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Slayer gaming?
Colo
Do embellishments matter? like, which ones u craft?
Lmfao
only for pve
Better craft those tools with heraldries quick
wait what?
I think literally enchanting inside a bg might be super profitable
anything that doesn't require a table
hmmm!!!
This is the cutting edge info we have you for Zerch. Good job
Always share secret tech
fixed that nonsense, let's make some money
do we still get free weps in midnight?
yes, third week
you get 1600 conq first week and +800 conq every week after
cool, im assuming we dont craft a wep then for early season?
I do, but I might use pve craft for that
SNUPY HAS A VIDEO
One that allows me to track buffs i want, not dumb cd tracker of fucking blizzard
Imma have to check
Ye but I want a separate bar
For externals and my buffs
So, blur, darkness, irobark, intervene
arcui lets you do that
it allows you to make as many bars as you want
HUGE
got the 2nd one now too
if you're good at counting
Nope
or if you use like a stopwatch macro for different cooldowns you can approximate it
Not any way I found anyways
I mean when used, not cooldowns of them
Grab a streamdeck, make the buttons all sorts of different length timers and hit the corresponding button whenever you see enemy use a cooldown.
like 1 min cd? Press button that sets a timer to 55 seconds
Yes
You just track their buffs with IDs iirc
this is built into base ui and snupy's video contains info on how to display i tbetter
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with arc ui u can just drag buffs outside of the box, so u can have individual buffs wherever u want
Get quick 1800 and chill
Betterblizzplates has it automatically
Nice
FDK looking mighty good
make sure in the tickbox to turn off dynamic bars, or itll try move your buffs to be in the center of the box
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00:00 - Intro
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02:30 - Bloody Tokens
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16:15 - Sockets
Best intro
Why devouring banding and not arcano weave @lavish quest
Did today give us any hope for arms
called it
been watching the limit streams, MM has been comfortably on top and in trash crazy ahead
MM snuck in there huh
Enhance time baby lmfao
Why you asking me?
@fickle forge made and pinned it
Anyways time to check out Frost DK
I don't know any of the embellishments and what they do yet
fortunately I have a warrior ready togo

It just gives main stat to you and ally
But again, all embellishments aren't huge powerspikes either
i think theres a good versatility one, and a similar one to the gem dmg where u just do arcane dmg to ppl
Arcanoweave? The cloth armor pieces?
It's not on Method's list ๐
huh
suck me
But either way, Idk how much stat it gives
Everything has been tested on beta though, so I'd just go with that
The only numbers I can find is that it is 2611 primary stat
which doesn't seem real lmfao
will mud stream solo shuffle this season
So there's no addons/WA's that currently display enemy cds (both defensive and offensive) correct?
unless they implement solo shuffle in tbc, no
no, you're gonna be fine
youll be okay but it was better to craft wrist and cloak to be able to put the embelly on it
and then make one ring
Im gonna check it out
If so imma log on quick xD
The WQ is up at least
Go
Let me know asap xD
eu?
yes
i saw this before but thought wrist/cloak were our conq items not crafted ๐
@fierce elm going there insta XD
i think thats how world bosses work, u get a warbound champ bit
you FOOL
its okay
lmfao
...
Warbound baby
ye cuz it resets
: 3
its a cool mog at least
bleh i got the same helm
lmfao
blegh
i dont have a leather character
oh well 2 free upgrades on helm that doesnt use crests
noone getting their items XD
share what it looks like
its supposed to be a catchup boss for alts
ugly asf
ah well i guess im just thinking of the old way killing the world boss is the move
that boss is up on NA too?
for a free piece
cant upgrade it like that ๐
sell these make a shit ton of money
no
the one for us isin eversong
that's the plan, buddy
I sold 52 and made 170k
always sell these day one baby
BIG money
the rep helmet u get is 1/6 champ might have better stats
so u can upgrade that to 3/6 for free
you cant
unless its your armor class
i checked xD
yeh but i meant for my war, tho i kind of dunno if il play war in pve
also, apparently dh devourer is just a dmg bot, a tier or b tier i dunno
voidstorm zone has like 15 second delay on abilities lol
lmfao
its a sign
got shit after my first one
why are you making two belts LMFAO
oh god s1 is so good already
lmfao
What the fuck
i dont think that non-gnome warrior is playable
You got no embellishments then?
He is probs just running the lens thing
You will drop avatar and you will feel good ab it
even with the lens it says
it powers up with every diff colored gems
idk if it works at all without them?
@fierce elm you're my goat, I trust you and only you, arcanoweave or devouring banding
bro don't trust me lmfao
yeh gemming seems alot kinder this season thankfully
what embellishments are best for rings? Lenses again probably?
and what do they say? my bad
Devouring
None
none?
You do it on cloak and wrist
Pins
Good change
duh me dumb ty friend
i assume yes, but this applies to arms and fury?
the BG quest has also been pushed early on EU
Yes
What is the significance of the belts?
prismatic focus lens x2 equipped
Tony fucked up and that is funny
thanks
what was their reasoning for hiding certain combat details, like how much damage you did to each target individually? What advantage could you glean from having that information?
oh, warmode stuff aint any better than honor
anyone done any arena as 2's on
I am playing with a disc priest, we have been 1800-2000 before, but we are getting coooooooked today
and we have never played this comp
Start of season so everything is reset now
so you are probably not facing true 1800-2k people
we even got beat by a mirrior once- but we might just suck. Just wondering if anyone has pushed 2s with a disc priest
I push 2s with Disc all the time... although push is a wild thing to say considering we kind of top out at 2100
arms/disc regardless of viability
I like it
its like double DPS. but I think priest is changed now so Idk how that would go. will report tonight
fair. I play fury, that might be part of it also
wait
theres a chance I'm facing higher rated people?
^^ what he said
ye mostly sweats first day pvp , normal ppl are doing their m0 world tour and weeklys
or jumpin in norm raid
Normal people should be queueing blitz : 3
it doesn't
yo what pieces are people crafting for fury
Its pretty up in the air still
It is either you craft rings+neck with Prismatic, or you can craft Wrists+cloak with devouring bandaging
though I have seen some arcanoweave
why no ring craft this time around

Devouring bandaging cant be applied to rings or neck
nor can arcanoweave
you have to mention the bandaging thing summons a dumb tentacle thing
nevermind fuck that
mmr check
zero
96 
they just hotfixed the pvp gems
cant put a algari and thalassiaj together
they turned them all to be thalassian gems now lol
Do you stack the embellishments?
yes
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yes
we only have 3 sparks this week? or am i missing a quest
Which ones did u stack
We have 4 sparks this week because of the Midnight Tour one
I am EU and not a warrior lmao
Reported
But the 'stack' thing will show 3 in your character panel
Highest team on NA right now is Prot Pal - MW - WW lmfao
so people crafting one weapon first?
This is #pvp brother
We don't spark craft here
??
oh no brother lmao
ive never pvped before
Aight fair
We use Heraldrys to craft in PvP
not sparks
So save the sparks for PvE stuff
remember to do fent
thank you
colo is more cleave
You swap around
and arms was buffed wasnt it?
its still cooked
rip
skillcapped put them both on A tier
15% buff
dont listen to afro he's a ret main
and still less dps than guardian druid
the most fried takes
do we craft thalassian competitor stuff?
we'll see tuning next tuesday
that is the PvP craft yes
arms warrior not the greatest
If you want to use your heraldrys to craft, then yes
15 minute games
so fun
the bis is crafting 2 belts apparently
Make sure it's strength, make sure it has two secondaries and not one
i feel like arms is so squishy in pvp
100 rating off elite set
everything melts me before I can reach my target
is ignore pain better than fueled by violence?
yes
yup, the good question now is it worth to spend a global for it 
NA beta testing going hard
yeah blizz did say like 'well give it 1 week of testing before more notes'
They always do that stuff
It's just that it tends to be the reverse
Damage is usually absurdly high
Gotcha, arms really struggles with gcd
for pvp the best stats are crit/haste?
Hell no
And versa first
Haste/Vers for Arms
grab Mastery on pieces you can't get Haste on
Crit is omeganerfed in PvP
Why does crit falls off on pvp?
sent my cloak order 1 hour ago, @fierce elm wtf are you waiting for?
Ah ok
So its Haste/Vers and if you can't get haste/vers then grab mastery/vers
Nothing dies lmao
true
Sounds like s tier pacing
games lasting a lifetime
AINT NOONE WITH THE CRAFTED WRIST
Voidweaver be cracking
(Never trust this man)
i got crafted wrist ๐
ty
what gem are people using for diamonds
i cant find anyone with it lol
Ring has no embellishment, right?
You need to add it yourself
There is probs a guide on how crafting orders work somewhere
isn't it cloak + wrist with devouring and 1 ring with gem?
You can do whichever way
I am just gonna slam rings+neck with prismatic lens
On like every character
prinsmatic 30k each ๐
which class do u play
So basically u are a plate homie
im rocking embelished wrist and cloak then ring as 3rd crafted
Did some rogue/ele/pres too
crafted wrist and cloak with arcano then make ring crafted buy cq gloves and helmet and tier them up
good to go
d:
which embelished did you go with?
devourer i think its called
devsator or something
look at you go
you get wrist, cloak and 1 ring
wrist and cloak - devour
ring - no embellishment (can only have 2)
so i made 2 rings and a cloak, didnt see the pin until after, if i bought gloves, what piece should i buy next? at cap im at 725 conq
prob still helm
what
You should have 1600 conquest
oh right so
which is enough for a 700 piece and a 875 piece
i accidentally bought another herald
rip
i could just craft the bracers
Boutta hit you with, either wait another week or spend it on another 700 piece
but im behind for tier
In the end it doesn't really matter
gems worth it yet?
define worth it
is there no 2 stat gems yet?
there are
flawless masterful
vers/mast gems with haste enchants?
Can't find a single person to craft me shit lmao
i had to fight off crowds after asking
drop a tip
I did, but south american realms are lazy af
I smell easy gold
what tier pieces are we aiming for, head, hands and what
E
just refer to this
and no 4 set
aw man okay i should just craft wrists then
that shit sucks
i feel like the drunks i served at the bar today were more cognizant than what i have scrolled through
I love season launch
i was just running off the same assumptions as last season ;;
i've missed this
fun part is people talking to each other
i'm surprised at the lack of unhinged pins
well its annoying being stupid i think
Tony crafting two belts is so fucking funny
tony no'
send over the other belt
i mean i'm about to craft/buy a bunch of crit shit so i have near no room to talk lmfao

what is the obsession with crit
ask bliz
Bless is a crit-enjoyer
i did they nerfed crit damage by a ton
i've not noticed it with how much crit damage they keep forcing into arms
: )
Bless does not care about what is good or optimal
Shit has me dying hard
Such a Tony moment
lmfao
โCan I scrap one of them?โ
It is literally Tony as a person
No way
Did he?
Last time I fought Tony it was my 6th warrior alt and he got dropped in a DR stormbolt
At 2100
He did

@novel crater you shouldโve just put a totem down in the ground or something last I saw someone do that Tonyโs graphics card seized up and he was standing still for 10 seconds mid arena
Petkick going 100% winrate except versus Prot/WW/MW lmfao
there is no blacksmiths able to make my shit on wra im gonna explode
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feel that
ill even buy the recipe for them mannnn
im 1-10 trying to get my boys up ENJOY IT lmao
2200 to 1700 in less than 1 hr its a record
LMAO
how do I play arms on pvp?

I get cc'd once and I`m out
Have a healer with ya, don't throw away trinket, do damage, stance dance
You use d-stance when you think you are going to take massive damage
It is very 'feel'
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance
but its not called berserker on arms i dont think
got you homie
thats what you do
:D
but being realistic you can copy the build that is pinned and just give it a shot
not going to be too great
when youre taking a bunch of damage just press d stance when you are going to do stuff with colossus smash before you do anything just swap back out
i got most of the recipes but ain't no one providing mats
the absolute disrespect
im starting with d stance before i can do something, when i get to someone i swap and actually try to do damage
its working for me
but thats whats warrior is even in fury this will happen
its just to get used and have the knowledge when you use what
hooooly, selling the shoulder recipe is 45k atm
im just gonna do that and farm some honor lmaoooo

thanks for the advice, people
watch it live lmao
I'm focusing on stance dancing and it's helping a lot
Gotta climb that learning curve
Zelowrath hit me up for 3s earlier. I ignore him removed him from btag.
Told me we were gonna queue tbc 3s then I asked after waiting all week and he goes โyou played with someone elseโ
Watching Santi lose instead of sleeping ๐
Was a ret main until last week so my brain is developing now
Santi losing to Tony is mega sus. 
so confused whats the context
its Santi
the 2 rings can't have the embellishment
Tony is a 2100 player Santi is mglad warr
who?
lol im 24/50 (basically glad)
Handsome young fella
24 wins 50 losses?

he comes here sometimes and share wisdom

OOOF santi beatin flokko
all the warriors fought each other today i saw it
except for me im just yerkin it
Enlight me @lavish quest
lardos fought flokko santi fought flokko lardos fought santi

Thus can't craft rings or neck for embelly
even for me
then wouldnt be better to save 3 heralds, buy one next week and craft a belt?
I'd just prefer to have the brunt of my gear day one
chat moved too fast and i just waked up
None of this truly matters eventually
Does life matter
How is arms vs fury looking in pvp now with s1 start lads
who could have prdicted that
So its still a "dont touch arms" season so far
yes

Meh
Man, cant wait to get hated on in soloq and not get invited into dungeons
Its tbc all over again 
Im not sure blizz reads any topics. Unless its mage. For some reason they really like mages.
not evem his char
sure buddy
sus screenshot
wow nice
show your entire screen
new mount is sick
they should change it to first 500 of each class
, i bet by the time i wake up all 4k slots are gone anyway
my plan is to blast wsg brawl with the bonus 50% honor
lmao right
just the tryhards
no more blood token farm

honestly im glad lol, hated getting it and messing around mixing it in, id just prefer if we were uncapped a little faster
kind of annoying pve gear works in arena too, cus i dont plan on playing pala in pve to get myth track stuff that would speed up gearing
Brewmaster detected
Opinion rejected
That was for today
and it still sucks got it
It feels nice, but it doesn't change the fact that it's fucking Warbreaker
i gotta say i am not having fun as arms lmao
i think i might actually switch to fury which i cant stand but this is not great.
Started strong, now I'm going back and forth 
well ele is absolutely busted atm
Enh is
Everything but warrior is
650k in 4seconds is a bit wild though
embellishment rank dont matter right?
no, only for crafters
dope
speed or leech shoulder ench?
Speed
holw it be
I could do it on arms and youd say arms abuser
Be so fr
Do it on arms then
no ๐
exactly n00b
can someone explain why we even bother with crafted armor? why not just full conquest + set?
Embellishment and you get conq pieces earlier
So instead of just having head+gloves this week, you now have head+gloves+cloak+wrists+ring
and 2 embellishes
gotcha, i assume we replace them with conq later down the road?
ohh the embelishment makes it pvp scale up?
Yes
They add some stats/damage, nothing absurd
but its also free extra stats/damage
So yeah, either don't craft and be 3 pieces behind and no embellishment
or craft and have 5 pieces of conq when you have capped week 1
How we going for stats as fury? same as before? 20% haste and rest mastery
25% verst
Going even Mast/Haste seems to be the play
Stupid question is slayer not viable like the damage gap from thane is so big? the slayer ones are at the bottom smh 1.1k
the gap between the two are huge
slayer is atrocious
got it il force myself to use mountain thane then haha
able to pick the stats you want conquest gear doesnt have all of the gear with the right stats for some classes
aswell as getting pieces sooner
how are people socketing both bloodstone and new heliotrope?

it's a bug
fucking hate this bg
do the devourer bandings embellishments stack? like do i wana have 2 of them on my gear
yes
thank you!
you could say, he is ... limited
@exotic forge
the amount of arms warriors doing shuffle is kinda sad
if you wanna minmax
is it alot or not many
it's actually one of the biggest nerfs we got in prepatch
rally is also still broken
doesn't give the full amount of hp in pvp instance/combat
nicee mw is best healer by quite a bit and hpala 2nd, lets hope hpal dodges nerfs
its just awfull to do any bg like this
how on earth is there a fury warrior with 2k rating atm while everyone else is at 1800
blitzz gonna be a fucking hell
man this is rough
sub and mw looking like kings of the ladder atm
even thematically this shit sucks
people freeze you and you get trapped in vines
but you cant use strenght to break free
rank 1 arms 1500, rank 1 fury 2k 
fuck this game
they should use that quest feature they love to use where u have to pull a root 15 yards to break it
Yeah it feels awful lol
i just can't seem to do damage as fury
ur playin thane ye?
still eu so havent got to feel it for myself ye but just make sure to stick to one person and not flip between
also just mount upto someone instead of charging
tclap should slow ppl
k
nice
that's an absolutely massive amount of gold saved
dayum
we dont use sparks for any pvp items right?
ah ok, ty!
won't it go to myth track?
do we get a tier piece from pvp this week?
how do we get it though?
so pvp gear is now just way ahead of everything else forever?
Get 1600 rating on any bracket = one free catalyst charge
Plus the one you get from npc
Nope
ty
why did blizz make ret and dk ranged classes -_-
stuck waddling around after a fuckin dude on a horse all game
and enhancement and survival
almost like it's not a special thing anymore
Well maybe they should give arms extra long arms so I can hit at range
Cus itโs lame af
Longer sword
Rogue, ww and warrior are the only melees in game lol
green hearaldry's are still sellin for a bit
very lucky
not that hard not gonna lie just gotta play and do good stuff
and its still early its like day 1 dont stress abt it
it was moreso just the fact every other class has ppl only at 1800 atm, rogue is the closest with some 1900 ppl
wonder if his q's are long af already
let's go
Shouldโve been the red and black
what did yall end up crafting for embellishment gear
man i made like 60k just craftin boots, belts, wrists, and shoulders
could've probably made more selling the recipes though

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=257194/artisans-consortium-flyer#starts how do you obtain this item?
win a bg
i saw cloak and bracers but i read people crafting different items. just wanted to what everyone else did
i did make shoulders and wrists but do your own thing or follow a guide imo
@lavish quest if we are getting bloodborne shouldnt we get cold steel hot blood as well?
even deep wounds, or its just that we cant spare the talents
Fury still bad after buffs in pvp?
ye
better than arms though
how come i cant check the tier set for this season on the adventure guide
yeah i hate it
got it pulled up so i can see what pieces i want to get tier
finally, time to get that one fucking achievement done

so the worst tier is chest
depends how much you want haste, don't it?
If you're like oldschool sub rogue/feral who wants as much mastery as possible, even low stat is superior to no stat
No
Yeah I'm not going for that
Fury Build
Note: Kill or Be Killed Talent can be removed and put into something else.
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Took the build from the MUDs

wat
you cant drop bombs without explaining them
What is you on about?
giving up deft experience, rage drinker comtempt, getting deep wounds
also crushing force, wasnt fury BT spam?
i seek understanding 
Thoughts on what we do with bloody tokens? I was thinking tier pieces
are any that much worth other than trynd ult?
Fury or Arms now?
this WSG scramble is just ugh
all the grips, all the runners, all the immunes and freedoms
I hear 2v2 is full of sub rogues right now, do I go feral or sub?
You stay brown and beat that yellow pancake batter up
im sooo not looking forward to early blitz games bruhhhh
me too

which one of you fuckers is this
man those 100k aimed shots hurt
MM sure took their vitamins
is armorsmithing bugged? tells me in order to put in an embellishment i need armorcrafting but mine is learnd
what to craft w/ the [Galactic Gladiator's Heraldry]?
did you read the pins?
They might be right, they might be not right
man the rshams are losing it
@urban skiff 1 million gold today angle?
2-handers crafts, PvP crafts, new spark crafts
is colossus or slayer gonna be better for pvp?
today is farming rating and stuff for me
Thane
I wish
I have 4+ characters that needs conq
But everyone crafting today
for arms I mean

Idk i was messing xD
@urban skiff i might queue 3's with pugs while i advertise
Honestly I don't even need the gold lol
I sub with irl money
And when i run out i buy token
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Run out of gold i mean
Just to have some gold
I do it for the love of the game
same
Actually I might just play PvP and complete weeklys
it ate a bit of gold to be able to craft for afro
Cause everyone working
but it's fine
xD
I craft for Critcake
Last xpac every single crafted item he had was from me xD
can i have 2 of thopse_
where are they from?
auction house
no, i mean what crafts them? I assume tailoring or lw?
idk
leatherworking
no, I did not - haha - sorry. Where can I see them? ^^' Pretty new to all of this, just used discord like teamspeak / voice chat
press this ๐
every channel has its own set os pins
Ah got it! Ty ๐ โค๏ธ
Nice, sparks of war can be done with only 5 world quests / rares instead of grinding out 10
not bad start of season
my gold is mot gone
caus ei bought some tokens
and i cant farm more until we get gold wq again

idk about that, I make a lot of gold right now
doing nothing
I mean I just pvp and loot boxes
Sell Galactic heraldries, earlier today then insta sold at 4k but now they're down to 900g a pop
its too early to get up and que
Weak
gala do you have these yet?
lmao, check this fucking chad out. 3x jewelry with haste/mastery. Just skipping that vers
it's boe greens
m8
it's not for you, it's for idk
but they sell insanely well always no matter where in the season you are
but before they were on the same ilv as honor
why they are lower now?
they never were
Blue was honor level
green was 13 ilvl under honor level
blue was the bad ones
green was the honor
i remember blue was like the same ilv the ones you get from the world quests

@fickle forge hey i have a really good question about why we craft wrist+back over 3x jewelry
we going to get a free neck after the quests
but i do not know why not 2 rings
If it's about getting embellishments that don't fit on jewelry, that's fine? but we can still craft those pieces as honor and not be any worse off
apparently cant have 2 rings
with embelishments
yea i know, but you can still put embellishments on honor crafted gear
don't have to make conq gear
but why would you do that
so you can still have 3x crafted jewelry and 2x embellishments with zero downsides
if I really want crafted jewelry, it makes sense
no more complicated than anything else
It's just 5 crafts instead of 3
Hell I have to craft a honor weapon on feral just to not have unnecessary crit
or I guess I can buy bloody token weapon
what emb should i put on ring
whats the go to haste for s1 as fury?
laros said in his video to stack mastery but has mainly haste pieces in armory
thanks
what is the PvP cloak called
Ask
why are we doing it again? I know embellishments only go on armor pieces, but we can still craft them as honor and keep our cool crafted epic jewelry for better secondary stat control?
Or is it a case of needing the extra vers from conq jewelry that we don't get with crafted jewelry?
It's just for your embellishment
You still get your secondary stat distribution if you spend your last 3 heraldries on a ring
yea but conq jewelry has secondaries weighted heavily towards vers
I have none
what did u craft
o-o
I'm still gearing up and getting heraldries out of the way and testing stuff out with wife in skirmish




