pvp

[dusky parrot]

I also like how it says "using mobility" as if I don't get kited by a dude summoning a literal horse whenever

[urban skiff]

we don't have our pocket healer today

[dusky parrot]

the hilarious amount of irony with it

[green wharf]

[idle falcon]

gg

[dusky parrot]

Hottake:

Warriors should have the calvary theme to them, not paladins

Like have something called "mount of might" same schtick

[urban skiff]

Having played unholy, i can say the mounted combat shit never feels good

[dusky parrot]

Really? I find it satisfying

[green wharf]

eeeee i dont think so no

doesnt fit much

unless we get a knight spec

sword and board

fight mounted

[dusky parrot]

YES that

[green wharf]

would be dope

[dusky parrot]

Im still crying for 2h shield

with fury

And I still think that if we're "Armsmasters" why aren't weapon specific bonuses still a thing. Like even if it becomes a repeating meta its still sick

like maces being able to stun, swords giving extra attacks and stuff

[urban skiff]

Because you're going to have a season where mace is the best and then they only provide swords

[dusky parrot]

not even that, just make it an active ability that you click and it "switches" ur weapon giving you different bonuses that you cycle through. like blessing of dawn/night

[urban skiff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/throw-up-dry-heave-13

Those cycling talents are the fastest way to turn me off of playing any class or spec

[dusky parrot]

eh I think its rad

Im very inspired by Sohei from for honor, where his whole kit is using 7 diff weapons

[urban skiff]

Don't get me wrong, i love D4 barbarian having 4 weapon sets

[dusky parrot]

maybe if it was like a pet bar for hunters but each icon is a weapon. Maybe thats literally just stances reinvented but hey- food for thought

better yet- just give warrior back all 3 stances and not only give lame passives

[green anchor]

literally enh

[urban skiff]

what

[green wharf]

good reason why it was removed

it wasnt balanced

and it was impossible to

[dusky parrot]

And what’s wrong with it not being balanced if the description and class fantasy is to be a supreme master of melee combat?

As if other classes don’t have complete bs kits

[green anchor]

Blaze & Crash cycle into something else

[urban skiff]

what

[green anchor]

not crash

Sunder

into Primordial Storm

[urban skiff]

that's not cycling talents

[green wharf]

cause whats the point of being weapon master

if you are going to use only one weapon anyway

[urban skiff]

Blessing of the seasons is a cycling talent, Sundering -> primordial storm is a combo

[green anchor]

holy

I hate the new lightning bolt visual

[green wharf]

lol

its dope as hell

[green anchor]

not even how lightning works lmao

[urban skiff]

tjere

there's a new one?

[green anchor]

sadly yes

[urban skiff]

I didn't even notice tbh

too busy pressing storm strike

[green anchor]

https://youtu.be/-sLai79eAsY

🤢

[urban skiff]

I kind of like how it looks like I'm pulling lightning off of the ground

worth remembering that it's called lightning BOLT

[green anchor]

the vfx around your char during the cast is better now but the bolt itself is ass

[urban skiff]

I kind of always pictured it like you're launching a pebble with ridiculous electric potential that gets discharged when contacting a target

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/toV8Dqj.png

[urban skiff]

I wish flurry didn't make my hands glow, it's ruining a lot of animations

[green anchor]

like why the blue cloud and sparks

so overcooked

[urban skiff]

New deal with NVIDIA to increase sales of gpus?

[green anchor]

🧠

[urban skiff]

jk nvidia is going to move towards cloud computing soon and stop selling GPUs to people

then eventually you pay $250 for NVIDIA NOW or whatever it is

[green anchor]

no one can afford their shit anyway

[urban skiff]

per month

[green anchor]

go with AMD

[urban skiff]

thinking about moving stock into AMD, if the AI bubble bursts soon NVIDIA is the backbone of that and will crash pretty badly

will make AMD look better

but if they take AMD down with them it's better to buy right after the crash and not before

I'm not smart enough for this

[idle falcon]

I'm still waiting for shout warrior

the aug spec of warrior

we support people with shouts

[green anchor]

would be pretty annoying with how bad some race/gender voices are

[urban skiff]

lmao

My big wish is still invisible fist weapons that'll change fight animations to whatever race's baseline is

I have a worgen dream I cannot live

@idle falcon if you can get me a TLDR on how to hpal and deal damage I'll gear that up so we can play when wife is sleepy

[idle falcon]

no idea

xd

[green anchor]

Holy pala getting a choice between being a melee or ranged healer in midnight is great

might get back to it instead of playing R druid

[urban skiff]

blizzard fuckin' cooking with the gladiator weapons next season

[urban skiff]

last i heard they gave them crusader strike back and now the other half is unhappy

Did blizzard finally remember that this is exactly the situation they created talent points for?

make first talent in the entire holy tree be a choice between ranged or melee hpal and be done with it

[green wharf]

im never a fan of these parts in wow weapons

they are shaped so weird

[urban skiff]

while shaped weird, the pommel's purpose is to be a counterweight so the balance point moves to around your crossguard

[green wharf]

i know, they could be shapped better

like this is the official gorehowl look, see the pommel shape?

this is what we got ingame

man i would kill for one of these replicas

[idle falcon]

oof

[urban skiff]

the warmonger set also looks great

[urban skiff]

I would love the room to have a workshop so I could make this stuff myself

[solemn elm]

new enchant is really good

and if you get a 3d printer you can create that yourself

[green wharf]

the flying balls?

i dont think imma ever gonna use that

[solemn elm]

just a matter of taste

last few ones have been really what ever other than arcane

[green wharf]

i use berserking illusion most of the time

work great with more mundane mogs

[solemn elm]

effect is too low quality and old to be used

[green wharf]

fire illussion, frost illusion, thats about it

[solemn elm]

only1 i really use is just primal storm just a storm around the weapon

[green wharf]

if you pump the effects on ultra it look good

[solemn elm]

and arcane too sometimes

[green wharf]

i dont have primal storm

is pvp right

i bet it is

[solemn elm]

yea df s1 2100 enchant

[green wharf]

mark of the thunderlord it is

[solemn elm]

what ones do you have

[green wharf]

wdym

[solemn elm]

what pvp enchants do you have

mark of the black rock under rated

[green wharf]

only of this expansion

cuz is where i started doing ranked pvp

[urban skiff]

game needs more shields that are worn like this

[solemn elm]

you have the challenge mode shit zercher?

[solemn elm]

which one you like the most

[green wharf]

meh, the arcane one i guess

but im never going to use them i think

maybe the holy fire for paladins

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[urban skiff]

yeah

I also have the MoP warlock one because of how good it looked

never bothered with the other MoP looks because they weren't as great as the warlock one

[green wharf]

i remember the sword from the mop challenge look like shit

but a lot of people use it cause they think its great

[grand scaffold]

i cant believe auto attack matters more than rampage

[solemn elm]

do you use the shaman weapons

they are actually so good

i don’t think i’d ever take that off

has the sickest effect in the entire game

and cloud song glaive

i’m jealous

[urban skiff]

not really

[solemn elm]

big fan of the soul eater dagger aswell

[urban skiff]

You mean the axe that changes between cold and fire

[solemn elm]

WATT why not

[urban skiff]

Eh, got old after a while

[solemn elm]

yeah

those are so good

[urban skiff]

I have a theme I like for now

[solemn elm]

those are like the enhancement shaman weapons

[urban skiff]

Enhancement isn't even cold damage anymore

[solemn elm]

last time enhance was good too 😞

[urban skiff]

🙁

[solemn elm]

yep

i still love them since they go on your back aswell

[urban skiff]

anyone know why i have a permanent glow?

[solemn elm]

das beacon of light

[urban skiff]

wha

[solemn elm]

when you put it on someone they get that effect

beacon of light the buff you put on your friends or your self so they get healin too

you can beacon 2 people

oh and it’s also cause you’re special that’s why ur glowing :)

[urban skiff]

what's the difference

[solemn elm]

pink one is the most effective one

blue one puts another one at a little bit less effectiveness

whatever your main target you’re going to heal should have the pink one

or whoever is gonna take the peenar

[urban skiff]

crates are betraying me today, bottom is the good stats

[urban skiff]

do i ever end up wanting to switch them around or is it not worth it, if I know who the enemy will mostly attempt to kill?

[solemn elm]

i don’t notice pallys doing that really nah

don’t over think it too much just use them healing abilitys

[urban skiff]

never had this bad luck before

I just want to clap people as hpal

i did a tiny bit of denounce in s2 but never got geared enough to not hate being weak

[wheat jay]

you get clapped as hpal

[urban skiff]

eh

[solemn elm]

pretty average luck with boxes honestly

[urban skiff]

my feral was fully geared and 1800 before I got my weapon tokens

that's how my luck has always been

[wheat jay]

xd

canyou even get weapons from box?

[urban skiff]

yea of course

[solemn elm]

you can get everything from boxes

just depends on your luck really

[urban skiff]

my hunter got polearm -> bow from the first two crates in s2

[wheat jay]

i deadass thought weapons are ONLY from token

lol

[solemn elm]

nah you can get blessed and get it before hand

[wheat jay]

fair

[urban skiff]

My tactic for alts is to farm like 2500 conq, then throw a few crates over and after i saved a shitton of conq by converting tier pieces i buy / craft the rest

[solemn elm]

i just log in and send over like a million boxes and just pray lol

and if i get shitty stat shit whatever just fix it later really

usually not the reason why i lose

[urban skiff]

to keep alts rolling i try and save as much as possible

[solemn elm]

lol damn i just play a lot for no reason

i got an unhealthy amount of conquest

[urban skiff]

for example converting a few warmonger pieces if it's all i'm missing is fine

[solemn elm]

give me a lil mog with the fel blade if you got it on that pally i’ll give you a little dollar

[urban skiff]

in S1 my one shaman had made like 40k conq season earned

and we know that's not counting what I made over the cap while there was still a cap early season

[solemn elm]

the fel blade is so sick i am unbelievably jealous of zercher now

[urban skiff]

fel blade?

[solemn elm]

one handed sword with a very sick animation

it’s completely green

[urban skiff]

ah that one

[solemn elm]

wait that sucks

uhh

it’s too hard to explain

[urban skiff]

there's a season that i never use it

can't remember why

[solemn elm]

but it has such a sick animation

it’s just more of a rogue weapon das why

i just love it cause it’s a 1 handed

[urban skiff]

I'm so upset the first weapons look so bad

it's the one with the most potential too

[solemn elm]

what were they again? i forgot

i only remember cs glaive OBVIOUSLY greatsword of the inferno

and the mace aswell

and shield

and soul eater dagger and the one that is full of light

then you just reminded me of the sick shaman ones

[solemn elm]

omg yeah

those actually have so much potential but they suck

[solemn elm]

it’s just fist weapons suck in general ( my opinion please don’t kill me for it) i do love kargaths weapon from wod there needs to be more fist weapons like that

[urban skiff]

fun fact, the gun has a different bullet animation

[solemn elm]

yeah they’re blue

i remember

[urban skiff]

like shoots a laser beam pellet thing

[solemn elm]

it’s pretty dope

those are probably the best looking weapons in the past legit 10 years bro

[urban skiff]

lmao, oh yeah i forgot there was a prereq to send this

[solemn elm]

i wish i could be fury with double cloud song glaive

that’s what i’d do

if i was you

or double greatsword of the inferno

[urban skiff]

eh, i use the greatswords already

[solemn elm]

my god

so jealous

[urban skiff]

sec, i'll end it after i transfer this conq

[solemn elm]

get gladiator in midnight and you will be a gangster with your challenge mode shit

promise you

you are eu right

[urban skiff]

carry me to glad then

yea

[solemn elm]

broooo

if you were NA i’d do it for free my guy

[urban skiff]

my limit rating is whatever my wife can reach

[solemn elm]

LMAO that’s really sweet i wish my partner played wow, ive tried a lot to get them into it but its just not for them

i respect it

in a way it does restrict you tho i swear you play with some good homies you just chill out and you’ll climb so hard

and just play more 3v3

3v3 is what makes someone better at the game period fr fr

[solemn elm]

i hate the kul tiran but the swords are just bis

could never hate

[urban skiff]

KTHuman because space marine body

[solemn elm]

they will add something like that soon to the game

for sure

[wheat jay]

go haranir now

they're primaris XD

[urban skiff]

nah

[solemn elm]

i got a dark iron now and i already hate sitting roots cause im not gnome :p

[urban skiff]

that's why i play enh

it's all the fun of warrior but also you don't give a fuck about so much shit enemy team can attempt to do to you

[solemn elm]

can just turn into a lil ghost wolf

also got freedom no

the one ability with the orange paws on it

[urban skiff]

They just need to make bloodlust cast on a random nearby dps / healer if targeting yourself, same as power infusion currently does

[solemn elm]

i forget the name

[urban skiff]

yea but I don't use that one

as enhancement I almost never sit in roots

[solemn elm]

it does does it not with the heroism pvp talent ?

my friend gives me lust in arena as thunder always

[urban skiff]

more crates lets go

[solemn elm]

good luck

[urban skiff]

nope, you have to use party12 for that

[solemn elm]

but aswell as my friend as turbo

[urban skiff]

and I don't like that I have to check where people are right before I hit one or risk not lusting at the right time and having them get desynced

[solemn elm]

i’m confusion isn’t there a pvp talent that just lets you give lust to your homie as chammy

you should just send that shit

[urban skiff]

yea but that's still 3 different keybinds just to be able to play normally

[solemn elm]

so :o

ctrl 123 s123

[urban skiff]

one for casting on myself, one for casting on party1, one for party2

if they moved to having it work like power infusion it would just free up keybinds with no adverse effects in arenas

and for blitz it doesn't even work because if you have lust sated effect then it doesn't do anything even though visually it does

bad start

shit crates

straight up

[green anchor]

you need more cloaks

[urban skiff]

it's wild how they stuff crates full of cloaks like we don't have a gimmick item this season

just exactly managed to hit my gear goals

shoulder is warmonger though

all vers, all mastery gear

I love I can have a friendly target and still nuke whatever I want with attacks

[urban skiff]

i don't understand this healing thing

[lavish quest]

https://x.com/wowhead/status/2017404059825701358?s=46&t=3dojMHt-s2W1IaAn5GB1kw

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

A new secret has been discovered by the super sleuths of the Secret Finding & Collections Discord, which appears to be the first step in joining the Secretive Cabal of the Mind-Seekers!

#warcraft #midnight

https://t.co/BENNBTpGBo

X · Jan 31, 2026, 1:06 AM

I knew the cabal was real

[wheat jay]

eyo

anyone tried farmhood in pvp?

cuz this looks kinda broken ngl

you can track where ppl are

enemies, homies

range of spells

and so on

would it even work in pvp?

cuz im fairly sure its the same idea as DBM feature banned by blizz ages ago

@urban skiff youre into addons

ever gave it a try?

[urban skiff]

It's just a minimap without the background

• waypoints

I don't see why it wouldn't work

lol except blizzard did stuff to it

[wheat jay]

ahhh okay

fair fair

techincally you can make it smaller

ui elements still work

you only cant click on nameplate

wait

but you cna make it transparent kinda

so its just overlay XD

you cant see minimap, but you can see homies where they are in arena

if you play hunter and have track humanoids you can see players in arena too on it

afaik

not 100% sure tho

[urban skiff]

even practice mode isn't protected from hunterpocalypse

literally just slamming damage buttons and WOG

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985520109487538247/1467201363409633332/image0.jpg?ex=697f8540&is=697e33c0&hm=bae472b7f643c8829fc8ff3de39d2fc074d4bb6c4b9a2ee20145c27886998ec6&

[stray glen]

For arms PVP does anyone know what stats we should be aiming for and/or recommended talent tree? I am having a hard time putting some proper damage on the board

[modest shadow]

CcEAmaXYRr39NNAQKu+E/lY36BzMzsMzwMDAAAghphZGmZjZegZGYmZAAAAAMzyMDIjhtZxMbDbGGMzMtQzMYDMDLzsMzsYZsMAmBAMA

[stray glen]

thank you

are you leaning towards haste or mastery?

[modest shadow]

Oh Idk I was just watching Bajheera the other night and was liking that build

[rancid granite]

the arms builds seem good and easy and fun

need @copper fox to make fury builds and guides tho

[jolly rune]

what the frig they nerfed second wind in pvp

hows it gonna save me from dh burst now

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/it-wont-mikey-day-saturday-night-live-not-going-to-work-it-will-not-gif-25237223

[dusky parrot]

Did you know they buffed dh too in the same patch

LMAO

[jolly rune]

tbf i have as much trouble in solos right now against sub rogue and bm as dh

they can kill in a single stun, it's wild

[dusky parrot]

Yeah I hate the change too. The sustain was good

All they needed to do was need second wind for prot and leave it for arms and fury

It was strong. But not broken to where you’re immortal lmao

[wheat jay]

Are you guys mad over prepatch tuning?

[dusky parrot]

Absolutely

Because 2% second wind was an actual good change

[fickle forge]

I don't see the nerf?

We also didn't spec SW anyway

SW blows

[green wharf]

it was 2¨%

[green wharf]

it was good now and we did

them rextroy made the meme video

[fickle forge]

No we didn't brother

[green wharf]

and blizz scary nerfed everything

[fickle forge]

Second Wind has blown since it got readded

Awful talent

[stray glen]

are you guys having more success with fury or arms in general in pvp?

[wheat jay]

Ppl so clueless lmao

Ye guys keep playing sw

[jovial torrent]

even on mop classic second wind doesnt feel that good tbh

[wheat jay]

Always

Will be easier to win later on xD

Sure

[jovial torrent]

in original mop it felt good but mop classic ppl just blow through it now

[green wharf]

dude, did you missed the talent got 100% buffed in pre-patch

[wheat jay]

And was still shit

Bruh xD

Won't save you

[jovial torrent]

it was pretty good, tho dampening cucked it

[wheat jay]

Make it 5% still won't save you most of the time

[jovial torrent]

id much rather have the heal x% when rooted/stun tho

[green wharf]

it wasnt

they literally nerf in half lol

[dusky parrot]

As arms. I could beat full conq ret, feral, rogue, mage and lock

These were very seasoned pvpers who knew their shit

It wasn’t bad. It was goated

I’m going to reiterate AS ARMS

The SHITTEST duel spec was doing numbers on them

[fickle forge]

Are you talking duels brother?

Duels are meme

[dusky parrot]

It’s still good. With stance mastery you can pull some CRAZY comebacks

Worked good in shuffle against hunter kite

[hot solstice]

Love when rets lay, bubble, bop in duel and act like it’s completely fair. Ah same as these guys who start duel while having that wpvp bubble buff

[dusky parrot]

^^^^^^

BUT NAH WE’RE the broken ones

[fickle forge]

Okay, but duels are irrelevant in competitive PvP

[dusky parrot]

Still did good in my time in shuffle being in 2440 cr 2600 mmr

[fickle forge]

You can spec half a tree and go 2.4k in shuffle man

[wheat jay]

Well, send details and healing done by it from those shuffles, otherwise we won't know

[wheat jay]

And that ye lmao

[fickle forge]

It doesn't mean your niche talent is good

[dusky parrot]

How is the warrior discord filled with such non believers

[hot solstice]

They are but some ppl act like it matter. “Lel I beat that warrior on glad mount cause lay bubble bop, I must be better then him”

[wheat jay]

More like we gotta stop delusions early

Cuz they're, well

Delusions

[fickle forge]

You're missing a better flex talent by going SW

[wheat jay]

^

[dusky parrot]

Do tell

5% speed?

[wheat jay]

5% speed unironically good lol

[fickle forge]

That's one yeah

[dusky parrot]

YEP

ITS JOEVER

[wheat jay]

?

Are you not taking move speed on warr?

Are you some uptime god that's never slowed with 100% uptime?

[fickle forge]

If you're being kited by hunter, a tiny bit of healing compared to speed or longer shockwave seems pretty int

[dusky parrot]

I’m not saying it’s no good. I’m saying it’s straight up not going to change much

[dusky parrot]

When I combo’d SW with Def stance (with stance mastery) you give a lot of breathing room for healer to catch you back up

[fickle forge]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that shockwave range and cdr is definitely going to matter a lot more than briefly healing like 0.8% per sec lmao

[wheat jay]

You nullify 1/3 of one dot I guess

[dusky parrot]

I’m referring to when SW was 2%

[fickle forge]

So am I

It's mid

[dusky parrot]

For me, that shit did not lie nor lack

[fickle forge]

You factor in MS and your 50% shuffle damp, and your talent is gone

[dusky parrot]

I wish I did record it but I didn’t think blizz fun police would fuck my day up

[green wharf]

gotta love the logic people use here too

[prime solar]

Rextroy abused a prot only talent “Power Through Adversity”, so they panic nerfed all 3 specs by 50%

[green wharf]

"talent was literally shit"
->gets nerfed by 50%"

[dusky parrot]

Syeg knows the ball knowledge

[dusky parrot]

I wouldn’t even say abuse. Bro theorycrafted immortality because blizz didn’t think ahead. Rex is both goated and a tattletail LOL

[fickle forge]

Ye must be why

[prime solar]

When you're smarter than Blizzard, and prove it, we suffer.

[dusky parrot]

Much like the Warrior from beta that proved Warrior wasn’t bad then it got nerfed even harder LOL

God what was his name. It was in black rock and he solos a whole room of orcs?

[wheat jay]

So they nerfed a talent that you wouldn't play anyway

[prime solar]

Indalmar?

[wheat jay]

Whats the actual problem here

Legit

[dusky parrot]

Yeah!

[wheat jay]

It was not good in arena

In the slightest

[green wharf]

how do you know

[wheat jay]

???

[prime solar]

I used it in BG blitz and open world. I liked having a shot at a 1v1

[green wharf]

brother you werent playing war in arena after the talent got buffed

[dusky parrot]

Warriors entire flaw. Is that it has no self sustain in return for high dmg and pressure. So having the second wind buff helped that flaw ever so slightly

[wheat jay]

Sure, in open world and 1v1 maybe

But pvp is not 1v1

[prime solar]

You're missing the other activity I mentioned.

[wheat jay]

Bgblitz

Brother there's healers

[dusky parrot]

It felt badass too to spin mid in a bg and second wind through 5 people. Buys so much time for people to peel

[wheat jay]

2nd wind through 5 ppl?

What?

Am

I

[dusky parrot]

With a healer of course

[wheat jay]

Even

Reading

[prime solar]

again weird hill to die on when this was a talent that worked for some players, and it was just nerfed due to not understanding the abuse of another talent.

[wheat jay]

Well it may come as a surprise, but that's healer healing you, not 2nd wind

[fickle forge]

I see a lot of yapping, but nobody posting any numbers

[sharp meteor]

What are you all on about now

[dusky parrot]

Yeah no one expected it to be nerfed

Because it was good

[wheat jay]

Ppl mad they can't play their best talent ever created that made them permanently immortal

[green wharf]

kargish and artji were saying SW was literally shit before the nerf anyway

[fickle forge]

It's cut in half, take current value and x2

[hot solstice]

guys its soo soon to tell what is right or wrong, wait till release ull get at least 1 pvp tunning

[sharp meteor]

It just got reverted to what it was a week ago.

[green wharf]

so it made no difference

[wheat jay]

Yes

[prime solar]

Oh...he thinks arms and fury could be immortal with it.

[dusky parrot]

Only for prot*

[wheat jay]

Thats how all of you are acting

It wasn't even played

[jovial torrent]

the problem wasnt 2nd wind, it was that + 40% dmg reduction from prot pvp talent, on fury it was decent

[wheat jay]

And wouldn't be played with the buff either

[green wharf]

but thats the point artji

[wheat jay]

Cuz it was shit

[prime solar]

is playing it

[jovial torrent]

would make ppl think twice about pickign warrior as kill target

[green wharf]

it wasnt played, they buff so now people could play

[dusky parrot]

FINALLY WE GOT BELIEVERS

[green wharf]

but they nerfed again, because a prot video

lol

[wheat jay]

Still there are better players

[sharp meteor]

In the darkest depths if you living with second wind on a spec other than prot.

[wheat jay]

Talents*

[sharp meteor]

Even on prot only useful for the DR it gives.

[fickle forge]

Then you're in world PvP vs a guy using single button rotation

[prime solar]

I was definitely noticing it on my fury. I was able to linger a little bit longer without healers, and hold my own in 1v1s at points

[hot solstice]

ppl dont realise how broked bleeds healing is vs pet specs btw

[jovial torrent]

uh dh bm lobbies plz

[green wharf]

this boosted as well

[dusky parrot]

Cleave and spread bleeds with fueled by violence bigggg heal

[hot solstice]

bm isnt even standing near dh/dk/sub/arcane

[dusky parrot]

Rextroy did say it wasn’t effected

[green wharf]

it should be

[sharp meteor]

Why are we finding ourselves in 1v1s as a dps warrior

[green wharf]

another bug on the list

[wheat jay]

Okay can we actually get some screenshots from details of said big heals?

[wheat jay]

Cuz we're in 1600mmr?

[green wharf]

they nuked addons

[prime solar]

because it's fun and is video game

[wheat jay]

No they didn't, details still work

[sharp meteor]

Blizz bricked details for being an elitist bourgeois addon

[sharp meteor]

?

[prime solar]

Not all pvp that players engage in has a rank attached.

[sharp meteor]

Idk what that has to do with anything.

[wheat jay]

Friend was streaming and he had details xD

[sharp meteor]

Ya its just gutted down to be barely functional

[wheat jay]

Irrelevant to pvp talk then?

[dusky parrot]

Especially on Moongaurd where it’s closed and there’s a lot of personal guild vendettas that make PvP exciting and badass

[jovial torrent]

im not sure why were trying to argue second wind was meaningless heal, it was decent, not a invincible god mode but losing it will hurt warrior

[dusky parrot]

Fun to beat the shit out of someone over arguments lol

[prime solar]

I feel like you would self-immolate before saying 'hey yeah they did nerf that talent for the wrong reason'

[wheat jay]

Cuz it wasn't player, and wouldn't be with the buff either, at least at decent eating

[jovial torrent]

it seemed like it would be very playable on fury warrior

[wheat jay]

Well, reason for nerfdoesn't matter to me here

[dusky parrot]

With bloodthirst crits healing double it was REALLY good

[prime solar]

totally respect that. but other people think it matters.

[green wharf]

i think the talent was great versus classes with dots by example, since the pad healing was enough to give a boost of survival, so the healer had an easier time, or when he was stunned/disabled, worked great on bgs as well, now its just crap again because a meme video

[wheat jay]

You guys claiming it was some amazing talent that will giga nerf warrior is what matters to me here, and you're wrong with that take

[jovial torrent]

were not trying to claim its amazing, were just saying its not worthless like you are

[prime solar]

you very well could be right. we'll see when the game comes out

[hot solstice]

isnt war like mid since sl?

[green wharf]

it wasnt amazing, just ok, actually playable

[wheat jay]

Sure you can like the talent, sure it was cool in open world, but this is literally #pvp channel

[dusky parrot]

You can PvP in open world

[green wharf]

give the warrior the feel of being a lil bit tanky

[wheat jay]

So we talk about actual pvp where numbers matter

[green wharf]

now, shush gone

[wheat jay]

If you wanted to play open world pvp you wouldn't be playing warrior in the first place

[jovial torrent]

warrior was always best when it had a bit of selfheal

[prime solar]

casual BG's, Blitz, open world, arena, skirms. All pvp.

[dusky parrot]

I had an always will. And second wind made that goated and even

[prime solar]

Unless we want to say this is a rated pvp only channel

[green wharf]

counterpoint this is not #arena channel

[sharp meteor]

1v1ing people on warr in casual pvp is basically beating senior citizens without mice

[wheat jay]

Counterpoint none of those things matter in anything other than arena

Sadly

[dusky parrot]

They matter if you have fun

And shit I had fun not being dead in 2 seconds

[jovial torrent]

counter counter point arena hasnt mattered for 10 y4ars

[prime solar]

Just as useful in group fights with 6 people smashing you. That 2% + talent + leech pays off.

[green wharf]

but the warrior is the senior citizen right

[dusky parrot]

I know this guy plays paladin.. I just can’t prove it

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[prime solar]

blizzard balance agitator getting wow tokens under the table

[hot solstice]

cant lose rating in wpvp

[dusky parrot]

You’ve heard of big pharama now get ready for big blizzard

Lobbied by blisrael

[jovial torrent]

midnights too far away, i just wana see the shitshow of weakauraless gameplay and the squish/rework bugs

[green wharf]

artji is a boomsticker enjoyer, so he is automatically wrong about stuff

[wheat jay]

Nah paladin already left

@afrowastaken

See

[jovial torrent]

actually considering leveling a mage in tbc for some pom pyro lols

[dusky parrot]

Usual suspects…

[green wharf]

can you imagine he here now

he would be malding

[wheat jay]

Hahaha

[wheat jay]

Im gonna be a collapsing star enjoyer soon

[jovial torrent]

[wheat jay]

Yeee you really don't

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[jovial torrent]

conquest gearing multiple chars fucking suck tho

[dusky parrot]

Context? I’m guessing paladin malder saying their class is bad and overlooked

[wheat jay]

Nah he left cuz we talked politics

[copper fox]

@rancid granite I’ll make a follow along gear guide + multiple builds closer to release

Taking a break from the game rn

[jovial torrent]

guna play fury again?

[rancid granite]

right on

of course he is gonna be fury lol

[green wharf]

you think

S1 arms prob gonna be shit again, so we will all be fury

[grand scaffold]

anybody know if outlaw rogue is gonna get buffed

[green wharf]

they get a buff with arms next build

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-turkishedits-twitch-twitch-emote-emote-gif-19815447

[grand scaffold]

😎

warrior feels so goofy

its so weird playing rogue with this

[stray glen]

so genuine question here

collosus or slayer arms for pvp?

[copper fox]

Always

[vital quarry]

Did you play any SM2?

[solemn elm]

i’ll b helping with guide aswell

also neither the talent you play is log out and create a devourer

seriously though you can play slayer and just attack and keep it simple

[green wharf]

i will not play an elf

[solemn elm]

you know i should really introduce you to this truly fascinating thing called i morph

you ever wonder why i’m an orc on stream

but i’m actually gnome

[green wharf]

i saw your stream as a gnome

[solemn elm]

just this thing you can run called i morph and just switch to any race or model at any time but it is 3rd party software don’t tell nobody about it

[green wharf]

sus

[solemn elm]

ah i started to use it more later on

[green wharf]

i think the imorph is against tos

might eb careful with that one

[solemn elm]

it is but regardless every single pvper uses it anyways especially on stream and then also they don’t exactly ban for that i think they have bigger fish to fry

i have been using this program since i was a child and it was called like t morph instead

should be safe but if you want to be safe i respect it

[green wharf]

yeah i dont have the best of luck

[solemn elm]

lmao it’s there if you want i have been using it forever and i mean come on . i pick the race i actually want to be male orc warrior

that is like the race you play to just feel like you really are pummeling someone

[green wharf]

i got blizz warning for saying normal words

and they delete my posts in the forum for less

i will not push it

easy for then to ban my account if i do something they dont like

and use it as an excuse

[solemn elm]

LMAO pretty normal to get the warnings you didn’t get silenced so that’s what matters

[green wharf]

i do get silenced in the forums now and them

[solemn elm]

ah but that’s nothing i don’t even use those forums i forgot they existed

[bright kraken]

which do we prefer

[jovial torrent]

i prefer e @bright kraken

[bright kraken]

Ty

That was the one I made 4(?) years ago 😭

[jovial torrent]

i feel like u could mix from 30-39 of storm into e

[bright kraken]

thank you for your imput

i'll think on it

[solemn elm]

very cool

i like e more same here

[bright kraken]

damn

i appreciate the thoughts, that's why i came here, but the second was made when i was a lot better as music so crying inside 😭

like this is another recent ish creation of mine

though i intend to recreate this one too

[spice hornet]

Its So Joever

[bright kraken]

you mean from? or just that 9 second segment

bit confused sorry

[spice hornet]

I Took A 5 Year Break From Technology And Missed Gladiator

[bright kraken]

f

[jovial torrent]

@bright kraken that segment, checking again more like 28 secs to 44

[green wharf]

for what

torture?

:kappa

but i like the second

[rancid granite]

what choppah saidd mix ffom 30-39 of storm into e and gg

[wheat jay]

exposed

@bright kraken i played all 3 at once, my brain is fried

[bright kraken]

fucking dumbass

[wheat jay]

what can i say

oh btw my cat is all weird now 🙁

well, mad calm

like, hes sooooooooooooooo calm

lying down all the time

[jolly rune]

does this have a use case in arena or is it dumb

[wheat jay]

i was expecting him to be mad agitated and angry after losing his balls

[wheat jay]

its only for blitz

you dont want to lose heroic leap in arena

[jolly rune]

true

[bright kraken]

tbh porbably should if you're sub 1.8k

so you dont leap behind a wall and los your healer against their whole team

[green wharf]

he is depressed after the nip nip

[bright kraken]

[green wharf]

its dumb

[wheat jay]

lmao

like, i am concerned

vet said his test will fall low after like 6 weeks

but mans barely meowing

didnt play with the laser 🙁

[green wharf]

its normal, testosterone levels low

i think it takes a bit to recover

[green wharf]

its like MUD

[wheat jay]

ok

man i feel bad 🙁

but it had to be done

[bright kraken]

what's cat lore

did bro lose childrenmaking privileges

[wheat jay]

yes

he was too agressive

every time he went outside hed come back with 20 diff cuts

and other cats' fury under his claws

so, had to be done to keep the man alive

[bright kraken]

poor baby

cat's tryna get irl r1 😭

[wheat jay]

legit lmao

[scarlet sorrel]

my friend was telling me there is some build that makes slam do huge damage... I have tried firguring it out and cant seem to come up with anything useful/find anything where it is described how it works... anyone know wtf he was talking about?

[violet fossil]

He’s just down in the dumps

Don’t worry

[wheat jay]

are there any good working ps3 emulators?

[green wharf]

just take all the slam talents

and the one that lower the rage

thats it

[scarlet sorrel]

I see. he was telling me he was 2-3 tapping people in blitz with that... I dont seem to be able to do that.. is he capping?

[scarlet sorrel]

thanks!

[green wharf]

prob

damage is high but one tapping is too much

maybe with people with no gear

[solemn elm]

dat shit is ass

oh whoops i responded to the wrong person

i’m so fried

[solemn elm]

dat shit is ass unless you doin blitz

[wheat jay]

Eyo wtf

Rude xD

[jolly rune]

i tried it, it feels cool and disruptive but like

knocking everyone around doesn't actually solve a problem it just increases the zug

and probably pisses off my solo queue partners

i just wanna say a warlock knocked 20 feet in the air ain't castin no chaos bolts

[green wharf]

if dragon charge had a lesser CD

it would be worth to get some mages

but alas

[jolly rune]

yo actually, probably a bannable exploit, doesn't stunning people midair make them dc right now

you could lowkey gigacheese

[wheat jay]

It would have been cool as charge replacement, working the same as charge just knocking away whatever is in the way

Would have had some cool uses

Especially when peeling or going for the kill on healer

And everything is knocked away lol, can't peel

[jolly rune]

i wish it gave some kind of cc immunity, it would be so cool to just blow up out of a predator's wake

[solemn elm]

im sorry

[jolly rune]

warrior having knock feels right, it's just this ain't it

[wheat jay]

Its okay

[solemn elm]

i love u

[wheat jay]

Little black dumbo can't understand it anyway

[solemn elm]

LMAO

[wheat jay]

I slur at him 24/7 when scratching him behind his ears

He loves it

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-did-you-gif-25028897

[solemn elm]

😭

[bright kraken]

what

[jolly rune]

this

[bright kraken]

ahh

hmm

knock up, maybe, but i realise most classes that have knockback (hunter, mage, druid) are based around kiting

that said they also don't suually knock for kiting unless its eye of the storm

and shaman exists

[jolly rune]

yeah ours is just gigaclown chaos and disruption

but like non-beneficial disruption from my testing, i can't find any real use for it in arenas

other than an extreme disengage that leaves enemies unable to follow up for 2 seconds

but like that's the antithesis to zug

[bright kraken]

all things considered

i do think it would be better that blizzard is conservative with knockback in general

because it is just so fucky half the time lmao

but also to be fair, death grip exists

[jolly rune]

my war is herb/gather while i sit in queue, and literally right now if you land on a mining node wrong you get disconnected

if you get stunned during a knockback, disconnected

doesn't surprise me that knocks are jank if blizz is coding them

[green wharf]

warriors should be able to grap someone

and yeet them away

[jolly rune]

the turbo suplex

[bright kraken]

are you using steady flight?

[jolly rune]

https://tenor.com/view/brock-lesnar-german-suplex-daniel-bryan-wwe-survivor-series-gif-13000947

i wanna suplex a dh's balls up his own ass

[bright kraken]

give pummel 8 yards range and pull target to warrior if successful interrupt

i'm curious how op that shit would be lmao

[jolly rune]

is steady flight the name of the non-dragonriding flight

[green wharf]

isnt that just grip

[jolly rune]

i just use dragonriding

[green wharf]

i would rather a falcon punch

charger punch

charger stun/silence

bring it back

[jolly rune]

smash bros logic, higher damage means more distance

falcon punch a bubbled target to the moon

[bright kraken]

grip has 30 yrds (40 if talented) and i think maybe like 5 second longer cd

[jolly rune]

guys help me with my zug calculus

if there's a survival hunter and a devourer dh in solos

you wanna sit on surv right

after i hit 2150 everyone started playing the game diff

i'm hardstuck

dh doin triple backflips and kiting me for years

look at this damage

i'm LIMP

warrior gameplay is suddenly can i get to the fking target

[thorn herald]

Thinking of her(siege breaker)

[thorn herald]

Hit what's easiest

Sv also dies easier than dh

[jolly rune]

is there some way to break turtle

[thorn herald]

No

[sharp meteor]

good evening i hate demon hunters having 80% dodge with blur

[thorn herald]

Good evening I hate demon hunters

I wish we had an alligator smash move that broke turtle

Like alligators do to turtles irl

With the satisfying pop noise included

[jolly rune]

let's just change shattering throw to be an instant-cast suplex, breaks everything, stuns

[thorn herald]

I mean shatter needs something but being instant isn't it

[green wharf]

thats what shattering throw was supposed to be doing

breaking immunities/bubbles

[jolly rune]

why does hunter of all things get an undispellable immune

where's war's trynd ult

[thorn herald]

doesnt mean it should be instant cast

it should be hasted

[thorn herald]

because turtle isnt an immune

[jolly rune]

does it have some weakness

can i zug him during turtle

no ability is infallible right SURELY

[thorn herald]

they dont take dots off

turtle doesnt

[jolly rune]

the time has come

[lavish quest]

Yeah... but half a heal and he's chillin

[green wharf]

but i didnt said instant cast though

[solemn elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006266955923193947/1142652163475111936/6178907C-3E94-4E36-A2B8-AA734590A2E2.gif

[faint hemlock]

you actually capped out warrior rating, you may have hints turned off it tells you to reroll at that rating

[jolly rune]

it's a good thing i can't read

[faint hemlock]

a true warrior

[jolly rune]

you know i just learned they can't attack during turtle

maybe it's not that bad

[thorn herald]

they can throw traps tho

[hasty pulsar]

Why they nerf second wind

[sharp meteor]

cos they just buffed it by 100%

[hasty pulsar]

[faint hemlock]

warriors were cusping b tier spec had to be done

[hasty pulsar]

Ngl actually felt somewhat able to survive for a fleeting moment

Rooted rooted stunned into a root stun at least im healing real good

NERF

[faint hemlock]

rextroy video abused it on prot along with a pvp talent, nerf for everyone

[hasty pulsar]

I missed that video but heard about it earlier which made me learn about the nerf

Dude fuked us bad

[faint hemlock]

idk maybe nerfed for pve for all I really know, which is 99.9% of tuning, but timing didnt seem great lmao

[hasty pulsar]

Not touched for pve

Just PvP nerf

Not a single other nerf mentioned either not even dh and dk 1 shotting people and shit right now

[faint hemlock]

oh was it pvp specific? feelsbadman

[urban skiff]

not yet, it's on my list but the kind of game where I'll happily wait until it's 90% off on steam

[dusky parrot]

We live in a society where paladins have a meltdown and get 5% dmg buff across the board. But when we do a little too well for two seconds it’s a fun police squad ready to dump 70 nerfs into you

NEVER FORGET THAT THEY DID THAT

[urban skiff]

huh? They changed all the damage around for DH and I suspect the fix from beta to DH burst might also have been applied to retail

[green wharf]

they buffed dvourer actualy

[urban skiff]

they buffed the rotation because it was mind numbing

[vital quarry]

Understandable. I got 1k+ hours lol

[urban skiff]

i'm slowly falling back into old habits

no room for new games

[faint hemlock]

so we stage a walk out is what you're saying

[vital quarry]

ain't much to do now in wow anyway

[wheat jay]

ahahahhaa aoc is dead

[green wharf]

WDYM

[wheat jay]

eos

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1002602743640379543/1467410348691689588/image0.jpg?ex=698047e2&is=697ef662&hm=932a7d242893c00fed1764a33bf0302ca020c609b6bab54af18c087d52d0f5ac&=&format=webp&width=1004&height=272

ITS JOEVER HAHAHAHHAHAHA

THE SCAM IS DEAD

[green wharf]

i require context, i dont know anything about it

[wheat jay]

10yrs of development

200bucks alpha access

ppl called it scam

it turned out to be a scam

👍

[green wharf]

but what it is, a game?

[wheat jay]

ye

[dusky parrot]

Yeah asses of creation was another presumed wow killer

Turns out it killed itself

[green wharf]

[dusky parrot]

And nothing of value was lost

[wheat jay]

bro it was the biggest supposed wow killer

xD

well, asmongold video where?

[dusky parrot]

Yep.

[green wharf]

Wow is always its own killer with dumb stuff

they could be so much bigger

[wheat jay]

syeg

this is what we're talking about

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1402998504674033684/1467367595773792348/RDT_20260201_045448565953566112929308.jpg?ex=69802011&is=697ece91&hm=8c1b09e2179cc5d08930708412bae6c863905b7c153f5302f63c14400e160e59&=&format=webp&width=679&height=474

THE scam

[green wharf]

holy shit

half a thousand?

no fucking way

[wheat jay]

they were 200 bucks

this one is bigger

there were even bigger ones iirc

and once they got to steam like 2 months ago its 50

for alpha

[green wharf]

jesus

did people end up playing at least?

[wheat jay]

yes

an unfinished game

with few zones

[warm plinth]

And it sucked

[wheat jay]

cant tell

i wasnt dumb enough to buy it xD

[forest sinew]

name of that game?

[wheat jay]

ashes of creation

[forest sinew]

really?

woooow im shocked

[wheat jay]

why

[forest sinew]

I thought it was doing alright

[wheat jay]

it was obvious it was a scam lol

[forest sinew]

xD

[wheat jay]

and gameplay/system wise

anyone who read into it would know its dogshit lol

caravan system

with open world pvp

[forest sinew]

true lmao

[wheat jay]

no limit to number of players in said world pvp

it screams big guild = monopoly on caravans

[forest sinew]

true

another WoW competitor killed itself

[wheat jay]

xD ye

[forest sinew]

XDDD

[wheat jay]

im fairly sure it was in development for like 12 years

and still in alpha

nope, 10 years

[green wharf]

tbf

[forest sinew]

jesus

[green wharf]

i bet doing a mmo is very hard and time consuming

[forest sinew]

and all tthe hype it got from like asmon and shit, all that for nothing lmao

[wheat jay]

obviously

but when your game looks dogshit both ingame and on paper after 10yrs of devleopment

[forest sinew]

yeah, natural selection for all the people that spent money on the game

[wheat jay]

^

[forest sinew]

all those thumbs up on reviews

XDD

[urban skiff]

I can't remember the last time asmondgold promoted something that wasn't complete shit. He's one of those people where if you ever want to find the good or the ethical you just look at him and go the opposite direction.

[wheat jay]

wwm

its good

[copper fox]

Another wow killer dead

As usual

Glory to Azeroth

There will never be

A better game in the same genre

They tried for decades

[urban skiff]

The only way to kill a blizzard game is to be a company named blizzard and do like overwatch 2

[copper fox]

Correct

[urban skiff]

I pretty much haven't touched overwatch since they swapped to 2

[copper fox]

Same I stopped around then

[wheat jay]

riot mmo and gw3 will just be decent additions

but killing wow?

[urban skiff]

I won't say it's what stopped me from playing HotS2

[wheat jay]

nah, aint happeninig

ever

[urban skiff]

Any americans want a butterfly mog code?

this one

[copper fox]

Damn ashes started in 2016

A decade wasted

[urban skiff]

I'm certain the owners got paid a nice salary every year

[copper fox]

Yea I’m sure

[jolly rune]

guys how do you keep your mental when you have two successive 0/6 runs in solo shuffle

my zuggies are rustled

[urban skiff]

I post about it in here and people call me an idiot and now the 0-12 doesn't hurt as much anymore

[sharp meteor]

They actually made a bowtie.

Is it a helm or shirt or chest

[urban skiff]

it's helm

Apparently in my country we can get it without purchase

haven't tried myself

Watch at timestamp, I finally found the average mage player

https://youtu.be/W2_DsDRR3oY?t=220

[worldly oriole]

whens midnight come out

[urban skiff]

depends, are you rich or not?

feb 26th for richies and march 2nd for others

Season 1 begins march 17th

we should pin the dates

[worldly oriole]

what you mean richies

i got the highest xpac price

package

[urban skiff]

early access

[ebon steeple]

So you're a richie

[jolly rune]

early access is so lame this time around

you can't gain meaningful prog from professions or any advantage if they do it like last time, so the only reward is elf furniture

which has 0 testosterone

[urban skiff]

There's no early access. There's access for people who paid and there's later access for people who didn't

[wet pike]

Tf u mean I can't have Glyph of Gushing Wound as an Arms Warrior?

[urban skiff]

it's for prot gushing wound

[wet pike]

Fair enough

Still kind of scuffed that I can't have the visual effect on arms

[queen peak]

Holy fuck. Arms damage seems fine but the kiting is so bad

[sharp meteor]

no dmg no mobility no cr no bitches

buff war

[thorn herald]

Arms damage is super mid

[urban skiff]

compared to what?

[wheat jay]

dont look at dmg in prepatch...

[thorn herald]

It's super mid on beta

🙂

[urban skiff]

we're still 26 days away from release and we have 45 days until the season begins

[dusky parrot]

Doesn’t work anyway btw

[thorn herald]

I am aware we are waiting for tuning

[dusky parrot]

Had a new warrior and you can’t apply the glyph because blizz made it a talent. Eve then, doesn’t work

[thorn herald]

I can still say that the damage is very mid

[urban skiff]

Warrior has literally never been allowed to be bad, I'm certain they'll be fine this time around too

[thorn herald]

Lol

[urban skiff]

21 years of never being below average is a helluva streak

[dusky parrot]

“No I’m not bought out by big blizzard.”

[thorn herald]

It's been the worst melee in a few patches

But go off queen

[dusky parrot]

ITS A CONSPIRACY I SWEAR

[urban skiff]

I'm SMF THANE main

[dusky parrot]

I’ve done the same with the 50+ warrior alts