pvp

[copper fox]

Anyway gg if you were on my team

[robust hearth]

the retardadin

ya u duoing with seth

arent ya

[copper fox]

Yes

[robust hearth]

knew it

[copper fox]

Were you the ret on our off carts?

[magic knot]

solo shuffle wouldnt be bad if the fucking qu wasnt 20 mins

[robust hearth]

thx :p

[royal vortex]

hmm

[royal vortex]

dis is my experience in solo shuffle, my ret pally being outdamaged by healer

why does spell reflected collapsing star hit like a wet noodle? is it bugged?

[wheat jay]

Collapsing star itself hits like a noodle lol

[royal vortex]

i feel it hits me alot harder then when its spellreflected

[wheat jay]

What are the Numbers then

[exotic forge]

It crits for 60k to 90k

That's the most I've seen it do

[wheat jay]

Yep

[royal vortex]

is does like 1/5 of my hp bar, spell reflected the hp bar doesnt move

[royal vortex]

best part about this game is i take 13 hour break cuz i had 4 games in a row with 0/6 healer

dat resto shaman

0/6

[wheat jay]

Shields, walls, you gotta check the dmg meter or combat log

But the spell itself doesn't hit hard

Biggest i did was 120k, on 3rd or 4th cast

[exotic forge]

Maybe take Rebound to up that reflect damage

[wheat jay]

Its thing around the skill that double the dmg

And subsequent globals

Cuz once you finish the cast you do another ability instant

Same as demolish+ms

[royal vortex]

but like wat is dis

game after game

one healer with hands one healer playing with a wii steering wheel'

comeon

[green wharf]

whats the point of this shit

and why its a "capstone"

this is first roll talents material

[wheat jay]

Cuz 5% is a lot

[green wharf]

oh, understandable

[wheat jay]

Its so funny how someone can use their wall or some cooldown and you're like "oh nice he wasted wall, i win in few seconds"

[green wharf]

when the ret panic bubble at the start of the match

man played DK all day today, decided to go one arms skirmishes/bg

what a fucking pain

[wheat jay]

I did devourer arms hpal 3s with kargish yesterday and ngl

Into most comps he had good uptime

[green wharf]

well with free freeedon i expect it would be

[wheat jay]

Ye haha

But also spear is broken af

Please blizz make it 1min cd

[royal vortex]

u want it on a shorter cd?

[wheat jay]

Yes

[royal vortex]

shieeesh

i want back my stun on charge

[wheat jay]

Worthless small stun vs best aoe peel in the game?

[royal vortex]

and throwdown

throwdown i think would make devoker and devourer less cancer

question, why is it sometimes when i spear, my spear is just gone

[wheat jay]

Bug i think, my warr said the same

Devourer doesn't rly kite well

So no shot you have issues with it

[royal vortex]

dat one map

the sewer map

[wheat jay]

Don't jump down lol

[royal vortex]

nono but devourer just blinks across the platforms

[wheat jay]

They can jump on them too xD

Hunter can disengage too lmao but that's harder to do

[wheat jay]

3 blinks, 18s cd each

And backflip

[royal vortex]

yea so devourer always has a blink up before i get back my leap or charge

[wheat jay]

Walk

They have to channel all the time

And dont slow, unless with glaive for like 6s 50% slow

[royal vortex]

yeah walk around to him and then blink xd

[wheat jay]

No roots

Long af cd on cc so they wont use it on you to kite unless they're in big danger of dying

Its the easiest range to have uptime on

Maybe except spriest

[royal vortex]

huh, so finally i get the god game, 2 healers who are equal, feral+havoc+lock

i cannot lose

go 3/6 then feral ragequits

and i get 17 rating

okay okay i need to chill, dis much complaining is horrible to listen to

[wheat jay]

xD

nah its fine

game can be frustrating

but gotta remember

its just pixels

[royal vortex]

yess but i come back from 13 hour break cuz i have 4 0/6 healers in a row

then my day starts with 3 games in a row 0/6 healers

and then i finally get a good game

and someone ragequits

then i get put into tigers peak

vs frost mage

lock

and boomkin

https://tenor.com/view/mrnotthatfamous-close-fingers-this-close-gif-5181181

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[wheat jay]

its okay

i was playing into sub as devourer every lobby

[royal vortex]

sub feels so handheld, stun stun stun stun smokescreen stun stun stun aaaaaand ur dead

get em to 10hp, odyns comes back off cd

aaaaaaaand he is invis

[wheat jay]

dude i had a sub rogue who would evasion before starting the fight

cuz he wanted to dodge cc when doing his opener with full cds and smoke bomb

bro forgot he cant dodge fear or magic effects...

[junior peak]

Is it worth having a rogue alt?

Only ever played rogue pve

[wheat jay]

its op as fuck sooooooo

ye i guess

[junior peak]

lol noooooice

[urban skiff]

put it on DR. let's go

[granite epoch]

anyone play slayer in any lobs yet

i think im just not liking thane or smth

[wind sand]

Guys, have trouble deciding on which target to engage in 2s. Was queing with a retri friend. We got to 1300 in ~40 games and started having issues when facing healver/dps comp. I usually know most of the classes and their defensives but have a hard time deciding on who the initial engage will be

[wheat jay]

BUT

theres always a big butt

the butt this time is that its likely to get nerfed

[novel crater]

yes dont swap to slayer

stick to MT

[granite epoch]

🔮

[wheat jay]

ngl i wouldnt do double dsps with warr

[novel crater]

there is 0 point in playing slayer rn

[junior peak]

I mean whenever I try to 1v1 a rogue they’re always 1 shot and then they disappear lmao

And paladin is the same basically, they use their virgin bubble, might start using shattering

[wind sand]

Yeah, i know from back when i played a bit pvp in sl s3 and s4 that its most optimal with a healer, but my bro is dps brain... The plan was me going mw monk, but got my war geared first :d

[granite epoch]

it feels infinitely better as a pvp hero talent

but besides that yea

im just M+'ing down melee lobbies as MT

[wheat jay]

shadowlands it was more viable than now

[novel crater]

Is leland awake?

[granite epoch]

was my last one lol

[urban skiff]

What's not to like? Thick claps, thick bts, thick rampages. Thane does everything right and we even get to skip the stupid bladestorm that looks so dumb

[novel crater]

I need a pin, I finished making a guide

[wheat jay]

he always is O_O

[granite epoch]

ye dumb looking bladestorm who would want that

[wheat jay]

@lavish quest get your ass up hoe

[novel crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AixsJczAXnE

[wind sand]

i see, thanks for the tip!

[novel crater]

I'll tag him later @wheat jay ty LMAO

[wheat jay]

wish i could give more but legit, warr in 2s as double dps means you will NEVER win into good players

[urban skiff]

Blizzard's obsession with having warriors and barbarians just spin around like a 4-year-old's playground powermove is just insane to me

[wheat jay]

thats just how it is on warrior

you cant reliably reset in any way

or win by trading cooldowns

cuz you'll eventually died

its to the point where whenever me and friend faced triple dps in skirmishes we'd just do 2v3 for more fun

[junior peak]

I’ll have a look soon. But you use rend, how often do you press it in rotation?

[granite epoch]

what's the proc called that gives you the giga BT's

[novel crater]

never

[junior peak]

Oh thank god

[granite epoch]

burst of power?

[novel crater]

I have the rotation on the vid

[urban skiff]

It's recklessness + Burst of power

and also Vicious Contempt

It's all the modifiers stacked together

[wind sand]

yeah, felt like the moment we encountered a team who had a plan in their mind it was extremely hard for us to do anything. We stomped the lower-skilled players tho.

[granite epoch]

im not playing that, are you?

[urban skiff]

yea

but I suck, don't listen to me if I do something others don't

[granite epoch]

nope looks like most people are

i must have some weird old build

im heavy right side

been playing arms til today but i've had enough

[urban skiff]

Personalyl I just decided I don't want to RB anymore

if I have a free global I'll likely use it to refresh hamstring and generally I have something I can press and it's not like my RB is just gone

@granite epoch this is what I'm running

Got me 1600 with relative ease

[wind sand]

why no kill or be killed tho

[urban skiff]

That the cheat death talent?

[wind sand]

ye

[urban skiff]

has it worked for you yet?

[wind sand]

twice for ~40 games

2 dps

(2v2)

[urban skiff]

In shuffle you'll die in the prep room the round after and auto lose the round

[wind sand]

lmao

in 2v2 it felt good. My duo clutched a couple of games 1v2 after i died. I tried doing as much as I can in those 8 sec windows.

but as i mentioned above,we got stuck at 1300 and decided to call it for the day 😄 he is 2.6xp but im a noob still, max i did was 1.6 like a couple of years ago in sl

Also, i have a question about wrecking throw/Shattering throw. What do you guys drop when you want to pick either of them?

[urban skiff]

I can't remember, I just try not to let mages and paladins block and bubble

easier than worrying about talents if you're me

[wind sand]

how do you prevent them from doing that though? 😄

[wheat jay]

kill them so fast they cant react fast enough

[royal vortex]

yea warriors are limp dicks

[urban skiff]

Man I want to shake the people who claim addons didn't help people play before blizzard decided to fix some things

[wheat jay]

its the same shit

[urban skiff]

Reviewing my VODs and my totems just stay alive their full duration right now in the 1600ish range

All of TWW even at 1300 people would instantly clap my cap totem and cs totem

Straight up biggest buff they could have given shaman was make it so people with spaceship UIs don't get alerted to my totem shenanigans

[wheat jay]

the only thing thats missing is omnicd

i dunno i see all totems still

just most of the time they dont matter htat much to me

as they dont absorb collapsing star, i dont know why lmao

[urban skiff]

You do, but every low level scrub suddenly don't

the jarring contrast is what's alerting me to how much average people were being carried by UIs

Airhorn! Ok that's a CS totem now where is it

AIRHORN! Counterstrike totem let's tap that real quick

[wheat jay]

oh 100% that was the case

it still somewhat is with most things

cuz minicc screams all the same

its just icons tho

and ppl dont react to icons haha

[jovial torrent]

totems are such a struggle somtimes, i need to enable icons, biggest problem is their hp bars overlap making it really hard to click on somtimes whenever blizzui decides that the most important totem gets hidden under another

[wheat jay]

some totems have a lot of hp

surging totem just doesnt die lol

[jovial torrent]

i need to record, but does doomwinds actually show up on minicc nameplates?

i swear i never see it

[wheat jay]

no clue

[jovial torrent]

i just hear the awoo of some ability and hero

[wheat jay]

i need to customize it somehow

cuz man its so annoying to see 4 freedoms...

[urban skiff]

speaking of minicc and icons, what is this? It's a disc priest+ret paladin team

[wheat jay]

no clue

lmao

[jovial torrent]

when priest lands fear they immune next cc for 15 secs

[urban skiff]

looks like it eats my cap totem and disappears with it

[jovial torrent]

that is the immune buff

[wheat jay]

ohhh

good to know

wish i could have a weakaura ABOVE FOCUS FRAME TO TRACK IT LIKE I DID BEFORE

i swear to god i hate that they removed all addons, then they came back, we have the same functions but worse customization

its dogshit

[jovial torrent]

think im guna enable the thing which shows all cd's being popped in a bar, and throw it at top of ui so maybe i can see some stuff being popped when the player is offscreen

[urban skiff]

Probably think of it as them getting ahead of players automating gameplay

[wheat jay]

the automation is the same tho

[urban skiff]

I could have made a weakaura that, against certain setups, could have told me exactly when to use what

[wheat jay]

everything is the same in pvp except omnicd

[wind sand]

surging totem is core to totemic so it should be unkillable inmho

[wheat jay]

you still track shit

you still see everything

[wind sand]

spec wouldn't work without it

[urban skiff]

it is unkillab

[jovial torrent]

not being able to whitelist blacklist easy and have multiple nameplate bars sucks

[wheat jay]

ye that too

[jovial torrent]

its all stacked in one place wether its defensive or offensive, id like that split

[wheat jay]

like, i want to track 5 specific buffs

done

meanwihle i cant

i dont need to see 4 freedom icons

[urban skiff]

I think the next step is they allow us to make a list of important cooldowns and allow us to use the boss timeline to track enemy "important" cooldowns

[wheat jay]

when i need to see combust and shadowblades lol

like, they even removed whitelist/blacklist from elvui and plater

its terrible

xD

[jovial torrent]

one that really annoys me is evoker, their wall covers their cc immunity

[urban skiff]

To be fair, you aren't in doubt of when they use combust or shadow bladfes

Like you can tell it's coming before it happens

[wheat jay]

ye

i also see them on nameplates

but its still stupid that i can track in 5 ways, but 6th is forbidden and bad

[jovial torrent]

omnibar for cc and kicks would be really nice too

[urban skiff]

I've begun dropping cs totems before rogue go and just completely fuck up their rotation because they're running such tight ship on the total number of GCDs they do during dance

[wheat jay]

20s dr and we're golden

lmao

id take that over omnibar

[urban skiff]

or add charges to spammable ccs that are expended upon start cast not successful cast

[jovial torrent]

lol yeh , 16 sec is too low when not all classes are equal with spammable cc

[wheat jay]

i had an idea, and it stays the same

8s cooldown on spammable cc

done

[urban skiff]

That sounds nice

[wheat jay]

or make it like collapsing star, if you stop the cast yourself or it gets stopped it goes on 5s cd

if it goes through, no cd

[urban skiff]

Tbh if you kick a spell it should go on a longer cooldown.

[wheat jay]

like, if mage fakecasts poly

5s cd

[urban skiff]

One thing is spell school lockdown, another is the actual spell should be inaccessible for a while

[wheat jay]

if i kick poly, 5s cd

[urban skiff]

this is eactly what I want

[wheat jay]

if i stun them or fear, 5s cd on poly

it works like that with devourer, so tech is already there for blizzard

rogue uses cheap shot, 5s cd

[jovial torrent]

watched santi's vid, guna try taking multi stormbolt instead of the shield, i feel that shield works like 1/5th of the time

[urban skiff]

The only reason I take the shield is to not fuck up DRs with multi stormbolt

[wheat jay]

fuck drs, spam cc

O_O

[jovial torrent]

yeh the 16 sec dr i think just lets u get away with it, even if u are with a WW or somthign the dr is so low u can both get full duration melee aoe stuns

[urban skiff]

Reviewing VODs, just.. This is the camerashake of disbelief

Turns out the paladin clapped himself for 80k with cs totem

[wheat jay]

lmao

[jovial torrent]

any of u struggling with castbar btw, i feel like mine changes colour randomly

[wheat jay]

are you using plater?

[jovial torrent]

like somtimes its grey to show it cant be interrupted which is fine, but somtimes its red and somtimes its green

betterbblizz plates/frames

[wheat jay]

cuz they made it so diff abilities have different colors

oh

i dunno then

mine makes cc casts more orange, and normal casts yellow

[jovial torrent]

i think thats happening in betterblizz to, and its really confusing

[wheat jay]

i do like that

ngl

[jovial torrent]

i kept seeing red bars and i was like, can i interrupt this?!/

[wheat jay]

xd

check your settings

[urban skiff]

I'm trying to find out when my castbar decided to turn small

I swear it's just cold bro

[wheat jay]

lmao

[jovial torrent]

also i need to find a way to hide buffs on target frame

somtimes its like 7 bars tall

[wheat jay]

cant whitelist so it tracks everything

its annoying af

let me just whitelist blizz, please O_O

by ID

[jovial torrent]

its so tall it gets close to covering my arenaframes, so i have them higher than i norm would

[urban skiff]

Anyone wondering, I didn't overlay music at all

This is exactly how it played out while I did arena and where it ended

[jovial torrent]

smf fury is actually a real class, gaddamn

[urban skiff]

They really tried so hard

@jovial torrent

[jovial torrent]

which ability is the howl sound

[worldly oriole]

should I level war lol

[urban skiff]

hot hand proc

This is the world famous CHOPPAH

[jovial torrent]

i should do a bit more of that brawl to finish honor gearing all chars#

[urban skiff]

@jovial torrent I use blizzard's standard CDM and add sound alerts

[warped warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583317765310382091/1485585435664060526/RDT_20260323_1124138434987638986859494.jpg?ex=69c266c0&is=69c11540&hm=c6bccb7203aa0eb66a6ff56346a57e1b17cecf94dfd99346ea92cfb26daf8d03&

[urban skiff]

finally

[warped warren]

chat is this real?

[urban skiff]

I need that Dark Souls experience when playing arenas and Enh, sub, feral, don't cut it these days

[urban skiff]

I need the brawl for rep

like badly

[wheat jay]

Yes arms too strong, kargish was a little over half my dmg with perfect uptime

We can't have that

[jovial torrent]

the problem is im nearly exalted on horde char but the alliance rep is seperate and i really dont wana play the brawl on my horde chars

[wheat jay]

Granted i was freecasting aoe bombs

[warped warren]

[urban skiff]

that's my issue as well

I did math and I still need like 350 flag caps before I'm done

at least winning or losing don't matter so I can just keep pushing feral and get a few flags every once in a while

[tight rain]

I got a few 130k+ Mortal Strike on arena, on dummy even 200k, can't believe locks aren't crying on forums yet

[wheat jay]

cuz they cry about rogues lmao

[tight rain]

Legit cry tbh

[jovial torrent]

thane is kind of slightly fake dmg, ur pressure isnt actually that high cus alot of your dps dmg is auto cleave to unimportant things

[urban skiff]

meh, i tank rogues all the time

[urban skiff]

thane pressure is wild. It's not from the actual damage but from having the best MS effect in the game with 100% uptime during recklessness if you get to hit your target

36% ms from 3x rampage

Rampage -> recklessness -> rampage rampage -> good lucky healing this, brother

[jovial torrent]

shame they giga nerfed the duration in tww

[wheat jay]

and warr is still mostly not an issue

its not a damage problem for arms

[urban skiff]

They did, but as long as you pop off after the stacks fall off you're golden

[wheat jay]

its everything else

and ALL would be fixed with 1min spear haha

[urban skiff]

30 seconds really make that much of a difference?

[wheat jay]

yes

[jovial torrent]

till evokers yoink ppl out , or lock gates/ports and dk just walks out of it

[wheat jay]

rogue, mage, hunter, and so on

monk

healers

its one of the best peels in the game

and gives warr uptime

[jovial torrent]

i think ive had a ret without fail in my past 10-15 shuffle lobbies

and enhance

[wheat jay]

sub for me lmao

[jovial torrent]

alot of havoc dh too

[wheat jay]

ahhh yes

the free win

[jovial torrent]

my healers get non stop rogues cus the game wants me to sit in cc

[urban skiff]

this is strange to me, because they aren't any better represented and i haven't seen them yet except when I'm in the lobby

[jovial torrent]

i wish, not so much with ret parma freedom them

they are all chillin at 1750 lol

the mmr is very sus atm, i still randomly get new unrated ppl in my games somtimes which leads to a auto 3-3 timewaste

[idle falcon]

I remember when it was 20 seconds

[jovial torrent]

its like they went 6-0 in the first lobby then get throw into 1700 ones

[urban skiff]

All the weird healler diff lobbys are just killing my win/loss ratio

Sometimes I can force an extra win, sometimes i make a mistake because I get too comfy and the 3-3 turns sideways while still being a 0-6 healer lobby at heart

[worldly oriole]

Holy shit im gaming so hard today no gym

[urban skiff]

I wouldn't care if it was 4 seconds if the stacks then refreshed

[jovial torrent]

the healer balance isnt very good atm , and theres alot of multi rank 1 healers at 1700-1900

[urban skiff]

also a lot of classes and specs in the lobby that all play better together than they do with me

[copper fox]

Don’t you have work it’s Monday

[urban skiff]

Like throw in a rogue + mage + feral and I'm just sadface

[copper fox]

Jk Tony I know I know

[wheat jay]

no work only gaming

[jovial torrent]

i dont think alot of dps realise how busted dmg is either, like if u press nothing in the opener if i get cc u will die, or i have to trinket cocoon the first cc

[copper fox]

Why didn’t we pin Santis video

[urban skiff]

Because laughing at tony crafting two belts is more important

[fierce elm]

Because Leland and Kargish dont provide any information

[worldly oriole]

XD i do want to start working soon

im looking crisp from the gym

[copper fox]

Bro

[worldly oriole]

just gotta start earning income

[copper fox]

You been saying that since tww s2

[copper fox]

Time to replace

[fierce elm]

It really is

But it wont happen lmfao

[copper fox]

Yea ik lol it’s muds fault

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm scroll up and watch my videos, there's Choppah in one of them

[wheat jay]

then do so

Tony

at some point you have to become a valuable citizen

[fierce elm]

im in bed man

[wheat jay]

one who gives something to society

[urban skiff]

stop that

also why don't you have normal waking hours?

[fierce elm]

lmfao

I got closing shifts at work brother

[wheat jay]

hes a slave

[fierce elm]

So I do all my gaming and free time stuff from midnight to 5am

then sleep

[urban skiff]

I don't even know what you do at work

[fierce elm]

neither do I

[urban skiff]

I assume you're like washing bottles for recycling something

or braid S&M harnesses to hamsters

[lavish quest]

I had to sleep

[fierce elm]

smh

[lavish quest]

Santi had a vid?

What we talkin about?

[fierce elm]

Kargish pins are wrong 😠

[lavish quest]

Well I knew that from the start

[fierce elm]

This channel BLOWS

[lavish quest]

Is this about the embellishments again?

What was meta? Arcanoweave?

[urban skiff]

I found a job I might take.

What is a professional way to say "This specific job falls within my special interests and I would do it for free with the intensity and skill of rainman but with the social skills of not rainman"?

[rancid granite]

id roll with exactly what you said

copy paste it

[urban skiff]

That would not show that my social skills are "not rainman"

[lavish quest]

Do I unpin Karg's fake news?

[urban skiff]

sure

If you pin something true

[copper fox]

Yes

[lavish quest]

Crafting

Do some rated PvP to get the quest item for the free 9 heraldries. Use those for:

Slots:

• Wrists
• Cloak

Embellishment:

• Arcanoweave

After this, you can craft other slots like your neck, rings, etc if you wish.

[copper fox]

Wait

No

Fix that wrist

Back space it

[lavish quest]

Our characters have two arms

[copper fox]

[lavish quest]

But memes aside. This is the meta play the nerds came up with yes?

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-parker-spiderman-gif-9830229

[copper fox]

And neck

[jovial torrent]

arms warriors this season

[copper fox]

Neck wrist cloak

Crafted

[green wharf]

i think you can do either neck or ring no

[copper fox]

Yea we are probably going to end up crafting more tbh

[green wharf]

ring you could enchant right away

[copper fox]

Most people had blue ring enchanted

So doing neck saves gold if you did

[green wharf]

ah, fair

[worldly oriole]

its so fuckin over for me

down to 1800 from 1960

[wheat jay]

Rip

[copper fox]

Seasons over

Wrap it up

[wheat jay]

Can we have 1min spear please?

[idle falcon]

1 min duration?

👀

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Ye but make it 40 yards haha

[jovial torrent]

make it grab and drag people into the circle as it passes through them, like evoker root breath animation

[wheat jay]

That would be cool

[idle falcon]

1 min duration, 40 yard range, locks u in the middle, in a 5 yard range

[wheat jay]

Tho ngl I think feral should have a charge with grab and slam as a cooldown

Bear form required

Like, blizz could be so creative but they're not...

Devourer could have aoe black hole instead of fear

[jovial torrent]

warrior hasnt really gotten any new animation in a long while hasnt it?

[wheat jay]

Pulls you in for 3s, fears if you're in it when it collapses

Would be cool af

[lavish quest]

Kills you if you're in it when it collapses*

[wheat jay]

that, instead of 3s fear

id say it would be nice

would be a nice kiting thing

or peel

[lavish quest]

Pop it, stun them in it, they die

[wheat jay]

lmao

[lavish quest]

They've been messing with our animations for a while

[wheat jay]

but ngl it would be a nice cc chain, stun, throw black hole

but then again its the same as just stun and fear sigil

just that this one would be a pull/slow

[lavish quest]

I would love some freedom as war

[wheat jay]

you are free to reroll

[lavish quest]

Guess I have to

[wheat jay]

i recommend devourer

its DOGSHIT but fun

so youd gain fun and stay the same balance wise

[kindred citrus]

Quick question, i reached 1700+ in blitz and after 4 loses in a row i get 0 rating for wins and -20 for losses. Is my toon screwed?

[jovial torrent]

just win more

[wheat jay]

if youre like 1700cr and 1500mmr, youre not gonna gain for wins

you need to win more

[rustic magnet]

Like that stupid trinket from corruption season in bfa? Mage/rouge perma cc’ing you in it and then 1shot you💀

[spring willow]

fury for solo shuffle?

[rustic magnet]

Arms 🫡

[jovial torrent]

fury is just better atm

[spring willow]

arms is the shit again?

[lavish quest]

Yup

[spring willow]

ok the pinned messages say fury aswell

[lavish quest]

Fury is just better

[worldly oriole]

I PREDARK BOMB

GG

[lavish quest]

Can still play arms if you prefer, but yeah

[lavish quest]

Probably still died

[worldly oriole]

NO

but shit 3-3 lobby

double ret sub dh 2x mw

rogue went 1-5

i predefensived all his goes

lol

[wheat jay]

Gamer

[weak wedge]

On the condition that it works

Lost count of the number of times I placed a spear for it to nope out

[lavish quest]

On the undermine map might as well not even run spear

bang_cry

[solemn elm]

wonder why that happens

happened to me on maldraxxus

went into the pillar

was so irritating

rarely happens to me but when it does it’s very obnoxious

[lavish quest]

It's okay, surely we're windwalkers now

COPIUM

[solemn elm]

easily the worst bug rn

one day i’ll make a youtube guide like santi

santi with aoe stormbolt though idk about that one

head scratcher there

[weak wedge]

Maybe they should make it a choice between an aoe roar that does a dot and the spear on the same point

[lavish quest]

I've heard of this famous Santi video

[weak wedge]

Dunno

[lavish quest]

I should look it up

Santi been so MIA from this channel as of late

[solemn elm]

he been making that guide man

everything is wonderful except for aoe stormbolt

[lavish quest]

It was before the expac even dropped

[solemn elm]

i dunno he pops in here and there tho

i streamy some more turbo today

before i leave to work

i had a cool win vs the skill capped people the people that write the guides

jax moran and awaken

that was the most fun game yet

[lavish quest]

@novel crater I gotchu/found it

[lavish quest]

Did you trash talk their guides mid match?

[solemn elm]

no LMAO

[lavish quest]

If you won, they just put fury a tier higher than it should be

[solemn elm]

i did win

it’s on my strum

i play more later today tho

ya they gonna put fury in s tier after that

[lavish quest]

Alarm died, so I overslept, so will probably stay at work late. So will get home in time to crash again

[elfin surge]

bald.

[lavish quest]

Mald

[latent fossil]

Arms.

[lavish quest]

Is bad

[lavish quest]

This is my good mornings @spice hornet

[spice hornet]

at least you get good mornings

Mud just ignores me

[latent fossil]

[lavish quest]

What'd you do to him?
All I do is meme and shit on him and he loves me

No homo but homo kind of a deal

[spice hornet]

I do the exact same thing

I think he loves me too but its more of a tough love

recall I got him stormforged and valk

so I know I have a special place in his heart

[lavish quest]

Confirm? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

Leland is more active

@spice hornet just pings me here

you follow me everywhere

[lavish quest]

So Qfiend has gotta get more persistent

[warped warren]

bros recommending poopoo stinky spec... atleast say arms

[wheat jay]

Poopoo stinky but we did well

That math ain't mathin'

[dusky parrot]

we're all gonna make it

I hit the nastiest 115k crit on demolish

sorry 113k*

[wheat jay]

Big

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpscare-kid-jumpscare-kid-heart-attack-gif-12535254628037896885

Colossus arms is a jumpscare

[fickle forge]

Step up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897055819475091456/1485392586695901386/image.png?ex=69c25be5&is=69c10a65&hm=6eb24d9697b27d8c138173a9f12d202806b90e8821f5d80f2b0401dc602db632&

[dusky parrot]

YEAH AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE

FURY IS BETTER

BIG DAM ARMS IS BACK

[rancid granite]

told you 🚬

[lavish quest]

Hit a big demolish once in a few matches

Vs fury cranking in general

[fickle forge]

I swear it's only you that miss it Leland

[lavish quest]

I mean... can't miss it if I don't send it

I did a handful of games as Colo max in TWW

And when it landed, dmg was smol

[warped warren]

leland fury otp

im so sorry..

you dont know rral happiness

[lavish quest]

Fury was better more often than not in TWW

[fickle forge]

Then get bigger lifts

Fury is the smol brain choice

[jovial torrent]

what do u guys think of 3% leech vs second wind for rbg

[fickle forge]

SW

[lavish quest]

Wind heals you between fights

[warped warren]

leech is gutted in pvp

[jovial torrent]

thats what i was thinking, wasnt sure how the leech worked out since we aoe so much in the big mid fight

[lavish quest]

Just flame the healers

[jovial torrent]

tempted to go deathwish again to blast early ranks before ppl decide focusing me all game is a good idea

[lavish quest]

Then you'll have to flame the healers 50% harder

[urban skiff]

Your CR went up more than your MMR

what the heck

Oh shit, the ELO system is trying harder to make CR and MMR match up

[lavish quest]

They went up the same

[urban skiff]

51 vs 53

[worldly oriole]

BLISS

[royal vortex]

LEEEEEEEETS FUUUUUCKING GOOOOOOOO

dat took an embarrasing long time

[lavish quest]

Oh I looked at starting mmv thinking CR, woops

[urban skiff]

that's exactly how it felt both times for me as well

[royal vortex]

1582 straight to 1653 i did a full fucking sweeep last match

[lavish quest]

Well the game has always tried to get your mmr and cr to match

[urban skiff]

yeah, but all of TWW it was always them meeting in the middle through a series of gains and losses. It throwing extra CR to match them up is weird

maybe it's an artifact of whatever is keeping MMR locked down

[jovial torrent]

why on earth am i in 1200 games with 1700 mmr

[sterile moth]

Was it a long queue?

[jovial torrent]

pretty long like 13-15 min

still placement matches i assume

[sterile moth]

Yeah

Matchmaking just gave up and said meh….you’ll be fine, mostly fine in this game

[subtle imp]

am I missing something

or do we just not have a root break in pvp anymore

(fury thane)

[deft wharf]

Does titanium weapon chain stack? I remember it used to be 1 per, but checking since lmaostatsquish

[lavish quest]

Trinket

[subtle imp]

makes sense

we weren't vulnerable enough to roots already

[jovial torrent]

just shrink your character model and u get a 1 min root break

[subtle imp]

genuinely might need to

[jovial torrent]

its already gotten me a few kills in solo shuffle were i get a root break into a rampage to finish someon

[subtle imp]

just copped an 8s root into a 4s root into stun into clone

like kill me irl

[wheat jay]

Fast way to losing society's respect

[sand sundial]

mmr goes brrrrrr

[lyric violet]

yay? nay?

[robust shadow]

is solo shuffle or blitz the faster way for 1.8 rating

i am already at 1600 in solo shuffle but its such a pain in the ass

[copper fox]

Blitz

[deft wharf]

what are ppl using for arena frames anymore?

my gladius isn't working

[fierce elm]

sArena

[deft wharf]

neat, is what I just installed

[lyric violet]

fighting for my life to get 3 rounds lmao

i had one where i got 4 but the hunter getting dicked on rage quit

denied me the 6 piece

[green anchor]

had the same

one game at 1200 MMR and even if I lost the next gaem would be at 1500 MMR again

first 25 games are meant to be placements so that's why I guess

[jovial torrent]

sheesh that many

[warped warren]

boom waddup

[jovial torrent]

bah about to lose my first bg cus its a ab cand i cant be in 5 places at ocne

[dusky parrot]

For DK/Hunt or even full melee you could do rumbling earth instead of wrecking through. Good wide cc that has a ridiculous range and good cc if you hit more than 3 so with pet comps it’s a constant 25 sec stun

[jovial torrent]

the enemy war deserved to win ofc

[vapid tartan]

We’ll be did get 2 more caps..

[jovial torrent]

yeh by fighting at bases i wasnt at lol

[vapid tartan]

More value created tho

I’d say he deserved to win off that as

Dmg on node maps is kinda meh

[jovial torrent]

ehh not really, just because im not the one clicking the flag doesnt mean i didnt wipe multiple nodes and move onto others

just unfortunate they had more people with a pulse overall

it was f'd from the start when we only sent 2 bs and they sent enhance healer frostmage mid popped lust and deleted healer

[stuck mulch]

helping a homie out

[copper fox]

2 bs is the strat tbh. If they sent more it means they were out numbered somewhere else and should lose

2 bs, 2 lm, 1 main base, rest mines

Is the avg strat @ like 3k mmr

[jovial torrent]

they somehow won the other bases i think we started with only stables and gm

[copper fox]

That’s a general statement. You clearly just had the bot team lol

[jovial torrent]

yeh lol, oh well, i think ab is like one of my favourite casual bg's but my most hated ranked one

tho eots was up there with bases randomly getting stolen

[copper fox]

I like the new eots

Dude my autocorrect is on fire today

[jovial torrent]

i heard they changed it , whats diff now?

[copper fox]

All 4 bases always active

[jovial torrent]

nice, i like that, no more tanks stalling

[copper fox]

The strat right now is like

2 mid, 1 per base, rest hit dr or fr

Again, generally

[jovial torrent]

do u take orbs in kormogu btw, i usually do but it feels like its better on range since they can do dmg without having to go in danger

[sand sundial]

there are better classes, but i personally always go for them

randos arent reliable

[copper fox]

Low mmr is weird because sometimes you have to solo carry but generally no

Warrior should never touch

[sand sundial]

just too squishy imo

[vapid tartan]

Only grab orbs at like 1300 points and ur desperate type shit

[copper fox]

Yea

Or if you’re the only human on your team

[vapid tartan]

9/10 times is troll to pick

[jovial torrent]

i used to grab them cus i knew i could bait the enemy team by heroic leaping out to the upper layer to stall

but feels like a waste

[vapid tartan]

Trash after double leap removed

why did we lose everything

[copper fox]

lol

[sand sundial]

we also had that nice raging blow talent

back when rb did anything

[jovial torrent]

they meant to prune dps abilities but they forgot and left them in arms warrior and pruned all the utility

[green wharf]

they only pruned our ability to walk

is warrior the only class with talents like this? "this is an talent improvement but also fuck you its gonna be worse as well"

the trade off is making 10s longer for some reason

does any other class have it?

[deft wharf]

wtf, thane slaps

[jovial torrent]

not that i can think of really, wsg time 😄

[worldly oriole]

lol

1730 down from 1960

[copper fox]

Didn’t this happen to you last season too lol

[worldly oriole]

im sharp though

[spice hornet]

Tony always losing 200-300 rating

[wheat jay]

tony's goals are beyond our understanding

thats all there is to it

xD

[exotic forge]

Rogue comes to mind

[wheat jay]

lmao 10s shuffle q

wtf

AND THERE'S NO ROGUES WTFFFFFFFFFFFF

[jovial torrent]

dont fall for it! blizz trying to bait you to q before more inflatioN!

[wheat jay]

i had pve gear...

[ebon steeple]

Man wtf is this lobby

[exotic forge]

I somehow had a good time against devo/bm/mw lol

[green wharf]

my boy flark got mogged

[exotic forge]

Unholy?

[wheat jay]

damage

[exotic forge]

Because with Thane you Thunder CLAP some cheeks

You do DAMAGE

[wheat jay]

thats waht this game is ALL about

damage

brooooo how are people dying to enh

just pop cds

cc

anything

fking shuffle xD

[green wharf]

Hunters are missing out

[granite epoch]

enhance doesnt even play ascendance

and your whole statement is just wrong lol

[ebon steeple]

Man i just wanted some nice, calm games.

[green wharf]

in this economy?

[ebon steeple]

Fair

[green anchor]

love having to constantly pick up orbs in Kotmogu because nobody understands the game

as warrior

clenched cheeks win though

1485-1500

is Abolishedtv someone known

[rough raven]

Is there anyone on that can craft the PVP bracers or cloak? I've been asking in my trade and guild and no one seems to be able to.

[granite epoch]

YEP! Send em here

[rough raven]

NA? What's your tag?

[jovial torrent]

please rnjesus be kinder with me

[robust hearth]

no way tht works

[fierce elm]

it doesnt

the upgrade window has always been fucky

[green wharf]

its bugged

wowhead posted

[warped warren]

faced 5 hunters past 7 games

are hunters good?

[lavish quest]

No

Warrior broken

[warped warren]

is this legal?

..

[green wharf]

people just wanting craft for free these days

couldnt even put for 500g

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-17665492613270485266

[lavish quest]

I put like 50g max

People make their money on resourcefullness

[warped warren]

vi von

[green wharf]

broken ass

[lavish quest]

Think you mean broke ass

And yes, just spent almost 700k on wow tokens m8

[rancid granite]

did you guys know shado-pan are like paladin-ninjas

pretty dope

[green anchor]

as much as I would like out of this 1600 MMR I do like the 5 min Q times lol

[worldly oriole]

is war really broken

[lavish quest]

Yes.

An afk mage told me this once

[little condor]

I fulfill those orders at R3 just to force them into a recraft 🙂

[exotic forge]

Normally I give people 2k to buy themselves a pocket healer

[solemn elm]

tiny choppa c:

[lavish quest]

Root break every 30s as monk is a great reason to swap

[solemn elm]

use it as often as you can, usually the first ability i use is the racial to get another one going later on in the game aswell especially like random roots

ill never be rooted

or piss slowed

[lavish quest]

Wtb our breaks back

[hazy spoke]

is fury washed in 2s?

[solemn elm]

no

really good spec for 2v2

maybe ya ain’t the right talents, or pressing the wrong stuff

[lavish quest]

Is bloodthirst really higher priority than rampage?

[stuck mulch]

i allways get my stuff free

[ebon steeple]

Bloodthirst is pretty much your execute now, you want to rampage a lot but pressing thirst in between does wonders

[fierce elm]

kek no way

it is usually fucky wucky

[solemn elm]

it literally does it all

yesterday i hit someone for 110k with blood thirst

it’s better to blood thirst especially if it’s bloodbath when they’re low it hits so insanely hard

[lavish quest]

I've gotten up to like 90k

[solemn elm]

and obviously with burst of power too

when it all lines up it’s so juicy, 35% you have all your stuff up, burst of power just procced

it’s over for that guy

[lavish quest]

But my muscle memory is already struggling to not hit raging blow first 😂

[solemn elm]

yea dw me too i miss onslaught man

but you’ll adjust quick especially since it hits hard

[onyx marlin]

yeahl, expect arms nerfs this week

[green wharf]

you joke but there is a fair chance for that to happen

[onyx marlin]

thats the saddest part

[urban skiff]

do what I do, swap the buttons around

[onyx marlin]

[urban skiff]

Shamans don't even play ascendance though

[novel crater]

@lavish quest ty for the pin on the guide, just saw it

[urban skiff]

It's been like that for ages. People cannot get the currency required to do the upgrade.

[lyric violet]

so close lol

[lavish quest]

Haven't watched it yet.
People will watch, find something wrong, and then come complain to me about it. Gonna be great.

[urban skiff]

MMR +88, CR +72

[lyric violet]

i got baited ngl i saw the 1600 and got hype

then was like

aw

aw aw

aw

im having a bad day irl was kind of nice to get a 6 piece

not just crash out go 0-6

[dusky parrot]

can say a certain ableist slur without Ret

[urban skiff]

ok so I can kill 7 enemy players at the same time in world content

not bad

[novel crater]

Lmao just tag me when they do thats its fine

[urban skiff]

oh no what do i do

had him to 2% or something and then accidentally swapped target off of him

eeee

[lavish quest]

You'd think Mud would make a vid and have it pinned here for the free promo.
But nope, time to make you famous bud. Go get em Santi 😂

[urban skiff]

redemption vs another team

[fierce elm]

MUD doesnt give a fuck lmfao

[lavish quest]

Crazy. He could quit KFC, but nope.

[fierce elm]

He is in KFC 4 life

[lavish quest]

Homie streams twice a year but gets hundreds of viewers.
He gets epussy with his "clout."
So on, so forth

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay wtf is this devourer nonsense

[fierce elm]

He casts some stuff, he dies

[urban skiff]

more like he casts nothing and is embarassing

[fierce elm]

He has like one defensive versus you lmao

[urban skiff]

darkness 2x blur

[lavish quest]

@elfin surge

[fierce elm]

Yeah just slap through dark and blur

Then he flops between them

[urban skiff]

my defensive is I put down counterstrike totem and deal even more damage

[urban skiff]

gods i miss thunderstorm

[wheat jay]

?

[urban skiff]

get out of that darkness

[urban skiff]

they don't do shit

[wheat jay]

you literally play into THE SINGLE WORST DEFENSIVELY SPEC

[north thicket]

thanks a lot for the detailed guide!
Gathering Storms vs Thorim's - what's your take? since RB blows and BT is quasi-Execute? also: why Barbaric instead of Crushing?

[urban skiff]

THEN MAYBE HE SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO STAND ON MY FACE

[wheat jay]

brother

1500mmr 2s

[urban skiff]

apparently that's godtier, according to reddit

1500 mmr today is like 2800 last season

idk

lol

this has been a weird day

[last umbra]

are bloody tokens warband transferable

[wheat jay]

zercher

my man

its literally bot games

[urban skiff]

is where i belong though

[solemn elm]

it’s gud

if i made a guide i would say the same thing

[fierce elm]

@novel crater once called me a beta bitch boy : (

[solemn elm]

didn’t waste any time either

[lavish quest]

Is he wrong?

[fierce elm]

: )

[warped warren]

:)

[solemn elm]

[fierce elm]

Tbf I put my trust in 3 people here, Kennie, Meth and Santi

Dont trust the rest of yall

[warped warren]

damn...

[lavish quest]

Only one Afro could be more dominant over is MUD

[fierce elm]

The rest of yall, you get bullied

[novel crater]

the execute dmg + RB damg is too much to lose out on even with BT being our new execute. I would like to take Crushing Force too but you need Barbaric cuz you need something in the left side in order to get spear/anger management etc. And the increase in fear durating is too good to not take

[fierce elm]

So does Kennie, Meth and Santi though

[novel crater]

FAKE NEWS

[warm plinth]

understandable

[fierce elm]

Dude said on stream ”Man Afro is such a beta bitch boy” in a very sensual voice

ASMR like

[north thicket]

tnx!

[warped warren]

[lavish quest]

I'm just a supervisor

Keep control on you apes

[urban skiff]

shame we don't have weakaura anymore to make sound replacements

[fierce elm]

: (

[urban skiff]

actually we can maybe get them into the CDManager as custom sounds

[lavish quest]

Time to ban Afro for not trusting yellow name

[warped warren]

chudbull

[dusky parrot]

chadbull*

I gotchu homie

[lavish quest]

Unemployedbull*

[lavish quest]

Don't think so

[last umbra]

okay thankyou, might gear up an alt solely for pvp is it faster to suffer in no gear or just farm on my warr and xfer it

for honour*

[urban skiff]

MIRROR TIME

[spice hornet]

Mud is the easiest bully target

[latent fossil]

Bloodthirst

[spice hornet]

Followed by Tony

Actually Tony might be #1

[fierce elm]

Cant Bully tony

he is literally immune

Love that lil fella

[obsidian loom]

do we still get a free pvp weapon?

[fierce elm]

yes

[obsidian loom]

sick

hows it work again?

[fierce elm]

Get 2500 conquest and ya get tokens

so not this reset but next reset after rhis one

[obsidian loom]

thats right

i was about to craft one and remembered

[fierce elm]

Ya dont craft one hah

[lavish quest]

Watched it. No shirtless Santi. Downvoted

[urban skiff]

yeah no problem, just gotta solo healer and dps after my healer dies

no prob

biggest of womps for this ret

[worldly oriole]

we just roflstomped this cupid

as ww ret

[lavish quest]

Think I found out why mud might not like you

Jk, I bully him too

[spice hornet]

mud loves me

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge rate my totem control

this is realtime speed

[rancid granite]

whats your wife rate your totem control

[lavish quest]

Does he do kegels for his totems?

[fickle forge]

C tier

Standard sham play

[solemn elm]

true needed shirtless santi pic for chat blocker

[urban skiff]

69/7

it's 24/7 + 45

[urban skiff]

if only i were faster at switching targets that fight would have ended way sooner

You guys remember how worried everyone was that shuffle would be all guardian druids?

turns out top one is 1602 CR

[lavish quest]

And he said rampage first

[solemn elm]

to be fair rampaging is better because you want your slaughterhouse stacks but sometimes i usually have those up before i do anything

i just mash blood thirst because its going to hit insanely harder

and its going to cleave because of your whirlwind stacks

so you are hitting every one with it

and its crispy

odyns fury applys it aswell

[lavish quest]

And he plays gnome

mm_darwinDisgust

[copper fox]

I want Santi to be shirtless in the pose Sydney Sweeney was in for the jeans commercial

[solemn elm]

one day we will be orc

[copper fox]

No homo

Allegedly

[lavish quest]

I'm orc rn

[solemn elm]

so true

[lavish quest]

[urban skiff]

my brother is guardian druid and needs 1600 for raid

[copper fox]

Blitz

[urban skiff]

what do I play 3s with him as?

[copper fox]

Nothing

Blitz

[urban skiff]

I told him blitz

[copper fox]

It’s so easy as guardian

It’s free

It’s the best tank in the game

[urban skiff]

but he'll have to win two first games or it goes from a while to endless time until token

[copper fox]

He won’t lose

Does he have braincells

Guardian auto wins most maps

I stg

[urban skiff]

He's like me but actually smart

not fake smart

[novel crater]

LMAO

[stuck mulch]

we reachin on the ret

[robust hearth]

[stuck mulch]

boi been toxic

[robust hearth]

@copper fox wtf u do

they think ima bot

cuz i got r1 in 5 days into the season

[tribal holly]

Touch grass every now and then

[stuck mulch]

[robust hearth]

jk

[copper fox]

LMAO

[robust hearth]

[stuck mulch]

[copper fox]

Oh damn

[urban skiff]

Is there a known bug with lifegrip? Wife keeps getting errors and then 5 globals later it fires when I'm dead

[green wharf]

is he wrong though

[lavish quest]

This is stolen valor

[urban skiff]

check these chads

257k damage in 1 second