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, i just wana catch liquid stream, i feel like whenever i go look for it , its a rebroadcast streaming
You don't know how I look...
I'll give you they don't exist when you don't go outside

thus i can still make an assumption that if you went out they still wouldnt exist for you
you're shrodinger's ugly
arms is in the back, does that count
The few times I have gone out... I did actually get interest. Just was already there with a different girl, or didn't pick up on it till later.
Does all of this mean you're ugly too? 
So where your baddie then?
missing signs is the name of my memoirs
thats not true i was arms then fury now back arms
Same brüthür
polish baddies 
It's pretty sick how you can't parry a sub rogue anymore
you rejected arms last week..?
Yes you were arms. But fury was the one back
yeah fighting sub rogue as war is so fun rn
I was counting on the clock when you went vs Kalvish
37 sec CC chain
Insane shit
lmfaooo
every rogue even the ones that dont cc me out dps me
in what world can a rogue out dps an arms warrior
no logic in that
High dps, most control and cc and cant die
Balance
Rogue is almost 30% of all arena games
one where sub rogue has shadow dance indefinitely
Sub
Woops, did not mean to reply there
Balance
Idk what gives them CDR on dance anymore
probably just evisc
do they have cdr?
ik dance is 20s cd 2 charges
Is it time to reroll sub?
I hear they made it simple too :)
spending combos probably gives it cdr
It used to
Idk if it does anymore
And like coup spends 12 combo points or some shit
well how do they have dance indefinitely
imagine colossus smash had 2 charges on a 20s cd
Still wouldn't be as good
and mortal strike stunned them for 4 seconds
nothing
Sub have fixed cooldown on dance, they can extend duration of dance with haste + a talent and they can play a dance talent that adds +3 seconds if they stay in stealth for 6 seconds (nobody plays that one)
So it really is just because they have dance for every DR
Dance has 2 charges and 20 second cooldown
Yeah, so for every DR
Pretty much yeah
but they want to have two charges saved up for shadow blades so that's not exactly 1 for each DR
haste gives it uptime, lot of rogues go a set amount of haste then stack mastery for a few extra globals
We gotta nuke sub damage if they're gonna have this level of control
and I have at least one round today where I couldn't stun at any point because the evoker was "helping"
If it's 20 sec CD, then they'll have 1 for every DR
How tf did dance go from a big cd to 2 charge 20s recharge? Lmao
TWW's sub was great, less sustain more burst, now it's just warrior pressure but with cc
I mean that's some god tier shit
It's lowkey shadowlands arms levels of permanent CS uptime
No, they start out with 2 charges, spend two charges immediately. Then there's 10 seconds until they get next charge (too early for this DR) then 30 seconds until the second charge comes in. If they save the first dance cd for next DR then the 2nd dance will also delay for the next round of DR
there's zero dmg without dance tho
Brother if you kidney+cheap, then the DR and Dance CD is gonna be up at the same time
idk how to explain, it's ever so slightly skewed and controlled by outside factors, what sub really cares about is doing dance+stech as much as possible and also into DRs
did someone summon me???
do not
nerf dance cd to 30s and make them pick between gouge or disarm not both
I did come to realise I was actually having fun as soon as there was no sub rogue in my games
i enjoy the game more against a frost mage than i do vs rogue
as arms
which is absolutely wild
Twice the sub rogues on ladder compared to fury+arms combined
gonna be wild when rogue gets nerfed and casters dominate the game again
so that warriors still stay in the dumpster
cause gonna be a ranged meta
warrior mage hype
whats wild is sub is easier to play than warrior
fucking yes please
Actually just take away their MS effect and disarm
The only reason they have ms in the first place is because blizzard cannot think of any other poison
nerdy ass pve player:
akshually warrior is very easy you jut need to press the buttons
remove crippling poison, make shiv the same as hamstring 
If rogues get nerfed, then the caster meta is also nerfed
yeah press the buttons .. there's just double the amount of buttons :D
Because rogue is a caster's prefered melee
tomorrow is guna be nice, only downside is disc and resto dru getting stronger so more clones and more brick wall priests in the matches
RPX, RLX, RMX, Dancing with the stars etc.
ok artji posting on reddit i see...
realest thing youve ever said (probably)
all my homies HATE rdruid meta
rdruid meta is cringey
Purge is supposed to be the counter to instant cast hots but then they have too many instant cast hots to counter that purge is dispellable
hpal
reading it 1sec
nah bro the guy is a noob
just play VS in duel and 100-0 people 
dragons are dragin'deez'nuts bullshit
rsham is just bullshit to fight if you aren't a turbo-W spec with a good ms effect and non-spell CC
rdruid is ok when rogue isn't OP
Pres meta isn't the worst
i knew you'd love it
monk meta I'd tolerate if they didn't have so much instant cc and coco
if they buffed blur to 35% like havoc, and made devour unkickable again
it'd be a proper pvp spec
like
legit a good spec
haven't kept up with 12.0.5 notes, anything good in them?
cuz rn its a caster with no spammable cc, no immunity, no big wall, needs to ramp up
soul immolation will heal for 24% of your hp
rather than doing self damage xD
oh and the class has only one slow, which is glaive lmao
which is ass
both costs a talent point each
wasnt it like 3s tho?
for 3 slows + whatever you get back from playing voidscarred
3 slows, all last like 6s
and are 50%
no roots either
hmm
i dunno
its not a good pvp spec xD
thats all
shuffle 1800+ XD
can you link it? I'm curious about the total
I want enh shaman to suck so I can have the spec to myself again 🙁
3s XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Like I just get cc'd as soon as I drop my totem at 1600 mmr
this is fun
Just gonna try dropping peestorm and grab thorim's
bro devourer is not even good in blitz XD
I think they're erring on the side of caution with devourer, to avoid another situation like aug release
aug wasn't about damage either, it was entirely about their kit
Literally not about aug damage on release, couldn't be. They didn't have specific damage buffs in group content at the time
if they gave arms off gcd 12s ignore pain that actually put a shield on you.... and buffed execute...
Was just super thorns and being 75% healer and 40% of a damage dealer, sum greater than 100% and messing up with enemy go's because cc on healer wasn't enough
arms is already a decent spec

ignore pain should make them ignore CC for the duration
don't tell me you can ignore being slammed by a dragon but oh no thorny roots make feetsies hurtsies
A true warrior would just walk into the beartrap and then sprint at their target with their new ankle jewelry
I'm fury now, tomorrow I might give arms a go
Actually
Says who....
I hit pretty big chunks with it rn
Probably balanced given the duration is 0.3 seconds
yup
Devourer might be the worst spec they ever made
I know, I can't wait to try it
You guys, I'm gonna have the most epic meltdowns and be such a baby about it
ladder
Ladders can't speak, dummy
Hey did the upcoming patch + the hotfixes kill prot paladins for real or will we see them rise in shuffle again?
nerf sub rogue

PSA: If your ladder starts talking to you, stop drop and roll.
ye, sub enables too much cancer
I think sub is where it should be. I'm still stuck at low ratings
I can 1v1 the best mages in the game on my hunter but I can’t 1v1 a 1400 sub rogue ?
this is my journey so far
60% longer of 1 passive instantly removes is still 1 passive instantly removed
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
anyone going to fury slayer with the 20% execute buff or is it still expected to be underwhelming?
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
Probably a stay thane angle
choice between avatar and bladestorm is brutal for fury i doubt slayer will be good
pasta so good its hard to tell if its real or not
still complaining about rogue? just because we're finally viable and have damage outside of our burst and we can finally keep up with cringe arms warriors living forever in d stance - just wait til i get weapons next week, you're cooked, catboinahj out
tell me any way a warrior could play this elegantly
You can't because you're all check and no mate m8
Whats the conq cap next week?
cringe incarnate
that's halfway to a full set of gear
yes
another fellow L taker 💪
I aim to displease
remove ms from the game
link
remove ms from 2s at the very least, or overhaul MS to be part of class / spec kit and not just a tradition they're afraid to touch
Reduce CC duration 2s as well
id increase dr reset to 20s
remove double cheapshot from rogue
give spammable cc 8s cooldown
👍
Or throw in a reverse CC duration reduction, like damp start high and then drop over the first 2 minutes
enjoy the game
I was thinking so hard about why I’m stuck in the 1500s-1600s and really if it was me or my class. I was working around in my head why Arms needed to do such little damage. It’s because 25% healing reduction constantly on your main target from Battlelord is just kind of broken. If it did Ret’s damage and reduced healing by that much, it wo...
the headline is good too
not even close to what it should be...
I'm pretty sure I hit 150k with it yd
too bad cocoon is 500k...
Man, all these people claiming high rating stuck below 1400.. I'm starting to feel like a god for hitting 1600+ on week1
on multiple specs
multi challenger 

Eksdee
At least it matters against Dark Pact for all the locks that aren't playing right now
i played my shaman to exactly 1600 shuffle for the 2set and then went back to 2s enhancement
hoping to nail 2100 or 2300 early this season with wife so we can play other stuff and not feel like we have to guard our ratings
Zercher is gatekeeping his climb on purpose
He's showing yo ass up
will get elite 2 weeks before season end
Or @jovial torrent decides to play more with us so we can become GLADIATORS
make it exciting
noone is playing
its only rogue
Did zerch get elite last season?
First time, yea
x2
twice with an hour between them
Literally a day or two before season ended as well
Then got 2100 with wife in 2s enhancement+disc
His dad works at blizzard
Sir Blizzard
Inflation abuser like Leland
If at least sub rogue took skill man
Literally every monkey on the planet can play sub the way it is rn
yep
Time to main sub
tbh I can't
I tried and it sucked for me
do damage with 2 buttons
spam cc
done
oh no im dying
IMMUNITY
oh no im dying to melee thistime
IMMUNITY
oh no im dying to havoc, dk, paladin DOUBLE IMMUNITY BABY
OH NO MY IMMUNITIES ARE OUT
VANISH
VANISH AGAIN
lets try to do some cc
KIDNEY HEALER DOUBLE CHEAP DPS WOOHOOO
100-0
oh no he lived
ahhhh gonna feel so good playing ww next reset
well lets do i again in 16 seconds

this time i can blind healer after kidney for even longer cc
I mean, I watched Mud sit a 37 sec CC into Kalvish yd in 2s
oopsie 2nd dps is doing something, GAUGE

only 37s*
I'm not even exaggerating man
ye i know
He sat CC for so long he got full Kidney again
i had a shuffle yesterday and i wanted to do collapsing star 🙁
man stopped me by himslef until meta ran out
HAHAH
and meta runs out like 80% slower when in cc
and i can generate fury too
which i did
xD
that was like 10 stops to collapsing star
i wonder if its a good idea to queue for blitz in the middle/late into the season
Ping me when sub is ruined out of the meta
of course why not
the inflation is in
although not as high in the first season
a lot of people are saying blitz feels like shit this time around
seems to be a mix of pvers and class changes at play
gay
I lowkey think the nerfs will change nothing, so go for it
orc > human
every spec is better than human, except for midget races of coruse
orc still has stun reduction right?
What? The stun racial is awesome
?
on human?
that's what trinket is for
but what if you want more 😛
^
ahaha fuck I'm trying my hardest not to go Gnome
more, brother youre immune to half of cc
berserker rage
trinket for clone/stun
done
I stayed as human instead of going gnome
Now I have a higher bench press than @winged thistle
druid cyclone
Oh
could haveb een orc
I have orc
play it then
I will in time
I need to rage at the game and how awful PvP is a bit more
Then I rotate around and level it
listen
im down to play any day
we have the worst comp in the game ready
on standby
just like shadowlands
artji go healer
we play ww arms healer
Leveling is so awful
....
I think I'll abuse timewalking tomorrow and try and see if my sanity can tank it
I could go Hpala for y'all ngl
It's better than reg dungeons
ye but i dont think eto has any class for me 🙁
i guess ww would do same shit as arms?
I was gonna use the timewalking for another class, thinking either Rogue or Enhance Shaman, which would you do?
Does haste increase reage generation?
ye but lets say i spam the delve on repeat in voidstorm
windwalker..
20kxp per 1min iirc
But aren't they nerfing ww?
20mins ish per level?
ww fun
iirc yes
you need like 400 or
if you do it mad fast
He said WW
So it's a WW+DH angle
ye, which is ass for me
what
hmmmm
Huh?

hahahah
buhhhh
i play devourer and nuke people in your stuns
hpala with 14 judgement nerfs
its hpala, so 1300
is so fun guys
works
havoc also kinda ass now 
gonna lvl my monk tomorrow prob 
it is, conduit healing nerfed by 50% is pretty brutal

No
I am not Q'ing till sub rogue is deleted
Thanos snapped

ptsd from afro frost...
lmao
was fun to watch ngl
afro chasing some healer behind pillar, kargish getting bullied by two dps 
cant wait to see what happens with solo shuffle next week, feels like everyone gave up q'ing since its capped at 2100
theyre gonna inject 500 mmr
will it actually increase and if it only increases by 100-200 ppl still wont q
for fun
As in hard-capped?
i fel like nothing is guna happen, blizz currently having a panic attack that liquid are guna oneshot the next 2 bosses within 4 hours
hwahhaha what is this goated mog
like soft capped, a few ppl have got just slightly above 2100 by probs getting 2099 then getting a 6-0 lobby
Bis mog
but blitz currently has half the players of shuffle and is already past 3k mmr
when i saw it
damn i woulda thought blitz had way more players than shuffle
cause blitz is better than shuffle
where do you get the info
maybe not more players but more games played
id love to see active player #'s between each rated mode =p
im not sure where i saw the post now if it was on forum or reddit
i dunno what website this is
top shuffle bottom blitz, about 2x as many chars in shuffle on leaderboards
time to level high mountain sub
They do this mmr cap shit at the beginning of every xpac and it’s always a shit show
Idk why they keep doing it
apparently the website is seramate
jesus
theres some dumbass bean pusher thats like if ppl hit their goal first month they will unsub
il be interested to see if a bunch of m+ only ppl unsub or keep playing , because atm 3k for both mounts is very easy
Q'd into Blizo at 1900
tho we wont really know cus blizz doesnt publish numbers like that
Was a good time
ohh that one. thanks
Kargish is back on Wednesday
Eto is a great character
Eto is a great character
im pretty sure this guy was in a bunch of my games on the first week
he's a wowcel
Keep them from getting rewards, oh wait its the only capped bracket kek
he's wowmaxxing
He's amusing. He'll rating shame me, but then he shuts up real quick as soon as I make fun of him for anything ever. Great times
heh well 3v3 is bad but atleast its not rbg, rank 1 cutoff rbg is 2100 atm
yeah thats how it goes with a hard reset of mmr
Maybe in blitz
and why it rolls over between seasons
Deleting WoW right now
No you arent lmfao
got some of my cr back on my dh. 1925 this morning ss
Deleting WoW right now
kek
Kargish having his seasonal crash out as always
Putting me in the SS bracket because he refuses to play anything
Forcing me to pug 3k m+ as always
460g for a shuffle
Did you heal?
ye
Healer brother
Yeah they buffed the gold
I don’t hate the hard reset tbh
- 650g augment
They are adding incentives
1k gold for a shuffle
hard reset mmr should be a thing every season imo
im gonna be a millionaire
Still peasant money
But capping it is so dumb lmao
same lol, ive got every healer leveled atm apart from shaman
Hazard pay.
send me 1mil right now
Everyone with high mmr rises anyways
this season i was supposed to learn to play healer 
Yea I agree
GLARE INTO GLARE INTO GLARE INTO GLARE
I could make like 50 or 60k from carrying a 10
I dont get the soft resets whatsoever tbh
@wheat jay 
i feel like trinket nolonger removes glare, i havent tried to duel to confirm it
I have 5 mill but it's on NA
wow... cool
It never did
Like just slap everyone to 1500 regardless of previous rating
It doesnt impact anyone except make early queues faster
A small loan of 1 million
And also prolongs the season because people need to climb
I'd never get it back
Id like a small loan of 1 million
Gotta get on MUDs tbc gold buying soon
Not minion
I will give you 1 dk minion
That’s slavery
I am missing like 6% damage from gems 😠
And that’s bad
Puss
I need it for da raid
I can’t even imagine doing 6% less dmg
CANT PLAY M+ TOMORROW BECAUSE DUMB SO HAS A BIRTHDAY
Break up immediately
Who's shorter? @warped warren Or @elfin surge
Held back by a woman. Weak
i heard that as well in a twitch chat of the mythic raid push
weird that someone there knew that
I’m filling for divorce as we speak so I can push r1 on 5 characters
hahahahahah
Divorce will cost you more time. You just gotta keep her and convince her to go on girls nights at this point
blitz lol
women you can find all the time, galatic gladiator its only once
So true
these girls night turns out into she going into guys night pretty quickly 
BUT BROOOOO I CANT DO ANYYSING t. artji
niiice, hows the execute buff
Don’t ask about Warried passing me 3 hours after this
Nah this is from tww
Eto is concerned because I haven’t done shuffle yet because it’s pointless
Atm
@elfin surge give me your gold source
G2G
I need to buy TBC boes
Bro you need blitz reps they’ll help you here
?
i dunno if il start grinding shuffle next week or week after, guna just get that silent shuffle addon and q for my healer taxes while trying to play welll
?
Cant wait to grind Shuffle when it gets uncapped
I’ll start shuffle soon… just not wasting time rn sitting at 2100
For no reason
That’s 4 lobbies in 3 weeks
Says gnome. Can't respect it
NA ladder harder
kappa
keepo
@warped warren This is @fierce elm, the next time he locks frost and sees what I lock
In order to argue rating differences you must have a r1 title that’s the new rule
Mud made it
shuffle or blitz doesnt count
I have the real deal title
3s
GG
3s only titles sry
I will get my contender title in 3s and come back
I order to write criticism here you have to be lifetime 2.1 or below
Rip
Not me im not home lol
only ones effected by the cabal may comment
Yeahg
I am rank 1 on NA, I got 1400 in 3s on EU
Only PvErs may speak. Clearly the real game modes.
Yeah
Syeg gonna spam
Ye
If you aren't 2.6+ in M+ rn then you should not speak
Shush Afro. Your io is too low
Hes noob tho
Uhm I am above 2.6
😶
get fucekd n00b
I haven't even pushed io in a week and my shit is higher than yours
I don't have friends
thank the glord the pride event is coming to warcraft
Don't think you need friends to get carried
lmfao
I was he who was carrying (tank) 
I have to lower the key level to run with friends
nah
BELIEVE
Also haven't you been running with your world first guild mates? (Kargish)
why is nobody talking about the realms being up
Getting carried by Artji?
We have jobs
and he didn't bring his cool Echo raiders
I've done 0 keys with Artji
strange
I have to carry Meth this week
Or blow him off and play with Fleperd

Who's better to play with? Florida man or Jersey boy?
Not two?
I tried to play on eu and was hard stuck 1200
Keys mad easy
Fleperd wants to pvp, you want to pve... so turn taking
:3
I'd play monk
PvP with him
Or something
We will get you the white bird
It ain't hard
I need to get 3k for myself this week so I can start doing good boosts
im nearly there and i havent even done 1 seat of triumvirate
nearly timed a 14 with most party having 0 set
was off by less than 10 secs
Yeah I kinda stopped at 2.7 tho could have kept er going
Its content for the real people
not a bunch of bots like PvP
Wow can't wait to be traded 300k gold for this battlepet
But either getting big myth wep from vault or crafting one so starting the push back up and ez finish
Ima just get solarflare prism Myth track from vault
And got a myth ring I probably should have already crafted
top 2 in shuffle are a prot pally and arms warrior
Just carry me to 3k in full pvp gear
then craft bracers 🙏
Crit vers 2h from AA
Can be done if I find heals and DPS who can do it and won't care lol
Crest trading when
3k in full champ gear with 4 set is very doable
By playing the game lmao
Just pve nerd
strange
You can get 3/6 hero from 10s
CAN THESE GUYS JUST BUY MY PET SO I CAN GO HANG OUT ON THE COUCH

still nothing on how it drops rom pvp
yeah because fuck that
I think it's 1600-1800?
then hero 1800-2100
then myth crests
I have more mythic crests than any other ones
Since I’m playing the proper bracket early on
oh hey
don't ask questions

Oh yeah we get the hero track neck this week
pvp is a side gig, like battle pet
Aren't you at work?
yes i am
vault deez
i got a crit/vers neck first vault 
hero track tier chest from first vault champ track tier pants this week
i hope tomorrow's vault is just as bad so I don't get the itch for pve
so i can keep tanking my cr
go back
everyone going troll now or what
for 33% reduction to roots and slows instead of 25%?
Yea
lol
45
lol
they don't stack additively
I'm almost certain
Yes they do
since when?
100% do
venruki tested it like 10 min ago on stream
oh, that's so weird
only ugly races for warrior jeez
wait, streamers are stupid. Are we certain he understands the math?
Gnome still better in 3s
someone have link to racial changes
There is no racial change except bstance change
its not a racial change, but the new snare reduc from battlestance stacks additively with troll racial
gnome 3s, troll shuff/blitz?
go orc...
Yeah swap race depending on the content you do lads
orc racial seems useless now with stun changes
cries in poor
2 warriors nerd
I can't stand the estrogen infusion
Or just don't be a nerd
THEY ALL ALREADY DO
They all got 17 warriors
one character or NO characters
CAN WE BUFF DK
@ mud
too bad the elite set looks dookie
where's ret? aren't they ranged?
best set in a long time
they need their own 'wildcard' role
i hate it 
bro how
good god having devoker and frost mage on S is cancer
we buying double haste weapons as fury?
actually have no fucking clue. i pressed the ring shit but it redirected me to amulets i gues
not the first time it has done it
Hell no
Unless no mast weapon exists
they do
in which case buy the crit weapon
ye they do
just buy 1 haste 1 mast incase you wanna go arms too
Yeah so get da mast weapon
Hell no
or if you wanna be cool with big muscles go crit

DK is that way ->
Remove A+
Then we're good
Adding + and whatever else to tier lists kills their point
Suddenly all specs are a tier or better...
lolol yeah the A+ tier is worse than wildcard
Is this old? Ww was nerfed to f tier.
Afro told me so

You just gotta convert. So it's S A B C and Warrior tier
I DIDNR SAY THAT
REMOVE MW/HPALA
but neiiiin
Yes
Of course the forever duelist preg reacts
lmfao
sword prob
whos buying these 130 ilvl boes evne...
ignore lowelo
im 1800+ thats DECENT elo rn
kappa
practically 2400 rn
lowkey r1 range
famous warlock question
just mad because they're one of our fav go targets
theres no way priests are below hpala on tier list
top of that head lookin like a osrs character
lol
men)))
((((
blyat?!
blyaaaad
Not to them
bruh..
lidl upgrade ? )
Damn, you got some impressive gear
Can someone confirm how broke mm are now?
@urban skiff
What
nothing cna be worse than one shot volley
theyre A tier
Idk what they were before
MM literally caught a nerf
Reddit wants me to believe they got buffed, not nerfed
reddit only reads green up arrows
I think it was a warrior complaining, not sure
This is just r/worldofpvp being clueless, no?
r/wpvp and clueless is a redundant statement
where did you work last night

bro visiting g2g 1am forgetting he got some shady deals

No message either
lmfao
just a single "ty"
''ty for the irl money''
What is bro thanking you for
ty for the purchase
What bro is thanking you
Like what the fuck
WHO IS THIS BRO
give us the name
no lmfao
inb4 its afros alt
I have been getting sponsored by zercher lmfao

did you use #codeMUD40 ?
lmfao MUD blessing me
no
fak
afro finally recieving his flowers for keeping mud's twitch chat alive
🫴 🌹
Holy fuck all the good karma
i know this was at like 10 am but sephuz’s secret and
would destroy these rmps
Hey you guys, quick dumb question. I have full honor gear. And have been told to craft some gear because crafted gear gets special enchants. Which ones do I craft?
The pins provide all this information
wow market
crafting is a bit convoluted












