pvp

[warm plinth]

call up ion hazzy wazzy

[boreal veldt]

it really doesn't make sense, i should be whirlwind if anything

[fierce elm]

But yeah 12.0.5 is when they launch the new content

[boreal veldt]

like why keep it on two single target abilities

[fierce elm]

which ISNT the 17th patch

its gonna drop like halfway through the season

So we still waiting on 17th notes

[boreal veldt]

well whatever drops on 17th better justify nerfing colossus practice strikes by 5%

[fierce elm]

So these notes are not set in stone either

[boreal veldt]

well of course, and it could also be a typo

[fierce elm]

Yeah these are always fucky wucky

[boreal veldt]

i feel like the patch notes leading up to release were very typo ridden and wonky

[fierce elm]

They tend to be

or its a ton of random info that doesnt say anything

[exotic forge]

Wait wait wait

Festering Scythe is gone??

[warm plinth]

no

[fierce elm]

Naa other Scythe

I fumbled the notes

[exotic forge]

Oh thank God

[fierce elm]

Was reading them at work with my boss watching me

[elfin surge]

arms pve chat is not happy

[fierce elm]

But unless they change scourge strikes then DnD is still dead

[fierce elm]

Is any PvE chat ever happy?

[boreal veldt]

i dare not venture into that den

are they gonna shut down arms disc?

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[exotic forge]

https://i.imgflip.com/amgm6l.gif

[elfin surge]

they want to change arms channel name to meme spec

[boreal veldt]

[fierce elm]

Cant wait for the arms rework in 12.1

right guys

[elfin surge]

[exotic forge]

stop

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

right

[exotic forge]

Get some help

[green wharf]

yo i actually got sad by this

[boreal veldt]

after this last rework i don't want them to cook anymore

[green wharf]

it was ONE thing that made arms fun

you execute and reap

[boreal veldt]

i'm tired grandpa

[green wharf]

i got so many kills in bgs with that

[exotic forge]

It's a headscratcher for sure

[fierce elm]

I always love some beautiful overreaction to a content patch that has 4 months to change

: )

Favorite time of the season is when changes get introduced

[green wharf]

it seems like its a normal reaction for removing something cool

[exotic forge]

I'm actually curious, I don't think that RtS change was on my bingo card

[green wharf]

that did not make any sense

[fierce elm]

Every PvE channel up in angry arms

[boreal veldt]

nice

[fierce elm]

Thanks man worked hard on it

[green wharf]

there is already people coping saying those are good changes actually

[fierce elm]

People liking stuff I dont like 😠

[solemn elm]

awesome

[green wharf]

@lavish quest can we ban afro

[solemn elm]

reap the storm was the only thing doing damage in beta

[exotic forge]

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS ON MY BINGO CARD

[solemn elm]

rip

[fierce elm]

THIS IS PTR NOTES

NOT TUNING NOTES

[exotic forge]

I know

but it's still hilarious lmao

[fierce elm]

DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE BINGO

WW already getting their apex reworked

[exotic forge]

MS effect on Slam was not expected tho

[fierce elm]

Yeah idk what that even changes

Like why

lmao

The spec has been so cleave-pilled for so long

AoE slam incoming

[exotic forge]

I'm not opposed to it but it's also weird

[green wharf]

apparently the spec was not awful in aoe

[boreal veldt]

they realizing how many eggs they threw into the cleave basket

[green wharf]

so they had to nerf aoe

[fierce elm]

WW to get stacks so slam aoes

sounds like a spec I know

[exotic forge]

What does that remind me of

Hmm

[fierce elm]

Yeah I am so furious I cant figure it out

[exotic forge]

This makes me fearful for next Tuesday

ngl

[fierce elm]

Eh

Expecting tuning notes tomorrow

[boreal veldt]

as long as tanks and healers get gutted i'm ok

guardian druid btw

[green wharf]

osh shit, the notes are likely tomorrow or today

imma take a nap early so i dont miss it

[fierce elm]

Tomorrow probs

[sterile moth]

Arms, top damage?

[boreal veldt]

[south hemlock]

Yes kill gdruids and dks overall

Even if frost is mid I just want them all to suffer for unholy

[sterile moth]

Yeah, in skirms arms has felt ok. In bgs it doesn’t feel very good

[boreal veldt]

slayer arms is still bad though

[south hemlock]

Don't worry about it man we got prop hunt coming to the game

[boreal veldt]

prop hunt unironically gonna be better pvp content than they released with

[elfin surge]

disc priest btw

[boreal veldt]

jesus lmfao

[elfin surge]

peak game balance

tanks and healers eating well

[green wharf]

[south hemlock]

Is fistweaving still doing top damage and healing rn

[boreal veldt]

yeh

most healers are aboslutely doggin right now

not rsham

had to use a canon in voidstorm to kill an rdruid

[haughty jewel]

Healers are op rn

[boreal veldt]

says alot when a class requires an orbital ion canon

[green wharf]

[spark pilot]

Is this arms? You’re still doing so much damage

[elfin surge]

Death wish fury

[spark pilot]

That’s no fun

[south hemlock]

Fury is fun wym

[spice hornet]

Buddy almost lost to bots in TG

[spark pilot]

If you like winning

But if you want to be a man

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[worldly oriole]

Arms but put a S at the front 💪

[spark pilot]

That makes no sense

[worldly oriole]

Sarms bro

🏋️‍♂️

[south hemlock]

More like Spain without an s

[spark pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/sandsten-world-of-warcraft-casting-couch-casting-couch-gif-20197999

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[elfin herald]

arms ST was so bad that cleave was better, so with that conclusion they decided to nerf AoE

betarms warrior

rename the spec

[fierce elm]

For the 12.0.5 patch*

[south hemlock]

Yeah I'm curious what the upcoming tuning is gonna be. Weird that they post future tuning BEFORE the next one

[fierce elm]

they usually release ptr notes at this point

Since its based on when PTR is available

Tons of new stuff they want to be tested etc etc

[sterile moth]

Nothing is Joever!

[balmy solar]

The ptr notes, right? Yeah, kinda hoping it's post changes after this tuning pass. If not the changes seem pretty mild

[fierce elm]

It is

way past this tuning

[balmy solar]

Some tell Blizzard that healers make hp bars go up. Not down

[elfin herald]

pve chat going wild

[sterile moth]

Triple healer 3s teams dominating the bracket

[spark pilot]

Hate that for me

[jovial imp]

Did fury just get more buffs than arms

[jovial torrent]

instructions unclear, we have made it so if a healer is targeting an enemy their healing spells now do damage to them aswell

[fierce elm]

Fury hanst gotten anything

nor has Arms

because its a PTR patch for 12.0.5

[elfin herald]

they arent that dumb to put those changes live

[spark pilot]

I swear blizzard games have the most unhinged fanbase

People losing their minds over these PTR notes

[digital badge]

ok i might try arms cuz maybe arms will get major buffed

any1 got a talent build

[fierce elm]

Yeah because people forget to do basic thinking OR doesnt know that PTR patches arent live tuning patches generally

[worldly oriole]

fully honor geared on ww/dk/hunt/dh

m0 done for the week on mage

[jovial torrent]

is m0 personal loot or need greed

[tribal wedge]

personal

except for the housing item ahah

[green anchor]

https://fixupx.com/Herotherogue/status/2031775988523393169

Rat with a knife🐀 (@Herotherogue)

We used to have in game GMs and actual staff that loved MMOs and gaming like @holinka and @ckaleiki and now we get an AI generated post that forgets an entire class (druid), while simultaneously referring to mail armor as "chain" AND shaman is leather? Bliz just does not care

Quoting Metaphors (@Metaphorswow)
︀
At this point it's on purpose

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[worldly oriole]

Pvp community is cooked

[green wharf]

[green anchor]

they don't even know their own game

so they have to employ AI

[fierce elm]

Chain

[green anchor]

Shaman will wear Leather when season starts

[jovial imp]

Druids lobster too buttery

[exotic forge]

I like how they're tagging Holinka as if he still works at Blizzard

[green wharf]

he is talking about how past devs are better

and tagged him

[exotic forge]

That's funny because I remember Arms being terrible during WoD

it's come full circle

[jovial torrent]

its a repeat of wod tbh, a pve prune that wasnt thought out in pvp as much

[green wharf]

[worldly oriole]

XD

[plucky cave]

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[exotic forge]

wait

what the fuck

It's Cleave and Whirlwind, not Bloodthirst and MS LMAO

no wonder people are losing their shit

[plucky cave]

who the hell are doing these balance changes

how fried are they

[green wharf]

yeah is slayer is dead for pvp

[spice hornet]

What are they doing to arms man…

Who is in charge of that specs design? Wow

[scarlet trout]

I need a hispanic

Do we have any hispanics

Not syeg he doesnt count

Hes brasilspanic

I need to know good soap operas or something entertaining to watch in spanish that uses real world vocabulary and shit so no fantasy shows where its mostly talking about swords and magic and stuff

Im falling behind as fuck in my spanish classes and nothings workingn

Im lowkey trying this as a last resort cause ive gone to office hours and done flash cards and everything

[green wharf]

[scarlet trout]

You speak portuguese not spanish

Thats why you dont count

[plucky cave]

la casa de papel

[exotic forge]

That's lowkey racist

just sayin'

[scarlet trout]

Not at all racist wtf

people from brasil arent hispanic right

Where does hispanic end and something else begin

like you move upwards on a map from like mexico long enough and you’re gonna stop saying you’re in a hispanic region right

Am i tripping

[plucky cave]

ait boi, i gave you a show, now calm down

[solemn elm]

brazil is in south america my guy

[spice hornet]

Are you not like, spam memorizing the random sets of words and conjugations you get each week or two

[scarlet trout]

Reviews look good

[scarlet trout]

Theres like 200+ words a week

And ill memorize them all and go into a test and blank

Foreign languages gotta be one of the hardest classes out there

[low cobalt]

hahahahaha

[scarlet trout]

Isnt the spanic part of hispanic as in like spain and conquistadors and their former like colonies

[spice hornet]

Nah Spanish is freelo

[scarlet trout]

Did spain have an influence on brazil

Lowkey no idea

[scarlet trout]

Only if you’ve got spanish friends bro

My friend knows a bunch of guys at his work and hangs out with them and shit and he finds it freelo too

[exotic forge]

the correct term is Latino

[green wharf]

[exotic forge]

Because Brazil's in Latin America

Hispanic is usually for people who speak Spanish or have hispanic heritage

Normally it's associated with Spain

No, don't associate Latin America with Spain

[solemn elm]

when ur education on hispanic ppl and south america is learned from instagram reels that tends to happen

[plucky cave]

but are they trolling

[green wharf]

[plucky cave]

where are they pulling these numbers from?? how can they think MS needs nerf??

[wheat jay]

you do know that this is not the full tuning were getting on 17th, right?

[dusky parrot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[scarlet trout]

See

I knew it

I was right

@solemn elm

Brazilians are not hispanic theyre latino

All hispanics are latino but not all latinos are hispanic

[plucky cave]

if you believe they will buff arms you are smoking more than blizz

[wheat jay]

just wait

[scarlet trout]

Saw an arms warrior in world content the other day

i asked him if he was doing ok

I said arms warriors are on suicide watch so i have to check in

And he said “winter arc” and flew off

[ebon steeple]

TRUE

We'll come back stronger

just wait

Just have to tough it out

[plucky cave]

see y'all in wow 2

[wheat jay]

bye

[fierce elm]

I love that the comeback wasnt ”My bad G” but rather ”You are smoking”

[wheat jay]

lmao

[exotic forge]

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm want a whiff?

[fierce elm]

of what

[wheat jay]

smoke

[fierce elm]

no lmfao

[wheat jay]

whatever im smoking more than blizz

[fierce elm]

I am moreso wondering why they want DnD to be an ability

[wheat jay]

,mmmmm

[fierce elm]

when they want to move away from ground-placed abilities

[wheat jay]

i dunno

bro i channel 3sec void ray every 2nd ability xD

[fierce elm]

Yeah thats a channel

[wheat jay]

3s

[fierce elm]

Not a ground-placed ability

they wanted to move away from that with every change

then suddenly

"YOU WILL USE DND"

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/jjj-gif-22597437

[exotic forge]

Who the hell uses DnD anyway

[fierce elm]

Nobody

it's literally a hated ability

and was purposefully made now so it isn't a 'requirement' in rotation

[exotic forge]

The slow is nice

[fierce elm]

Now they are tying some CD reduction into it for Putrefy

which is our highest damage ability

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[fierce elm]

Nobody knows

because its such a dated ability that is so iconic that it's weird to remove flat out idk lmfao

[exotic forge]

I only remember it being good once when Dk's were broken

[fierce elm]

Oh well

Gonna see what happens in 12.0.5

[wheat jay]

blizz removed plenty of iconic abilities

so its bullshit argument

dumbo blizz

[wheat jay]

lmao

[sand sundial]

theyll prob add em back later

will we play then, we'll see lol

[wheat jay]

well, clones got removed O_O

[idle falcon]

Do u guys think the next April fools update is just going to be warrior buffs

Everything else just silly comments

[dusky parrot]

that would be the cruelest joke ever

[idle falcon]

That obv it's an april fools joke

But go to warrior

Just good buffs and tuning issues

XD

[dusky parrot]

it shouldnt even be difficult to realize

that not even in pve or pvp is arms remotely good

I find it awfully hilarious how arms has 12% armor pen like 10% of the time if youre lucky with procs, but rogue has 50% armor pen constantly with find weakness that refreshes on combo point spends. And thats the least op part of their kit going into midnight

oh wait sorry

it IGNORES 50% of armor.

[exotic forge]

My favorite April fools joke is always gonna be "slaps roof of Bladestorm You can fit so many blades in here!"

[worldly oriole]

damn just found a 1999 holographic Charizard on my attic steps

[boreal veldt]

fucking love you tony

[worldly oriole]

blaistoise card too

[wheat jay]

xD

[boreal veldt]

warriors be doomin
tony out here just thriving

[lyric violet]

Bro they trolling with those patch notes

[boreal veldt]

be patient, we'll be fine, always are

Warriors remain handsome and jacked

[solemn elm]

you can probably sell that shit for a good bit

[worldly oriole]

yeah i read that

blasitoise is worth money too

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

shush you handsome bastard

[exotic forge]

I'm always handsome because I stay winning despite the odds

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS

I'LL WIN

[dusky parrot]

bladestorm should turn my mortal strike into mortal throw, where I just chuck my weapon right into an elf's cranium

[fierce elm]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/void-tier-2-recolors-from-void-assaults-in-patch-12-0-5-purple-judgment-finally-380764 YOO

[wheat jay]

Looks good

[fierce elm]

That Ret paladin reroll looking mad juicy rn

[jovial torrent]

in a alterac valley and apparently im not in a raid and have no raid frames to heal ppl with the error unavailable in story mode

[fierce elm]

Like damn

DAMN

[spark pilot]

Bet this set alone has made blizzard more money than starcraft

[sand sundial]

Warrior one looks pretty good too

[fierce elm]

You mean a free set

[spark pilot]

nah

i mean subs

[fierce elm]

yeah probably

[spark pilot]

i honestly resubbed war within last season just for that 1800 warrior set

[fierce elm]

the DK one aint bad either

[spark pilot]

Evoker getting good sets is still the best fuck you blizzard has ever done

[green wharf]

could be darker

[fierce elm]

ya

but I also love purple sets

[worldly oriole]

I cant believe bliss released visions again in war within

[hearty vault]

Does this Discord still exist? Will it continue after Blizzard removes the Warrior class?

[green wharf]

yes

[wheat jay]

They already removed warr and discord is still here

[green wharf]

cause this has become the dk discord a long time ago

[hearty vault]

If we change the warrior's color from brown to pink, will Blizzard buff him in PvP?

[north thicket]

How many dead talents has Slayer in 12.0.5 pvp

Wrong answers only

[torn sigil]

zero

[hearty vault]

yes

[lavish quest]

All of them

[fierce elm]

Get on PTR and try it out : 3

[sand sundial]

Honestly the Diablo promotion sets they released I still use that one

[fierce elm]

I know

[green wharf]

everything that look bad is good actually

[fierce elm]

I can't seem to find that in the post

weird

[north thicket]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/1205-slayer-arms-sudden-death-change-is-a-horrible-decision/2270878/3

[green wharf]

im not saying anything about the post

weird

[fierce elm]

Oh well, pray to the Blizzard gods that they will do something

THEN WHO SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Exactly lmao

Idk what they are doing with every spec though

it isn't just warrior that is getting some very fucking weird PTR notes

So thankfully everyone can bond during this trying time

Keep in mind that Whirlwind/Fervor don’t trigger the Apex either, so those points are practically dead.

this is my favorite part lmfao

[spice hornet]

I Farmed Mud in 2s Before

[hearty vault]

Don't worry, they'll increase the warrior's damage %, ignoring how awful its design has been in recent years (and getting worse all the time), avoiding angering PvE players, and that's it. Meanwhile, we have to forget about using the warrior in non-3v3 situations.

[fierce elm]

The PvE people are also angry

very angry

[hearty vault]

Yes, I know, but PvE = DPS, and while they're at the top they'll ignore the crappy mechanics design, which affect them more in PvP

[fierce elm]

Yeah idk about that

Aint nobody going to like being top DPS by spamming whirlwind

[hearty vault]

Maybe, and being useless to assist on Mythic+.

I think it's better to request a "class change service (1 per expansion)" for those who want to forget the time spent maining warriors.

[green wharf]

Hard to bound in F tier

[fierce elm]

You and Havoc can kiss together

[green wharf]

https://i.imgflip.com/amgm6l.gif

[hearty vault]

I checked the US warrior forum, and there's a player who seems to be in every thread always defending Blizzard's warrior design. Is he being paid, or does someone connected to him work at Blizzard?

[fierce elm]

He probably just likes the way Blizzard is designing Warrior

Weird take I know

[warm plinth]

what a moron

[fierce elm]

Probably lmfao

[exotic forge]

Bet he's one of those who thinks WoD had the best Warrior class design

Like yeah, probably for him and the other guy who played Arms back then, holy shit

[hearty vault]

In which expansion do you think the warrior had its best design? Considering the state of the other classes. Wotlk?

[fierce elm]

Purely PvP?

Shadowlands

[green wharf]

i think i know who you talking about

[ashen crypt]

its the same kind of ppl that defended arrowhead and their shitty balance that got a guy doxxed

i know, different game but still

[fierce elm]

BfA S1 for Fury

[green wharf]

he likes that war is shit, cause it means its harder to play

[fierce elm]

Dude is just posting on the forums lmfao

[green wharf]

harder to play = he thinks hes better than other people

[fierce elm]

But yeah the arrowhead thing was awful

[hearty vault]

I wouldn't defend it in the latest patch, but I would in previous ones.

[green wharf]

high skill expression and shit

[fierce elm]

Sorry, specifically SL S1

Because Condemn was very fucking funny

[ashen crypt]

condemn before the massive nerf was amazing

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Or Necro S2 or S3

purely for memes

Out of like a 'how good this spec is' there is about one a single season back

[wheat jay]

Charge doing most dmg on warrior

Fun stuff

[fierce elm]

Charge Warbringer went dummy fun

[exotic forge]

PvE or PvP?

[ashen crypt]

but they had to gut us, meanwhile boomkins had convoke, yikes

[green wharf]

execute charge would be goated this exp

[fierce elm]

Warrior was meta all of SL until what, last season?

[green wharf]

since our mobility is giga shit

[wheat jay]

Bro me and kargish played some alt 2s as double warr

And we just kept charging some monk until he died xD

[fierce elm]

It had some memery

[wheat jay]

4 charges with cds and man was dead hahaha

[exotic forge]

Last season of SL was still decent enough, no?

[fierce elm]

Idk, I quit at 1800 lmfao

[exotic forge]

I only came back during DF pre-patch

It was AWFUL

[fierce elm]

But I know S1 and S2 were really good

[ashen crypt]

i quit at the start of s2 and went to classic, then came back df s2

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Then S1 and S2 TWW Warrior existed

and then got obliterated S3

[exotic forge]

S1 10.0.5

[ashen crypt]

tww S1 was fun

[green wharf]

i dont even think war was that bad in s3

of tww

[fierce elm]

Like we are one season off Warrior being Meta lmfao

[green wharf]

but all their counters were op

so war ended up more shit that it should be

[fierce elm]

ya uhdk/mm has everything warrior hates

[ashen crypt]

but hey, we got nerfed......again

[green wharf]

being one shot on a volley

even with defenses up

was bullshit

[fierce elm]

But yeah, not being meta for one season in an entire expansion is pretty cracked

[green wharf]

not being meta is ok, but being unfiltered ass is a problem, and that is midnight s1

[fierce elm]

Crazy how you are already playing the season launch tbh

[wheat jay]

Brother season has yet to start?

Are you stupid?

[fierce elm]

How is it

[wheat jay]

XD

[ashen crypt]

this
dont care about being meta but at least let me be competitive and not dogshit

[green wharf]

lets just say im predicting

[fierce elm]

So S1-S3 of TWW

[warm plinth]

idc if unholy is meta, its fun

[fierce elm]

Warriors balancing has never held anyone back from achieving their goals

[wheat jay]

So entirety of wow history?

[exotic forge]

I don't care if warrior is not meta

It just has to be viable

[fierce elm]

The only spec you can absolutely say is 'limiting' is Aug

[wheat jay]

Where warrior is never below a tier

[exotic forge]

if it's meta then that's a bad thing

[wheat jay]

Usually s tier

[fierce elm]

Viable is a broad term

[wheat jay]

D tier specs are viable

Warrior is always s or a

[solemn elm]

i miss death sentence no icd

[fierce elm]

(I just want to say that I am not defending any balancing issues nor do I care what state any spec ends up in generally)

Just to make that clear lmao

[exotic forge]

Remember when you could Execute while rooted

[green wharf]

[exotic forge]

from like 20 yards away

[hearty vault]

I asked about the best design in an expansion, considering the situation of other classes. I don't know if it was meta because of the DPS it had.

[fierce elm]

We answered lmao

[green wharf]

for arms i will always llove and prefer mop arms

[exotic forge]

PvE, Cata and Legion. PvP, Cata, MoP and I guess Legion

[fierce elm]

I think the consensus tends to be SL arms/fury or MoP Arms/Fury

then PvE is usually Legion

[green wharf]

second is prob shadowlands cause i love condemn execute charge

[fierce elm]

However, I do think Fury S1 with Thane was pretty fun

[wheat jay]

Objectively speaking id say s2 shadowlands, warr had everything

[fierce elm]

and I think Thane is probably the coolest hero talent out of all of them

[exotic forge]

For the record, I'm only speaking from experience, I didn't play during SL or BfA

[wheat jay]

Utility, dmg, mobility, cc, s tier dmg, and so on

It paired with everything

Every comp with warr was automatically a good comp

Warrior enabled every other spec in that season

You could play warrior+anything

[exotic forge]

What made warrior so good back then

[wheat jay]

Simply because of how much it had

[exotic forge]

give me an example

[wheat jay]

Banner giving dmg to whole team

Mobility back then was good

[exotic forge]

oh Necro Banner

[wheat jay]

Highest burst in the game

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

Good cc, amazing peels

[fierce elm]

Damage with everything, Mobility with Condemn charge having zero cooldown so any Condemn was a charge with no cooldown at all, Defensively probably the best spec in the game, viability with other specs.

The game was also less micro-CC back then

so less 'peel'

[wheat jay]

Dstance was the single best defensive ever created in wow

[green wharf]

i dont think there was that many roots/slows like there is now

[fierce elm]

Which meant you had 100% uptime on any target

[green wharf]

but i only play the start of shadowlands

[fierce elm]

As one of the highest damage specs in the game whos entirely counterplay was kiting and trying to slow down

[hearty vault]

Do you think the warrior needs a defensive ability that provides a instant of immunity, like all the other specs currently have? (now)

[wheat jay]

Like what specs?

[exotic forge]

Yeah no wonder they removed Death Sentence lmao

[fierce elm]

Ret/Hunter/Mage

[lavish quest]

Like my mog?

[fierce elm]

my guy is DRIPPED

[wheat jay]

Clean af

Whats that sword?

[rancid granite]

imagine this guy trying to walk thru doorways

[hearty vault]

Both, Arms parry is useless.

[lavish quest]

Don't worry about it

[fierce elm]

No he meant what all other specs

[wheat jay]

No no, you said all specs have some

What specs have immunities

[fierce elm]

you should NOT check what is behind the Zul'aman renown 20 helmet

What the fuck is that Sword though

[exotic forge]

No because you'd be playing a Ret Paladin at that point

[wheat jay]

Ye, looks like troll stromkar lmao

[exotic forge]

That's NOT Strom'kar

[green wharf]

mage have iceblock
hunter have turtle
DH have their immunity
Pala have bubble

DK doesnt have it, neither warlock

[wheat jay]

BUT LOOKS SIMILAR

[wheat jay]

Dh doesn't have immunity dumbass

[exotic forge]

Actually that sword is not even real

what the fuck is that

https://tenor.com/view/mc-jugger-nuggets-gif-19032506

[green wharf]

then why i hit them and they dont take damage

[fierce elm]

I am gonna say that DH/hunter/mage are not on the same level that Paladin immunity is due to not being able to do anything

[green wharf]

and they become black

explain that

[fierce elm]

Netherwalk baby

[green wharf]

so they have it

[exotic forge]

Not anymore

They don't have Netherwalk anymore

[wheat jay]

Cuz your arms are weak and you do zero damage

[wheat jay]

Nether was purple

[hearty vault]

By immunity I mean defensive specs where attacking that spec is considered pointless. Not a paladin bubble.

[green wharf]

ah it was removed

[fierce elm]

what

[green wharf]

suck it

fucking elves

[fierce elm]

Attacking bubble is quite literally pointless

[green wharf]

die by the sword should be able to parry ranged physical attacks

like hunter attacks

its bullshit that we dont

[hearty vault]

yes yes, too, I mean defensives that reduce 80% dmg or something like that

[wheat jay]

You parry pets

[fierce elm]

So none

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Bruh

[fierce elm]

Pretty sure D-stance+Parry is one of the highest DR in the game

[wheat jay]

It is

[green wharf]

they shot things

[fierce elm]

Fuck you @lavish quest gonna go online and find this weapon

[green wharf]

with their weapons

[fierce elm]

Or is that you using Wowhead dress room

ya lil creep

[wheat jay]

You're not a witcher, you're not parrying gunshots

[hearty vault]

true, as arms. Maybe the problem is that they can keep CC on u all time. But as Fury?

[fierce elm]

D-stance+Enraged regen

We are just moving the goalposts at this point

[wheat jay]

And usable in stuns

[green wharf]

i should be

[wheat jay]

Monk should, not you

[fierce elm]

THAT IS A DRESSING ROOM SWORD

[wheat jay]

Go check source for the sword

I want it

Looks mad good

[fierce elm]

No I cba

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[green wharf]

yo this sword is clean

[fierce elm]

I just went online and checked transmogs lmao

[wheat jay]

Not on orc

[green wharf]

its not on the transmog thing for me

so maybe is an tauren exclusive sword

[pseudo herald]

will i still want 20% haste as arms? or do i just go mastery and enjoy my slow globals

[fierce elm]

Na slam haste

[hearty vault]

So defensively, what do you think the problem is if it doesn't need moments of immunity or damage evasion? These days, the warrior is just a punching bag. Please remember that I'm only interested in your opinion; I'm not contradicting anything.

[ashen crypt]

me like it, wheres all that from?

[fierce elm]

Defensively it is fine

The damage is very lacking

Bringing back root break on Avatar

[hearty vault]

did u play warrior in BG?

[fierce elm]

I don't read tunings from a gamemode that doesn't impact me

[hearty vault]

ahm ok

[wheat jay]

Classes are tuned for arena

Not random bgs

[pseudo herald]

im a tripping - skillcapped is recommending to not play IgnorePain

[fierce elm]

Yes

that is tripping

[lavish quest]

[hearty vault]

Currently, most players who do PvP play 3v3 ranked or "random modes" (Battlegrounds, Blitz)?

[fierce elm]

Most players do some sort of Rated PvP

It's probably Blitz, Solo Shuffle, 3v3, 2v2

[green wharf]

classes are tuned for M+*

[hearty vault]

I think warrior is horrible to Solo Shuffle, so much stuns to play with some classes

[fierce elm]

I mean the season isn't out

[green wharf]

MUD is into some secret techinique

not getting shockwave

[fierce elm]

If Judging purely from TWW S3 then yes

[green wharf]

listen to him

[hearty vault]

yes and waste one SUPER HERO Talents! ty Blizzard

[fierce elm]

I am so confused

[green wharf]

[ashen crypt]

and i have fever and should be resting but i still need to lvl my wanted to be arms warr

[exotic forge]

I gotchu

[pseudo herald]

@elfin surge u still like my pp?

[fierce elm]

Yo those are sick

If this is Tauren exclusive then goodbye my Orc

All this transmog only for me to go s1 elite

[ashen crypt]

if its real its more of a pally tauren mog, weapon screams sunwalker

[fierce elm]

Yeah but I aint playing Paladin rn

[exotic forge]

It is sunwalker mogs

maybe trading post stuff

[fierce elm]

Need it to be HMT too for me to make the choice to swap HMT on my UHDK

[hearty vault]

I think most warrior players on the forums are complaining about random PvP situations (right now). The class's versatility in those situations should be given more importance, not just in 3v3. I highly doubt any PvP player enjoys only doing 3v3 with their main class.

[fierce elm]

I just said all rated modes

[green wharf]

def not trading post

[fierce elm]

They are not going to do balancing around unrated content

If they do any balancing

Its like balancing M+ from how follower dungeons feel

[fierce elm]

fuck yes lmfao

[exotic forge]

Great change

[fierce elm]

We ran two dks last night in M0s

and there was no visibility at all

[exotic forge]

They easily make lag spikes surge frequently lmao

[green wharf]

new hotfixes
Rend and Rallying Cry still bugged

[rancid granite]

where is mud and his colossus build

skyhold needs a hero

[green wharf]

imagine playing colossus

in this meta

where you cant reach no one

[rancid granite]

thats why you need demolish

[green wharf]

good luck landing a demolish

[solemn elm]

press your stun

before you do it

so that they can’t escape it

duh

[green wharf]

[solemn elm]

either they trinket or you actually land it

not that hard

before you’re going to do anything press colossus smash first then stun then demolish if you just colossus smash while stun is up you’re just throwing

obviously you’re not gonna land it

gonna tickle anyways

[green wharf]

stormbolt gonna be 2s cause someone already stunned your target can you finish the casting before the stun ends?

[solemn elm]

why are we stunning when it’s on dr though

it’s normal to just hold it for your next stun you still have 10 stacks of over power doing the most and rends aswell

[robust hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M64-YAmuP0k

@scarlet trout study up lil buddy

[green wharf]

dunno i dont have an addon that tell me those things

[solemn elm]

well it’s free use it

[exotic forge]

We seem to have forgotten what eyes are for

[robust hearth]

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glasses-bubbles-trailer-park-boys-goober-gif-12960922054276230522

[real briar]

is aug evoker good in pvp?

[scarlet trout]

if it is do you really want to be playing dragon

youll lose max bench

[real briar]

just something to alt with

and i have him for dungeons but dont know anything with him for pvp so i was debating if i should play him as pvp as well

[green wharf]

can you see the dr on stuns by eye alone?

[exotic forge]

Yes

I have a lot of spatial awareness because i'm built different

[green wharf]

[exotic forge]

playing a shit ton of Halo helps lmao

[lavish quest]

Khailby benchkeeping

[green wharf]

How can you even see that, there is nothing that indicate that

you caping

[real briar]

another close game

[exotic forge]

When you play a lot of pvp competitively in fps, you're bound to learn a lot about spatial awareness

Paying attention to little details

Sounds

Everything

[rancid granite]

I've done countless random demolish executes without stun they never expect it

2400 ss anyway

[green wharf]

[exotic forge]

I'm built different

[green wharf]

[tribal holly]

Iirc theres different sound cues based on the stun dr

[exotic forge]

^

[green wharf]

[solemn elm]

permanent reminder of astral season

[ebon steeple]

LMAO

[tribal holly]

Thats because youre blasting music too hard to realize the game has inbuilt dbm systems for every mechanic

[spice hornet]

Late doing his weekly containment channel check?

Good to see you stop by

Mud and Leland are running this place perfectly

[elfin surge]

bald man

[urban skiff]

What's the deal with patch 12.0.5 patch notes? Are they on top of whatever we're getting with the next balance patches or are we getting a preview?

[exotic forge]

I just got gnomed by Magnusz

[green anchor]

no way he's playing Shitnight

and warrior?

[normal sierra]

Hey guys I attack an afk priest for 3 minutes and only managed to do 10% of his HP, is arms in a bad spot rn?

[solemn elm]

sounds pretty normal

[normal sierra]

[exotic forge]

Late but yes he is

And he's fully geared

[balmy solar]

initial ptr patch, more changes coming, they're on top of whatever patchnotes we get for tuesday.

[urban skiff]

figure gameplay changes comes with .5 and straight up numbers tweak is all we see this reset

[balmy solar]

yeah, I'm expecting wet noodle to change to dry noodle. but a rework i highly doubt is in the cards

damage aside, is arms actually decent on gameplay loop? been to busy with work that I haven't even hit max level yet

[fierce elm]

yes

12.0.5 is mid season patch

[idle falcon]

thats stupid

why they change fury rotation mid patch lol

like entire rotation

[fierce elm]

Because they can?

[idle falcon]

you dont do that

[fierce elm]

12.0.5 patch usually introduces some changes like this

[idle falcon]

we litterally go from WW into abilities

to WW spam

[fierce elm]

With what we have seen right now, yes.

[idle falcon]

yo mama

[fierce elm]

lmfao

Everyone got that 12.0.5 orb that tells you exactly how it will end up

[idle falcon]

and yo daddy too

[fierce elm]

Get rolled

[idle falcon]

thats why yo grandma has no knees

[fierce elm]

Can't wait to get 3 myth track items per week in M+

[idle falcon]

wdym

u can get mythic track items to drop in m+?

[fierce elm]

12.0.5 change

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-ohne-ohnepixel-rubbing-ohnepixel-hands-ohnepixel-gold-gif-9810597925035689868

[fierce elm]

so 2 rolls + vault

[idle falcon]

+20's first week?

[fierce elm]

+40s

[idle falcon]

too much

u overshot there

stop lying

with WW spam going on
i think they should make our apex wrecking ball

[digital badge]

i think imma do something smart, im kinda convinced arms will get hard buiffed to metaism

im debating learning arms rn

fury is nice and i got it on lock but ngl arms might be the meta spec in 5 days

[green anchor]

you'd be good at Slots

[wheat jay]

@green wharf

What would be the point of another elf race?

When its just void elves and blood elves but basic bitches, no fel, no void, no light

Just random ass hoes with long ears

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1372356491327049908/1481963891041898496/image.png?ex=69b539ed&is=69b3e86d&hm=b679cb7643a82457c9cb5ff5b10f569a21b6db8b96250fb315d2e2db5b6f1042&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1372356491327049908/1481963916321095700/image.png?ex=69b539f3&is=69b3e873&hm=38c56ad2010449bdc3a0cae18463e9d4d95d0b76c4d6295328430db09b60cd76&

Got these from the same delve run

[elfin herald]

edgy people

[green wharf]

this more likely decour stuff

silver covenant debands and is over after the main storyline

[green wharf]

you mean why the dumbfucks ask for HE still

they want "pure" elves

[elfin herald]

blood elves are high elves but renamed that's so nonsense

[wheat jay]

Ah like hitler?

Can we ban ppl wanting he?

[green wharf]

the He fanboys have this weird eugenistic idea that their elves are pure, untainted, who never did anything wrong or "betrayed their allies, the other elves are evil, tainted

So they literally want the exact same race again, but with the "High elf" in the name

to validate their fanfic

[wheat jay]

...

Nerds

[elfin herald]

in lore the "high elves" still alligned with silvermoon, right ?

[green wharf]

blood elves are high elves

[elfin herald]

they arent factioned

[green wharf]

just with other name

is the same race

they think its two different races

when its basically two political parties at best

[elfin herald]

got u

[green wharf]

some HE stick with the alliance cause they are betrayers of their own kin

like the silver covenant

which was basically the HE fanboys lifeline

but now the group is over

[elfin herald]

and valeera

so its like people that want different humans ?

like from stromgarde

[green wharf]

ive followed this discussion for like 10~~12 years, is always the same dumbshit discussions

[green wharf]

exactly LOL

like "i want defias humans playable"

[wheat jay]

Thats belf

[green wharf]

when they were just bandits of stormwind

[wheat jay]

But aligned with ally

[elfin herald]

i just wish i could create a vrykul

[lavish quest]

But why? They make mounts small and their animations suck.
At least from the toys that turn you into them lol

[green wharf]

they would be like zanda/kul'tiran

and the mounts would be bigger

and they would have normal player animations

[junior peak]

is the Icy Veins article pretty decent to get up to date?

[elfin herald]

they are cool

[green wharf]

npcs always suck in that regard cause is a different rig/skeleton

[junior peak]

i'm actually loving the War mode

Feels like a totally new game

[lavish quest]

Humans are vrykul, kinda.

In the lore

Clueless

[green wharf]

vrykul are human ancestors like ogres are orcs ancestors

[elfin herald]

like trolls and elfs

and this new race

[green wharf]

i made this long time ago and updated

[wheat jay]

meanwhile

human

human

👍

[green wharf]

vrykul>human, but those are from the titan constructs, they dont evolve often

[sterile moth]

Happy Friday!! Scorching hot take but in full pvp gear, colossus arms feels pretty ok in bgs and skirms. I think if we get some buffs we will be in great shape

[green wharf]

keep in mind you are facing people without full pvp gear

quite frequent

[elfin herald]

my focus macro keep stop working idk why

[fierce elm]

according to some DKs they have been a bit wonky lately

[rancid granite]

its crazy some apex talents are getting reworked on first patch

anything is possible

[sterile moth]

For sure

[elfin surge]

pvp tuning announce today?

surely right

[elfin herald]

im already playing arms, sure that a 80% dmg buff incoming

[elfin surge]

[elfin herald]

https://x.com/BajheeraWoW/status/2032348749742424296?s=20

Bajheera (@BajheeraWoW)

My bad, team ...

X · Mar 13, 2026, 6:51 AM

reality:

[sterile moth]

Dang

[inland fulcrum]

Any beta enjoyers have a good build for prop hunt?

[idle falcon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[elfin surge]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[idle falcon]

NO

FUCK ARMS RN

ITS ANIME DOOM TIME

CBA ANYMORE

FURY TOO

[lavish quest]

Anyways, I came here for Arms info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

[scarlet trout]

Anyways, I came here for Arms info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

[elfin surge]

Anyways, I came here for Arms info...nice to see it’s the same old slop as all of the internet...ie, ignorance thinking it is educated.

[worldly oriole]

Wtf is prop hunt

isn't it a call of duty gamemode

[lavish quest]

Originally a Garry's mod game mode I think

[elfin herald]

prop hunt on minecraft

[wheat jay]

lmao some fury tried to kill me in open world

at some point i started just fucking around

teleporting and backflipping xD

[lavish quest]

Reported for bug abuse

[wheat jay]

lmao

ye its a bug

it shouldnt be giving two backflips per use

[lavish quest]

Fotm rerolls are bugs
#changemymind

Surely it's a bug war is so shit

COPIUM

[rancid granite]

Inb4 there's zero tuning for warrior

[lavish quest]

3% aura nerf to arms

[rancid granite]

they gotta spend time with other tuning first

[elfin herald]

it would be so nice that they tho the opposite what should happen

buff top specs and nerf more bottom specs

[rancid granite]

playing rogue and monk all their abilities look so clean and fluid I want a visual warrior rework

[elfin herald]

and i think that's completely possible

[lavish quest]

"Arms time to kill on AFK players is a little too fast. So we are lowering their damage to give the AFK players more time to return to the keyboard and win."

[ashen crypt]

prot warr animations have weight, i really like them but arms feels like hitting with a wet noodle so i agree, new visuals (not considering how bad our dmg is right now)

[elfin herald]

i dont think that's the major problem though

its our heavy dmg cd do shit damage

[lavish quest]

They've "reworked" warrior a bunch of times. Problem is the rework is always just adjusting 1 minor ability and calling it there lmao.

[rancid granite]

yeah prot war is definitely nice, the new revenge animation gives me life and hope lol

I want the shouts to look mighty like I'm playing Skyrim

[ashen crypt]

Wuld Nah Kest!

[elfin herald]

i just want to give big ms and bt dmg

nothing more nothing less

[jovial torrent]

fistweaving is the new warrior playstyle

[elfin herald]

fistweaving is dope

[jovial torrent]

trying to figure out somthing weird tho when i click rushing windclick it targets a random enemy which is really annoying when im trying to weave in heals

think monk will be first char i push for mog before its nerfed

i did almost nothing but spam rushing wind kick

[fierce elm]

kek

so today

[exotic forge]

Afro do you think we're getting tuning notes today

[lavish quest]

I imagine we will

I answer for Afro

[fierce elm]

I imagine we will

I answer for Leland, Bane of MUD

[sterile moth]

You just spam rushing wind kick and it heals

[jovial torrent]

it heals and makes your next sheilun gift heal instant

gotta say honor gearing sucks ass without the transfer honor available, going back to being a worthless char with no stats

[frank knoll]

Those Arms nerfs are a joke right ?

[lavish quest]

Arms nerfs shall continue until morale improves

[boreal veldt]

You can nerf my spec but you can never nerf my cope

[jovial torrent]

im not even sure why there are balance patch notes on the .5 thats ages away

[boreal veldt]

ptr is on a different cycle

[jovial torrent]

surely all those nerfs buffs will be irrelivant when we get changes on 17 21 ect

[solemn elm]

use animepahe

good one

[idle falcon]

mambo

[boreal veldt]

this is the worst news i've seen all year

i literally just watched the new jjk last night

[sand sundial]

Warrior buffs big xope

Honestly yeah the releases are kinda janky

[fierce elm]

My mans speaks the truth

[boreal veldt]

build a crit warrior with me

[fierce elm]

Don't push it pal

[boreal veldt]

[brave talon]

any macros that are good for ignore pain?

[fierce elm]

Uh

No

Or like, there are no macros for it

because it's on GCD now

[green anchor]

you know Arms is fucked when even Bajheera is posting memes about it

[fierce elm]

Unless you wanna attach some epic voicelines when you use it

[exotic forge]

My goat

Then it truly is the end times

[jovial torrent]

ive finished gearing monk, now i gotta move onto next char

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/doomer-wojak-sad-cigarette-depressed-gif-19819022

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-wojak-soyjak-marcvin5-gif-13903021270190271130

idk

whatever data collection system blizz uses that they base tuning off of has to be broken

or there are completely new hires on this sitting there clueless

[fierce elm]

Or its PTR

[wheat jay]

Void dh is fun

[exotic forge]

Reject void dragon, go back to monke

[lavish quest]

Well ahead of you

[wheat jay]

Its not as cancer lmao

It can be slowed

[worldly oriole]

Holy Cow just had a great leg workout

[wheat jay]

Good for you Tony

[green wharf]

but that begs the question, how can you make ptr changes, if you did not take data from the 17th changes

[exotic forge]

For me, it's that it's as "bad" as a dragon, it's just very plain

very boring

[wheat jay]

What isn't this expansion compared to before

[exotic forge]

well shit you got me there

[green wharf]

[digital badge]

boys got a question, as fury, do i wanna stack haste then mastery or mastey then haste or depends on what i enjoy more?

[green wharf]

usually fury stacks mastery

[spice hornet]

MUD is 5’4 btw

[elfin surge]

Mastery we get our haste from talents

[elfin surge]

ur bald

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[exotic forge]

thanks for the gif bro

https://tenor.com/view/seal-clapping-property-of-mello-gif-17743612165590356299

[worldly oriole]

sick gif

[robust hearth]

Misspelled bunny

[idle falcon]

ok and

it's funnier that way

[rancid granite]

slick gif

[sterile moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/B7QsPiEAD1

Not a troll, for sure

[sharp meteor]

new warlock i could see it

[sterile moth]

Yeah, all the comments made me laugh.

Poor new guy….”I would start by turning on your monitor”.

[spice hornet]

Has to be bait

[minor storm]

Anybody know what the best weapon enchants are for pvp fury?

[sharp meteor]

Something that does damage or procs mastery/vers

buy r2 one to save like 50k

we get conq weps in a few weeks

[stark agate]

That reads like a rage bait post ngl

Ok yeah def trolling lmao

[ruby sun]

!tierlist

[fierce elm]

yeah

dude either just wants genuine help

or baiting

[exotic forge]

What are the odds they listen to him and they nerf warriors further

jokes aside, that's pretty funny

[faint hemlock]

more like !tearlist

[elfin surge]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[green wharf]

Imma take a nap