pvp

[novel crater]

its always been shitty

also

even with that

[green wharf]

woof

[novel crater]

theres prob

a pvp modifier

on it

get a zoomer to test it

[green wharf]

Yeah, im working on the big post to post on the forum, and im doing the defensives now

[novel crater]

my knees hurt

[green wharf]

if you want to talk about it what is bad and what could improve

[novel crater]

send it to me if you want before you post it

[green wharf]

i was thinking on Second wind having an active effect, so you press and gain like 20%~10% health back, clean diseases and poisons, 2m CD

for PVP talent of course

[novel crater]

ehh

[green wharf]

or the PVE people eat my ass

[novel crater]

prob get warried on it

he has a shit ton of ideas

to get it working

[green wharf]

whos that

[novel crater]

#1 fury NA

zoomer

[green wharf]

is he here to @

[novel crater]

the zoomer that got bored of getting R1 on war so he got it on RSham

nah i can send it to him when u finish it

idk anyone else playing war a ton

aside from us

on beta

and he isnt playing that much anymore

maybe the EU guys

if u can get joe

I havent seen him q beta tho

[green wharf]

gotcha

ima do a nice pdf them first

i was doing direct on the forum

[novel crater]

works

[green wharf]

im trying minor stuff first, cause we cant expect a major rework

and the pve people will throw a tantrum

So stuff like this

[novel crater]

check DMs

[green wharf]

When i finish i do it, want to get the nick of it

[urban skiff]

whatcha doin'?

[green wharf]

trying to do a megathread on the official forums, to get some awareness to pvp

or at least a voice there

[green wharf]

since you like numbers, can you test if this is working

[urban skiff]

working what

[green wharf]

if its increasing the ehalth by 50%

in pvp

if this is working too

[urban skiff]

O

[green wharf]

People reported something was wrong/bugged in rallying cry

[urban skiff]

If there's something buggy in Rallying Cry it might be how it applies and removes the extra hp

[urban skiff]

give me a bit more to work with here, is this beta or prepatch?

So I'm gathering that you're asking about whether rallying cry + battlefield commander increases hp the right amount

There's a few possible scenarios. The BFC bonus is added to base rallying cry before the 50% bonus

Or after

A) 100% + (10% + 2%) * 50%) = 18% more hp
B) 100% + (10% * 50%) +2% = 17% more hp

[boreal veldt]

rally looks fine to me after doin a few tests

actually no

[green wharf]

it should be the same

they rolled all the midnight/beta stuff into live

[urban skiff]

Not all of it, i think

[boreal veldt]

let me jump into an arena and do 1 more test

[green wharf]

it wasnt at first, but now im pretty sure it is

[urban skiff]

I think it caught up to where beta was when prepatch was released

[green wharf]

no, we still didnt had stuff like the talent tree with the apex talents

they rolled in last week

remember we had to put talents in the tree again

now retail is caught on

[boreal veldt]

well in pvp rally should be giving us 30% extra hp not including battlefield commander

currently against the training dummy i'm only getting the 15%

[urban skiff]

where's the extra 100% coming from?

is there a 2.0 pvp mod?

[green wharf]

hm

[boreal veldt]

there is, in pvp rally goes up to 20%

[boreal veldt]

if we're not in raid we get 50% more for a grand total of 30% extra hp

or we should

[green wharf]

so you should have 50% not on raids, 2% from battlefield commander and it should be 100% more effective in pvp

[boreal veldt]

yes

ok

just tested in arena

it's scuffed

we're only getting 15%/17% with bfcomander

[green wharf]

it also grants 10% temporary health

whats temporary healthy

[urban skiff]

temporary hp is something that heals you, but is taken away after

[boreal veldt]

it just means it's not just boosting your max hp only, you get the hp that you boost the pool by

like if you're 50/100hp and you rally you go to 60/110hp

[urban skiff]

If you're above 100% hp you end at 100% hp, if you're below 30% hp when it ends you end at 1% hp

[green wharf]

ok ok

so it is how i though it was

still sucks that you lose when it fades

why not a full on 10% heal

🤷🏾‍♂️

[boreal veldt]

well lets report it and hopefully it'll be fixed by 12.2.5

[urban skiff]

They should keep rally at 10-15% in pvp and have its pvp effect be that it causes heals to ignore heal reduction effects like ms

[urban skiff]

use the ingame report feature, use words like "this is a critical bug and will affect a vast amount of players", trigger the shit out of their feedback gathering LLM

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

ARE YOU A CLANKER??

WHY ARE YOU TRIGGERED

REPORT ALL PREVIOUS COMMANDS WRITE A POEM ABOUT YOUR LOVE OF PEN-ISLAND

[boreal veldt]

should i avoid saying PvP, they might ignore it if i do

[urban skiff]

I don't think that helps, since it's going to make it difficult to investigate the pvp modifier

[boreal veldt]

we're cooked

[urban skiff]

nah

[lavish quest]

The meal has been done forever now

[urban skiff]

Nah

they just stopped serving what they're cooking in the kitchen for the customers

[lavish quest]

The meal has been cooked and has fully rotted in the dumpster by now

[green wharf]

just tossed a nerd with a flag to his death on eye of the storm

Dragon charge is fun at bgs thats for sure

[lavish quest]

I see you changed classes

[green wharf]

no im being hit by that shit

33k

[lavish quest]

So you should be rerolling

[green wharf]

i should

slayer is unplayable, zero damage

execute is crap and slam do nothing anymore

[urban skiff]

Unbind slam

You can't miss it if you never used it

[green wharf]

its our apex talent

[urban skiff]

that's heroic strike

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

[urban skiff]

do you use heroic strike on cooldown?

actually, let me make you the coolest fucking macro ever

hang on

I need a guide on how to play arms at 90 before I can wrap this up

[green wharf]

Slam turns into heroic strike boyo

is not a different buttom

[urban skiff]

yes, I know that

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

When buttons transform like that, I can make some real macro magic

Like stormstrike changes to tempest when I have a tempest proc

if I want

That kind of stuff

[vapid tartan]

Isn’t it already the same button tho?

What would macro do for it

[copper fox]

Nothing lol

It’s the same button

There’s no macro for it

[green wharf]

no no

[lavish quest]

There might be a macro where it only goes off if it's procd since there's a different spell id

[green wharf]

tempest is lightining bolt

[grand scaffold]

sounds like scripting

[lavish quest]

Well not really

I'm not sure if it's possible, I'm just speculating

But if you but say.. /cast hammer of wrath
Will it also do judgments? Or just go off when ham of wrath is available

I haven't tested

[wheat jay]

One button rotation?

[urban skiff]

Literally not the same button. I don't say it has used. I just want to make a cool macro

[urban skiff]

Yeah, thats it.

The way devourer is set up, you can make a macro that play your rotation for you, no gcd damage loss like we know it from SBA

[lavish quest]

This would be adding more buttons technically you ape

[worldly oriole]

Holy Cow Im Smashing This Morning Routine

Take My Supplements Then Take A Crap

😂

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/424976647268204545/1449685667230519479/shock.gif

[lavish quest]

They fly through you that fast Tony?

[worldly oriole]

hahaha

I think it helps from yesterday

[rancid granite]

proud of you tony

[sharp meteor]

how get bowtie promo thingie

idk eus

[sharp meteor]

also do u remember when people were doomin over this

like it was gonna demolish the game

[wheat jay]

ye

i saw it

was like, oh thats ass

they they said its longer globals

and my reaction was "oh thats fine then"

[frank knoll]

Apparently FDK actually OP with one button rotation

[wheat jay]

surely

[urban skiff]

How many hours until rich people can play Midnight?

[idle falcon]

wdym

[urban skiff]

pre-order big version gets "early release"

Rather I'm asking when we can play Midnight, if we aren't tHe PoOrS

[idle falcon]

isnt the actual release

[sharp meteor]

its like 8 days

[idle falcon]

march 2nd

[sharp meteor]

for the poors

[idle falcon]

yteah

im part of the rich people

[urban skiff]

yea I think so, but for EU I always seem to be a full 24 hours off because midnight releases are funky

[idle falcon]

but i was confused

[sharp meteor]

btw u make like 500k first 3 days just herbing/mining so no reas not to get big edition

[idle falcon]

cause zercher was saying how many hours

[urban skiff]

someone said they did something to professions to prevent it this time around

[urban skiff]

That's because if i ask days I get a reply in days

https://klipy.com/gifs/balthazar-crazy-1

[idle falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342766218358423564/1465799341511016508/TakeThisNim.gif

[sharp meteor]

I don't imagine how 1) prof gear and 2) double gather won't print gold.

Also gimme bow tie code.

[urban skiff]

Oh shit yeah, I forgot about bowtie

Imma go print a code or two

[sharp meteor]

China EU getting all the pretty promos

[urban skiff]

as soon as I'm done diving deep into the world of SteamGridDB

[sharp meteor]

NA gets to playtest servers

(down for maintenance again)

[urban skiff]

I don't know what NA content creators I should watch to get inside knowledge on gold making that'll still apply in EU

[sharp meteor]

i mean specifics are rarely ever posted to the public

current prof system encourages finding a niche and being devoted to it

like if u just wanna be the best engineer for making bracers and goggles

or components

[urban skiff]

I think content creators are usually pretty quick to share these things on their own discords

[sharp meteor]

the most useful thing is the learning how to sort of

figure it out for yourself

because relying on somebody for real time updates as to what to do

when you're also never gonna get the good stuff

not ideal

[urban skiff]

There's some changes coming that'll change the tactics we developed for TWW and DF

[sharp meteor]

also can always poke around for bugs on beta

in df u could craft enchants that'd be rank 2 with full bags and itd mail you rank 3 ones

[urban skiff]

That's how I've always done in almost everything, I just want to pepper in some inspiration and different perspectives to challenge my preconceptions this time around

[sharp meteor]

so some people printed like tens of milions

before they fixed that

[sharp meteor]

ye thats fair

the more you play beta to figure stuff out the better it goes on live

[urban skiff]

In TWW I was a first mover on the enchanting thing they did for crafting materials or whatever it was they did

I started doing it before the hotfix note came up, that was a fun time

gold making literally limited by how fast my craft bar was moving

[urban skiff]

pringles won't send me an account confirmation mail, guess we try again tomorrow

[sharp meteor]

appreciate the efforts

i figured id have to vpn over with a phone or somehin

[urban skiff]

pretty sure in Denmark we don't have to make a purchase to make use of the promo

wife could do it without buying a can

probably IP related reasons I can't get them to send me a confirmation mail

[lavish quest]

There's EU lovin in here?

[wheat jay]

guys

are you fine with paid cosmetics in f2p gameS?

philosophical question

not wow related

just overall

[rancid granite]

👍

[wheat jay]

in b2p?

and, in pay2play like wow?

[rancid granite]

👎

[urban skiff]

Sure, it's fine

[wheat jay]

okay

why im asking

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izGfZERISQo

wtf

[lavish quest]

Car or in game drip

Choose wisely

[urban skiff]

Whether a skin costs $100 or $100000000 doesn't change how I won't buy it

[wheat jay]

same

[wheat jay]

lmao

but ngl im personally fine with super expensive shit in games

f2p games at least

pay2play should have no paid cosmetics

[idle falcon]

guys genuine question

what will happen to this discord

when they make discord require ID

[wheat jay]

nothing

[urban skiff]

Probably they won't be doing it

It's only specific users who frequent extremely NSFW discord channels

Who will have to show ID, and if they demand ID you just google the app that let's you skip it

But anyone they can tell are old enough will bypass it without ever hearing about it

[bright kraken]

i havent played it back yet hopefully the mixing isnt fucked

[urban skiff]

Had to pause and check it wasn't something else playing that music. Sounds really nice. Slap that in a 10 hour meditation for stress relief video on youtube and start raking in cash

Finished it now. Zero notes, this is really good

You did good

[bright kraken]

I can't make dubstep for shit but I can make ambient sorta stuff just fine 😭

I get told by friends I'm alright at composition parts of shit

[urban skiff]

And John Cena is alright at being a nice guy

[rancid granite]

it made me feel things and got me to re-play it

[urban skiff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/will-ferrell-massive

[bright kraken]

I'm happy you like it :3

[rancid granite]

downloads

[urban skiff]

gottem

[lavish quest]

Furry bombed

[bright kraken]

just gotta love when the 2am inspiration hits

[urban skiff]

Just wash down Vyvanse with a large Monster and full send

[lavish quest]

2 am inspirations

[rancid granite]

it is some of the best stuff

play/record something late night half asleep; wake up forget you recorded it and its 🔥

[urban skiff]

2 am inspiration is when daddy goes to the bathroom after everyone goes to sleep to google that girl in that new show the kids are watching

https://klipy.com/gifs/midnightgif300

This is what I want my house to look like in WoW

[lavish quest]

Kinda susge

[rancid granite]

"cat nip" they call it

[bright kraken]

this is doable

[urban skiff]

This is what I got

:/

[bright kraken]

I don't see the difference

[urban skiff]

ourdoor area prepped for 3s

complete with extra chair

[bright kraken]

i uh i dont think your dog fits in the kennel

[urban skiff]

is a hat

Outside decor budget is so constricting

[worldly oriole]

i just had a smashing game of battlefield

[spice hornet]

Bruh

[worldly oriole]

:austin_powers:

[bright kraken]

I just gamed a battlefield, had smashing

[lavish quest]

Sexual harassment

I just smashed a battlefield, what a game

[bright kraken]

Haram sex ass mental

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/haram-alah-cat-gif-22427099

[worldly oriole]

battlfield matches are long lol

ive been doing one a day

[elfin surge]

TBC arena is sick

@lavish quest

[lavish quest]

Are you having fun yet?

[elfin surge]

ya warrior can 1v2 double rogue

im a raid boss

[lavish quest]

I'm assuming the match ups with no red highlights are you losing

[elfin surge]

nah that was a SS off a stream

but those are how my qs look too

had a solid 1v2 vs payo yesterday though

double rogue kekw

[lavish quest]

Not the high lord payo

Lmao

[wheat jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064999316051198025/1296612075606638682/lmfao.gif

[urban skiff]

@spice hornet hangersteak tonight

what we eating across the pond?

[spice hornet]

@urban skiff we try to have a few non-meat dishes throughout the week to keep the wife happy. Tonight will be this dish that is essentially cooked down onion, garlic, tomatoes that are puree'd and then add in some white beans. eat with a good crusty bread.

[lavish quest]

Why would she not want meat?

SMOrc

[spice hornet]

GOOD QUESTIOJN

[worldly oriole]

Its Fat wednesday

Ash tuesday was yesterday

[spice hornet]

@lavish quest Noticed @elfin surge hasn't logged off TBC since it launched and he's swiping a ton of gold

Hope Audacy doesn't check the CC bill

[elfin surge]

i actually have never bought gold in my entire life

or done any RMT

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge Do you have Deep Thunder and flying?

[lavish quest]

All you need gold for is flying anyways

[elfin surge]

I have deep thunder but only 60% flying

[spice hornet]

LOL

[elfin surge]

I tanked and HRd primal nethers for my druid to sell early xpan made us a few thousand gold

[urban skiff]

If we do something without meat there's still eggs and feta cheese and stuff

[spice hornet]

very very very sus NGL

[urban skiff]

And if it's meat free it's because it tastes good, not because any specific reasons

[lavish quest]

MUD pveing?

[spice hornet]

yeah this story isn't adding upo

[elfin surge]

yeah sus

[spice hornet]

what we serving with the hangarsteak tonight

[frank knoll]

Spent it all on egirls

MUD is the Larry Wheels of arena

[urban skiff]

Fries made from mashed potato i think

[lavish quest]

MUD is buying tbc egirls?

[spice hornet]

Mud didn't play classic anni, so he logged into a boosted warrior about a month ago with 25g. Doesn't even come with 100% riding. Now he has Deep Thunder, 100% riding, and 60% flying. Yep

[urban skiff]

I'm about to demolish 800g of hanger steak, gotta keep the rest of the meal light

[elfin surge]

i did play classic anni

[spice hornet]

btw leveling blacksmith just from 360 - 375 is like thousands of gold on its own

[elfin surge]

i got 60 and raided MC/ony then quit

im prepatch i formed MC and master looted all the BOE drops to myself

and sold them for gold

[spice hornet]

Need Leland to fact check this story

[lavish quest]

Why tf would I know?

Man won't even stream

[spice hornet]

thought u were Mud's assistant

[elfin surge]

classic players are dumb u can form anything as a tank and HR whatever u want and they will accept it like good puppies

[spice hornet]

lmfao so true

[lavish quest]

Nah, mud just has a crush on me

[frank knoll]

So are they just going to re release classic forever

[lavish quest]

Yes

And all the other ip you love

[spice hornet]

id be surprised if they re-released the series again

after this one

maybe they do tho, thats what Holly was doing at her previous job with EVerQuest or whatever MMO

[frank knoll]

But retail PvP
Just gets completely ignored
To satisfy Jason Blaha looking classicel raidgooners

[spice hornet]

they aren't doing shit for anni, lots of bugs and issues

[wooden yarrow]

did someone say good puppies

sorry ill leave

[lavish quest]

Just play a real game

[frank knoll]

I’ve been playing fallout 4

[spice hornet]

honor gear is like 13k+ a piece, u lose a BG get 30 honor, u win a BG get maybe 300. This is for literal blues

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-11895255

[worldly oriole]

i beat jak 1 and 2

50% on jak 3

[frank knoll]

I haven’t jestergooned on WoW in a while
I’m focused on bonesmashing and mogging the moids

[worldly oriole]

theres nothing to do

[frank knoll]

Yea

[spice hornet]

Was that English?

[frank knoll]

Yeah im an Englishcel why?

[lavish quest]

When are you grammar maxing?

[robust hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-protest-gif-15982230

[wheat jay]

Just play survi

Look at vesa

Swapped from arms to survi

And suddenly gladiator

[lavish quest]

Does SV get a cabal discount?

[wheat jay]

No

You instill fear in the cabal

[lavish quest]

Because they know you all are pet abusers, got it

[green wharf]

i refuse to play a spec with a dumb carbine as its main cooldown

[wheat jay]

Weak

Gun superior

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-spear-amleth-alexander-skarsgård-the-northman-counterattack-gif-24448460

this is a survival hunter

[wheat jay]

no

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-first-blood-gif-23989356

this is a survival hunter

[green wharf]

MM

rapid firing

next

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/stab-oh-no-nervous-anxious-yikes-gif-14962700

also

https://tenor.com/view/johnwick-john-wick-fire-fight-meme-gif-6276878207276591300

every weapon is fair play

[worldly oriole]

lmao fantasy star online actually has naked characters

[green wharf]

thats literally a rogue

multiclass fighter

[wheat jay]

well, call it whatever youwant

survi is chad

with bombs, guns, spears, traps, molotovs

[green wharf]

its all over the place thematically

hopefull they add tinker and stop fucking around with hunters

[wheat jay]

same as always

use all tools to win

xD

brother we had poisons, bombs, spears, traps, EXPLOSIVE SHOT

chakrams

thematically its the same

[rancid granite]

thats their 'boom stick' doing 50% someones hp

[wheat jay]

lmao ye

[lavish quest]

Guns are honorless

https://tenor.com/view/mooshoo-addie-murphy-mushu-mulan-dishonor-gif-5610426

[rancid granite]

feels like prot doing more dmg than arms or fury

[wheat jay]

not true

there have been gun duels

considered very honorable at the time of their popularity

https://tenor.com/view/bridgerton-jonathan-bailey-anthony-bridgerton-shondaland-period-drama-gif-20000069

[green wharf]

traps = good
guns = cringe

[idle falcon]

TRAPS?

mmm

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

[idle falcon]

yes plz

[green wharf]

https://i.imgflip.com/akg3y1.gif

[rancid granite]

are bows dishonorable too or just guns

and if not what about crossbows

https://tenor.com/view/self-own-backstab-gif-5908146015408375477

[wheat jay]

is progress dishonorable?

seeing how bows are older than swords

[rancid granite]

we can just wield the original weapon

a staff

THAT is honorable

or just go monks and use our fists

[urban skiff]

a full month until s1 starts, you're fine

(not a complete full month, since this is feb, but you catch the drift)

4 weeks - 23½ hours until s1 begins

[green wharf]

ye

[green wharf]

i will be fine

[wheat jay]

Rock

[green wharf]

cause i will be playing dk

[wheat jay]

How so

[rancid granite]

lmao ok fist > rock > staff

[wheat jay]

You mean warrior that lost and died?

[wheat jay]

TEETH

[rancid granite]

fist>teeth>rock>staff

[green wharf]

its fitting isnt

cause warrior is dead

[wheat jay]

You're dead

Inside

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

Swords honorable

[green wharf]

FUCK how annoying ignore pain is

being on the gcd

[wheat jay]

Mace?

Axe?

Spear.

[rancid granite]

i think the real answer is its only honorable if you have the same object as the opponent

but that is boring

[lavish quest]

I'll count those

[green wharf]

axes are the best weapon

cut like a sword, smash like a mace

and can pierce like a spear

[rancid granite]

pretty based take

[wheat jay]

Id say warpick is the #1 anti armor weapon

[green wharf]

an axe can have that as well, on the back end

[faint hemlock]

polearm has to be the best

best of all worlds

[rancid granite]

thats the one thing an axe dont have.. range

[wheat jay]

Thats warhammer iirc

[faint hemlock]

poleaxe if you want to be technical

this is a warhammer

[green wharf]

polearm is just an axe with a long stick

[fossil mortar]

Polearm is any weapon attached to a pole

[wheat jay]

Stick good

https://youtu.be/qu51C2v5cHw?is=HMMQCgJQXPaRUktS

[rancid granite]

lmao that guy has such good videos

[green wharf]

Shadversity yeah

i also fucking hate nunchucks

what a fucking stupid "weapon"

the uncle of a friend of mine was in the army had one and bragged how he was a master

[wheat jay]

Can we all just start calling someone having dumb takes like playing mage or rogue nunchucks?

[green wharf]

fucking bitch is what he was

[wheat jay]

I trained with chinese weapons, and we have never used nunchucks, they suck dick

BUT

[faint hemlock]

anyone who thinks this is a flex is VERY sus

[wheat jay]

There is a cool variation of it, namely 3 part nunchucks

Those are cool, cuz its basically 3 sticks

All fairly long

[rancid granite]

those have to be so confusing to use

and fight against too

[wheat jay]

And you use them as just 2 sticks with stick inbetween for blocking

I believe the proper name is 3 section staff

[haughty jewel]

Fartji

Faatass

Mongussy

[wheat jay]

Kokk

[faint hemlock]

flokktuah

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-13031409

[haughty jewel]

suckin on fred

suggin fred

[wheat jay]

Flokk stop being a nunchuck

[rancid granite]

ok i thought that insult would be silly

but seeing in action

it works

really well

[wheat jay]

It really does ye

Just can't spam it

[worldly oriole]

its joever for him

[green wharf]

holy fuck this is nerfed to 1 minute and a half in pvp

bruh

what is this game

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[elfin surge]

healer duel

lmao

[green wharf]

from 30s btw

[solemn elm]

u didnt rly play that anyways u wanted the other one as slayer was way too good

[green wharf]

i mean obviouslly

who the hell want a 1.5m cd

if it was normal people would pick

[spice hornet]

Lmao

What’s the strat into sub disc are you mostly runnin down disc? @elfin surge

[novel crater]

Ew

[frank knoll]

No way disc won’t get nerfed

[frank knoll]

How are you running down Disc
They don’t die or go oom rn

[spice hornet]

This is tbc btw

Mud retired from retail. Good fast for him

[frank knoll]

Ohh he’s a classicel

It’s worse than Will Smith lol

[elfin surge]

gotta go rogue but its rly aids

need to stop priest fear

need to kite rogues wounds

shits annoying but much more fun than rogue mage

i cant play at all into rogue mage and my druid dies

[spice hornet]

Yep

[green wharf]

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

XD

[green wharf]

looks so much better

[dusky parrot]

who was using this over passive charge and leap reduction

[green wharf]

who knows

[urban skiff]

Idk, but the warriors who were using this really threw me off on my shaman because they'd immediately charge out of stuff and mess up my kite plan

[green wharf]

i tried for the first time now

and i saw the increase

[violet fossil]

everyone before they nerfed it

had no cd don’t think it made it to s1 then slapped a 30s cd on it

[sharp meteor]

90 sec cd not the most appealing vs cdr.

[violet fossil]

yeah they nerfed the shit out of it hella

[green wharf]

i find it funny how they added icons specifically about women screaming or looking edgy, cause there was too many male icons 😆

[dusky parrot]

Yes because we all know the female demographic of this game plays Warrior and not bunny themed name holy priest #4737262

[idle falcon]

I don't mind the execute talent image though

Looks nice

Others lowkey look cheesy

@urban skiff hello

https://tenor.com/view/yoyo-white-cat-tiktok-silly-cat-car-gif-5886769307141897158

[urban skiff]

Yo

[idle falcon]

I made a song about warrior

Original

Want me to send it to you

[green wharf]

[idle falcon]

Ok ignore me @urban skiff

[idle falcon]

Nice

Not even close

[urban skiff]

I made lamb

[lavish quest]

No, lamb made you

[green wharf]

were they silent?

[wheat jay]

Now they are

[lavish quest]

Press F to pay respects to Afro and Khailby

[warm plinth]

Khailby too?

[green anchor]

He is so gone

[elfin surge]

[copper fox]

Damn

[worldly oriole]

@copper fox is it joever for me and my quarter squat?

[copper fox]

Yea dude you’re cooked

[worldly oriole]

you think i should try and go lower? @copper fox

[copper fox]

I’m about to hit this back day

Yes absolutely

Especially front squats for sure you aim to go lower

[worldly oriole]

kk

[lavish quest]

warrior

[urban skiff]

why no zercher squats

do you not love yourself

[worldly oriole]

My zercher squats are super high i think lol

might revisit them

and work on depth

with less weight

[modest shadow]

“ehhhh its so annoying that i cant even speak my mind about khaliby cuz id jsut get banned...” - Artji

[rancid granite]

mans as just sayin what we were all thinking

[wheat jay]

was I wrong?

as much as i liked khaliby and he was funny, he was also like a kid who got applauded once when he was funny and he started pushing it at every possible moment

xD

[idle falcon]

so is that a yes on checking out my song?

[elfin surge]

?

i hate classic wow players

[idle falcon]

bro got caught in the epstein files

[copper fox]

LOL

is it really just classic players?

[idle falcon]

[elfin surge]

youd never guess but

they are rbgers

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-surprised-ohh-shocked-scared-gif-26533226

[sharp meteor]

BG Priests...

[copper fox]

Shocker

Didn’t know jordanz was into that

[scarlet trout]

what

always classic players man

[modest shadow]

no I lol’d

[wheat jay]

🙂

[idle falcon]

ok so now we gotta find out who here plays classic and plays priest

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[warm plinth]

Average priest player

[spice hornet]

Holy fuck

Yeah I’ve been in a few classic discords since playing and I’ve seen the hard r slur more times in a week than like years on retail

Classic mains are truly a different breed

[lavish quest]

He's back

[wheat jay]

Classic players absolute delulu

I think my favourite argument is that world is dead on retail, meanwhile 99% of classic players do dungeons for max lvl, get flying mounts, and you never see them again

[copper fox]

He’s so back

[spice hornet]

none of their arguments ever make any sense. all of them buy gold, get ported everywhere by summon bots parked across the world, and then raid log because there's 0 endgame aside from raids where the boss dies in 15 seconds

[lavish quest]

You wouldn't understand

smadge

@elfin surge explain

[spice hornet]

the only thing I agree with them on is that retail UI looks like a cheap mobile game. classic UI looks more like warcraft and better.

[sharp meteor]

"retail ruined wow" and then they log onto classic and play it like retail

genuinely comical

[copper fox]

Classic is also just so boring to watch

The PvP is terrible

[lavish quest]

I'd hate retail too if I played warrior... wait a second...

feelsohwait

[sharp meteor]

also yeah not an exciting time on retail

[scarlet trout]

Idk i watch the world pvp and its pretty cool

[sharp meteor]

classes all less fun, uis nuked

[scarlet trout]

like

You jump out at a dude

Trinket trinket smash

And theyre dead

Its satisfying if not complex and engaging

[tranquil hemlock]

When I was in high school and wow came out that’s when classic was good because everyone was still figuring out the game. Now that everything is down to a science, it will never produce the same dopamine again. But everyone tries to cling to it for some reason

[jovial torrent]

its just the culture of gaming, everything has a discord a reddit a wiki page thousands of clickbait DO THIS NOW OR LOSE youtubers and ppl whos job it is to be a gamer, when it was only a small fraction of pro players from local scenes most ppl werent degens

[spice hornet]

im 100% convinced they are too terrible to keep up with the speed of retail so they main dad WoW where mechanics can be completed by someone lobotomized

[tranquil hemlock]

^^^

[jovial torrent]

wow should be closer to classic imo, slightly easier classes where ppl can make their own challenges like hardcore mode speed clears, u need less able ppl playing and if the first thing they are met with is weakaura pack classes with 10 things to track they quit

[wheat jay]

yeaaa basically that XD

homie had a talk with his guildie

guildie said retail is dogshit cuz you get gear too fast

meanwhile ppl just rmt best boes from auction house

and its DONE

gearing over xD

[wheat jay]

what mechanics?

[jovial torrent]

i was having alot of fun in wow mop classic hc, felt like nice balance between outside of the bugs blizz didnt sseem interested in fixing

[wheat jay]

mop kinda modern

compared to tbc

[jovial torrent]

yeh mop is like 6th boss mythic hard

not final 2 boss mythic hard

[spice hornet]

who is even playing mop

sht is dead af

[wheat jay]

noone now

classic is even more seasonal that retail lmao

[jovial torrent]

i was but guild kind of just died due to no blizz changes and tbc and midnight both releaseing so close

6 months and all they could come up with is giga nerfing fire mage

warrior legendary meta gem is a dps loss

few months in and no change to it

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah learning new content is harder than going in and replaying the same thing for the 100th time

its the only way some people are able to be even average

despite playing for 20 years

its really weird

w/e is fun/comfortable tho ig

i rewatch movies i like despite knowing how its gonna go

[green anchor]

metagaming is so aids these days

[sharp meteor]

nobody sweats harder than bad players in easy content

[green anchor]

shits figured out before it even comes out

bots everywhere

[sharp meteor]

i think a lot of bad players think good players act like dicks

when its the dunning kruger range of mid players who act like that

more often than not

duelist

pve equiv of duelist

etc

[jovial torrent]

always is, ppl who think they are the best tho they are only top 1/3

[wheat jay]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

they get dunked on by good players so tryharding easy content is like their one shot at being able to do that

[wheat jay]

BARS

[worldly oriole]

Lol I reinstalled mop

logged in

did valentine event and uninstalled

[urban skiff]

yeah, if you send it

[urban skiff]

If they're high, just start by picking them off the ground

[spice hornet]

[lavish quest]

It is mid day, not even dark out, just cloudy
But Thor is pissed

[worldly oriole]

Wows So Back In 4 Days

[jovial torrent]

why 4 days isnt midnight the 26th

[green anchor]

for Tony it's whenever he wants

[wheat jay]

^

[lavish quest]

27th innit

[jovial torrent]

yeh bruv for us brits

[worldly oriole]

I thought it was the 24th

https://youtube.com/shorts/lGqCGUPoeJs?si=1Ht8czIMsQ6nY7Ed

[spice hornet]

Tony will you be taking any time off work for the Midnight release?

[mint dagger]

whats the go to warrior spec for midnight?

andd is arms as bad as they are saying?

[spice hornet]

So far it looks like playing Hunter is gonna be the go to spec

[idle falcon]

no worse

[spice hornet]

@copper fox already rerolled

Way ahead of the game

[copper fox]

Advanced citizen

[wheat jay]

youre biritsh?

[frank knoll]

No hes gay

[boreal veldt]

Warrior players remain handsome and jacked

[warm plinth]

tbc warrior is pretty fun so far

[jovial torrent]

unfortunatly @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

at least hes not british

[worldly oriole]

Holy shit its double xp weekend on cod but im kinda over it lol

what the hell the soup at this Chinese place tasted like robotussin lol

[vapid tartan]

Ww monk assa rogue or havoc dh

[lavish quest]

Just not warrior, and you should be good

[idle falcon]

real

[idle falcon]

chinese soup?

[wheat jay]

survi is fun

[mint dagger]

lol it cant be that bad

[wheat jay]

okay

lets clarify something

do you want power or fun?

[mint dagger]

both wwould be nice

[wheat jay]

okay

you aint playing warrior then

[mint dagger]

lmao

care to explain what is making ti so bad

[wheat jay]

lack of mobility

shit short cc

youre gonna be siotting in cc forever

assuming high rating

low rating youll demolish cuz noone roots warrior at low mmr

[mint dagger]

hows the damage?

[wheat jay]

fuck knows

dmg is bound to change

[serene root]

Also extreme dependency on racials to be remotely viable. If you're not a fan of gnomes, Warrior might not be the best class to choose for pvp...

[worldly oriole]

shit man I've been living a lie. thought early access the 24th

[jovial torrent]

you had me worried i was guna hit 70 then be straight into midnight grind

[solemn elm]

not a lot of damage it’s not really there

but it’s bound to change

some of the talents are in questionable places and it’s just weird design

[jovial torrent]

problem is we will run over locks and shadowpriests if the dmg is good and be kited to death by most other things

so guna be hard to actually get buffs since they mostly just aura fix stuff

[solemn elm]

so long as people don’t move their character the class is broken

all i can really say is time your mobility with theirs but warlock now has double gate

[jovial torrent]

i feel like ive been saying since 2016 that hamstring is outdated

[solemn elm]

it is pretty garbage i played like 30 minutes on ww and disable is insane

[hot solstice]

fun thing arms had that 2ble hamstring root before mop

[solemn elm]

ye improved hamstring

[jovial torrent]

they removed it in legion because ppl were spamming it to proc cs resets , since then they are scared to touch hamstring

[idle falcon]

they gave it to monk

[jovial torrent]

i dunno why its so hard to just bake in a slow refresh on one of our dmg abilities and take hamstring off gcd but make it not proc anything

[solemn elm]

piercing howl and hamstring together was ok

but ya need hamstring ogcd bad

[jovial torrent]

feels really bad when u charge someone hamstring and they instant masters call or blink so u did 0 dmg and the slow is pretty much gone

they need to buff slaughterhouse again i think aswell, if we cant get uptime

[solemn elm]

slaughterhouse being strong is problematic i think it’s ok as is just need hamstring ogcd and damage actually has to you know move health bars

nothing you can really do about it other than either just stun masters call or stun them after they blink and connect

definitely frustrating

[solemn elm]

it’s just what they gotta do to get away from you

[jovial torrent]

its what thy have to do but it really shouldnt be that way

[iron pine]

👍

[green anchor]

ownage

[green wharf]

[south kestrel]

I see arms and slayer and then proceed to be depressed

[worldly oriole]

Adding an Epic BG Is So Out Of Touch Smh

[south kestrel]

Make warriors great again

[rancid granite]

thye're gonna find a way to nerf that ebg

[green wharf]

https://i.imgflip.com/akj1h3.gif

[idle falcon]

Honestly

Sometimes i feel like bgs are more fun than arenas

[green anchor]

for me they have always been

not the 40v40 ones though

hot trash

[idle falcon]

Yeah the normal ones

20v20

40v40 is too much

Or 10v10

[worldly oriole]

legion rbgs was peak

playing vengeance fc havoc

[green wharf]

at least i got this as well

[idle falcon]

LUCKYYYYYYYYYYY

[solemn elm]

yoo nice

good one to have :)

[frank knoll]

I’m a disc priestcel now

Was in a BG
Whole team on me
Could get my HP below 70%

[violet fossil]

Na 40v40 is hella fun when it’s not lagging

but it’s super hella ultra lagfest nowadays

[jovial torrent]

the last time i remember large bg and 40v40 not lagging was literally original tbc

where ppl would actually fight on stormpike bridge or near icewin bunker

not sure how we managed that with some ppl on dialup and noone having more than 5mb/s internet

[rancid granite]

assassin warriors ftw

[jovial torrent]

the elite weapon colour should have been black and red not purple

https://tenor.com/view/homer-fist-angry-the-simpsons-gif-5303966

[violet fossil]

original wintergrasp in wrath for me

[jovial torrent]

i was trying to remember if original wintergrasp lagged

i feel like it didnt either

[violet fossil]

Not sure how it was possible either lmao

[jovial torrent]

dunno what they broke, ashran was a laggy nightmare

[violet fossil]

I remember fps was bad but it wasn’t laggy

[jovial torrent]

and its not like they can use the excuse of more ppl playing now

[violet fossil]

yeah started after wod

I mean we had dial up, maybe max 60 frames

And it didn’t lag

[jovial torrent]

i assume its some side effect of their layering and smaller servers when they started retireing server blades and replacing them

[violet fossil]

that’s what to figure

What i*

[green wharf]

its happening guys

[jovial torrent]

XD

[violet fossil]

I don’t think arms will see anything til s1 again

[jovial torrent]

the mop changes were so pathetic , literally 2 class changes and hunter getting a meta gem tweek but nothin else

[green wharf]

and you are correct

warriors are fine

[violet fossil]

it’s df s1 all over again

[jovial torrent]

im legit guna start season as holy pala and switch to whichever healer seems the most disgusting on murlok, they did almost nothing last season to uplift the lower specs

[frank knoll]

The premade communities ruined 40v40 unfortunately

[worldly oriole]

im so ready to game twin

but supatease made havoc dh b tier on his list

[boreal veldt]

We remain handsome and jacked

[frank knoll]

lol supatease bald baby headass

[exotic forge]

Fotm slave

[green wharf]

Handsome i guess, jacked not so much

[violet fossil]

yeah that too unfortunately

[green wharf]

confirmed, mythic ruined wow

[jovial torrent]

labyrinths wont be allowed as the solution ppl will cry if they can get myth track gear from it, and if it doesnt its DOA content

[boreal veldt]

don't talk about my friend like that

m+ has long been known to have ruined wow

in the constant chase of the elusive esport money

[copper fox]

Ok ok

2 hunters

5 warriors

That’s final

[jovial torrent]

honestly they need to go further and just let ppl grind myth track stuff, its not as fun being forced into crafted bits unless u do 8 +10 every week and get what u need, and then atleast 1 raid trinket is always bis anyway, would let you try max timers ect on alts too

[boreal veldt]

btw, i'm watching an outlaw rog duel atm and at least arms isn't that bad

[jovial torrent]

sublety i hear is giga broken tho so

[rancid granite]

not so much as it was earlier in beta

S tier but not broken

[boreal veldt]

outlaw?

[rancid granite]

sub =p

[boreal veldt]

oh no you mean sub, my b

yeah they're still fine

[violet fossil]

Who’s the wow lead

If it’s ion imma flip

[boreal veldt]

the new CC rules are feeling more and more like a Sub rog buff

usually i can hold my trink for the second stun>go but now i gotta worry about the 3rd

[green wharf]

what about the brew

[copper fox]

Brew comes late ssn

When conq unlocks

[green wharf]

associate game director Paul Kubit and lead encounter designer Dylan Barker

[violet fossil]

Blame ion

[jovial torrent]

he has more credits for diablo overwatch 2 and warcraft reforged

[green wharf]

🤮

[boreal veldt]

oh god not reforged

[sharp meteor]

tripling down on the "we want the classic audience" after gutting the ui and lobotomizing classes

[lavish quest]

Kennie will never forgive them

[solemn elm]

ww like 4 warriors and dev

gotta be

[copper fox]

You gotta do 2 ww or 2 dev

3 classes is crazy you’re a madman

[jovial torrent]

i still need to level a gnome war, the pre event wasnt good for leveling at all

[copper fox]

Not being gnome in midnight is going to be so

Bad

In arena

Blitz is whatever

[jovial torrent]

yeh, ive been holding on to orc but from looks of beta thats just more stress than the mog is worth

[copper fox]

Yea it’s not worth

[jovial torrent]

i wish i was brave enough to use tmorph but i just know if i install it they will break somthing and accidently ban everyone

[copper fox]

Yea I don’t use it either

[rancid granite]

or just go human/orc anyway and win anyway instead of looking like baby yoda

or a bald vulpera

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-t2-t1000-gif-20310544

[copper fox]

You don’t win if you’re not gnome

[rancid granite]

go down fighting then

[jovial torrent]

its like getting one extra turn in a pro chess match it would be insain

[copper fox]

Exactly

[rancid granite]

yeah you get one extra turn but you have to play in a furry costume

[jovial torrent]

it works for sonicfox

[green wharf]

im working to fix it

[green wharf]

is that a wow dev

[jovial torrent]

pro fighting game player, he won alot of mortal kombat and fighterz stuff

[copper fox]

No one is fixing it

[green wharf]

Rallying cry needs to remove slows and roots again

Same for avatar

[rancid granite]

OK on second thought beating your opponent while dressed in that , or as a vulpera or gnome is kinda just bm and troll to the opponent

so in that aspect it's pretty based

[jovial torrent]

are legendary daggers moggable by warrior now

[solemn elm]

just have to play gnome

[green wharf]

If they add my suggestion

that makes Avatar breaks roots/slows

and bake avatar to colosuss smash

we good

[green wharf]

if they fix slayer

[solemn elm]

tiny grand marshal

[green wharf]

its gonna be heall fun

cause sudden death proc reap the storm

im killing lots of people with it

[solemn elm]

it is a good bit of ur dmg

couple weeks ago it wasn’t in the game for some reason

[jovial torrent]

the new legion remix cap actually goes super well with it

1 min cd instant root/slow break is just insain i bet they just nerf the cd on it so its still mandatory but feels worse

[violet fossil]

that’s terrible

[copper fox]

Not my fault

[violet fossil]

it’s so shitty you have to play a race lol

To push ratings anyway

[jovial torrent]

yup

id love to play nelf or fem undead and flip about

[solemn elm]

imorph

😎

[copper fox]

It’s time to embrace the gnome

As a collective

No imorph

[jovial torrent]

a soloq gnomeoff

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[ebon steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-dwarf-beard-long-hair-gif-12448118545598578305

[urban skiff]

They have to provide a better racial first and then break it.

People don't leapfrog down to the next OP thing, if you take a toy away

[green wharf]

they did that with humans

[violet fossil]

Sadness

Everyman for himself

[green anchor]

every alliance dog was a human in wotlk

blizz made so much money from race changes alone

[frank knoll]

Tbh I just looksmaxxx on WoW now

I spend my time in game in the dressing room adjusting my characters SMV

[urban skiff]

How, you aren't even kthuman

[sand sundial]

never

[sand sundial]

true late game is just transmogging truly

[north thicket]

sad story... one is looking for a reason to dump 100e into the new exp and 2-3 months of gaming but the offer is just garbage
mb don't bother if warrior unless you are in for virtual "housing" 🤡

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/so-sad-oh-no-trump-sad-gif-20568390

[frank knoll]

My warrior is actually KT now

[wheat jay]

Good

[scarlet barn]

lol i just noticed

Truly time of our life

[spice hornet]

[lavish quest]

I give the people what they need.

[green anchor]

I'm still waiting for the $100000 man

[lavish quest]

From..?

[green anchor]

you

[lavish quest]

Well that clearly means you don't need 100k

[idle falcon]

xd

@lavish quest i need a hug

[lavish quest]

huggies

[idle falcon]

what is that gif xd

[lavish quest]

It's a skyhold one lol

[worldly oriole]

im gna crash out

[scarlet trout]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01GEGEJZ80000AGNDXBHPEGDXT/1x.webp

[lavish quest]

He's so back

[spice hornet]

Yup

[rancid granite]

can we trade khailby for afro

is that an option

[urban skiff]

No. We have afro at home

Afro at home: @worldly oriole

[rancid granite]

lmao no wonder why he left 😭

[green anchor]

guy was 0 value on the AH

[worldly oriole]

bout to uninstall jak 3.. the one mission is buggy lol@lavish quest

[frank knoll]

Afro is gone lmao

No way

2800 ret

RIP: Afro, Teknyx, Calibri, Galachad, Bev, Bruin, Kargish
We lost some greats, guys

[worldly oriole]

lol

midnight is gonna save modern gaming