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stuck mulch
latent fossil
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Do you get anything for 2100?

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think im on 2095 lol

stuck mulch
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weapon transmogs

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the red version of all the weps

green anchor
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best version

stuck mulch
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too bad it dosent fit the paladin set atall

junior peak
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Anyone play sub rogue?

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Do you use Shiv?

stuck mulch
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sorry we only play outlaw since it was in the tournament

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or was it assa

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cant remember

junior peak
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LOL

green anchor
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Zercher plays sub

rancid granite
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@craggy cliff when to use shiv on sub

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i never used it but it seems like half do half dont lol

green wharf
green anchor
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doesn't shiv slow you down by like 70% for a time

rancid granite
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yeah

craggy cliff
junior peak
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But from my understanding

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it seems like a 2 button spec?

craggy cliff
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but can be used against warr to remove one of the rages

junior peak
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outsisde ofc the kit they have

craggy cliff
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people meme

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because it was a lot more difficult before the pruning

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there's still some nuance to playing it correctly

rancid granite
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im gonna have to start playing shiv to try it out

craggy cliff
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ye personally i play shiv vs everything

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you don't really need the other options on sub

latent fossil
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I need cocaine

lavish quest
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Sure they got it around the street corner

green anchor
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try murder row

fickle forge
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Sub is dead easy now

junior peak
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well, it wasn't

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I was being pulled out of stealth from the get go

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so annoying, it was like.. wtf

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but i'm not even ranked

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and I'm getting into 1800 rated solo shuffle

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why? I just wanna learn, leave me the fuck alone you neeks

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and the guy on my team is like 'YOU'RE LOST'... yeah I've never played this spec before in my life

latent fossil
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Try maybe skirmirsh or bg's first

rancid granite
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na Q shuffle and just keep Q'ing

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i think delves and EBG's are actually the best place

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to initially learn your class

junior peak
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and then there's some healers I can't sap, cause they're nerds and went undead

latent fossil
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WILL OF THE FORSAKEN

green wharf
urban skiff
lavish quest
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Hey nerds,
[No meme.]

With the new announced Mythic+ rewards adding a saddle for obtaining prior, and currently unobtainable, KSM and KSL mounts.
Do you feel feel like they should do something similar for prior, currently unobtainable, PvP rewards? If so, which ones? Just armor sets? Enchants? Weapons? Glad/Legend/Strategist rewards?

If so, how do you think it would best be handled?

From Multi R1s to career contenders, let me know your thoughts.

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No guarantee, but I may be able to get something into a spot where maybe like a Blizz intern or someone looks at it 😂
So let's discuss

rancid granite
urban skiff
urban skiff
lavish quest
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F it, I'm pinning it for the time being too

urban skiff
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There's seasons in the past where glad was easier to attain than today.

worldly oriole
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idk man

green anchor
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the boosts are gonna go like crazy

worldly oriole
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bliss is killing retail

urban skiff
lavish quest
urban skiff
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yea

rancid granite
urban skiff
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I love the saddles and while it's not my goal any season, I get a few more saddles every season and eventually I have what I want

copper fox
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Yea just attach the saddles to a certain rating

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Mythic saddles are higher than the 3k reward

urban skiff
copper fox
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So 2600 for Mount saddles

lavish quest
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I think that would be best. Kinda annoying "currency wise" but would be best.

wheat jay
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saddle to specific ratings, once you get 1800+ you start accumulating %progress for it

copper fox
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Idc about sets but 1800 would make sense

urban skiff
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attach rating reqs for "saddles" for weapons and mounts and illusions

lavish quest
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But I need to get community sentiment before I try to send any feedback

copper fox
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Same rating

wheat jay
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or 2000+ for armor, to make it harder, and to not give old mogs for free basically

copper fox
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With 1 token per season

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Why make it difficult

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Mounts 2600

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Rest the same

wheat jay
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yeee maybe

urban skiff
green wharf
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if you make one token per season for each thing(mount, set, ilussion) its fine to make the rating a bit lower

copper fox
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Then you get the token at 1800

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And you use it

urban skiff
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Would be 10 times harder today than back then to get

copper fox
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Once per season

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1800

wheat jay
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since blitz exists

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and shuffle exists

copper fox
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This is simple

wheat jay
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blitz and shuffle trivialize everything except for glad mount

copper fox
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1 token per ssn for elite set @ 1800
1 mount token per ssn @ 2600

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Done

wheat jay
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and glad mount should still be 3s only imo

lavish quest
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For the sets*

copper fox
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Whatever mythic is doing

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Replicate it

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Don’t be greedy

lavish quest
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Well mythic plus doesn't have class rewards

copper fox
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Ik there’s more

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Yes but

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Greed ruins your chances

urban skiff
wheat jay
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it can't work the same as the content doesnt work the same

lavish quest
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Well I will try to present the best idea, and most likely give a few branching choices

urban skiff
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There's an absolute shitton of old elite sets. Just one per season per warband would be 3 per 2 years.

wheat jay
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hell, make it top 1% for the saddle for mount

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like it was back then

copper fox
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Weap*

wheat jay
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and ppl can push

copper fox
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Is that what you mean

urban skiff
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thta's what I figured, yeah

wheat jay
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methyl, thoughts?

green wharf
wheat jay
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1% like in m+

rancid granite
lavish quest
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Once I got legit community concern/ideas, I see if I can write something up and post it

urban skiff
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Higher rating than in the past, will add another goal in between the current milestones that could get people to push just a bit further

copper fox
wheat jay
copper fox
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The token is 3400 tho

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That’s not the 1% mount

wheat jay
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ye but 3400 is incomparable to 2400 elite in pvp

green wharf
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i think 3,4 is more accessible than 1% r1 like

urban skiff
wheat jay
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lets be real

copper fox
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That’s why I said 2600

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For mount

urban skiff
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for "prestige's sake"

wheat jay
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then you make it all about mmr AGAIN

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rather than rating and being in the top 1%

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hell, maybe that 1% will be 2700, maybe 2200

lavish quest
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I will mention, there is already a feed about tweaking the new M+ thing.
Probably nothing will change, but that's already sparked a feedback thread. Which gave me the idea for this

wheat jay
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who knows

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but it will be a static thing, not reliant on mmr

urban skiff
green wharf
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if its glad mount, something rly hard, i agree with the 2.6k(maybe 2.5k for aesthethic and above the old 2.4), its not for everyone

copper fox
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Idk I like my original idea

urban skiff
wheat jay
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now, do we also give it shuffle and blitz?

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cuz that trivializes the entire thing and ppl would only play the most inflated bracket only

lavish quest
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Glad mount would prob be 3s only progression

wheat jay
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and more people would swap to meta stuff early

green wharf
lavish quest
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Rest are already any bracket

green wharf
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same as it is

copper fox
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Not blitz ideally but they probably will
Ideally it’s 3s only to increase participation

urban skiff
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there's just so many elite sets and 3 extra every expansion is a little on the low end, when we can currently farm 10 sets per season if we remain active

wheat jay
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id say 3s only myself too

copper fox
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For Mount yes

urban skiff
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man I wish reddit was half this civil

lavish quest
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For glad I imagine it would stay within 3s

green wharf
wheat jay
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or they could make it better imo, is introduce glad mount to shuffle too, but keep old mount saddle for 3s?

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thoughts?

urban skiff
lavish quest
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1 issue would be the complexity of all these seperate reward track bars and such

green wharf
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changing something that is already working dont fly well with blizz

lavish quest
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Based off of rating (and bracket for glad mount)

wheat jay
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fair

copper fox
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Make it a continuation

wheat jay
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for shuffle

latent fossil
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Thoughts on a wheelchair mount for all 1200 rating

wheat jay
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lmao

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that's vicious mount already

green wharf
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i think its better to exclude toys for now

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or it will become too bloated

lavish quest
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We just playing with ideas

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That would probably be ignored anyways

copper fox
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Seasonal saddle track turns into another track

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Imo

wheat jay
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ngl i think this is the best, and keep mount in 3s only

copper fox
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Yea

urban skiff
wheat jay
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if it was like that im fairly sure plenty of people in my guild would go for 2100 even

urban skiff
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Full send that idea

wheat jay
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or at least 1800

lavish quest
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So just get the token for hitting the rating and not grinding a saddle?

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You guys mean?

wheat jay
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oh grind a saddle 100%

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separate saddles

wheat jay
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all start AFTER vicious mount

copper fox
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You need rating tho

wheat jay
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like methyl suggested

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ye you need rating

copper fox
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0% track if you’re under rating

lavish quest
wheat jay
stuck mulch
wheat jay
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as it is the same thing we have now

lavish quest
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It would be complex for players to understand

wheat jay
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how, vicious saddle works the same

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starts above 1000 or 1400 i dont remember

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so, exactly the same thing

lavish quest
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Yes, but saddles are 1 bar.

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Now there would be like 7 lol

copper fox
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No

wheat jay
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not really, you'd have 4 bars

copper fox
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Seasonal turns into it

wheat jay
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youd have seasonal vicious mount which is a lock for other ones

lavish quest
copper fox
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You hit 1800 = boom gear token

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For Mount tho

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You work towards %

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And you get a saddle

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And pick

lavish quest
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Or... if you fill the bar, and are at 2600, you get all.of the tokens?

copper fox
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No

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lol

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1 per ssn like mythic

wheat jay
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hell, could make it X wins above 2600 then, same shit as actual glad

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or make it like 20 wins

lavish quest
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So only 1 token for any of the rewards? Lmao

wheat jay
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ye

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one per season

copper fox
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For Mount

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Yes

wheat jay
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for armors you can have it repeating

lavish quest
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I'm not talking for just the mount

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Talking for all of them

wheat jay
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weapons too

green wharf
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i think leland is getting confused cause some of you are taking like a progression bar, like it is for the seasonal vicious mount

wheat jay
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or hell, could have repeating mount too

green wharf
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it would not be like that leland

lavish quest
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I asked that

green wharf
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you just get the rating and you get the token

lavish quest
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And got no lol

copper fox
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How about

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Instead of a track

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A repeatable quest per class

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After 1800

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Must be 1800 to see the quest pop up

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And it’s 10 wins

lavish quest
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I'm trying to work out a reasonable way for it to work, that blizz could MAYBE be convinced to do

copper fox
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@ 1800+

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For a gear token

green wharf
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an quest or an achievement would work, in fact, you can add the token reward for the current acheivement system

wheat jay
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so, like glad wins but fewer wins and lower rating, ye

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would work best i think

lavish quest
copper fox
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And it’s a repeat quest

lavish quest
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Now meth's getting somewhere

copper fox
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So technically you can get alls eggs

green wharf
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i will give lunch to my grandma and come up with a edit hold on

copper fox
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Sets

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In 1 San

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Boom

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Ssn

wheat jay
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can get all sets, can do all shit you want

copper fox
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I win

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Go

wheat jay
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ye, that is nice

copper fox
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Type it

lavish quest
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Lmfao

wheat jay
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haha

lavish quest
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I still gotta run the idea across nerds

wheat jay
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but ye i agree with the quest and doing X wins above rating

lavish quest
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And give a chance for others to chip in

copper fox
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10 wins

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Easy

wheat jay
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hell, if you want to make it harder for people make it 10, then 30, then 50, and repeatable 50 XD

copper fox
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Nah just 10 lol don’t let ppl cry

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Needs to be easy for blizz to agree

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Tbh

wheat jay
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ngl id make it 10 30 50 50 50 50...

lavish quest
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Lmao

copper fox
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Do you forget who blizz is trying to cater to

wheat jay
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also, would make it more fair in shuffle, since shuffle is 6 rounds

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you knopw

lavish quest
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What if it was a bigger number, but the higher rating you were, the more progress you get?

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Like armor scraps or something

wheat jay
copper fox
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Too complicated

wheat jay
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ye

copper fox
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Just make it 10 repeated

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Jfc

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lol

lavish quest
wheat jay
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ye

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id be fine with it

lavish quest
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Players would understand a quest a lot easier

wheat jay
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but would blizz bother?

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then again, track would be easier to equalize it for all game modes

copper fox
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Making 1 repeatable quest is much simpler for their brains

wheat jay
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blitz shuffle 2s 3s

lavish quest
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And you just get "armor scraps" from wins above X rating

lavish quest
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Your 10 win repeatable thing

copper fox
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Yes

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I’m not changing my mind on that

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It’s the move

wheat jay
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you wanna make it 10 wins overall or like 10 wins and more in shuffle cuz of 6 round format?

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track would make it easier to equalize all contents

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and make it still equal to 10 wins basically

worldly oriole
wheat jay
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ehh its whatever to be fair, all versions would make it fairly easy and accessible

lavish quest
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That's why maybe you would go with armor scrap or some shit

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And different brackets give different amounts

wheat jay
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OR

copper fox
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I just think

wheat jay
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above X rating you drop specific armor scraps and just buy ensembles from vendor?

copper fox
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Blizz declines anything other than a simple path

wheat jay
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like we have now?

lavish quest
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Which is fine

wheat jay
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basically 1800 mark of honor

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2100 mark of honor

lavish quest
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If we get any change it would already be a miracle

wheat jay
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2600 mark of honor

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and then vendor with ensembles

lavish quest
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This isn't bad either

wheat jay
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that fixes it all i think

lavish quest
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Currency bloat but fuck it

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We ball

wheat jay
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currency bloat, OR

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elite mark of honor, and vendor opens up when you get seasonal achievment

cedar nacelle
green anchor
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Mark of Conquest sounds better

wheat jay
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ye mark of conquest basically

cedar nacelle
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only available from rated pvp

wheat jay
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and 1800 would unlock elite ensembles

green anchor
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could also bear the current expansion pvp name

wheat jay
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2100 would unlock elite weapons ensembles

lavish quest
wheat jay
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ye

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Cosmic Mark of Conquest

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makes it also easier to reset into future seasons

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since it wouldnt be like mark of honor that you can have millions of

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lemme pull up to broken shore to make a screenshot 1sec

fierce elm
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Give everyone everything when we log in

wheat jay
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shush afro

green anchor
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ez

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Thanks for logging in and giving us money

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here's your glad mount

fierce elm
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I mean I fixed it

wheat jay
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go away swedish beggar

fierce elm
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Fixed it

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solved issue

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Work is chaos because our internet is down

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So we have one out of 4 registers that work

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The other store is completely out here

lavish quest
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Afro, it's an actual prompt. No be dumb

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:)

wheat jay
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basically this, but instead of rating required you need specific mark of conquest dropped above X rating

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tho even if they just made it RATING EARNED DURING ANY SEASON it would still be fine

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end result would be the same

fierce elm
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Just give em for free smh

wheat jay
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afro

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be quiet

copper fox
fierce elm
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buncha fomo chasers in here

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s m h

copper fox
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Lmfao

wheat jay
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its literally anti-fomo solution

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go away

fierce elm
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Cant have my ELITE set stained by NORMAL people

wheat jay
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ok afro just dumb

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shoo

fierce elm
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Peasants whi think they can get MY transmog

wheat jay
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go away dumbass

copper fox
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Normies

lavish quest
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Afro banned for gatekeeping

wheat jay
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time to bully afro

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anyway, leland you got most of info you need to somewhat compile the post?

exotic forge
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I earned it back then

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I don't have it now

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I deserve this

wheat jay
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there is vendor then

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if you earned it back then

exotic forge
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I can't buy it lmao

wheat jay
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then you didnt earn shit

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we're gonna try to make it available to you again

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ngl equalizing pvp reward system with pve one is something id be very happy with

fierce elm
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@copper fox all these noobs tryna keep up smh

exotic forge
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Yeah, in 3 years when Blizzard cares about pvp enough to give them something

fierce elm
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Sorry work is chaos and I just wanna ragebait

wheat jay
lavish quest
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I have enough to make a good post, but I'll let this stew for a while. I'm at work so can't compose a masterful essay atm

wheat jay
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you silly goose

lavish quest
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Will give people a chance to chim in and all that

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I pinned my prompt/question

lavish quest
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If people want to throw their ideas, just @ me or reply to my post

lavish quest
fierce elm
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I think we turn WoW into a fighting game that is 2D

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Remove all abilities

stuck mulch
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HADOOKEN

wheat jay
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can i bully some pandas with my garrosh, ill onetrick him

lavish quest
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Delete wow and replace it with plunderstorm

elfin surge
green anchor
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blunderstorm

exotic forge
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Plunderstorm was fun sadge

spice hornet
lavish quest
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You got any opinions?

fierce elm
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just blank squared

green anchor
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does Better Blizz Plates let you move target cast bar?

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Blizz only lets you move your cast bar but not target one

lavish quest
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That deals with nameplates?

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Not unit frames?

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Or does it have unit frame options?

green wharf
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@lavish quest it would be like this

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so you reach 2.1k, you get duelist and a token to trade in one weapon + 1 cloak for old seasons

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my photoshop abilities arent the best

green anchor
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i want to be able to move this castbar

wheat jay
green wharf
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so you would get this for each ranking:

1.800 - Season character title: Rival & Item Reward: Elite Essemble Token
1.950 - Item Reward: Elite Illusion Token

so on

lavish quest
wheat jay
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tbh, any version of what we came up with works

green wharf
green anchor
lavish quest
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Says plates

lavish quest
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Homie correcting my reading when I read it right

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Smh

green anchor
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but there's Better Blizz Plates too

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get fugued

lavish quest
fierce elm
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smh buncha people here not wanting cool exclusive stuff

lavish quest
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The new M+ doesn't have a grind in fairness

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Just hit number and bam

exotic forge
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Why is that a gif

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what the hell

exotic forge
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"Bold words for someone within impregnating distance" - Syeg, probably

green anchor
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Syeg makes them

lavish quest
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This is kinda Syeg's specialty

green wharf
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there are worse ones

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but afro fear them

lavish quest
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Afro fears Syeg

fierce elm
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lmao

tribal wedge
elfin surge
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I wouldnt mind it either

wheat jay
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why make an easy shit into hard shit

elfin surge
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Making older glad mounts obtainable could be cool

green wharf
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1.6k today is like 2.2k in the old days clueless

wheat jay
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the other way around syeg xD

green wharf
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i saw some old mop arenas

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people used the ancient method of walking back

wheat jay
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okay but we're not going mop lmao

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calm down

tribal wedge
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(ngl if it's 1k8 i'm all good too, but some grumpy people want to gate keep it, so let's try to find a compromise)

wheat jay
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fuck grumpy people

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they can suck a cock

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👍

lavish quest
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There's the compromise

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I like the keeping the rewards at the same level and maybe making old glad mounts 2.5k

wheat jay
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yep

lavish quest
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also if you think about it. Old glad is like current 1400

wheat jay
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skill wise, probably all until like wod

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id argue legion was the moment people's skill skyrocketed

lavish quest
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Well it's been rising. So still harder now I imagine

wheat jay
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ye i guess

green wharf
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And everyone is happy PeepoYay

green anchor
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Elite for 2100?

wheat jay
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for weapons

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1800 for armor token

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1950 for illussion token

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2100 for weapon ensemble token

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and 2500 or something would be glad mount

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with glad mount limited to 3s as it is now

green wharf
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one sec

copper fox
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How do you make this calculation lol

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Glad is easier than it’s ever been

lavish quest
copper fox
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I disagree

lavish quest
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Try getting glad rn on a toaster, back pedaling and clicking a button every 5s

wheat jay
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ppl used to be dogshit

copper fox
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Yea in tbc maybe

wheat jay
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remember when classic tbc was launching and everyone was going all "all those private servers glads will demolish retail players"

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same when wotlk launched

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and ye all glads on those servers were just retail glads fucking around for fun

copper fox
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Right but the people who were ahead of them were people playing back then too

wheat jay
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same with raids, skill level of players was just MUCH lower

copper fox
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So that’s irrelevant

wheat jay
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compared to now

copper fox
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Also, the NA ladders top 3 was a private server jungle all of cata

wheat jay
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so, difficulty by % of playerbase stayed the same, but overall skill level of players is infinitely harder

copper fox
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And pserver Rmp all of tbc

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Same for eu

green wharf
copper fox
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Any system where you have to play until the last day is harder.
Also, what is the comparison to it being harder here, players back then were worse. So are you taking yourself from the future and porting there to be better with future game knowledge/ability? because if not the playing field is exactly the same

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And it’s not easier to get glad

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Because you would suck also

lavish quest
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Unemployment check

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Tony skillset

green anchor
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the gameplay back then was also simpler

lavish quest
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Meth is correct

copper fox
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None of that is relevant to the ease of getting glad

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lol

lavish quest
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But skill level wise, it's vastly different between then and now lol

copper fox
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That I can agree on yea

lavish quest
green wharf
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today the addons play for you right clueless

lavish quest
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If you played back then, it would still be comparably as hard if not harder

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We were all regards on toasters back then

copper fox
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I played tbc on my moms Mac desktop lol

green wharf
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the game was much less heavy too

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i think it was in legion where my pc died off

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cause it couldnt run

wheat jay
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dalaran having 2min loading time

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for entire expansion

green anchor
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I never had perf issues until WoD

lavish quest
fierce elm
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I have had performance issues ever since Meth DMd me some weird pics

green wharf
copper fox
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Get rekt

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Idiot

solemn elm
# copper fox I played tbc on my moms Mac desktop lol

when i was newer in mop like 5.4 i played on a all in one computer for a while stark nice 30 fps every time then drops to like atleast 10 ill never forget doing heart of fear but it was a slide show was the first raid ive ever done

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played like all of wod with that shit and in finally by like the end of legion i learned what it was to have 60 fps

green anchor
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since MoP i've had random lag spikes and disconnects

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never happened in any other game

exotic forge
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No no no

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I reckon they should do the same thing as what they're doing with m+

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Give people a token or something at 2,4k+ to buy old elite ensembles or weapons

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They should NOT be able to buy previous mounts

lavish quest
exotic forge
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Armor/weapons/illusions are fine

jovial torrent
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the system has been posted about over and over in the pvp reddit/forums, thats why its so funny m+ got it first

lavish quest
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Technically they're copying vicious saddles

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So pvp got it first

jovial torrent
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nah vicious saddles are a completely different thing

lavish quest
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But pvp has a lot more season exclusive rewards

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So it needs it

lavish quest
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The m+ thing is a saddle you buy an old seasons mount with

topaz oar
jovial torrent
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the vicious saddle is a mount u just get for q'ing pvp theres almost no score needed , its like a io 500 mount

exotic forge
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They're gonna let you buy old seasonal mounts tho

lavish quest
lavish quest
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But the system design is similar

jovial torrent
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similar but clearly its blizz seeing the pvp posts on reddit not copying vicious saddle system

lavish quest
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Idk, i don't frequent reddit so dunno what they sayin

topaz oar
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it's reddit so it's whatever key the drool hits

jovial torrent
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since like tww season 2 or maybe sooner its been posted about alot, im pretty sure i talked about it here too , it woudl just be great for participation if you could get 1 elite armour token/ enchant token/mount token a season for playing a bunch of games at x rating

solemn elm
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please let these rewards be obtainable from only arena and not battle ground blitz so it’s actually difficult to obtain AJearlesssmile

jovial torrent
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i assume m+ key numbers are going to explode too

lavish quest
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Gambling is hard

lavish quest
jovial torrent
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i just find it funny theres some ppl that want it to be stupidly hard which would negate the participation , theres no point adding a token behind like 2700 for armour

lavish quest
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I'm guessing

solemn elm
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would be good to actually put in effort to get the reward instead of playing for participation

solemn elm
copper fox
jovial torrent
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make it like 1900 for a armour token, 2k for enchant 2.2 for weps 2.4 for mount

topaz oar
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there's two just need the 3rd

copper fox
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Dudes glazing us

solemn elm
jovial torrent
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it doesnt have to be harder than that

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just 100-200 wins at the ratings i said

lavish quest
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Tokens will be for 1200 in arena, 2600 in blitz. To keep it equivalent

jovial torrent
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3400 is nothing compared to 2300 in 3v3, 1% in m+ for this new shiny mount is also nothing cus glad is 0.1% and m+ has alooooot more players so 1% of many more players is way more ppl getting mount

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u can also scam m+ system by running like 30 alts a season like in classic wow marshal

lavish quest
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How does alts help you in the m+ rating?

jovial torrent
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it increases the pool making 1% more ppl

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lets say glad is like 6k ppl, m+ mount is probs guna be like 100k

lavish quest
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Not sure people will do that

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But yes, everyone run 100 chars thru at least one key please

jovial torrent
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in classic ppl made honor farming discords to stack the brackets

lavish quest
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Top 1% of m+ atm is 3417 ish

jovial torrent
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and how many 3v3 plaers is it atm

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100?

lavish quest
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3v3 deadge

jovial torrent
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so 81 ppl atm have glad mount maybe more i dunno when they update site

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glad mount is 42x harder atm

lavish quest
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3400 isn't the m+ glad tho?

solemn elm
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because no rating to go around and nobody plays early season, the activity spikes up by a giant margin once people actually start playing

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around mid to the end of the season

jovial torrent
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what % is 3400 atm, cus ppl havent been pushing yet

solemn elm
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can’t really base it off that either

lavish quest
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A lil over 1%

jovial torrent
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i mean even at the end of the season it wont be that many ppl above it, alot of ppl atm just do weekly 10 in m+

lavish quest
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The cut off will change by end of season tho

jovial torrent
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hopfully its a huge success in m+ participation and they will copy it in a way for 3v3/solo

lavish quest
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It will be higher

solemn elm
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more myth gear to go around

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and crests

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by then

lavish quest
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Kinda surprised they doing it with M+

jovial torrent
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yeh, i dunno why they bothered with the 1% reward its a bit dumb and toxic

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the 3400 token is cool tho

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i wonder what the "new mounts" will be on the vendor

lavish quest
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They probably shoulda made like token 3200, this "glad" mount 3400, but meh

solemn elm
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will at minimum be for a mount if it’s for pvp because they always give us but it’d be fantastic for other rewards

jovial torrent
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they should do it all, id kill for one of the old enchants or wod season 1 gear

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and the black legion set with shoulder spikes

solemn elm
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ya dominant set

jovial torrent
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make it only for healers keks

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u must play a healer at 2200 , 500 wins

solemn elm
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should actually have to work for it though not get it at like 1900 or smth needs to actually have effort involved my lil cousin gonna be wearing primal elite if it’s like some piss rating

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by then the actual coolness factor is just gone

lavish quest
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Cool factor already gone

solemn elm
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really likes to get infront of the screen

topaz oar
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does wod elite armor get me egirls?

jovial torrent
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i agree it shouldnt be super ez, like if it was in solo shuffle right now its a decent challenge but if it was in blitz its a bit of a joke, put a bit of a grind behind it but u want it to be similar to what rewards are now, otherwise noone will do it

rancid granite
jovial torrent
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i was lucky my cats just wanted to sit behind my back not on my desk

urban skiff
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For anyone curious, there's now a list of spells that are tagged defensive and inportant

jovial torrent
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🙏 now blizzard please add them to pvp whitelist

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and add a filter to minicc for specific buffs/debuff

green anchor
topaz oar
jovial torrent
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it has a freakin animated horn , tho it will only get you eboys, sorry

solemn elm
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helmet and shoulders have a really cool animation where spikes come out

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then it morphs back into normal

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only elite set in the game with that type of stuff

jovial torrent
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as a gundam enjoyer is haunts me that i missed it

green wharf
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is there a place where i can see all of them?

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only the legion one caught my eye, for warriors

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cause the blackj and red goes with with other pieces

green anchor
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I think it's sick but I'd prefer the spikes being out all the time

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without the anim

jovial torrent
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would be neat if they added a toggle, like they are for sheathed weapons

solemn elm
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there are multiple in legion

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vindictive/fearless, cruel and i forget the other one dominant/ demonic

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the one you want is demonic

green anchor
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huh

jovial torrent
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i just need to wait for them to port classic chars to retail then it wont matter cus il have CM gear, t3 and ashbringer

solemn elm
# green anchor huh

in legion there was multiple pvp seasons in one patch as opposed to it just being one lame season until it’s over and it shares with pve

green anchor
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oh ok i wasn't sure what you were referring to

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yeah like 7 seasons in Legion

solemn elm
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way better than the shit we have now

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more rewards too

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more mounts each season had a different tabard

jovial torrent
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i think awc is starting soon btw

green anchor
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more rogue+mage ''fun''

jovial torrent
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hey now, dont forget those lovely WW

solemn elm
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ww frost mage vs rogue mage most likely again

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or feral mage

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basically you can guarantee like it’s mage mistweaver and then like X

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just anything any bs you can come up with

jovial torrent
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im interested to see if ppl have figured out how to counter outlaw, semed like by the end of cup 1 outlaw fell off

urban skiff
jovial torrent
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i got the weps but i didnt really do any pve in mop, i feel like i played a bit of star wars mmo then

vapid tartan
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ww gets crazy pressure on mage

jovial torrent
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yeh im just wondering if the outlaws figured out a playstlye to beat it and bring rm supremacy back

rancid granite
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the reason WW is meta is purely cause its just higher dmg and pressure isnt it

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they dont seem to do anything too special

vapid tartan
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good control too

green anchor
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Song is a pretty good cc

jovial torrent
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yeh pretty much they just have insain burst and its not telegraphed that well, and in pro's hands they are pretty good at porting away and kiting when in danger#

green anchor
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they even dub it ''song of gg''

jovial torrent
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its the most miserable thing playing healer against mw lol

vapid tartan
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reroll

jovial torrent
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they charge in, para u, they f up and para too far away, doesnt matter , boom leg sweep into sleep

rancid granite
vapid tartan
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god

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Clash bugging me into terrain

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neverforget

solemn elm
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very fun

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so great randomly getting clashed on robodrome and i go around the ramp

vapid tartan
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any z axis spear enjoyers

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🙂

solemn elm
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working as intended

jovial torrent
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its kind of funny they removed repentance from hpala, then gave druid ns clone and left monk with 3 cc's

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glare also replaces blind when u talent it on pala

vapid tartan
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It’s crazy how all they had to do was increase the size and give it the leap and someone they broke it completely

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Lmfao

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like where is my spear going

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To the void?

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Midnight theme?

solemn elm
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i wish i knew but it seems to be more bugged if you use the kyrian glyph too which is so irritating

jovial torrent
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they hate warriors having nice things, not beinh able to heroic leap up slight inclines was greeaaat

vapid tartan
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I just want my 1.5 min cd to work atp

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god forbid I throw it on a hill in bg

jovial torrent
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its probs some protection they built in so u cant pin ppl off the ground , they should just copy the druids vortex code for it

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that ground targeting works just fine

vapid tartan
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yea it never worked in water before unless it was very shallow

solemn elm
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would be sick to be able to les up to mugumbala when a lock gates up instead the spear will dissapear

vapid tartan
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🙂

solemn elm
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seems to happen a lot in cage of carnage too around where the ramps are it happened to me like two games in a row

vapid tartan
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I haven’t fought a good lock on muga yet

solemn elm
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i got so irritated

vapid tartan
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Gonna be so aids with the increased mobility

jovial torrent
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i keep forgetting the name but the one with wooden ramps at entrance in desert bug it too

solemn elm
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nokhundon proving grounds

jovial torrent
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if ur not on the ramp and u try throw spear at it, it vanishes

solemn elm
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yea i’ve been making more of a mental note to just throw it at them when they are like in a flat surface more or less so i don’t end up just throwing it into outer space

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cause of that wack ass bug

green wharf
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im getting folded in half by sub man

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one stun one kill

stuck mulch
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looks like ur the sub now

green wharf
lavish quest
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Slowly chipping away at that feedback post

copper fox
lavish quest
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I still gotta so work stuff

urban skiff
fierce elm
wheat jay
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i started leveling my warr

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for some m+

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and alt fun

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dh is fun and all

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but no class gives me the same satisfaction as arms

stuck mulch
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ret*

fierce elm
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we got 15s buddy

green wharf
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yesterday i did a cool outplay by mistake

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i was going to stun the mage

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but pressed shattering throw instead

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and the mage iceblocked

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so i could kill him easy

wheat jay
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brother im down to go for that 1%

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xD

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legit

fierce elm
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Idk if I am that down

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Gotta get a group for that tbh

copper fox
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Jfc

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This guy always goes 3/4th the way

wheat jay
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we could pug it

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100%

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1 good dps

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1 good tank

fierce elm
#

IM A TANK

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oh you mean like that

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It is probably gonna be all 18s no?

wheat jay
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who knows

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let me check

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right now

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3419

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if its all factions

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3364 if horde only

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but probably all xd

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15s and 16s XD

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ok, all 16s

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and youre in 1% now

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so, easy as fuck lmao

fierce elm
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I mighr have a healer

wheat jay
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hmmm

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then we'd be pugging what, two dps?

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thats alright

lavish quest
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Keep in mind gear will keep rising, and that forge power boost

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Top 1% will climb

fierce elm
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it will

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it will definitely be 18-19s

wheat jay
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ye

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but we'll also get more gear

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so 18-19 end of season

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doable for sure

jovial torrent
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just wait for ppl crying that they need raid trinkets to compete in m+ top 1%

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and the rare neck/ring

wheat jay
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the usual

fierce elm
urban skiff
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It's the top 1.1% players who complain

green wharf
jovial torrent
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i can agree with both sides tbh, its like if pve trinkets were viable in pvp again

fierce elm
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But at the same time you can go HC raid

wheat jay
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hc trinkets vs mythic trinkets

urban skiff
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But since we're 1 week away from bad luck protection, I'm sure those 1% aspirants can manage just fine

wheat jay
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the difference is VERY small

fierce elm
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But next season we got absurd m+ trinkets

wheat jay
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ye xD

fierce elm
wheat jay
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especially for tanks

jovial torrent
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we know the next m+ rotation already?

urban skiff
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They only have to buy 3 or 4 boosts on mythic whatever to get the item they need

wheat jay
lavish quest
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Tbh, I'm puzzled they're doing a top 1% mount

wheat jay
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lfr gaze vs mythic gaze is not x2

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its like x1.3

jovial torrent
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same @lavish quest

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they have been on the route of tring to move away from catering to top 1% then 180 again

urban skiff
wheat jay
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weapon no

urban skiff
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it's neck and weapon, figure it's fine in offhand

wheat jay
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neck yes

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weapon sucks

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any hero track is better

urban skiff
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weapon is 7 int loss

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and like 1 total secondary stat

jovial torrent
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i just cant beleive theres a chance i start gearing dk, ive gotten such good drops on my mage

urban skiff
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are you doing pve too?

jovial torrent
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i "casually" get the keystone master with guild and run hc

wheat jay
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if lower ilvl, use something else

jovial torrent
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if only arcane was better

lavish quest
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Mage...

urban skiff
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but it's pvp champ

jovial torrent
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i have 11 level 90's , i came prepaired for blizz bullshit copium

rancid granite
lavish quest
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Cuz you could get it guaranteed without M raiding

rancid granite
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nevermind fyrakk axe tho

lavish quest
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Kek

rancid granite
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yeah exactly

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took some like higher rating SS for the upgrade though iirc

jovial torrent
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i skipped dragonflight, was the axe mythic only or could u grind i slightly slower at lower difficulty

rancid granite
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maybe from delves too

lavish quest
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Was easy enough to get the upgrades

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Just did some trivial pve

jovial torrent
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i only had normal mode gurthalak back in cata, wish i had hc, it was like another players dps ontop of u

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and it went through pillars cus channel

fierce elm
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also imagine not having rare neck smh

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its a whooping 1% damage increase

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at MOST

jovial torrent
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got it from like week 2 pve quest

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shame the stats arent flipped for master>haste

lavish quest
jovial torrent
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champ rare neck is a 1.5% loss over my hc neck sadge

green wharf
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i hear the warning about the pvp box in the map

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but none shows up

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does this happen to anyone here?

jovial torrent
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pvp box in the map?

green wharf
jovial torrent
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oh, the warning is a bit laggy somtimes, usually box shows up on map in next 10 secs

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well the plane i mean, box then takes a bit to land

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Mana Tea now restores 50% less mana in PvP combat.
Life Cocoon’s absorb amount reduced by 25% in PvP combat.
Chrysalis reduces the cooldown of Life Cocoon by 30 seconds in PvP combat (was 45 seconds).

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pretty good but doesnt stop monks utility/cc dominance

green wharf
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they dont show up

idle falcon
jovial torrent
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it worked fine for me, but i havent gone for crates in past few days

lavish quest
#

Another interjection to strengthen what I'm trying to do.

If you feel like they make some change to make past unobtainable rewards tell me:

Why?
What's behind the pain point?
How big/frequent of an issue is it for you?

Stuff like that. Appreciate any responses

jovial torrent
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i was sad to see 95% of the notes were pve only but oh well

green wharf
warm plinth
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make magic rooster and spectral tiger a twitch drop

lavish quest
idle falcon
lavish quest
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"I think the fomo pvp rewards suck because...."

green wharf
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i will try to put in words after i get home

lavish quest
warm plinth
lavish quest
lavish quest
idle falcon
warm plinth
lavish quest
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Displayed is a poor word there

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But ah well

warm plinth
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oh so its just asking if youre aware if ads in general are made with AI

rancid granite
#

fomo for pvp is what gives it agency tho do people not like this? there's so many titles I wanted but it's tied to past pvp rewards I'd feel like it loses all prestige if you can get it again after the fact

warm plinth
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I give you a C for english

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anyways ill fill it out, gl with 65 more replies

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inb4 its due tomorrow

idle falcon
warm plinth
idle falcon
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Dr wouldn't let people make their own questions

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requirement was to take other peoples

warm plinth
#

what

green wharf
warm plinth
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the hell class are you taking keks

idle falcon
lavish quest
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Teacher required you to yoink

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Bold

idle falcon
jovial torrent
#

yet raid has no fomo and has way more players @fierce elm , fomo has diminishing returns imo, at some point it just turns new people away, i was pretty bummed to find out i cant get the cool ffxiv sets/mounts cus i didnt play their massive pvp mode frontline

idle falcon
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i can't put anything except it be taken from a paper

warm plinth
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school back then: dont use wikipedia
school now: yeah just plagiarize

idle falcon
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except the explaination of how i gathered the data

warm plinth
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???

idle falcon
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and analysis of it

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thats mine

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i do my own words

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xD

warm plinth
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what subject is this class

lavish quest
idle falcon
warm plinth
idle falcon
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"seminar in marketing"

rancid granite
jovial torrent
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top % i think

lavish quest
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They have education in Egypt?

jovial torrent
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but its a heavily wintraded mode

lavish quest
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I troll, I troll

jovial torrent
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its 40v40v40 or somthing

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an 24v24v24

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i think last year ffxiv made old pvp elite sets re obtainable through current pvp season

rancid granite
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damn ok the top rewards like 1% should never be re-obtainable

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maybe like bronze tier or silver tier rewards but not gold tier

warm plinth
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re-obtainable after x years and make it as hard to reobtain them

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no cheesing to reobtain

rancid granite
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👎 you can't recreate the same difficulty

urban skiff
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@fierce elm how's your UHDK experience so far?

warm plinth
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you could

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say you want to bring mage tower back, make you scale to x level of power at x time of legion

urban skiff
jovial torrent
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it really doesnt

idle falcon
# lavish quest They have education in Egypt?

yes they teach us 𓅓 𓄿 𓍿, 𓃀 𓅱 𓋴 𓇋 𓈖 𓇋 𓋴 𓋴, 𓅓 𓄿 𓂋 𓎡 𓇋 𓏏 𓇋 𓈖 𓎼, and 𓋴 𓏏 𓂋 𓄿 𓏏 𓇋 𓎼 𓇋 𓎢 𓅓 𓄿 𓈖 𓄿 𓎼 𓅓 𓇋 𓈖 𓏏

rancid granite
# warm plinth you could

it's unique to that point and time and which players were playing etc etc it's the whole point of competitive sports

wheat jay
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its pixels

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for very easy thing

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who cares lmao

warm plinth
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that too

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i aint grinding any cosmetic anymore, cba

wheat jay
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just give it to people XD

rancid granite
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i want to win my trophy not because i want it because i want everyone else not to have it

jovial torrent
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it sure is hard autoattacking my way to invincible mount

rancid granite
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and i want to use it to rub it in peoples faces

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that i won

wheat jay
#

ye

warm plinth
wheat jay
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but you lost cuz you spent time and effort getting pixels in the end

jovial torrent
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i agree it should be decently difficult, but it needs to be approacable in icrements, or its a waste of time

rancid granite
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i dont wanna win a trophy and have someone win the same trophy at a later date they need to beat me for my trophy

jovial torrent
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theres a reason theres a 2k 2500 3k and now 3.4k reward in m+ instead of slamming it all at 3500+

wheat jay
green wharf
wheat jay
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its a participation reward basically

rancid granite
wheat jay
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its not 0.1% rank one

green wharf
#

rogues still untouched

rancid granite
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everyone can have the bronze trophy idc

warm plinth
wheat jay
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okay, titles are 0.1%

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glad is 2400

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give people glad mounts

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why not

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one is %

warm plinth
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yeah thats fine

wheat jay
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other is number

warm plinth
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mounts are whatever, titles should be a one time thing

rancid granite
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yeah

jovial torrent
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i agree keep titles prestiege

wheat jay
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so, end of story?

rancid granite
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gold trophy fomo, silver and bronze reobtainable

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settled

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gg

urban skiff
#

classic ashran this week, if anyone wants free conquest and stuff

warm plinth
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yea

wheat jay
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good

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fucking titles noone cares

warm plinth
#

sacrolash is still my most grinded for item in wow during legion

lavish quest
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Meth cares

rancid granite
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thats the only thing i care about

jovial torrent
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im all sorted on conquest

rancid granite
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no ugly ass mounts ill never use

wheat jay
#

do you have r1 titles aatos?

warm plinth
rancid granite
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im farming karesh trust for a title cause i can't win r1 titles

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👍

green anchor
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Galactic Warlord

warm plinth
#

r1 classic + week 1

jovial torrent
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50 conquest a pop for playing a game of solo shuffle on healer @warm plinth

warm plinth
#

oh sweet

jovial torrent
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so ez 6k conq

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il probs just spread it out on alts later to unlock weps

warm plinth
#

👀