pvp

[jolly rune]

changed my LIFE with this suggestion

god damn how was i playing without gigantic things flashing in my face telling me to pop a defensive because my healer is in a 12s cc train

WE'RE INCHING HIGHER BOYS

i even had my first-ever game where i had a useful intervene that saved a round

i'm starting to actually get it now

[rancid granite]

preach it

[green wharf]

fear and slow sharing nodes, no way to get out of roots

[jolly rune]

we got this, it's not nothing

but you right it makes me wanna roll a gnome

[green wharf]

nice, get this if you play colossus

[jolly rune]

colossus too mechanically advanced, i need further pruning

[green wharf]

the only good change was sweeping strikes

[jolly rune]

slayer zug zug

[thorn herald]

It's a 90sec CD in pvp xd

[jolly rune]

IS IT REALLY

[thorn herald]

Ya

[jolly rune]

how could they do us so dirty

[thorn herald]

Use the other one

[jolly rune]

that's stank nasty

[thorn herald]

They pre nerf warrior all the time man

[jolly rune]

bruh

bro why are all these pvp modifiers hidden

what's blizz's agenda here

i'm not saying we can read either way but like

damn

[vital quarry]

It's new, people used WA and/or big debuffs before.

[jolly rune]

it feels like collecting an infinity stone man, it's so strong idk how i played without it

[thorn herald]

https://drustvar.com/pvp-spells/warrior

Some of these have been around since legion

[dim thunder]

Third party websites needed to track all Blizzs bandaids.

[jolly rune]

yeah it sucks for me because i'm straight-up new to war

i see talents as cool, then find out i've been playing with dogsh*t for 100 games

[lavish quest]

They're all dogshit

:)

[vital quarry]

Better now than actual season

[exotic forge]

on a 1.5min cd

gg

[jolly rune]

alright we're too gloom in here we need some positive zug

[exotic forge]

I gotchu

[lavish quest]

Read the name bub

[exotic forge]

There's light at the end of the tunnel

[jolly rune]

respect

this is my last match, im right there with you

in my absolute pleb elo i feel like a god in cleave

[exotic forge]

My man

[jolly rune]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

this is the secret sauce

it's DISGUSTING

[exotic forge]

imo use SS before charging in

build up a little THEN CSmash

[sharp meteor]

arms hits like prot

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-basketball-ice-dunk-hornet-gif-3999940650987546913

[sharp meteor]

bleak times for warrio

[jolly rune]

you must be sayin prot strong af

[green wharf]

i dont doubt

right now the play is just doing slam

lame as f

i heard in beta heroic strike deal less damage tham slam

[jolly rune]

are you guys somehow getting giga slams or something

[green wharf]

cause the modifiers arent properly applied

auto attack dealing more damage than other abilities

[jolly rune]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-i-don't-get-it-confused-gif-12091655509524369436

[green wharf]

https://i.imgflip.com/ai04lb.gif

[exotic forge]

I'm not hitting Slam a lot funny enough

[jolly rune]

same, it's kind of a rage dump

i'm drowning in overpowers and MS

[exotic forge]

It's just, there

but I'm sure apex will up it a bit

I think the most important part of apex is that it buffs MS and Overpower

[dim thunder]

Some Arms warrior killed a Blizz employee on his mage and now we’re all suffering for it

At least that’s my head canon as to why all the root breaks got removed.

[green wharf]

oy playing wrong then

[jolly rune]

wait i've never looked at apex talents yet

this looks sick

[worldly oriole]

Damn Arms Nerfs Hit Harder Than My Grandma's EggNog

[exotic forge]

I'm too busy applying a healing debuff

no meme tho, the change to Spear is really nice

[green wharf]

too bad we arent running it

[exotic forge]

why wouldn't you

[lavish quest]

Damage

But don't ask me, I got no clue wtf is going on. I feel like the only one who figured out prepatch is for chillin tf out

[green wharf]

the talent tax dont afford it

[exotic forge]

You will at max lvl

dw

[green wharf]

i dont think you gain talents to use on the talent tree

you get for apex and the hero spec

[solemn elm]

can’t determine what we’re running when the expansion hasn’t came out yet

more than likely gotta use spear tho

[green wharf]

i can determine that we arent running, we will be walking or planted in slows and roots

[dim thunder]

New tree spec.

[jolly rune]

I'm still so mad about relentless pursuit being nerfed in pvp

it's literally the entire theme of the hero talent tree

we pursue a target RELENTLESSLY

[dim thunder]

Mild pursuit

[exotic forge]

You get 3 extra talent points

[jolly rune]

IS THIS TRUE

i was told we don't and i've been so sad

[exotic forge]

3 talents for warrior tree, 3 for hero tree and 4 for apex

[jolly rune]

https://tenor.com/view/flick-esfand-esfandtv-ricardo-milos-ricardo-flick-gif-13730968

we're so back

everyone gets a spear

[exotic forge]

You ain't taking this shit that's fo sho

[green wharf]

it doesnt do that in the wowhead talent tree though

[green wharf]

less cD on fear, more radius for berserk, more health for rallying(if the bug is fixed) and 8% of attack power seems better for you and the team

you will be a bot in the arena anyway

[vapid tartan]

Attack power is good

[exotic forge]

Putting the "mid" on Midnight

I'd rather have a "Target takes increased dmg" like it used to with Roar

[green wharf]

the pve boys didnt liked roar

they are pissed that avatar is better than bladestorm on slayer too

Warrior is confirmed the second suopport spec after evoker

[exotic forge]

Less cd on fear is okay; radius increase on 'serk and Piercing are good but situational (say, disc priest/spriest); Rally buff doesn't seem that significant, it's already like 15% in arena anyway

[green wharf]

it doesnt cause its bugged afaik

[exotic forge]

If it reduced the cd on DBTS then I'd like it more

1.45 min cd on our parry is kinda rough ngl

[grand scaffold]

are you serious

bladestorm that bad!?

[lavish quest]

I believe the Apex talent points are just spec talent points

You don't have to take the Apex talents iirc

You can move them to the spec tree

[exotic forge]

^

[lavish quest]

Not the class tree tho

[exotic forge]

But Apex is too good to pass up so you're gonna take them anyway

[lavish quest]

So no spears for everyone

[green wharf]

yeah thats what i gather

and arms will be getting only 1 apex

[lavish quest]

Every Apex is 4 point

Iirc

4 nodes

[green wharf]

yeah

and we will get only 1

[exotic forge]

What does that even mean

[green wharf]

1/4 not 4/4

[lavish quest]

Think he's saying you will only bother to get the first main point

[green wharf]

meaning th other 3 nodes arent worthy, bette rto get more talents from the spec

[lavish quest]

But Syeg is multi rival so not sure he's the source to listen to

[green wharf]

duelist*

[exotic forge]

Why would you do that

What is wrong with you

[lavish quest]

Get more stuff off the spec tree

Is an option

[green wharf]

the apex arent that strong and they desynch your cds

[exotic forge]

Why would you do that when this is a thing

[green wharf]

.

you can get more CS, but youc ant line up with avatar

or bladestorm

so so

[exotic forge]

Brother our cd's have been desync'd since DF Season 1

[lavish quest]

Who needs to line up cds?

We slam dam buttons

[exotic forge]

Just get more uptime

who cares

[lavish quest]

Whenever I try to line things up, I lose

[green wharf]

well not me cause i will be fury in s1

[lavish quest]

When I turn brain off and press off cd, I win

[green wharf]

until they fix in s2

[exotic forge]

The more you hold on to your cd's the more likely you're gonna lose

[jolly rune]

is this sarcasm or real pls advise

2150 hardstuck solo shuffle, need zug advice

[exotic forge]

unironically it's good advice

[lavish quest]

Real advise

[green wharf]

play other class

[jolly rune]

gotta change your name to Doomposter Seygfreyd

[exotic forge]

He's multi duelist, that already speaks for itself

[lavish quest]

Don't have him copy me

[jolly rune]

is duelist the last one before elite

[exotic forge]

Yes

[jolly rune]

whoa, we're the same

[green wharf]

well yours doesnt count cause is off-season

[jolly rune]

lmao

respect @ name change

[exotic forge]

Doesn't count if that's his first time getting it

the nerf to Avatar makes sense now

[lavish quest]

Don't lie with your name either

If anything my opinion are facts

[green wharf]

then why you are doomposter and im realisticposter?

[solemn elm]

battlefield commander is too good to not take the extra range and the 15 sec reduc on fear alone is a reason why

[exotic forge]

Situational imo

[jolly rune]

did bladestorm used to absolutely roast people with damage

i feel like it being weak is giving me an inauthentic warrior experience

[solemn elm]

nothing is situational where fear has a shorter cooldown and you can use it for multiple reasons

using fear good is what makes a good warrior from a bad one

and bladestorm on slayer was doing a lot of damage ya as fury last szn

only time you did anything at all

[jolly rune]

sheeeeit

[exotic forge]

Last time I remember Bladestorm doing dmg is Wrath and Cata lol

[jolly rune]

i only started war in off season so i missed out

[solemn elm]

if u played fury at all any time last szn u just line up bladestorm bolt and recklessness and it would do a lot of damage

[wraith moat]

Def not Cata, at least not single target

[solemn elm]

cause theyd line up with each other

[exotic forge]

Less than Wrath but it still did some dmg

[solemn elm]

it hasn’t done damage but ever since slayer has made it tick faster it has

[jolly rune]

i'm giga arms rn, i'm in love with sweeping strikes

arms/slayer, bs feels super weak

[solemn elm]

but you don’t have unhinged, so it’s also why it does 0 damage

if you look at unhinged in your hero talents

ms every bladestorm you don’t have that rn

[jolly rune]

shit yeah lol

[solemn elm]

ya that shit is really strong

makes your bs not a joke

[jolly rune]

i've gotten so many sneaky kills/burst panics with reap chain procs that i don't wanna give it up

i'll have to wait for midnight

[solemn elm]

you’ll be ok

they’re gonna make reap the storm happen after every execute

it’s supposed to be in the beta and in the game now but it’s not for some reason

[jolly rune]

sexiest thing i've ever heard in my life

[exotic forge]

Every Sudden Death

that'll make it more viable for sure

[solemn elm]

ya reap the storm damage last szn was doing less damage than auto attacks

[lavish quest]

Because I'm based and you're a filthy liar

[exotic forge]

tier set made it somewhat viable

but tier set is nerfed by 50% so who cares

[solemn elm]

u never ran 4 set as fury was really bad

unless u were mt for a second

[exotic forge]

2 set was goated

[solemn elm]

ya 2 set was good

[exotic forge]

guaranteed Sudden Death procs, more Bladestormin'

[solemn elm]

ya slayer s3 fury was the most fluid shit i’ve ever played just wish it stayed like that now

most fair and fluid version

[lavish quest]

Me after the warrior changes

pepesad1

[thorn herald]

Reap hits harder than ms

So it's ok

[worldly oriole]

Holy Shit

[jolly rune]

If I wanted to make an alt for arenas what's better, a dwarf or a dark iron dwarf?

or are both shit?

i wanna blow this boost on a toon for trying weird shit

[thorn herald]

If you're asking what race to play then it's gnome

[jolly rune]

yeah but like

i have some dignity

[thorn herald]

But you don't rlly need racials man

Just play what u think looks cool

[jolly rune]

but that's what im sayin

both dwarves look dope

im cool with either, which is better

[thorn herald]

Unless you like fire all the time do reg dwarf

Reg dwarf can do more mogs

[grand scaffold]

dark iron dwarf

the racial is very strong

[jolly rune]

they share a 30s cd with freedom trinket right?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[jolly rune]

i did a big think and defensives feel harder to come by than damage increases

since i already do shitloads of damage as arms

so maybe that 10% dr + dot immunity is better

[grand scaffold]

bro said he does dmg as arms

😂

[lavish quest]

Tell us your secret

Does your dad work at blizzard?

[jolly rune]

just play in 2150 offseason everyone is as boosted as i am

they stand in cleave

if you can survive a 2/6 or 3/6 shitlobby with all casters you'll go 4/6 or 5/6 in melee just because of the eyewatering spread dam

[grand scaffold]

idk

what % dmg boost is the dark iron dwarf racial

i know it scales off of dots but by how much

[green wharf]

Skunk drunk on the pre-patch power

didnt suffer half of what we did in the hunter and destro apocalypse

[lavish quest]

Why does syeg have a fetish?

[green wharf]

who doesnt have a few

[grand scaffold]

0_0

wdym a few

how many is that

[green wharf]

more than 2

[grand scaffold]

😂

[exotic forge]

Perfect time to use this image

[solemn elm]

dark iron is good to get rid of death mark on yourself

it is a psuedo get rid of all slows but you put ur trinket on cd

so it’s sketchy

[rancid granite]

idk why everyone sleeps on humans racial

BIS

[plucky ginkgo]

i dont like how they look

i want to play as goblin body kul tiran

[rancid granite]

quicker cd's on trinket, 2ndary stats, bonus hearthstone icing on the cake

[wheat jay]

The more the merrier

[modest shadow]

Also female human = bis to look at in game

[lavish quest]

But why is it pregnant men?

[rancid granite]

ikr

wish males could have different body types so i can be less wide

like the human femae

[thorn herald]

Which is what

[dusky parrot]

getting hot n heavy over pixels

[wheat jay]

Fembelf

Fem nelf

And, fem voidelf

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[wheat jay]

What

I like them fit

[thorn herald]

Syeg likes being a shirtless male orc

[dusky parrot]

did the pfp not give it away?

[green wharf]

it should be obvious by now

https://tenor.com/view/warcraft-we-will-never-be-slaves-hell-scream-wow-slave-gif-5506190

[dusky parrot]

BUT WE WILL BE CONQUERORS.

[green wharf]

peak

[wheat jay]

But he's a pandaren irl

Hopefully with a shirt on

[dusky parrot]

only good cinematic as of late

[jolly rune]

does shout remove all incapacitates compared to berserker rage or am i reading this incorrectly?

[novel crater]

Tooltip is different but the practical effect is the same

You cant get out of scatter etc no matter what anymore

[solemn elm]

^

[copper fox]

Abandon warrior

[solemn elm]

basically

play like ww or devourer or sum shit

anything but warrior

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-funny-walk-walking-cute-gif-16778309

me irl

[jolly rune]

ty

[lavish quest]

[sand sundial]

Never

It's likely they'll tune once again

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[dusky parrot]

wonderful ashran moment

[sand sundial]

Does he know what lmao

Not saying it'll get better am I just that they'll change things

[copper fox]

Yea I’m not srs when I say this anyway

[dusky parrot]

do you guys ever use macros to change the icons of abilities just to have them look cool

[green wharf]

all my arms abilities are like that

[exotic forge]

I used to do this with Slam, it had the Heroic Strike icon

Now I feel like a prophet

[dusky parrot]

This is mine for prot

[green wharf]

imma do for prot later

might as well play prot since arms damage gonna be the same

[dusky parrot]

prot is just cool imo

[wheat jay]

Animals do

[green wharf]

Im a Manimal

[solemn elm]

i make stormbolt into a water melon sometimes

[tired osprey]

Would yall say Fury War or Havoc is better for survivability in random pug bgs?

[dusky parrot]

havoc is for babies so havoc

fury is for babies but they know it, and still fail

[tired osprey]

Ohhhh

[jolly rune]

How do you survive unholy dk burst in arenas without defensive cds up?

I just sent another 0/6 shuffle set and i swear i tried everything

Spacing it out, stunning, disarming, leaping away

Guy's doin double my damage

[jolly rune]

don't play war for survivaibility in bgs/epics, also don't play war to duel

[novel crater]

Arms or fury?

[jolly rune]

Arms, slayer

[novel crater]

Save parry for it, impend and pre DStance

Outside of that, unless u can just line the dmg (which is not realistic 99% of the time)

Pray to whatever divine entity you believe in

And use lube so it doesn’t hurt as much

As MT Fury u just heal though it on DStance mostly and its fine, I haven’t tried a lot of Arms on beta yet but I’ll give more info once I get around to it

[jolly rune]

Super appreciated

I find the second one comes off cd before my parry is back up and that's when I get absolutely melted

[tired osprey]

@jolly rune what would you suggest?

[novel crater]

Yeah, we are squishy rn. If you disarm it it helps too. But outside of all that and trying out new changes we mostly playing tank hero specs (MT, Colo) since u r not as squishy

[jolly rune]

I'll just have to play puckered for now and squeeze any defensive talents i can find

ty

[jolly rune]

If you wanna play a survivable melee in bgs/epics my top pick is death knight / ret paladin atm

death knight as a soft target caller yoinking people into your backline and blowing them up

ret becasue they're rats and they can bubble when someone looks at them wrong

honestly war feels amazing in bgs when you have attentive healers and the worst with no healing

[novel crater]

Havoc no question

[deft wharf]

Havoc can also just flatout leave when targeted

Wish I could fly into the air and throw fireballs for like 20% hp each

[tired osprey]

@jolly rune ty

@novel crater ty

[dim thunder]

Warrior is extremely dependent on good healers and you need to protect them too.

[deft wharf]

Miss mop arms so much

Healers needed not apply then

[boreal veldt]

Just spam whirlwind slams bois

[urban skiff]

Wait is that brawl: packed house??

[boreal veldt]

yeh

[urban skiff]

Is the UI still horribly bugged where you see enemy players in your party frames?

[boreal veldt]

ayuuppp

[urban skiff]

eww

For anyone wondering, just tested on beta and we can still get sound alerts for when we gain or lose buffs

bloodstone stonks up

[lucid walrus]

bring back mortal combo

[green wharf]

slam normally 9k damage, slam crit 44k

[dusky parrot]

Holy you know ball

Mortal combo was neat as hell

[urban skiff]

Backstab deals 875, generates 1 combo point, +20% dmg when from behind.

Shadowstrike deals 15k, generates 2 combo points.

[worldly oriole]

Holy Shit Call Of Duty Season 2 Today

Mr Executive Is The Biggest Boss @dusky parrot

[dusky parrot]

Uhh yes?

wait who

[worldly oriole]

lol

[elfin surge]

TBC hype

[rancid granite]

the butt crusaders

i miss afro

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-eating-chewing-eat-gif-2565612243840698494

[warm plinth]

Tbc hype (I am lvl 34)

[lavish quest]

Tbc hype (I am lvl 80)

[worldly oriole]

im level 2

negative hype

leveled mop to 90 and like every class x2 to max in retail

and gotta level multiples in midnight

[wheat jay]

Tony

Reject multiclassing

Embrace mastering one class one spec

Be the king of your class

[rancid granite]

you need 1 pocket pick

[lavish quest]

Coming from Artji, pretty rich

[wheat jay]

I generally select one spec for a season

And if I dont like it I go back to my pocket pick survival hunter

[lavish quest]

Pocket pick ain't even warrior

smh

[warm plinth]

year of the spear

[wheat jay]

In pve it is

In pvp never lmao

[lavish quest]

PepeHands

If they keep nerfing war 6 ft under we may become a blood main in pve UHDK main in pvp

https://youtu.be/gKw5lbapjvI

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

TBC HYPE

[lavish quest]

You notice the armor the alliance guys are wearing is from retail, not tbc?

[slow brook]

gearing a surv hunter rn, the burst is insane

[green anchor]

TBC trailer using retail models but not TBC itself

[sharp meteor]

prob couldnt get their guy to setup the old models

also people havent really disliked the "remasters"

[lavish quest]

Tbf, I would expect them to use the higher rez models

But maybe put em in armor fit for vanilla/tbc lol

Hell they had the T2 remasters if they were worried about pixels

[exotic forge]

TBC is just Deep Thunder proc simulator

[elfin surge]

This is how war should be on retail

[sharp meteor]

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

[elfin surge]

idk why details always thinks im prot

i only have 3 points into prot

[lavish quest]

Are you sitting D stance?

[elfin surge]

no lol

not often

I will be main tanking for my guild though

but thats just so I can justify looting everything to myself

[thorn herald]

We'll see how the rest of the tuning goes. Should be time for the rampant aura buffs

[elfin surge]

retail war needs more than just damage tuning

[lavish quest]

We should shut down the war cord till they fix woyer

[urban skiff]

"Yes I need this mythic high vers + haste item totally for pve reasons!"

[jolly rune]

distinguished colleagues teach me the mentality of stance dancing

i just had a guy tell me i should sit in d stance outside of cooldowns

is this cooked or is this real

it's off gcd and i can use it whenever, so i kinda just trust my gut and swap with the flow

[sand sundial]

All this tbc hype only for people to raidlog it in a few weeks

[lavish quest]

TBC doesn't have mythic 🙃

[sharp meteor]

depends on pressure

are you trading favorably or not

are you in immediate danger or not

[sand sundial]

Classic always did that for some reason

[lavish quest]

Sit D stance outside of CDs if you're being targeted or taking a lot of cleave/spread dmg

If no one is touching you, you're free to go B stance, but try to predict stuns and swap back to D before them

[sand sundial]

Stance dancing in classic was kinda fun tbh you actually had to manage rage

[elfin surge]

never go D just type "heals?" if you die

[dusky parrot]

If paladins can do it. Why can’t we

[dusky parrot]

If you ever go “I’m dead” a healer will literally pull out everything they have to save you all out of spite

Never fails

[dusky parrot]

Health low/enemy burst = dstance
Literally any else = bstance

If you’re asking for classic stuff, idk I’m not a boomer

[exotic forge]

Swapping to DStance while disarmed is also an option

if you can't do anything you might as well take less damage during that

[worldly oriole]

im promoting you to head theorycrafter for that @exotic forge

[jolly rune]

i dig it

[exotic forge]

I thought this was common knowledge?

[jolly rune]

wasn't to me ima be real

this is some good zuggin

ty

[dusky parrot]

if youre fighting rogue and you time it right, you can quick swap to dstance right before their opening stun

[exotic forge]

If it's arena, possible. In a 1v1, you should always sit DStance at the beginning of the fight; if they trinket fear, you win.

[dusky parrot]

thats rare to pull off, but great to keep in the back of ur head

[urban skiff]

You can shockwave and vrush while disarmed

You want that extra damage

[limber relic]

R1 titles delayed cuz wintrading reports? Thats a first

[sharp meteor]

potentially

watch them come out and nobody dq

[jovial torrent]

lvl 23 in tbc, i hope gearing at 70 isnt expensive honorwise since its so accelerated

[limber relic]

On eu arms

Theres 1/2 really obvious wintraders

On fury not so much

[worldly oriole]

is the leveling fast? @jovial torrent

[jovial torrent]

ive heard the exp is reduced more and more from 20-30 then from 30-60 its like 30% faster or somthing, im using zygor guide so its pretty afk just running from point to point letting it auto hand in and accept

taken me about 15 hours 1-23

[dusky parrot]

what is even the philosophy of wintrading

like just play the fuckin game

its not that hard

[limber relic]

So for fury its prob 0dq 🥲

[jovial torrent]

im not sure if this is how it works so correct me ifim wrong, but why are wow2 accounts allowed to get glad mounts and get banned but keep mounts

[limber relic]

If they cant get it legit but they have the capital 🥲

[dusky parrot]

speak up if im wrong

but if ima be real, you can have the shittest skill ever, but if youre consistently queuing- youre bound to get into god groups and eventually climb with a thumb up ur ass

[sharp meteor]

Secure the reward.

[sharp meteor]

Not really.

You can highroll good lobbies but you don't just go up.

[dusky parrot]

idk then maybe it worked for me, id say when id climb from at least 0-2400. Yeah i had some skill and def couldve done better but there were mechs I couldve learned but didnt want to learn out of sheer laziness

probably a shit example though

[boreal veldt]

I am the prophet of crit

haste be damned

[dusky parrot]

ive honestly been tempted to go full crit for a ssn

just to see how it works, ive always either done full mast or haste

[jovial torrent]

you can luck your way into like +200 but u cant luck your way out of keyboard turning and clicking to 2400

[boreal veldt]

with how hard blizz is pushing crit damage and crit activators on colossus, i feel like it's going to be a serious choice and not just for the memes

i was only able to justify it last 2 seasons cause we had warlord's torment

[sharp meteor]

You can def click and keyboard turn if it's just 2400

[jovial torrent]

maybe in rbg

[dusky parrot]

i did it

[sharp meteor]

I think people have a warped perception

[dusky parrot]

I still click burst buttons, I got macros but not for everything

[sharp meteor]

of just how horrible 2400 shuff is

[dusky parrot]

and I proudly still use wasd

[dusky parrot]

yeah I remember seeing bahjeera mention about how many factors crit can go into. So it'll def be worth checking out

[jovial torrent]

i hope midnight doesnt have pvp crates

[dusky parrot]

like the crates from winning a pvp instance? or warmode crates

or the end season crates

[jovial torrent]

warmode flying around, would be better for pvp if ppl actually had to q for conquest

[sharp meteor]

It does.

Coinflip on if they add a daily cd to it.

[jovial torrent]

damn shame

[dusky parrot]

I mean, warmode crates give 50 conq at most thats not a lot

[jovial torrent]

its still the best way to get conq by far, especially mid season

well outside of 2's if u know someone

[dusky parrot]

what?

Ive never heard that take, that seems like so much extra effort then just queuing

[jovial torrent]

u semi afk flying around watching movies, u can get like 300 conquest a hour and it randomly gives patterns and vicious bloodstones, and honor

[dusky parrot]

I mean I guess you could

but at the same time, you do rated pvp for- well the rating

not just the conq

[jovial torrent]

alot more ppl do it than u think, theres often 2 whole raids worth of ppl doing it every day

and when u get to 2200 and suddenly have 15-30 min q

guna skip that problem this time tho and just play every alt i want gear for to 1800 in honor gear at start of season

[rancid granite]

everything is just so much easier when you gear the alts week by week

pvp weekly quest and like 2-3 shuffles and you're fine

[exotic forge]

Joining a raid team so they can do the gearing for you is boring

Get it yourself by queing

[green wharf]

secret op fury build(do not steal)

[urban skiff]

You also often end up with massive open world skirmishes with other teams doing the same thing and it's genuinely some of the best open world content in a long time when that happens.

[dusky parrot]

notice he ended with "when that happens"

[urban skiff]

It happens a lot when people are still gearing, it happens not a lot when the season is over

If it happened all the time it wouldn't be exciting

Same way getting invaded in Dark Souls is only exciting when it happens once in a while.

[solemn elm]

far from a secret if we have kill or be killed

[exotic forge]

50/50 because sometimes it turns into a lag fest lol

[stiff sky]

which hero talent is preferred now for prepatch? murlockio says almost 50/50

[solemn elm]

pvp warcrates are for people who are genuinely afraid to pvp, just get honor gear q up get heraldry’s fly around and do wq for bloody token gear if its not conquest uncapped and just play

those ain’t ever going away since they added them in wack ass bfa

[ashen crypt]

question: my conquest gear became regular tier pieces even when i didnt use the catalyst, i just noticed and lost like 8% vers, did anyone have the same issue?

[sharp meteor]

Ye, tier has fixed stats.

[green wharf]

tier now only give a flat increase in damage

[ashen crypt]

oh what i meant to say, the conquest tier items i had used to have vers before prepatch, now they have the same stats as regular tier so i was wondering if it was intended or a bug

haven't done pvp since prepatch and today when i swapped gear i noticed that my vers was way lower, even with the stat squish

[green wharf]

this shouldnt be right

tier sets dont have verst

i think only shoulders have a small amount with haste

[urban skiff]

conq pieces cannot have no vers, send screenshots of items

[sand sundial]

as regular tier

did u catalyze them perchance

[pine path]

Hey everybody,

Is there like a wowhead/icy veins type of guide I an check for pvp builds?

Wanna do arms pvp, never touched arms in my life so dont wanna read all the abilities and talents before being able to play

[green wharf]

murlok.io

[ashen crypt]

nope, did not catalyze them but now they are catalyzed wich is weird, i already sent a ticket to see if it may be a bug or something

[solemn elm]

there is no real builds yet since it’s prepatch nothing really matters until the actual expansion is out but you can use murlokio to see what people use for gear etc

[spice hornet]

Must be down bad if copying builds from Syeg

[pine path]

Thank you!

[pine path]

Yeah just need a simpler starter ^^ thanks

[green wharf]

its actually meta

[wheat jay]

Meta es huevos en tu boca

[green wharf]

excuse me, you dont play wow

[jovial torrent]

draenor all over again

[wheat jay]

But im still a player unlike you habibi

[sand sundial]

I'm just gonna log on in a week to chill cba

Just solo questing chilling

Didn't know that a boost is 80 euros LOL fuck that

[jovial torrent]

still low level so im chilling, world server did go down once for a min

[dusk meteor]

is prot ok for pvp these days?

[rancid granite]

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

What kind of pvp

[dusk meteor]

all of it i suppose?

[sharp meteor]

I think its bad in 2s and relies on specific teammates in 3s but otherwise fineish

Better than either other in casual unless you have healer

Comparable in blitz

Marginally worse in shuff although kind of irrelevant

[dusk meteor]

oh i see. mind if i ask what build do you play in those ?

[copper fox]

Why is your name shapis? That’s my ex boomer warlock arena partners name

[dusk meteor]

dat me.

at least im a boomer ex warlock player, havent played in a decade tho. 😄

[sharp meteor]

CkEAmaXYRr39NNAQKu+E/lY36FAAwYmhZmZmxsZmZZGjxMNzMzYjZMDYmZAAAAgZGgZ2GgBLbzYWsNaGYGWmtGzshZGzgxyAgZGAAGA

prob this for blitz

[dusk meteor]

ty kennie

gonna give it a try in a bit 😄

[copper fox]

Did you play rls with me in wod

[sharp meteor]

then go power through adversity, demo, last one flex but dragon charge if fcing

[copper fox]

Actually here

Are you Brazilian

[dusk meteor]

oof. i dont remember your name. but i q'd a lot of rogue/lock throughout wod and pretty much every expansion prior to shadowlands.

i am indeed.

[dusk meteor]

okies. 😄

[copper fox]

We played rls in wod lol this wasn’t my name imma dm you in a min

[dusk meteor]

awesome. 😄

oh, what pvp talents btw @sharp meteor i dont think that string changes them.

[green wharf]

show pic ingame right now

[sharp meteor]

bap

[dusk meteor]

oh derp

ty

[sharp meteor]

oh the point in nails is useless put that literally anywhere else

prob disrupting

i tweak stuff every game for testing or into niche thing so sometimes build is a lil off as its for niche matchup

[dusk meteor]

is sudden death bad?

[sharp meteor]

nah its fine whenever u get thorims at max level it should be solid again

probably idk if execute nerfs apply

this is just livelord build

[dusk meteor]

ah i see.

[sharp meteor]

can try to make a shuffle/dmg build in a sec, in a game

[boreal veldt]

rate this cooked space jam build

cmon and slam if you will

[sharp meteor]

missin talents and tuning isnt in so its kind of like just gettin comfy with buttons rn

in general if you spin node or fc take tank talents if you shuff arena or team fight take dmg ones

[lavish quest]

"Would you slam this build?"

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

take spear for the shout and gg

%8 attack power over 5%, HUGE win

also, is the bleed heal any good? seems so ass

[solemn elm]

needs battlefield commander

battlefield commander too good to not have

put the warrior buffs in the bag

right meow

[green wharf]

i think its time to raise the flag again

#REWORK WARRIOR

[dusky parrot]

rework so bad they want another rework

[green wharf]

reading the paladin forum

they think ret is in a worst state than warriors

[dusky parrot]

paladins are gonna paladin

[plucky ginkgo]

coward spec

[dusky parrot]

little bitch spec for hellen keller players

[rancid granite]

afro would still be here if he was never a pally main

[green anchor]

it actually says furry

oof

[solemn elm]

just a fact

[solemn elm]

needs carpel tunnel added into that aswell

[green anchor]

carpet funnel

[boreal veldt]

@sharp meteor

[boreal veldt]

i'm ok with it, it's not great but it's no longer nerfed in pvp so you get all 85%, i like it more than using a global for ip which feels ass as well

it's all ass

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-im-in-hell-i-am-in-hell-obito-naruto-gif-19780019

im doing the world quests with my alts

all of them are full honor

the worst ones are the arms alts

negative damage

[boreal veldt]

arms damage profile so bad it might be on skillcapped healer tier list

[green wharf]

honestly, these m+ bros deserve it

[solemn elm]

wow syegfryed posting peak

never thought i’d see the day

[boreal veldt]

someone mentioned mortal combo and it should genuinely be in the colossus hero tree

instead of the ms crit = 2 stacks

[green wharf]

i hate i hate the change in deep wounds

jesus Christ

[boreal veldt]

bro it's so trash

[green wharf]

you cant bladestorm and dot everyone

just ???

[boreal veldt]

just crit cleave bro

[green wharf]

they made deep wounds trauma

[boreal veldt]

just pick cleave bro

[green wharf]

its actually worse than trauma

[boreal veldt]

lmfaooo

[green wharf]

but when is suggest that Ms apply rend if you get bloodletting regardless of HP

instead of 35%

im stupid and i want destroy the pve balance

now we have rend and tclap, both aoe

doing literally the same shit

LESS BLOAT AM I RIGHT

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-joker-kill-you-what-would-i-do-without-you-joker-batman-joker-jonkler-gif-15492896523312900172

[boreal veldt]

we're a mess

[green wharf]

I think i will just main BM, 3 buttons, fuck it

[boreal veldt]

have you tried the survival takedown + boomshot combo?

i'ts pretty 1 shotty

[green wharf]

survival is dead to me

i hate more dumbstick than anything related to warrior

i cant wrap my head around the fact that the melee hunter biggest damage is pulling up a shotgun from their ass

Like bro, why you theme your spec based on rexxar, let them dual wield

make both of your hero specs be based around elves and rexxar again

to remove fury of the eaggle and add a shotgun

[faint hemlock]

damn a weeb called me out for being a gnome thats crazy

[green wharf]

gnomes are the worst thing yes

but i just used whatever gif i found

[faint hemlock]

damn a closet weeb called me out for being a gnome thats crazy

[solemn elm]

fr

he’s closeted asf he watches one anime that he really likes he’ll switch up instantly

[green wharf]

wat

[ashen crypt]

jokes and memes aside, is arms that bad right now?

[thorn herald]

It's not great rn

[ashen crypt]

just when i wanted to go bonk

[green wharf]

if you mean the worst spec for pvp atm

them yes

[solemn elm]

just not very good and it’s prepatch so it’s even worse

[green wharf]

its ok to say is awfull

[exotic forge]

Bet he likes One Piece

https://tenor.com/view/mid-meme-aew-mjf-mjf-meme-mid-gif-11983703810991326806

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fan-detected-opinion-rejected-gif-25772991

[exotic forge]

Funny how a Fury Warr, Surv and Rdruid can't kill in a 3v2

[boreal veldt]

remember though

no matter how bad warrior is

warrior players remain handsome and jacked

[green wharf]

the void

[urban skiff]

https://www.lego.com/da-dk/product/ocarina-of-time-the-final-battle-77093

HOW IS THIS THE FIRST I HEAR OF THIS

[urban skiff]

@green wharf same story every time with mail: I'm almost happy but never really happy

[green wharf]

boots is always the problem for me

[urban skiff]

same

often the pants aren't great either

[lavish quest]

Kitty

[wheat jay]

by seifcham

[idle falcon]

@urban skiff PvP? 👀

been a while

[urban skiff]

My niece is visiting and kids are at home for a snow day

[idle falcon]

aw

[urban skiff]

but when no distractions, I've got a healer I want to try playing a bit more

[idle falcon]

huge

[limber relic]

ofc

[worldly oriole]

Those Arms Nerfs Hit Harder Than Grannies Cookies

On The Beta Lol

[limber relic]

Slayer’s Strike damage reduced by 10%.
Reap the Storm damage reduced by 20%.
Dreadnaught damage reduced by 20%.
Mortal Strike damage reduced by 20%.
Execute damage reduced by 20%.
Deep Wounds damage reduced by 30%.
Arterial Bleed damage bonus reduced to 3% per stack (was 5%).
Practices Strikes damage bonus increased to 20% (was 15%).

[green anchor]

another small L for the warrior discord but another massive W for the paladin discord

ret no longer worse than warrior 🥳

[lavish quest]

So we going ret now?

[green anchor]

yeah

FOLLOW AFRO

[onyx marlin]

never

[obsidian oar]

What doesn't suck in midnight/prepatch? everything is dooming I try looking into.

[dusky parrot]

Now don’t forget the auto attack dmg reduced

[sharp meteor]

every spec sucks and our uis are also worse ty ion

u saved the game

[dusky parrot]

Surv Hunter, ret, dh

The specs made for the blind

[rancid granite]

well stop looking into it and just play what you find fun

👌

[sharp meteor]

everythin less fun now

[dusky parrot]

Don’t play Druid though. It was in the files

[rancid granite]

then touch grass

[sharp meteor]

foot of ice outside

gg

[obsidian oar]

I don't mind dying constantly, just don't want to ruin other peoples games if I solo as a warrior

[dusky parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/maravillosa-jugada-gif-772849805963351590

[dusky parrot]

Want a tip?

Go death wish fury, sit in dstance and beg for heals before a match starts

It’s the only part of Warrior that isn’t completely screwed over

[rancid granite]

-play warrior
-win anyway

[sharp meteor]

stepped into back yard yesterday

slid 30 feet or so

[dusky parrot]

Wait kennie

Are you a vulpera prot warr?

[sharp meteor]

Yuh.

[dusky parrot]

I KNEW I recognized you

[sharp meteor]

The one and only.

[dusky parrot]

The only vulpera I’ll respect in this game

Solely because it takes a lot of stones to play PvP as prot

[sharp meteor]

There sure can be a lot of whispers and fan mail some days.

But it's not that bad, I think. Maybe I'm just used to it.

[dusky parrot]

nah dw ive been there, its definitely not for the faint of heart

I'll either get "youre bad because youre prot and depend on a tank spec" or "youre bad because youre throwing with playing prot"

[frank knoll]

Gay

[sharp meteor]

The only somewhat valid thing is making everybody on my team suffer into bob or glogan otherwise its chillins

Honorable mention to rohbel

Otherwise weird that anybody would care

[dusky parrot]

they just be mad that they arent strong enough to carry the sword and board imo

[sharp meteor]

Zoning into a 3700 lobby and knowing it'll be the only one because the healers log lower chars

[boreal veldt]

lmfao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[boreal veldt]

but you know what wasn't touched?

Slam

[limber relic]

blizz logic

[boreal veldt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spacejam-michael-jordan-3oriNUHm08iuTga3zG

[limber relic]

Blizzard also
"The cooldown of Restoral by is reduced"

[boreal veldt]

what're we doin here, lmao

[rancid granite]

need more healing

[limber relic]

i liked this one too

[sharp meteor]

unironic best place to play warr is gonna be tank in blitz gg

[limber relic]

mind u thats beta btw

[sharp meteor]

yuh

lmfao

[rancid granite]

getting healers / 3v3 in skirmish right now no one dies

[dusky parrot]

Seen enough, nerf warrior

[limber relic]

cant have enough of them

[limber relic]

saw a YT video of a prot that literally cannot die. he can afk and stil not die

[dusky parrot]

Im sorry but, 10%? Do we want to make the game unplayable? Paladin already has 3 immunities! We can't stress to add another one. Just nerf warrior

[limber relic]

but hey, gotta nerf arms right

[dusky parrot]

thats why second wind got nerfed

[limber relic]

thats why mortal strike got nerfed

[dusky parrot]

could've just nerfed it for prot because it was the only spec that could do that- but NO do it for every spec

[limber relic]

too ez

[sharp meteor]

so the thing was

that wasnt actually the case

the heal wasnt much at all

[sharp meteor]

not rly

it got doubled going into the patch

then halved right after

so basically its unchanged

[limber relic]

wasnt it the 40% dmg reduction talent

[dusky parrot]

yeah and that nerf happened mysteriously right after rextroy's video game out

[sharp meteor]

no it was him finding npcs htat do 0 dps

if i afk'd vs a comp stomp bot id die

and rextroy managed to find players somehow even worse

than literal bots

[limber relic]

KEK

[sharp meteor]

[limber relic]

scripted

[sharp meteor]

deadass uninstall if u cant burst a warrior through second wind as a sub rogue

spec does 200% of my hp in 3 cheap shots

and u tellin me one cant burst through a 2% heal per sec

actual retire to pve angle for that guy

like go put your kids to bed bro

[dusky parrot]

2% heal was super fucking strong

esp with the def stance talent

[sharp meteor]

no it wasnt

[dusky parrot]

I was dueling glads with it, couldn't break through and easily bounce back

[sharp meteor]

ya so was rextroy

[dusky parrot]

and they couldnt break through it

aka it was strong

[sharp meteor]

and comp stomp bots could

aka it wasnt

deadass uninstall angle for those people im sry

they are genuinely terrible

LMFAO

[dusky parrot]

we had mop second wind for 2 weeks and blizzard castrated us

[sharp meteor]

mop was 3

war within was 1

prepatch was 2

now we back to 1

again tho im deadass if u couldnt kill somebody through second wind unless ur a warr u need to like bind your abilities

actually embarrassing and id never tell anybody that

[hot solstice]

ye 3% with wall and parry and raly was an actual cd

[limber relic]

rally best defensive cd history.
3min cd 10% health. no root break no nothing

[sharp meteor]

i like how the tooltip says 20% in pvp but its still only 10%

ever since they changed it in prized

[hot solstice]

tbh it doesnt even matter that much cause for now we need chance to kill ppl considering we arent main target in most of scenarios

my favorite is when healer in shuffle yells that u didnt press rally without realising it wont change a thing

[limber relic]

we're not the target, we're just nobody

[dusky parrot]

at this point

im going to classic until midnight comes out

im not playing a wet noodle

[hot solstice]

legit every single prepatch looking the same

[rancid granite]

just think of it as training like goku with weighted clothing on

so when we inevitably get buffed you'll be that much better

https://tenor.com/view/goku-training-goku-dragon-ball-z-buu-saga-gif-18422142648089244070

[dusky parrot]

as much as I am inclined to agree with such a badass analogy

whats there to train for warrior other than counting to 3 for martial prowess for ms LOL

[rancid granite]

lol idk

not mashing buttons you dont mean to press like i do

[fickle forge]

I come in here to an ocean of tears as per usual

[lavish quest]

Let us know when there's good cause for anything else

[jolly rune]

How does predator's wake work? I learned arena 123 on stormbolt just to counter this pos ability

[modest shadow]

I don’t think anyone’s happy with the state of their class going into midnight. Gonna be fun watching the dooming tuning streams.

[jolly rune]

Does stunning it neuter the damage or does it keep going

[modest shadow]

I’m still shocked they’re making a new spec. When so much needs to be done to current spec trees.

[fickle forge]

It's the same story every prepatch

[lavish quest]

And it's the same story every expansion. Woyer bad

[rancid granite]

some people just can't handle it

see: afro

[modest shadow]

I miss Afro

[grand scaffold]

yo guys do you we have to wait for the new expansion to properly start before i can try the new race

[wheat jay]

fitting name

[dusky parrot]

yeah

WELL WELL WELL.

PALADINS ARE NOT ESCAPING THIS ONE

[rancid granite]

lmaoooo

damn did they update revenge animation it looks cool

[dusky parrot]

its the same but, they added like a wave shooting forward

does look cool though

[rancid granite]

yeah i wasn't sure if that's a talent or not but i love it

[dusky parrot]

I was thinking that too, like maybe it was best served cold but it could just be updated

[rancid granite]

im just a big fan of warrior getting any type of animation

needs some flash

[lavish quest]

It's a prot pally 😮

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779196945448304640/1364708570355990538/togif.gif

[limber relic]

xd

[jolly rune]

is there a way to make an intervene macro say "Intervene on [playername]"?

trying to communicate it better in solos because people have never not ran from my intervenes

[dusky parrot]

idk, I dont use intervene. If you aren't a warrior you can save yourself

id change the /say intervene to /say inter- HAH just kidding fix your own shit

[rancid granite]

offensive intervene is nice

[dusky parrot]

fr, warrior is gonna have enough trouble dealing with constant one shots. you think i got hp to spare?

[rancid granite]

wont need a macro for that tho

interpose has entered the chat

[limber relic]

i use dynamic macros

[jolly rune]

fr i spent the last few solo lobbies getting my ass pounded by ddh and unholy dks

which make up 50% of the ladder at 2150

but i had a match this week where i saved a round with an intervene

and i'm fucking LIT

because that never happened in my entire life before

i wanna do it again lmao

[green wharf]

i wish you had played with the hunter apocalypse last season

[jolly rune]

was it bad

[spice hornet]

Yes

Hunter was playing a different game

[green wharf]

think about dying in a single volley cast

100% to 0%

[solemn elm]

yes

very bad

all 3 hunter specs literally god

[green wharf]

Survival and BM werent that bad

i could still kill then

[jolly rune]

savage

hunters clearly get bitches, look at brann showing off his gun

[solemn elm]

mm was very much killable aswell you essentially needed to leap ontop of them the first 30 seconds of the game if you’re using charge and shit you’re trolling

was just dealing with 1 shots from all 3 the entire season

started with black arrow 1 shotting randomly, then they moved over to sentinel, meanwhile survival was 1 shotting with a flanking strike bug hitting for like straight up gazillion

and bm hunter had the fenryr pet just deleting people for no reason and it was a fantastic bug

really cool

they fix both of them then the ladder becomes mm hunter unholy dk only

and the end you already know with volley and getting purely outskilled by your opponent

[jolly rune]

if it's any consolation i haven't seen a single mm hunter in pre-patch

[rancid granite]

the black arrows doing more dmg than a full on stacked demolish crit really hurt my feelings

like it was personal

[solemn elm]

sure it’s cool if it’s like one spec that’s funny but the entire astral season hunters were the most broken garbage slop the entire time

all 3 hunter specs

not just mm

mm was definitely the most prevalent but the other 2 were just as obnoxious honestly

[rancid granite]

i wonder how they're gonna be now though i logged my mm and half their cc is gone

[solemn elm]

it’s cool if it’s like one spec at first i hated ret pally and i was like man fuck them then it was like it’s just one spec

compared to all 3 specs

of hunter

if u were a hunter that szn ur class mount was the astral gladiators fel bat for sure

logging into a hunter meant you would succeed no matter how lost you were

[limber relic]

🥲

ppl be funny

[solemn elm]

holy idiot

he counted wins by hand

[obsidian oar]

when he ran out of fingers, he took off his socks, when he ran out of toes, he blew up latex gloves and tied them off.

[jolly rune]

undead are also missing fingers

Can any gigachads peep this and tell me if i'm missing any obvious quality of life macros

Or if my setup is in some way gigadumb

i'm trying to clean my zug

[rancid granite]

get a better mog before you bother with ui

[jolly rune]

i'l mog better when i don't play like a gorilla

for now it gives me energy

[rancid granite]

lol

[dusky parrot]

cant forget the vulpera racial with hunter dealing 30 mill dmg in shadowlands

[dusky parrot]

what is c1, c2 or a1, a2

like what do those keybinds mean

[solemn elm]

looks good @jolly rune

ctrl 123 and alt 123

[dusky parrot]

ohhh that makes so much since

[solemn elm]

ngl im a noob and i dont even use fear 123 i just target the healer then press it lol

[dusky parrot]

I only use shift for 1,2,3,4. I dont have the dexterity to do anything more than that

[solemn elm]

ctrl 123 could help you

just gotta move the fingy a little bit lower

i like the name of the intervene friend one just bud

the arena 123 targetting is good but its alot of extra steps i will say,

this thing

god tier

doesnt target random pee pet

doesnt target non sense

i just press it and its more than enough usually

[jolly rune]

control + 123, alt + 123, that kinda thing

[dusky parrot]

THATS AN OPTION?

[jolly rune]

wait yeah wtf

[solemn elm]

it always has been an option

welcome to the club