@fierce elm
#pvp
urban skiff
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864>
2-4
last umbra
well i got some spare so may aswell so just offpieces like rings etc?
fickle forge
Demo nerfs 
last umbra
i forgot to turn on my music so we died
Eurobeat intial D for maximum dmg
last umbra
when crafting does rank matter ( gold blue etc) cuz it just scales anyway right
warped warren
Demo nerfs <:sadge:820202363359854633> <:sadge:820202363359854633>
fuck demo!!!!
fickle forge
fuck demo!!!!
My 150k MS
urban skiff
mage 8x mglad
jovial torrent
casual 1400 game btw
fickle forge
Have you tried winning instead?
fierce elm
well i got some spare so may aswell so just offpieces like rings etc?
Yeah pretty much, can go larger piece too
just make sure its 285
urban skiff
another casual 3s game at 1500 mmr
last umbra
just make sure its 285
like this ?
last umbra
ahh sorry i just called it spark
fierce elm
It is very confusing and convoluted
last umbra
oh
fierce elm
We just buy the gear now
fierce elm
You should have spent 9
last umbra
ye
green wharf
fuck demo!!!!
nooo
last umbra
oh is it just a visual bug that the quest shows radiance as a reward still then
green wharf
warlock is the only manly caster
green wharf
fierce elm
so what do u do with spare heralds
yeah another small piece
last umbra
same amount of letters too
fierce elm
Make sure to get an embellishment
last umbra
yee got 2 already on the other bits
fierce elm
then its w.e small piece
fierce elm
but these heralds dont need to be rank 5 right ?
not for PvP ilvl
urban skiff
how is 3s this rough on a saturday
lavish quest
fucking leland
Does this guy blame me for everything?
green wharf
Does this guy blame me for everything?
no, sometimes i blame afro and artji
urban skiff
finally we're back
last game we won it was because they weren't R1s but just 3x mglad
last umbra
last dumb question, worth getting the WM 4 set with bloodytokens over honor pieces esp if i do warmode content?
or does it not stack with trinket set
fierce elm
last dumb question, worth getting the WM 4 set with bloodytokens over honor piec...
If doing warmode, yes
fierce elm
It should
last umbra
pre good ty afro 🙂
urban skiff
lavish quest
Nerd going to school n shit
urban skiff
morning zercher
mornings
urban skiff
i have a midterm today
good luck, brother
lavish quest
Same thing bruv
latent fossil
Qieotpvmckañfpt
idle falcon
Same thing bruv
Autofill knows your name
steady python
how is 3s this rough on a saturday
Arms or Fury?
urban skiff
SMF THANE
latent fossil
I just read the notes
Isn’t this like a nerf?
No big MS after shitty demolish is a huge downgrade
latent fossil
But we might be unkillable now
Why
lavish quest
Bleed heals
urban skiff
just looked over notes, I think arms got buffed, not nerfed
fickle forge
just looked over notes, I think arms got buffed, not nerfed
Demo burst was all we had really
Now we're plate ferals again
urban skiff
Demo burst was all we had really
the burst is still there
it just happens less often
fickle forge
What
urban skiff
crit chance reduced from 100% to 15% extra
latent fossil
FvB was kinda big before
Why did they buff ignore pain last week
urban skiff
The 15% damage from demolish will be there in bleed ticks, your dam just looks lower
fickle forge
Why did they buff ignore pain last week
Ye we all asking that
fickle forge
The 15% damage from demolish will be there in bleed ticks, your dam just looks l...
You're really underestimating how much burst matters
If pressure was all that mattered, devavoker would be unbeatable
urban skiff
You're really underestimating how much burst matters
if it happens during the cast of demolish then it's the same as if demolish did it
whether it's a bleed tick or the 2nd hit or whatever
fickle forge
if it happens during the cast of demolish then it's the same as if demolish did ...
Okay, how's it gonna happen during Demo cast?
fickle forge
And you think 1 tick of bleed will make up for demo nerf and -85% crit on MS?
urban skiff
I can't wait to not hit anything for 3 minutes
urban skiff
And you think 1 tick of bleed will make up for demo nerf and -85% crit on MS?
ms will still crit 1/5 of the time
the burst events will happen less often but be as severe as before
arms got buffed, just watch
latent fossil
Meh
onyx marlin
just looked over notes, I think arms got buffed, not nerfed
after seeing you for years in this discord, im now 100% sure youre just ragebaiting all the time xD
wheat jay
overall dps will probably be the same, but burst will be MUCH lower
urban skiff
overall dps will probably be the same, but burst will be MUCH lower
burst will be the same, just happen less often
It only takes one burst event to score a kill
fickle forge
ms will still crit 1/5 of the time
You that's an insane nerf right?
onyx marlin
wheat jay
zercher
fickle forge
Imagine if Combustion only activated 1/5 of the time
urban skiff
take a look inside
inside what?
wheat jay
one would have to be blind or stupid to thing that burst will be the same
urban skiff
Arms buffed, you can fight me if you want to be wrong
wheat jay
burst for arms will be MUCH lower
urban skiff
more damage
wheat jay
less demolish damage
urban skiff
15% less on something you've complained about hitting like a wet noodle for years now
fickle forge
What
wheat jay
?
wheat jay
brother
people have been consistently sending oneshots with demolish
since tww s1
xD
so, where is the buff
sweet solstice
arcane mastery wep enchant or acuity for fury?
wheat jay
3% to everything but 15% to their burst, and removed guaranteed crit chance on ms
green wharf
Imagine if Combustion only activated 1/5 of the time
this nerf was actually insane
might as well remove the ability/interaction
and replace with something else
wheat jay
so, to reiterate, lets say your enh got its burst nerfed by 15%, but your consistent dmg outside of doomwinds got a 3% buff
oh and 15% buff to lava shock damage
now, what would that do
push enh out of s tier
green wharf
this with sudden death not procing reap abolustely killed the joy of playing arms
wheat jay
and into d tier
fickle forge
this with sudden death not procing reap abolustely killed the joy of playing arm...
This isn't live yet right?
green wharf
This isn't live yet right?
not yet but will be
wheat jay
btw devourer survivability buffs 😄
urban skiff
I want a quote
I was searching but I don't like the way the search bar takes up the entire chat window
urban skiff
wheat jay
demolish goated
sweet solstice
arcane mastery wep enchant or acuity for fury?
urban skiff
so demolish nerfed by 12% with +3% to ms, op, execute, +18.5% to rend and + 106% deep wounds damage
and random oneshot event occurence rate reduced by 80%
urban skiff
I feel like people ask that every single time there's any change at all
slayer just really the popular spec
wheat jay
so demolish nerfed by 12% with +3% to ms, op, execute, +18.5% to rend and + 106%...
brother, 3% overall buff is fuckall
for any spec
its not much
its not gamebraeking
at any point
15% nerf to your burst, and another nerf to ms after said burst
that is big
is taht your first time playing pvp?
burst > consistent dmg
north thicket
MS crit nerf is too much, really
wheat jay
consistent dmg is good for affli/assa or affli/sp
north thicket
col arms will be looking like melee affli after these rounds
when was this playstyle from? bfa s4 or whatnot
fierce elm
Pretty much
fierce elm
I feel like people ask that every single time there's any change at all
because that is how people work
Less thinking more asking
urban skiff
15% nerf to your burst, and another nerf to ms after said burst
it's not a 15% nerf to your burst, it's 12% nerf to one component of your burst
so use burst when they're 8% lower HP and see same results
glad so close I can taste it
wheat jay
it's not a 15% nerf to your burst, it's 12% nerf to one component of your burst
and that is a huge burst
north thicket
so use burst when they're 8% lower HP and see same results
that's like Pete's level of logic
wheat jay
imagine 12% to doomwinds damage
urban skiff
imagine 12% to doomwinds damage
Imagine all the damage I won't be doing because I eat a disarm between using doom winds and any global?
geee
urban skiff
Not broken enough that I can do anything with it
wheat jay
???
urban skiff
Which feels like it should be concerning
urban skiff
I've been sending 3s all day today and it was a shit show
urban skiff
I mean not really a shit show (@jovial torrent) but like, if this is what S tier feels like then people are downright hysterical when they grade specs S tier
wheat jay
in solo its also good
urban skiff
in solo its also good
69 rounds to hit mid CR
urban skiff
completely steamrolled in 3s
wheat jay
on 2 chars
wheat jay
completely steamrolled in 3s
urban skiff
You can't say the spec is broken if it's only broken in the hands of the best players
there's like 8 of us total and the 7 others are good
north thicket
prot warr is broken because of Kennie
fickle forge
You can't say the spec is broken if it's only broken in the hands of the best pl...
I wouldn't say best players man
This is WoW PvP
fierce elm
I mean not really a shit show (<@491780739524984852>) but like, if this is what ...
it is probably closer to A-tier
fickle forge
You generally need to be nearing the skill ceiling before you pick up results
urban skiff
whee
fierce elm
due to Sub being S-tier and above all else
worldly oriole
got some game sin on unholy
fierce elm
(Tier lists also dont matter)
worldly oriole
enhance was D tier, best comp was like B tier last season right?
big dam got r1 on it lol
last umbra
whats conq gear buyingprio ? weps>trinkets ?
fierce elm
Enh is closer to A yeah
#pvp is not ready for the conversation that there are 3 outstanding specs
and the rest are pooled together
fierce elm
whats conq gear buyingprio ? weps>trinkets ?
dont buy weapon
You get a free one at 2.5k conquest
fickle forge
and the rest are pooled together
Pretty much
It's a DK, warr, enh, surv world below the realm of the gods
urban skiff
<#897055819475091456> is not ready for the conversation that there are 3 outstan...
that's how it always is
blizzard are fine with slight outliers
then certain players go and play those outliers and make them look amazing
rest of the community uses that to form their opinion and then comes the black/white thinking people who are also incredibly loud
either something is garbage or it's the best thing ever
I will never not challenge people
why do i only get to play against AWC wannabes and people who can't put up hots? No inbetween
wheat jay
where is war
Sucks in 2s
wheat jay
You didn't have to say the 2s part
Warr overall is quite good
sand sundial
damage is good if you can catch em
urban skiff
Sub cuz its sub
I just wish sub didn't have disarm
wheat jay
If sub got nerfed in cc or survivability it'd be bad
urban skiff
feels silly they can shut down every go
wheat jay
And other specs would have a right to exist
urban skiff
stun is part of their shit, if I just had to endure stuns before I could go it would be fine
urban skiff
but they're holding gouge and disarm just for my burst
warped warren
Ww cuz dmg
ww nerfed to the ground....
urban skiff
Imagine if I had cc to spare to hold for that
make hex unkickable
make msw affect hex cast time
fierce elm
rest of the community uses that to form their opinion and then comes the black/w...
basically yes
The ”competitive” nature of the game lends itself to it
thus anyone thinks they are ”competitive”
when in reality it doesnt matter at all
fierce elm
i gfot two sorery didnt mean wep
the rest of the prio is in the pins iirc
junior peak
Anyone know which nameplates this is?
lavish quest
Autofill knows your name
Because I'm him
fierce elm
The idea of a spec being mediocre meaning its bad is always funny to encounter
warped warren
My 150k MS <:sadge:820202363359854633>
ye i hate that part...
warped warren
warlock is the only manly caster
demolish (but also demo lock)
fierce elm
Anyone know which nameplates this is?
Ask him if possible
It could be a specific profile
fierce elm
lmfao
junior peak
Just saw it on a skillcapped video
green wharf
they will ask like 3 month sub to answer that
fierce elm
They are pretty helpful
Bigmoran as much as he is a meme has provided some service to the PvP community as a whole
urban skiff
Bigmoran as much as he is a meme has provided some service to the PvP community ...
I got him on speed dial
fierce elm
yeah no shit lmao
urban skiff
fuck my rating sucks
fierce elm
fuck my rating sucks
jesus man
copper fox
what website was that ^
Seramate
slow brook
you guys seen this? xd
green wharf
guess
slow brook
so.. colossus dead after patch i guess?
junior peak
fuck my rating sucks
dw brother, I'm not that much better, but at least you played more seasons than I have
sweet solstice
dw brother, I'm not that much better, but at least you played more seasons than ...
yo, what enchants are u useing for weps?
junior peak
Dunno
Whichever ones they say on Murlok, literally just copied the top gnomes build 🤣
sweet solstice
whats a murlok
junior peak
Murlok.io -> cool website which shows top players and their builds
But then realised you shouldn’t always copy cause it might have the data based on them switching to Arms, which messed me up cause I started putting haste > mastery
sweet solstice
so in pve you use arcane mastery
junior peak
#1 loser 🤣
sweet solstice
cant come up with a reason why this shouldent be the case in pvp aswell if its a damage increase in pve
unless there is some weird scaleing i dont understand for mainstat vs mastery
magic wing
slow brook
not that i can see
fierce elm
so.. colossus dead after patch i guess?
yes entire spec dead reroll
fierce elm
JESUS
fierce elm
unless there is some weird scaleing i dont understand for mainstat vs mastery
Check out murlok.io
Enchants are fairly accurate there
slow brook
Back to slayer then ig
fierce elm
Probably not
slow brook
is dooddoo right now or what?
lavish quest
Yup
Prob just instead of sending demo, we're just gonna sit on them and do bleed dam
zzzz
fierce elm
is dooddoo right now or what?
yes
fierce elm
lmfao
slow brook
bro they are so not in touch with their game touching warr before sub and frost etc
ah fk it
I just leveled a new warr after biggest lose streak and see this post #malding
fierce elm
Are you at the rating where you are gatekept by your spec?
Not rate-shaming here, merely asking
slow brook
I mean not really, but still doesnt feel good to go vs the "good" specs
and just started to get comfy and really like colossus since ive always been slayer
fierce elm
It rarely does, but every season has their top specs
slow brook
yeah you are right
fierce elm
Either chase the high of rerolling to the top spec constantly or be content with what you have
lavish quest
Are you at the rating where you are gatekept by your spec?
1600? Yes
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681>
fierce elm
true
cunning roost
So the buffs to deep wounds and rend will probably also be a pretty sigificant increase to our healing through fueled by violence right?
happy easter btw
copper fox
I want a 100% loss rate char
green wharf
So the buffs to deep wounds and rend will probably also be a pretty sigificant i...
in theory it should
copper fox
I feel like I’ll occasionally just win on accident tho
green wharf
so they will prob nerf in like 40%
copper fox
Let’s test that theory
cunning roost
That´s very interesting because arms is already healing for more than fury in 3´s and shuffle. so now arms is the more durable and self sustainable spec 😄
fierce elm
yeah for sure, still doesn't justify this shitty balance imo
”shitty” balance is a overstatement
copper fox
That´s very interesting because arms is already healing for more than fury in 3´...
What makes arms heal more
slow brook
”shitty” balance is a overstatement
You think its good to nerf a #15 spec before top #3? idk bro
idk dont wanna argue, that is just my opinion
fierce elm
You think its good to nerf a #15 spec before top #3? idk bro
They both caught nerfs
Placing Arms at #15 is CRAZY
slow brook
it is on murlok?
sweet solstice
Enchants are fairly accurate there
its telling me to use haste>mastery im prty sure they dont have the right enchants aswell
fierce elm
Plus one got a direct nerf whilst the other one got compensation to redirect damage
slow brook
nah it changes since i watched its number 8
fierce elm
it is on murlok?
8 in SS, 5th in 3s, 10th in blitz, 8th in 2s
fierce elm
its telling me to use haste>mastery im prty sure they dont have the right enchan...
thats kinda funny
@copper fox what enchants on fury weapon
cunning roost
I believe it´s mostly that talent in aoe it heals for quite a lot already before the indirect buffs
fierce elm
But yes, one caught a compensation buff to other damage, one didnt
The Sub nerf is like 11% or something in total
To what is their main damage output
copper fox
<@1134571107257684080> what enchants on fury weapon
Ren dorei
copper fox
Pad healing < fury healing
slow brook
yeah sure but you dont think colossus is dead after this? make them bleed a little bit more but our burst is completely gutted no?
fierce elm
yeah sure but you dont think colossus is dead after this? make them bleed a litt...
I dont no
Saying something is dead is wildly overestimating
slow brook
okayokay
I am fairly new to colossus and really been enjoying it so that nerf just looke huge
patent forum
We played colossus for a bit in tww without ever pressing demolish so should be fine
rancid granite
Saying something is dead is wildly overestimating
dooming on small nerfs is the meta
cunning roost
Pad healing < fury healing
Right, comparing arms colossus to fury thane overall which one is the tankiest you think?
rancid granite
we has a 3% dmg nerf so it's f tier now for example
rancid granite
tww we played without the auto crit til the tier set but it's still not bad, 25-30% chance to crit still ain't bad
on the ms
cunning roost
Arms is generally tankier <@196640524369657856>
Yeah it kinda feels like that, thanks
patent forum
It’s a 5% flat dam reduc so it should lol
cunning roost
doesnt fury also have a damage reduction when enraged?
patent forum
Only after thunder blast for 8 seconds and it’s only physical dmg @cunning roost
Colossus is all dam
cunning roost
I was thinking about warpaint talent
tribal wedge
you got damage reduction while enrage too
cunning roost
in the fury tree
patent forum
Oh yeah
cunning roost
but maybe col arms is tankier anyway
patent forum
You won’t be enraged when you’re getting kited though
cunning roost
true
patent forum
Proc based dam reduc vs static
cunning roost
plus the vereran vitality / ignore pain
tribal wedge
but in a rogue meta, being able to wall while stun is huge
green wharf
Worst wall in the game but ok
imo, better than die by the sword
cunning roost
I think given how weak it is compared to other defensives it should be 1 minute cd
patent forum
Dbts kinda owns in a melee cleave meta tho
copper fox
Arms is easier to play against
green anchor
as thane you have a nearly perma 20% wall
copper fox
Therefore, fury is harder to kill
green wharf
Dbts kinda owns in a melee cleave meta tho
you get stunned it doesnt work
you get attack from the behind it doesnt work
ranged attacks it doesnt work
green anchor
from the hero talent and warpaint
green wharf
cant parry magic shit either
copper fox
Fury has you on the back foot much more than arms does so generally you have people playing less aggressive
green wharf
so it only vallid for the reduced damage and isnt that great
copper fox
You can’t look at it on a talent for talent basis
That’s not exactly how this game works
Damage reduction talents are irrelevant if your class is less aggressive and taking a higher percentage of damage anyway
And fury is far more aggressive than arms
gleaming robin
Does Wrecking Throw shatter a Paladin's immune bubble? or at the very least the absorb bubble they have?
gleaming robin
the 3 min CD one right? So itll actually bust the immunity bubble they have?
green wharf
ye
gleaming robin
I played a ret for a while and dont ever remember getting hit by that so i'm curious why more warriors dont use it??
green wharf
I played a ret for a while and dont ever remember getting hit by that so i'm cur...
cause its a casting spell
it can be interupted easily
gleaming robin
I gotcha. So do you feel it's not worth using? (for BGs**)
green wharf
I gotcha. So do you feel it's not worth using? (for BGs**)
depends, personally i wouldnt use in bgs
but depending on how many rets/mages are there
could be useful
gleaming robin
Thank ya!
copper fox
Good warriors use it
narrow compass
Yeah but it does need either a reduced cast time OR we should be able to move while casting it
green wharf
moving would fix it
lavish quest
This is why I don't use it
narrow compass
Paladin: ooops need to bubble
Warrior: ha ha! Im breaking that…stand still!
Paladin: let’s go horsey! We’re outta here!
wheat jay
besides trying not to cry
try harder
wheat jay
and ye, lock you legi demolish
rancid granite
lock you just kill him
no diff in their specs right
rancid granite
i swear my team never wants to go locks
wheat jay
artji getting 100% increased armor and magic resist
IM NOT EVEN GONNA PLAY THAT ARMOR
its that or reverse magic
XD
and what does it help into, warrior only?
cuz its the last physical dmg class in the game?
warped warren
wheat jay
but its ifne
warped warren
get got
lucid walrus
Paladin: ooops need to bubble
Warrior: ha ha! Im breaking that…stand still!
Pala...
bubble —> searing glare true combo
warped warren
bubble —> searing glare true combo
gigachad combo
warped warren
oh yea
warped warren
(i havent read my talents )
wheat jay
and small nerf to burst
cunning roost
can dbts be disarmed?
warped warren
i got 8% dmg buff
ye they are stupid noobs at blizzard hq
wheat jay
that you
warped warren
wtyf is glory of dawn
cunning roost
just realized this, damm
fierce elm
wtyf is glory of dawn
this is why you are 1400
fierce elm
WHERE
lucid walrus
or melee, but from the back
or stunned iirc
fierce elm
Okay fomo chase relax
warped warren
AHAHHA
warped warren
says the unholy
fierce elm
Boutta step into SS on Sunday
wheat jay
i dunno
warped warren
otp
fierce elm
or was
Was
It got quickly nerfed
now its extremely average
it got nerfed before season launched*
wheat jay
1800+ shuffle
warped warren
Boutta step into SS on Sunday
make kargish lvl his stupid hpal
fierce elm
Yeah so extremely average
wheat jay
meanwhile my specs 🙁
fierce elm
make kargish lvl his stupid hpal
Kargish doesnt play the game
fierce elm
So lets pug a healer lmfao
warped warren
while its hot
fierce elm
And play the walking dead tomorrow/monday
warped warren
So lets pug a healer lmfao
you find someone, tell them the goat of ww is on the team
after whaazz
fierce elm
Im busy bro
warped warren
...
lavish quest
I think blizz wants us playing sub
fierce elm
Eto heals kek
fierce elm
Boutta play Devourer/dh when I can play a good comp
wheat jay
i 15x all your damage
not mine, im the dmg bot
warped warren
fierce elm
Pissing rn before going home so I get paid for this
lavish quest
3% overall nerf, plus another 5% during your burst
warped warren
green wharf
wtf do you do against evokers
hit someone else
green wharf
its not even live
wise cargo
Probably not enough but with a 100% deep wounds buff any argument or numbers showing crit vs mastery in value now?
ebon steeple
It's mastery
Crit for warr hasn't been good in a long time
And doubt that will change
wise cargo
True but that’s because of the pvp reduction, it probably doesn’t surpass mastery still but the deep wounds buff is interesting
sweet solstice
how much should i care for slaughterhouse? right now i dont care at all
lavish quest
Mastery would work on deep wounds too tho
warped warren
lavish quest
So
sweet solstice
im perma swaping
warped warren
dusky parrot
Now wait a minute..
fierce elm
how much should i care for slaughterhouse? right now i dont care at all
a lot
fierce elm
You can
spice hornet
This game is horrible now
stuck mulch
hidden tech
jovial torrent
finally got hit with the MC bug where u cant cast
dull blaze
new arms changes will pull mastery ahead of haste? or do we still go haste >= mastery?
sharp meteor
new arms changes will pull mastery ahead of haste? or do we still go haste >= ma...
why would u think that
if anythin mastery prob worse cos not gonna highroll people as much anymore
boreal veldt
new arms changes will pull mastery ahead of haste? or do we still go haste >= ma...
haste has always been the go to after vers for arms, a tale as old as time
copper fox
new arms changes will pull mastery ahead of haste? or do we still go haste >= ma...
Mastery worse
boreal veldt
only i'm allowed to make funny stat builds
sharp meteor
haste has always been the go to after vers for arms, a tale as old as time
cept all of last expac
sharp meteor
arms beans but making all ur buttons do less dmg lil grief
as good as 30% haste feel
sharp meteor
<:keks:936231610850897992>
manic grail
stuck mulch
im gonna be an asshole time to level rogue
boreal veldt
honestly i only like about 15-16% haste
sharp meteor
crit was a while ago
boreal veldt
i cant meme crit as well as i could in tww cause arms no longer has access to reck
stuck mulch
how good are the buffs coming btw?
gonna get my warrior up aswell due to timewalking
boreal veldt
how good are the buffs coming btw?
you like BLEED?
sharp meteor
i love pad dmg
stuck mulch
you like BLEED?
if it does dmg 
boreal veldt
manic grail
"Oh, the Warriors don't like Bleed builds? Fuck 'em!"
sweet solstice
are u ment to trinket rogue mage opener? i feel like if i do i just die to smokebomb later
stuck mulch
are u ment to trinket rogue mage opener? i feel like if i do i just die to smoke...
is your healer good?
pre def stance
manic grail
They're gonna run out of CC sooner or later, right? 
sweet solstice
im just talking about the meta way to deal with it
boreal veldt
are u ment to trinket rogue mage opener? i feel like if i do i just die to smoke...
depends on healer in cc or not
stuck mulch
well u dead then
boreal veldt
ofc he is in cc
i'd say trink opener and let heals save theirs
new cc rules are rough
i'm still figuring out the best times myself honestly
solemn elm
are u ment to trinket rogue mage opener? i feel like if i do i just die to smoke...
if it’s bust and blades just trink double fear, disarm or stun rogues trinket, or mages trinket with bolt and sit d stance for the opener
before the game starts
you need to get really good banners aswell play next to your homie
if you banner your stun when they drop smoke bomb you are perfectly fine and can just walk out
solemn elm
can still just use berserker shout and reduce your healers cc
thats what banner is lol
you just try to zerker shout before your healer gets cc’d if not yourself aswell and you won’t be fully stunned
solemn elm
Paladin: ooops need to bubble
Warrior: ha ha! Im breaking that…stand still!
Pala...
just need to keep it aimed at them regardless of them going away i’ve been playing this talent permanently vs mage pally, since i’ve been really young and ive never heard in my life of people hating shattering throw more than this it’s been the same since it came out
solemn elm
what do you do vs lock and mage
this was an hour ago but i’ll still give advice cus im bored go lock a lot, spam bolt fear mage on cd and you can use your shockwave to stun your kt instead or if your friend plugs in his hands he can stun for you too, the game is gonna last a lil minute but in the end you should be able to destroy lock(can play demolition if you’d like to aswell)but storm of destruction is needed to be able to even move id assume they’re playing with mw or hpala if they got hpala play shatter fasho but wrecking throw op otherwise
green wharf
thats definetly not a bear
boreal veldt
but it says bear
solemn elm
always works
exotic forge
That's a kapara
green wharf
brother what is this game
buble loby to assert dominance
already did that
still won cause pala is busted 
warped warren
buble loby to assert dominance
what are you saying
urban skiff
@jovial torrent @fierce elm there may be an explanation for the demographic shift in enemies in arenas today. There was just a massive ban wave that hit boosters in eu and na, 6 months to perm ban.
sweet solstice
30 minute q to have 1 healer 400 raiting and go 0/6 and get 0 rating : )
green wharf
what are you saying
use bubble before the round starts
that way you assert dominance over the others
warped warren
use bubble before the round starts
i dont have a bubble as a monk
!
hit the ppal for a 236k rwk
lavish quest
This is why it's being nerfed again
chilly magnet
solemn elm
ww is good
warped warren
i hate mages in shuffle
they are all so terrible
randomly blinking into melee just to die
when on my team
that is
worldly oriole
SHUFFLE is a low T gamemode
narrow compass
just need to keep it aimed at them regardless of them going away i’ve been playi...
Not hating on it, and yeah it’s the same but would be nice to have
dusky parrot
Not hating on it, and yeah it’s the same but would be nice to have
I hate shatter I personally sigh in disappointment of having to take it over something else purely because of a shit-eating paladin or mage
latent fossil
I hate myself
copper fox
I hate myself
Rip
solemn elm
I hate myself
i love u :)
latent fossil
i love u :)
Thank you
worldly oriole
I DONT even know anymore fam
spice hornet
@worldly oriole you work this weekend?
jovial torrent
this games so buggy lol, i MC rogue as he dances it dc's me
low cobalt
can you un-socket gems and re-use gems or no
solemn elm
nah only replace with another and then the one you replaced goes into like i don’t know outer space
it just dissapears
warped warren
does disarming bm hunters do anything btw ?
urban skiff
@wheat jay if I really hate myself, what healer do i queue with in 2s as devourer?
And I figure voidscarred is best for 2s?
wheat jay
depends xD
fierce elm
does disarming bm hunters do anything btw ?
no
warped warren
warped warren
<@291636646225379328> if I really hate myself, what healer do i queue with in 2s...
why do you and artji pick the absolute worst specs in the game to try and make work?
solemn elm
does disarming bm hunters do anything btw ?
no
stuck mulch
i got called lowelo by some random
copper fox
do i just end it ?
Possibly
solemn elm
wow
solemn elm
they think mage is fine too untouched :]
hasty pond
so what do we play in arena as arms ? haste mastery or crit mastery ?
exotic forge
does disarming bm hunters do anything btw ?
The hunter isn't the one doing damage
novel crater
so what do we play in arena as arms ? haste mastery or crit mastery ?
Haste 15>Mastery, never crit
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864>
I just did
warped warren
afro go queue
fierce elm
Im on the couch rn
warped warren
i need rating
exotic forge
in his lane
exotic forge
more the cant barbed shot part or smth
The hunter ain't the one doing the damage
fierce elm
You probably have a better talent than disarm
stuck mulch
pilav stole a trinket from me in a pug in undermine
idle vortex
this is for you guys first time ever hitting 1,8k in rbg
warped warren
stuck mulch
ive had the worst people really
onyx marlin
im in mega mmr hell now
ive seen bots playing better than most players i get with rn in blitz
onyx marlin
ppl totally silent, fights middle of the map for no reason, some with half pve gear, no pvp trinket, healers doing 5m while others are doing 20, stuff like that
its funny
stuck mulch
yeah eye of the storm is the worst in low mmr
legit u can go and win the game yourself
by taking the undefended towers
stuck mulch
time to go mw
stuck mulch
mop remix?
worldly oriole
i left my unholy shuffle this morning lol
warped warren
kotmogu 
spice hornet
@worldly oriole what’s the move this summer
warped warren
i thought you would say get legend or smth
stuck mulch
ggs i lost rating
now im done with the paladin
stopping at 2606
no need to try more if im gonna lose rating
rancid granite
no need to try more if im gonna lose rating
this hurts my soul from how wimpy it sounds
can I get you some midol and Icecream
rancid granite
vernal marsh
ignore pain says it increases with each subsequent use what does this mean
warped warren
vernal marsh
so if I keep on pressing it on cd in combat it will increase
I tried it on dummies and it stayed at 41k absorb shield
stuck mulch
this hurts my soul from how wimpy it sounds
why would i keep trying when i already got anything 
exotic forge
I tried it on dummies and it stayed at 41k absorb shield
because Arms has it at a 20 second cooldown
The tooltip shares the same information from its Prot version
in other words, it's misleading
spice hornet
time to get a job
Now it’s time?
lavish quest
Is eto a discord kitten?
vernal marsh
The tooltip shares the same information from its Prot version
I see so it’s always a flat amt for arms?
rancid granite
why would i keep trying when i already got anything <:HUH:1115674347865129042>
playing is to chase the W, chase glory
warped warren
Is eto a discord kitten?
myaaa
rancid granite
to make the opponent lose
warped warren
rancid granite
it's never ending
stuck mulch
playing is to chase the W, chase glory
exotic forge
playing is to chase the W, chase glory
urban skiff
this is for you guys first time ever hitting 1,8k in rbg
Big fucking grats man
wheat jay
nevermind enh is stupid and let me freecast whole game
urban skiff
2300 just around the corner
urban skiff
no rogue lobby
how
and double dh lobby
2x dh and 2x shaman
i take that back, this is weird asf
onyx marlin
because Arms has it at a 20 second cooldown
They should remove IP cd and give it 50 or so rage cost for Arms
exotic forge
They should remove IP cd and give it 50 or so rage cost for Arms
Or maybe, hear me out
MAYBE
And this is a hot take
but MAYBEEEEE
remove it from the gcd :)
urban skiff
They should remove IP cd and give it 50 or so rage cost for Arms
make it useable every time you've gained 100 rage
What stage of playing is it when you feel sad over a victory because you spot all the ways they could have won?
latent fossil
What stage of playing is it when you feel sad over a victory because you spot al...
what the fuck did I just watch
urban skiff
what the fuck did I just watch
Idk, but I was flipping the bird (two hands) when i was being lifegripped
urban skiff
tbh
urban skiff
what the fuck did I just watch
these demo locks have to be put in their place
urban skiff
what the fuck
stubborn monk wouldn't die
just one more win and we recovered
eeeee
monkies
warped warren
these demo locks have to be put in their place
ahahahah wtf
urban skiff
urban skiff
that monk did 0 damage in his go
told him to punch air and he did lol
warped warren
urban skiff
Ok but seriously, idk when his go was
warped warren
@34s
loud lantern
Does "Fueld by violence" work on unholy minions?
sweet solstice
how does anyone see that
is ely shaman ez 2 play in arenas?
warped warren
im sure you can see the big stomp and green explosion on the ground
sweet solstice
looks like ur just freecasting even while trained
warped warren
is ely shaman ez 2 play in arenas?
its enhance
urban skiff
Fuck we lost to a frost mage resto druid
made a mistake and didn't get mage damage shut down faste nough
jovial torrent
warrior got killed from 60-0 while in a clone
urban skiff
warrior got killed from 60-0 while in a clone
THAT'S THE TALENT
KILL OR BE KILLED IN CYCLONE
jovial torrent
nah cus he didnt die first @urban skiff he went from 100-80 got cloned then died
lavish quest
junior peak
Do you guys dance in and out of stances?
Im getting super comfy with fury, but I always thought we should just stay in D stance, but maybe I can start switching it in and out of CDs
urban skiff
nah cus he didnt die first <@205395474784583681> he went from 100-80 got cloned...
weird shit
we're facing completely different caliber of players this time
urban skiff
for now yea
warped warren
warrior got killed from 60-0 while in a clone
hahahah wat
oh kill or be killed
worst talent in the game
jovial torrent
yeh i dunno he just continued to take dmg, dk said he blew him up so dunno why he could be hit and i coudlnt heal
warped warren
trust me
jovial torrent
but kill or be killed only procs when u die tho righ?
he went from 100-80 got cloned then died int he clone
urban skiff
1700 within reach
lol why are people having trouble with WW?
eeee mirror
funky map
steady python
Haste 15>Mastery, never crit
15% when scaled up to gs289 right?
sterile moth
Are the new changes a net nerf?
urban skiff
Are the new changes a net nerf?
they say it's a nerf in here
I think arms gonna be better overall among the general player base
spice hornet
what froze you a minute in?
solemn elm
Do you guys dance in and out of stances?
always