pvp

[green wharf]

dont do it again

[dusky parrot]

https://x.com/tentakvlt/status/2047039485444071513?s=46

KING OF THE JUNJLE (@tentakvlt)

i can't

X · Apr 22, 2026, 7:47 PM

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-that-door-had-a-lock-on-it-rodrick-rules-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-everybody-was-trying-to-make-me-feel-like-i-was-losing-my-mind-i-knew-it-gif-17179024920149209770

[solemn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-does-he-know-faded-gif-11697106329231392146

[novel crater]

I just dced my ass off

yea i just made one too I cant with this shit

I logged in straight into a 3 MM lobby with DCs every round u win

https://x.com/SantiagoYzusqui/status/2047175706229035150

Santi (@SantiagoYzusqui)

Log into shuff... if you win the round you get... DCed! Also... this are the NA and EU shuff ladders last 12hrs LMAO you cant make this stuff up!

X · Apr 23, 2026, 4:48 AM

Im downloading League right now

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/podowell-wojak-doofulous-pie-dented-head-gif-9468054020186468462

blizzard when they wrote that

[urban skiff]

Can you play survival hunter without boomstick?

[urban skiff]

the rise of the MM hunter is so annoying

The game is never good when MM hunter is king, at least for the specs i play

[young bone]

MM hunter is so boring to play too

[urban skiff]

and to fight

Their enjoyment derrives entirely from depriving me of any

The best most fun game a MM can have involves him taking no damage ever

[young bone]

reuw

true

[urban skiff]

Fuck give me a glyph that changes boomstick to a rampage animation and I'd play survival so much

the concept of the boomstick alone is straight up killing any interest i have in that spec

which is a shame, i had just gotten into that shit in TWW

OH COME ONE

[young bone]

thats nice, everything in 1 spot

[urban skiff]

I'm playing my aug right now

[young bone]

lol

[urban skiff]

It's just making me miss my wife

I dinged less than 48 hours ago and we're already back to Delves+11 being trivial content

At least with aug i have to think instead of just blend everything in my path like i do with shaman

[urban skiff]

ngl, kind of neat how the tooltip tells you what you can get

[magic wing]

Imaging rolling this shit

[fierce elm]

roll the delve you WONT

Also fuck it we playing MM now

<@&257983573498265600>

[wheat jay]

Afro wanna do keys later?

[fierce elm]

raid at 20, home at 19

[urban skiff]

lmao

MM is just demo warrior from ranged

[jovial torrent]

daamn maybe its my hunters time to shuffle and blast

[wheat jay]

Sadge

Ok

[urban skiff]

amazing epic bg

my own fault for going into one as aug

[wheat jay]

Ewwww aug

Ngl i dont like aug

Design wise

Should be like demo lock, pet class

But like 3-4 strong minions

Not army

[urban skiff]

what army

[wheat jay]

demo lock has army of small minions

and few bigger ones

aug should be normal dps, have between 1 and 4 scaly boys following him

and having their own separate abilities to be used as buttons

kinda like gw2 minions, you can have like 4 diff ones

they have one button to summon them, and that button changes into a different spell once theyre summoned

[urban skiff]

The whole point of aug is to buff your team, not to buff minions

[wheat jay]

ye

which is wack

and basically broke the balance of the game forever when they added it xD

[urban skiff]

they should have added it as an optional 6th spot for dungeon groups that also increased diff

[wheat jay]

lmao no

that would be EVEN WORSE

[jovial torrent]

yeh aug doesnt really make sense unless they wanted to make it tank heal 2 dps buff class, but then they would need to make like 1/4 of the dps specs into buff type class

[wheat jay]

its terrible from balancing pov

also, it isnt even the best in m+

its taken because of cc xD

its like rogue in i believe s2 of bfa and most of shadowlands

you took it for shroud, and for keeping 2 mobs in cc forever xD

[jovial torrent]

i think its also cus it buffs tank and healer

[wheat jay]

maybe

either way, it has too much

AND competetive dps when you look at logs

cuz on logs you can see how much of your dmg comes from aug

[jovial torrent]

it is a bit unfortunate that theres melee meta team and meta team and thats about it, also i decided to play arcane and dk this expac and they are riddled with bugs or bad design decisions

they need to move away from this reward top 1% mentality and go back a little more towards grinding, like top 10% skillwise but it takes a bunch of grinding cus otherwise everyone feels like they have to meta slave super hard to make the 1%

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaaaaaaan

1% is 100% accessible for anyone

without ANY raiding at all

hell I was almost in 17 keys and those were above 1%, in heroic gear and lfr trinkets xD

1% is the grind

there's also 3400 mount

which is a grind too, but more accessible as youre not racing other players

[jovial torrent]

what

[wheat jay]

right now its 2.5%

on eu

end of season it will be closer to like 8-10%

but i guess you didnt mean specifically 10% as a benchmark

but just grinding

that's 3k which is kinda free, or even 2500 which gives you mythic gear in vaults

[jovial torrent]

so if i took a rogue, hunter dev evoker hpala guardian druid, im just as easily going to hit top 1%, because 1% is accessable to anyone

k

[wheat jay]

12 devs above 3400

[jovial torrent]

i agree that 3k is doable by anyone and 3.4k is a good stretch goal for the season, but top 1% rewards are so stupid in a game with 32 hero specs

[wheat jay]

rogue is good overall in keys, dont forget that

rogue is also in the top team

[urban skiff]

just make dungeons 1 tank, 1 heal, 1 aug, 7 dps

[wheat jay]

outlaw tho

[urban skiff]

go

solve the dps crisis

[wheat jay]

hunter is very good too

[fierce elm]

Accessable does not mean easily

[wheat jay]

all 3 specs, with mm and bm being just best of the three

[fierce elm]

But yes

[wheat jay]

GUARDIAN DRUID IS TANKING 20S

[jovial torrent]

my point is if u take the 5 worse classes and put em against the top 5 best theres more than a 1% diff in the speed of a run

[wheat jay]

and hpala is healing 20s

[wheat jay]

accessible, yes

[fierce elm]

Rogue is considered one of the worst M+ specs and now had a spot in one of the best runs

But yes, 1% is reachable if willing to put time into it

[jovial torrent]

and top 1% contest brings those differences to light where if the game was balanced around top 10 or 5% it would be much healtheir for the community and build a good sentiment around wow that isnt constantly dooming

[fierce elm]

The only ”meta” issue is tank right now

[wheat jay]

brother, dps specs are not even that unbalanced now

you can see every class doing +20 keys

[fierce elm]

Literally the only spec issue is tanks lmfao

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

DPS is fine across the board generally

[wheat jay]

brm too good

[fierce elm]

But you are objectively playing a fuckton worse spec by not playing brew

[wheat jay]

okay, 1% is now all 17s timed

not all even

16/17

[jovial torrent]

and it will continue to rise, no point argueing over that now

[wheat jay]

imma send spec distribution of 17+ keys

[fierce elm]

There is also this point of ”Maybe 1% isnt for everybody”

[fierce elm]

Considering the reward track for M+ is good up until 3.4

[wheat jay]

oh my there's even enh shamans

[fierce elm]

that makes the leap to 1% fairly okay

[wheat jay]

the leap, at least right now is MUCH closer than any pvp bracket where jump is from elite to 0.1% xD

oh btw, feral is also there, doing highest keys in the world right now

#1 team is literally arms outlaw feral

xD

[jovial torrent]

im not argueing it isnt possible, bu its still a fucking stupid decision

[fierce elm]

Why

[wheat jay]

guardian slipped its way into highest keys as tank, doing +21s

[fierce elm]

Genuine question

[wheat jay]

ret is doing +21s too

bm hunter doing +20s

[jovial torrent]

it adds more pressure to play meta

[wheat jay]

balance druid too, so both druid dps specs

[fierce elm]

(nvm that the game isnt balanced around those 1% but often the specs they play are just better than the others)

[fierce elm]

How so

[wheat jay]

AND WE FOUND SHADOW PRIEST AYOOOOOOOOO

[fierce elm]

As someone who plays non-meta right now

[wheat jay]

prot warr doing +20s too

dont mind me im just looking at top keys done, they're by timer and level of key

found hpala doing 20s too

can't see blood dk for shit tho

@fierce elm im sorry 🙁

[jovial torrent]

they specifically released a nerfed raid , pruned classes to make the game more accessable, then they go the complete opposite direction with rewards and slam in a bunch of top 1% stuff, they need to just pick a lane

[wheat jay]

those work together tho

[fierce elm]

Those do work together

[wheat jay]

pruned classes means the skill ceiling between top dogs and regular players is lower

[jovial torrent]

u 2 clearly dont want to change your stance on anything so i really cba to argue over this

[fierce elm]

What

[wheat jay]

cuz you dont need to track 50 buffs and 100 more different things to perform well

[fierce elm]

I genuinely asked for your argument over why introducing 1% was an off-decision

[wheat jay]

dh for example is by design one of the easiest specs in the game

[fierce elm]

I know discussions generally wont change anyones mind

But I’d love to hear some sort of argument why 1% cant exist alongside the rest

[wheat jay]

game is more accessible, but blizz also fixed the long standing issue of m+ being worthless except for doing +10s for vault

[fierce elm]

You are one of the rare I have found that think opposite to the stream and thats interesting

[jovial torrent]

since shadowlands blizz, content creators, people have been talking about making the game more accessable , able to play what class u want, spec u want, adding 1% rewards makes it waaaay harder to do that

remember when everyone jumped ship to ff14 and loved that savage was more accesable, u could play what u want ect, no trash u hop into the game at raid boss

[fierce elm]

So the argument boils down to that it builds up towards playing meta-specs and that pressure

[wheat jay]

you can play what class you want tho, as there is every class, and almost every spec at the very top 0.1%, not even 1%

[jovial torrent]

u craft raid gear

[wheat jay]

and for people that don't raid, you can get mythic gear from m+ with bonus rolls too

[jovial torrent]

i just think if blizz designed around top 10% rewards and focused on the mmo grind ascpect a bit more than the twitch gamer fps top 1% mentality it would be better overall for the games design and fun

[wheat jay]

you don't even need that mythic gear, as I was doing above 1% keys in with lfr pieces?

10% is the 2500, 3000, and 3400 reward tho, there's no racing there

[fierce elm]

I get this argument, however, in reality keys have always been meta-defined the same way we see people reroll specs at 1600.

[jovial torrent]

yeh i agree that ppl will meta nomatter what

[fierce elm]

Does this mean people chase it more? Maybe, probably

[jovial torrent]

blizz shouldnt cave into that mentality tho

[fierce elm]

But blizz havent really caved in how keys look

[pseudo herald]

U get more gear then crest to upgrade, does it matter if an item is 276hc oder 276myth cuz u cant spend crest?

[fierce elm]

The amount that will get the 1% is a fairly low population, nor is the game balanced around that the same way its not balanced around RWF

[wheat jay]

around 10k people on eu

[fierce elm]

Its just that people will meta pick what the top dudes are doing regardless

[wheat jay]

as of now

[fierce elm]

This 1% is more for the hardcore community

Bridging the gap between 3k and title

[jovial torrent]

gotta say heroic lura being harder than half the mythic bosses is so fucking stupid lol

[wheat jay]

its always the case tho

[fierce elm]

Because even 3.4k to title is a big leap

[wheat jay]

hc ansurek was harder than first 4 mythic in s1 tww

nzoth hc was harder than first 4-5 mythic bosses in nyalotha

[fierce elm]

I do get the argument, but there is a playerbase up there that needs something. I think the 3.4 achievement is a GREAT way to push people further. I think 1% is a great way to bridge the gap between 3.4 and 0.1%

[wheat jay]

also, hello denathrius?

hello sylvanas

hello jailer

[fierce elm]

I have never tried pushing keys because it was 3k or title and nothing else

[jovial torrent]

it seems harder this time, i couldnt imagine carrying my dad gamer guild through hc lura

[wheat jay]

okay, in all fairness

[jovial torrent]

they overbuffed the fuck out of last 2 bosses cus of rwf

[pseudo herald]

Only hard thing ob lura was p2 where we spend like 20 pulls cuz ppl are to hyperaktiv to just stand and let the star run into beam. I loved playing the chrystal all fight like fyrall

[fierce elm]

We are gonna prog on Tuesday again on it, fun fight

[wheat jay]

i did hc lura, it is difficult, you need one person calling mechanic

[fierce elm]

Lura was always gonna be hard for casual guilds

There is a ton of things going on

The 5 people that carry crystals have to know what they are doing, the rest of the raid also has stuff to deal with

The only ones having it easy are tanks lmao

[wheat jay]

but p2 is easy af

p3 is easy af

[fierce elm]

Ignore Artji because he is always gonna say stuff like this lmfao

[wheat jay]

hardest part was telling people to stand still on marks, and not chase the planets xD

[fierce elm]

Lura is objectively a hard fight

[wheat jay]

every boss is as difficult as it is for the worst person in the raid to learn a mechanic

that kinda thing

[pseudo herald]

The 3.4 ist just like 3k last ssn, they tuned addon and keys to be played as 18 for max vault reward shit and then just went back to 10 is max vault without touching scaling again

[wheat jay]

when wiping it for a bit, it is a VERY scripted fight

[jovial torrent]

easy af , i can guarenteed 50% of my guildies wont kill it untill they are max free myth gear from vault and rocking the 10% bonus dmg stacking thing and after a few more hc lura nerfs

[wheat jay]

its chaotic in how many effects there are

[wheat jay]

and that is fine imo

it is heroic final boss of the patch

it should be difficult

[jovial torrent]

i kind of disagree, theres grinding and getting gud for a challenge, then theres so much of a wall that casuals unsub

[fierce elm]

Somewhat false as of right now

[jovial torrent]

and thats bad for wow

[wheat jay]

i think we're thinking kinda wrong about it, im thinking too elitist, you too casual

[fierce elm]

Yall need to bridge the gap a bit

[wheat jay]

in terms of accessibility of clearing the raid

[jovial torrent]

im kind of counter balancing your argument

i just want them to push away from the 1% mentality

[wheat jay]

in my eyes heroic end boss should be difficult

[jovial torrent]

and make the game more fun overall for everyone

[wheat jay]

players need something to strive for

[jovial torrent]

and if that means aiming to make top 20 or top 10% players more happy, do that

[fierce elm]

There is a very thin line to balance content

[wheat jay]

and for most guilds in the game thats curve

if you give it away for free, it loses its flavour

[fierce elm]

Because all of this is fine and dandy, but player retention is a huge factor

[magic wing]

Hc rn is worthless

[wheat jay]

especially since we're gonna have like 20% more damage

at the end of season

in raids

[fierce elm]

And the ones unsubbing because they cant hit 1% will be counteracted by the people that stay subbed between 3k and 3.4k

[magic wing]

I do it for logs and crests

[jovial torrent]

thats where they need to move to evergreen content, like ffxiv u can do ultimate raids from any expac cus gear scales and still get reward from it, without it being fomo

[fierce elm]

I do it for funsies

[pseudo herald]

But kinda true, i play fury and not in a premade, still i got 15resil. To say the 3.4 this addon is harder at the end off ssn then the 3k last ssn is wrong in my opinion

[magic wing]

Yes this

[wheat jay]

is it fomo to do heroic lura tho

[fierce elm]

Gotta see how it pans out, you might be right idk

[wheat jay]

youre not missing out on anything

[jovial torrent]

yes

[magic wing]

I wanna do old content

[jovial torrent]

u lose curve mount

[fierce elm]

But 3k to 3.4k is a big step

[fierce elm]

No curve mount here

Only achieve

[wheat jay]

ye

curve mount is last boss of expansion

[fierce elm]

So its achieve+gear

[magic wing]

The best boss fight Ive ever did was in FFXIV that priest boss hardmode

[wheat jay]

gear worthless, achieve worthless

[magic wing]

Imagine just going old mythic bosses with actual difficulty

[wheat jay]

its a feat of strength i guess

[fierce elm]

I dont even care about the achieve or gear personally, I just enjoy the people I raid with

[jovial torrent]

did they do curve mount for more than last expac raid?

[magic wing]

And scaled rewards

[jovial torrent]

i dont remember i swear some expacs they had a curve mount for each raid

[fierce elm]

Not from my knowledge

[wheat jay]

and you alienate ALL the players wanting old raid gear, like transmogs

[wheat jay]

nope

none

boss mount, maybe, but curve mount is only in last raid

[jovial torrent]

anyway, point is in .3 there will be a curve, and that will be gone, where they could make it evergreen content

[fierce elm]

There are Mythic mounta that can be argued are fomo but those can be gotten later

[wheat jay]

afaik since garrosh

[urban skiff]

we pumpin' @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

HUGE

[wheat jay]

garrosh had that korkron wolf

and since then its only last boss of expac

[fierce elm]

Garrosh was the first curve mount

iirc

[wheat jay]

yep

[pseudo herald]

Eu?

[urban skiff]

yea

[fierce elm]

So the only thing you are missing out on is achievement and gear

[pseudo herald]

Are u a 5 stack?

[urban skiff]

nop, just random pugging

[fierce elm]

Gear that is entirely mid at least in Luras case if you do M10s

Or M8*

[magic wing]

It would be separate ofc

[jovial torrent]

apparently savage difficulty in ffxiv is about 10-25% of the playerbase, mythic raid in wow is 2% get curve

[wheat jay]

.3 mount being fomo is also fine, there's like 700 mounts now, so some of them being fomo is okay, you played that content, you did the thing, you pushed for that heroic clear

[magic wing]

Que thing like ffxiv

[wheat jay]

then you'd have 2-3 bosses from EVERY expansion that you'd spam ALWAYS for specific trinket or weapon

every patch

every season

[fierce elm]

Is curve really 2%

[wheat jay]

forever

[jovial torrent]

why cant wow bridge the middle gap and make mythic raid accessable to 5 or 10%

[fierce elm]

at the end of a patch

[wheat jay]

becuase its mythic

[urban skiff]

we'

[wheat jay]

its supposed to be for tryhards

[magic wing]

Dont mean it dropping gear just crests

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald we've got a tank heal and aug

[pseudo herald]

I only got plate chars, can trade u gear - got nothing to do

[wheat jay]

noone would do old raids for funsies tho

[urban skiff]

sure thing

[wheat jay]

roleplayers maybe

[fierce elm]

They are, like I am the biggest believer anyone can hit their goals. I am going to say right now, if you put in the work and hours you can get Mythic raid, M+ title and whatever else

[jovial torrent]

like if ppl mythic raided they would probs be more invested in watching race, but very inaccessable atm

[wheat jay]

brother

[jovial torrent]

yeh im not saying noone can, im just saying more people probs should be able to

[wheat jay]

race is literally #1 event in wow

[jovial torrent]

and it would be better for teh health of the game

[pseudo herald]

Ill be online at :45 Ezlife-blackrock

[urban skiff]

where do i find you

[wheat jay]

it had like 500k viewers on twitch alone

at the same time

not even half of those people will get CE

[fierce elm]

I am also off the opinion that some things arent meant for everyone to get RIGHT NOW

[jovial torrent]

and wow has a playerbase many times over that so why arent they getting 5m viewers

[wheat jay]

because vast majority of wow players are casuals

doing their +10

[jovial torrent]

right

[fierce elm]

Why isn League of Legends getting millions of viewers

is the same argument

[wheat jay]

doing their heroic raid at slow relaxing pace

[jovial torrent]

league gets alot more than wow thats for sure lol

[fierce elm]

Yeah it also has a way bigger playerbase

[jovial torrent]

maybe a little less past few years with t1 winning everything

[fierce elm]

Like WAY bigger

[jovial torrent]

and its way bigger because they actually work around balancing the game for gold rating better

[fierce elm]

Plus, lets be real, rwf is not the best content to watch straight up

[jovial torrent]

and other factors ofc like sub accessability of not needing to level chars

[fierce elm]

That game is absurdly balanced for higher end

Im saying that as someone who loves League

[jovial torrent]

yeh i play league too

[fierce elm]

but the champs arent balanced around gold/plat players

[wheat jay]

league is 100% balanced for like diamond+ xD

[jovial torrent]

a bunch of them are

[wheat jay]

or masters

[jovial torrent]

they have simpler chars , most tank top laners, supports ect

[fierce elm]

Which is why there is such a huge champ difference to master+ and Platinum

[wheat jay]

as that bracket is where balancing matters

[jovial torrent]

chars like amumu

[fierce elm]

Its also a simpler game in general

[wheat jay]

low elo it doesnt matter for people

[urban skiff]

that's a priest!

[jovial torrent]

they 100% do make balance changes with lower brackets in mind and them some chars they make balance changes with top level in mind, like azir and ryze

[fierce elm]

But anyways, every game is walking the thin line of balancing casuals/semihardcore/hardcore

[pseudo herald]

Ezlive-blackrock , im online

Yeah i made a typo

[fierce elm]

Which is why certain goals arent gotten by certain people

[jovial torrent]

pretty much, i just think wow should push away from the 1% a bit more than they are currently

[fierce elm]

League has these, WoW has these

[jovial torrent]

they were starting to do it, but then backtracked randomly

[fierce elm]

They added two achievements to a gamemode that was dying post 3k

[jovial torrent]

they want to get the classic wow community to retail

[urban skiff]

trying to find you when you're alliance

[fierce elm]

and this has given M+ a less falloff

Because your average 3k guy has a reason to keep going for 3.4k

and at 3.4k they can decide if they want 1% or not

[jovial torrent]

i feel like m+ is the most played gamemode in wow atm and for quite a while, mythic raids and pvp past 2k

[fierce elm]

But nobody should feel limited because of spec chosen, alas that is the type of online world we live in

[fierce elm]

It is

But it also drops off a cliff at 3k

Or it used to

[jovial torrent]

id argue its that way because its more casually accessable

which is lacking in other aspects of the game

[fierce elm]

The same way raids drop off a cliff at curve

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald here

[solemn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-says-saying-no-outfit7-gif-24967985

[urban skiff]

gogo

[fierce elm]

It is, but there also has to be player retention

[urban skiff]

it's so modern to call repeated competition "retention" 😄

[jovial torrent]

personally i think thats the big problem, they want retention and MAU and the way they go about it is wrong

[fierce elm]

As someone who used to hit 3k and quit because there was no rewards*

[fierce elm]

I mean this is retention

[urban skiff]

Tennis is just engaging in player retention by spreading out all the tournaments 😄

[fierce elm]

How else do you keep people that hit 3k and stop without introducing another thing

[jovial torrent]

its the mentality of less ppl playing more vs more ppl dipping in and out same MAU logins but very different games

by making it fun and possible to do on alts is one way

but imo i think that the game could be better when ppl feel like they can step away from wow and come back to it like a month later

[fierce elm]

Whats the point of getting to 3k on an alt if you already have it on your main

There are no rewards there, nothing to gain except player power that gives you nothing new except you can do the same dungeons on a different spec

[jovial torrent]

there was a interview with yoshi p where he said he is happy for people and encourages ppl to take break fromt he ffxiv grind unsub a few months and come back, wow is the complete opposite mentality and design aspect, U MUST grind every week for vaults ect

the point is its a game and they should make it fun to do so

not drag you along with badges and treats

[fierce elm]

But, whats the point if there is no reward

[jovial torrent]

thats overall where i think games have gone to shit

noones in it for the love of the game anymore, its all social media prestiege and rewards

[fierce elm]

Yeah

And that is tied to another philosophy more about the game industry as a whole

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald mendora is our wife by the way

[fierce elm]

Unfortunately the game has to be looked at through this lens

[jovial torrent]

the game industry is kind of shifting

[fierce elm]

Thus, giving this moment where past 3k there isnt anything without these achievements

[jovial torrent]

if u look at the rise and popularity of party games

[pseudo herald]

u da pala?

[urban skiff]

aug

[jovial torrent]

and indy games, they are taking a huge margin of steam sales now

[fierce elm]

Thus leading back to the thing again, whats the point at that level

[jovial torrent]

like more games were spent on AA games on steam than AAA games this year or somthing like that

less on games as a service, more on short experience type games

mmo's and games as a service are losing popularity overall

and i think chasing the 1% grind type players is the reason for that

[fierce elm]

WoW is peaking higher than TWW so far

which peaked higher than DF

which peaked higher than SL

[jovial torrent]

ye but classic gamemodes are dieing and ppl are shuffling back to retail, i skipped half of SL and all of DF to play classic exclusively

[fierce elm]

Yeah I cant comment on that because I dont play classic

[jovial torrent]

so maybe more in retail but less wow players overall

[fierce elm]

But Retail has been popping off since DF

Compared to SL and BfA

[jovial torrent]

or maybe more overall dunno, the worlds pretty shit atm so im sure more ppl would rather play mmo than go out to bars

[fierce elm]

This does sound more like gripes with games rather than WoW overall

[jovial torrent]

kind of, i am very done with gacha, paid dlc, microtransactions ect

[fierce elm]

Makes sense

[jovial torrent]

u could get a full voice acted expansion of gw1 for like £30 that had multiple armour sets ect that werent locked behind the in game shop

[wheat jay]

im back

[jovial torrent]

the real question is can i be assed to q shuffle right now and have my teammates randomly get domed by MM hunters, disc priest is slightly better now since mw was nerfed but is that enough

[wheat jay]

had to do shit at work smh

[urban skiff]

ez life pangolife

[wheat jay]

that toy is so funny xD

[wheat jay]

good'ol gw1

with elite sets being 100h of grinding for one

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[jovial torrent]

i still need to grab that toy

[wheat jay]

but man warrior elite kurzick armor was just next level clean design

[pseudo herald]

i just wanna be undercover between bm pets

[jovial torrent]

im sure the second i grab it the cd will be nerfed

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm i found dk

dk is doing 19s 🙁

[urban skiff]

why can i only pick these up sometimes?

[jovial torrent]

yeh elite kurzic with felblade, then switched it up with some primeval

[wheat jay]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[jovial torrent]

u have to cc those

[wheat jay]

i have primeval set in gw2 😄

[pseudo herald]

just cc em, knock up and back will trigger

[wheat jay]

interrupt, cc, knockup, knockback

and so on

silence

i believe you can knock them up, or racial sweep

[jovial torrent]

the visual wasnt very clear for me either lol, the first time i went to run over tham i got the buff cus someone happened to leg sweep or somthing as a ran over em

u can kick , knockup daze stun ect

[wheat jay]

I wonder how gw3 will work

Hopefully b2p again

Cuz man f2p games always have some p2w shit like lost ark:(

[jovial torrent]

yeh im not sure, i kind of hope its a bit like u buy the game and they release story packs/dlc

[wheat jay]

Ye like gw2

[jovial torrent]

should probs make it f2p till like mid max lvl

after a few months

[wheat jay]

Trial ye

[jovial torrent]

imagine 2030 we get riot mmo and gw3 lol

[fierce elm]

Yoda probs

[urban skiff]

we gaming now

[idle falcon]

xd

[jovial torrent]

is that on ur aug

[fierce elm]

gamer huge

[jovial torrent]

aug honestly does sound kind of fun from the outside

[urban skiff]

yea

[urban skiff]

it's like, the more good the tank and group is, the more fun it is

likewise, if you get stuck with a 1 pull tank then it's sleep city

[jovial torrent]

whats the mobility like, u stuck casting in place alot?

wana play arcane but u are rooted to the ground for most of your rotation

[urban skiff]

never ever

half the rotation is just movement

[jovial torrent]

damn, stop selling me aug!

[urban skiff]

you can cast hover while casting your spells so you don't even have to cancel to move, except the charged spells

hang on, i can stream it

[fast rover]

Is arms and fury currently fun in BG blitz and shuffle? Working out an alt to play.

[pseudo herald]

where

[urban skiff]

twitch.tv/proteandruid

should be up now

[jovial torrent]

yep i see it

[urban skiff]

what was the music you listened to when you last streamed? i'll pull that up

[jovial torrent]

uh , dragonland was a bunch of it but im fine with ur music

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay

hear that? SOMEBODY likes my music

[jovial torrent]

XD

[wheat jay]

trash that two people find good doesn't mean its not still trash

[urban skiff]

shit almost got that grip

[jovial torrent]

im just impressed i managed to go into midnight wanting to play the classes that eneded up being the most buggy/badly designed. might even have to actually level and gear a pve war

im sure they will fix dk at some point tho, not sure they will manage to fix arcane before .1

[fierce elm]

Where the 100 gecs stream

[fierce elm]

Ya hopefully they fix uhdk

Shit is absurd lmfao

[jovial torrent]

its honestly impressive how badly they broke the ghouls getting buffed

[fierce elm]

It is wild

[jovial torrent]

buffed 1 at a time which takes longer than the actual duration of army lol

[urban skiff]

what

[jovial torrent]

dots literally doing nothing

[fierce elm]

It worked before with only dread plague being bugged

[wheat jay]

guildie mentioned sth with army being bugged

[jovial torrent]

making DnD back into a part of the goddamn rotation

[wheat jay]

told them to use the 45sec cooldown and then army, and apparently that fixes it

[jovial torrent]

yeh , theres a thing where all your ghouls would get buffed, but it was also buffing they player that they didnt want

so when they fixed that they broke it completely, so now it buffs each ghoul one at a time per gcd

[wheat jay]

lmao

[jovial torrent]

rather than just buffing all ghouls

[wheat jay]

brother dh had two big bugs

one, they didnt nerf talent like they said in notes, 2nd devour was giving double the fury in meta

xD

[jovial torrent]

the other is when ur hero spec mograine does his thing it makes ur big dot dread plague or whatever do 0 dmg

[wheat jay]

so dh was doing way too much dmg hahahaha

[jovial torrent]

this patch was supposed to be like a 6% buff its ended up being like a 15% nerf to rider

its ok tho cus every time dk or somthing gets bugged it delays them working on spriest

[urban skiff]

who's my other viewer?

[green anchor]

a scam bot

[jovial torrent]

maybe not, they havent said anything yet

been followin since 18th

[green anchor]

I'm joking lol

[urban skiff]

aww

🙁

now it's 4, what the he

[green anchor]

i just logged in and replied to the first thing i saw

[jovial torrent]

uh oh ealer dedge, surviiive

[urban skiff]

lol

i swap to healing when that happens

@wheat jay mick just rockin'

[jovial torrent]

thought id take a peek at the dk discord, "slowmode enabled"

[wheat jay]

eww

[fierce elm]

A lot is

Buff to pets not working, hero talent bugging out highest damage plague

Putrefy sometimes missing

The magussi just do w.e they want

the dt pet just gaining random attack soeed

Gargoyle just fuck offing into nowhere

[urban skiff]

hpal accidentally nerfed damage by 58% in pvp

[fierce elm]

thats fixed

lmao

Here are the bugs so far

[jovial torrent]

what was the hpala nerf, did they break armaments

or was it judgement related

[fierce elm]

Pretty sure it was both but I can be wrong

Blood dk got a bug that is a buff lmao

[jovial torrent]

woudlnt be suprised, hpala is miserable in shuffle might not actually play it past 1800 for the mog

[urban skiff]

they removed the aura buff to healers where they get +1% damage per character level

[jovial torrent]

did they remove that from just pala?

[green anchor]

the crusader streams would be so spicy

but he's not been on for a while

[wheat jay]

well, dh got fixed, i wonder if warcraftlogs will delete logs from this week

as they've done that few times in the past

or rather invalidate them

as everything is bugged as fuck xD

[jovial torrent]

lol, they probs should

they need to enable moutins in amirdrasill raid sheesh, such a walk without spammable mobility

guna see if coucil is actually soloable now

[urban skiff]

how bugged?

[wheat jay]

bugged enough to do 10% more dmg than it should lmao

[young bone]

lmao

[lavish quest]

Did afro break 3400 yet?

[pseudo herald]

if i can reach 15 resil pugged he can get 3.4 premade easy

[wheat jay]

is afro playing premade?

[pseudo herald]

thats what i thought

[lavish quest]

Afro is getting carried by echo too

Clearly

[wheat jay]

i have done like 2-3 16 keys with afro

[pseudo herald]

did he swap arms already?

[wheat jay]

afro is a tank

blood dk

[lavish quest]

No, I showed him the truth and the light of tanking

[wheat jay]

tanking keys is fun

tanking raids is not fun

[lavish quest]

Tanking raids is great

Raiding is not great

[wheat jay]

nah

raid dpsing is cool

cuz you can get some decent logs you know

[lavish quest]

Eh, I'm not a log chaser

[wheat jay]

its fun

[lavish quest]

I just like the control/being the big brain one

[wheat jay]

good luck on mythic salhadar

its basically a tank boss

[lavish quest]

I don't generally bother with mythic anymore

May pug myth chim

[jovial torrent]

logs are fun but man the gimmicks and stuff ppl do, padding, getting ppl to not attack stuff , certain class stacks, power infusion

[young bone]

dps is a team effort

[jovial torrent]

parsing in sod was really fun but also really silly just kill time, can u kill the boss before ur dps cooldowns run out, or just after ur cd's are back up

i was offtanking eranikus as lock so no hope of parsing

[wheat jay]

i think my best parses were nyalotha and nathria

[pseudo herald]

those 2007 bossnames

[wheat jay]

right now its kinda ass

[urban skiff]

@jovial torrent are you sold on auggie yet?

[jovial torrent]

i like the look of it, i just dunno if i can bring myself to grind vault on that many chars

i wouldnt mind playing war, healer priest, dk , mage or aug

the biggest unfun part of mage is just being paper, in the 15 skyreach i took a big chunk of dmg from the bleed, then i walked up the stairs and got instakilled by a instant shuriken toss

[wheat jay]

that's every classs in high keys

[urban skiff]

I feel like aug is more different

[jovial torrent]

moreso mage tho

[wheat jay]

on 18 seat i got hit by the cat on 2nd boss right as the fight ended and died in 3 ticks

on a fairly tanky dh

[jovial torrent]

mage is highest first deaths in raid and m+ i forget what other class was close

as u can see, mage is doing very well at being number one floor heater

[wheat jay]

i kinda noticed that classes with either leech or strong defensives tend to sruvive

cuz in higher keys leech actaully makes a differnce

[jovial torrent]

u know whats crazy, i have 1 leech piece, and it made up 8% of my mages healing that run

i got bis shoulders in vault but i kind of dont want to take them and lose my mythic tier with leech

would be nice if we could grind and add leech avoidance to gear if we want

or just delete the random affix's other than indestructable

[urban skiff]

10% of 1 billion dps is still 100 million hps

[jovial torrent]

mage is hurtin from versa not being a decent stat, and the removal of mirror img dmg reduction, also lose healing on iceblock

[urban skiff]

so the more damage scales up, the less leech it takes to cover whatever pitiful and unscaling health pool we have

[jovial torrent]

just realised by bars are bugged and the blizzard art bar has returned in a negative alpha

[pseudo herald]

edit mode , enable artthingy - disable again and its gone

[jovial torrent]

ok opening and closing edit mode makes it vanish

[wet pollen]

What’s all this weapon upgrade stuff I keep seeing? Is it something for PvP or just PvE?

[pseudo herald]

both

[urban skiff]

https://www.twitch.tv/proteandruid/clip/SweetNaiveCurlewPupper-1Wb6Tq7nop-9ADXE

look at that healer go

what a noob

[pseudo herald]

but its still 4 weeks out iirc

[jovial torrent]

lmao, yoink

[urban skiff]

You can even see her fall right at the end

[wet pollen]

So it’s pve we have to do for PvP upgrades? I thought they were done with that

[urban skiff]

no it just drops from pvp

someone on shaman discord already got two from like 6 shuffles

[pseudo herald]

andu can already upgrade shit?

[urban skiff]

i don't know

[wet pollen]

Ah gotcha, still a bit strange tho feels unnecessary when the PvP gearing system was fine before

[urban skiff]

figure look up anybody with playtime since patch day and check if they have upgraded weap or nah

[pseudo herald]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/eu/ravencrest/béstworld

his mainhand seems to

[worldly oriole]

i already upgraded my mainhand

[wet pollen]

What item level does it go to in PvP?

[urban skiff]

298

[pseudo herald]

i need to farm conq cap

[wheat jay]

@lavish quest

[urban skiff]

hnnnnnngggg

[urban skiff]

on what char?

[pseudo herald]

war

[urban skiff]

how close are you?

[urban skiff]

After I cook up some quick lunch we're gonna play a bit of arenas i think, got disc+enh

[pseudo herald]

aigh

[lavish quest]

Some might say, too big

:)

[wheat jay]

Shivers

https://tenor.com/view/takakeisho-angry-hamster-sumo-gif-26657864

Me looking at big pull when i have meta ready

[lavish quest]

Just dox'd yourself m8

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/saulxyz/status/2047179937950711871?s=20

saul (@saulxyz)

💀

X · Apr 23, 2026, 5:05 AM

[pseudo herald]

seems like mm is back on the menu

[wet pollen]

Dang MM hunter going good

[wheat jay]

Is it a bug abuse or what?

[worldly oriole]

mm was good before it lol

I gained like 800 the day before Patch on mine

[pseudo herald]

thats the power of black arrow

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/Zen_lyn/status/2047080128321147314?s=20

Zenlyn (@Zen_lyn)

haha it's fine i didnt even wanna see my renew or pom anyway :D

/cry in holy priest tears

X · Apr 22, 2026, 10:28 PM

this shit is annoying as fuck btw

i dont wanna see garbage debuffs on my raid frames as a dps

tf is that

[pseudo herald]

seems to be bugged

same as private auras on pala boss

[elfin surge]

yeah twitter is full of people crying about how buggy the patch is

pretty funny

but expected at this point

[pseudo herald]

u know whats not buggy?

[elfin surge]

NA is for live bug testing

[pseudo herald]

my pp, and u like it

[wheat jay]

Just gotta chill and wait

[jovial torrent]

what sort of crits u hitting with black arrow @worldly oriole

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/Feedgodx/status/2047139321799430565?s=20

Feed (@Feedgodx)

.

X · Apr 23, 2026, 2:23 AM

another one

LOL MM HUNTER THAT BROKEN?

[jovial torrent]

they gained some buff that makes black arrow gaina bunch of dmg

i think its hitting like rsk levels

[lavish quest]

Aside from lag spikes last night, keys were alright at least

[elfin surge]

been seeing a lot of game crashes happening in shuffle

[wheat jay]

Just gotta chill and wait for fixes thats all

They already fixed like half of new bugs

[pseudo herald]

potatoe addons causing that

[wheat jay]

And ye crashes are from addons so not on blizz i guess

[elfin surge]

my nameplates were bugged on tuesday not showing cast bars which sucked

addons are cooked

[pseudo herald]

is shuffle mmr uncapped yet?

[jovial torrent]

nope , slowly getting like +100 ea week

[pseudo herald]

well im not tilting myself then

[jovial torrent]

it is possible to hit elite, if ur literally like top 3 at ur spec

[wheat jay]

I had gained 20

In 2 weeks

Or 3

[pseudo herald]

im the kind of player that gets 2.4 end off season , but before that im not skilled enough

[wheat jay]

Passive mmr gain

[jovial torrent]

ive accepted next time i q priest imguna randomly lose a bunch then have to reclimb

[wheat jay]

Probably easier in 3s

[jovial torrent]

yeh 3v3 is like capped at 2600 and shuffle around 2300

[worldly oriole]

no idea bro. but I think it chunks hardest on rapid fire @jovial torrent

[wheat jay]

but noone to play 3s with

[worldly oriole]

there's a talent that makes rapid fire cast a black arrow i think

[jovial torrent]

gaddamn

honestly good for me, i just need to convince artji to play mm, not dirty surv 😛

[worldly oriole]

I should read more lol

[pseudo herald]

that guy was naked

black arrow hits like a truck

[jovial torrent]

how much does it crit, like 100-150k right>?

[wheat jay]

lmao

that's more than collapsing star

fully stacked xD

[pseudo herald]

devour is meme specc in pvp

[jovial torrent]

black arrow gives like 100% of their tier set bonus now or somthing

[north thicket]

wait are 298 ilev weapons already in?

[wheat jay]

its got buffs in pvp now

namely, healing

a lot of it

[pseudo herald]

by pressing immo aura?

[jovial torrent]

"Precise Shots has been updated – No longer reduces the global cooldown and no longer provides bonuses to auto shot. Damage bonus reduced to 50% (was 100%). Now affects Kill Shot and Black Arrow at 100% effectiveness." this was the change that buffed it

[wheat jay]

ye

24% healing over 6s

2 charges

30s cd

so

it MIGHT be decent now

[north thicket]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/298-conquest-weapon-upgrade-works-btw/2296163

wasn't the plan to build this Ascendant Nilhammer first? whatever it is, few weeks

[wheat jay]

pvp and pve use different things afaik

[jovial torrent]

not really a big deal pvp getting it early since u cant really use the wep in pve

[fierce elm]

It would be what, 270 something now?

273?

If it upgrades the track too, idk if it does

[pseudo herald]

it only affects the scalerd ilvl

[fierce elm]

Ah yeah makes sense

[jovial torrent]

inb4 raids are bugged and count u as in pvp if u have warmode flagged

[wheat jay]

would be nice

i'd have more dmg

[north thicket]

so damage seen yesterday in few random bgs played is amplified not only by the class bugs/buffs but also the new weapons

[jovial torrent]

id be cheeky and take my priest into m+ with all my pvp gear

most ppl wont have wep yet

[fierce elm]

Yeah and changes to specs

MM is entirelt due to changes

[north thicket]

pfff what a mess

[wheat jay]

doable

for sure

+10s are doable in honor gear

[jovial torrent]

i dunno why this makes me laugh so much, but outlaw rogues have became fartmancers, needing to sit in their cloud for bonus dmg, and all party members can see it

[worldly oriole]

did bomb get changed? a sub rogue bombed like 3 times yesterday

[jovial torrent]

when they pop adrenalin rush it gives em a bunch of bonuses

[worldly oriole]

in a short period

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay does this look raw to you?

[jovial torrent]

and drops a cloud

[wheat jay]

what is that

[fierce elm]

Sandwich

[wheat jay]

RAW

[urban skiff]

Toasting bread

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/ramsay-raw-gif-13771788

[wheat jay]

nah for real tho

[fierce elm]

Its bread bro

[wheat jay]

youre being soooooooo salty over that raw bleeding steak you sent some time ago smh

[fierce elm]

It wasnt raw

[fierce elm]

its so absurd lmfao

[wheat jay]

it was 100% raw

[fierce elm]

They remove 80% of DK pet visibility for everyone else

[urban skiff]

I feel like you missed the opportunity to call me raw

[wheat jay]

isnt it called blue steak or sth?

[urban skiff]

😁

[fierce elm]

but Outlaw fartbombing and MW fartbombing is here

[fierce elm]

That is raw buddy

[wheat jay]

that's for your wife to make those calls brother 😉

[fierce elm]

His was mid-rare rare

[urban skiff]

I just enjoy memeing. I thought it was funny when i sent a pic of a shoe

[wheat jay]

that one was kinda funny lmao

[pseudo herald]

where i my frenchtoast?

[wheat jay]

i recently became a fan of taste of cucumber

in sauces and in foods

adds such a nice freshness in taste

[urban skiff]

It's avocado toast

[jovial torrent]

im all about cherry tomato's

[green anchor]

i love dried tomatos in my salad

[jovial torrent]

good bell peppers too

[green anchor]

and black olives

[jovial torrent]

i reecently bought a bag of MSG, gamechanger

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-msg-cocaine-of-cooking-gif-14767225509662422148

[jovial torrent]

its odd, its like adding an inbetween of steak and mushroom flavour to food, egg fried rice evolved

i even put it on some kebab meat and its great

[wheat jay]

addict smh

[fierce elm]

Uhm wheres the protein

what the hell

@copper fox post your breakfast

Do not play San in pvp @green wharf

[fierce elm]

ITS SO ASS

[urban skiff]

man i just wrap mine so I can fire and forget in the oven

or i just wangjangle the bacon in a pan and then forget

[elfin herald]

is this breakfast?

[urban skiff]

Lunch, i presume?

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm man wtf these animals makign smh

i made some tortillas yesterday, with chicken, mozarella, garlic/yogurt sauce

[urban skiff]

just all the carbs and fats

[wheat jay]

some spices

[urban skiff]

i make tacos all the time but I'm out of a good oil for my guacamole and i accidentally ate all 700g of chicken thighs last night

so we turning avocados into toast now

[elfin herald]

only chefs talks here

[pseudo herald]

it is, just some green long thingy , bacon creamcheese

[green wharf]

why not

[wheat jay]

silly little accident

happens

[urban skiff]

just slipped

[pseudo herald]

i need to preserve my belly, cant lean down to much

[fierce elm]

its ass

Less tanky, less damage

[green wharf]

i want to know how much they are behind

im fucking tired of riders

[elfin herald]

im will be inspired in you guys, my breakfast is coffe and cigarette 💀

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald we're almost done and ready if you still want conq cap

[pseudo herald]

sure

[urban skiff]

with the addition of the 298 upgade thingy, should we prioritize buying trinket(s) now?

upgrade from 276 to 298 trinket vs upgrading 276 other piece to 289?

[elfin surge]

white monster and nicotine bis breakfast

[deep stream]

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald group up under custom

[wheat jay]

You gotta evolve brother

Fruity ones are superior

[urban skiff]

My niece mixes white monster and strawberry breezers

[wheat jay]

Especially peach

[urban skiff]

she's 14 though so

[elfin surge]

hell no

artificial peach flavor is so bad in anything

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/where's-the-peachy-keen-love-peachy-keen-monster-monster-energy-monster-energy-drink-gif-17880010065789763120

[wheat jay]

Illegal in poland

[wheat jay]

Hellllllll yeah brother

[urban skiff]

illegal to mix monster and breezers?

[wheat jay]

Peach, cherry, mango, and blueberry flavours in energy drinks are goated

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842189724281471037/1298092470386556969/attachment.gif

[wheat jay]

For kids below to buy energy drinks, with the exception of special ones with less caffeine and taurine

[urban skiff]

Oh

[wheat jay]

Its soda at that point i guess

[green wharf]

they banned that in the uk

[urban skiff]

tbh I don't think taurine makes any difference and I already quench my body in pepsi max so that's a lot of caffeine

[green wharf]

they also made a law that if you ar born in 2009 i think you cant buy cigarretes anymore

[urban skiff]

Stream is up when ezlife comes back from the can

[pseudo herald]

logging

[urban skiff]

@green wharf twitch.tv/proteandruid I heard it's getting more expensive to play WoW for you, so you can watch the stream to feel better 🙂

[green wharf]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEHryCXWcAAMJwH.webp

i need to got ow ork now anyway

[urban skiff]

tryhard or good?

[jovial torrent]

ur about to see the mm buffs

[lavish quest]

I've learned now is not the time to pvp

So back to M+ talk @elfin surge

[jovial torrent]

the gaddamn airhorns, WHAAAAAA, WHAAAA

[elfin surge]

understandable

[lavish quest]

But hey, at least I got 3400 before they got the achievement working

[jovial torrent]

i feel like u should change your healing nd dmg taken numbers, they just scroll over the top of your ui

[urban skiff]

I changed it before but I think adv interface options dropped it somehow

worse is the cooldowns are covering my bar

[jovial torrent]

also never go hpriest focused will too stronk

[latent fossil]

Arms

[wheat jay]

Ill try to get resil 17 this week haha

Cuz resil 18 is possible but not probable

Simply cuz of time but maybe

[urban skiff]

this felt more normal

did they buff enhancement?

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay these guys had a plan

[jovial torrent]

very nicu @urban skiff , u need to stop tunnel healers tho, after karmas gone ww flop

[urban skiff]

I can't hit WW

their FoF is 100% everything i have, if I had stormbolt it would be different

[jovial torrent]

cant parry from behind

can also just hit dh while fof is up

[urban skiff]

no but I also can't get behind most of the time

[jovial torrent]

might try pug dreamrift today see if i get lucky with bonus roll

[urban skiff]

@pseudo herald it just showed up right now

[jovial torrent]

innteresting

lol, goodbye mage

[urban skiff]

the fuck happened

[jovial torrent]

the mage did nothing

[urban skiff]

I swear my brain is too slow for this

[jovial torrent]

he didnt try to blink kite alter or block

[urban skiff]

I think he was kicked on frost or the paladin was going to bubble him and realized he couldn't?

[jovial torrent]

possibly, second i hear shaman cd im blinking or altering

did u ge a shard for wep

[urban skiff]

no, it's a tooltip bug

open close rated pvp page enough and it'll pop in as a reward

[jovial torrent]

aaahh, shame

[pseudo herald]

doesnt show on my panel

[jovial torrent]

sit on bm here @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

will do

i love my instant static macro

it's goat

[jovial torrent]

u can switch to druid if he does somthing crazy like run in melee

but switch back after he gets bark and stuff up

now why did u run at the druid, i said sit bm unless healer comes to you

[lavish quest]

Haven't tried a 17 will decide when I do

But PSA

Don't do 10s

[fierce elm]

Why lmao

[latent fossil]

How are people getting the 5 shits so fast

I played for 5 hours last night and got 1

[pseudo herald]

i just suck

[jovial torrent]

rng i guess, i got like 0 dawnlight manaflux on my mage after like 40 m+ , my dk instantly got 3

[lavish quest]

I did a 10 on my alt, pwar. Invited people 2500-3100.
NO ONE WAS TELLING ME THEY WERE ALL DOING A ZERO TO HERO BUT BE FUCKING USELESS CHALLENGE

[jovial torrent]

or somthing bugged on some chars which wouldnt suprise me

[urban skiff]

try and keep him from restealth

[lavish quest]

No one else was CCing balls so it was just me. Mobs were getting 3-8 stacks like every time

Once they got all 10 cuz all of my shit was down

[fierce elm]

uh

[jovial torrent]

not worth if he wants to run off liek a idiot for restealth his hunter will die, or mendora can swp him

[fierce elm]

balls?

[lavish quest]

We still timed it with 19 deaths

[urban skiff]

nah, i didn't have the taunt on my ele

[lavish quest]

Xal affix

The balls

[fierce elm]

OH THOSE BALLS

[urban skiff]

was ideal lobby for taunt

[fierce elm]

i was like ”no boss has this”

[urban skiff]

glad dream is alive

[lavish quest]

There was a caster mob like 30 yds away so I pinged it so someone could kick it (also none of them really pressed kick)

So the mage poly'd it to full instead

So we just had to 1v1 the fuckin thing instead lmfao

Even 3k players are such creatures these days

Are these real shoulders?

[jovial torrent]

looks like a texture glitch

[lavish quest]

This was the appearance I got from the coin of many faces

[latent fossil]

the what

[lavish quest]

Also phone auto corrected coin, spelt correctly, to chin

[jovial torrent]

they look like wotlk ones

u know the dks in wotlk naxx

[green wharf]

homie is using the nostalgia set

[lavish quest]

Ye, looks like those but the mop texture on em

[green wharf]

do you want some pixels bro

[jovial torrent]

this shit just diff colour

[lavish quest]

I think it's the shoulders on the right but they put the mop dung texture on them lol

[urban skiff]

this is just painful

[jovial torrent]

almost looks like they accidently reversed the texture

@urban skiff maybe i can heal a few for fun? get my cap on priest before hoppin in solo

if waifu doesnt mind

[urban skiff]

we're about to pick up kids

[jovial torrent]

ah damn, maybe later then, might try see if i can get in a mythic dreamrift run

[urban skiff]

if your aim is to quickly cap before shuffle then we can play later, sure

figured you'd cap via shuffle

[jovial torrent]

i could do either, both my priests are at 2k so not very chill

[urban skiff]

there's also 2s if you don't have amazing rating from trill

[jovial torrent]

got to like 1950 mmr there lol

[urban skiff]

looks like it's another 3 weeks before conq cap lifts

[jovial torrent]

lost 1 game

[urban skiff]

ah, undead priest, not harandar

raranir

frafranarr?

[jovial torrent]

honestly im not even sure, haranar i think

silly troll mud ppl

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B7c9qJcRnVk?feature=share free monster tech just dropped

[wheat jay]

@lavish quest come eu

[green anchor]

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[wheat jay]

gaming?

[green anchor]

fuckass game patch

[wheat jay]

hmm

i saw some clip from bic saying sth about double pet

[green anchor]

and game still crashes in shuffle

🤣

[elfin surge]

games not playable

[wheat jay]

have you read comments?

[elfin surge]

take a week off

[wheat jay]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

holy fuck

10/10

also ngl

i have no clue what kind of bizarre not supported for 10 years by now weird ass junky addons people are using

[green anchor]

which one

The Blackest of Arrows

[wheat jay]

but i have had zero ui issues lmao

[green anchor]

there's like 5 comments

[wheat jay]

and i have like 100 addons

[green anchor]

mvq not popular enough

[wheat jay]

bug abuse

with defensives

that is 100% bug abuse

so that guy is an idiot lmao

[green anchor]

I have had one UI issue since reset

and that's the ''art'' reappearing on the Action Bar 1

[wheat jay]

maybe if people stopped using old ass broken addons that are not supported anymore, they wouldnt have 20 crashes...

all the bugs i got in the last 2h

oh no, deja character stats

boohooo

[green anchor]

I have that one

I'm a bug abuser

[wheat jay]

lmao

also, let me check if hunters even played that talent

that he talks about xD

i'm gonna go ahead and say that people started bug abusing the fuck out of it

👍

[elfin surge]

i love bug abusing

abused the shit outta double zerker bug

[wheat jay]

OH SUDDENLY PEOPLE STOPPED PLAYING SAC!?!??!?!?!?!?!?1

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE BROTHER

FOR SURE

hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[wheat jay]

holy fuck