pvp

[fierce elm]

The Skirmishes are kinda fun

its a mixture of new players and absolute arena fiends

however the team that has the mistweaver wins 90% of games lmao

[warm plinth]

you like 2 shot someone on dk if they have pve gear

[wheat jay]

hmmmmm

afro

[warm plinth]

"hi new player, welcome to wow pvp"

[wheat jay]

i hit a dh with 100k reap instant cast

[fierce elm]

ARMY - DT - SOUL REAPER

bye

[urban skiff]

what's wrong with ti

[warm plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/key-to-the-arcantina-is-now-a-silvermoon-hearthstone-with-a-15-minute-cooldown-380675

[wheat jay]

doesnt target normal enemies

[warm plinth]

wow blizz actually kinda going back on fun nerf

[urban skiff]

/targetenemyplayer [pvpcombat]
/stopmacro [pvpcombat]
/targetenemy

fixed

[spice hornet]

Tony will do literally anything other than make a resume

[fierce elm]

can we pin that

[spice hornet]

I hope so

[fierce elm]

@lavish quest pin that

it has 3 fire upvotes

[urban skiff]

The best kind of upvotes

[wheat jay]

7 more honor items...

[worldly oriole]

I have 2 year exercise science degree

[urban skiff]

what's life as an unemployed barista?

[fierce elm]

He is unemployed period

[urban skiff]

I'd employ him tbh

[fierce elm]

for the memes

I am convinced Tony is the same in real life as he is in chat

[wheat jay]

he 100% is

[warm plinth]

3v2 win xd

[wheat jay]

like, most ppl on internet are like irl

[fierce elm]

damage done 0

that was a 2v2 pal

[warm plinth]

[urban skiff]

I like to think I'm 8% more civilized

[green wharf]

fo you people that do pve, what do i do with the first 2 sparks

[fierce elm]

nothing

[pure hornet]

Where is seaegent wilson? In midnight

To change faction for bg

[green wharf]

what should i be crafting

[fierce elm]

Nothing

[warm plinth]

dont craft yet

[green wharf]

why

[fierce elm]

That is on heroic week

[urban skiff]

weapons cost 4 sparks, or I'd make a weapon for the first 3 weeks

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/dsXWSMB.png

gaming

[green anchor]

weapons if you don't have mythic ones

[fierce elm]

then craft week 3

that is the TRYHARD path

[green anchor]

or save your sparks since it doesn't matter much at the moment

[fierce elm]

So ideally you aren't spark crafting until week 3

[green wharf]

what kind of pieces are those that dont use sparks

[fierce elm]

No fucking idea lmfao

[dusky parrot]

Jesus we’re nearing classic levels of tryhard

[fierce elm]

I got sent this

Because I was wondering over waht we could do pre march 17th

[wheat jay]

you mean the thing that is ALWAYS there every season?

[dusky parrot]

What’s next? Hire a mage for ZG buff?

[fierce elm]

"Oh my god why are people optimizing smh"

[dusky parrot]

No I understand why

[warm plinth]

damn

[wheat jay]

brother, people mathed out this game years ago

now its just same shit every season

[fierce elm]

Also because it can be kinda fun

[wheat jay]

why do you think bosses on classic die in 30sec?

xD

[fierce elm]

In a world with 800 systems there is neat to have some guideline

[dusky parrot]

That’s both fun and not fun at the same time

[wheat jay]

my point is that its been mathed out

[dusky parrot]

What’s the excitement when you’re just gonna burn it down in 30 secs

[wheat jay]

old guys can pretend theyre good?

[dusky parrot]

And I like how there’s a mountain of chores for pve but for PvP it’s just

“Get honor gear and wait till Ssn comes out”

[fierce elm]

yeah thats pretty much it

Because PvE is the main gamemode

There is some merit to getting multiple 90s that all have honor cap beforehand

but it is extremely tryhard

then feeding your main character with gems+honor for sockets

[dusky parrot]

Honor really only has one use and it’s gearing before a ssn, or alts. Otherwise it’s pretty useless

Should make it have more use other than gear or 5 marks of honor

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm finally back to feeling normal

[fierce elm]

If you want a TLDR @green wharf the reason is because you would ideally want a mythic track weapon

HOWEVER

that isn't guaranteed

but if you craft beforehand you are stuck with a non myth track weapon that is gonna be less than ideal

[fierce elm]

you 90 yet

[urban skiff]

2 bars into level 88

so about 70% more exp and I can ding at will

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Also the things to craft with veteran crests does not require sparks

only 80 veteran crests

[green wharf]

yeah i used all those ones already

[fierce elm]

and at max quality those are 246

oh boy

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

lmfao

yueah then fuck the guide do w.e you want

[green wharf]

might as well do it

i have everything 230 but the boots

[fierce elm]

It also depends on what you expect to clear in a sense

[green wharf]

craft a boot and whatever

[fierce elm]

Because this guide assumes you are heroic raiding and doing myth track vaults for m+ week 1

[green wharf]

i guess just normal raiding is fine

not gonna do much pvp with war anyway

[fierce elm]

It also doesn't matter much in the end

But i'd definitely try craft a weapon depending on what content you are clearing

[green wharf]

gonna craft this one

[wheat jay]

every gearing guide assumes its endgame, ye

[fierce elm]

oh lord

[wheat jay]

i already crafted weapon 👍

[fierce elm]

yeah the guide assumes you are doing at least M10s

and heroic raiding

then it has a separate section for Mythic raid and heroic raid

[green wharf]

isnt like 4 sparks

can you get 4?

[wheat jay]

dh

2 per 1h weapon

[green wharf]

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge tbc fun until you zone into rogue mage

Gonna become wotlk waiting room shortly

[wheat jay]

some people like playing the game

not waiting for roots to run out

[fierce elm]

now he just has to cast for 2 seconds to do any damage

and for that damage to do less than every other spell in the game

[green wharf]

you could have some self respect and play a man class

Like DK

even Afro is doing

[wheat jay]

Im more melee than he, on ranged dh xD

[fierce elm]

we have a melee ability smh

two

[wheat jay]

So do I

What now

[fierce elm]

Hey why did you delete your question

TO ASNWER THE QUESTION: Look at playstyle of specs rather than numbers or tuning

[fierce elm]

ghouls are melee checkmate

[digital badge]

yo gamers

can someone share a fury warr pvp build i lowk cant find on

[fierce elm]

the pins brother

[digital badge]

nothings pinned

[fierce elm]

Scroll the pins brother

[digital badge]

this?

[fierce elm]

there ya go

[digital badge]

lol i could have jusat replied to it xzd

[warm plinth]

no, this

[fierce elm]

That is some sort of build at least lmao

[digital badge]

oh man ur so funny, can u please fuck my sister so we have another funny guy like u in this world

meow

[fierce elm]

lmfao

Pretty sure he can fuck any girl and make a funny guy

doesn't have to be your sister

[fierce elm]

Still can't decide on the disease talent or Putrefy ghoul buff

[digital badge]

🙁

[fierce elm]

THIS IS INTING

[urban skiff]

maybe he already has the chair

[warm plinth]

are you na

[fierce elm]

HELLO

No I am very much EU

[warm plinth]

fuck

[warm plinth]

dont need

[wheat jay]

Oof

[fierce elm]

I also like this one

[wheat jay]

Afro, they're getting crazier by the day

[warm plinth]

I never find a need for it, usually im chasing one person with it

[fierce elm]

Yeah it is infinitely more better when we get out of BG/skirmish hell

[wheat jay]

They were happy with 5 stacks collapsing star in a bg for 150k

[fierce elm]

because it procs off trollbane

[wheat jay]

That's raid boss stacking lmao

[warm plinth]

and if I'm fighting in large fights, theres usually no need for it

[wheat jay]

Its like bonus 150% dmg

[fierce elm]

plus they are actually dispelling stuff lmao

[warm plinth]

it does???

yo

[fierce elm]

It should

In my theoretical mind

[green wharf]

what is this for

[fierce elm]

That has about uh, negative season experience

[green wharf]

isnt like shit healing

[warm plinth]

idk, since you cant blacklist buffs/debuffs, I dont really pay attention to them now

[fierce elm]

decent healing

Easy to summon your ghoul again

[green wharf]

1%?

[warm plinth]

you screenshotted 2 talents, which one

[fierce elm]

1% max hp heal every single second

that is just purely passive

Bridges gaps when you can death strike again

[green wharf]

thats like

second wind

[warm plinth]

yes

[fierce elm]

yes

[warm plinth]

with no cd

[green wharf]

and second wind is shit

[fierce elm]

second wind is lowkey kinda fine

[green wharf]

[warm plinth]

if youre under 50%, it activates

slam a resummon macro on your abilities for your ghoul, youre chilling

[green wharf]

this chat cant keep straight(in bothw ays)

[fierce elm]

The game is changing brother

[green wharf]

last season people said second wind was garbo

[fierce elm]

yeah its almost like its an entirely new expansion

Second wind caught a buff, you got a talent that has synergy with it

you need talent points in order to climb the tree

[green wharf]

it got nerfed by a lot

[warm plinth]

the pvp zone needs to be a third the size with no flying

[fierce elm]

It was literally buffed lmao

[warm plinth]

people can just dragonride away, this shit is ass

[fierce elm]

11.0.5

12.0.0

along with field dressing

[ebon steeple]

Second wind ain't that bad this time around

[fierce elm]

that we also need for talent points

or y'all

[ebon steeple]

But i ran it last ssn so my word might not be good lmao

[green wharf]

it got nerfed in half in pvp

[fierce elm]

God I sure do love wowheads changelog

[green wharf]

so its prob close to tww again

[fierce elm]

Then I stand corrected

[digital badge]

guys a question

im new to warr and i sadly have to figure out all my keybinds before i can mentally commity

as a fury that intends to only play 2v2s what skills can i leave out (like not even put on my action bar for example thios looks like the first cantditate)

[fierce elm]

However it still has synergy with field dressing and needed

[green wharf]

it got nerfed because prot pvp talent

[fierce elm]

the only reaosn to use Heroic throw is to keep people in combat

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Which can be relevant

[digital badge]

but is that actually something imma need? i got two charges and heroic leap and my partner

[fierce elm]

It can be

[fierce elm]

Rogue being annoying, healer drinking

not having to waste a charge or a leap for that

[digital badge]

ok. is there any ability u say i dont really need

[fierce elm]

uh

[wheat jay]

All are situational, only thing you can do is macro few together i guess

[fierce elm]

probably no for Warrior lmao

[wheat jay]

Like charge with hamstring

[digital badge]

and also do i EVER press whirlwind as a mountain thane? i was thinking that thunderclap replaces it

[warm plinth]

yup

[fierce elm]

yeah that is true

[warm plinth]

it replaces it

[digital badge]

ok so remove whirlwind

[fierce elm]

but the rest have their use

[digital badge]

ok thanks

im lovign warr so far, i came from the survival hunter massacre

[warm plinth]

fucking rip survival and mm

[digital badge]

survival is still fun

[green wharf]

fuck this game of slows and roots

[digital badge]

go gnome

[wheat jay]

Play fun class

[green wharf]

[green anchor]

survival at least rips ass in pve

[dusky parrot]

its nerfed to only be 1% in pvp

because SOMEONE ruined all the fun

[fierce elm]

yes

[wheat jay]

So, same shit?

Same as it was before?

[dusky parrot]

2% hp heal was OP and amazing for arms and fury, case closed

rextroy fucked us

[digital badge]

do i use rend?

[fierce elm]

Ya gotta read the abilities you pick up fella

But no it applies through thunderclap

[green wharf]

worse, cause now people hit harder tham before

[green wharf]

only useful in pve prob

[fierce elm]

yeah I aint reading all that lmao

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

too many numbers

I just hit stuff and hope it works out

[dusky parrot]

if you use thunderclap to apply rend, it only hits 5 targets. if you use rend itself it hits whoever is near you. So its a choice

[fierce elm]

Thunderclap goes brrr

[digital badge]

thanks

[green wharf]

not many cases you find yourself in that position

[dusky parrot]

yeah but kind of a flex point if you dont care enough

[honest flare]

Is mountain thane fury the way to go pretty much

That’s wat I saw bajheera playing

[green wharf]

im going dk no fuck it, but frost cause it feels better

question

why death strike have no cD

but the shit warrior one have it

@wheat jay

[fierce elm]

Because it doesn't work like a traditional healing ability

also runic power which is very valuable

[fierce elm]

If you find yourself spamming Death strike then you already lost lmao

[green wharf]

isnt rage very valuable for warriors as well

[fierce elm]

You got a ton of rage

[green wharf]

fuck frost plays nice

[fierce elm]

Who the fuck would ever be rage starved

you can however be runic starved

[green wharf]

you pop deathbringer and its pogers

[fierce elm]

Especially if death striking

[green wharf]

arms

especially colossus

[worldly oriole]

might do some pve tomorrow

[wheat jay]

Nah they dont

Not a single class or spec hits as hard as they did before

[green wharf]

unholy

[fierce elm]

SV does some disgusting things too lmfao

[green wharf]

they nerfed a bit, cause it was nuts

well they also fixed the bug of tip of the spear

[dusky parrot]

MT has armor pen with stormstrike dmg and you get bonus rage with thunderblast, execute dmg and raging blow dmg. and passive dmg reducution and avatar cd reduction with thunderblast

[fierce elm]

motherfucker walked in, chased me for 5 seconds

[dusky parrot]

so yeah id take that over slayer's gimmick being pretty shit atm

[fierce elm]

then boomed 80% of my HP

[elfin surge]

ya idk fury seems a lot better

[dusky parrot]

these regular or bot games

[green wharf]

these trainning grounds are craaazy

[wheat jay]

Way less burst than before lmao

[green wharf]

Bald mud thinking he bambozled us

[wheat jay]

Mudheera?

[dusky parrot]

hes done nothing but training grounds

cuz hes scared

cant even watch the goat be the goat

[elfin surge]

nah i got fury down

now i invite 4 pocket healers

and 5 stack deathwish bgs against real players

[green wharf]

[honest flare]

Do bgs with triton

[elfin surge]

TRITON

win trader?

[sharp meteor]

tritons arm bigger than muds torso

and dang arms still in shambles

where tuning (another 20% execute nerf)

[honest flare]

Genuinely how

Never seen a damage gap this big

[elfin surge]

im just the goat

[warm plinth]

gonna try some brew, havent played it since bfa

seems giga busted

[green wharf]

17th

whem the season starts

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm kids woke up, have to end at 89.5 for now, have almost all the delve quests left so it's a breeze from here

[fierce elm]

hype

[copper fox]

Just put 1 good player in a reg bg and this is normal

Especially with a healer

[solemn elm]

fury thane always best for bgs

@elfin surge do you have a build for fury

[green wharf]

trainning grounds, with bots

[green wharf]

[elfin surge]

idk i just picked random shit and went with it

[solemn elm]

lmao

[solemn elm]

im aware just asking him if he got some shit cookin everybody making something to see what will be the best

just wondering what it could be

now

kiss me

[green wharf]

nah mud doesnt play retail

[solemn elm]

true

[exotic forge]

The more y'all start making your own buildcrafting, the better

That being said, unholy DK second wind is ass

It can keep you alive but it has you resummoning your pet too often

[solemn elm]

santis build from beta is not the move

[lavish quest]

Then get me a new one

Also, Santi been silent forever

[solemn elm]

im gonna cook some shit up

its gonna be big blood thirsts

cooked up this garbage for now pressing raging blow is like bait u just mash blood thirst when its blood bath

[green wharf]

why

[solemn elm]

unironically i thought odyns fury was some urine but its okay i guess does some damage

[scarlet trout]

my teammates are so ass

[green wharf]

@urban skiff finnaly drop a recipe and its fucking mail

for engineering

[lavish quest]

They're crankin

[scarlet trout]

leland

[lavish quest]

Trusting ur cook flep

[scarlet trout]

ur playing monk

give me the monk pvp build

im 1 button rotating

[lavish quest]

I'm brew

In pve

Not using obr

[scarlet trout]

pvp

PVP

not pve

pvp

[warm plinth]

ill give you a build when i level my monk to 90

[scarlet trout]

how about right now

smile

[warm plinth]

idk current brewmaster

[scarlet trout]

WIND

WALKER

[lavish quest]

I know, I telling you cuz I haven't done any pvp on the monk yet, if at all

[scarlet trout]

PVP

[lavish quest]

Gonna see what balancing looks like

[solemn elm]

wtf ur playing a dps

not a tank

[scarlet trout]

cuz brew is

unplayable

in pvp

it has zero tools for anything at all

[green wharf]

warrior pov

[lavish quest]

So is blood. You're welcome

[scarlet trout]

untrue

has grip

[lavish quest]

So does unholy

[warm plinth]

mw monk has 21 passives

baseline

[lavish quest]

That's not a warrior button

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1479870564645601361/image.png?ex=69ad9c5d&is=69ac4add&hm=616fe947ffb90a1813fc451155b861dc5aa5cd707e57123173e2da935a191330&

[scarlet trout]

if you collect all 12

you get a secret painting

[lavish quest]

I've been informed

But this is the most important one

[solemn elm]

only for you

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

Flep clearly chose team short king

[lyric violet]

holy shit arms literally does zero damage

[scarlet trout]

same for sub rogue

holy

[lavish quest]

Sub pumps rn

[sharp meteor]

Sub is S+++ tier

[scarlet trout]

yeah ok

https://tenor.com/view/don't-make-me-tap-the-sign-simpsons-bus-gif-5399805801037462082

[lavish quest]

Prob don't have geae

Or clue how to play it

[sharp meteor]

You continue to emanate a distinctly low MMR energy.

[scarlet trout]

losing in dps to windwalker though

is kinda

cringe

[solemn elm]

you do realize ww is like

really good

[scarlet trout]

you misspelled unholy

[lavish quest]

Windwalker is also crankin rn

[scarlet trout]

which does more damage

i need to queue into good teammates

actual monitor off behavior

[solemn elm]

ego over a bg is crazy

[scarlet trout]

2s

[lavish quest]

Before EA dropped Windwalker was considered one of the best melees because it had the highest dmg lmao

[scarlet trout]

what were those first 3 words

[lavish quest]

And now... they're fighting with the other two kings sub and uh

Wow.

[scarlet trout]

so theyre pretty equal right

when damage numbers are equal on a damage meter the bars tend to be the same size right

[lavish quest]

Idk if their equal or nots

I've only fought bots

[lyric violet]

im gonna try slayer i was using col but idk

[solemn elm]

arms is pretty trash

[lavish quest]

Arms is an uninstall angle unfort

[solemn elm]

not bad i guess 121k blood thirst

everything needs to line up though

every cd, trinket + dat shit crit

and they need to be low for contempt

[green wharf]

[scarlet trout]

EXACTLY

[green wharf]

from you

[scarlet trout]

no

[green wharf]

[scarlet trout]

i was the windwalker

nice try syeg

you just glazed me

[lyric violet]

i hate fury though.

thats depressing. Lol

im about to just level my dk

just to get nerfed first tuning.

[green wharf]

this is blizzard trick actually

make war shit till lv 17

everyone reroll DK

them they nerf the shit out of dk and dont fix war

[rancid granite]

u can still play arms; practice for when it gets buffed at season start

think of it as training in weighted vest like goku

[green wharf]

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonball-weights-weighted-weighted-gear-goku-gif-12959491

[rancid granite]

IT'S WHAT IM DOING

keep warrior geared as arms

[scarlet trout]

remember when Syegfryed glazed me

i remember

[rancid granite]

play rogue or monk til its good

[solemn elm]

rock lee weights

[lyric violet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/game-jeu-sisyphus-l1J9NSnTNbdyaOZag

pov: arms main

[scarlet trout]

ok so who was gonna tell me that skirmish is elo-less

cause i just wasted my time fighting two 5 time gladiators for the last 5 seasons

almost won but still

[solemn elm]

every one qing skirms cause nothing else to do

[torn sigil]

In actual fact it was never even close

[scarlet trout]

hey

getting 1 kill

is like half the battle

1 out of 2 aint bad

if i had half of 1 million dollars thats still a lot of money actually

[torn sigil]

I mean you only lost the cost of the lotto ticket(zero mmr)

[tough estuary]

Guys sorry if this has been asked, for S1 what hero tree will fury warrior be using? Mountain thane or slayer?

[spice hornet]

Thane so far because slayer does negative fam

Dam

[sharp meteor]

thane rn

tuning on the 17th

subject to change etc

[tough estuary]

F ty guys i pref slayer yeah

[tough estuary]

Prayge

[spice hornet]

Rend buffs

Yay

[sharp meteor]

5% more deep wound dmg

[torn sigil]

5% buff on nothing after fully multiplied 10k execute

Unreal

[tough estuary]

I only play to 1800 to get the set, i know were bad rn but for that rating, its playable right? I do both pve and pvp, if warr is real bad pvp i might skip

[torn sigil]

Literally play 20 blitz games a month into season

[tough estuary]

I do solo shuffle, blitz feel so random

[torn sigil]

Are you 1800?

[tough estuary]

Not in blitz no

[exotic forge]

Make your bingo cards for March 17th

I have mine ready

[torn sigil]

If 1800 is hard for you wait until end of season inflation

[tough estuary]

I get it usually in solos or arena but yeah that might be the plan, i dont like how mountain thane plays

[torn sigil]

Fury thane is the only viable warr

[tough estuary]

Yeah but maybe by mid season from buffs, hopefully theres other options, arms slayer or fury slayer

[dusky parrot]

arms is fine when youre crit colossus beating the pulp out of greenskins

[dusky parrot]

"He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how"

[real briar]

after getting full honor gear is there any point in honor when the season starts?

[sharp meteor]

Sockets.

[real briar]

ugh wish they did something more with honor.. like mogs or mounts or something

[sharp meteor]

Gold is nice.

[boreal veldt]

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

when do i press slam

[exotic forge]

What's your haste

[urban skiff]

guys rate my gear

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Fully geared guardian druid having a blast in voidstorm killing me right now

[exotic forge]

I rate it crit mastery out of haste

real stupid fine

[urban skiff]

I actually feel marginally less bad about my stupid high crit chance now I realize I have the crit dmg talent

I've just equipped highest ilvl

[worn sandal]

Does anyone have PvP talents for Arms or Fury?

[green wharf]

we are playing other game as warriors

[idle falcon]

Hello fellow warriors

[idle falcon]

Yeah uhh

GL

XD

I don't think it's possible to climb as warrior without having a ret paladin as your duo

Or holy paladin

One of the two

You need a paladin in your game

But if ur up against a mage it's joever

[green wharf]

its amazing how a ret can melt you down from 100 to 20% in one wake of ashes cast

and you have fuck all to survive

and even if you by miracle turn around

-> lay on hands
->bubble
->shield
->walk away with horse

[idle falcon]

And they nerfed second wind low hp healing because it was "too op"

Whoever decided avatar needed to not remove roots

Is defo a mage player

Or any class other than warrior

That confirms that we don't have a dev

All other class devs are making up shit to make us in a middle ground of not too shit but not good at all

[green wharf]

they nerfed because prot pvp talent

[distant cloud]

we thinking mast or haste for weaps rn

[green wharf]

we dont know anything yet

cause war is dogshit and we need to wait for the big 17th update

[dusky parrot]

12% crit is 20%

[urban skiff]

this is my ilvl, and it's taking like 5 people to kill me

and there was a ret and fire mage present

I can't wait to buy gear, I feel super tanky already

at 9% vers

[pure hornet]

Just a question
Any of you guys noticed slight performance drop from 16 years to 42?

I fee my eyes and reflexes are not as sharp

[urban skiff]

you mean the body deteriorates with age?

wild

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

I feel my age in some places but not all of them

But I'm also on steroids so

[pure hornet]

I feel in eyes

At night i tire faster
Can play 3 hours then i suc

When i was a kid i could play 6- to 20 hours

[pure hornet]

Dont tell anybody

[urban skiff]

Only reason I can't keep going like I used to, is because I have to share my energy with my kids

But it's normal to fall apart with age

DNA telomeres getting worn down

Body constantly fighting off beginning cancer etc

permanent damage can only accumulate over time

[pure hornet]

Wow

What a sweet future you describe

I’m thrilled

[urban skiff]

@green wharf i need a mog that suits these shoulders

[pure hornet]

How old are you?

[urban skiff]

I began mourning my mortality and impending death when the doctor described the later years as "the fall"

(like the season)

Spring is first, then summer is your late teens to late twenties

then comes fall and a long winter, with no spring in sight

[pure hornet]

Can i please not see any rust untill i am 89? Ty

[urban skiff]

And if we're lucky we only have to endure a few minutes of absolutely excruciating pain because of a heart attack in the middle of the night when we're barely there

[frail lake]

I just got hit with 2 consecutive 125k aimed shots followed by a RF and a 60k killshot crit.
Meanwhile my BT and exe are happy to pass 20k

Glorious state of gameplay

[pure hornet]

I am 41 so hope i still run 50 more yesrs

How old are you zerch?

[pure hornet]

Hope it will get better on 17 march

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

turning 40 in some months

[pure hornet]

Nice
We’re allmost twins

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/malinda-malinda-kathleen-reese-spoiler-spoiler-alert-dont-make-me-gif-17263945

[frail lake]

Im also debating to finally trans horde so i can win some bgs

[pure hornet]

Trans just with mercenary change

No for reals

Nothing beats gnome

[pure hornet]

I feel this update will be huge for warrior

We will even beat the crap out of frost mage
You’ll see

[frail lake]

Id never ever EVER play a gnome, not even if im getting paid

Id rather sit in a frostnova for 3 days

[pure hornet]

Masochism

[green wharf]

cant beat what you cant reach

[pure hornet]

They will provide 5 charges of heroic strike

[urban skiff]

not even a full group and just consistently losing

because I'm joining bgs people are leaving because it's a loss

[frail lake]

Alliance problems 101. The real reason bg queue doesnt take long

[urban skiff]

this was a warlock

[urban skiff]

this hasn't been a problem all of TWW

we have 3 healers, they have 9

The issue is pseudo premades

[green wharf]

[frail lake]

What in the world is twilight barage

Sounds like u got hit by the airship in ashran, no?

[urban skiff]

I was deep underground by the solar

but in ashran, yes

wait, what airship in ashran? Airship is IoC?

[frail lake]

Yeah i misstook the bgs i meant ioc

I have no clue what u got hit by then. P sure thats not a warlock spell

[urban skiff]

there was a mw monk present too

[boreal veldt]

🫴 🇼 🇭 🇾

[urban skiff]

dunno, but here's my daily life

it's taking at least two people to at all fight me and I'm not wearing gear yet

lol

[solemn elm]

gotta be gnome

don’t have anymore root breaks

[regal spindle]

i cant keep up with pally cds in bgs right now, holy hell feels like there shield is up a lot

Could just be a gear thing

[green wharf]

well we have bladestorm

[wheat jay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/KPRtnVXSHTE?is=ZPrX4bj6PJsM8tdS

[frail lake]

Full set yada yada. Orc just looks better than human

[fierce elm]

OH MY GOD FULL SET L L L L

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Looks nifty

[frail lake]

Orc wears it better, cant explain why

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-ltg-ban-this-bot-delete-messages-bot-spam-gif-14610588642106395216

[frail lake]

Im sure itd look great on a... gnome.

[lavish quest]

I play orc

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1479870564645601361/image.png?ex=69ad9c5d&is=69ac4add&hm=616fe947ffb90a1813fc451155b861dc5aa5cd707e57123173e2da935a191330&

[frail lake]

Im thinking of transing my main to orc for like a week now. I still hate the new human models. And they changed them like.. 10 years back lol

[urban skiff]

@green wharf

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

the fuck

from where

[urban skiff]

found out my bags were just filled to the brim with ilvl 220+ boe's?

they sell for at least 30k, sometimes up to 150k

[frail lake]

From where

[lavish quest]

The male night elf update is a war crime

[fierce elm]

the rich get richer

smh

[lavish quest]

I'd probably be human if I wasn't a meta slave (except I refuse to gnome so orc next best)

[frail lake]

Male nightelf is a warcrime

[lavish quest]

Old male night elf was dope

ragey

[fierce elm]

aren't you still a prot paladin main

[lavish quest]

No, it's BREWMASTER

[fierce elm]

AIGHT MY BAD G

[frail lake]

Isnt nelf meta after gnome tho

[lavish quest]

How are you in here 24/7 and not picked up on that

[fierce elm]

I have a very short memory

[lavish quest]

Don't think so for warrior

[fierce elm]

Not for warrior

HMT/Orc/Human all rank higher

even regular Tauren probably lmao

[green wharf]

are eu people buying this?

[lavish quest]

Can meld cc's if you're xxgod_gamerxx but orc stun duration down and on use cd

[frail lake]

Alright

[fierce elm]

Be rich in WoW, buy BoEs

But yea they buy them

I sold a few and my gold is up to 50k now

I fucked up and bought an old TWW enchant, trying to check if it works on current gear for 800 gold. It didn't, it resold within 10 seconds

[frail lake]

If you play raid, m+ and pvp, what would you play war as if pvp isnt first prio

[fierce elm]

Orc

[lavish quest]

Yeah probably still orc

Still has blood fury

[fierce elm]

Nelf is good in M+ but falls off in raid and PvP

[fierce elm]

Orc is decent across all three

but I would never Race-maxx if I didn't like the looks of it

[frail lake]

I hate nelf and gnome so much i cant even begin to tell you how much

[lavish quest]

I do somewhat race Maxx because I'm a nerd

[frail lake]

Since my priest is an undead anyways might aswell swap to the dork side

[fierce elm]

I will not be race-maxxing in PvE : (

Currently Orc but that is probably changing to HMT

[lavish quest]

I don't pve race max

[frail lake]

Optics > efficiency

[lavish quest]

But everything pvps

[fierce elm]

Though going HMT means accepting the lack of headgear

and the new set probably looks dumb as fuck on them

[green wharf]

[frail lake]

Every gear is already broken on tauren anyways

[green wharf]

pve you just pick whaever, you dont rly need a race

[fierce elm]

I mean

[green wharf]

not gonna make you play better

[fierce elm]

technically

[frail lake]

Makes me look better tho

[urban skiff]

unironically the hardest weekly in the game

[fierce elm]

but Vulpera is also 3k-4k dps behind on sims compared to Troll/Panda/Orc

[green wharf]

these 0.5% increase are

[frail lake]

Endgame is fashion

[lavish quest]

#removeracials

[urban skiff]

because it has to target players, not npcs

[fierce elm]

you need me to go there

[lavish quest]

But players are in there all the time

[fierce elm]

Im boutta go ONLINE

[fierce elm]

its 10am on a Sunday here rn lmao

[green wharf]

arcantina sounds so fucking dumb

[urban skiff]

the pve gains are neglible compared to what racials can do in pvp. If doing both and you HAVE to be meta, go for pvp meta > pve meta choices

[green wharf]

the name

[urban skiff]

arcane cantina, it's perfect name

[frail lake]

I already forgot the arcantina exists lol

[lavish quest]

It's 5 am on a Sunday here

[fierce elm]

Ya, I don't really give a fuck over race-maxxing

But HMT is fucking cracked in PvP

[urban skiff]

KTHuman too

1% higher damage

[regal spindle]

Hmt?

human?

[fierce elm]

Highmountain Tauren

[regal spindle]

oooh

[sand sundial]

true american icon that one

[fierce elm]

speaking only for Non-healers and Non-Warriors

[regal spindle]

oh

lol

[urban skiff]

And built to tank fdk, frost mage, ele, moonkin, etc

[fierce elm]

Warrior is locked into gnome as the objectively best race

that actually matters in PvP lmao

[urban skiff]

and make the money

kt human is the perfect all-round race

[regal spindle]

yeah but i hate being a gnome, i like being green

not taht it matters for me, im dogshit

[frail lake]

Could be brown

[fierce elm]

Waiting to see if they 'fix' HMT or not before I racechange my DK

[urban skiff]

I need worgen shaman though

[fierce elm]

lmao

[sand sundial]

gnome 🤢

[urban skiff]

at least two weeks into the season

[fierce elm]

yeah and its gonna SUCK

[urban skiff]

Just be rich and ready to swap twice

tbh

[fierce elm]

: (

[urban skiff]

I don't think I'll ever be rich enough that I'll spend money like that

[frail lake]

Das why the x6 bundle is so cheap

[fierce elm]

also for those wondering what this is, its the 2 set damage rings from dungeons

[regal spindle]

wut the fuck

[fierce elm]

I'd just accept my shame of being HMT tbh

[green wharf]

i rather delete my character and level up another one

[urban skiff]

finally above 2m gold again, took a while when I do nothing at all actively

[frail lake]

Wait whqt

[frail lake]

Youre telling me that stuff can hit 200k in pvp

Beyond busted

[fierce elm]

World PvP, yes

[urban skiff]

ashran actually

[fierce elm]

Ahsran PvP yes

but yeah, it has probably snuck past the PvP modifiers

happens every season lmao

[urban skiff]

would be pretty cool if epic bgs were considered warmode actually, now I think about it

for warmonger set etc

I'm going to have so much fun on my rogue with 4x warmonger 4x tier pieces in world pvp

[green wharf]

Do you think the set bonus from the wpvp honor gear is whothy the loss of ilvm

Ilv

[urban skiff]

ABSOLUTELY YES

OH MY GOD YES

YESSSS

[fierce elm]

lmao

[green wharf]

Its like 13 ilvs behind

[fierce elm]

If you wanna hyper optimize world PvP, probably

[green wharf]

I have 2, but dunno if ita worthy

[urban skiff]

the set bonus is like ilvl increase that doesn't work in dungeons,

[lavish quest]

Gotta drive to work, stay good kids

[urban skiff]

expect those numbers to be chosen specifically because they will match the ilvl increase

[green wharf]

It doesnt seem like its giving any verst

[fierce elm]

boutta drop a sick slur

Okay blizzard what hte FUCK

[urban skiff]

time to fix this nonsense

[urban skiff]

I suspect we're only seeing the off pieces until season starts

just a hunch

oh wait, i think my druid has head

[fierce elm]

I have seen people wear full warmonger gear

yeah

it is purely RNG lmao

[urban skiff]

Then it's just the regular RNG math

[fierce elm]

boutta level my Paladin just because this annoys me

[urban skiff]

The drops are the same for everyone btw

only random between armor types

[fierce elm]

what the FUCK

[urban skiff]

My druid and rogue has the same pieces on the world map

[jovial torrent]

first day had a bunch of main body stuff

[urban skiff]

my haste just won't go up

wth

[jovial torrent]

think i have wep shoulders belt on mage

[urban skiff]

875 honor to go until cap

gear cap*

[green wharf]

It gave 8 cloaks for the week or something

"Rng"

I dunno if i lv my zandalari or tauren for ret

Im pretty sure 8m used the bad zanda racial cause i dunno where i change

[urban skiff]

You change the zanda racial in zanda capitol

The hall with all the statues

[fierce elm]

thats not wow

[urban skiff]

Playing minecraft with kid and wife

Then gym, then eat lunch

life is good

[fierce elm]

I am side questing : )

[idle falcon]

I'm watching a romance anime

[urban skiff]

on alt?

[urban skiff]

been meaning to watch spice and wolf for a while

Still waiting for the barbarian's bride or whatever it's called

[idle falcon]

haven't heard of that one before

currently watching horimiya

well rewatching

xd

my fav romance

[fierce elm]

no : (

[idle falcon]

im planning on watching uzaki chan wants to hang out after

[dusky parrot]

planning on doing fent

[green wharf]

i know is there, i enver found the place

and im too lazy to find where exactly

[obtuse wedge]

just almost got my ass beat by a lvl 86 enh sham as a lvl 90 arms...

[urban skiff]

did you ask a guard?

[obtuse wedge]

i killed him but idk if the victory outweighed the shame

lol

[fierce elm]

dude just getting rolled

[obtuse wedge]

my dreams of getting glad are

diminished

[urban skiff]

time to level warrior soon I think

Just gotta gear up my rogue and dh first

[jovial torrent]

shadowguard is back on calamitous rotation so big xp

[obtuse wedge]

i gotta level something else ima see how survival is maybe

i jsut hate the dam boomstick

i gotta see if im complete ass or if its arms that does no damage and feels like its made of wet paper

[wheat jay]

Im gonna make a wild assumption

And say its both

[fierce elm]

Gotta reroll before season even launches

smh

[lavish quest]

Do a trick!
Aka I can't do anything but delete it and time out

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

But Vel friended me so surely I got connections now

:Clueless:

[fierce elm]

surely

[torn sigil]

Is arms warr a slur yet

[fierce elm]

ban this guy

[lavish quest]

Charity case

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm rate this build
#pvp message

I like the idea of spamming BT

[fierce elm]

I have no idea

but eveyr furry warr out there is saying they dont have tiem to hit RB

[green wharf]

its honestly not bad, cause there is so many BT modifiers

and RB is doing piss

[wraith sluice]

do we have a good all around build for rnd bgs for now ?

[green wharf]

[wraith sluice]

the one feature a lot of raging blow talents ... but as i saw so farm rb got pretty muich undertuned or isnt that correct anymore ?

[urban skiff]

raging blows is just so fucking boring

it's like "bt the worse"

[fierce elm]

aight finishing amani didn't take much time @lavish quest

had 500 rep from the dungeon left too

[lavish quest]

None of the reps are hard to get to the champ gear thresholds

Get in ther'

[fierce elm]

crazy that it wants me to take the vers neck though

It wants me to just upgrade my neck when I get the champion piece

aight SIMS

[sand sundial]

it may be time for the 2 week minecraft

[urban skiff]

i have that all the time

[urban skiff]

go do it

remember shaders

while it's still cold and we're still heating the home instead of cooling it, PCs are 100% energy efficient

all the energy either goes into graphics or heat, which is perfect

COP greater than 1

[fierce elm]

go make pancakes

[lavish quest]

Yeah don't bother with that. Only care about ilvl for now

[fierce elm]

I mean it was 40 gold lmao

Since no crests due to having s higher ilvl item

[lavish quest]

Needless sweating

And I only have 5-6 mil gold

I am POOR

[fierce elm]

lmao

I NEED TO SWEAT

[green wharf]

yep fury def feels better smh

[urban skiff]

looks good

[jovial torrent]

how do u make thic style pancakes like that, we usually make crepes style

[fierce elm]

Flour, egg, some sugar for caramelization, baking powder

[jovial torrent]

i see americans just make their batter a bit dryer and dont mix as much

[fierce elm]

then making the batter thiccc with a triple C

You should be able to dollop down a spoonful without it spreading out like crazy

[jovial torrent]

i need to actually try make some american style, ive gotten some predone shop ones but not the same

[fierce elm]

They are my preferred pancake

the crepe style is nice

but this is more cake-y

Plus you can get some more crispy edges into the fluffy middle

[jovial torrent]

crepes good foor like filling them or putting some sugar/lemon on it then rolling it up

what i really want to make soon is some good smash burgers

[urban skiff]

I'm about to join a gym maybe. What gear do i buy to really ruffle some feathers on the regulars who aren't advanced past the judgment stage yet?

Already got fingerless gloves and soft neoprene belt on my list. What else?

@fierce elm @copper fox

[urban skiff]

Reason i like American pancakes is they show when they're done on one side, and holes = more syrup per pancake

[fierce elm]

Golds gym stringer or compression sleeveless tank, short shorts, crocs

[urban skiff]

Choice between toe shoes and crocs, which wins?

[fierce elm]

Toe shoes

I have not gotten past the judgmental state. BACK in my days you werent allowd a tank before 100kg bench

I am a grumpy old man fueled by my grumpy need

[urban skiff]

Oh fuck, i should shave my head to get like a half moon and then grow sides and neck out

[fierce elm]

Gloves, whatever who cares, Neoprene belt who cares probs got some issues idk

[urban skiff]

Fannypack

[fierce elm]

But if I spot you wearing a golds gym stringer in the gym grunting loudly while observing asshole behavior

then I will judge you

the fannypack goes dummy hard though

[urban skiff]

I'm pretty far past the point where that could bother anyone following that

[fierce elm]

It doesn't bother me really

I just people-observe between sets

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/master-kung-fu-hustle-stephen-chow-bow-down-teach-me-gif-9267817387126861541

Iike this guy

[fierce elm]

My heart is beating hard enough that if I don't focus I just pass out post set anyways

[urban skiff]

I think i'm hoping to bother the segment who thinks 90kg bench is big shit and that they are better than everyone else

Not the ones benching 150kg for warmuo

[fierce elm]

I mean you just gotta be big enough and non-chalant enough

and that impacts them

[urban skiff]

Yea but it hits harder if i'm goofy as fuck
I think

Full Hello Kitty stringer shirt with nipples out. Painted toenails and like flipflops

[rancid granite]

literally how i imagine afro

but i can see that with you too

[fierce elm]

what the fuck lmao

I wear baggy clothing that is torn because I contribute emotional value to those

[urban skiff]

Wife almost convinced to let me to bald. Might be able to rock a moon or monk haircut a few times

[fierce elm]

SO is trying to hold me from becoming full bald

I am thinning brothers

It is time soon

[rancid granite]

do it and then ask forgiveness 🙏

[wheat jay]

never go bald

if youre bald

blame genes

weak hair bloodline

[fierce elm]

Have they not fixed this yet lmfao

[urban skiff]

M8 i'm sick of having my hair cut and having to wash and dry it all the time. Hair so thick a comb easily gets stuck in it and my barber charges extra

[fierce elm]

also the fucking dummies in silvermoon are too bunched together

[urban skiff]

Dummies are too close to each other and there's no pvp dummy.

Eeee

[rancid granite]

there is

[fierce elm]

: )

[rancid granite]

just not in the same space as the other dummies

[fierce elm]

WHERE

[rancid granite]

theres some like off to the side

[fierce elm]

Oh there actually is

[rancid granite]

there iirc?

[urban skiff]

I couldn't see it. I also didn't look.

[fierce elm]

They are also bunched too close

someone tell me why DK has a healing reduction and absorb

[urban skiff]

Wear this to the gym

[green wharf]

cause is a proper designed class

[fierce elm]

: 3

[green wharf]

unlike warrior

[wheat jay]

lmao

[fierce elm]

Time to get my HARATI renown

[urban skiff]

What do you need the rep for?

[fierce elm]

champion belt

[lavish quest]

How are you so SLOW

[fierce elm]

stop : (

I was OFFLINE

Renown grind or skirmishes

SKIRMISHES IT IS

: (

God just like 6k renown

[rancid granite]

renown grind for a belt??

i thought those items were for rp'ers

renown is for MOGS

[fierce elm]

: (

I NEED THE 6 ILVLS

I need to be optimal

[lavish quest]

Afro uber casual

[fierce elm]

then I just have to do weekly events and m0 next week

However, I might just wait with this until next week

because the idea of it makes me puke

[rancid granite]

im only kidding anyway it's fun to do all of it at the start of an expac

or a new area

[fierce elm]

the things a man does when m+ and PvP aren't out

[rancid granite]

get rep and loot for no reason other than to do i

like explore the game and get stff ✌️

[fierce elm]

also grabbing the easy mounts to get

because they look nifty

[rancid granite]

i think the real play is finish campaign and spam bg's til 90

[fierce elm]

Grab your alt, run every delve at 80-81 for quests

main story+sides in silvermoon

then main story all the way tot he end

Turn in delve quests, craft

[rancid granite]

1 bar of xp and 600 honor for winning orb map at 88

you get free gear too

swear i got 1.8 bars that win actually

[fierce elm]

yeah but can't win as horde 😠

[rancid granite]

alliance stormrage here so :)

[green wharf]

leveling is such a

[rancid granite]

aren't normal bg's randomized still

[green wharf]

imma wait timewalking until i spam dungeons