pvp

[fierce elm]

The gods do not favor you

[wheat jay]

we're going 17 now

[fierce elm]

after this fucking ditching

If any huge wiener dps want to chase the 1% the dream team is open

[lavish quest]

I meant the 16

I can't even get those

[solemn elm]

cool :D

[lavish quest]

Brain cells start to fall after 15s for some reason

[solemn elm]

now when you and choppah play you can both collab stream

[lavish quest]

Caster mob standing 40 yds away, DK never thinks about gripping it

Probably shouldn't waste my time on a Saturday. Kids n shit out and about being brainless fiends

[wheat jay]

xD

[lavish quest]

Then he whispers me after saying I was greedy as fuck for pulling 2 packs

Grip the caster in and easy pull

[wheat jay]

wtf xD

small and big wyrm xD

[urban skiff]

Someone will have to tell me how, at some point

[latent fossil]

I just did the regular first house quests, decorating and stuff. It was the most relaxing time I've had in this fucking game since 2007

finally unlocked that beautiful founder's point background

[solemn elm]

it’s easy i’ll show you how

W seb destroying all forms of content

[urban skiff]

Rare win

[latent fossil]

what I don't understand

is how the fuck my house is at founder's point

while I'm an Orc

like

I zug zug , i dont king's honor friend

[solemn elm]

i think you can change it no

[latent fossil]

I prefer Founder's Point tbf

I love the forest

[solemn elm]

isn’t there one that’s like duskwood looking one

that is very cool

[jovial torrent]

been healing trillebartom's mage to help him conq cap

[urban skiff]

Your house is wherever your guild is, i think

Founders point is best anyways

[solemn elm]

i’d probably make mine there

[solemn elm]

op choppah like always

[latent fossil]

but I can picture like those little gnomes doing their stuff in town and then "uhmm , Larry, why is there an orc wielding Grom Hellscream's axe buying apples?"

[jovial torrent]

our loss was hunter druid, was so aids

[solemn elm]

happens

[latent fossil]

ok Flepperd, back to mog talk

legion out of the question

what are my options

[solemn elm]

hmmm if you’re orc you can use heritage armor or the barbarian set i think from the shop or trading post it ain’t came back in a while tho there’s also the war song set from garrisons which is a cool farm to do if you like that stuff

[latent fossil]

I was about to pull the trigger on this

but meh

idk

[solemn elm]

nah i don’t like that set too much

i can’t lie

it’s too like

chunky

needs a good mix of both

[lavish quest]

Flep doesn't like em thicc

Tragic

[solemn elm]

and then the orange chains and then aswell as the chest piece

nah i do like the chunky ones

[latent fossil]

if the boots here weren't so fucking trash , I'd do this

[solemn elm]

but that one just is whatever

[latent fossil]

but the boots are crap

[solemn elm]

LOL yea thats hideous

put on a tabard yo

[latent fossil]

I use the dragonflight

black shit

tabard

[solemn elm]

that’s good but that tabard is stinky

need like something on fire or a horde color

[latent fossil]

Now look

if I put

elemental force

on Grom's axe

it kinda looks good

now the tabard uhmm

[green anchor]

all illusions look bad on this axe

[latent fossil]

look at my tabard options like wtf is this

I need to look for a good looking tabard.

[solemn elm]

gotta get some

for sure

also screw elemental force use like chronos

use something very annoying and loud

[latent fossil]

i got the pvp one primal storm

from last expa i think

and the blue one

from this expa

no, no way

this one's expansion butcher's Groms soul

[solemn elm]

k well new enchant is peak but obviously doesn’t fit

[tribal wedge]

maybe work well with the Mythic color of the current set?

[latent fossil]

fuck it, I'll put Primal Storm, RP reason? Thrall infused it with Elemental powers (?

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[solemn elm]

LMAO putting pvp enchants is always the best

[latent fossil]

now, I only got the 1800 pvp set on my Ret, how does the war look ?

is it trash?

[solemn elm]

you can cook up smth blue if you’d like, try out the grave warden set from tomb of sargeras

no it’s okay

[tribal wedge]

the color is a bit weird :/

[solemn elm]

i don’t like the colors personally and it’s already lost its flair to me but it’s still fire

[tribal wedge]

purple/gold idk

[solemn elm]

yea

[latent fossil]

u know what this shit looks kinda fire, not gonna lie

[tribal wedge]

but the normal raid color with the effect is really good

[solemn elm]

solid but we need to change that tabard bad

[latent fossil]

yeah but i dont have one damn it

wowhead it for me

:v

[solemn elm]

dominant gladiators tabard

or u got 20 bones? grab tabard of flame

but closest i can do is like hmmm any horde tabard really at all

[latent fossil]

wtf is this shit

[solemn elm]

look at the horde version

not the alliance

there’s 2

[solemn elm]

would fit very well

but it’s unfortunately unobtainable

[latent fossil]

I mean I got the Horde Tabard, literally named Horde Tabard

[solemn elm]

looks good

tabard of flame is really good with that since you know it’s fire

[latent fossil]

obtainable?

wait

[solemn elm]

need 20 bones

costs moneys

[latent fossil]

but there's a more important question now

Female orc or male Orc

https://tenor.com/view/choose-which-one-decisions-confused-cute-gif-15163454

[solemn elm]

ngl you pick cause i actually like both LOL

when i’m feeling insanely mongo i play male orc

when i’m like tryna be all technical im female orc and tryna be like mud

[latent fossil]

the issue with male is that I gotta take off the helmet

because big shoulders and that helmet?

nah

[solemn elm]

lowkey the helmet is aura as male orc you’re just a big rock guy

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gifgod-smirk-shrek-smirk-shrek-smile-gif-8036133445499881066

[worldly oriole]

im hugh mungus

[green anchor]

how that cheap

last i checked this shit is $300+

[solemn elm]

tabard of flame is like 30 bucks

look it up

the others are a little more

a little more is an understatement but they’ve given a few out for free from just twitch drops

[latent fossil]

i dont even know how im going to pay for my sub next month

so

thats a no no

lmao

[solemn elm]

LMAO i’d probably get you a code

[latent fossil]

a code? whats that

[solemn elm]

a code for the tabard

it’s a tcg item from a minute ago but that item was one of the most common codes hence why it’s like 40 bucks

there’s a bunch of other ones like tabard of the void tabard of nature etc it’s a whole rainbow of colors essentially and they fit anything

[latent fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248381018570887289/1463247988557086986/head-to-desk-boom.gif

[solemn elm]

basically shows like i’m a rich bitch, or you got the twitch drop ones like me for free :3

they gave out like 3 and people were upset

but they still have good value

brilliance frost and defender

[latent fossil]

Well im a poor bitch so , can't be part of that clan

[solemn elm]

i am too so don’t worry

that’s why i got it free xD

[latent fossil]

now how much is the wow token? I'm on 100k gold lmao

think I need 133k more

[solemn elm]

like 220k for me

[latent fossil]

for next month

[solemn elm]

if i had more id give

i only have like 60k

[latent fossil]

damn

I felt that

[solemn elm]

i had like a good bit before the expansion started and then enchants costed like 50k for both of my warriors

for just the chest piece

and the weapon enchants costed so much

[latent fossil]

I could've saved for like 3 months of play time

and I spent it all on enchants

I'm dumb

[solemn elm]

oh well not your fault just stupid ass rwf and pvers

[green anchor]

yeah but what's a trustworthy source

[solemn elm]

wowtcgloot website i believe

[green anchor]

Tabard of Nature $1500

lmfao

[solemn elm]

yup

can try to sneak one in bmah for cheaper

cheapest i’ve seen my homie bought was like 1 mil for void

[green anchor]

spectral tiger $8.5k

https://tenor.com/view/cats-angry-cat-nope-funny-gif-15842401

[solemn elm]

:( yea

safest way is just grabbing from bmah but hard to get since a couple people snipe but so long as you got that moneys you can outbid

just gotta be on the look out

[deep stream]

thought spectral unavailable in BMAH

[solemn elm]

yea i think that one is unavailable on bmah

[deep stream]

only cub can be found

[solemn elm]

but zulian ain’t

[deep stream]

ye zulian n plague are avail

life hack be a gnome n ride spectral tiger pet

[solemn elm]

LMAO genius

aura with that yransmog and title

[deep stream]

just gota hit the arena more than M+

[solemn elm]

oh i been hittin the arena more than anything

[deep stream]

did 1 sesh of 2s this season only

once im done 3.4k in M+ ill be spammin 3s

almost there

[jovial torrent]

u eu or us?

[deep stream]

eu

[jovial torrent]

if u wana play some with disc just yell 🙂

[stuck mulch]

wats ur keys on atm

[deep stream]

got pit 16 i be doing later

was pugging mythic raid today

got chim done n 2/9

[deep stream]

Pog

but got healer who is playing torchlight once he is done we blast 3s

gona lvl another warrior soon to experiment on

[stuck mulch]

how much do u get per 16 compared to 15?

[deep stream]

i get +15 rating kinda

or 10

per

so if i finish up all 16s i get 3.4k

[stuck mulch]

yeah that was wat i wanted to see if u needed all 16 or if one could be 15

[deep stream]

ye u could have 1 15

but if u get all 16 its guaranteed

kept farming seat for like 20 runs

to get glove

get fuck all

[stuck mulch]

yeah thought so, oh well beter make it nice and even i gues

[deep stream]

running pvp glove

[stuck mulch]

[solemn elm]

LOL fuck those gloves

[deep stream]

no glove since season start

[solemn elm]

i got lucky and got them early

[stuck mulch]

the one with shadow damage?

[solemn elm]

those are a pain to farm

[solemn elm]

yee

[stuck mulch]

oof yeah they seem nice i want them on my paladin

[deep stream]

running this shit since start

[solemn elm]

they’re our bis

[fierce elm]

they are in my bags

[stuck mulch]

my monks ilvl atm

[deep stream]

i cant get any glove let alone those ugly ass ones

[fierce elm]

these are equipped though

[deep stream]

got those rings

[stuck mulch]

i got both those rings... had to give it to the gf

[jovial torrent]

@deep stream no worries, always down for games if u want

[deep stream]

👍🏿

leme burnout on pve

im almost there

once i feel the rope around my neck i go for pvp

then another rope appears

[stuck mulch]

im prob done with caring about score after i got 3,4

unless the 1% looks insane

[deep stream]

man i get egod on +10s

for being a warrior xd

those fks want min maxed comp on 10s

and then proceed to do 3-4 mob pulls

[fierce elm]

I get meta-checked for being blood dk

for 15-16s

[deep stream]

oh those i never get invited to

[stuck mulch]

the pull i hate the most is the fucking MC start pull

[fierce elm]

Like the fuck I know I am not a brewmaster

[stuck mulch]

time to roleplay monk with Tmog

[fierce elm]

might be a bit hard

[stuck mulch]

PoS was abit monka a few times

[fierce elm]

I never feel monka as the tank

my group though

my group do be hating

[deep stream]

dk life

yoyo hp bar

[stuck mulch]

my groups love ignoring the graveblade

like yeah fuck me

[deep stream]

how do ppl not cleave off of those

n just have focus target to kick

[stuck mulch]

idk like the mobs after 2nd boss up the cliff. they are allways the last to die

even when you double pull

into the caster mob

aswell with the dragon

[fierce elm]

only need da boots

[stuck mulch]

i only like the pvp colours for the monk set

[solemn elm]

fire

[worldly oriole]

i got a tabard on ebay i think back in the day

had the blue one on my banned account

tabard code*

[latent fossil]

uh oh

I just read "it's charge first and them hamstring, then you MS" at silvermoon

and dude replied

"no, it's charge, MS, hamstring"

i'm in the middle

of them

[worldly oriole]

its bots blizzard planted, to skew your reality

[latent fossil]

[solemn elm]

don’t worry about that you can do either one

[urban skiff]

test

[latent fossil]

I just tested it on the dummy and tbh, Charge - Hamstring feels better because it's instant, with MS you need an auto first

[solemn elm]

but i usually string first after i charge yea

yeh

@lavish quest i see you

watching my friends stream

[green wharf]

So guys, today is the day, what addons should i begetting for pvp?

[deep stream]

isnt it always charge, slow, pump?

[green wharf]

for my war

[solemn elm]

ye

[solemn elm]

mini cc #1 and s arena of course

the rest is whatever you like

mini cc does a lot of things for you

just set it up the way you want

[deep stream]

NaowhQOL also pog

minicc is basically all the good old stuff reinvented

[solemn elm]

yup

[deep stream]

until blizz removes it again

[urban skiff]

@solemn elm i think I got it up on twitch now

/proteandruid

[solemn elm]

bet

yea looks good

running smooth

[urban skiff]

ended up clipping a lot of my screen since it's ultrawide

[solemn elm]

ah i see but you should be able to fix it

what is this camera tho u don’t have it like normal?

[urban skiff]

what do you mean normal?

[solemn elm]

uh

[urban skiff]

oh yeah it's off center i guess

[green wharf]

s arena?

[solemn elm]

idk how to explain you’re just off center

[solemn elm]

s arena or gladius or anything to track dr’s of course

[lavish quest]

Well I lost cuz team wanted to give them massive lead at start 🙁

But that ss is fuckin tiny lmao

[green wharf]

this one?

[urban skiff]

it should be centered now, but now it cuts out buffs unless I add the black bar top/bottom

[solemn elm]

yee

[green wharf]

is there an addon that tells you when you kill someone, like it shows "killing blow:dude"

[solemn elm]

nice damage

[green wharf]

cause in bgs i never know when i got the last hit

[solemn elm]

same thing bajheera uses

well you can tell from getting victory rush or not

[green wharf]

nice

[solemn elm]

but nice damage should show you that

[urban skiff]

miniverse had one but i couldn't make it work, just reported every single mob kill and didn't do shit in arenas

i miss the killingblow addon so much

[stuck mulch]

paladin gave me BoP when we did a bloodlust pull

that shit did not end well

[solemn elm]

looks good btw

[lavish quest]

lmfao

Don't look like you're dying then

[solemn elm]

yea lol

on me phone

[stuck mulch]

it was the pull with the poison blades in WS

that has the abom

[lavish quest]

Turn the phone 👍

[lavish quest]

Kick

[urban skiff]

thanks, i have a mic it's just under a pile of LEGO right now and I have no way of seeing who's watching and what people are saying

[green wharf]

zerch do you know a macro, that like, makes you jump the maximum distance in front of you, without the need to clink or aim?

[urban skiff]

I have a solution you won't like

[stuck mulch]

i mean yeah but you pull from the staircase to the abom so its alot

[random willow]

ashran brawl is so aaaaah

[stuck mulch]

so u BL

[green wharf]

why not

[lavish quest]

I don't

[urban skiff]

because it's shaman tech

[lavish quest]

I do the abom pack solo

[green wharf]

but i like shamans

[stuck mulch]

all of it?

[lavish quest]

I do the upstairs banshee with the top floor

[stuck mulch]

even the staircase etc

[lavish quest]

Then the abom alone with his 3 dudes

Then next banshee and door guards

[urban skiff]

this addon

shows where my cursor is at all times when I hold right click

[stuck mulch]

i take the upstairs and all the down

[solemn elm]

shaman tech is a cute cursor

[urban skiff]

so when I'm doing that, I position my mouse where I want to go and use @cursor leap macro

[solemn elm]

syegfried just click leap and aim it smh

don’t make it too complicated

[green wharf]

no i know that one, i do that too

[urban skiff]

ground aim effects will cast at the cursor if you doubleclick them btw

[green wharf]

i was more like, automatic the leap jump the maxim distance in front

without the need to use the cursor macro

[solemn elm]

penis

[green wharf]

like, some sort of double click heroic leap and you just leap in front

[stuck mulch]

no not that

[lavish quest]

THat's what I do

Dummy

[green wharf]

regardless of where the cursor is

[stuck mulch]

not that pull

[solemn elm]

nah that’s just not how heroic leap works

you can’t just make heroic leap only leap you forward lol

you should just click it man

[stuck mulch]

oh w8 it is that pull

[solemn elm]

i make my leap bind like a mouse button cause it’s a mobility button

[green wharf]

cant know unless i ask, Zerch have some crazy macros

[solemn elm]

never heard of any of that other than just leap at cursor which is kind of whatever

you can use that

[wheat jay]

@urban skiff

[green wharf]

i do use that

[green wharf]

what helmet is that, is nice

[solemn elm]

but i just click my leap it’s not that big of a deal

dh elite set

from s3 astral i believe

[stuck mulch]

i take these

[green wharf]

meh

[wheat jay]

elite dh from tww s3

[solemn elm]

really gud set imo best one recently

[wheat jay]

also, timed 16 maisara with afro 😄

[solemn elm]

very nice

[fierce elm]

: 3

[lavish quest]

Doesn't show all of pull 9 lol

Seems like unnecessary risk

[stuck mulch]

yeah i split the 9 pull its abit weird

[solemn elm]

tell me how it goes syegfred

[stuck mulch]

its not too bad if people dont fucking bop me

[solemn elm]

and as always if you got any questions ask here

[green wharf]

is the helmet usable for other specs, from PVE?

[wheat jay]

1sec

red 100% not

cuz its elite

but

its not

those are usable

and those

[solemn elm]

that helmet was fire no pun intended

[green wharf]

noice

[stuck mulch]

but yeah ill prob do more of just the 9 pull into the 7

idk why it says 9

when its the 7th

[green wharf]

cause i aint playing DH unless a non-elf race can pick the class

[solemn elm]

last like 6 dh sets look sick

in a row

[lavish quest]

I dunno if meta

What I do from 1st to 2nd boss

[green wharf]

So addons i got

• S arena
• Nice damage
• Mini CC

am i missing any?

[solemn elm]

uh should be chill more or less

[green wharf]

overall i have battlegrounds enemies and weakauras, but i dont even use WA

[urban skiff]

What does nice damage do?

[solemn elm]

weak auras ain’t workin no more and don’t need battleground enemies

syegfryed wanted the KILLING BLOW : then name

[stuck mulch]

yeah ill do that more, safer and i dont get any nasty suprises from paniced dps, the one i do is take the banshe with the 1 pull and then the rest of 2 into 3

[lavish quest]

There's a fixed bg enemies

[solemn elm]

nice damage shows that up for you

[urban skiff]

there's a fixed one for bgs

[solemn elm]

it’s like blitz plates

[green wharf]

ah right, i had one addon that stop me from tabing pets, is there anew one that does that?

[solemn elm]

i thought he was playing only arena 😞

[green wharf]

oh, dang it

[solemn elm]

you can still get battleground enemies tho get blitz plates

[lavish quest]

Syeg mains delves

Of course he's gonna BG

[green wharf]

hey, i cant M+

delves is the only one i can stop and come back later

[solemn elm]

you know the lil damage numbers bajheera got and then the GET SHIT ON across the screen

basically that

[urban skiff]

huh

Is there anything more demotivating than a tank who does one tiny pack at a time?

[solemn elm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/H1hk9UTS388?si=GFjBRaIsRYiTdj2r

[lavish quest]

I was trolling about PvP more than M+ lol

[stuck mulch]

a healer that drinks after every pack

[solemn elm]

nothing more demotivating than this LOL i heroic throw some mobs to make it faster

[green wharf]

Ok, i also need to fix my UI, but that i will do a bit later

[solemn elm]

but you see the font of the damage, numbers then when he kills em, says GET SHIT ON across the screen

[green wharf]

gonna fix my macros first, if anyone have ideas

[solemn elm]

you can customize it to whatever

[urban skiff]

I'm playing aug in levelling dungeons lol

shit's boring if there's no big pulls

[solemn elm]

d stance b stance and i just use my intervene and stormbolt 123 macros and obviously cancel bladestorm stuff like you’ve always had

not gonna lie this is kind of some tech i use like crazy and it’s funny but i use this ms macro

[green wharf]

i have:
macro for heroic leap
charge/intervene on mouse hovering with hamstring
avatar+colossus macro for burst

[green anchor]

@solemn elm https://i.imgur.com/64p5tEc.png

why is the Npc scamming me

[solemn elm]

hmm i haven’t redeemed a code in forever

[green wharf]

yeah i have to put macros for that, too, i start using the dk grip/silence for fixed target and it greatly improved my reaction speed

[solemn elm]

look at you go

big focus macro

this one is lowkey a secret

but you are always taunting every pet in the arena towards you and you cleave them very hard

half of the game the hunter spends resummoning the pet

happened like 3 times vs bm hunters last night

[green wharf]

😮

damn, like

if you use taunt on the pets, they just run at you?

[solemn elm]

yup

they’re just right ontop of you

more rends going out too

for the free

[green wharf]

LOL

i lowkey though they were immune

[solemn elm]

no they aren’t but people always put pet attack macros for their ability’s to make sure that doesn’t happen

holy paladins tend to taunt pets to avoid traps etc

small tech stuff

but if it’s like obvious of course

better hunter would just stun trap

[urban skiff]

if you're shaman and don't pick up the +hp% talent for earth ele, earth ele will taunt pets like BM/UHDK/water elemental and just mess up their damage

shamans are experts at secret tech

[solemn elm]

cus they die in like 30 seconds so anything to avoid that from happening

[urban skiff]

yea we certainly pick up how to live through toxic positioning

Like sure, you MAY follow me in a blind rage but I'm going to make sure your healer is having an absolutely miserable time

But only because I permit it

[solemn elm]

look at you go :3 that’s how you kite

you drag the healer out into a bad spot so he can get cc’d easier

[urban skiff]

give me back unleash shields and thunderstorm

[solemn elm]

no thunderstorm please

god no

thankful there aren’t that many knocks anymore

[urban skiff]

but if you're in 2s, you have no cc

[solemn elm]

you can land a crispy hex if you try or something xD

[urban skiff]

can't hex these days

[solemn elm]

need gigadworf with the wife

instead of the shaman frl

[urban skiff]

if there's a druid, mage, shaman, evoker, just forget everything about hex

[solemn elm]

oh yea of course

[urban skiff]

It's not even just the dispels, it's just the sheer toolkits to bypass it

[solemn elm]

whatcha mean druid just shape shiftin or mage de curse

[urban skiff]

priest will fade it

[stuck mulch]

@lavish quest what pull do u do in algathar?

[urban skiff]

or death it, for some reason t hat works

warrior will spell reflect it

[solemn elm]

always been able to to be fair it’s essentially like sheep

well you gotta bait it you know can’t always get it for the free

[urban skiff]

that's the thing, I can't get it almost anytime

[lavish quest]

What I have done, or what I will probably swap to but haven't done yet?

[solemn elm]

and it’s good to just hex a mage, what’s he gonna do decurse himself ?

gotta think of it like that

[stuck mulch]

with the first pull with the skitters and lashers

[solemn elm]

but it’s just how it is with the game i wish u could get the freest hexes

[lavish quest]

I pull all of them

[urban skiff]

What 2s mage plays with anything where hex'ing the mage has value?

[solemn elm]

combustion

[urban skiff]

they're all glued to their resto druids

[lavish quest]

But probably will start to get to be too much

[stuck mulch]

i cant do that i fucking die at 14

[lavish quest]

So may shift to going left boss first

[solemn elm]

but if they’re playing with a curse dispel then yea not worth

[stuck mulch]

atleast the grp i was in couldnt do much dmg cus i had to run so much

from the small fuckers

[lavish quest]

I lived it on a 15 with my evoker FORGETTING TO LUST 🤣

[urban skiff]

hex is almost zero value in 2s, as the meta is right now

[solemn elm]

😞 being a shaman in 2s got no value

[urban skiff]

might be worth more, now that my wife isn't nuking the hex instantly with her ONLY OFFENSIVE PENANCE SPAM

[stuck mulch]

i survived it with another grp but this one couldnt do dmg it seemed and i gotta run so much

[lavish quest]

I did it on my last build too

My new build is a lot more defensive

[solemn elm]

LMAO damn

[urban skiff]

yea so turns out she was doing only offensive penance, even if I was at 1% hp she'd do offensive penance only

[lavish quest]

Once you get 3 stacks of the bleed from big plants, you need to kite till they drop

[stuck mulch]

is it the big adds? i thought it was the small fuckers

[lavish quest]

It's the big boys

Called like vile bite or something

[stuck mulch]

aah ok, you pull the skitters aswell?

or do u take em into boss after

[solemn elm]

it’s ok to to be fair, she wants to get attonement healing up which is what really will heal you

compared to that penance just being on you

[lavish quest]

It will hit you at any range, but they won't start the cast until you're in melee

[lavish quest]

Everything

Fight tree boss alone

But the higher the key level, I will probably have to stop that

Oh sheez, Fleps is on now

[stuck mulch]

ugh that WS run and this academy killed my vibe so hard

WS run was flawless until that fucking BoP

[urban skiff]

watched a video from absterge, said 75-80% of all penances should be defensive, and to only do offensive when everyone's topped off. Which nobody is, ever, in 2s

welp, 3 followers. Wife is 1, I figure flep is the 2nd

how many do I need before i get rich?

[stuck mulch]

me to coach you

[urban skiff]

You guys have to take turn coaching me, there's a line apparently 🫠

[naive needle]

Does using any of these give you the appearance of the corresponding conquest set piece?

the lacquer/varnish*

[wheat jay]

afro unironically good tank

[solemn elm]

no

[rigid tangle]

is there that much difference between slayer and colossus ?

[solemn elm]

yes

[green wharf]

slayer is poop

[idle falcon]

Sadly

[solemn elm]

slayer damage is very little not amazing but not good either, with colossus you can create more win conditions aswell as being tankier

[fierce elm]

@lavish quest

[solemn elm]

lil tankier cause of this

[rigid tangle]

sad, i do like colossus but demolish is too clunky to use

[solemn elm]

indeed

but its nice when you can get it off usually forcing some sort of cd or somethin

if not just outright killing whoever you sent it on

creating little win conditions like that

[rigid tangle]

ye tho getting cancel by whatever micro cc is tilting haha

[solemn elm]

sometimes its alright to hold a 10 stacker too to just be a little tankier for the moment is alright too

and yea that shit is def annoying but, its what they gotta do if not they would lose instantly

and then cry wolf

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/ndowGiR.png

watch it be a bot response

AI generated

[rigid tangle]

btw, since the nerf of the 100% crit, we should always 10stack demolish right ?

[green anchor]

I like to send Demo in opener often for the haste buff and then stack the next Demo to 10

gonna be even better with the cd reduction buff next patch

right now getting 10 stacks takes what feels like forever sometimes

[lavish quest]

Damn, carryin Artji?

[wheat jay]

im top dps xD

[fierce elm]

Timed two 16s

[solemn elm]

dang hopefully it can be resolved

[fierce elm]

climbed like 80 points

[solemn elm]

i send one in the opener and then every 45 seconds you can line up bolt, or shockwave, and csmash and demolish together

[lavish quest]

I'm just blitzin today. Keys have been bad, and no one wants a 3.3k brew anymore

[solemn elm]

and just line it up

[lavish quest]

🙁

[solemn elm]

c smash bolt then demolish

cant escape it

[coarse dagger]

Is it possible to kill a priest, or are they just madly overtuned?

[solemn elm]

they got 30% dam reduc perma

focused will

[fierce elm]

rolled

me and artji somehow jumped me from 14 caverns and 14 nexus to 16 as blood dk

Idk why they invited us

[lavish quest]

16s aren't as hard as I thought they would be

Just think kids are out from school so they just throwin here or there

But I can live them without much issue

[fierce elm]

kek

Idk I got 3/4 timed today

and the last was my fault tbh

[lavish quest]

I'm up like 200 rating in blitz tho so worth

[wheat jay]

me and afro could easily do 17s

ngl

XD

[lavish quest]

Ye, this shiz isn't that hard yet

[wheat jay]

afro did same dmg on 2nd boss in nexus as unholy dk...

[lavish quest]

Just need the whole team locked in. And good dam

[wheat jay]

ill still stand by what i said earlier, end of season all 18s will be probably safe 1%

all 19s

100% safe

[lavish quest]

Might be higher tbh

[wheat jay]

nah

zero systems to buff you

escept 12.0.5

[fierce elm]

Im a god

[wheat jay]

so

two weapons

two trinkets

[lavish quest]

Ye. 12.0.5 is buffin us tho lol

[wheat jay]

at 298

DONE

and people rly struggle with 16s now xD

[fierce elm]

Im gonna be a 1%er

[wheat jay]

all 16s is 1% NOW

[fierce elm]

A cool guy

[urban skiff]

12.0.5 adds ilvl increases to gear, whatever is easy now is super easy soon

[fierce elm]

I will achieve this ONCE then never again

[wheat jay]

same lol

[lavish quest]

Exactly what I'm saying

[fierce elm]

And I will never mythic raid because even fucking entry level guilds require ce experience

????

[lavish quest]

I'm not even unlocking these buffs yet still I get myths in these slots @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

thats for 4 items only tho

[lavish quest]

[urban skiff]

My guild doesn't require that, to my knowledge

[fierce elm]

Myth gear gets extra levels too

[wheat jay]

no

[lavish quest]

for the 4 slots

[wheat jay]

its only for 4 slots

weapons and trinkets

[fierce elm]

Oh its only those

lmfao

I had no idea kekw

[wheat jay]

ye

if it was all gear

then 1% would be 19s or 20s

[fierce elm]

I will be peaking

[lavish quest]

But Artji isn't factoring in how I'm only 279, so I got another 10 ilvls to go natty as well

[fierce elm]

I am already peaking

279 goddamn wtf

[wheat jay]

so you're above my ilvl

[lavish quest]

Then the buffs to the weapons and trinkets

[wheat jay]

nice

xD

[fierce elm]

Im 277 😠

[wheat jay]

brother youre STACKED in gear

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fierce elm]

with the goddamn CRUCIBLE TRINKET still

[lavish quest]

Well yeah, but what I'm saying is EVERYONE WILL GO UP IN ILVL

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

but I will loot gaze on Wednesday

[lavish quest]

Aka, cut off go up

🙂

[wheat jay]

and 16s are 1% NOW

right now, we're probably gonna smooth sail to all 17s with afro

[lavish quest]

I only got 15s :/

But all at 15 at least

[fierce elm]

Maybe I will learn the game at 18s

[lavish quest]

Creatures are out today tho

Been ruff

[wheat jay]

also, jumps between keys are bigger

[urban skiff]

couple of weeks into the season, remember the player pool is unlikely to grow as much as the average of the current player pool

[fierce elm]

Having Artji calculate percentage for me mid key

[wheat jay]

EZ

[wheat jay]

brother

its mid season

what do you mean couple weeks

[urban skiff]

mid is a couple

wtf

[fierce elm]

its not even mid season

[wheat jay]

people are already mosttly mythic gear

[fierce elm]

We are 3 weeks in

[wheat jay]

oh

well

[solemn elm]

idk about mid season

[wheat jay]

either way

[fierce elm]

lmfao

WE ARE AT WEEK 3

[urban skiff]

I feel so gaslighted right now

[lavish quest]

You know what's funny?
Day it was announced I checked cut off for NA. Was 3417. Few days later cut off was like 3370. It went down

[wheat jay]

normal people doing 14s now, won't be doing 20s end of season if they get 5ilvls more

[urban skiff]

I just figured artji was right and adapted to the new knowledge

[lavish quest]

If you're on NA. Please make alts and do a key or two on them

Thanks

[fierce elm]

Yeah it goes up and down

[solemn elm]

the season really starts now on tuesday when all of these changes happen

we we're just beta testing

[fierce elm]

whats the cutoff rn

[solemn elm]

and the void forge

[wheat jay]

won't change much ngl

or rather, won't mean that ppl will do now 20s easy

[lavish quest]

3406 is NA cut off RN

[wheat jay]

or something

why na cutoff so low????

wtf

[lavish quest]

3406.36 to be exact

[wheat jay]

3460 eu xD

[fierce elm]

3460 EU

[lavish quest]

We're all PvP chuds

[fierce elm]

so 152 off

that aint bad

[wheat jay]

jumped from 3450 today xD

[lavish quest]

I'm just hoping the casual wow addicts sand bag it

[wheat jay]

xd

ye

[fierce elm]

Its a vibe

[lavish quest]

Like getting it, while only pugging, would be dope

[fierce elm]

I think you can pug it

[wheat jay]

ye

[lavish quest]

I haven't got io with friends since like 10s ot 12s

Peepo_Kek

[stuck mulch]

living the pug life

imagine having premades

[lavish quest]

It's awful

But it's all we've got

[wheat jay]

i mean, me doing it with afro is basically, i know a tank thats not dogshit

[lavish quest]

@elfin surge won't key with me

[wheat jay]

and afro gets a dps that doesnt die and does top dps xD

[stuck mulch]

premade snob

[wheat jay]

oh i still ahve my guildies

[lavish quest]

Minor side track

[wheat jay]

with whom i'll be doing 17s and 18s

xD

[lavish quest]

https://x.com/mmatt14/status/2045385094983209316?s=46&t=3dojMHt-s2W1IaAn5GB1kw

Mᜋtt (@MMatt14)

some guy from Reddit puts a GTX 1080 in the oven and it got resurrected from the dead

PC hardware market is so bad people have to commit Necromancy now

X · Apr 18, 2026, 6:13 AM

[urban skiff]

Sounds like heat resoldered a bad connection

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

exactly what happened

[urban skiff]

You can tell it's a gamer because that oven has seen ZERO usage

[fierce elm]

lmfao

Artji on first pull "YO BRO"

[wheat jay]

brother, it was maisara

[fierce elm]

Artji second mid pull caverns "LOTSA CASTERS HERE BROTHER"

[wheat jay]

how many maisaras did you do?

[fierce elm]

meanwhile me: "The route told me to do this"

[wheat jay]

XD

[stuck mulch]

berserkers man

fucking hate em

[fierce elm]

naa

first pull is fine if you follow the kira route

[exotic forge]

Funny how my 14 Maisara is my best run all season

No deaths

[fierce elm]

these hoeever

in fact this entire section

[stuck mulch]

i like those

i just hate bersekers

[urban skiff]

with 12.0.5 we can have the official route always enabled

no more of this custom shit

[fierce elm]

That aint the official route

but it is a good stepping stone into m+

from what I ahve heard it is fine to do up to 14-15s with

[urban skiff]

Yea I know, I'm saying the one blizzard enables at low level m+ can be enabled at all difficulties after 12.0.5

[fierce elm]

but eventually you need to transition into these more ballsy pulls

Yeah it is huge pog

because its a huge thing keeping new tanks back

[urban skiff]

It is for me

[fierce elm]

I got the route up on my 2nd monitor checking it

[urban skiff]

I was so ready to tank and doing a pretty good job too, but then remembering routes for every run or studying a map and trying to translate that into something playable was just stupid

[fierce elm]

I like it

[urban skiff]

Now i just have to remember where paths divert from the official route instead, if i want to do something custom

[fierce elm]

it adds to the 'skill' once you get out of the lower keys and more comfy with it

[urban skiff]

like the difference between remembering all the cars in the parking lot and spotting all the red ones

[magic wing]

the biggest step

would be to make this customizable

[fierce elm]

UPDATE MY RIO RAIDER.IO

[magic wing]

just let me light up my own route

I dont like this mdt shit

[urban skiff]

did you relog?

[fierce elm]

I exited the game

not doing any more keys today

at least not tryhard keys

I might do some vibe keys

[stuck mulch]

i just want 1-2 premades

[urban skiff]

i might have convinced wife to play with me

[stuck mulch]

my guild suck

dookie

[magic wing]

tanking is enough mental load as is

[fierce elm]

I just grab artji

[magic wing]

compared to just blasting as dps

[fierce elm]

idk what mental load it is tbh

outside of just learning routes

[magic wing]

you are responsible for the dungeon lol

[fierce elm]

I have had ZERO toxicity in all my keys and they are mostly pugged with entire gorup or 3 parts of the group

[magic wing]

you fuck up its ggs

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah but any role can do that

[stuck mulch]

it is wat it is

[fierce elm]

a DPS that dies 20 times will deplete a key

[magic wing]

nah dps dies nobody cares

[fierce elm]

a healer that can't heal will deplete a key

[magic wing]

you die 4 ppl die

[fierce elm]

This shit matters

[stuck mulch]

dps can fuck mechanics

[magic wing]

yeah ofc

[fierce elm]

There is a point where that shifts

[stuck mulch]

and they can give you BoP and wipe the grp

[fierce elm]

and I am noticing it right now

where the DPS start to matter more than the tank

[stuck mulch]

shit needs to die

FAST

[fierce elm]

because it isn't about rotating defensives anymore becuase you do DIE and run out of defensives

I can't infinitely tank shit anymore

and the healer can't infinitely heal me unless they are gamers

Making the large pulls possible that time keys possible

The only 'mental' load is learning routes basically

and knowing your spec

but even the DPS should know the routes for optimal cooldown usage

I think the healer has the highest mental load out of any role in M+ and it's not even close

[lavish quest]

What build you running?

[fierce elm]

A bad healer can't be carried, a bad tank/dps can

[exotic forge]

When I pull aggro from tank and I'm forced to parry

[fierce elm]

If you pull aggro from the tank now its either you attacking before they gather or before they can grab aggro

[stuck mulch]

this one, i changed to more tanky

[fierce elm]

lmao

As soon as they land one ability threat is not an issue

[exotic forge]

I've had it happen multiple times in pugs where the tank genuinely can't hold aggro

[stuck mulch]

is ur tank a guardian druid?

[exotic forge]

And I'm forced to wait and hold back dps

[fierce elm]

kek

[exotic forge]

[stuck mulch]

noone has pulled aggro from me and ive had people go fucking 600k dps aoe

[fierce elm]

I blame the DPS if aggro gets pulled

[exotic forge]

Funny enough I saw a bear tank today

[stuck mulch]

some poeple go mental

[exotic forge]

Endangered species

[fierce elm]

because it is generally always tied to attacking BEFORE I get to gather

[stuck mulch]

had a elemental shaman do 300k burst on bosses

like wat

da fuq

[fierce elm]

yeah

Artji was doing 300k+ on burn phase in nexus point

UHDK doing 1 mill+ on large packs

[magic wing]

if healer was the "hardest"

tank wouldnt be the rarest role

[fierce elm]

Thats not really true

[stuck mulch]

people just dont wanna LEAD

[fierce elm]

because the mental load of learning routes is there

[magic wing]

nobody wants to tank

[exotic forge]

Tanking is fun

[fierce elm]

But healer is absolutely the most mental load heavy role

[exotic forge]

Healing isn't

[stuck mulch]

yeah im scared to do the healing later gonna be aids

[fierce elm]

and is probably one of the most important positions in M+

[magic wing]

and mainly its the toxic fuckers always backseat tanking

if yorue dps bro just stfu

[fierce elm]

Our rsham on nexus point saved the key four times

[lavish quest]

What I'm using now

[fierce elm]

dude was popping off

[lavish quest]

Black Ox Brew pretty good

[fierce elm]

ITS SO BEAUTIFUL

[magic wing]

you play brew ?

[fierce elm]

We got two fotm gamers in here smh

[lavish quest]

Stagger fun

🙂

[exotic forge]

Where VDH at

[fierce elm]

down bad

and in speedrun keys

[magic wing]

I still do the hot orbs on my alt monk

[exotic forge]

[lavish quest]

And even when that shit is fotm I don't like vdh

[magic wing]

what key lvl you swap to the manual M

?

[urban skiff]

@solemn elm 2s time!

[stuck mulch]

yeah ive been thinking about that one, i hate chi burst tho

[wheat jay]

i believe 370k peak there

[stuck mulch]

aslong as i get 15 resil 16s is just a matter of time

[fierce elm]

skipping that shit right into 16s apparently

because Artji just forces me into it

[wheat jay]

bloodlust window i did 400k

[wheat jay]

i mean

why bother with 15s when you can get 16 resil

[fierce elm]

true

I like a natural progression

[wheat jay]

igot my 15 resil by timing 16 seat XD

[fierce elm]

Tbf I just wanna get 3.4 before reset

which is 4 more 16s probably

[urban skiff]

first game

big yuck

[wheat jay]

yep

[stuck mulch]

sadly i gotta go the pug life

[wheat jay]

afro

ngl

i kinda wanna do a 17 key

with you

windrunner, or nexus

[fierce elm]

it might be 5 16s

[wheat jay]

or maisara

hmmm

[fierce elm]

CAVERNS MONKAS

Just slam 17 skyreach

for easy points

[lavish quest]

So...

I enter a key.

I say, I'ma do this first lust pull

[wheat jay]

ye i guess we could do skyreach

[lavish quest]

Party agrees

[stuck mulch]

[wheat jay]

tho ngl my spec is shit in caverns xD

[fierce elm]

easy points tbh

[lavish quest]

Then DK pulls an extra pack and we wipe...

[wheat jay]

ye

[lavish quest]

ANd I'm the bad tank...

[wheat jay]

skyreach undepletable except for 1st pack and 1st boss xD

[fierce elm]

that, terrace, pit, nexus

[exotic forge]

Skyreach 1st boss...

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm this is how we trinket

[fierce elm]

If I time a 16 AA then I can get some swagger

[exotic forge]

[stuck mulch]

wats wrong with first boss sky?

[wheat jay]

can do tomorrow

[exotic forge]

You either beat it or key is over

[urban skiff]

@jovial torrent did you give up on your war?

[wheat jay]

people suck xD

[stuck mulch]

i mean just kill it

[fierce elm]

I appreciate the Grounding that does nothing

cute

[wheat jay]

1st boss does plenty of dmg

[stuck mulch]

fuck is there to die by

[lavish quest]

Tbf

[fierce elm]

Crazy damage though

[lavish quest]

It's a super easy boss

[wheat jay]

has pletny of ground effects

[urban skiff]

it was a trick

[exotic forge]

It is an easy boss

[fierce elm]

Mind gaming

[wheat jay]

and can knock you down

[urban skiff]

i juked them into a false sense of security

[exotic forge]

But its also an easy boss to die to

[fierce elm]

nothing is easy when you pug stuff

[solemn elm]

you got this buddy

[stuck mulch]

tbf there have been some people getting hit by the chakram

[fierce elm]

The idea of using a personal on the toss then just walking side to side

is hard

[wheat jay]

ye lmao people dont use personals at all

[fierce elm]

then tank has the pack after that, then the first pack post bird boss

[urban skiff]

is for some

[wheat jay]

meanwhile im slamming blur off cooldown xD

[fierce elm]

those are the dangerous tank packs

But its also neglible if I tell Artji to stun

[lavish quest]

Just roll

:3

[fierce elm]

YEAH JUST ROLL

[exotic forge]

I died to the chakram on a 15 because I didn't see it coming back in time

[fierce elm]

I have to DnD and walk lmfao

[lavish quest]

RoP if you're feeling fancy

[fierce elm]

FOTM smh

[slow solstice]

artji are you pushing since arms is back

or still dead

[wheat jay]

best afro can do is walk

[fierce elm]

I will BE A BLOOD DK MAIN

[wheat jay]

m+?

[lavish quest]

Artji doesn't play war

[fierce elm]

IS IT GOOD? NO, IS IT BAD? KINDA, IS BREW JUST BETTER? YEAH