pvp

[fierce elm]

Yeah that talent aint being ran in arenas

[dusky parrot]

so far it works in duels

[solemn elm]

kill or be killed some hot dog water

[dusky parrot]

which- cool for the 3 people using it

[solemn elm]

unless you are 85 and dueling or doing world pvp

[dusky parrot]

fury has a bunch of passives and stacks to keep track of and it feels more like filler instead of a cohesive design

[green wharf]

kill or be killed with full stacks of death wish

should be poggers in blitz

[dusky parrot]

THIS MAN GETS IT

[rancid granite]

im super excited for being decent in wpvp/1v1s lmao

[dusky parrot]

its a highlight in a sense that its very much in character for a fury warrior

a berserker- too pissed to die

[rancid granite]

death wish too best ability in game it feels so bad to use it then play without it

[exotic forge]

It's so joever

[dusky parrot]

NO WHAT THE FUCK

[fierce elm]

yeaaah lmao

that would have been dummy thicc

[dusky parrot]

if its 2 seconds now, does this mean the proc rate will be higher?

[exotic forge]

They buffed the proc rate for HS, yes

50%

[dusky parrot]

knew it

I mean thats a fair change then

i mean with anger management and the new tier set. thats more than balanced

[exotic forge]

You could in theory have CSmash up every 20-30 sec

So the nerf isn't so bad, just weird

[dusky parrot]

PREPATCH BABY

[green wharf]

if it was 5 seconds still

CMash would be like

100%uptime

[dusky parrot]

i will never understand, game wise if you smash your opponents armor- that they recover from it in 10 seconds.

Like that should leave a lingering debuff

like if I CUT into your breastplate- that shit isn't fixing itself in 10 seconds. You would be at a disadvantage

[exotic forge]

CSmash has always been that way since its inception

well except when they changed it into a cooldown back in bfa, weird change

hasn't felt good to press since

[dusky parrot]

like at least in cata it made since- ignoring 100% of armor

[exotic forge]

50%* against players

[dusky parrot]

oh yeah right

[exotic forge]

64% if glyphed

6 seconds worth of armor pen

[dusky parrot]

oh weird this colossus change is strange

reducing the dmg given by stacks but upping the dmg on demolish itself

how many times as this ability been buffed and yet NO ONE uses it

hot take: if you want it to be viable and a hard choice to pick between slayer and colossus, just give demolish armor pen

because every time some priest shield tanks sit

at the least, make it go through absorbs

[exotic forge]

I mean, we are getting armor pen back in a way

it ain't much but it's something lol

[fierce elm]

was meta in PvE

and was shared meta in PvP

[dusky parrot]

and building stacks feels slower with unhinged being a slayer talent

I used unhinged to build up stacks faster

[green wharf]

galaxy brain colossus build
(do not steal)

[solemn elm]

i miss you unhinged

on colossus

easy stacks

[green wharf]

im already missing bladestorm

on colossus

[solemn elm]

LMAO i think that ability is too good to not have honestly

[dusky parrot]

its fuckin bladestorm

[green wharf]

is doing so nothing

[dusky parrot]

whats not to love

[green wharf]

they have to buff

[solemn elm]

i think you can take one out of the talent that looks like the prot ability revenge and just throw it into bladestorm

[dusky parrot]

but I agree its actually useless outside of being a root clear

[green wharf]

even slayer is doing poop damage

[dusky parrot]

PREPATCH BABY

[solemn elm]

well in general we are doing poop dmg

but i found mountain thane build that actually does damage

and isn’t doing it at 2 mph

[green wharf]

this one? seems like is gonna pump

[solemn elm]

if you want it

[dusky parrot]

thats cuz thunderblast has armor pen

[solemn elm]

if overpower hits hard as shit and isn’t the generate rage ability i think it’ll be good

[fierce elm]

Tactical Edge is gonna be absurdly good

[solemn elm]

i can’t tell if overpower is actually doing damage enough to tell if it’s really good honestly

but you’re probably right

they changed the icon of massacre 😡

[dusky parrot]

fr I thought we were getting slaughtering strikes for arms lol

[green wharf]

for colossus i think tis gonna be

we have tons of talents to buff for like 10% and 25%

and it does 35% on lower hp enemies

its gonna pump

[dusky parrot]

colossus really is a cool ass concept, shame its kinda overshadowed

Even got a colossus mog

[rancid granite]

nobody gonna steal this d/w

[green wharf]

you say that, but i can already see your switching talents at this moment

[lavish quest]

GUYS, I just logged in for the first time since prepatch, I need omega bis talents for my specs @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

HOLY

JUST LOGGED IN

[lavish quest]

Talents where?

[green wharf]

deep wounds feels hela bad now

since it only apply on a crit or suddent death

if we only had condemn

[solemn elm]

true actually, because your stacks buff your overpower i literally forgot lol

[exotic forge]

fool, that's shadow damage

you know as a warrior we can't have anything that penetrates armor

no no lass

You will heroic strike and you will build that armor pen

[green wharf]

i just want the effect

execute people above 80%

[lavish quest]

Why? They would just make it do even less damage

[bronze sleet]

Anyone else having less fun with fury in pre patch

[copper fox]

Yea everyone stop playing fury it’s going to suck

Stop immediately

[green wharf]

to apply deep wounds

[lavish quest]

I hear we're all rets now

[lavish quest]

Thought you hated bleeds susge

[solemn elm]

every one is unholy dk and ret rn

[exotic forge]

Ret is trash

lmao

[lavish quest]

I like the sound of the UH changes, maybe worth it

[green wharf]

i do

[exotic forge]

Good point

adding Condemn back would mean Execute getting nerfed

[dusky parrot]

okay ive gone 5-0 in duels vs bm, feral and devourer dh with the same level gear as colossus arms

this shit is actually cooking

def stance talent and ignore pain with second wind healing is the craziest self sustain

you'll drag the fight out so long with your sustain that you can end it with demolish

[copper fox]

Nice you got about a month of that existing enjoy being the pre-patch champion

[pale crow]

Is the pacing the same at max lvl than in pre patch?

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[pale crow]

Damage overall feels extremely slow

Gives me bfa vibes in a very bad way

[fierce elm]

no wy

damage feels slow?

when we are not max level

withotu any gear?

crazy

Trust me, we said the samet hing going into TWW pre-patch

[pale crow]

that's why im asking if its the same at max level in beta

Man

[exotic forge]

Be grateful this isn't BfA right after Legion

[fierce elm]

lmao

[exotic forge]

that shit was awful

[fierce elm]

besides

slow might be good for once

since TWW was fucking WILD damage wise

[pale crow]

i mean... to each his own, but hitting a 20k crit tops on a dude that has 200k hp with our suposed main damage button

Feels extremely bad

[dusky parrot]

is this a prepatch baby moment

[pale crow]

that's why im asking to the people that is playing beta if at max level on beta the pacing is the same or it gets faster

Not complaining

Just asking

[fierce elm]

The damage looks fine wise on beta

[exotic forge]

@fierce elm

[fierce elm]

and testing stuff has been impossible

However, you need to stop looking at numbers

and look at how specs feel instead

which is what Prepatch is all about

Not just you in particular, but like this channel as a whole

[exotic forge]

If you're worried about warrior being bad at 90, it's not

[fierce elm]

right now it is about how specs feel rather than the numbers

The numbers can ALWAYS be adjusted but the chance of us getting any sort of rework in terms of gameplay is very low

Testing stuff has been hard due to the PvP trinket being extremely bugged during beta-testing

[pale crow]

No, im not worried about it being bad, because ill be playing arms anyways, even if it is in the garbage can

[fierce elm]

There are also specs that just blow othe specs up right now, because stuff is overtuned, some stuff is undertuned, some gain major damage from tier sets, apex talents, etc etc etc

[dusky parrot]

I think people complain- including me because they see the prepatch class reworks as "whats to come"

[pale crow]

Been playing the spec for 20 years, ive seen it all

[fierce elm]

Anyways, TWW has been wild in damage

and frankly, the meta of one-shots and losing 80% of your HP through defensive CDs should not be a thing

Looking at you Arcane Mage pre-nerf, MM/BM/Survival as a whole, Fire Mage etc etc

[pale crow]

do you remember shadowlands season 1?

Hahah

[fierce elm]

yes

It might be good for the game to actually slow down a bit and not be ADD

[pale crow]

we'll see in a month i guess

tyvm for the answers 😄

[green wharf]

less sweaty game

for sure

[fierce elm]

I cant wait to aids people up with UHDK thouigh

[exotic forge]

Be grateful this isn't WoD Arms warrior

[lavish quest]

Can't wait to aids you up

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[ebon steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

[fierce elm]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-hmm-glare-gif-16222799

[worldly oriole]

Blissard should've released the leveling

but therez a week pre season right

[scarlet trout]

Hes been playing warrior as long as ive been alive

fossilized remains in the chat

did you remember your medicine and aerobics today grandfather

[copper fox]

Listen

Brewmaster

[scarlet trout]

Someone informed me of the real reason why kennie plays tank

Its because he doesnt want to compete with actual players for the pvp title

I feel so disillusioned

[green wharf]

more than that no

arent you like

16

[scarlet trout]

no

I’m 20

[rancid granite]

you're basically 10 to everyone here

can't tell a difference cause 20 is just a lil baby still

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-pat-on-the-head-good-job-gif-9037391

[copper fox]

What if I told you there’s other R1s who push prot

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[worldly oriole]

Fuark I shoulda got a computer instead of ps5 lol

[solemn elm]

def

prebuilt

but if youre happier with that and think you can get more gaming out of it in a more casual way then thats fire too

[scarlet trout]

dudes i think that pile of bones just moved

[shy herald]

Anyone got a PvP talent build for Arms in prepatch?

[green wharf]

if you scroll a few messages a lot of people posted their buids

[rugged temple]

how's the scaling in PVP

[green wharf]

wonky

[solemn elm]

hey friends be sure to get s arena reloaded and minicc so you can play the game

[green wharf]

whats that

[boreal veldt]

whats an addon

[exotic forge]

PREPATCH BABY

also, based on my testing around this, you could potentially have CSmash up every 20-25 sec

assuming you get a lot of HS procs, which happens very often

[solemn elm]

attack a player and see if you still hit for 200k

[exotic forge]

I did

[lavish quest]

Because he's a furry

[lavish quest]

Tbf, 20 is a lil baby still cause yall mature dreadfully slow these days

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/hvSz3sNEm10

@fierce elm

[dusky parrot]

heroic strike still costs rage right

[hot solstice]

btw udk have 18% ms now

cause u can and should swap to apocalypse weapon rune

[exotic forge]

same rage cost as Slam

[urban skiff]

Senseis resource bar is amazing

[fallen estuary]

[urban skiff]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/senseiclassresourcebar

changed my life, and i've only had it for minutes

[green wharf]

Which can be lowered with the talent

[exotic forge]

Why would you tho

[dusky parrot]

well if anger management says 20 rages reduces csmash by 1 second

then techinically it reduces csmash by 3 seconds

[exotic forge]

yes

[dusky parrot]

dope

[green wharf]

why not

[exotic forge]

no like, why would you need it

if anything you're making it not work with AM

[green wharf]

AM doesnt care about how much rage you used

afaik

it changed to be just skill used

oh well, it was another skill i was confusing with it AM is the same meme

[exotic forge]

I'd have to test it

[green wharf]

i was prob confusing with tactician

[fallen estuary]

am i smoking crack or did they bring back sweeping strikes?

ive been playing mop for a while now

and i cant rlly remember if they added it back or it was here already

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm after limited testing I can honestly say, nothing at all has changed for me

with the addon changes

My only issue at all was resolved by a maelstrom weapon tracker

[solemn elm]

sweeping strikes been in the game for a minute xD

dont think it ever went away ngl

[green anchor]

unshaken by the addon changes myself

never used weak auras

blizz ui is good so far just needs more work

and their dmg meter too

[fallen estuary]

oh my god im turning into a retribution paladin

[lavish quest]

Yeah this is what I yoinked. It looks pretty good. I lot I got to bolt onto it over time, but solid

Also depression that Opie is either dead or just not updated

But looks dead

PepeHands

[urban skiff]

I've used luxthos as a base for almost all my UI elements always

is shadowpriest tuned well or what

[lavish quest]

I did for the class weak auras

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff I MIGHT NEED A TEACHER ASSISTANCE

[urban skiff]

Whah

You ok bro?

[fierce elm]

They just threw CAD at us as our final thing to turn in lmfao

We haven't done a single thing in CAD

[urban skiff]

What are you doing in it?

[fierce elm]

but now I gotta draw out a schematic for my drill that is now functioning entirely along the parameters

PLC connections mainly

[urban skiff]

Is there an example of what they want?

[copper fox]

CAD

[fierce elm]

CAD

[green anchor]

CAD

[fierce elm]

It is what MUD pays his bills in

[bright kraken]

does anyone here play classic

[wheat jay]

No

[fierce elm]

yes

[bright kraken]

is it worth rolling a toon on there

[fierce elm]

Jk I don't get fucked nooob

[bright kraken]

friend tells me rumours mop characters will be moved to retail

glorious tyranny angle?

[fierce elm]

Classic is for geriatic human beings that can't function without 24/7 caretakers

[fierce elm]

yeah no lmfao

He is trying to get you into a dead game

[bright kraken]

she doesnt even play classic 😭

[fierce elm]

where the PvP plays at legit like 0.2x speed

LMFAO

Plkay classic because you want to play it

but it aint good

[bright kraken]

do you think its worth just in case?

[fierce elm]

no lmfao

[green anchor]

MoP pvp pace is good

[fierce elm]

Yeah if you enjoy watching paint dry

[wheat jay]

There have been apparently questionaires sent to ppl on their mail

And it was among questions

[fierce elm]

'apparently'

Yeah

I know

[wheat jay]

Ye

Reddit source

[fierce elm]

My statement remains the same

[wheat jay]

10% chance of being real

But then again

Such things were sent before first classic announvement

[copper fox]

Nothing is xferring over

And if it does, it’ll then be obtainable again for all

If you think blizzard doesn’t intentionally troll with their questionnaires. You’re their target audience

They have everything mapped out already

[fierce elm]

Yeah

My statement remains the same

[copper fox]

Then give us the illusion of choice / having a voice

[fierce elm]

Hey guys I heard from a friend of a friend that they were making WoW 2!!!

[copper fox]

Yea

[green wharf]

there was a survey about it, but we dont know if it will happen or not

[fierce elm]

My work once gave us a survey and asked us how to improve the place, nothing changed

[green wharf]

they do be like that

[rancid granite]

bet you felt good about taking it though

[fierce elm]

I did not

because I left it blank

lmfao

[green wharf]

thats why nothing changed

[fierce elm]

I aint doing no fucking surveys for my workplace get the fuck out of here

[green wharf]

fucking afro

[fierce elm]

Pay me more

thats how you improve morale

[rancid granite]

lmaooo

'i didn't fill out a survey and nothing changed'

[fierce elm]

It was company wide

so I expected SOMETHING to happen

aint nothing happened

I bet they paid a consulting firm a pretty penny for it lmfao

[wheat jay]

Afro why you being a dick, there is apparently a survey, we cant rule that thing out, simply because classic wow was also spoiled by surveys

[fierce elm]

lmao

[wheat jay]

Will it happen, fucknows

[fierce elm]

Im not being a dick

[wheat jay]

You kinda re

[green wharf]

"sorry guys, we needed everyone to say something to change, but that one guy didnt, so we cant do it anymore"

[fierce elm]

Hello

Mute me bitchass

I aint being a dick

[wheat jay]

You gotta change the r to d

[fierce elm]

A survey can mean soemthing or it won't mean anything

[green wharf]

(Reformed)

[fierce elm]

I aint reformed

[wheat jay]

Deformed

[fierce elm]

I am a League player now

Anyways, they wouldn't implement exclusives to a gamemode that is LIMITED

the thing I can see them doing is joining them together and leaving classic rewards entirely open for everyone to grab

but that would also cause issue with the classic community

It is a fucky wucky path to walk on both sides

Especially since they have been adamant that Retail is not getting certain things because they are deemed 'exclusive'

@scarlet trout why are you there acting like you are ognna get this BROTHER

[green wharf]

it would not be the first time bliz went back to a decision, so im not just rulling out yet

it would be pretty shit, since they did not said anything to be fair

but who knows

[fierce elm]

Yeah, but if they do that then they are just gonna let us earn it whenever in that case

is my educated guess

[green anchor]

hell yeah

gonna buy that glorious tyranny for 100 gold and pretend i got it in 2013

[green wharf]

if they had told us prio, i would for sure try to get the black protodrake from wrath

that they just removed cause they gave two other uglier ones

[lavish quest]

Damn, khailby got a stalker now

[lyric violet]

man my ui is just dreadful now

i have no idea how to even make it like it was

[fierce elm]

Because you probably can't

[rancid granite]

i just want borders around nameplates and their class on it

cant even see combo points rn

well betterblizzplates kinda works anyway

[urban skiff]

iirc you can put combo points on personal resource display and do some magic that puts it on your target nameplate

[rancid granite]

yeah i think so but if blizz plates is working good enough then ill be ok for now lol

[lyric violet]

i had to install plater

i realized it wasnt showing mortal wounds lmao

on default

[jovial torrent]

im really not sure whats actually possible, cus ive seen ppl on beta arena with enemy buffs showing on the left, but i guess we cant know their cooldown, but if u can see the buff on their hp bar surely someone can coed a way to make it then start a cd timer thing

[lyric violet]

kinda hate 50% debuff and 25% debuff also have same icon now

[jovial torrent]

like u can see the enemy dh has blur up

[ashen crypt]

what are we going for arenas? fury or arms? was in a bg and 1 UH dk killed 3 of us warrs in a go, damn they are hitting hard on this prepatch

[jovial torrent]

not bothering with prepatch till that pve event starts, some classes are good without apex others are not

[fierce elm]

Bigdebuffs also has a version out

called MiniCC

that helps a little bit

Idk, I saw mostly everything I needed

I don't think you are gonna track Mortal Wounds on an enemy tbh

because at that point you aren't just hitting your spells

[grand scaffold]

i track it

its quite useful

if you keep mortal wounds on all 3 people the whole game its so much harder to heal

[fierce elm]

Aren't you Fury

Or are you arms now lmao

I just don't think tracking Mortal Wounds will make a huge difference on the bars

I think there are some major things missing in the CD tracker thing though

[lyric violet]

i cant find on curse

[lyric violet]

yea i realized they dont change the icon anymore for 50%

so you're right

like it doesnt have the sharpened blade icon

[fierce elm]

Oh its only CC

[fierce elm]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/minicc

anyways

if you want to see CC on party frames

[scarlet trout]

I got it in a week in tww

Idk man

[vital quarry]

anyone know how to add specific spells in platynator?

[scarlet barn]

Are you

[fierce elm]

no

Im UHDK

[copper fox]

This explains a lot

[lavish quest]

Report him, getting midnight sets in tww

Hackzarz

[lavish quest]

But is it cooking tho?

[fierce elm]

I fuck with it

I like the million of ghouls

[scarlet barn]

My my

[green wharf]

then unholy gets giga nerfed before s1

and afro goes ret again

[fierce elm]

naaa

[copper fox]

Yep

[fierce elm]

This shit is a blast

[copper fox]

Same thing happened in s1 tww

[fierce elm]

Fuck the wounds gameplay

I WAS RET

[copper fox]

Nope

[fierce elm]

I WAS RET

[copper fox]

Nope

[fierce elm]

Stop rewriting history you Brewmaster reroller

[copper fox]

Nope

[fierce elm]

Gonna fotm whatever spec is the best spec

I am ready for it

[copper fox]

Ofc you are

[fierce elm]

I did have TSG being shit

so either UHDK is shit or Warrior is shit

[scarlet barn]

I liked Afro's ret arc

[copper fox]

Tsg will be bis

[fierce elm]

I am on the Ghoul-arc rn

[scarlet barn]

In m+ yelling at each other with karg

[lavish quest]

I think it's time for me to embrace the fotm reroll lifestyle

[scarlet barn]

Kek

[fierce elm]

Weirdest part is not going to play Ret in PvE

Meaning, I literally have to learn how to play the game

[lavish quest]

What we rolling @fierce elm @wheat jay ? What's fotm?

[fierce elm]

because you can't just divine storm as UHDK

[fierce elm]

UHDK

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

brother diff game is fotm

[lavish quest]

Bruthur, that's a year+ ago shit

Get with the times

[green wharf]

i hate these quests

[lavish quest]

Just get an auto turn in addon, and mindlessly follow objectives as you watch yt

Ez

[scarlet barn]

Thats why you do them during first levelling

Easier life

[green wharf]

i did the ones that matter

just doing those for the cool mount

[lyric violet]

huge help thank you

sarena reloaded works also

and i got plater now instead of threat plates but i miss threat plates ngl

is there anyone that shows like when a healer uses an external on me and the duration of it?

like if i got bopped for 10 seconds or w/e

[urban skiff]

I'm a massive fan of the DialogueUI addon, gives you keybinds for different choices in dialogue and also pressing space will take you through the highest priory quest same as an auto turn in addon

[urban skiff]

looks like blizzard missed a few items with the squish

silk wizard hat is amazing

[green anchor]

sane price

[fierce elm]

I need that

[green wharf]

must be why we getting a reset every day now

[urban skiff]

kthuman demon hunter when

[wheat jay]

gamer

[rancid granite]

where's the chain-kini

[copper fox]

Is pre patch over yet

[green anchor]

sadly not

[ebon steeple]

Taking this time to learn new classes and gold make

[trail palm]

Anyone happen to find a way to track hamstring on the nameplate of a target? Apparently Blizzard's "updated" nameplates won't track it on the nameplate itself, and I can't find a way on platynator to do so, either. I think plater might do the trick, but I'm running into a whole load of errors trying to run it (half the time, debuffs won't track at all on the nameplate of the target).

[vital quarry]

You can do it with platynator

[copper fox]

Traitor

[trail palm]

Is there a setting I have to flag? I didn't see it on the nameplate when I tested this morning.

[vital quarry]

You uncross ”important” on the debuff section. You will track every debuff now, but not really an issue as warrior

[vital quarry]

^

You get slaughterhouse etc as fury which is nice

[hasty pulsar]

this new fury cheat death ability is wild

so sick of fighting into it already

like just die already jfc

[urban skiff]

why is this just straight up messing with my head?

Use shadowdance during blades but use blades during shadowdance

And the alternating language, "is ready" but also "is up" but also "during"

[slow brook]

anyone who knows any addon that change damage font? use to run with FDC but doesnt work anymore

[urban skiff]

what the hey

[fierce elm]

what the helly

[green anchor]

what the huh

[wheat jay]

what the hmm

[green wharf]

[spice hornet]

Just rogue thingz

Rogue class dev works overtime to ensure rogue has the most subtle OP interactions

[wet pike]

So does this mean sub rogue plays haste now or is this scaling so low it's cosmetic?

unsure if they mean 150% as in 20% haste becomes 3 seconds, or 0.3? Can hardly be 30 seconds like the wording implies, right?

[urban skiff]

they do in pve, but only sort of

They want to get as close to the haste breakpoint as possible

[urban skiff]

That's absolutely minimal haste, my rogue in pvp gear is entirely mastery / vers stacked, and it still gains 0.11 seconds

I figure it's haste% x 1.5 x shadow dance duration

[wet pike]

oh yeah that's fair

[urban skiff]

I want a 3rd of these or I won't feel happy

let me make my own

[wet pike]

In TLT, surely

[ebon steeple]

Can a man not have alts

[robust hearth]

warrioris so ass

[rancid granite]

yeah I think we go like 20-30% haste now or somethin it's a lot diff

[robust hearth]

sum1 tag magnus

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-ragnarok-kratos-kratos-no-nope-gif-27160145

[prime solar]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/nicedamage-reloaded Looks like this works

[worldly oriole]

im ready

to game

[lavish quest]

@scarlet trout CE check?

Never checked when season ended

[scarlet trout]

nop

Ce this szn maybe unless blood poopoo

might level vdh

cant believe velf metamorph is red not blue

[lavish quest]

Just ascend to prot war

[robust hearth]

GO GET UR BOWTIE @sharp meteor

https://www.wowhead.com/news/crimson-bow-tie-from-pringles-xbox-promotion-now-available-380042?utm_source=discord-webhook

[sharp meteor]

Cute

[lavish quest]

EU only unless you got connections

susge

[fierce elm]

Hey guys

[lavish quest]

Afro, DM me a code.

:)

[fierce elm]

I gotta get my own code

gotta get this bow tie

I think its one code per email

shieeet

Though, I didn't have to verify my country

goddamn I just got a BOWTIE

[copper fox]

DM

[lavish quest]

Yeah, Afro gotta be the PvP chat supplier

[sharp meteor]

[fierce elm]

stop DMing me your feet

[lavish quest]

Then what will you take?

[fierce elm]

four gold in goldshire

[lavish quest]

Gotchu. Making EU account and farming 4g

The kobolds shall pay

[worldly oriole]

lol the bowtie is UK only

[fierce elm]

EU too buddy

[worldly oriole]

same thing

[lavish quest]

Don't worry tony, we've got an in when we take Greenland

[hasty pulsar]

uhhhhh guys ive always played and enjoyed arms but im trying out fury and having a lot of fun what do i do

is this normal

[lavish quest]

Race change off of vulpera and enjoy fury

[hasty pulsar]

lol

I do have a troll warrior backup.. i feel like he would be a blast to play

[sharp meteor]

huh

fury has almost always been more fun

[hasty pulsar]

yeah damn

[sharp meteor]

also why dont u play all 3 specs

even when arms is better in pve fury is more fun

[hasty pulsar]

yeah i dunno always been a prot arms enjoyer

[lavish quest]

Everyone shits on us, but fury more fun

I like being a rabid chihuahua more than being a clunky ms presser

[sharp meteor]

arms pve is always so jank

feels like a pvp spec

its like u tell a rogue their class is a pvp class and theyre like wtf no its tuned to be good

but they dont stun anything

and dont stealth in pve

[hasty pulsar]

just surprising me how quickly i am finding fury fun and i seem to be doing more damage lol

[sharp meteor]

so ur not even a rogue

idk fury always more fun in pve imo both fine in pvp

[worldly oriole]

arms war sick in legion keys but just died at a certain point

100% crit ravager was sick

[rancid granite]

fury and deathwish and some of the new talets is pretty dang fun and addicting in pvp

[hasty pulsar]

deathwish u say...

do i try it...

[rancid granite]

otherwise kennie is pretty spot on

big brain for such a little thing

thats why if you go arms you go colossus to try to get the biggest dam

[worldly oriole]

do i go void elf

[rancid granite]

otherwise just go fury

[worldly oriole]

on a dache?

[hasty pulsar]

i sswear im seeing a lot more void elfs in pre patch now

people just loving void elf

and their teleport racial actually messes me up

I wonder if they can use that racial to get out of spear

i cant recall if they can or not

[urban skiff]

if anyone feels like twinking

honor gear requires level 70, not 80 to equip

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

twinking intensifies?

[sharp meteor]

I haven't twinked since mop when it died.

[urban skiff]

you're going to love this then

devourer weapon costs gold on the cartel chip vendor

if you done operation floodgate on a 12+ you can buy the mythic variant on an alt

[worldly oriole]

I had a 19 rogue with shadowfang and nat pagle gear in BC

had some escorts me on fishing quest iirc

[sharp meteor]

missing her (cata 70s)

[spice hornet]

@worldly oriole

[spice hornet]

cata 70 twinking was insane

[worldly oriole]

lol

[sharp meteor]

golden days

i still have my old 70 hunto

collecting dust

[worldly oriole]

some guy just dropped 97 kills in my Battlefield game

I had 26 lol

he was also like 4x my level

[green anchor]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

@spice hornet rate my UI

@fierce elm

[slow brook]

Ty!

[urban skiff]

do people like it when numbers look like this?

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpscare-kid-jumpscare-kid-heart-attack-gif-12535254628037896885

[urban skiff]

Do you like how well things line up?

it's like TIGHT

https://tenor.com/view/tight-cool-nice-awesome-fogell-gif-17098274

[scarlet trout]

Anyway

[spice hornet]

yes its clean

[scarlet trout]

Did u guys test out the new Pvp zone coming next season

They made an entire area just for world pvp

Like nazjatar but better

[urban skiff]

Did you try it yet?

[scarlet trout]

Yeah

[fickle forge]

How do you make your cds count down with a number now man

[scarlet trout]

Its interesting

I hope people play it

I enjoyed nzoth pvp in naz

[urban skiff]

this one I didn't make crooked on purpose, also almost no change from what i had before the addonocapocalypse

[fickle forge]

Thank you

Also

Remember that little health bar in the middle we had before?

How you get that

[urban skiff]

i think this, but has to be enabled in options maybe

[fickle forge]

Jesus Christ that's so nice

Woulda hated if that shit was gone

We can just uninstall every addon now no?

[urban skiff]

I pretty much have

they nerfed surging currents but it also looks like it's not nerfed and still gains stacks per target hit, so I'm super happy

[scarlet trout]

Did you like it

[urban skiff]

I haven't tried it

[fickle forge]

They made tab rebinder unplayable?

RIP

[urban skiff]

just have diff keyboard profiles

and change what tab does on your pvp profile

[sharp meteor]

one set of binds all content or ur trollin

[fickle forge]

Can you do that?

Like rebind options

[copper fox]

@urban skiff what’s enhance rotation like now

[urban skiff]

Stormstrike 2 stacks, crash, lash, voltaic, stormstrike 1 stack

Idk

[copper fox]

That’s complicated nvm

[urban skiff]

Also spend

Use my ui and go left to right

[copper fox]

Maybe midnight s1 is my enhance arc?

[hasty pulsar]

who tf thought giving dh two charges of blur was a good idea

wat in the world

[fickle forge]

?

So we blind now?

[urban skiff]

They give up 10% glide speed for it. You need to understand how much it costs!

[hasty pulsar]

wat u mean

[fickle forge]

We can't see a deathlog now?

[sharp meteor]

basically ya LMFAO

theyre like hey u get less info

[ebon steeple]

Traitor

[sharp meteor]

sry

weakauras are bad so

now u cant see anything

[green anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840072717062897695.webp

[fickle forge]

So we are literally fucking blind lmao

Nah this is an insane downgrade

[sharp meteor]

ya and im trying to remember what the upside is

"no weakauras" but like

idk if this was a good trade

LMFAO

[vital quarry]

I didn't use weakauras but I rather have that compare to what we got

[copper fox]

Fuck. Alright I’ll eat that one you got me lol

[sharp meteor]

weakauras was interesting becasue it was basically a platform on which you could build any addon

omnibar was like a scuffed weakaura for instance

[vital quarry]

Agree. I'm just liking buff/debuffs on nameplates more. So I just used Flyplatebuffs

now i feel blind like a bat

Platynator works somewhat good though

[rancid granite]

i was always too busy tunneling and zugging to look at my addons so this is technically a huge buff for me

going for R1 midnight s1

[vital quarry]

Godspeed

[sharp meteor]

so was everybody else

[fickle forge]

So no deathlogs

No CC taken/done

I can't even see how hard an ability hits

[worldly oriole]

addons are removed but the game has built in addons now lol

[vital quarry]

Yea but they are very lacking. Specially for PvP

[worldly oriole]

I basically got glad this season with just bigdebuff and sarena

[solemn elm]

hot dog water default ui

you ain’t get no gladiator shutcho

boy had 20+ wins for a while then decided to play double dh

[vital quarry]

And bigdebuff is still better than what we have now

[solemn elm]

all day

atleast you can tell what people were pressing

you can get this one addon called mini cc

it’s kind of like it

and then there’s also s arena reloaded which is back

make sure you grab that

[worldly oriole]

Lol basically glad 24/50

in dead game lol

I qued double dh because there's like 5 people to que with haha

[vital quarry]

this is nice, need to grab that one

[worldly oriole]

and i only tried for it for like 2 weeks

I didn't log in after I tanked in SS after being rank 18

[prime solar]

I use classic numbers for the crit text popping and shaking a bit

[vital quarry]

Platy kinda does the job. just wanna be able to remove and add certain spells

[worldly oriole]

Im contracting aids trying to go for pistol challenges in blops

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/yv9xXTGl4z

[dusky parrot]

DH sympathizing is crazy

[green wharf]

its just me or

[wheat jay]

Dodge chance gone

[green wharf]

rampage is doing poop damage

but the other abilities are pumping hard

[wheat jay]

Netherwalk as separate button gone

[green wharf]

BT is hitting HARD

[copper fox]

You problem

Wasn’t dead for anyone else who did LFG

Our resident surv hunter did a billion lfg games with diff ppl for glad

[rancid granite]

post your secret tech fury build aready

[green wharf]

thane galaxy brain fury build

do not steal

[rancid granite]

stole it already

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Wait is that the reason it feels it doesn't do shit now?

[hasty pulsar]

Wait they don’t dodge during blur anymore or what

[sharp meteor]

It was still giving dodge on alpha despite no longer mentioning dodge i nthe tooltip

remember not to trust hunters or dhs about how their class works

or rather take with grain of salt

[solemn elm]

just such a fat ass lie, i literally lfg to glad every single season and i get it so easily by just interacting with ppl

[hasty pulsar]

I swear I fought dh today and dude dodged all my shit

[solemn elm]

u would sit lfg for like 30 mins then q double dh or some hot dog water comp and tank

[sharp meteor]

Lemme go check now actually

[solemn elm]

x2 blur

attacking them is the worst thing you could do

devourer also has a talent to have like 50% more armor

now

basically going dh is terrible unless you have stuns

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, Blur still gives 80% dodge in pvp.

[hasty pulsar]

Wild ability

[sharp meteor]

As of a minute ago.

[hasty pulsar]

Absolutely wild they gave them two

[sharp meteor]

So don't mind the dumb 2k dh players who'll try to gaslight you about it.

[green wharf]

yeah good, fuck dhs

[hasty pulsar]

Honestly rather netherwalk come back

At least he not blasting me during tha

Is blur still 1 min cd

[green wharf]

i hope its 5m

cd

[wheat jay]

Read abilities

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Bug or?

[sharp meteor]

?

[hasty pulsar]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

Same bug as

it was in since

unchained

blur is just 80% omni dodge

[worldly oriole]

LOL it aint a lie

[wheat jay]

Was supposed to not dodge at all

Aren't you confusing the nether on use/

For 2s or so

[hasty pulsar]

Netherwalk is gone

[wheat jay]

Not entirely

Blur gives 2s unless they removed it in prepatch

[worldly oriole]

lfg is like tinder for the average man

zero matches haha

or grenades

think abou tit

[green wharf]

[hollow citrus]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamined-class-tuning-hotfixes-on-live-servers-unholy-dk-tuning-380069

[idle falcon]

finally

unholy was OP

[forest sinew]

rip Unholy

[solemn elm]

i promise you it is ill tell you again i LFG to glad every single season

u just dont network and try to orchestrate games either and expect it to all come to you you gotta make it happen aswell

sitting around and waiting for someone good to sign up and play is the equivalent of like you said finding a good match on tinder

just have to orchestrate with people who are good and not waste your time playing some troll shit and using a TBC weapon

[exotic forge]

@fierce elm PREPATCH BABY

[worldly oriole]

brah you said you lfg every season but you have 3 glads lol

there's a lot more than 3 seasons

and yes I said I've tried for like 2 weeks this season to really find people to play with

the game was dead kinda too when I quit in shadowland s1

I got 2600 on my glad push but then teammates stopped playing was hard to find people to go past 2600 with

dh boom and dh ret were supposedly good this season but you "have" to play with a pres? not many pres I found

game was dead bfa season 2 too. I had 2 demon hunters 2800 but impossible to find a healer for r1

[copper fox]

“I tried for 2 weeks this season to really find people”

Season was 19 months long

Gg

[worldly oriole]

lol

[copper fox]

You played yourself

[worldly oriole]

ik

I said I basically got glad

[green wharf]

me too

[faint hemlock]

I told the bank I basically paid off my mortgage and they were fine with that

[worldly oriole]

It doesn't matter what you think. i deff basically got glad

and i already have glad mounts so its not a big feat that's unattainable lol

[sharp meteor]

ya not a good quality as a warrior

gotta be healer to do this

or some niche spec like feral

[spice hornet]

Tony legit making excuses I LFG glad every season as a C tier class

[worldly oriole]

XD

[sharp meteor]

i duo q with my monk and hes like

you said you like warrior mage right

im like prob not with mw

and hes like naw itll be fine

and every game is mm bm and/or unholy

[faint hemlock]

anything to track CDs being popped on enemy nameplates rn?

I no longer have someone whispering sweet nothings into my ear about whats going on

[green wharf]

i LFG till 1992 on x3

this final of season was rough with so many MM

[lavish quest]

Tbf, LFG is awful

🙂

[sharp meteor]

pugging is what you do when you're down bodies from your usual regulars/guild

exclusively pugging is just self inflicted hell

[solemn elm]

i have 5 lol

[worldly oriole]

its fine

[solemn elm]

and all of them i have lfg’d for

endlessly

[worldly oriole]

im just stirring the pot

[solemn elm]

just gotta have patience

u got that again tho

[sharp meteor]

wish i wasnt in 3s purgatory of glad being too easy but r1 being too hard

[solemn elm]

just in the middle just 2800 2700 dude

[sharp meteor]

just no reason to q unless its super fun

[solemn elm]

yea basically

[sharp meteor]

cos can come back and get glad whenever but like

r1 is way too hard

[scarlet trout]

i caught tony in DK pvp chat today

[worldly oriole]

looking for a build

[scarlet trout]

yea

thats not warrior

[worldly oriole]

im a demon hunter main anyway

[spice hornet]

Yeah Tony doesn’t play warrior

[solemn elm]

have to find a insane team that always wants to play and play the meta comp in the moment otherwise climbing is impossible

playing bad shit

being a rogue is a good benefactor too to getting rank 1

[lavish quest]

Khailby doesn't play warrior either

[sharp meteor]

they dont play at all actually

[green wharf]

me last season

[solemn elm]

nobody plays warrior here

part of pugging is making friends

you play good and do good stuff good damage people will be like wow this guy is pretty decent let me add him to play again

:)

[rancid granite]

some people are not good at making friends

and most just want a carry

[sharp meteor]

yes we call those shufflers ^^

they have their own lil containment mode

[rancid granite]

you ever have that happen and you think you made a good friend then you have 1 bad game and they unfriend you?

the heartbreak is unreal

[sharp meteor]

no

lmao

[rancid granite]

count your blessings!

[green wharf]

i did

but also played DK and hunter

[lone stone]

So

[green wharf]

and a bit of warlock

these are always my mains

[lone stone]

Fury PvP

Does anybody have any insights ?

[sharp meteor]

everybody has 80% armor now dw about it just try diff stuff and hit dummies

stats prob same they always are

just fix ui

[lone stone]

I been experimenting and compared to the other people in the arenas and BGs im doing it looks like im blasting but yeah. Feels like im hitting like a wet noodle

[green wharf]

rampage is doing low damage

so im just goign thane and blasting with tclap and BT

[lone stone]

I feel like the entire class is doing low damage and auto attacks are doing way way way more

According to blizzard’s horrible new dps meter anyway

[sharp meteor]

walk into group as unholy do 5x more dmg than anybody else just randomly mashing buttons

nothing is real now just fix ui and read talents

[green wharf]

yeah

[lone stone]

Yeah. Not even capped yet. Basically doing leveling pvp right now

[green wharf]

we are low level basically still

we missing 10 levels

[lone stone]

Exactly

I just get a lil crazy about fury warr

I dont care what blizzard does to the game if fury feels good to play, im subbed

[green wharf]

for me, BT and RB is doing mad lad damage

and lightining strikes as well

im not even pressing execute

rampage is just when the others are on cd

[lone stone]

See im trying extremely hard to make slayer work as it stands

[green wharf]

[lone stone]

I played a BG as thane and spanked

[lone stone]

It was good last season lol

I prefer it

[solemn elm]

just prepatch can’t really take it serious

[green wharf]

auto attacks are pumping

its a weird direction

wonder hows gonna be on max lv

[sharp meteor]

why is autos doing dmg weird

it was weird that they didnt matter

[green wharf]

was it?

i never saw wow as a game where autos matter

maybe i started too late

[sharp meteor]

ya ur newish

autos being not an important part also leads to

uptime mattering less

as a result u charge bolt somebody and

shadowlands them

[green wharf]

im a cata boy

[exotic forge]

even during Cata, autos did some damage

but back in Wrath and before that autos felt significant cuz it'd proc stuff like Enrage or Deep Wounds

[green wharf]

gonna be weird to see how that will work now with all the mobility and sweat

people arent standing still to get hit bu auto attacks very often

[exotic forge]

It'll hardly feel any different tbh

So long as you connect at some point, they'll get hit by an auto attack + whatever ability you press

white swings should matter tho so this is a good change imo, but it doesn't feel too significant because we don't have anything that procs off of auto attacks

[solemn elm]

autos were awesome till like legion i feel i never noticed autos doing literally anything past that

other than auto attack for crusader strike or dh

i remember in wod your first auto would proc your mark of the bleeding hollow

so it was important

[exotic forge]

because they weren't tied to anything like a proc

I think the closest thing we had in Legion was strikes of opportunity

[solemn elm]

oh yea true

[exotic forge]

in wod you had stuff like, Rend giving your auto attacks some extra dmg

or the multistrike stat

[solemn elm]

multi strike ;-;

god that stat was terrible

i did not like that stat at all

[exotic forge]

it was only good for ww monks

[solemn elm]

and the Armor stat aswell

oh yes it was i remember

i think it was good for rogue too

[exotic forge]

you could have 55% multi strike and it'd proc most of the time

it was stupid lmao

[green wharf]

if say, you hit overpower and an autoattack at the same time i guess it is worthy

[exotic forge]

I'm surprised you don't notice how often that happens

[solemn elm]

just as long as you are on them inbetween your globals auto attacks are weaved in

it’s impossible to notice

[exotic forge]

tru

bruh remember when warriors used to grant 3% vers to the whole raid team?

[solemn elm]

remember when rallying cry wasn’t piss 10% in raid

[exotic forge]

Ah, here it is, improved Rend

wod was such a weird time to play arms

[solemn elm]

yes whirlwind as filler

truly fascinating

it became insanely fun though in hfc with the tier set and the class trinket, it just turned into what it is now colossus smash and ms resets

and apply rend

[exotic forge]

Execute hit like a damn truck though

[solemn elm]

bro they were like 20% ? dead instantly

i still think claws of shirvilah and gladiator stance were some of the coolest things ever

[green wharf]

i notice it happens now and then but rarely

[exotic forge]

exactly

[solemn elm]

the auto attacks for me last expac were just slayer strike that felt like an actual auto attack

[exotic forge]

Slayer's Strike is just a glorified Strikes of Opportunity

[solemn elm]

true

[scarlet trout]

@green wharf

ur jealous of my ability to transmog

[green wharf]

Im sure Artji would be

[solemn elm]

bro really said hi guys i just bought legion and made a demon hunter right now! level 106 in legion lookin ahh gear

[green wharf]

many such cases

[solemn elm]

teach him a thing or two i noticed you made kargath bladefist other day

[green wharf]

Khailby is against learning im afraid

[scarlet trout]

you guys are so weird

its a good mog

your mogs use 3 pieces from the same set

[sharp meteor]

cant raid cant pvp cant mog

useless

[scarlet trout]

?

the mog is good

objectively

[sharp meteor]

0.5/10

[scarlet trout]

kennie your death knight mog is a fullset

i lowkenuinely cannot tolerate your ragebait 2day

[sharp meteor]

pick somethin to be competent at

cant be useless at everything and have a generic meme of the week as a pfp

[scarlet trout]

kennie why dont you play a dps so you arent competing against zero people for title

see if you can still get it

[sharp meteor]

might as well be talking to a language module

[fierce elm]

DAMNIT UHDK : (

[green wharf]

i called

[fierce elm]

Eh, expected

They did state it wont Impact them in Midnight

[green wharf]

[scarlet trout]

Dont worry

I know you guys only say that because you think it owns me

But people in every mog chat like my mogs

You know whose mogs they dont even respond ti

[fierce elm]

Cool mog Khailby

[scarlet trout]

Syegfryeds

case in point

thanks

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

cant believe @fierce elm got dk nerfed in prepatch