pvp

[onyx marlin]

just destroy the unh

[wheat jay]

ye

[hasty fractal]

Hey all, devouring banding on both bracers and cloak?

[wheat jay]

@onyx marlin so nice that i dont have interruptible casts lmao

[onyx marlin]

xD

[wheat jay]

NOT ENOUGH

xD

[fierce elm]

if going that route yes

[hasty fractal]

I see on murlok io, a lot of devouring banding bracers and arcanoweave lining for cloak. I do primariyl RBG and Blitz

But the pinned post says 2 devouring

[exotic forge]

Devouring Bolt good

[green wharf]

its whatever

[copper fox]

It’s not whatever lol

Arcano is better

Bracket doesn’t matter

[fierce elm]

Tell me the rating increase of arcanoweave compared to devouring smh

[copper fox]

600

[wheat jay]

69

[green wharf]

So the pins are lying?

[copper fox]

Yes

[green wharf]

@fickle forge wtf dude

[copper fox]

He didn’t know yet

Not his fault

[last umbra]

love your name @copper fox

[copper fox]

Ty

[lavish quest]

I knew I was right not to trust it

Get baited Syeg

[copper fox]

It is minor like Afro pointed out

But

[exotic forge]

So which one is good?

[lavish quest]

Nope. 600 rating increase

I read it here first

No wonder I'm hardstuck. I haven't even crafted yet

[green wharf]

jokes on you

im a master blacksmith and i can recraft my shit

[wheat jay]

tfw you try to bait syeg

but you didnt even have to

[green wharf]

cause you cant

[fierce elm]

Shaving all your hair down and moisturizing the skin beneath it

is equal to hitting a 315 bench for the first time

[copper fox]

Did that this morning

Ngl

[fierce elm]

Did it just now

[worldly oriole]

making plays with my patterns

[green wharf]

minor spelling mistake

[fierce elm]

It is incredible

[copper fox]

Yep

[exotic forge]

My man

[copper fox]

Actually euphoric

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[fierce elm]

All these hairchuds could never

[lavish quest]

Have too much hair

[copper fox]

Hair just gets in the way

[wheat jay]

you mean youre bald af?

rip

[lavish quest]

Not aerodynamic

[copper fox]

We are aerodynamic af

[fierce elm]

Leland has confirmed with the Council of Hair that he does in fact have hair

[lavish quest]

I meant me cuz I have hair

[wheat jay]

mhmm

i dunno i have good hair

[lavish quest]

I have hair all over unfort

[wheat jay]

i have small vegeta hairline

[wheat jay]

but not progressing for few years now

[fierce elm]

you wouldn't get it man

[wheat jay]

so we're good

[fierce elm]

it is euphoric

[wheat jay]

graying hard af

[fierce elm]

The first touch of warm water against bare skin

The testosterone increase of being bald

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-gae-pepe-julien-gif-13687553676606303412

[lavish quest]

Isn't syeg bald?

[exotic forge]

No, he's Brazilian

[lavish quest]

Malnourishment or something

[copper fox]

Bald its a massive test booster

[fierce elm]

Syeg has said he has curly hair

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

but has yet to provide proof to the Hair Council

[exotic forge]

[lavish quest]

You're our favorite Brazilian tho

[fierce elm]

Isn't he the only one

[copper fox]

Yes to both

[stuck mulch]

finally decent que times

[green wharf]

top view

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-looking-wait-what-whats-happening-gif-19261712

[fierce elm]

The Council of Hair says that yes, Syegfryed does have hair

[copper fox]

Syeg might also be Michael Jackson

[lavish quest]

Did you just get out of the shower there? Or enjoying the humidity?

[fierce elm]

I like the finger in the shot

[stuck mulch]

grease

[wheat jay]

eyo

[green wharf]

i was fixing the lamp on the bathroom, so i remember oh well might as well take the pic

[wheat jay]

can we have this as glad mount?

this goes HARD as fuck

[green wharf]

also yes the first

[stuck mulch]

need a full rbg team with that mount

🐒

[worldly oriole]

that mount is bunk af

you drank the koolaid

lol

[fierce elm]

that is cool

[copper fox]

Tony you complained about no player variety at 9am today

[lavish quest]

Afro, where's the council of height for addressing whether or not Mud's a gnome?

[copper fox]

We need the council of bench press tbh

[worldly oriole]

real gamers were there

in those lobbies

woke up slammed a preworkout and got to it

[copper fox]

I actually respect that

[lavish quest]

I submit my bench press of at least 50 lbs

Somewhere above that

But at least 50 lbs

[copper fox]

405+ to be on the council

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

Don't need one

[lavish quest]

I lifted more than that this weekend

With a car jack, but still

Had to change a wheel bearing

[copper fox]

Very manly of you

[lavish quest]

Yeah, banging on that shit for an hour under the car because it refused to come out, very manly

[wheat jay]

we had that before

before the nuke

[lavish quest]

Slowly creeping back to it huh

Well can't have that on my watch

[rancid granite]

💪

[lavish quest]

No press shaming. Even my press of at least 50 lbs

Gotta keep this SF and ambassador thing going

[exotic forge]

And he is Arms too

Holy

[lavish quest]

Yuge

[rancid granite]

there's no stopping me

[grizzled rapids]

If you bench press your weight 20 times

[rancid granite]

i got fury to 1600 and went back arms, i like it

still needs buff

[lavish quest]

The question is, did he stop melee range bolting healers?

[green anchor]

It's so fucking ugly, gz

[rancid granite]

best set yet

[wheat jay]

it is a very good set

tho id prefer diff color for elite

[grizzled rapids]

Wait, you shouldn't do this?

[lavish quest]

Set is great. The elite color is... not the best

[rancid granite]

i love purple so it works out for me lmao

[lavish quest]

You shouldn't run over to them un necessarily lol

[wheat jay]

meanwhile i made my dh look like a druid O_O

[lavish quest]

When you could stay on kill target at 20% and just throw the thing at the healer

[exotic forge]

best set is still demonic elite

[wheat jay]

legion antorus?

[exotic forge]

ye

[wheat jay]

eyooooooooo

[fickle forge]

I saw this development in the 8ball a week ago

[exotic forge]

look at this aura

[wheat jay]

ye

i have this

was my 1st ever elite

as double dps in 2s xD

arms/destro

[lavish quest]

Why didn't you run the Sims? 🤓

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/tellygum-gif-7997870579315684823

[exotic forge]

damn the economy really took a nosedive

wdym them motes of light are 1g each

[wheat jay]

@warped warren @jovial torrent any of you wanna heal 3s with me and kargish?

[warped warren]

not tonight

[lavish quest]

They have been since launch really

[warped warren]

20 mins in queue just to get a pedophile in my game

how is this a thing

[wheat jay]

did he touch you badly young Eto?

[warped warren]

he was a disc priest

with adaption

[wheat jay]

fucking hell

get that man to a cross

on a cross*

[fickle forge]

They're already nerding away

[warped warren]

and hes in my next game too

[tepid timber]

hello ! rb > bt in the rotation in pvp ? I'm checking the icy veins guid

[dusky parrot]

and I have yet to break 1600

[stuck mulch]

you can do it king

[wheat jay]

eto

come heal us

[rancid granite]

I was hardstuck 1500 for a while then just climbed to 1800 quickly

feels like I got 2400 again

[wheat jay]

kargish is a whiny baby and refuses to add anyone whos not 3700xp

and current season glad

[warped warren]

hahahaha

current season

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/168CqGKGQmU

@wheat jay find the errors

https://klipy.com/gifs/giggles-12

[wheat jay]

its a video on how to counter it

sooooo ye

you apply cc when they meta

[urban skiff]

and how it works

[wheat jay]

done

ye

not rocket science to press 3 buttons

lmao

[urban skiff]

iirc CC makes meta duration stop expiring

[wheat jay]

slows

doesnt stop

[urban skiff]

yea well slow

What I started doing was just outrange them like crazy

[wheat jay]

ye that works too

[urban skiff]

and then when they wasted mobility catching up they can't get away

and then kill them through meta

[warped warren]

is it even worth playing 3s now

[wheat jay]

fun

[warped warren]

inv

yalla

[wheat jay]

[urban skiff]

we had fun playing turbo last night, so I'd say yes

[warped warren]

gg

[solemn elm]

i’m playin with ur worm after u play ur gay prot pally comp

u don’t but time ur mobility with theirs

[solemn elm]

yes for fun and to get better

[vapid rover]

you play colossus or Slayer as arms ?

[rancid granite]

i was swapping back and forth but i feel i did better on colossus no matter the matchup

almost everyone on murlok is colossus atm too

[dusky parrot]

gotta get those winner queues eventually

[rancid granite]

i was puttin in werk

[worldly oriole]

my heads to the grindstone

1950

pushing to the big 2 thousand

in the new seas

[rancid granite]

gotta get that weapon enchant

give your weapon some BALLS

[warped warren]

thats so uglyt

ahhaha

[dusky parrot]

dude its so cool

the blue effect on the blade looks so doep

on thunderfury its BALLER

[rancid granite]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/wy5ho9uf6zgg1/pb/m2-res_498p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&var=sgpssan&v=1&e=1774227600&s=8ef404b450f4cc3c2ede41b3eaa0356001fde445

[wheat jay]

nice

[stuck mulch]

yo wtf is that how it is?

[solemn elm]

ye that’s the new enchant

[stuck mulch]

it looks so good

compared to the picture one

[solemn elm]

cause the static photo doesn’t let it cook

[vapid rover]

yeah that's what i see too,
It feel easier to set up a kill, just slack in D stance stack your demolish then beat their ass when avatar + CS connect

[lavish quest]

Any enjoyer of balls?

[solemn elm]

the balls are amazing

[lavish quest]

My WW is now honor geared

Did bg's here on a slow Sunday at work

[north thicket]

Leland, 2 questions about the rec build - how impactful is Stance Mastery and is Wrath worth it since RBlow blows

is stance mastery's healing reduced by MS and stuff? since it's a shield or whatnot

[solemn elm]

W can game whenever

stance mastery is cool but i haven’t taken it at all yet

haven’t been able to

[lavish quest]

Stance mastery doesn't heal you

It reduces big hits

[north thicket]

I see, is it noticeable?

since you are giving up +3% for this, from Dual Wield

[lavish quest]

Honestly. Not sure. The hit would basically have to be 100k for it to activate

But in that case, it shaves off 15k of it

Big aimed shots, bolts, demolishes, stuff like that

You could probably drop it for dam tbh

[north thicket]

hmm

what about wrath and fury - it looks I pop RB quite rarely when running BT-focused build

unsure about the right balancing between BT and RB spams

as Thane one is mashing %boosted BTs like mad

[lavish quest]

Wrath and Fury is what I drop when I want the AoE talent

[exotic forge]

they were like 50g last i checked

price dropped quickly

[lavish quest]

I was buying them for all elements like a week ago for 1g per

🤷

[stuck mulch]

here it is

[lavish quest]

It's the first talent to drop if you want to flex it for something else

[mighty kernel]

when the cap increases does our conquest gain for the week reset? meaning can we build another 3200 conquest in week 2 or just another 800?

[lavish quest]

800 more

[mighty kernel]

ok ty

[north thicket]

I see, got it

[stuck mulch]

sorry for basic question but how much does conq increase each week?

if you know

[urban skiff]

+800

[granite epoch]

how tf is "no MS" a weakness for a caster

[urban skiff]

I think it's sort of in relation to havoc but not really

[solemn elm]

gonna get reverse soon though

this tuesday

[urban skiff]

that's why i put a nice "lol" on the image next to it

[stuck mulch]

so wep next reset

[urban skiff]

no

1600 + 800 = 2400

[stuck mulch]

[dusky parrot]

Do they not have 2 blinks, double jump and glide

oh wait it said utility thought it said mobility

[urban skiff]

those blinks are both for getting in and getting out

So even if it said mobility I'd say there's a tiny bit of struggle

[lavish quest]

+800 a week

And devourer is OP, Artji is just bad

Source:

[worldly oriole]

DAMN i took a fat 0-6

to the face

its the beginning of the end

[urban skiff]

I don't feel any pressure from them

and you guys know me, it's not like my brain is on at any point long enough to cc anyone on purpose

[rancid granite]

i like it, whether its meta or not, a lil bit more controlled burst =p catches people off guard all the time

[urban skiff]

I suspect the devourers I've played against are the melee who got baited into trying a caster

[warped warren]

@wheat jay ?

[urban skiff]

I've only played with him

[wheat jay]

excuse me

im doing pretty well hello?

also, yes

most are baited lmao

[dusky parrot]

we're all gonna make it

[warped warren]

[fickle forge]

Artji is pretty heavy

[warped warren]

[urban skiff]

what a nice way to say you have weak knees and narrow shoulders

carry better

[warped warren]

real..

[dusky parrot]

IT IS BETTER TO TRY THAN NOT TRY AT ALL

[fickle forge]

I didn't lose with Afro btw

[warped warren]

artjis fault for sure

[urban skiff]

Sub rogue + devourer sounds like fun

[warped warren]

ew i got the mount ..

[fickle forge]

Why do I hear Artji say "He's dead" and then taps a rogue from 60%?

[wheat jay]

xD

[warped warren]

ahahahha

[urban skiff]

screenshot?

[warped warren]

BUFF DEVOURER

[wheat jay]

not 60%, lies

40%

[urban skiff]

nerf enhancement, it's unplayable

[dusky parrot]

seen enough, buff destro and mm hunter

nerf warrior

[urban skiff]

I'm kind of hoping they don't do anything about warrior so I can get my ENH struggle experience as arms

[ebon steeple]

God no

At least enh did dam

Arms can't move or hit hard

(I'm very bitter cuz my hate of fury is huge)

[urban skiff]

yea so keep arms as the genuine thing

Imagine having this opportunity to really struggle and work for something, and then not taking it

[exotic forge]

DH doesn't need a mortal strike effect

[green anchor]

No MS

die

[exotic forge]

And before anyone says it, I know Havoc has one

[north thicket]

collapsing star is reflectable right?

[urban skiff]

i feel like I can't ground it

[exotic forge]

I don't think it is

[urban skiff]

but I haven't tested it carefully

[exotic forge]

You can reflect Consume/Devour but not Genkidama

[north thicket]

Oo

[wheat jay]

@warped warren can we buff devourer?

i feel so useless man

[warped warren]

youre hitting 20000 pets man..

[wheat jay]

scoreboard shows dmg on players only

[warped warren]

oh..

[wheat jay]

xD

[warped warren]

i mean they perma tunnel karg

[wheat jay]

ye

i just hit aoe target dummy lmao

[lavish quest]

I knew devourer was op

[wheat jay]

shush

im getting buffed next week

xD

[fickle forge]

I knew devourer was op

[warped warren]

2 mil healer damage tho..

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hammer-pepe-gif-13327153

[exotic forge]

is that an unholy dk getting outdamaged

[wheat jay]

nerfhammer soon

[wheat jay]

magic of trading cooldowns lmao

[exotic forge]

What a world we live in

[wheat jay]

ikr

[north thicket]

going to slap a -25% pvp modifier on it, soon^tm

[wheat jay]

i doubt it

[granite epoch]

yo

where's that lil dude who was flaming me the other day

saying no arms warriors are playing mastery

every single arms warrior on murlok.io is playing full msatery

[fierce elm]

full mastery

lmao

more happy now

happy now

[granite epoch]

click on

any of them

rio

[solemn elm]

wasnt flaming you was just saying most people play haste for arms people are playing mastery because they play both arms and fury

[granite epoch]

all the top 5

every single top arms warrior is nearly full mast

[solemn elm]

ontop of that, arms is some garbage anyways they all instantly swapped to fury on stream

rio is my friend i was watching him play turbo just the other day too lol

never flamed you or anything

[fierce elm]

3-4 are playing a mix

5th is mixing

1-2 is full matery

aint nothing stopping you from doing whatchu want brother

(I am also pretty sure this is just their Fury gear too) lmao

[solemn elm]

in fact i really like your name because i really like that show

yea'

[urban skiff]

lmao

[granite epoch]

you legit said anyone who is playing mastery as arms has no idea what they are doing

lol

[fierce elm]

Goddamn this dude just mentally boomed you that hard

lmfao

[urban skiff]

you told me to buy haste gear if i wanted to play arms and fury both

[fierce elm]

THAT WAS PRE-SEASON

I also gain from messing the gearing of this channel up

[urban skiff]

mess it up better

I still have warriors charge at me like they aren't running into a meat grinder

i feel sad for them

[fierce elm]

The less warriors, MW and hpalas on the ladder

the better my spec gets

[urban skiff]

I'll have you know I'm top 25%

!

[junior peak]

So if you go 2v2 dps stack, are we just not great? (Fury)

I find when i don’t play with a healer im omega stomped

[warped warren]

warrior double dps is shit

[junior peak]

Thought so

[urban skiff]

nobody is good as double dps, but warriors are never good without a healer

[junior peak]

Should I just switch to a rogue lmao?

[urban skiff]

It's like extra ultra bad to double dps as a warrior

[fierce elm]

If you wanna dps 2v2 then yeah, Rogue/Mage

[junior peak]

Thought so. didn’t really enjoy it

[granite epoch]

im 1850 as enhance what does that make me

[junior peak]

I was getting slapped lmao

[granite epoch]

top 1%? mwah

[wheat jay]

ok, legit if they made spear 1min cd warr would be broken af

[urban skiff]

As cool as me

[urban skiff]

top20 people

[junior peak]

I had a really good time with my mate who was a resto the other day, was fun!

But duo with a mage was super tough

[lavish quest]

A Jeff

[urban skiff]

Goldblum?

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-war-helmet-shark-meme-gif-8983249853261281087

[urban skiff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-name-is-jeff-jeff-1

@wheat jay did you make your goober alt yet?

[wheat jay]

no lmao

[solemn elm]

if i sounded like i was being dumb or something im sorry but most people are a mix of both. definitely wasn’t trying to flame you or nothing

[urban skiff]

feels like shuffle rating is capped below 2.1k

if not, this is a funny look

[fierce elm]

probably is

[solemn elm]

and it is capped at 2100

[urban skiff]

Loveless is the 4th highest shuffle player EU that isn't a healer

[solemn elm]

i been sayin that smh

[urban skiff]

Could players theoretically feed their rating to one player and PROVE without a shadow of doubt that it's rigged to stay at or under 2.1k?

I mean we know pvp'ers would never do that because that would help someone else but

[lavish quest]

So shuffle has been a waste of my time.

Neat

[solemn elm]

well you can kind of just tell

nobody is 2100, 2100 is randomly rank 1

[urban skiff]

well sure, but also we're like a few days into the season

[solemn elm]

mhm, and blitz is 3k already papi

[urban skiff]

Blitz is a different monster

[jovial torrent]

6k blitz by end of season hype

[solemn elm]

so you see what i’m saying

here is some dumb example i can give you i am randomly number like 17 on fury warriors at piss 1889

[urban skiff]

let's say the 4 highest players get into a match together and decide to give the 2099 guy 6 wins. What would even happen then?

[solemn elm]

it would go up but by the smallest amount, like 1 point

if not that it just wouldn’t give you any rating at all

[urban skiff]

how does it work in chess?

[lavish quest]

Maybe they should add glad to blitz

[urban skiff]

Since wow modeled its elo rating off of that

[solemn elm]

i wish i knew but its just capped at 2100

[lavish quest]

Slots machine glad

[fierce elm]

Yeah it is just locked at 2100 lmao

[solemn elm]

theres no genuine explanation other than its just capped at 2100

[fierce elm]

Aint no way there is ONE guy above 2100 in EU

[urban skiff]

I wonder if all of inflation is just tied directly to the rating of the highest rated player

[solemn elm]

nah

just how much they add in the week

[fierce elm]

Inflation relates to the artifical MMR added

[solemn elm]

if that was the case then we would actually have high rating

in shuffle

already

[urban skiff]

well yes and no. The thing with pyramids is that the higher you want the tip off the ground, the bigger a foundation you need to build

[fierce elm]

but yeah, people would need to be high rating in order for MMR to go higher because that is how they get games

[solemn elm]

^

i have like 0 iq so i cant explain it to you

[urban skiff]

And with an elo system it's going to be exponentially more people for each bit of ranking you want up

[fickle forge]

Artji is making me sweat

[warped warren]

dont wanna flex but

[solemn elm]

pretty high ser duncan

[warped warren]

we won vs a 1700 rmp

[jovial torrent]

we need to go back to classic days, everyone must get 20 alts to 1800 in 3v3

[warped warren]

(with artji)

[fierce elm]

crazy gayming

[warped warren]

ikr

[solemn elm]

woohoo nice work

[urban skiff]

there's artificial and regular inflation. Every new player that joins the season and actually plays will inject more MMR into the system above 1500 if they drop below 1500.

[solemn elm]

who actually plays warrior in this channel

[fierce elm]

Yeah that is regular inflation

but generally when they say inflation they mean the artifical kind

[warped warren]

me 🖐️

sometimes

[fierce elm]

The ladder naturally inflates by player count and how high people get in general

[urban skiff]

When I say inflation I always mean all sources of inflation

[fierce elm]

However, when talking inflation in relation to the PvP ladder, everyone means the artifical addings

Yeah

But WoW is a huge game and not just you PAL

[solemn elm]

tuffed gnome in the west

nah facts afro!

[urban skiff]

just means there's a whole lot of people who are really really wrong then

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Also sort of just ignoring that part makes life a little bit better

because none of it truly matters

[solemn elm]

its also why getting 1600 feels really hard in shuffle

just capped at 2100

[fierce elm]

did it

[urban skiff]

Whether the inflation is artificial or not has no bearing on the game you play as an individual. All that matters is the sum inflation

[fierce elm]

: 3

[solemn elm]

not alot of rating to go around yet

for the peoples

[urban skiff]

I struggled way more to hit 1600 than I should have

on both enh and fury

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

I struggled the amount I expected

[solemn elm]

thats not your fault

just p much what i said + mmr reset

[urban skiff]

We're also only like 1300 in 2s

[lyric violet]

Wow that first lobby

shadow boomkin destro

https://giphy.com/gifs/benjammins-1000-yard-thousand-gz8AV7skS75VMAVEpq

[urban skiff]

unreasonable amount of losses in 2s for this result

[solemn elm]

LMAO enh is broken!

you should be owning

and having a play date zercher

with the wife

u should be excited to play

[urban skiff]

my wife is still adjusting to priest changes

[spice hornet]

How bro lol

[solemn elm]

ah well then that aint your fault

[fierce elm]

He is playing Enhance+Disc in 2s Qfiend

[urban skiff]

wife started out as voidweaver and she only just now swapped to oracle

many of our tactics that we had all of TWW relied on abilities i lost, like thunderstorm

I miss bullying rets with all the knockbacks

now i bully them by blending them

[lavish quest]

Lil Mud Jr appears

[fierce elm]

Qfiend buys TBC gold from MUD who buys TBC gold from chinese children

[solemn elm]

how dare you qfiend

[lavish quest]

Qfiend buying marked up gold, what an idiot

[rancid granite]

tried fixing this for u so u look like at least half a (wo)man

but you went from 2ft to 2.5ft

ill send you a race change token

[urban skiff]

We've had moderate amounts of gametime after season start 🙁

I also want to point out it's really hard to learn how to play 2s again when we face teams of players who have never been rival. Just a really bad opportunity to build a lot of bad habits.

[green anchor]

goes vulpera

[urban skiff]

flipflopping between blending someone in the first 20 seconds and then getting completely smothered by a MM hunter who knows his shit. No in-between with time and space to practice communications and develop tactics

[rancid granite]

still better than gnome, even if vulpera's are just gnomes who got put under a witch's spell

[wheat jay]

can we nerf warrior?

[warped warren]

[fickle forge]

Fuck that's sweet

[lavish quest]

If Flep went from Low T gnome to Furry Vulpera I'd have to remove him from my friends list and he's not even on my friend's list

[fierce elm]

open world, world buffs, berserker pot, berserker buff

[urban skiff]

please nerf arms, I want NG+++ experience

[lavish quest]

On a critter

[green anchor]

Nerf Arms & buff Subtlety

[lavish quest]

Meanwhile critting like 105k with proc rsk

In honor gear

[urban skiff]

How to reddit, title of post: "SUB ROGUE IS SO OVERPOWERED IT'S 66% OF THE LADDER!"

[green anchor]

avidance would be up there even if his rogue was bugged and couldn't choose a spec

[lyric violet]

you guys using plater?

threat plates is broken in arenas and who knows when it'll get fixed

[urban skiff]

BETTERBLIZZPLATES

[warped warren]

betterblizzardplates

[green anchor]

peterlizarddates

[solemn elm]

thank u :) i’m taller now

actually using betterblizzplates using magnuzs profile

[rancid granite]

thank u be sure to review my shuffle match when u can

[solemn elm]

i don’t even have vulpera unlocked ngl

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm hey I was thinking, people are stuck at 2100 rating. We know for a fact blizzard have planned at least two more balance passes. Is it possible they gate on MMR that they only lift once they've made sure no spec will cause irreparable damage to the ladder by being way out of line?

I mean it's been all of TWW too

[solemn elm]

like half of the allied races i don’t have unlocked

or do you have to unlock them now i forgot

[fierce elm]

who knows

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay is fat

[fierce elm]

It doesn't impact me

[urban skiff]

Seems like it's intentional and it would be something I'd definitely do as well if I were a game designer

[solemn elm]

sure friend i got you with a review after

[urban skiff]

it impacts me, I was planning to hit 2600 this weekend

[wheat jay]

I am

[solemn elm]

zercher will you hit 2600 this season

i want that for you so bad

[urban skiff]

I don't see myself going past elite I think

[solemn elm]

actually, sorry not will you YOU WILL

also never say never honestly

[lavish quest]

Zercher will put me to shame

[solemn elm]

i want all of you to hit insane pr’s

at the gym and in arena

[urban skiff]

Man my strength is just going down at the gym, from 155 to 142 bench now

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge but I think my deadlift got better after today's games

[urban skiff]

can't remember the last time i did a deadlift or a squat

[urban skiff]

Only if you don't behave

[copper fox]

Yes

There going to mega buff BM

Then fix it

[urban skiff]

BM already highest ladder hunter spec in shuffle

at least EU

[wheat jay]

Yo methyl, food for thought, i think spear on 1min cd would make warrior broken, thoughts?

Instant jump to s tier

[copper fox]

Yes it would

[fickle forge]

Yo methyl, food for thought, i think spear on 1min cd would make warrior broken, thoughts?
Instant jump to s tier

[copper fox]

Yo methyl, food for thought, i think spear on 1min cd would make warrior broken, thoughts?
Instant jump to s tier

[copper fox]

mm on US but that’s just a popularity thing. BM is worse than mm and survival rn

Not saying it’s bad

[wheat jay]

Cant rly gauge now

[copper fox]

But the others are def better week 1

[wheat jay]

Cuz plenty of people play 3s or blitz

[copper fox]

Yea

[wheat jay]

And ignore shuffle till ladder somewhat stabilizes

To check meta, and avoid noobs or r1s in lobbies

[urban skiff]

Wish seramate had a "hide duplicate players" button

[wheat jay]

Playing with competent people is so nice man

Thats why shuffle will never be as fun as 3s

[solemn elm]

yep

and thats why 3s is the best bracket bro

[urban skiff]

That's the secret sauce, I'm always the least competent player so I get the true 3s experience every shuffle game

[solemn elm]

hi streaming fury warrior gameplay twitch.tv/flippard

playing turbo

with a friend :)

[urban skiff]

Just bumble my way through the ladder

[solemn elm]

hpal

[copper fox]

Link?

Tf you think imma google you

Idc if we boys

[ebon steeple]

Can hpally even keep ya alive. Fury just kinda flops

[solemn elm]

fair

[ebon steeple]

Right now

[solemn elm]

https://www.twitch.tv/flippard

[wheat jay]

Still not accurate

[solemn elm]

yea, just have to get really good walls honestly

and they need to save you too

[wheat jay]

I like hearing kargish tell me he's spearing them so i can look for cc or interript on healer

[urban skiff]

Is accurate from my point of view. I suck, so they all adapt to playing around me

[wheat jay]

Or keep my kick on mage trying to do poly

I enjoy it

[fickle forge]

Highest ranked EU warrior rn is Blizo at 2k

[wheat jay]

He says he doesnt have trinket so I try to save him from smoke bomb

Its fun

[urban skiff]

oh shit, i need to clip something

[wheat jay]

Compared to solo shuffle being pure chaos, high dampening

Also @warped warren I had FULL faith in the spellwarden xD

Hands off keyboard

[urban skiff]

@solemn elm you should think about moving your chat at some point, so the chat cover doesn't cover your talents

[lavish quest]

[solemn elm]

wait wdym

im dumb

[urban skiff]

open up your talents inside

[solemn elm]

oh miyabi is blocking the little things

sorry

[rancid granite]

flep are you playing with a seal

[solemn elm]

unfortunately no seals around

just my best friend

[urban skiff]

A HAPPY SEAL????

[solemn elm]

i want to play with a seal though id love to

[rancid granite]

swear to god i heard a seal squeek but it might've been someone laughing

[urban skiff]

@copper fox

[solemn elm]

probably me LOL

in love with the happy seal

[urban skiff]

sup

[fickle forge]

This how @fierce elm and I communicate in 3s

[urban skiff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/willem-dafoe-4

[solemn elm]

happyseal is the reason why i win

[urban skiff]

Devourer
Enhancement
MW

[solemn elm]

LMAO

[worldly oriole]

its so over

down 130 on dh

in shuff

[urban skiff]

that's your mistake, you're supposed to go up, not down

[granite epoch]

arms unironically feels good in shuffle

at least not as bad as people make it out to be

really depends on the comp

[jovial torrent]

[stray frost]

Hi guys!
Could you please help me understand the reasoning behind this popular choice of talents in Fury tree? I've been exploring murlok.io and cant wrap my head around this: why is bleed on execute taken but not the 35% execute which should pair well with it?
Common sense (at least my common sense :) ) seems to indicate that execute deals decent damage so it should be the other way around, first to spend point in 35% execute range and only then specialize in bleed, why am i seeing the opposite?

[urban skiff]

click the icon on the talent pane on murlokio and it'll drop down a list of the top 5 players using the talent, click through them to see what other talents they pick

[copper fox]

Oooooo

[stray frost]

thanks, i did that, but still the question remains - it seems that when having 1 point and this choice, people tend to allocate that point to bleed. Both these talents affect only execute.

E.g. MUD does take the Wrath and Fury but still takes execute bleed.

I'm primarily interested not in why MUD takes Wrath and Fury, but why, when having 1 point left, he chose to put it in execute bleed and not 35% execute range

[urban skiff]

I vaguely remember something about the 35% execute talent having some sort of flaw

like bug related to how it deals damage

we'll have to wait for the smart people to answer that

[urban skiff]

@elfin surge wake up, buddy. The city needs you

[solemn elm]

uh wrath and fury just to be able to go down there

[worldly oriole]

damn

[solemn elm]

every one all still just experimenting honestly

[worldly oriole]

10 hours

of video games today

or something

[solemn elm]

but most of the builds are essentially the same

[wheat jay]

Sounds kinda ass ngl

Id take warr over enh cuz it shits on rogue, and rogue shits on dh

[solemn elm]

yea we lost on that just was tunneling enh too much

i am garbage

[north thicket]

does the Enduring Heliotrope work as intented? since the bloodstone had some issues...

[solemn elm]

of course, heliotrope works as intended

[north thicket]

cool

[solemn elm]

110k bloodbath on this mage

W

play fury

[lavish quest]

He says play WW, now he says play fury susge

[urban skiff]

enh shits on rogue too

like a lot

[solemn elm]

LMAO

[jovial torrent]

not for long with enhance nerfs comin and rogue untouched

[urban skiff]

Enh barely getting nerfed

There's whispers in the dark corners that we're getting a buff

Like +80% damage on crash might mean we suddenly have no bad globals left

[wheat jay]

Not as much as arms does lol

[urban skiff]

how does arms shit on them more?

[solemn elm]

parry, banner, disarm

etc

bladestorm

[stuck mulch]

had an awful enh in my last game

never switched when the monk healer had 0 things left

[urban skiff]

monk always has something for every enh cooldown

🙁

coco

not that I care, i've begun just killing the coco instead of swapping

that's what they want me to do

[jovial torrent]

most monks are running conduit, which makes cocoon like a 1 min cd

[urban skiff]

yea exactly

every doomwinds they coco

[jovial torrent]

id say go for a hex before u pop cd's, or just switch to the monk

[urban skiff]

a

[urban skiff]

I just kill the coco

[jovial torrent]

not worth it, its like a 400k shield

[urban skiff]

You say 400k shield

I say finally a target that lives long enough for me get some damage done

[jovial torrent]

^ damage is pretty f'ing stupid in solo shuffle

[urban skiff]

But 20k hp + 400k shield isn't much worse than hitting a target at full health

and they always coco low

[jovial torrent]

i keep catching myself literally ghasping and mashing my cd on ppl cus they go from 80-5% in a global

[wheat jay]

Instant cc, parry, intervene, disarm

Arms is #1 sub counter

[fierce elm]

Until he just dies through d-stance in opener

[urban skiff]

I get it, but cheap shot counters parry

[fierce elm]

and they force trinket from healer or the arms lmao

[wheat jay]

%wall stays

[wheat jay]

Thats where i come in

I can dash darkness

Fear

[fierce elm]

so dash darkness in opener lmao

[wheat jay]

Aoe stun

[fierce elm]

when you are too CC'd

[wheat jay]

Then he trinkets lol

[urban skiff]

feels like you should have come in earlier by getting rogue out of stealth. WHERE WERE YOU, BUDDY?

[fierce elm]

thus forcing him to trinket

whcih means no trinket for smokebomb

[wheat jay]

Sight bugs a lot lol

[fierce elm]

and sub can do absurd damage before smokebomb comes out

Ret is a MUCH better counter to rogue

[urban skiff]

Stops working when you take damage

[jovial torrent]

i miss being able to see kidney shot cd on omnibar

[fierce elm]

Because 3 CC breaks alonside sanc alongside wall being useable while stunned

[urban skiff]

but devourer has stupid long range on their purge, like 50 yards, so longer than any rogue can hope to shadowstep cheap

[wheat jay]

Yep

I like that

[jovial torrent]

ive not seen any devourers, they are all playing havoc and acutally do good dmg

[wheat jay]

Ye ye nerf ret i get you

[fierce elm]

: 3

[wheat jay]

I dunno i do a lot of dmg on devo

[jovial torrent]

switching to havoc is free 100 rating atm

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm check out that fear

[wheat jay]

Maybe but unironically i think with reverse and heal devourer will do better into rmp

[urban skiff]

also she painsupped before they used shadowblades or combust

idk why

[urban skiff]

switching to havoc is free 100 rating. But it's from 0000 to 100

[wheat jay]

Yall say that till i oneshot your asses

[jovial torrent]

so torn i kind of wana keep pushing to 1800 but its so slow, get a few 3-3 in a row gain nothing, then a 4-2 gain like 10

[lyric violet]

got 5 rounds woo

[vernal marsh]

so with 15% buffs and whatever bs they did to arms apex talent, is arms still viable in arenas?

[fierce elm]

define viable

[urban skiff]

then the 2-4 drops you by 35+ rating and it's like, you get a 6-0 after and then an 0-6 and now you're 100 below your starting point and you change your name to Tony and never do zercher squats

[wheat jay]

Arms thane?

Choppah bruh

[jovial torrent]

misread murlok it didnt switch over for some reason,

[vernal marsh]

if u line up a kill target and stun and hit the combo do they die?

[fierce elm]

No

[jovial torrent]

just saw that everyone was thane but it was showing fury peeps

[fierce elm]

play sub for that

[vernal marsh]

so my 3 stack rn with my friends we are both fury and holy paladin

shit ik but we’re friends, is being arms helpful for more antiheal or just go furythane at this point for warr meta

[jovial torrent]

fury

[vernal marsh]

damn that’s brutal

[wheat jay]

Cant wait for even more buffs

Gimme gimme blizz

Make devourer op as fuck

[jovial torrent]

they should nerf mw pala again, so its all rmp for sure

[urban skiff]

I want to go flick every person on reddit and elsewhere who whines about the current state of the game. We know Blizzard's balance plan and we know they think about the full picture and not just the first 3 days of the first season

[urban skiff]

I wouldn't mind RMP if they weren't so absolutely enervating to fight.

feel like you're making zero progress and spend so much time in CC. I want to play the game, not sit around and wait for my turn to do 5 seconds of something

[jovial torrent]

its mostly their opener i hate, its just free cus their whole team is in stealth

[urban skiff]

remove mage stealth

easy

[jovial torrent]

u should play healer zerch lol, u sit like 3x the cc of a dps

[urban skiff]

yeah, my wife is losing her shit in 2s over how much cc she's getting

I'm still adapting to it myself

[jovial torrent]

its not so bad against normal classes that have like a 30-45 sec cd stun, but against mages druids evokers rogues u will be quad cc every 16 seconds

[urban skiff]

I used to have grounding totem cooldowns shown like 8 different places on screen so I always knew where to look

give spammable cc charges

remove charges on start cast, not finish

[jovial torrent]

mw monk can atleast avoid trap cus u can tp while stuned

i feel like ez cc chains really need to be changed eventually, every class has a short instant cc that u can then cast ur spammable stuff into

like dragonbreath into sheep, druid stun/daze into clone, monk para into sleep

[wheat jay]

I 100% disagree

We had a game into rmp that was pure satisfaction

Good trading

Good cc, good peels

[jovial torrent]

upside is mage can actually die atm

[wheat jay]

Felt great to win that

[spice hornet]

Rmp games are fun til you lose to some bs

[spice hornet]

Frost can’t

[jovial torrent]

it dies easier than most others atm

no dmg reduction on invis/clones , just alter block and barriers

i wonder if we will see like feral lock sham at awc if they buff sham more, ez kicks on ray

[wheat jay]

The only bullshit is rogue doing too much burst

OR

Too many stuns

Nerf either

And its great and balanced

[jovial torrent]

honestly increase dr to like 20 secs lol instead of 16

might actually bring in some more healers

[wheat jay]

Ye that too

16dr was a mistake lol

[jovial torrent]

id like to see some stats, cus their plan was to lower cc duration for ppl with removing triple dr and lowering duration ,but i feel like as healer i actually spend more time in cc now

[exotic forge]

Bring back 18s DR

Thank u

[wheat jay]

Cuz they didnt touch spammable cc

XD

[jovial torrent]

did they nerf poly by 1 sec? cus for some reason ive had fire mages hit me with a 7 second poly

[lavish quest]

So right at the start?

[spice hornet]

Nah when you’re 7 mins in and they’re still immortal despite failing every go and then you get 70-0d in a dr cheap shot

[lavish quest]

I died on the inside, in the first 30 seconds, even if my character lived

[wheat jay]

Cuz you only play shuffle

Rmp in shuffle is pure tornent

[copper fox]

Remember when they thought they were making the game easier for new players

But turns out the game is harder than tww now

[wheat jay]

Haha

Yep

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/Y4bHI9nvPn

Welp, i'm not the only one who feels something is off with gcds.

[ebon steeple]

Ignore pain being on gcd is just awful

[jovial torrent]

i swear i do feel it somtimes on mage in pve when ur trying to dump winter chill stacks

[lavish quest]

Fury does not have this problem

[low cobalt]

i thought it was just my internet lag

regarding the gcd thing

[green wharf]

banner?

doesnt parry gets nulified with stuns or attacking from behind?

[jovial torrent]

probs talking about the berserker talent that 50% cc on ppl

[lavish quest]

I suck at shuffle it seems but crush it in 2s

[green wharf]

i suck at shuffle but i crush at 5s

if they brough back i would be glad for sure

[jovial torrent]

i used to love duels and 2v2 but after mop i cant stand it anymore

[idle falcon]

Yo sameee

2's is the bomb for fury rn

[lavish quest]

Nah, warrior still awful at 2s

But at least me smash

[solemn elm]

banner is berserker shout yea lol

sorry just used to it being warbanner

but that’s usually the make or break aswell other than fear

[lavish quest]

You ended stream abruptly unless I wasn't paying the best attention

I was also 2sing

[solemn elm]

yea i did i gotta go work

[lavish quest]

Night worker 😮

[solemn elm]

i need to have like an outro

was slamming

beat the skill capped people

but ww is easily the most obnoxious class in the game

other than sub

[jovial torrent]

https://youtu.be/KcT5ha-Pwc0?t=77 speaking off, look at this ww burst

[solemn elm]

just happened to me right now to my friend

as enhance

it’s pretty unreal

which is why me and leland have to play ww warr

[exotic forge]

friend asked me if you can delete someone in 5 sec as a warrior if you connect

I said no

he canceled his sub a minute later

[idle falcon]

Should've had mambo 1 hour version on

[lavish quest]

Flep will carry me to the promise land of 1300

[idle falcon]

I would too if i started playing wow

For the first time

[lavish quest]

If I'm not key spamming 24/7 this week I hit you up

[exotic forge]

Classic if you're a new player. If Retail, play with a friend who has experience with the game

[lavish quest]

Oh also I gave Mag's betterblizzplates a try, like it much better. I think next time I'll tweak the debuff size tho, he has them so tiny

[exotic forge]

Tiny, just like his gnome

[jovial torrent]

just popped up magnus stream his healer died in 1 sec to enhance ret

[lavish quest]

Not even an MS there

[solemn elm]

i actually really like it personally

feels really solid

[jovial torrent]

man shuffle f'ing sucks atm it feels like at higher rating

ppl are dieing too damn fast

[jovial torrent]

losin all i gained in 2 matches

i just die and they dont

[copper fox]

Blitz is 3k why is everyone qing shuffle

[jovial torrent]

i dunno, was really close to 1800 and was guna stop

but might just start q'ing blitz tomorrow

im tired of dh ret enha dk everywhere

[tawdry cradle]

Can someone clarify something for me please. At the start of the season all the colossus rbg players were going purely vers mastery but i checked again today and they are all going haste vers now. What changed?

[real briar]

LOVE getting ppl who afk in rbg

90k as a DK

[solemn elm]

you want to go haste vers mainly as arms, most people are vers mastery because fury is a lot better and they’re playing that

[latent fossil]

I see a lot of diff Fury talents being used

some people use leech, some don't

some people use the improved enraged regen, others don't

I need HELP

I'm 90 already, going to start pvping

[dusky parrot]

I want you

to take off your shirt

buy some red paint from home depot/lowes

and give yourself war paint

then buy two axes from the same location

and play fury warrior

when you get a kill, grab the axes and scream with all the power you can muster in your lungs

do that in THAT order

and you'll be a fury master in no time

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[dusky parrot]

telling you, it works

oh and you might be wondering

"after I scream I put down the axes and keep playing?"

no just keep screaming

keep screaming SO LOUD to alert your ancestors in Skyhold

when they hear such a potent battle shout they will descend upon your grime-encrusted gamer chair and fill your mind with the ancient arts of war and conquest

after being blessed with such a boon- THEN you can go back to playing fury warrior in PvP

[latent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

I'm going to follow the build @lavish quest pinned and if it doesn't work, I'm reporting him

[dusky parrot]

leland plays ret why the fuck are you taking that advice

hes actively trying to sabotage you to inflate his own rating gains

[latent fossil]

....

double mast weap or 1 mast 1 haste

🙁

[spice hornet]

[exotic forge]

So what's better

Devouring Bolt or Arcanoweave

[dusky parrot]

double mast = more dmg

mast haste = less dmg lil bit more fast

[latent fossil]

u went with?

[dusky parrot]

neither, I'm arms LOL

[latent fossil]

damn

[solemn elm]

arcanoweave feel better

and i’m double mastery weapons

some people are haste cause they play arms

[latent fossil]

Do you buy mast gear too? like chest, etc

[solemn elm]

ye

craft wrists and cloak with arcanoweave and buy helm and gloves with conquest and tier those up

[lyric violet]

holy shit please buff arms

this is fucking torture i have to switch theres just no way

[exotic forge]

gonna recraft my gear then

can afford it, just reached my ever first million gold

[ebon steeple]

Got the pinging ret again ;w;

[granite epoch]

Im about to just quit my warrior in pvp and just keep raiding in it, i feel infinitely more powerful and even mobile on my enhance shaman lol

played both to 1800 for mogs im bout to just shelve it

[spice hornet]

yeah warrior is still stuck in 2007

[ebon token]

hows fury doing in 2s? im definately doing something crazy wrong i feel like shit chasing mages around

[spice hornet]

good until you fight rogues and hunters

[ebon steeple]

This game was rough

[ebon token]

feels like every game to me, just chain CCd and chain kited

[ebon steeple]

The map is what fucked me

Any other and i would have been okayish

[solemn elm]

enh op

fury warrior sucks :D

nah i’m playing fury op but enh a lot more op

[solemn elm]

hit the other guy :)

[jovial torrent]

i need to record some footage cus i feel like doomwinds doesnt actually show up on minicc nameplates

[jovial imp]

Jerzi was slaving away for no wins

[jovial torrent]

atm im just listening for the wolf howl/hero sound

[ebon steeple]

Yeahhh

[quick lake]

Did our tier as fury get hot fixed. Could have sworn yesterday 2 set was 10% each and now it's 5%

Or am I just having a bad Mandela effect

[solemn elm]

nerfed in pvp by half

[robust hearth]

is there an add-on tht can display/track my strat/glad wins?

[robust hearth]

@copper fox are u playing hunter rn?

[copper fox]

Yes

Who were you

[robust hearth]

secret

[copper fox]

The ret

Got it

[robust hearth]

lol sure

[copper fox]

lol