not trying to be difficult
#pvp
urban skiff
wheat jay
Brother, watch streamers how they move
I swear positioning is make or break at higher ratings
jovial torrent
omni made a good video giving general strat in rbg
copper fox
You open weedtylers stream.. he always types out what specs to where
You can read right
So if ret always sits ww
jovial torrent
wheat jay
You can read right
No
copper fox
Then tell your ret to sit we
Ww
So you literally can learn if you can read
Oh, he always tells warrior disc to go bs?
Ok I’ll type that too
Gg
green anchor
love mogging everyone at bs while the rest of my team fails at every other base
copper fox
Yea that’s always fun lol
jovial torrent
or cheat and play pres or rogue and if u wana giga cheat duo q both
green anchor
crazy how rogue can fill almost every role in bgs
jovial torrent
rogue feral are like the 2 classes that can stealth up and steal a base for win and pres u auto win every fc map if ur the only pres
copper fox
Yea if you’re a good rogue you can win every map in the lower brackets
jovial torrent
pres/rogue also great orb holders of kotmogu
urban skiff
another fucking 20 hour game that ends with wife oom
jovial torrent
if ur fury take deathwish and just blast ppl in kotmogu
is she playing voidweaver or oracle
jovial torrent
have her try void for some fun, its really broken in 2's ithink, she may even out dmg u
urban skiff
have her try void for some fun, its really broken in 2's ithink, she may even ou...
it doesn't work with enhancement
half the teams are rogue or mage variants and starts her out in a massive cc chain we can't do anything about
voidweaver doesn't work when it falls behind
jovial torrent
dunno, might end up killing someone in the duration of shock totem, or u can take counterstrike when they try go her
urban skiff
dunno, might end up killing someone in the duration of shock totem, or u can tak...
2s is just us taking turns being hit
it was never this bad in TWW
pale crow
i tried the command your team aproach
failed spectacularly
Nobody reads chat it seems
jovial torrent
my other priest is lvl 37 atm so maybe i can try some void 2's with u for lols
urban skiff
I only play my shaman with her, so we keep our ratings in sync
pale crow
we won because i sitted healers and they are all terrible so they die easily, thank god
urban skiff
🙁
just crashing for some reason
well I know the reason, downward spiral initiated by playing vs like 16 sub rogues in a row
solemn elm
i think you should just bust out gigadwarf bro
geniunely
if you want to climb
gigadwarf has been sitting there waiting the calling like it’s batman
solemn elm
and he sees the sigil in the sky
green anchor
252 games already
urban skiff
having to work this hard against other 1600 players
I was like 120 rating from R1 2s and now I'm just fumbling down here
jovial torrent
mendora pumping
urban skiff
Just every go everybody has a counter and every their go, they can just prevent us from doing anything
genuinely, can I have a lasso that doesn't CC myself?
I will find the floor someday
stuck mulch
not even close @lavish quest 
i pulled big dude in the tower towards the last boss
then i missed one orb
wheat jay
I will find the floor someday
How
stuck mulch
clenched it with touch of death
solemn elm
LOL
just need to bust out gigadwarf man
youd have a better fighting chance
its not even about overcoming the challenge at this point
imagine gigadwarf ontop of all of these r shamans youre fighting and mendora is just able to free cast and destroy them and dub fear the dps and the shaman
urban skiff
How
Fuckton of sub rogue + mw teams just crashed mmr from 1750ish to 1500 then that initiated a loss streak from 1700 cr down under 1600 and we just keep yoyoing now
All the warlock teams feel so insanely oppressive now. I lost so much cc from tww to now. I honestly am close to just calling it on 2s and try and make 3s work
Mages untouchable
WWs are at least (almost) free wins
Wish they would give me instant hex or just something, but even that is just stupid because of how many healers can counter that, vs a physical stun
green anchor
what's that 100% crit rate
lavish quest
Look mom, I'm famous!
green anchor
for dying
lavish quest
Me and Flep fucked him
green anchor
HUH
lavish quest
Died 24 secs into the arena
green anchor
don't
green anchor
lavish quest
uwu
copper fox
idle falcon
EYO?
latent fossil
Big fucking deal , people fuck with each other all the time
latent fossil
they didn't fuck with eachother though
Gala I know you’re smart
Does something change
With arms
On 12.0.5?
loud lantern
i ahve to vent, buy how is it possible that root, nova, polymorph all these spells dont overlap and i can get cced for a full 10 minutes
is this supposed to be fair gameplay?
latent fossil
Pvp
idle falcon
well
wheat jay
is this supposed to be fair gameplay?
Yes
Because mages are squishy af
And its not a 1v1 game, your teammates do stuff too
At least theyre supposed to
solemn elm
awesome bro i love this game
me and leland insta kill this dumb fuck dk and then theyre playing with a guardian druid and this priest is literally unkillable which is cool as fuck about to win the game i guess ? even though we won already randomly 165k :)
so cool
awesome as fuck
ebon steeple
Just some rival player trying to cheese some wins out
solemn elm
actual morons playing too
yep
theyre so bad
without fail
that game irritated the shit out of me
lavish quest
They prefectly rotated CCs and defensives
And just were live lording until bear incarn
Where they have some cringe 1 shot thing
And I'm convinced its a bug
solemn elm
literally could not do shit the druid has the most cc ive ever seen
just boosting that lost dk i guess that we 1 shot instantly
ive never seen something more nonsense in my life
probably the dumbest game ive played apart from the same shit of playing vs a tank vs flokko bro
ebon steeple
Lmao haven't met a tank in 3s yet but the prot pally burst drives me nuts in solo shuffle
Like how the hell is it that strong and this man has like 6 cds
lavish quest
If we searched that bear's hard drive, we could just jail
solemn elm
i just want to make those peoples heads explode so badly
they are so unbelievably lost
worldly oriole
ww war slammer comp or bunk?
solemn elm
same thing as dh warr we crush the healers
green wharf
how come every start of the expansion priests are a problem
solemn elm
what was even healing that guy and keeping him alive leland
i wish i knew
that priest
just by himself
just the best peels from the druid ? i mean i would literally half them with banner or just bladestorm it
it actually makes zero sense
just not real
lavish quest
They perfectly peeled when they needed to. And when they had no peels, priest always had angel and or guardian
green wharf
thats just how priests are in bgs
wheat jay
They perfectly peeled when they needed to. And when they had no peels, priest al...
So, they outplayed you guys?
Thats all?
Thsts why youre mad?
idle falcon
Pvp
sorry was in a key
ok so
nothing really pvp related
but for example reap is now AoE only
lavish quest
Thsts why youre mad?
Because they did tank cringe cheese
idle falcon
so it won't deal dmg in pvp
ebon steeple
So, they outplayed you guys?
It's the fact they won the game already but got one shot by a random button
solemn elm
So, they outplayed you guys?
they did not outplay my guy, every other fear i would banner ontop of that we are killing him regardless of that he was going to run out of mana
i got hit for 165k randomly
i didnt get "outplayed" my guy
was also literally 71% dampening
priest can just die
solemn elm
ya
was 14 mins
we won in literally 30 seconds aswell
like there was no outplaying happening to us
promise u that
lavish quest
Well Flep and I finally playin together
wheat jay
we won in literally 30 seconds aswell
So you died to a healer/tank after 14min of smashing him, or did you also die fast?
solemn elm
no
theres no
die fast
i got hit for 165k
i literally died INSTANTLY
like 100-0 dude
no joke
lavish quest
So you died to a healer/tank after 14min of smashing him, or did you also die fa...
We killed UH in first min
wheat jay
165k is 1/3 of hp 
lavish quest
Died to tank heal combo in 15 mins
wheat jay
Died to tank heal combo in 15 mins
How do you die 3v2 after 15min
wheat jay
Or rather how do you not kill in that time
solemn elm
in late dampening
lavish quest
Or rather how do you not kill in that time
Great question
wheat jay
Like, I had plenty of games where our healer died and me and kargish won 2v3
solemn elm
because we are fighting holy priest and guardian druid, if we go the guardian druid he takes 0 damage
wheat jay
i think you think were just like r worded or something
Yes xD
solemn elm
what do you think we were doing the entire time
just
standing there ?
and doing nothing?
be serious bro
wheat jay
Yes
lavish quest
Guardian just peeled until he got 1 shot combo, over and over and over for 15 mins
Was the giga cringe
wheat jay
Aren't you playing arms/ww?
solemn elm
my guy are we killing both of them the entire game, they take zero damage and something is externally healing him, the guardian would sit full fears into songs and everything and it would not matter
wheat jay
I dunno man
wheat jay
It sounds so unreal to me
solemn elm
got hit for 165k
wheat jay
I cant wrap my head around it
solemn elm
its not in the opener either its late game aswell
not in the first 30 seconds where you think you press something
was some random 1 shot combo
pale crow
i went 2-8 this night
solemn elm
promise u that
pale crow
i guess no more blitz this season
wheat jay
Guardian druid apex afaik
green wharf
Or rather how do you not kill in that time
disc priest is stupid
green wharf
its holy priest
it even worse then
wheat jay
Holy is harder to face if its good
solemn elm
was some random male gnome holy priest
thats what im telling you but you refuse to read
solemn elm
he would get to 10%
then angel, then the guardian druid would have his slop to peel every single time
when we would cross already just to be able to do anything at all
wheat jay
Doesnt guardian have like 2ccs?
solemn elm
but we were about to kill him anyways
wheat jay
Or 3
solemn elm
and then, we just get hit for 165k
wheat jay
Ehh whatever
solemn elm
late game
well, regardless he had no mana we were gonna win
and then 165k
awesome
randomly
was atleast full hp 80-90% and i just died instantly bro
its just not real
that shit gotta go bro
wheat jay
I agree
Plenty of shit needs to go
Like sub double cheapshot
Devourer is slowly getting better so i like that
Getting a heal soon
Dmg is solid
lavish quest
We just bad Artji
wheat jay
We just bad Artji
You are
solemn elm
i dont think we are bad
lavish quest
check hard drive behavior
wheat jay
Tanks in arena are always cringe ye
solemn elm
was some random ass male gnome priest who is so lost
hes just playing with a tank
we won the game instantanelously because he is actually lost
but
playing with a tank
icant even type it right
cause im r worded
just never seen that
random 165k
super awesome
wheat jay
If we go by all logic, losing to tank means youre bad 🙁
solemn elm
☹️
fierce elm
Alright this malding goes hard
wheat jay
Math is vicious man sorry
solemn elm
guess im garbage
losing 2v3 too ? im just the worst
how do i not kill the priest bro !!?
fierce elm
lmfao
solemn elm
i mean it wasnt even anybodys fault, we were on the priest all 3 of us 300% uptime orb on him just randomly gets to live at 10% because he has angel form and if we hit the druid he takes zero damage :D, some random slop was healing him or maybe god himself was from 3 people? who knows
ill never know
but i guess i got shit on
leland was putting it in his ass too
cosmic yarrow
what are the chances we get tuning tonight u gusy think?
fierce elm
Seeing non-eu boys tilt does make it sort of funny
wheat jay
what are the chances we get tuning tonight u gusy think?
Low
solemn elm
the entire time
fierce elm
what are the chances we get tuning tonight u gusy think?
They have mentioned that the tuning passes would not interfere with RWF, so there might be a decent chance honestly since RWF is over.
solemn elm
like leland almost solod, ontop of that the druid was trying to clone so many times in our mouth and i kicked him every time
it just makes no sense
solemn elm
its like a male night elf dad who plays the game in battleground blitz
oh man
im gonna go to work
holy fk man
lets play more :D @lavish quest
fierce elm
lmao lost to a career duelist is crazy work
wheat jay
XD
green wharf
you can just blame leland and move on
green wharf
i heard every since he became an anbassador he got washed up
solemn elm
man if you saw it you’d have the exact same reaction
solemn elm
that shit annoyed tf out of me
cause i’m just tryna game with leland and help
and the best 1500 players are holding me hostage
i’m too bad
the best tank na
pinkdonut
be aware
solemn elm
i’ve never drank that but i’m ok now
green wharf
Make yourself some tea
no
take one white monster
or peach
and you gonna be gucci
solemn elm
solemn elm
i wanna try preservatin evo but i also wanna do my warrior
fierce elm
Pres hard
stuck mulch
yeah i was meaning mostly to go in blitz
having a hard time deciding on new alts
i gues warrior would be the simplest
ungabunga
solemn elm
pres really good flag carrier
stuck mulch
pres really good flag carrier
yeah fc and the damn orbs on kotmogu
its so filthy when they have an orb
shaman could be fun aswell
green wharf
i remember in tww
s1 and s2
everytime i saw an enemy press and mw
i knew i was going to lose
in blitz
unless i had one of those as well
stuck mulch
everytime i saw an enemy press and mw
pretty much the same now
stuck mulch
nah but they can fuck away with the flag
stuck mulch
But shamans can burrow with it
yeah that one is weird
let paladins bubble with it
to be fair
fierce elm
I'd reckon doing Pres in blitz isn't as complicated as Arena
your healing is way more forgiven as you fall into a role
stuck mulch
I'd reckon doing Pres in blitz isn't as complicated as Arena
yeah thats wat i saw thinking. since i gotta do alot of self healing on some maps,
stuck mulch
but yeah i think warrior is my safest bet if i wanna do some more pvp
me playing casters never go well
sadly i bricked my fucking hunter
debating to give it a go anyway
without 2 crafted rings
copper fox
Sincerely: someone who tried to pick up pres in arena
Nerd
green wharf
lavish quest
I did pres in arena few seasons of tww. Went fine
stuck mulch
I did pres in arena few seasons of tww. Went fine
baiting me into trying
and ill mald
rancid granite
wheres your warrior
lavish quest
<:Susge:1376815617495269447> baiting me into trying
I mean... to be clear I'd hit 1800 in 2s, in a day or two, then quit
worldly oriole
I did pres in arena few seasons of tww. Went fine
there was only 3 seasons
stuck mulch
wheres your warrior
level 80
worldly oriole
im going hard
lavish quest
there was only 3 seasons
Few typically refers to 3
violet fossil
Few typically refers to 3
Refers to deez
jovial torrent
10h down probs another 5 to go 
dawn sail
https://youtu.be/5TCGIRz0g10?si=cyDjwpiXlkl95Ci6
peak
green anchor
i guess no more blitz this season
i feel you lol
i went 2-11 the first day
but it was placements so i was like whatever
few days later at 2123 i go 1-9
I'm stuck in the 1950 bog now
prime temple
i can no longer play blitz because i am item lvl 272 ( i gotta be 273 apparently)
green anchor
was that some overnight hotfix or what
green anchor
should be solved by buying one more honor gear piece
prime temple
true
solemn elm
idle falcon
green anchor
polisz szitposting
fickle forge
https://tenor.com/view/catjam-cat-disco-catjamming-gif-16989864924126703156
This some shit Eto would post
wheat jay
This some shit Eto would post
I miss my boy
cunning roost
does the bloody token set bonus work in arena?
fickle forge
I miss my boy
He doesn't respond to DMs either
stuck mulch
does the bloody token set bonus work in arena?
no
solemn elm
does the bloody token set bonus work in arena?
no sir only war mode
cunning roost
no sir only war mode
Alright, thanks. Another question the item level 285 crafted gear that is better than both honor and bloody token gear? So it would be worthwhole to farm som mythic dawncrests to get those pieces?
stuck mulch
Alright, thanks. Another question the item level 285 crafted gear that is better...
is it beter?
modest marten
Alright, thanks. Another question the item level 285 crafted gear that is better...
yeah they would be bis before conquest
but seems like a mission
why not just wait
i always go for my crafted rings and neck > my 5 biggest main stat pieces
for conquest prio
plus they have no versatility
solemn elm
Alright, thanks. Another question the item level 285 crafted gear that is better...
if you got the time for it go for it but if you also win at 2100 you get the same crests
wheat jay
He doesn't respond to DMs either
He did to mine once xD
solemn elm
but it’s ok to just play and wait for conq uncap
fierce elm
@lavish quest @wheat jay woke up and immediately did a key
SLOWLY INCHING TOWARDS THE GOALS
stuck mulch
wats the goals
wheat jay
SLOWLY INCHING TOWARDS THE GOALS
Whats the goal?
lavish quest
<@153230384497295361> <@291636646225379328> woke up and immediately did a key
So you're a pver now
jovial torrent
wake me when blizzard implements the lvl 1-5 affix where it marks stuff but as an in game addons where u can make your own pull paths, then il tank
jovial torrent
its so trash on some keys tho where maps overlap
fierce elm
Those are also very linear in pull-path
Terrace is practically, hold W, pull this room, hold W, pull this room
fierce elm
I think its 17s
wheat jay
Im down if you want
fierce elm
Like a mix
wheat jay
Mhmm
fierce elm
This is a 3.5 blood
wheat jay
17s and one 16?
fierce elm
yeah probably
wheat jay
Ye and ive seen them do so much stupid shit in keys lmao
There was that funny moment where they were analyzing their logs from m+
fierce elm
It goes from "Tank carries the key, healer carries the key, tank carries the key, back to DPS carrying the key"
wheat jay
And comparing to some top dogs, in 14 keys
And i just went with pugs and ez timed
Also they play meta meta meta meta comp
wheat jay
HEY BLOOD DK IS META
No
fierce elm
Idk, 14s seem fairly possible right now, 15s maybe
wheat jay
Brm is
fierce elm
Assuming my own skill and others
wheat jay
Idk, 14s seem fairly possible right now, 15s maybe
Brother we could wing 15s im fairly sure lmao
fierce elm
I mean it comes back to 'The DPS will either time this or not and you as a tank have no option here'
and I am feeling that in pug 13s already
You get some major big giant wiener pumpers and everything just seems easy
then you get a random mage doing 150k on 9 targets
and it feels hard as fuck
Anyways keys fun, hoping they uncap SS soon
lavish quest
like actually fun tanking
Yet you were resistant for so long
fierce elm
I was DPS pilled what can I say
But the insta queues and being the driver of the short bus is fun
Plus if guild wants me to raid tank I might as well just tank everywhere
stuck mulch
getting all 15 im happy
wheat jay
Anyways keys fun, hoping they uncap SS soon
Same
fickle forge
Can't wait to have Afro quit on me the instanous second he hits 3.5k
fierce elm
I mean keep up noob
fickle forge
It's pretty amazing how I can say "hey I am gone until Sunday", and then y'all still get offended when I don't play the game for that week
copper fox
I’m the meta
green anchor
I feel like this season the 0.1% m+ title will be 5k rating lol
fierce elm
It's pretty amazing how I can say "hey I am gone until Sunday", and then y'all s...
You didn't play before this either
fickle forge
You didn't play before this either
If I am not sinking 10 hours a day into this game, I am not playing according to you
If I am not investing Eto levels hours into this game, I am not playing according to you
wheat jay
I’m the meta
youre the beta*
stuck mulch
man the scale trinket is so nice in m+
wheat jay
well time to play shuffle cuz my teamates are wack
and our healer quit the game before we even started playing properly
fierce elm
If I am not sinking 10 hours a day into this game, I am not playing according to...
you have played 2 hours per week since midnight release
fickle forge
you have played 2 hours per week since midnight release
It's called having an active life
Try it someday
Maybe go lift more than a paperbook someday
Maybe go lift your spirit up after James crushed it someday
stuck mulch
maybe
wet pike
You can do it!
fierce elm
lmfao
copper fox
Try it someday
This is bad advice
Active life is dangerous
You can be run over by cars etc
So many things can happen
Mauled by a dog
fickle forge
I taught Afro everything he knows, not everything I know
fickle forge
wheat jay
i should not be winning that lmao
HOW
AM
I
WINNING THIS!?
it shouldn't be possible?
5-0
stuck mulch
fun blitz
wheat jay
poor rogue
wheat jay
ye except mine needs 20h ramp-up
O_O
and is stoppable by ALL cc
but ye bro
also that was 4th star cuz i was freecasting
first one does like 80k at best O_O
eradicate 80k non-crit is naughty tho
i dont know what to tell you man
arms 1800+ 3s
green wharf
ye except mine needs 20h ramp-up
doesnt arms need even more prep
green anchor
why are you even talking lol
wheat jay
devourer
wheat jay
doesnt arms need even more prep
not rly
wheat jay
to even 'burst"
so, what im gonna do
green wharf
10 stacks of demo and avatar in 30s?
green wharf
specially the new spec
wheat jay
if i play perfectly well and no cc is used on me, thats like 16% buff
green wharf
some people didnt even unlock that 
wheat jay
that just means more people play arms than DH tbh
you dont need to unlock the spec brother
the quest is to unlock void elf as playable dh race
which i have not yet done xD
either way, devourer is a dmg bot, pure glass cannon
with 3s channels
stuck mulch
isnt it funny how people can follow a plan, then somehow just disregard it once we lead with 500 points?
for literally no reason
fierce elm
Devourer also just does no damage and has zero pressure
fierce elm
isnt it funny how people can follow a plan, then somehow just disregard it once ...
as is the path
wheat jay
Devourer also just does no damage and has zero pressure
mmmmm
it definitely does dmg
fuckton of it
fierce elm
outside of their ramped burst*
green anchor
except 50k dps devour spam
wheat jay
in meta at least
wheat jay
outside of their ramped burst*
ye thats true
fierce elm
While bringing no MS effect and being squishy
wheat jay
ngl
fierce elm
Even CC-wise its mid
wheat jay
i think its best to just cc them on void ray in meta
cuz their meta runs out 3x faster if you stop void ray
stuck mulch
wheat jay
im gonna do you all a favour
and do my normal dmg
in meta
with void ray and without void ray
45s
and 4 collapsing stars gentlemen
or 5
i think it was 5
30 seconds
cc collapsing star to stop most dmg
stuck mulch
give us details
wheat jay
cc void ray to make meta run out faster
wheat jay
what does dmg on dummy matter?
stuck mulch
fun to see the dif
fickle forge
Just let Artji yap
wheat jay
to not listen to "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and demolish got nerfed" bs
fickle forge
Everything isnin a vacuum with Artji
fierce elm
Everyone report your dummy DPS
wheat jay
wooden logs in your ass
fierce elm
I did get a cutie 95
stuck mulch
my tank logs?
yes
fierce elm
on Chimaerus
stuck mulch
if ur a brew
fierce elm
I am blood
wheat jay
that is nice
queen furnace
Is there anything you can do vs a lobby of dev evokers, mage, hpal and hunter? Like anything other than playing waddle simulator? Tried hiding and lining till cds come up but even that doesnt help if I cant really connect
fierce elm
So my logs doesn't matter
fickle forge
Is there anything you can do vs a lobby of dev evokers, mage, hpal and hunter? L...
Do big dam and pray they blow
queen furnace
Its between 1500-1600 mmr, most dont suck there despite the rating unfortunately
fickle forge
I mean
I meeeeeeeeaaaaaaaan
They definitely all suck there
Spear's your best go into those guys
And then do your best to gap hunter
Gap the mage when you have the hunter
queen furnace
I have been 2.1k in tww s3 but rating is so deflated now, inspected them all and most people have 2.4k elite achs, even some have glad achs from SL, DF etc
queen furnace
And then do your best to gap hunter
Yeah hunter seems to be the easiest target to stick on
wheat jay
please teach new guys to not do taht xD
fickle forge
I promise you they aren't flawless at 1500
Do what you can to gap hunter
Don't miss Spear
Then accept your 2-4 if things went decent
wheat jay
Artji dying in spear to demolish in opener
nah
green anchor
and ms crit
wheat jay
brother i had a lobby
some fury warr was opening with spear from the gate
charged me
shoickwwave
and pops cds
green anchor
lol
green anchor
charging after spear
wheat jay
blur
fickle forge
Artji is 1600 mmr btw
fickle forge
Artji is entry level mmr btw
green anchor
they don't know spear has a leap
wheat jay
they don't know spear has a leap
they really dont xD
ok so legit
@fierce elm do we get kargish to heal us in 3s?
since we have no healers?
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> do we get kargish to heal us in 3s?
He isnt playing
wheat jay
or do i ditch you both and lfg?
queen furnace
Then accept your 2-4 if things went decent
Did the arms aura + rend/dw buff compensate the demo/ms nerf? Been playing fury lately after switching from arms
green wharf
Did the arms aura + rend/dw buff compensate the demo/ms nerf? Been playing fury ...
not rly
wheat jay
Did the arms aura + rend/dw buff compensate the demo/ms nerf? Been playing fury ...
overall dps will be the same, but burst is lower
queen furnace
I see, thanks
green anchor
it's also more self healing
queen furnace
So rend will hit for 5k from 3.5k? Lol
green anchor
So rend will hit for 5k from 3.5k? Lol
well yes
and deep wounds do x2 dmg now
which is a lot more self healing with fueled
queen furnace
How much does it do, never managed to keep track. 8k ish?
green anchor
yea
fickle forge
Did the arms aura + rend/dw buff compensate the demo/ms nerf? Been playing fury ...
I lowkey don't know, I have been on a festival this week, no thought dedicated to WoW
Stop rage baiting me with your PvP dummy damage logs @wheat jay
wheat jay
i asked qeustion
be nice enough to answer it
or at least say "i dont know" if you dont know
fickle forge
I know, I just wanted to rage bait you
fickle forge
I haven't checked it yet
wheat jay
fucking hell
queen furnace
Final question, apart from rendlol, any good streamers to watch?
queen furnace
Aight hopefully he has some saved streams
green anchor
Larosw
stuck mulch
when he streams once a year
@elfin surge when yearly stream
wheat jay
fierce elm
Final question, apart from rendlol, any good streamers to watch?
Laros
green anchor
last time i saw him he was spamming m+ on brewmaster
fierce elm
or is he only playing low m+?
M+
wheat jay
rip
idle falcon
fickle forge
Final question, apart from rendlol, any good streamers to watch?
Magnusz
solemn elm
Final question, apart from rendlol, any good streamers to watch?
laros good guy always playing or mud or magnusz
copper fox
All better to watch than rend
green wharf
green anchor
lucid sparrow
Is there any benefit to switching from Fury to Arms for pvp?
stuck mulch
Is there any benefit to switching from Fury to Arms for pvp?
you can try again fresh in blitz
rancid granite
Is there any benefit to switching from Fury to Arms for pvp?
the benefit is being cooler
lucid sparrow
okay so no benefit then? i didnt know my rank in blitz would reset
rancid granite
they are separate ratings, yeah
lucid sparrow
cool did not know thanks!
elfin mortar
How do you guys go about disrupting an unholy DK burst window? I’m getting bodied during the army and genuinely don’t know what to do besides run away screaming around a pillar
idle falcon
the benefit is being cooler
less cool*
wheat jay
can we buff collapsing star guys?
oh btw this is dmg of 1st collapsing xD
very scary...
wheat jay
66k 
tribal wedge
How do you guys go about disrupting an unholy DK burst window? I’m getting bodie...
you can fear his 4 horseman, stun him, use defensive, aoe stun etc
latent fossil
nah, just press devour
Why is Aswog playing DH
green anchor
is that a build up towards such a huge devour
or can he spam that for that much dmg during meta
stuck mulch
if he could then i think there wouldnt be anything other than devourer in pvp
wheat jay
nah, just press devour
Yes.
well
he can
its just that
you have 6% crit chance
and buff to dmg comes from your rotation kinda
jovial torrent
going against dh is such a pain in the ass without WA
i can tell when a rogue or ret are guna burst, dh just sometimes delete 40% of someones hp bar
wheat jay
so, there's 2 builds
if he does the hunt
thats the big burst
happens ONCE
when tehy go into meta
if they do collapsing star, thats their big burst
everything else is constant dmg
jovial torrent
ive been seeing a mix of both but i think its the collapsing star ones that are annoying
wheat jay
yep
jovial torrent
ppl dont try to stop it atm, even in top 100 games
wheat jay
cuz collapsing star doesnt rly do much dmg, at least the first one
unironically stopping void ray does more lol
or kicking devour
kicks absolutely fuck voiddh over
cuz kicks dont slow fury drainage like hard cc does
jovial torrent
ye, its kind of like that for frost mage but atleast mage has poly spam and slows between that
jovial torrent
they just waiting for the inflation, real men grind now
wheat jay
real
need skill
not to be rusty
it also 100% works with warrior
as a comp
its like more dmg less utiliy thunder
jovial torrent
its so weird but i feel like 3's is actually burstier than solo
jovial torrent
its really awkward cus all priest has is pain sup and ppl just switch target
i assume which is why everyone in awc and regular 3's is playing holy atm
for big heals
wheat jay
100% the case
stuck mulch
im the draw master
elfin mortar
you can fear his 4 horseman, stun him, use defensive, aoe stun etc
Only thing I didn’t do is fear the horseman
wheat jay
lmao
fickle forge
Can't believe the main man defeated Bussyslapper
wheat jay
shuffle is so fun when your spec got 50 buffs
and is a tier not negative d tier
please god
let me win 2 more rounds
fickle forge
No
wheat jay
nope
warrior sucks
ass
outranged healer
typical behaviour
man 99% of warrs are dogshit...
i swear to god is it that hard to play warr?
AND WHY DO THEY SPEAR THEN CHARGE!?
cosmic talon
latent fossil
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6Hbsqz7zqH4
Yep, pretty much.
"Omg why are you crying, you got a spear that keeps casters in place"
how about shut up bitch
wheat jay
3-3 🙁
fickle forge
Artji about to drop 200 mmr
narrow compass
AND WHY DO THEY SPEAR THEN CHARGE!?
Why do so many charge then stormbolt? As if shockwave doesn’t exist
fickle forge
There are a few cases where it's better to do that tbh
elfin mortar
man 99% of warrs are dogshit...
Combined with our class is also dogshit
elfin mortar
This man is trying to keep us from the buffs we deserve
Or the additional nerfs 3/4 other specs really deserve
wheat jay
nerfs to dps should be ww and sub
elfin mortar
Frost mage
Zero reason a ray of frost should hit that hard
When they can also blink 500 times and root/perma slow
fickle forge
Warrior kinda slaps rn
elfin mortar
Idk man I know I’m bad but my shuffles are all WW, frost mage, sub, unholy, and ret all combined through and it’s fucking crazy what they can do
Unholy ain’t bad by itself unless their combined window is with one of the other mentioned specs then I just get railed through every defensive in the book including a disarm on WW or Sub rogue
wheat jay
the second those 3 get small nerf, warrior is above them
tho i would 100% like a sub rogue nerf
like 20% dmg nerf
and no more double cheap
bury that dog ass class...
wheat jay
Unholy ain’t bad by itself unless their combined window is with one of the other...
now
did you just write
disarm
on a ww
brother
are
you
serious
right
now
?
?
?
?
?
wheat jay
i
i dont know what to say
brother
what
are
you
disarming
MAN'S PUNCHING YOU
THIS IS YOUR POV
WHAT WOULD REMOVING A WEAPON FROM THIS GUY DO!?
wheat jay
brother
@fickle forge i play range now so i dont know, but doesnt fof still parry everything?
including MELEE DISARM!?
fickle forge
It does
And it still gets stopped by disarm
But FoF heals enemies atm
No reason to rock Disarm into WW when you can just roll Warbanner or Safeguard
elfin mortar
Wait hold up
elfin mortar
You can disarm before that channel it for the flurry strikes
It’s when they pop that stupid ass CD
fickle forge
The main dam is RSK though
elfin mortar
Yeah Sun and wind hurt
The fist shit with flurry strikes doesn’t feel very nice either though
fickle forge
Again though, I'd rock something else
elfin mortar
I’m going to after you told me I was better off rocking one of the other 2 and trying that out against them
quartz agate
hi so im learning arms. i have a question if im running thunderclap as arms collosal, i no longer need to keybind rend and i dont need to keybind hamstring correct?
neat timber
I thought you'd want to still have hamstring stand alone but rend is always going to be there now basically.
Unless I'm mistaken because I am very new.
fierce elm
Still hit hamstring, no need to hit rend with TC
green anchor
just macro hamstring with charge
quartz agate
yea i was asking bc thudnerclap and the crackling thunder talent reduce movement speed by 60% whille hamstring is 50%
neat timber
but you have to wait for the thunderclap to proc, hamstring is on demand
green anchor
clap is 40%
fierce elm
TC with crackling thunder is 40%
fierce elm
but you have to wait for the thunderclap to proc, hamstring is on demand
thats Fury
not arms
Fury doesn't have to wait either
neat timber
I play prot, my bad
neat timber
I've been PvPing for four days.
fierce elm
It gets confusing when three specs share somehing similar
quartz agate
me 24 hours lol its so much fun
prefering arms over fury for some odd reason
feels stronger
fierce elm
But yes, try to keep hamstring up because that 10% can matter
quartz agate
any addons you guys recommend to see the debuff overtheir heads?
fierce elm
I just use betterblizzframes and betterblizzplates
Can show everything you need to see
quartz agate
ok
neat timber
Which leads me to ask this: How the hell do I deal with the chain CCing? Two scenarios - I'm sitting on flag doing my prot warrior business and I'm getting cycled through CC's/put to sleep until attackers can finally take the flag. Is this an issue of me not having a partner with me?
quartz agate
pretty much specially if you don thave trinket available
berserker roar available as prot?
the pvp talent
neat timber
Yeah, like I'll burn through my trinkets and then they'll just keep CCing until I'm out of options
Yeah, I tried it but often it's just not enough of a reduction
I thought about swapping to the ravager talent where I can throw the ravager
So if I'm down on CD's/Trinket I can throw that at the flag
so there's some interupt on them while I'm CC'd but I don't know if that's dumb or not