and PvP crafted ones, which should I go for? The first option gives more Versatility, while the second offers more Mastery.

[solemn elm]

whatever you prefer more, i’d probably just get the versatility cus we die to paper

[rustic wind]

Deadlift
Deficit deadlift
Trap bar deadlift
Deep trap bar deadlift
High trap bar deadlift

Rack pull
Snatch deadlift
Snatch deficit deadlift
Romanian deadlift
Halting clean deadlift

Halting snatch deadlift
Jefferson deadlifr
Zercher deadlift
Hack deadlift
Ox lift

Sumo deadlift
Bulgarian deadlift
Reeves deadlift

..shit you got me

[solemn elm]

yerkin it

[lavish quest]

That sounds like too much thought for pick thing up, put thing down

[clear quiver]

My personal favourite is bench press deadlift

[rustic wind]

I am building a training app, I need to

[vocal dagger]

@solemn elm thank you for advices!

[copper fox]

@rustic wind bruh

Building a training app without block pulls is crazy

[solemn elm]

always

[copper fox]

Block pulls and single leg rdl

Got you

There’s your 20

[rustic wind]

Mechanically equivalent to rack pulls, just the weight is on plates vs bar

[copper fox]

Wait

You named a bunch mechanically equivalent to each other

[rustic wind]

Which ones

[copper fox]

What’s mechanically different with a snatch and a deficit snatch

Both are already increased rom

[rustic wind]

That a deficit snatch deadlift is … from a deficit

[copper fox]

MORE ROM

[frozen glacier]

Am I being ignorant, or do not all deadlifts work the same muscle group?

[copper fox]

isn’t mechanically diff

That’s not mechanically different

[lavish quest]

Who needs rom when you got ram?

[rustic wind]

You shift bias here and there.. erectors, glutes, hams, upper back

Deep trap bar deadlift, zercher deaflift = best for erectors

RDL = glutes and hams

Snatch deadlift = upper back

[copper fox]

Waiting for what’s mechanically different from snatch to deficit snatch

Deficit doesn’t create new mechanics there

[rustic wind]

Same as rack pull vs deadlift

[copper fox]

Exactly

That’s my point

lol

There’s nothing mechanically different

Also

Also rack pull is nothing like a conventional deadlift

So

[rustic wind]

I do count deficit as different mechanics bcs muscle bias changes

You involve quads more in deficit

[copper fox]

How does muscle bias change

No….

What

[rustic wind]

Yea

[copper fox]

If you’re dropping your hips more you completely cooked your deadlift

[rustic wind]

Do a honest to god deep ass snatch deadlifts

[copper fox]

Lmfao brother

I’ve snatch pulled 700lbs

I have

I pull almost 8 in comp

There’s absolutely 0 mechanical diff in a deficit snatch and if you drop your hips to apply more quads you’re no longer doing the movement correctly

[rustic wind]

Nice. I’d expect you to recognise the nuance then

[solemn elm]

if we aren’t talking pvp we are talking about lifting

[clear quiver]

I think mechanically it does make it different due to starting load, and how it can target a muscle putting it under a load at a stretched angle.

[copper fox]

But you’re wrong

That I do recognize

[lavish quest]

Well for you anime girls is the secondary topic usually

[rustic wind]

Take deadlift and deficit deadlift. Deficit does more ass because of sharper hip angle

Allows less weight

[copper fox]

Allowing less weight isn’t a mechanical shift

[rustic wind]

Deadlift = more weight = more traps and back

[copper fox]

Oh my

Ok let’s stick to fury warrior talk

lol

[spice hornet]

Lmfao

[rustic wind]

So defict deadlift = more ass, deadlift = more back

[copper fox]

Ok

So true

[worldly oriole]

deadlift cant be in a deficit because it doesnt eat food @rustic wind

[copper fox]

Good point Tony

[spice hornet]

Wise words of Tony

One of the many

[lavish quest]

Tony out here with the facts

[latent fossil]

Enchilada

[rustic wind]

I appreciate the discussion

Will meditate upon it

[lavish quest]

Tony's squats do find a way to be deficient tho

[vocal dagger]

It feels like a Bajheera fan club meeting in here. :DDD

[elfin herald]

smart people that has a alt warrior reading this chat rn and noticing this place is a asylum

[rustic wind]

@copper fox how do I improve my thoracic flexion? I have good extension but want better back round in deadlifts

[clear quiver]

On a side note, do you have a video of the 700 lbs snatch pull? Not shit talking I love strong man and Olympic lifting and would love to see that, huge passion of mine

[elfin herald]

do you guys recommend steroids too?

[rustic wind]

No. Not healthy

[clear quiver]

Eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up.

[copper fox]

For my athlete who pulls 900lbs.. the best thing we do was heavy upper back work 3x a week and it improved his dramatically. No squat university type shit

[copper fox]

I could find it yea it’s deep on the gram

I don’t do strongman tho

[clear quiver]

That would be awesome, yeah I grew up watching the Highland Games with my parents and it transitioned into a love for strong man

[copper fox]

I mean… men’s inevitable decreased testosterone levels is what leads to men’s high risk of cardiovascular disease lol

Sooooo

Steroids? Probably not but can’t hate on trt for old men (40+)

[rustic wind]

SquatU is a doofus that spreads glassback propaganda

[copper fox]

That we can agree on lol

You coach strongmen? Or Gen pop

[rustic wind]

Genpop

[copper fox]

Nice, better off there’s no $ in coaching strongmen anyway lol

Not bad for a side thing but

[rustic wind]

Well I only have two paying users rn 😭 app is lit but now am working on native apps for user experience

[copper fox]

What’s the app? I use TrainHeroic for my athletes

[rustic wind]

https://gainwagon.com

[copper fox]

I’ll check it out in a bit when I get home

[rustic wind]

Has progression algorithms for strength and hypertrophy aimed at beginner-intermediates, charts, and you can pick starter templates or create own ones using an editor

Just need to polish UX and sell it somehow

[elfin herald]

very clean, does it have regional blocking?

[rustic wind]

No

Been crafting it for 6 years. Being a solo dev with a fulltime job and two kids and wow to play so incremental progress

[solemn elm]

if not cats :]

[rancid granite]

speaking of cats

@wheat jay hows ur lil man doing

whats his name again

[sudden goblet]

How do u duel rogues as slayer arms

[slender pelican]

by not accepting the duel

[sudden goblet]

Agreed

[rancid granite]

wimps

[wheat jay]

cant say

also hes chilling

sleeping now

lets settle for Batman, thats how hes called at teh vet

[rancid granite]

accept the duel smash his face and die with honor

LOL

wth did you name him some slur thats censored

batman works though 😂

[solemn elm]

that’s adorable little fella here to save the day

[wheat jay]

bro, he's BLACK

HE HAS BLACK FUR

how the fuck did you think i was gonna call him!??!?!?!?!?!?

[rancid granite]

icecube Jr cause he's cool as ice??

[steady socket]

doesnt murlok have an export string for talents anymore ?

or did it never is my memory failing me

[rancid granite]

u can from individual players

[steady socket]

makes sense thank you

[lavish quest]

Literally racist

[wheat jay]

yes

no

i love him ❤️

[green wharf]

peter?

[steady socket]

another question, people are picking slayer without bladestorm ? or is it just this individual guy

[lavish quest]

Doesn't cleanse

I've seen such dynamics before...

[lavish quest]

Uhh...

No

Don't do that. I don't think

Maybe

[steady socket]

i dont think so either haha had me confused

[lavish quest]

Bladestorm is kinda horrid

Just play arms and have both

[solemn elm]

not as slayer you dummy

slayer bladestorm hits hard

[lavish quest]

Doesn't do dmg anyways, who needs it

[solemn elm]

not colossus bladestorm

[lavish quest]

kekw

[solemn elm]

HMMM

this is why you need to play kagisani

and never play warrior again

[lavish quest]

If he has to choose, he's playing fury

[lavish quest]

I'm better at war than monk...

[solemn elm]

EVERY ONE GET IN THE CAR WE'RE LEAVING THIS TOWN NOW AHH WHAT THE

IMPOSSIBLE

THIS ISNT THE CAR

AAHHHH HERMIT PURPLE

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/joseph-old-hamon-hermit-purple-justice-gif-3635327333817875166

[solemn elm]

apologies but it does do big damage you fool as slayer

shit dont play around

[lavish quest]

Flep losing his mind

[solemn elm]

is that a fence???

yes i am

[modest marten]

a deficit alters joint angles and bar displacement, that is mechanical

[wheat jay]

quick blitz win at the end of the day 🙂

[wheat jay]

well

dont acre

best cat is best cat

❤️

[solemn elm]

actually is best cat so

[modest marten]

i don’t do oly but i’ve been training for a decade and enhanced for 6 years, most guys i know would struggle with balance or shoulder alignment doing that

maybe i don’t get it

[elfin herald]

i got my first blitz game of the day we lost the first carts and half of the team went afk

[lavish quest]

Don't thing you guys use acres

[modest marten]

these lifts are too dangerous for me

[wheat jay]

hmm

oh, typo lol

[lavish quest]

We use acres to measure land

[copper fox]

Lol

[worldly oriole]

NO A deficit makes you lose weight man @modest marten

[modest marten]

i don’t get it can’t you make the same argument about romanians

which is obviously wrong

[copper fox]

1. The first isn’t true for snatch
2. The bar distance traveled is irrelevant to the mechanics in a snatch deadlift vs a deficit

Joint angles don’t change at all

From a snatch to a 1-2 inch deficit snatch

[modest marten]

the laws of thermodynamics dictate that you can’t create energy from nothing

[copper fox]

Ok you also been using intervene wrong for 3 expansions

So

[modest marten]

yes they do they change 1 to 2 inches

what

what about romanians

are joint angles changed

[copper fox]

What about them?

From what

[modest marten]

i’m trying to find where your threshold is

[copper fox]

What are you comparing it to

[modest marten]

you said there’s no mechanical difference

[copper fox]

Because a degree of joint change is t a mechanical diff

Again

[modest marten]

so is there one for romanians

yes it is

it’s huge

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Ok

[modest marten]

bro

what’s your ig follow me @carboxyhemoglobinemia.aphemia

i wanna see you doing these crazy shoulder busters

[copper fox]

What

[modest marten]

let’s see who’s bigger

[copper fox]

What does size have to do with this

[modest marten]

nothing

i’m weak as hell

but i know enough to know that you’ll never seen brother li doing that

[tame rain]

Hes right that a joint angle changing is a mechanical change even by 1 degree

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[copper fox]

What are you saying

Doing what

[modest marten]

dropping your hips to apply more quads for a 700 snatch

[copper fox]

What?

[modest marten]

that’s going to throw off your shoulder alignment

unless you’re like a ninja

[copper fox]

Obviously?

[modest marten]

there’s a huge mechanical difference

like not tiny

like

enormou

massive mechanical difference

[copper fox]

If you do that you’re not even doing the movement correctly so this point is irrelevant

I don’t understand what you’re even getting at

[modest marten]

we agree then

[copper fox]

Good

[rancid granite]

i think he wants to see your dick under he guise of 'lets see who is bigger'

take it to DMs

[modest marten]

exactly

[copper fox]

I didn’t even bring it here tbh

lol

[solemn elm]

LMAO

[lavish quest]

That's in my DMs

[magic wing]

wtf are you even talking about lmao

[lavish quest]

Dih

[magic wing]

mfs finding each other "thresholds" sounds sus af

some gachibass stuff

[copper fox]

I’m
Sayin

Bro wanted pics

@lavish quest is my threshold

[lavish quest]

uwu

[worldly oriole]

gachi bass

[magic wing]

send him the pecs all oiled up

[latent fossil]

slayers on murlok running critical thinking

@solemn elm thoughts

[lavish quest]

We have a talent called critical thinking?

[vapid tartan]

I wanna see some werms

[solemn elm]

you can take out the sweeping strikes one and put it into critical thinking

if not, take out the night elf middle one that gives tactician kinda worthless anyways

[worldly oriole]

Any slayer tips? am i waiting for stacks of something to bladestorm?

for arms

[solemn elm]

no

press your shit

and do damage

like you always would

you’ll have a 3 stacker lined up with a warbreaker aswell if you just have uptime

and don’t stop cranking

the biggest damage is during bladestorm but you still crank even just hitting someone

by 3 stacker i mean imminent demise that being when bladestorm is yellow

[latent fossil]

oh wait wait

laros is putting 1 point

not 2

interesting

the fuck who the fuck's typing? Faker ?

[north thicket]

have we got any feedback yet? I am testing thane and slayer on dummies it seems like thane is ahead like 25% in 3t (yes, Imp WW as slayer) while being down -5% on 1

some other factors to be counted in, thane doesn't really hamstring but slayer has to (I didn't do it on the dummies)

think both fury got equalized more or less, not that slayer is the clear go-to now? (thane also got some buffs, massacre worth picking etc?)

[solemn elm]

yea one point is fine

[solemn elm]

you should hamstring regardless

[solemn elm]

and you are probably hitting the 4 target dummies that stack, slayer is a lot better single target to hit one person

and even then, you can still cleave very hard with bladestorm

not every game will have people stacking like that realistically unless it’s a melee cleave

kind of just the same thing for arms too if you’re fighting a cleave you can play thane if you’re fighting casters etc and you want uptime you can be slayer

[north thicket]

yeah but somehow I don't see the massive ST advantage as slayer

[solemn elm]

you’re just hitting really hard

compared to thane

and your uptime is significantly stronger

thane is a lot of pad

it looks crazy but it’s not that much better

[north thicket]

yeah, I get what you are seeing

maybe I am not doing the ST slayer rotation very great yet

[solemn elm]

if you’re doing like bg’s and such you can def be thane though that’s a lot more pad

[north thicket]

spamming RB and Rampage isnt that hard

but let's see

[copper fox]

Who even started this propaganda

[solemn elm]

idek bro

[copper fox]

It’s so bad

[solemn elm]

i guess just like crackling thunder gives people the wrong impression

[north thicket]

what is bad and insulting is the way Hamstring is

[solemn elm]

and obviously hamstring being on global lol

yea

trust me i hate it too but you gotta do it

[north thicket]

I know

okay so what's your upside on the single target dummy as slayer - if somebody already did it?

+20% over thane?

just for benchmark purposes

[solemn elm]

i don’t have an exact % other than yours just crushing really hard

[north thicket]

mine +5% is polluted by BT hitting harder sub 35% and I am not abusing Exe super hard when dummy is sub 35%

[solemn elm]

it’s hard to give you exact like data but it just does a ton of damage, you should just hit some people in arena and see what’s up, but slayer fury feels very strong a lot stronger than thane since it’s actually damage and not pad

and since the dummy’s are always execute range it’s hard to tell too

[tame rain]

The need to make an execute range dummy and an always full hp dummy tbh

[north thicket]

https://murlok.io/character/us/zuljin/braxxinn/pvp more or less this build, without Deft for Bloodcraze (and without HnS for imp WW when bgs)

[solemn elm]

yup i got my ass beat by him last night

he just destroyed my ele

and did so much damage

you just spread your rend with whirlwind 😭 feels so shit but i guess it’s what we got and just crank damage

[north thicket]

rend is already AoE you don't need to WW it

but he^ doesn't play it right now which makes me think it's not that big in the priority queue

if only Clap replaced WW for slayer too...

[green wharf]

Fuck rend

[north thicket]

these 30k RB crits as slayer mini-monster after the buffs I have to switch back to Details from Blizz dmg meter so exactly whats up

j/k ofc

[copper fox]

?

[rancid granite]

rend is already AoE you don't need to WW it

[copper fox]

Wrong? Lol

[idle falcon]

is RB stronger than BT in pvp?

really?

[copper fox]

That’s misinformation # 2 from taurine

[idle falcon]

@solemn elm i need confirmation

[solemn elm]

can prio crushing blows, when they reset they give you auto attack speed

literally just press your shit and don’t over think it pressing either is just fine to get a rampage or get enraged it’s beneficial regardless

[wheat jay]

I dunno i just rend in dungeons and everything has it

Arms tho

[jovial torrent]

the pantheon is complete

[solemn elm]

rend is aoe yea but that shit has a cd and such, whirlwind doesn’t

and anyways, we’re just spreading piss rend just press whirlwind

[solemn elm]

i love microchoppa

[copper fox]

You press ww

There’s no debate

[latent fossil]

My goat

[solemn elm]

exactly

[copper fox]

lol

[dusky parrot]

Fury is broken

[wheat jay]

Btw @copper fox is gnome still big for warr?

[solemn elm]

bajheera that battleground huh

always

always play gnome

[copper fox]

Yea

[wheat jay]

Cuz no way im gnoming lmao

[dusky parrot]

EW

[copper fox]

Then play troll

[solemn elm]

can be troll too or hmt

[wheat jay]

Im belf

[dusky parrot]

troll is actually goated racial wise

[wheat jay]

Staying belf

[dusky parrot]

But they’re lowkey anorexic orcs

[copper fox]

Belf is for femboys

[latent fossil]

Im ofc

Orc

[solemn elm]

orc is good too

stun reduc can’t go wrong

[latent fossil]

Im gay

[solemn elm]

no real bad race but if you want some points you can be gnome

[wheat jay]

My mogs are good

Thus im staying belf

[dusky parrot]

Not good

[latent fossil]

Reported

[dusky parrot]

You should only be gay. FOR WAR

AND CARNAGE

[latent fossil]

Unreported

[wheat jay]

@copper fox staying belf

[solemn elm]

can’t lie that shit ugly as hell but the colors match atleast, random ass red tinge on the belt there on the top and u look like u wouldn’t even press parry or anything

but you did cook

with the other one

with the legion elite set

[wheat jay]

[dusky parrot]

The mythic undermine set for warriors and the new elite 2h goes hard

[wheat jay]

Fuk u

[copper fox]

Why they tuck their chin like that

wtf

[wheat jay]

Like a boxer ez

[dusky parrot]

So I don’t uppercut them on their stupid shit eating smile

[latent fossil]

You just reminded me to farm for the blackrock foundry waist

[copper fox]

I like how you both gave like

[solemn elm]

LMAOOO

[copper fox]

Boxer answers

[dusky parrot]

Every belf player I met is insufferable

[solemn elm]

every male belf player i fight doesn’t press any buttons and bots out

especially the paladins

[latent fossil]

I dont know any belf players

[solemn elm]

they have 0 idea of what bubble even is

[dusky parrot]

It’s either the most ditzy tourist e girl playing with her fat chud boyfriend or just a dad

[wheat jay]

Sheesh

[solemn elm]

atleast b female belf

[wheat jay]

I feel perosnally attacked lmao

[solemn elm]

just be a hot girl

LMAOO well we know you would actually be real

[north thicket]

how is this misinformation? it's AoE (arc)

[solemn elm]

so don’t feel bad

[latent fossil]

@north thicket are you a tauren

[solemn elm]

6 second cooldown, whirlwind is just a global cooldown

which one would you rather do, spread rend by pressing whirlwind or pressing rend when it has a cooldown

[latent fossil]

Press mortal strike

[north thicket]

yes, if you have imp ww you can skip it you are right about that

[solemn elm]

why wouldnt we be imp ww we don’t really change much in the fury tree only thing we flex is the regular warrior tree for a few things

[dusky parrot]

Whirlwind gives rage too might I add

[copper fox]

You press ww

It’s not debatable

[solemn elm]

basically

[dusky parrot]

And it gives you 4 cleaving stacks

[north thicket]

Braxxin is not playing WW but I guess it's arenas build

[dusky parrot]

Waste of a GCD

[sudden goblet]

if im geared for arms can i switch to fury or will it be trash

[solemn elm]

you’ll be aight

[dusky parrot]

Braxxin and I talk and he said to me personally “I love you so much I’m gonna kiss you make sure to press whirlwind to proc rend” and I said “okay baby”

[latent fossil]

Play whatever , doesnt matter, just press your shit and do cocaine

[solemn elm]

type shit

seb has gained the best mentality yet

[dusky parrot]

NO

YOU WILL BE MISERABLE

[solemn elm]

ik what you mean but it’s more ideal aswell even if it is arenas cause it’s just spreading rend easier

also probably was testing stuff

[latent fossil]

Idk shit and im shit so I should just press shit

[solemn elm]

most of the build is just big pump on one person anyways but the bladestorm can do big cleavage too

[copper fox]

I saw braxxin and seb on a date and braxxin was literally explaining how important ww is to seb

[solemn elm]

oh man

[latent fossil]

Fake news, I don’t play fury

[wheat jay]

Good seb

Play arms like a man

[latent fossil]

I need to press mortal strike

I think of mortal strike

I feel the mortal strike

[sudden goblet]

ye slayer arms is good rn

[rancid granite]

arms is actually fun in pve too

[sudden goblet]

feels fun

[latent fossil]

In my heart

Sometimes I feel it in my asshole

[frozen glacier]

fury boys

[elfin herald]

CgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDzMmZWMzMzMjxMzMzYmZmlhxMzMbPwYmBAAiZW2GbsZbxMNmZGmMbMDbAmZxYBAmZwMzYMGGGMCgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDzMmZWMzMzMjxMzMzYmZmlhxMzMbPwYmBAAiZW2GbsZbxMNmZGmMbMDbAmZxYBAmZwMzYMGGGM

im trying this build

is so good

[frozen glacier]

I was just about to ask for a build xd

[solemn elm]

i think i sent that earlier but yea that should work

big fury slayer

go destroy everybody

you guys all own

[latent fossil]

But I don't have her...

and youtube keeps reminding me of it

[frozen glacier]

methyltren spotted

[copper fox]

[solemn elm]

you will be okay soon promise

[green wharf]

She is already riding with another, cowboy, its time to forget

[latent fossil]

She's dead, Syeg

[green wharf]

yeah, riding with god now

[latent fossil]

.... if you say so

[green wharf]

riding a beutiful unicorn in heaven, what did you expect

[tepid abyss]

Does the warr buffs that just happend count for pvp as well?

[solemn elm]

indeed

[tepid abyss]

Is fury any better these days then

[solemn elm]

yeah you can play fury slayer it’s quite strong

[tepid abyss]

[latent fossil]

Warrior is in a good spot right now

(finally)

[tepid abyss]

[latent fossil]

play whatever build you like

[tepid abyss]

big

Anyone got a talent code for fury pvp

[solemn elm]

here you go friend

CgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDzMmZWYmZmZMMzMzYmZmlhZGzMLmZmBAAiZW2GbsZZxMNmZGmMbMDbAmZxMLDAmZwMDjxMGGM

[latent fossil]

FINALLY got the fucking blackrock foundry plate waist lmao

I did highmaul like 50 times last week and got 0

[solemn elm]

nice work :) now big dam

[frail lake]

Play rbg they said

Its easy elite they said

That everyone behaves like Bots and chase whatever the hell they see instead of playing around the bg win conditions.. NOBODY TOLD ME THAT

[elfin herald]

actually low rated bg is a rbg but with rating

[solemn elm]

i believe in you

[elfin herald]

they play exact the same

[frail lake]

I swear

Elite in shuffle will be easier than this

[latent fossil]

Almost all of my teams in RBG are terrible

like they legit don't know how to play the BG they're in

so I don't really expect to climb on that ladder

[frail lake]

I mean

[green wharf]

just win by yourself

[frail lake]

How

[latent fossil]

How do I keep 3 bases at once

[frail lake]

This is more depressing than this one time when we carried oue guildmasters pseudo girlfriend (he was simping) thru mythic and funneled her loot

[green wharf]

spin

[solemn elm]

just need a good sesh

gotta play another bracket if it’s not going too well

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/stares-in-wtf-wtf-wtf-meme-wtf-gif-fox-news-gif-7522361706442941443

[green wharf]

like, that is what is blitz, you need to be the smart monkey

and do stuff

[frail lake]

Man

[green wharf]

is frustrating and it doesnt always work

[frail lake]

If i am the only guy running for Flag in wg

[green wharf]

but is the only way to work

[frail lake]

And still do more than double the dmg of the "zerg zugzug" people in the group

Something is wrong

[hot solstice]

am I the only one who finds frustrating getting 36 per win with 1800cr and 3k mmr on blitz?

[vocal dagger]

Guys, I'm not sure, but either Second Wind got a hidden buff or it's bugged. I've started surviving on low HP as Slayer Fury way better than before.

sometimes guys just cant kill me when im low hp in def stance

Can someone way more experienced than me check this out, please? Something feels a bit off

[jovial torrent]

we did just get a 5% stam buff

so more hp to heal

[vocal dagger]

Hmmmmm

So it was a hidden buff to Second Wind after all! 😄

But it feels really good, honestly. Especially in 1v1s.

[worldly oriole]

GRINDING rating is low T @hot solstice

[hot solstice]

main problem is the q time...I need 33 wins in a row to catch up

[lavish quest]

Well they don't want us done in 20 seconds

[copper fox]

36 feels generous

The way mmr works

Can barely lose rating if you have a brain cell

[green wharf]

Any na healers for x3?

[modest marten]

i noticed this aswell

it’s more than 5% stam

second wind was total swap talent yesterday

today it’s worth keeping

[vocal dagger]

Yeah, I think so too

[modest marten]

maybe there was a bug didn

bugfix

[lavish quest]

Losing CR is not a factor in his point He talkin about wins

[stable torrent]

Fury Slayer is pumping again I love it

[worldly oriole]

you need to capatilize the bold text @stable torrent

[jovial torrent]

maybe the stam buff or somthing broke the second wind and set it back to pre nerf 4% or whatever it was

[modest marten]

i think it hits 4% at a certain threshold

[jovial torrent]

i dont remember what it was pre nerf

[modest marten]

the dummy effects are serverside scripts but we can infer the 35, and the 2

the tooltip says it increases the closer you are to death

i assume that’s what the 4 is

i guess this is also multiplied by versatility and field dressing

[latent fossil]

Yo Colossus kinda destroying too though

I feel good

it feels good

damn it feels good to be a gangsta

[stable torrent]

much needed buffs imo, im having a good time arms/fury slayer. haven't played much colo yet

[latent fossil]

both col / slayer feel good

https://tenor.com/view/james-brown-dancing-split-i-feel-good-feel-good-gif-11343030

[stable torrent]

i knew that i would now

SO GOOD

[jovial torrent]

hopfully healer priest gets some buffs 🙏

might have actually taken shamans spot after this weeks buffs

[latent fossil]

but do you feel gangsta though

[jovial torrent]

in shuffle yes, in 3's not so much lol

hard to press dispel/dmg when ur spam healing and other healers just have more raw HP's

i think if they buffed like priests prayer of mending maybe just to keep ppl topped up more so u can do some offensive stuff would beneat

[latent fossil]

uhmm Choppah?

we feel gangsta here

okay?

nah but srsly

you're probably like, 50k rating above me so that's why it feels kinda odd in 3s for you

[jovial torrent]

we also played some scuffed comps lol, some were much better than others

warrior dh felt good last week, will feel even better this week

[latent fossil]

How about turbo though

[jovial torrent]

rogue mage would probs feel much better also just cus the enemy spends more time in cc

so u get breaks to add dmg

[stark agate]

wasnt DH nerfed? how would this week feel better

[jovial torrent]

true lol, one buffed one nerfed

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-arnoldchwarzenegger-turbo-time-jingle-all-the-way-gif-11070880

[green wharf]

man, i dont have luck with healers

3 monks i got on lfg just open with cocoon

bruh

[latent fossil]

that's the new meta bruh

high level tactics

[jovial torrent]

ngl if i can find a turbo on my war

that would be great

[latent fossil]

just ask Saul lol

ez

[jovial torrent]

the conquest grind starts tomorrow

[latent fossil]

as arms right

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[jovial torrent]

i think so

my other war is fury but once conq uncaps i might gear em both for arms

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-bob-esponja-spongebob-celebrating-shout-gif-15748766

[green wharf]

cant

monk cant CCm, get perma cycloned, even when i interrupt

[stark agate]

is mortal wounds even worth as slayer

[modest marten]

triple fury warrior with 15x death wish

open and shut

kill or be killed

talented

i think you could actually get a res out of it

[jovial torrent]

3v3 being so hard kind of makes sense when i check out dissonance awc top 8 and he is only just scaping 2200

[modest marten]

deflating rating would probably make everyone quit so maybe with their new 2300 they figured it’s easier to undershoot it and raise it instead of risk having to nerf it

[jovial torrent]

i assume they wana just make the jump from 2100-2400 less rating like 1950-2100 but they bodged it with the deflation, everyone just guna get their wep mog in blitz and not bother with 3v3

[modest marten]

im having fun

it doesn’t feel serious

idgaf about losing streaks

[jovial torrent]

im looking forward to starting the grind once i got conquest, last week was just wasting so much time pugging mythic and spamming m+ to catchup my dk

[modest marten]

personally i spent all my sparks to get first craft bonuses on professions

[jovial torrent]

ive only crafted 2 things atm on dk, kind of feels like a waste to craft more atm cus im guan be bonus rolling the raid bosses which will fill the slots i could have crafted in

[modest marten]

i’m yet to do lfr man

queues are popping

world pvp is fun too

the token 4 set is nuts

i hope they add more stuff to slayers rise

it kinda seems like the bloody token gear was designed to be 4set / 4 set compatible

[vocal dagger]

Can anyone here actually beat a Paladin 1v1 as a Warrior? 😄
They won't even fight me, they just kite me and I die in the process

[latent fossil]

No

[modest marten]

nope

if you beat a paladin they suck

[vocal dagger]

And what about dem wl?

Possible?

[modest marten]

demo?

[latent fossil]

Warrior is not a good 1v1 class

it needs a healer

[vocal dagger]

Yeah, i know

[latent fossil]

to put pressure

[vocal dagger]

Just love duels sometimes

[modest marten]

just buy hella consumables

go auction house mode

[vocal dagger]

😄

[modest marten]

the bloody token 4 set i was talking about would be good for duels

way better than conquest gear

in the same spot

[vocal dagger]

Interesting

Im not in game now. What bonus it has?

[modest marten]

it’s 6% vers 7% strength 10% stam

active always in war mode

the set bonus has 8 slots

so you can have your tier 4 set at the same time

i thought that was neat

[vocal dagger]

Got it, thanks. I'll check it out once I'm online! 🙂

Goodnight to the EU guys, and have a great evening to the US folks!

[solemn elm]

you guys are funny

[solemn elm]

not a thing

dueling as warrior is just not even the move unles you know they are bad

long day for me i just did so much stuff

replaced me power supply with a 750 watt one now and its cool

my other one was pretty bad

[solemn elm]

i believe in you the most out of all

[worldly oriole]

ABOUT to just become a keycel

[solemn elm]

we need you back in the game big tone

[latent fossil]

Someone ask earlier

does slayer even need mortal wounds

and I find myself with the same doubt too

[latent fossil]

lol

[clear spear]

Which better slayer or colo in solo?

[frozen glacier]

overrall colo, agains casters slayer

@solemn elm

[clear spear]

Thanks

[spice hornet]

You have been, bud

[solemn elm]

omg wow

amazing eyes

[maiden trellis]

Hey guys, for ret arms 3s, how do you determine what should be the target? Whats the condition for sticking to killing only dps, or maybe switching between dps and sometimes doing a go on the healer?

[elfin herald]

man you usually hit a target that you can have most uptime

usually low mobility ones

locks sp dks etc

[maiden trellis]

Ah i see, so if you’re facing melee caster where caster is mobile like mage, you just hit melee and deal with the freecasting mage?

[elfin herald]

not let him freecast you should swap to interrupt ray etc

sometimes it depends of the game but can happen in that swap you force two major defensives and on the other go you kill one of them

the thing you cant do is just tunnel one target and not getting full kited

[vapid tartan]

depends on comp and gamestate

[solemn elm]

real

[vapid tartan]

generally you want to hit what stops the most pressure from them

[crimson bone]

are we not taking bladestorm as slayer fury?

[stable torrent]

Take bladestorm

Avatar Thane

[crimson bone]

Okay cos it feels pretty good as avatar aha, coping build from above and murlol lmao

[green anchor]

How poorly is fury designed when if someone decides to take avatar they lose all functionality from like 4 hero talents completely

[solemn elm]

you can cop avatar too sometimes it’s straight up just 15% more damage i’ve been experimenting with a friend

we’re just that op i think

i like bladestorm abit more since you can be more technical with it

that boy checkdown been experimenting with avatar too

both kind of just crank so hard

[green anchor]

i don't like not having bladestorm

[solemn elm]

me too

it’s alright to pick between them

[green anchor]

as thane there were too many monents where i was like damn I wish I had bladestorm right now

bad feeling

[urban skiff]

how's warrior in 2s right now?

[deep stream]

Seems aight

[urban skiff]

I don't know that I love stormbringer

[solemn elm]

good

[wheat jay]

man farming conq is so boring...

[urban skiff]

what are you farming it on?

[wheat jay]

crates rn

cuz i got 0

[urban skiff]

yea, what toon?

[wheat jay]

warr

[urban skiff]

Even with all the CC folks?

[solemn elm]

what cc folks u talkin bout

just do damage and play

you can always just q up and play arenas and get conquest that way too

[wheat jay]

im out in like 20min

then im back home at like 18 or so today

ill do that later probably

rn its slow conq grind

[urban skiff]

I'd offer to help artji by queueing with him but idk if I can carry on anything that isn't enh

[wheat jay]

lmao dont worry

i also need to spam the fuck out of m+ on warr for crests xD

and push on dh

jesus theres so mcuh to do...

@stuck mulch okay i take back all i said before

its gonna be 20s or higher for 1% XD

[pastel swan]

Is it crazy to say slayer feels better than colossus even in melee lobs?

[green anchor]

not crazy anymore

I'm a Colossus diehard myself though

[wheat jay]

Same tho we have to remember the rule

Play whatever is stronger

[stuck mulch]

yeah i aint even gonna try anymore

20s without premades

no thank you

[rustic wind]

Mountain of muscle and scars is very hard to pass on

The extra 5% beef is really noticeable

[wheat jay]

Its okay, ill maybe share my resil

Once i get it myself lol

[bright kraken]

how is solo shuffle still ass

[wheat jay]

Still deflated

[bright kraken]

people so braindead in shuffle too

i had a destro trying to kill an aff

and the aff just walked two steps behind a wall every single go

[wheat jay]

Ye i gave up on shuffle xD

[bright kraken]

i just went 2-4

because this dk and war are zugzug

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Yep

[urban skiff]

Next reset I have full conq gear

Why is cap not lifted yet?

daytime shuffle lobby, time to fuck my ratings

whee

[green anchor]

metaslave rule

i go against the rules

[green anchor]

next week afaik

hope they also add rng conq gear boxes

[wheat jay]

it might next week, we'll see

man they should remove fucking pvp gear...

make it like legion...

or i dunno, like WoD where you had normal gear from pvp, it just have less stats and added pvp power and pvp resilience

so like versa but pvp exclusive

[idle falcon]

True

Real and true

[green anchor]

but in legion and bfa they used the dumb pvp templates for tuning

instead of putting actual effort into tuning abilities

"Agility reduced by 4%" is what a rogue spec nerf would look like at the time

[urban skiff]

two losses and now this bullshijt

[wheat jay]

they should just give us option to assort stats as we want

kinda like gw2 i guess

you go in, you have full pvp scaling no matter what

and you select build and stats yourself

done

[green anchor]

i liked how you could reforge stats in mop

[wheat jay]

they could even go further

[green anchor]

don't remeber if it worked on pvp gear

[wheat jay]

and make it so you scale higher at some rating

so, 2100 you scale higher

2400 higher

only at those ratings, not once you get them of course

[rustic wind]

you need bigger rotation icons

[urban skiff]

what even is this garbage

Nobody shut down my burst and still nothing died

[wheat jay]

Cuz noone doing cc or stopping heals either xD

[urban skiff]

this guy was talking shit at me

[wheat jay]

What can I say man

[urban skiff]

I mean I did all I could

[urban skiff]

I don't love that an easy 4-2 turned into 1-4

[wheat jay]

Nice fluffer

[urban skiff]

probably my own fault for giving stormbringer an honest try

having to wait 2 minutes for next go is nightmarish

[wheat jay]

Okay guys how do you play warr in pvp?

[urban skiff]

I've been told macro mortal strike to everything

[wheat jay]

Lmao thats a long ass time

[urban skiff]

Yea but apparently stormbringer is the goat now?

[wheat jay]

Maybe cuz of setups?

[urban skiff]

but spotting which teams I should use it early because they don't react to it fast enough and which teams I stagger it so I can use it right after they've gotten out of defensives is difficult

[wheat jay]

Hmmm

[urban skiff]

I would stream the games instead of recording them, but I get more out of the recordings I think

they're just so much more difficult to share

Tbh I did make mistakes vs the dk

I forgot my ele taunts all his pets

render every other go useless