pvp

[magic wing]

True

Still remember how op it was on Rezan in AD

Prolly same on PoS 2nd boss

[wheat jay]

Best nelf perk is dropping aggro xD

I throw in my full burst before tank gets aggro, i meld it all instantly

[jovial torrent]

they broke that in m+ didnt they? also shaing cd with invis pot or somthing

[wheat jay]

Invi pot uses battle potion cooldown

There was vanish pot iirc but i dont use it

[magic wing]

I HATED invis pots

[fierce elm]

Tell me about it

[magic wing]

Was a meta for a time

[wheat jay]

Hahahaha

[magic wing]

In Legion/BfA

[wheat jay]

Collapsing star instantly on a pack, all mobs go on me

[fierce elm]

Yesterday was not a good key day

[wheat jay]

No

Too many idiots

Actual idiots

[fierce elm]

OH WELL WE GO AGAIN

[lavish quest]

The 1 key I did, I barely timed. So was good enough

[wheat jay]

How can someone die on last boss in seat

To a laser...

[fierce elm]

I think I timed 2 keys out of like

8?

10?

But it happens

[lavish quest]

Oof

[wheat jay]

3482 cutoff now

So half 17s

[lavish quest]

Well, I ain't half bad at this brew thing

:^)

[fierce elm]

One was my fault so cant really hate on anyone for it

The seat was my problem that made it

[wheat jay]

Hmm?

[fierce elm]

But then the priest dying last boss solidified it

I missed 1%

shouldnt have MISSED

[wheat jay]

Oh right

[fierce elm]

But it was still timeable if priest didnt die

[wheat jay]

Well if pala didnt die twice on fucking 3rd boss

[fierce elm]

Had like 3:10-3:30 on Lura

which is fine

[stuck mulch]

pretty funny how the tanks in this discord are somewhat on the same rio atm

you guys have more than me since i cant binge as much

my brain just melts too fast

[fierce elm]

Dont compare me to the fotm specs thanks

[lavish quest]

Who said I binged? 😉

Just ran keys

[stuck mulch]

you binge 100%

[fierce elm]

Plus Leland is a tank main

[lavish quest]

[stuck mulch]

[fierce elm]

So yeah lmfao

[stuck mulch]

imagine not being a noob tank

[wheat jay]

And i had to almost solo dps it...

[fierce elm]

Alas we go again, my blood dk will RISE

[lavish quest]

But yall got the benefit of your echo teammates and "friends"

[wheat jay]

All 17s and 18s doable with afro for sure

[lavish quest]

I'm out in these mines SOLO

[fierce elm]

I did 2 keys with Artji lmfao

One seat with group

rest was SOLO

[stuck mulch]

my friend is my GF who plays BM hunter. and she only got 3k

[lavish quest]

And the rest with echo teammates

[fierce elm]

I am being meta-checked in LFG rn

[lavish quest]

I find the most absolute jank creatures, and join their keys

[jovial torrent]

id be kind of tempted to heal m+ but id need to learn a diff playstyle for it, i dont like mouseover for arena but i feel like mouseover is best by far for m+

[fierce elm]

See them not invite me, then invite a brewmaster after 4 minutes

😠

[wheat jay]

Me playing with afro means he needs to find 3 humans not 4

[lavish quest]

This happens to me as brew lmfao

Not 5k io

Rejected

[fierce elm]

MY BAD FOR PLAYING BLOOD DK BRO WAIT 20 MINUTES LONGER THEN SUCK MY NUTS

[stuck mulch]

just do keys 2am

no tanks in sight

insta invite

[lavish quest]

You should try brew

:)

[fierce elm]

Yeah no lmfao

I will never fotm reroll to achieve any goals that I want to achieve

[jovial torrent]

just switch to unholy 👍

[fierce elm]

because that is mad lame

I pick my spec and run it

[fierce elm]

Even worse

[stuck mulch]

frost isthe way

[fierce elm]

Instead of waiting 5 minutes it is now waiting 10 hours

[lavish quest]

Idk, I never liked blood

[stuck mulch]

shoot that dragon and ninja pull

[lavish quest]

So bold choice

[fierce elm]

Blood is fun tbh

[jovial torrent]

i like blood but they made it too squishy now i think

[fierce elm]

It is a bit dicey here and there

[lavish quest]

YOU FOTMED TO UHDK

[fierce elm]

but its perfectly fine

[fierce elm]

The wheel rolled that one

[jovial torrent]

im just glad kiting packs isnt really a thing anymore

[fierce elm]

(It only had fotm prepatch specs on it)

[fierce elm]

It is

You absolutely kite certain packs or DIE

[stuck mulch]

fucking skyreach, AA

[jovial torrent]

not as bad as shadowlands tho with dh constantly flying

[fierce elm]

Skyreach, AA, Spire, uh what else

[stuck mulch]

what do we kite in spire?

[fierce elm]

The tank debuff on the 2nd pull

It shreds ya

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

So you can kite it to make it easier for the healer

[stuck mulch]

the spiders?

[fierce elm]

Nope

The guards above

Have a tank debuff, you can kite it out

[lavish quest]

All the cool tanks, play all of the tanks, so I'm learning all of the tanks :3

[fierce elm]

I dont because it doesnt matter much tbh

Then Skyreach has like 4-5 packs

[stuck mulch]

these?

[fierce elm]

Yeah

They have a tank debuff

that you might kite

I never do

[lavish quest]

That debuff is also in the first pull btw

[fierce elm]

But you can

Yeah that too

[stuck mulch]

oh, i never really noticed it

[fierce elm]

I also dont like pulling the firebird into those

Instead do firebird+all spiders together

[jovial torrent]

please blizzard add custom route making with your glow feature, plleeeeasssse then id actually grind my ass off as tank for 1%

[stuck mulch]

this

[fierce elm]

Allows people to get their CDs up for it

[fierce elm]

Just learn the routes

or have a second monitor

[jovial torrent]

its the thing ive been worst at forever lol, id get lost in goddamn nax

[stuck mulch]

yeah ive learned my routes now more or less. just a few tweak i wanna do sometimes that i need to see if its ''viable''

did a fun pull on skyreach 16

pulled the full room at second boss

wich is pretty normal at low keys

[fierce elm]

But yeah, just learn the routes

thats about it

Run a few 10s until you know the route

[jovial torrent]

im sure if id actually play tank id learn em, as dps im just thinking ok what cd's do i wana send next pack

[fierce elm]

As dps you should know them too

Literally everyone should know some basic routes

Easier to tell when to use CDs and when no

and it makes a difference

[jovial torrent]

i have a rough idea ,i completely forgot pit of saron only ran that one like 5x at most

[magic wing]

Tanking is 50% on the healer too

[stuck mulch]

i hate open maps like that

[fierce elm]

Dont want to blow 1.5 min CDs on a 3 pack that then is a 10 mob pull

[magic wing]

Especially on non monk

The difference in healers as prot is massive

[stuck mulch]

open maps makes it so easy to dumb dps to run around too much and ninja pull

[fierce elm]

Tanking is like 10% on the healer as blood

[jovial torrent]

what healers are best for prot?

[fierce elm]

Fucking self-sustaining tank

[magic wing]

Id say sham or rdruid

[jovial torrent]

i know druid is the meta

[fierce elm]

Rdruid like everyone else

[lavish quest]

I'm glad the healers getting nerfed tomorrow are the healers I never ran with

[stuck mulch]

i really like monk healers

[magic wing]

Having hots on you when ip drops sometimes is nice

[stuck mulch]

so far ive only had good experience with them

[fierce elm]

Waiting for Brew nerf and blood buff

PLEASE

[lavish quest]

It's kinda dumb, but I avoid monk healers since I already bring mystic touch

[jovial torrent]

disc seems good but rng on big shield procs

[magic wing]

Prot warr buff

[lavish quest]

I like rdrus

Vers is nice. Hots work with stagger well

[stuck mulch]

i more or less only have bad experience with shamans

they have like the same overall healing as me like huh

[lavish quest]

Crazy, I'm waiting for brew BUFFS

[fierce elm]

Best experience is rsham for me tbh

That dude went crazymode

[fierce elm]

BLOOD DK BABY

I MIGHT BE BOTTOM DPS BUT I TOP DA HEALING

[lavish quest]

I out dps'd my Aug in my 16 last night at least

[fierce elm]

The adrenaline surge of knowing my healer is constantly questioning whethef to heal me of not is amazing

[magic wing]

Rsham is for physical comp

[fierce elm]

Dropping to 4% then healing it all back with death strike

One GCD away from proccing a cheat death at all times

[fierce elm]

thats MW

unless you bring a brew

[lavish quest]

Yeah that sounds awful

[magic wing]

Nah brew and sham heal

[fierce elm]

No its fantastic

I adore it man

[lavish quest]

Rsham buffs tomorrow

Lez goooo

[fierce elm]

Then knowing I am gonna be safe in 5 seconds because vamp blood will proc

It is incredible

[stuck mulch]

ive never felt so close to death everypull like wtih Rsham and i see the fucker is full mana

like HEAL MF HEAL

SPAM ME

i wanna see half ur mana gone

[lavish quest]

You're brew, what do you need the healer for?

[fierce elm]

also that

you are brew buddy

[magic wing]

I only ever did 12s as dps cuz pug and did 15 and 14 +2 yday with phys comp, its so good

[stuck mulch]

beacuse my dps dont wanna focus the annoying shit

the graveblades are allways the last shit to die

[lavish quest]

I went into the last boss of pit. Healer had 40% mana and didn't bother to drink

[stuck mulch]

who cares about bosses

[lavish quest]

Healer had like 10% mana left in first 30s

We were vibin

[stuck mulch]

bosses are w/e

[lavish quest]

I do, they take forever lol

Bigger mana strain

[stuck mulch]

thats the dps problem

but so is my problem i gues

[lavish quest]

Yeah our dps wasn't great

[stuck mulch]

if ppl could fucking focus the one that makes me take more dmg

[fierce elm]

Last pit is fine tbh

Depending on group

The spire bird can suck my nuts

[stuck mulch]

i had full melee stack on last boss

was abit slow

[fierce elm]

Note, I just ams on pull then amz first army

[lavish quest]

We had an Aug and our DPS were like 180 and 150 overall

[stuck mulch]

see i love having aug, but then you see the other dps is dookie...

and its like... fuck

[fierce elm]

Thats ok

[stuck mulch]

no buff will savethis

[lavish quest]

Which one? They're all birds except robot lol

[fierce elm]

The fire bird brother

[magic wing]

Did that on pos no aug lol

[fierce elm]

the literal first boss

[lavish quest]

Feel like it's a lil low

[fierce elm]

it sucks so much donkeywienee

[magic wing]

Last boss is good for arms

[fierce elm]

It is a bit low but its okay tbh

[magic wing]

All that funnel dmg

[lavish quest]

Have had plenty of dps pull that with no aug

But I get a 3rd dps also doing that

Instead of an Aug at 70k

[magic wing]

Yeah exactly

[stuck mulch]

PoS is such a fun dungeon for ret paladin

aoe stuns every 30 sec

[lavish quest]

Fire bird is 3rd boss

Btw

And not too bad

Burning claw hurts and all, but just purify it

Clueless

[stuck mulch]

if the dps kill the spawned bird its all good

instead of rooting it away from everyone

when we hide

[lavish quest]

It kills itself

[stuck mulch]

but why not just kill it fast

why let it sit there full spamming

[lavish quest]

More dam on boss

[fierce elm]

what

[lavish quest]

[stuck mulch]

WE ARE HIDING

[fierce elm]

WINDRUNNERS

SPIRE

FIRST BOSS IS BIRD BOSS

[urban skiff]

Who's ready for voidforge and 3x mythic track pieces of gear per week?

[stuck mulch]

we are hiding when the boss do the damn flame feathers

[fierce elm]

Gonna get gaze I swear

[lavish quest]

Oh, we were talking skyreach and you shifted to spire. Didn't notice

That's a DRAGONHAWK SIR

[fierce elm]

Yeah its ok pal

Skyreach is fine

boss wise

[urban skiff]

my aug is still level 85, I won't be ready 🙁

[fierce elm]

the first boss is a pugkillee

[stuck mulch]

ok so skyreach second boss let me ask you guys this

[lavish quest]

Dragonhawk is same thing. Just purifiy the tank hit

[stuck mulch]

do you EVER have to sit in a beam? as tank

[lavish quest]

duh

[lavish quest]

No

Unless my dps are regards

[fierce elm]

You should

You take the two frontals then take a beam

[lavish quest]

And I'm at a key level where that's a dead key

[lavish quest]

Why would you take those? You can avoid them

[fierce elm]

I mean bait them

Then you take the beam

[lavish quest]

I just make DPS do it

Fuck em

[stuck mulch]

you swap with a dps?

[fierce elm]

So bait both slams, take beam

yes

makes it way easier for the healer

[stuck mulch]

i gues, but i have to often sit in it FULLY

[fierce elm]

Yeah no

You only take it after the two slams

[lavish quest]

Why 2 slams?

[fierce elm]

It does 2 slams

[lavish quest]

He does all of the slams

[fierce elm]

then it doesnt do it again until post explosion

[wheat jay]

funny thing there

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

it CAN be 2nd boss, if you want to BL it

BUT, you save more time by lusting the double boss

BUT if you go bird boss without bl and kill it then its free dungeon lmao

[fierce elm]

So it goes slam, beam spawns, 2 slams, you take beam, explosion, then it spawns beam, 2 slams, take beam, explosion

[wheat jay]

decisions decisions

[fierce elm]

repeat

[stuck mulch]

to cordinate with pugs like that

[lavish quest]

So I take 2 seconds of the beam?

[stuck mulch]

[fierce elm]

I think its 3-5 seconds of it

per beam

[fierce elm]

Just tell them beforehand

”Move when I walk in front of beam”

[stuck mulch]

people never listen

[fierce elm]

It is generally better for the group to do it that way

[stuck mulch]

yeah might start trying to do that now in 16

[lavish quest]

I have timed 16 without it.

Tell the dps to put their vers on

[fierce elm]

You dont need to do it

[lavish quest]

kekw

[fierce elm]

But it is better lmao

[stuck mulch]

my skyreach grps have been wild

they legit just let that fire spawned bird get stunned or rooted away from us when we hide behind the pillar

so we just take damage for no reason

[wheat jay]

At higher keys you MUST spawn it at boss to cleave and then focus it when bird flies away

[stuck mulch]

yeah

[fierce elm]

Just stack everybody

[lavish quest]

Usually does spawn on boss

[fierce elm]

that simple

[lavish quest]

Then I Leg sweep or rope to keep it there

[stuck mulch]

again its when we have to hide and for somereason people just fucking root it where it spawned at the boss

so the melee cant hit anything

so it sits there pulsing

[fierce elm]

I just grip it

baller vibes

fuck your strats

[lavish quest]

Tell your healer to heal harder

Add dies natty

[stuck mulch]

so does my dps apperently

[urban skiff]

this is fine

[stuck mulch]

cus somehow, i dont know we had 2 birds at one point

[lavish quest]

Sick tip. Pretty unnecessary.
When bird moves and starts to cast the quills, I drop my transcend in front of it then go to pillar

[fierce elm]

Insta taunt that shit post

[lavish quest]

This a key?

[fierce elm]

Or some dumbass will get meleed lmfao

[urban skiff]

just levelling

[wheat jay]

bird?

it fixates brother

[jovial torrent]

oh thank god delve tiers are account wide

[elfin surge]

@lavish quest

[fierce elm]

big bird melees whomever is closest

[wheat jay]

ohh taht

ye

[fierce elm]

Yes

[wheat jay]

i thoughtyou meant smol

[lavish quest]

Wutchu need big dog?

[wheat jay]

ye i think i had a wipe once at +10 cuz tank didnt walk to it...

[elfin surge]

your love

[lavish quest]

glorpshagay

[stuck mulch]

[lavish quest]

That's in high demand

Clearly

[elfin surge]

whats up boys

ready to be nerfed tomorrow?

[urban skiff]

buffed you mean?

[magic wing]

DH player

[lavish quest]

Did go hang out with some lads, and there were a few others there. One such was a 37 yr old woman who said to me, "it's not often I meet my type." So I just asked "your type?" Then she said something along the lines of sorry not trying to offend, but are you on the spectrum? So I just asked what spectrum? Like AHDH or autistic or something? She then responded the rainbow spectrum, in a joking manner.
Interesting times

kekw

[lavish quest]

Are there finalized patch notes yet? I just saw the one that's like a progressive timeline of all the 0.5 changes. And I didn't bother doing the recording keeping math

War getting nerfed?

[wheat jay]

btw are you guys also annoyed that there's so much unavoidable dmg in m+?

so many trash mobs that randomly jump on you and get you to like 20% insta?

like in windrunner

or seat

or academy

skyreach too

none in maisara

NONE in fucking magister's terrace O_O

well, kinda in magister but mostly dot, not big ass hit out of nowhere...

[lavish quest]

We're tanks

We don't notice

Till you die

[wheat jay]

ye but you can see people randomly dying lmao

[lavish quest]

I just think they suck then

: )

[magic wing]

As arms I can tank alot of dmg

IV on cd

DBTS on cd mostly

Reflect on cd

[wheat jay]

you but in like windrunner, you get those a lot

dot+add and on like 17 youre dead if you dont pre-press XD

or healer throws a healing BOMB on your ass haha

[magic wing]

The dots suck yeah

Go dwarf

[wheat jay]

can't

i play dh

and my warr is belf for cool mogs 🙂

[magic wing]

Makes sense

I only like DI dwarf

And their mog is limited

[wheat jay]

i think warr mogs are neat on belf

just gotta take the bulky legs

why do some leg pieces have bulky textures, and some are skintight leggings?

smh

[wintry jewel]

Because Dwarf is BIS

Dwarves are so good they made a whole hero talent tree specifically for them

[elfin surge]

i think so right?

5% nerf to ms/slam right?

[lavish quest]

Is war even good enough to warrant a nerf?

Da fuk

[green wharf]

they allegedly went back and did not nerf thunder clap

just didnt updated the patch notes

[elfin surge]

Practiced strikes is the only notable change for pvp and its a nerf then right

[lavish quest]

I don't see an ms and slam nerf

[elfin surge]

Practiced strikes is 20% rn right

[green wharf]

ye

20%->15%

so technically 5% nerf for slam and MS

[elfin surge]

so we're getting nerfed i knew it

its over boys

was a good run

[lavish quest]

Oh, normally they do that was stuff

[scarlet barn]

MUD says it is over

It is over

[lavish quest]

Well... GGs, pack it up

Back to keys

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-fallen-soldier-fallen-knight-sad-knight-wounded-gif-10308488204143133682

[wheat jay]

Keys kinda balanced ngl

Few outliers but nothing like ww, mw, or mage rogue in pvp

[elfin surge]

imagine that arms got nerfs before rogue

[lavish quest]

Every morning MUD wakes up to his nightmare. His PVP chat talking about keys all of the time

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[elfin surge]

unreal

[wheat jay]

Maybe if blizz wasnt bitchmade they'd make pvp rewards acquisition same throughout the season

[jovial torrent]

2 yard range on demolish tho hype

[lavish quest]

Rogue got nerfed twice

[elfin surge]

where

[wheat jay]

Not impossibly hard now and easy peasy end of season...

[elfin surge]

these are lies

[wheat jay]

They did

[elfin surge]

WHERE

[wheat jay]

Still omega s tier

[elfin surge]

they did not

[jovial torrent]

it was like 2 or 4% on some combo point talent

[wheat jay]

Slap on the wrist nerfs

Yeeee

[elfin surge]

oh nice dude

but demolish gets a 85% nerf

[wheat jay]

I think summarily it was like 5-10% less dmg in burst

[elfin surge]

nice

[wheat jay]

They need to nerf perma shadowdance and double cheap every dr...

[elfin surge]

i dont think rogue damage is the problem

yeah

[jovial torrent]

yeh its same problem with MW, their kit has too many tools atm not the actual hps

[elfin surge]

idc if they do a lot of burst but wtf is dance

[wheat jay]

Remove gouge, remove double cheapshot, done

[lavish quest]

They were weeks ago

[jovial torrent]

zen orbs, and para-sweep-sleep, and ability to tp stun , low cd cocoon

[lavish quest]

You saw em already

[elfin surge]

Disarm should replace gouge and dance should be 30s cd

[wheat jay]

That would be nice ye

[jovial torrent]

they should just remove cheap shot and only have kidney#

even if its 20 second, better than being able to dance, cheap cheap cheap all 3 team members every 16 seconds

[wheat jay]

Buff dh cc too while we're at it

Its dogshit

[elfin surge]

i would be fine with cheap shot having limited uses per dance

like 2 charges

so you cant just spam cheap the entire world

[jovial torrent]

dance is on a 20 sec cd, 2 charges would be same as what we deal with now tbh

[wheat jay]

Oh you don't like rogues putting your whole team in cc by himself to peel for his mage?

[elfin surge]

i mean just do this

[jovial torrent]

have they ever had different cd timers for pve and pvp

[elfin surge]

Fighting rogue is fighting a perma go

it never ends

[wheat jay]

Do that, shadowdance 30s cd, bo double cheapshot

[wheat jay]

Ye

I track shadowdance and it just never ends xD

[elfin surge]

Peel the go, push for an attack. Thats how it should work

but it never ends sooo

fuck rogues

[wheat jay]

At least other classes have some counterplay lol

Like root warrior lol

Disarm and so on

[lavish quest]

Rogue mage needs that

[wheat jay]

Root havoc, same thing

Kick lock

Csnt kick mage cuz its neverending go too

[elfin surge]

Doritoww saying on stream arms shouldnt have d stance

peak

[wheat jay]

As long as arms loses pressure in dstance its fine and balanced

Every cd thats perma or a toggle needs downside

[green wharf]

now pve people can get older KSM mounts

[wheat jay]

Counterargument is evoker that can perma cast when moving and is immune to slows and roots 24/7

[green wharf]

m+ bros keep winning

i knew ion only do keys

[elfin surge]

that class is so cooked

[wheat jay]

And evoker is poorly designed on that front

[wheat jay]

It needs a dmg nerf when casting while moving

[elfin surge]

immune to slows roots cc and interrupts 80% of the game

really fun

[wheat jay]

Should be a toggle

Castable while moving but 20% less dmg

Done, fixed

Not immune to slows

[jovial torrent]

evoker being able to cast sleep while moving is so lame

[elfin surge]

juSt KIcK sLeeP WaLk

[green wharf]

do you guys remember the fyrakk weapon ability

[jovial torrent]

NS being usable with cyclone too

[wheat jay]

And get disintegrated for 20% hp every tick lmao

[green wharf]

that you jump/charge at someone and hit the guy

[wheat jay]

Ngl i think devourer dh is first NORMAL spec in pvp they made

[green wharf]

demolish should do that, replaces colossus smash, you charge and smash someone in the head rly hard

[wheat jay]

Thats new and not obnoxious xD

[elfin surge]

I actually think arms warrior is pretty well designed and balanced rn but I would like slightly better utility against casters

Current reflect is so ass

give me back overwatch mannn

[jovial torrent]

if warriors didnt have to waste a gcd on slow every time they connect to a caster

[elfin surge]

Spell reflect should last 5 seconds, once a spell has been reflected it reflects all incoming spells for 1 second

[wheat jay]

Brother, check this, choice node, dbts parries all attacks, and 2nd choice being reflecting all spells for duration and adds another 10% magic dr, and buff dbts by another 5% dmg reduction to compensate loss of baseline parry

Thoughts?

You'd have same dbts but stronger into melee comps

[lavish quest]

Hover freedom needs to go

[elfin surge]

Die by the shield

[wheat jay]

And still have strong dbts wall and better reflect into mage comps

[lavish quest]

Or hover is a 30 minute cd

[elfin surge]

spinning spell reflect animations

would be cool lol

[green wharf]

• Rend to be applied by MS or Slam
• auto attacks and abilities refresh hamstring
• ignore pain out of GCD
• Second wind not sucking
• Die by the sword parrying ranged physical attacks(from rogues)

then we good

[wheat jay]

I think i just fixed warr wall provlem into all comps with my idea ngl

[lavish quest]

Check this. Just make spell reflect how it used to be

[wheat jay]

Yes

[jovial torrent]

give priests spammable ranged fear as choice instead of mc, huh who said that

[wheat jay]

Can't have it all leland, youre not a rogue to make demands

[elfin surge]

I just want overwatch its my biggest thing rn let me protect my healer from magic cc like a true warrior should

[green wharf]

spell reflect working like nether ward, reflecting all spells in a 3s window

[elfin surge]

we have tbc reflect lil bro

[jovial torrent]

it would be nice if u could make intervene plays again for intervene reflect poly trap ect

[lavish quest]

Just play paladin

[wheat jay]

Make overwatch reflect next cc to you, whether its magic or physical

[lavish quest]

Not that used to

Calm down gramps

[elfin surge]

if we have tbc reflect give me tbc disarm (10 seconds)

[jovial torrent]

craftable deep thunder to bonk rogues with

[elfin surge]

I play tbc only fight rogues i log retail and only fight rogues i cant escape them

[green wharf]

the funniest thing is disarm sharing cc reduction from root

[elfin surge]

only for warrior

nobody else

just cuz fuck you

[green wharf]

ye

[elfin surge]

if all disarms shared dr with roots i wouldnt actually mind it

just dumb its only for ua

us

it makes sense really, roots only cc melee and disarm only ccs melee

logic is there i think

[wheat jay]

?

How

???

What

[elfin surge]

what

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

Disarm dr with root?

[green wharf]

ye

Laros said he got cucked by that in the awc

[wheat jay]

What kind of spaghetti coding is that?

[green wharf]

also, tomorrow was supposed to be the awc finals right?

yesterday, not tomorrow

[elfin surge]

only for warrior disarm yeah

[wheat jay]

XD

So stupid

[jovial torrent]

i skimmed to whatever the awc was yesterday, it was mage ww mw mirror

[lavish quest]

Don't worry guys, war omega s tier

[wet scarab]

really should be illegal to have a double frost mage lobby

[rancid granite]

u know this is exactly how it works now lol

[elfin surge]

theres no way

[green wharf]

if every team uses the same comp

it means is balanced right

[elfin surge]

I wouldnt know i dont play peasant rogue

class is for the weak

[lavish quest]

Crazy how mud got us to talk about pvp

Finessed

[jovial torrent]

rank 1 re-railer

[elfin surge]

pvp chat talking about pvp for once

[jovial torrent]

anyway onto more important things, when .5 comes out whos becoming a deep sea diver main

[stuck mulch]

w8ing for the mud pve arc

+21 keys day 1

[rancid granite]

gonna be too busy pvping to deep sea dive

(hide and seek)

[elfin surge]

never gunna happen lil gup

[lavish quest]

He's not good enough for keys

[elfin surge]

yeah im not good enough to beat ai bots designed to be killed with mechanics designed to be avoided

[lavish quest]

Sounds the same for pvp

[rancid granite]

designed for middle aged dad gamers*

[latent fossil]

Mud can’t even clear Deadmines

[spiral ridge]

Hey guys, what's the prio to craft with the 9 token ?

Ring, wrist, back seems good no ?

[lavish quest]

Yup

Info in pins

[solemn elm]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGUM5rGWYAA51pk.webp

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-creepy-cat-cat-zoom-kitty-gif-12199043

[wheat jay]

GAMING

[latent fossil]

I hate my life

thoughts?

[magic wing]

Big

[magic wing]

Do m+

[latent fossil]

I'm on college right now, getting a second degree. Not sure why, should've just turned streamer

Can't play during the day

[wheat jay]

now, on to do more 17 keys...

fuckinghell man

[green anchor]

can't wait to get 2.5 in m+ and be done

this shit is a slog

bog

[fierce elm]

2.5 te fuck

[green anchor]

slog through a bog

[fierce elm]

You mean 3.4 dont you buddy

[green anchor]

no

it's boring

[fierce elm]

why 2.5 in particular

[green anchor]

the sunmote thing

extra effects on non-mythic tier pieces

[rancid granite]

I can hear this

[green anchor]

since it doesn't look like I can get 2.3 in pvp lmao

[fierce elm]

Thats gonna be EASY brother

[green anchor]

not if the MMR inflation is gonna be the same as TWW S1

smol

[magic wing]

2.3 blitz

[green anchor]

my Arms is already bricked

peaked 2.1k and then tanked to 1900

all the sweet MMR gone and it's just hardstuck fiesta

[rancid granite]

stop losing then

or just win more

[lavish quest]

Come carry me NA. Our DPS suck

So do I but that's not the point

[magic wing]

Yeah Im hardstuck 1600 but I rather play m+

I lost like 2 matches and mmr is constantly lower than cr now

[lavish quest]

Last season's 1% cut off

[magic wing]

Kek

[lavish quest]

Blitz?

[green anchor]

any rated

[lavish quest]

Yeah

So just get it for free in blitz

[green anchor]

i mean shuffle even LESS so lmao

I tried

[green wharf]

[green anchor]

someone roll 100 🙏

[lavish quest]

Just keep queuin

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/Z3TMdgi.png

insane doom spiral right after 2123

[lavish quest]

204 games? 44.5%?

[green anchor]

9 game loss streak

[magic wing]

Id be happy with just enchant this season

[lavish quest]

[magic wing]

Rest are kinda meh

Elite weapons can be good Ig

[green anchor]

that was my goal lol

[magic wing]

Set = trash

[green anchor]

that's rank not games lol

119 games

[fierce elm]

Leland is blind

its okay

[lavish quest]

Oh, whatever

I just press keg smash, I don't have to read

[green anchor]

TWW S3 took me ~210 games to get 2.4k

[lavish quest]

Still

[green anchor]

the most inflated ass season

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

I assume this season's 1% will be higher than last season's (ease and incentive) but we not far from it now

[elfin surge]

just start winning

[fierce elm]

probably

But then it lands at around 18-19s

which is what me and Artji assume at least

[lavish quest]

I'm hoping not that high tbh lmao

But who knows

[green anchor]

meanwhile some pve knob gets elite in 50 games

[lavish quest]

So... why can't you then?

[green anchor]

luck is not on my side

[wheat jay]

its already 50/50 16s and 17s

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[wheat jay]

so later on it will 100% be 19s

[fierce elm]

Mogged by the Pve knobs is crazy

[green anchor]

💯

[lavish quest]

He's talking about us 3 now

[green anchor]

I wish I recorded the last 2 fc map games yesterday

[elfin surge]

hey man i havent gotten elite yet either

[green anchor]

in each a dps warrior gets to free run over the entire map and cap it

WARRIOR

easiest kill

as fc

[wheat jay]

ill try to get one more 17key today

having 3x 17 keys would be pretty nice

would have been 5 but blizz trolled us in seat and academy...

tank dc'd in one with ZERO internet issues except in wow

[lavish quest]

Maybe. These key levels will filter people fast tho.

Will filter my pugging ass

[wheat jay]

and pack traveled to us from fuck knows where

[wheat jay]

ye

that's why i think 19s will filter EVERYONE out

instantly

[lavish quest]

I timed the 16 pit but the DPS was sad

[green anchor]

try pve then

[wheat jay]

cuz jump from 16 to 17 is huge

17 to 18 is fucking unreal

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/black-nerd-black-nerd-gif-26919340

[wheat jay]

and 19s i think with bonus gear will be like going from 17s to 18s now

[lavish quest]

Our devourer had 150k overall with an aug

[wheat jay]

what dung?

[lavish quest]

Pit

Ret was like 180k overall

[wheat jay]

my pit 16 with afro i had 165k excluding aug

[lavish quest]

Exactly

Lmao

[wheat jay]

on logs

and logs kinda bring it down

this was details

xD

[lavish quest]

Ye... sooo

Ye...

[wheat jay]

and brother, i dont even do that much dps on devourer

i should be doing more

but my trinkets are...

[lavish quest]

I gotta find better DPS. Pug life gonna suck

[wheat jay]

lfr vaelgor and world boss stat stick...

also, ngl

out of all dungs and all classes/specs i played

devourer is the hardest to perform well on

no joke

easy to do mid as fuck or low dps

but doing high dps is actually kinda hard

[lavish quest]

I tend to see demo, arms, frost crank. Maybe should stick with that

All the uhdks I see I feel like will do big dam but end up mid ad fuck

[green anchor]

oh nice I got a response to my ticket

2 days later

and flagged as Needs more info

because it was apparently missing an attached screenshot which their ingame ticket system that I logically used after having an ingame issue, never asked for...

[spice hornet]

@worldly oriole said he quit wow but he’s on right now

Classic

[lavish quest]

Is the screenshot of your blitz winrate?

Gottem

[green anchor]

Tony is hunting

[rancid granite]

we needa get some weekly mythic omega runs going

[fierce elm]

hey thats me

I think 17-19s is gonna filter out a ton of DPS honestly

[magic wing]

Find me mf

[fierce elm]

lmfao no way

[wheat jay]

yep

not even dps wise

mostly mechanics wise

[fierce elm]

Tanking has felt extremely similar across all key levels honestly

[wheat jay]

cuz anything that's avoidable that hits you is instant death xD

[fierce elm]

But the DPS and healers have changed a ton

[lavish quest]

^

I can live the keys

[wheat jay]

any ground effect = death

any cast = death

[fierce elm]

I have yet to feel in danger yet

as a tank

[lavish quest]

Finding the non regards, impossibru

[wheat jay]

any mechanic where you don't wall = death

[fierce elm]

As long as I rotate my cooldowns, which isn't that rough

[lavish quest]

You do big dam?

[fierce elm]

But the gap in healer/dps is huge

[magic wing]

Yeah arms
Im EU tho kek

Oh to be unemployed again

[lavish quest]

Most of the keys for me so far have been do big pull, blow everything. Do small pull. Repeat

[wheat jay]

that's how it is kinda

[lavish quest]

Eww. I'm NA

[wheat jay]

except the higher you go the more you have to do big into big XD

[fierce elm]

thats the season

It is very cooldown based

[magic wing]

Big big big

[fierce elm]

Big pack into CDs, get cooldowns up during the pull for next big pack

[lavish quest]

Well I meant for my defensives. I dunno about my randos

[magic wing]

Gotta keep that cleave cleaving

[fierce elm]

But every tank has a lot of mitigation that can be lowered some way

[lavish quest]

Some keys I kill like half a pack and then start the next pull

[fierce elm]

I got vamp twice on every pack basically

Fill the gap with IBF, trinket, AMS, Lichborne, Weapon, RP spending

[magic wing]

Max I tanked with war was 14 and felt fine, just many dps mistakes

[lavish quest]

All I know, I never played with the OP healers except if you consider Rdru.
And healers I was running with are getting buffed

[magic wing]

Rdruid is very nice

[green anchor]

just get a ret

they have their cds up for every pack

[fierce elm]

Give me rsham EVERY DAY

[fierce elm]

less peak

Less CC

[lavish quest]

Maybe rdru is op. Idk

[fierce elm]

Rdruid is the meta healer rn, yes

[lavish quest]

Either way, they ain't getting nerfed like mw and pres

[fierce elm]

but it also syncs very well with how brew works

[lavish quest]

Ye, I like dem hots

[fierce elm]

It feels ass with Blood DK

[lavish quest]

I play with hpals but feels weird when they heal me

Tho they seem good too

[fierce elm]

Because blood doesn't need the hots, blood need strong spot healing

[magic wing]

Arms

I get my cds twice per pack lol

Even faster on patch

[green anchor]

Arms is so good and fun in m+

just single target feels ass

[magic wing]

Yeah gotta go slayer

But then you lose the crazy aoe

[wheat jay]

Do i let my cat outside?

[green anchor]

would never play Arms slayer

[wheat jay]

Fresh meat walking right next to our house

[green anchor]

deer eats cat

[wheat jay]

Deer is made of meat

Cat eats meat

Checkmate

Meatfed cat vs vegan soydeer

I put my money on the cat

[rancid granite]

i mean he's the mascot of skyhold he's bound to be tough

[magic wing]

Slayer isnt that bad

But Id rather pump on trash and let others do the boss

[lavish quest]

Shame I'm at work. Just saw a boost pop up for 8 13s for 463k

[green anchor]

Can they remove these crest caps

ffs

[lavish quest]

No. Need to slow ya down

[magic wing]

Im capped on all

Except conq

Lol

[green anchor]

I have 83 myth crests should I craft something?

how much do you even need of them for max ilvl craft

capped on sparks too lol

[fierce elm]

80

You should have 3 or 4 crafted items at this point

depending on if you craft weapon or not

[green anchor]

I been using conq weapons lmao

didn't craft any pve gear yet

[fierce elm]

NO WONDER M+ FEELS LIKE A SLOG lmfao

[green anchor]

not what i meant

[fierce elm]

get yo ass in the crafting

[green anchor]

huh I got a catalyst charge somewhere

ok crafting time

HUGE WEPON

[elfin surge]

how abouts you craft some bitches

[fierce elm]

drops once you have gotten 4pc

[green anchor]

I don't have the gold for that

unlike some Mud guy

wonder where he gets it

[latent fossil]

coke

[green anchor]

[elfin surge]

[rancid granite]

HoW AboUts You CrAfT sOme BitChEs

[green anchor]

I forgot to include an embellishment

https://tenor.com/view/engineer-tf2-desk-smash-keyboard-gif-15690655

[copper fox]

Flokk would have a dih joke here

Just saying

[green anchor]

@haughty jewel any dih input?

[lavish quest]

When you crafting the next bihh?

[elfin surge]

You mean you?

🥺

[lavish quest]

You know I'm not a woman right?

[elfin surge]

I thought you were gay?

[lavish quest]

Life would likely be so much easier if I were

[elfin surge]

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/IMEbVPy.png

HOLY

900+ rounds

and he's sitting on a bfa glad mount

hmm 9 times glad since tbc peak xp 2.7k in 2v2

no way he's this low in shuffle after so many rounds man

[copper fox]

So

Are you going to dox him

Or

Give his name

@fierce elm how am I supposed to pve when I blitz until 4am

[lavish quest]

Stop blitzing

Get pve done so you can focus up at end of season

Pro strats

[elfin herald]

hey siri how to stop blitz addiction ?

[wheat jay]

xd

im levelign warr

arms op in dungs

[copper fox]

Should I just 1 button rotation prot pally to 3400

[wheat jay]

you probably won't

[fierce elm]

lmfao

do keys at 4am

[green anchor]

mogged an UH dk on dmg in academy but he got puzzle box

i even lost the roll on the bookcase

L

[copper fox]

Tf

[green anchor]

Trollface

[lavish quest]

Yes

But if you tank, well then... I'm also a tank soooo

[copper fox]

Yea so I’m not doing that why would I lose my carry like that

[lavish quest]

Just group up, look pretty, stand in the back telling your dogs to bite and it'll be okay babe

[copper fox]

I meed to spend gold and gear the easy way rq

Buy my way into a heroic raid

[lavish quest]

Maybe know a lil about the dungeons

[copper fox]

Don’t stand in the colors

Etc

[lavish quest]

Then at the end of this, flex your io on MUD

[green anchor]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Kor'gall/Kusinelohis

[elfin surge]

oh leland

[green anchor]

doxxed ✅

[lavish quest]

Well he could probably flex his pvp rating on you too

[fierce elm]

Why the fuck would meth tank

Especially as one of the harder tank specs this season because prot pal is garbage

lmfao

[lavish quest]

Insecure about my position of dominance in the relationship

[elfin surge]

he could try

[lavish quest]

Don't you spend all of your time gatekeeping 2s?

susge

[elfin surge]

no

[bright kraken]

What does devourer comp with

[lavish quest]

Nothing

[bright kraken]

Also why do they go collapsing star/hunt builds

[lavish quest]

Cuz they bad anyways

[bright kraken]

Was waiting to cc on cstar and they just never cast it xd

Dh discord ain't telling me shit

[bright kraken]

Seems to be slamming in shuffle

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay

[bright kraken]

Bigly

[wheat jay]

?

[lavish quest]

Furry girl has questions for you

[wheat jay]

they can slam dps without it too

just kick devour

and thats all

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Not you, remember you don't talk to women

[elfin surge]

@sharp meteor

[urban skiff]

this seems relevant for people who are about to gear up for pvp, skip conq tier pieces entirely with a modicum of luck

[sharp meteor]

Hmm?

[urban skiff]

when do I become famous? 7 followers enough? @solemn elm

[copper fox]

I can tell you what not to do

[scarlet barn]

Say the forbidden word

[worldly oriole]

JAMMIE hunt shitting on the lob sliding into 2k with ease

almost fumbled the first round cuz i gues you cant feign without a pet out

[green anchor]

Sniper

[copper fox]

Wait that’s insane for you lol

[urban skiff]

is this blitz

[worldly oriole]

na solo shuff

[green anchor]

Can't wait for Tony to level up his warrior an go undefeated 100-0

[solemn elm]

no

[urban skiff]

it's free tier pieces at capped ilvl

as long as you get the piece from vault or token

[solemn elm]

the amount of effort you need to put in is not worth it aswell as the conquest cap is already big anyways

unless you are a raider

[urban skiff]

Point is once you're conq capped that effort can be put into that at no cost, if you play a mode where you're waiting around for your team mates

For example if I'm waiting for my wife, I can go do that real quick

it's only +10, right?

[worldly oriole]

anotha one!!

[solemn elm]

mm gonna be good tommorow

[worldly oriole]

why?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-mike-o'hearn-gif-1701808891679373828

[solemn elm]

iunno just some buffs or some shit

[worldly oriole]

i think its already owning, people almost 2400 shuffle with it

[urban skiff]

tony eating

I should go get into shuffle again instead of spamming 2s

[solemn elm]

idk nobody is doing this and it’s just not worth the effort

ur like just thinking way too much about nothing

[urban skiff]

It's guaranteed drops if you pick the right dungeon

[fierce elm]

Thinking way too much about nothing is 99% of PvP

[urban skiff]

You don't even have to be a mythic raider to get m+10, just look at @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

exactly

I have stumbled into high keys suddenly

Pure luck, no skill

all brawn no brain

[solemn elm]

that’s not the point it’s just the most worthless increase anyways for the effort you’re putting in ontop of that you need to get crests to upgrade it to max so that you aren’t trolling using a pve item in pvp

[urban skiff]

❤️

[fierce elm]

You get those crests by doing the dungeon brother

[solemn elm]

but if you want to do that go for it i don’t see any pvpers doing that for their tier pieces in pve man they just play the game

just a head scratcher

[urban skiff]

I think it's a matter of perspective, m+10 is a relative low effort if you're going to do multiple types of content

[solemn elm]

i guess

[fierce elm]

Also, completely relevant to new toons tbh

since you can just skip certain pieces entirely

[solemn elm]

idk get honor gear q up get conquest points buy conquest pieces get 1600 tier charge the pieces you need and make like 3 items

[fierce elm]

And if you are someone doing PvE jumping into PvP

then this is definitely relevant if you haven't gotten myth track tier pieces

(which you should have)

I'd rather this than the 50th discussion of Fury vs Arms or Hamstring vs Thunderclap lmfao

[urban skiff]

is aug still trolling if I go into pvp with it?

[fierce elm]

Sorta

[urban skiff]

same level as tanks or slightly less trolling?

[fierce elm]

Actually, yes lmfao

Higher than Tanks

Aug does damage and adds damage to everyone + healing