pvp

[lavish quest]

The seasonal rewards are GGs tho

[sharp meteor]

elite set

[lavish quest]

Unless they fucked it up

[sharp meteor]

so if ur spec busto can go get like

2700 3s

[wheat jay]

Lmao you csn still get 1800 set?

[worldly oriole]

i wish we could do midnight quests now and level to max

[lavish quest]

Prob the rbg ones

[worldly oriole]

i wanna get like 4 toons to max level lol

or 5

[lavish quest]

Homie really just found another way to word "I wish midnight was out rn"

[jovial torrent]

theres like 6 of the first season midnight sets i want

i dunno if im guna level a load of chars quickly tho im probs guna grind materials hard again so i have gold for midnight crafting

then a few months in blast alts

[worldly oriole]

yeah smh

and if havoc is ass and i level him im gonna go into tilt

[jovial torrent]

blizz kind of f'd up with colours of elite sets, like i think the shaman set is pretty cool but normal pve mode is black red so no point leveling that char fast

[worldly oriole]

might be time to lo gout

[scarlet trout]

Tony logging out

No way

[worldly oriole]

i actually took like 3 months off the past 2 seasons

doing nothing goin to bed at 8

[spice hornet]

Tony Went 5 Years Without Technology

[worldly oriole]

just found out im supposed to play ssupport class on battlefield

[copper fox]

Tony will do anything but remain consistent

[green anchor]

variety guy

[prime solar]

Someone drop the hot arms talent code

[fierce elm]

no

go figure it out

[prime solar]

No

[fierce elm]

Then don't pick any talents

[prime solar]

I haven't. thats why I'm asking

[fierce elm]

Go

Test

It is prepatch, you don't need to be fully optimized out there

[prime solar]

No time. Generally test others builds

[fierce elm]

Everyone else is testing stuff

Plenty of time

would take a minute to use up all your talent points

[violet obsidian]

hey homies, can anyone help out with a fury build for BGs and maybe 3's?

[fierce elm]

holy fuck lmao

[prime solar]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[wheat jay]

hey can someone drop me some prot blitz builds for prepatch?

[prime solar]

we die on the hill of not sharing here. sorry.

[wheat jay]

oh

what

why lol

[violet obsidian]

yeah using the public resource is a big no no apparently - innocently asking is too much man

[wheat jay]

i dunno i asked about it during season and i got a build

sheesh

[prime solar]

for me, I prefer to trust those who enjoy figuring out builds. I just don't enjoy it. So I usually ask the dawgs when the game changes a lot.

but "do your own testing" seems to be todays theme.

[fierce elm]

It is always the theme

If you can bring a clear and good answer why being hyper optimized instead of testing stuff out in a prepatch event matters

It is a small moment in WoW where nothing matters and you can do w.e you want

Yet the question is ”Please dripfeed me a build less than a day into prepatch”

[prime solar]

No one asked for a optimized build. We asked to see others builds.

[fierce elm]

Show us your build

[sharp meteor]

yo mag arms or fury

[wheat jay]

i can't read, so i need picture of talent tree

[fierce elm]

You have clearly created a build, right?

[prime solar]

Collaboration is actually the best form of testing.

[sharp meteor]

yo mag haste or mastery

[fierce elm]

Aight so lets see your build then

[prime solar]

"yo check out what I'm trying"

[fierce elm]

Lets see it THEN

[violet obsidian]

what a weird morning "asking for help" lol good lord

[prime solar]

oh so you want me to share with you but when I ask you become a lockbox of secrets.

[wheat jay]

ye jokes aside afro is right lmao

[fierce elm]

This is asking to be dripfed information

[wheat jay]

its prepatch, nothing matters, your builds will suck cuz of different scaling, rating doesnt matter either

[violet obsidian]

i dont think anyone used those words or implied them bro

[prime solar]

holy crap dude. what hill are you trying to die on.

[fierce elm]

Alright so show me your build

[violet obsidian]

relax, we verbatim asked for help?

[fierce elm]

contribute to the community

[fierce elm]

Happily

[wheat jay]

you both implied it tbh

[fierce elm]

Anyways gotta go drive

Better have a build when I come back

[prime solar]

no one wants you to feed us. We want to see what others are working on. baseline - iterate - communicate.

[fierce elm]

Show us your build then

[violet obsidian]

my old build is null and void and youre just being difficult for some other reason lol

[fierce elm]

Show the discord what you are working on

[fierce elm]

Every build is

its prepatch

[prime solar]

I'm at work - hence why I'm in the discord asking around

[violet obsidian]

like are you good bro? whats going in life man

[wheat jay]

unless you present your build then you do ask to be fed a build

[fierce elm]

Put some talent points and showcase some discussion points

[prime solar]

No wow client at work....what tf is wrong with you lol

[wheat jay]

why does build matter to you now if you cant even play?

what?

[prime solar]

I can put it into wowhead and look at it?

Why are we acting like this?

[wheat jay]

you can make your own build on wowhead too tho

[prime solar]

We're supposed to be a community that shares information with one another.

[wheat jay]

and i dunno, share it with ppl

yes, and you asked for ready build in prepatch, on the day it launched

[violet obsidian]

well since hero talents are kinda changing a ton of how to approach. maybe MAYBE people thought others who have a largert PVP influecne would have some knowledge to share. not a whole build but something to think about. like than thunderclaps doing damage past armour

[wheat jay]

noone knows anything yet

[violet obsidian]

stuff like that

not like pure vinegar in the morning

[wheat jay]

its not pve, youre not gonna get a ready simulated build

[prime solar]

Never said ready. I asked for a 'hot build' which is a empty word and just the way I talk.

[wheat jay]

sure, no hot builds yet, everything is cold ppl are still cooking

[prime solar]

then give me a cold one, tf?

[violet obsidian]

like am i tripping? lol

[prime solar]

I'll put it in the oven

[wheat jay]

you at work, you dont have an oven

[prime solar]

you aren't dude. this is weird behavior. I've never had any strange pushback in my 2 years on here

[wheat jay]

anyway, to summarize

no builds yet

we'll have builds when the season starts

and people find good working builds

[urban skiff]

Hey guys, can someone help me with a SMF THANE build for RBGs (not blitz) plz?

[wheat jay]

most likely when they get full set

[urban skiff]

And also skirmish

[warm plinth]

cant believe they timegated the prepatch though, thats wild

[wheat jay]

as before that buiilds can change

and will most likely change many times

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[urban skiff]

@novel crater did you get it yet?

[violet obsidian]

may i suggest a few people maybe come together to slap out a build or 2 to pin to avoid anymore bs? ill gladly contribute what i can if it ends the weird vibes

[wheat jay]

why would you pin a work in progress build?

[worldly oriole]

Those people just like telling others to Google it @violet obsidian

[wheat jay]

nah legit

[violet obsidian]

sadly, theres no pvp build on google for fury, which is why I came here....

murlock isnt up to date, neither are questionable resources like icy veins

[wheat jay]

fucking hell, copy methyltren or santi i dunno

[violet obsidian]

so again, i offer to help to mitigate the bs

[urban skiff]

Bro, i gotchu. Give me a hot minute or 20 cold minutes

[wheat jay]

zercher boutta cook the most unholy shit on the planet XD

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjZMzmZMzYmZMzYGzYmlZmxYmZZMzMAAQYgNAjGGQmFMsAYGmxAgZGADzMDMA

I resemble your insult

[violet obsidian]

dm me and we can make something and share it so these knuckleheads can chill

[wheat jay]

zercher, is this enhancement build?

[urban skiff]

Not an enchancement

[wheat jay]

your smf thane (enhancement)

?

[urban skiff]

No

[fierce elm]

”Knuckleheads”

[sharp meteor]

30 sec zerker roar also is a slow removal

[urban skiff]

This is literally a fury thane build

[wheat jay]

an actual fury warrior build?

[sharp meteor]

can leapand draogn charge again

my spec is so good omfg

[urban skiff]

link it

[fierce elm]

I am gonna walk into the nearest community, shout at them to give me their best advice, then leave

[urban skiff]

I'm dying to play prot pvp again

[sharp meteor]

prot warr

[fierce elm]

Like fuck me

[sharp meteor]

wtf

[urban skiff]

what?

[fierce elm]

I have no idea how any streamers remain sane

[wheat jay]

start a somalian healthcare

[urban skiff]

maybe if you buy me salmon first

[fierce elm]

”Hey beta build”

”We should collab as a community”

then PROVIDES NOTHING

[urban skiff]

@violet obsidian CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjZMzmZMzYmZMzYGzYmlZmxYmZZMzMAAQYgNAjGGQmFMsAYGmxAgZGADzMDMA

try this

i need feedback but it's my starting point for thane

[prime solar]

https://tenor.com/view/relax-children-chef-south-park-calm-down-children-chill-out-gif-22243799

[urban skiff]

Bro you're galachadding right now, imma need you to vesa before you kennie

[fierce elm]

Im losing my mind

[urban skiff]

better mind than nuts

I'm one accident away from no nuts

Think about that

[fierce elm]

What

Oh yeah

[urban skiff]

i already spent a life

[fierce elm]

you are

[wheat jay]

wtf

[violet obsidian]

@urban skiff hey thanks, so they made second wind super strong and theres no spear on here, which was strong. Did you drop this because of all the new bleeds?

[prime solar]

I'm fiddling with a blitz/spear build now on wowhead

[violet obsidian]

ive noticed all the new bleeds are a ton of extra pressure so far from my own tests, spear i could take or leave

[wheat jay]

you aint getting asnwers from zercher cuz man's muted

lmao

well i guess telling people to use their brains is too much

rip afro and zercher

[sharp meteor]

i like how every class cord has like 1 1600 player with a fent pipe who posts enough that people think they arent genuinely terrible and clueless

[wheat jay]

you were not the smartest but you were also stupid

[*]

[sharp meteor]

just the homeless dude outside a gas station screaming that crit enhancement is op in skirms

[lavish quest]

If you are asking for a build first week, and expecting a real answer, idk

[wheat jay]

is there any valkyr lurking now?

why did zercher who provided a build, and was helpful to those two get muted?

fun stuff

[lavish quest]

Not sure

It's not a time out, it's a muted role

[wheat jay]

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

@fierce elm @urban skiff rip bozo

[copper fox]

Hey guys does anyone have the new best fury spec

Can you send it to me please

[prime solar]

WIP spear/blitz build: CcEAmaXYRr39NNAQKu+E/lY36BzMzsMzMzYAAAAMMNMzMzYzMjZwYegZAAAAAMWMDIzMW2GYBMgZYCZmhNwgNziZYZmtBAAMjB

[solemn elm]

if you want to do battlegrounds just play mountain thane, but i have been trying both arms and fury and they do literally zero damage

was fighting some boomy demo that took straight up 0 damage the entire game

[wheat jay]

you gotta contribute first hello?

sheesh

ayyy zercher is back

[urban skiff]

You know there's faster ways to say you love me?

Afro is back too

[prime solar]

I was having huge rage generation issues last night

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/resurrection-gif-25119917

[urban skiff]

Legit jumpscare time

[solemn elm]

just fine for me i just do 0 damage

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm maybe now youll be useful to community ehhhh?

[violet obsidian]

I've been messing with something like this the past few bgs - CgEAmaXYRr39NNAQKu+E/lY36BAAAAAAgGDzMjZ2MjZGzMMzYGzMzsMzMGzMLj5BmBAACDsBY0wAysghFAzwMGAMzAMDjZgB

[urban skiff]

we too stupid to learn from our mistakes

[wheat jay]

reported

deported

back to mute

you got sentenced to brazil

[urban skiff]

RAPTORED

[wheat jay]

enjoy 3s with syeg

[urban skiff]

plz argentina isntead

[wheat jay]

no, you get germans there

it ahs to be punishment not reward

[urban skiff]

I can still play with syeg and we can go to the family farm grandma won't talk about

[copper fox]

Imagine playing prepatch and making any judgements based on current gameplay

[urban skiff]

(because she's dead, but also because that was a sus time period)

[copper fox]

Wild world we live in 47 xpacs later

[wheat jay]

dont speak so loud methyl

youll get mute role

[copper fox]

Sorry

[urban skiff]

prepatch is long enouigh that my judgments are based on what I want to do with the prepatch, not what I want to do in midnight

[prime solar]

doesn't seem like a judgement - just seems like feedback.

[copper fox]

You can’t give feedback based off of pre-patch damage

[wheat jay]

how you gonna give good feedback off of unbalanced content?

[copper fox]

Every single expansion that’s ever existed has been the same

[prime solar]

"currently my damage is low in BG's." just seems like an observation thats relevent right now, but maybe not later.

[wheat jay]

thats not supposed to be balanced either?

[lavish quest]

Zercher got unmuted?

Poggies

[wheat jay]

its prepatch

not a season

no rewards

no ladder

no reason to sweat

thus, its not relevant

[lavish quest]

Does anyone have a build for pushing Midnight S1 Glad? I'm gonna need one

[wheat jay]

why you sweating?

[prime solar]

why is riffing with other warriors in chat being scrutinized so much? dude was just chatting.

[copper fox]

Just play prot like 🦊

[rancid granite]

its so refreshing playing normal bg's and skirmishes just chillin and trying things out

[wheat jay]

cuz people generally recognize when feedback is stupid and not needed

[copper fox]

I don’t care what you guys talk about, but I put that general statement out so the people in here that don’t understand that you’re not giving feedback and just bantering can understand that whatever’s happening right now means nothing

Context is important in a discord where people ask for help all the time and try to understand classes in the game that’s all

You guys can continue talking about whatever you were talking about all good

lol

[prime solar]

I believe most reasonable people know that Methyl. but people are riffing. Art seems like he's rejecting any comment that doesn't line up with what is acceptable in this channel

[urban skiff]

what did you do?

i had to go get on the phone with jakey to fix this

[lavish quest]

Do nothing and stay winning

[wheat jay]

your comments about low damage in prepatch?

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

that is worthless feedback as its prepatch

[rancid granite]

prepatch is midnight beta

[prime solar]

I never once mentioned damage.

[wheat jay]

you have provided 0 feedback about talents or gameplay

[wheat jay]

^

[urban skiff]

Brother, I thought you worked in white collar job.

There is no bad feedback. There is fast-to-parse feedback

[wheat jay]

i believe its this

[wheat jay]

lmao

[prime solar]

brother those are quotation marks.

that means someone else said it.

[wheat jay]

anyway, jobs done in min, gotta dip

[copper fox]

You’re beta

AYOOO

[wheat jay]

and you shared it, whatever

[fierce elm]

WE BACK

[prime solar]

you really need to unwind.

[wheat jay]

no your not im reporting your ass

[rancid granite]

can we talk instead how weird it is to have avatar and bladestorm being on same node is though

[copper fox]

Someone ban @fierce elm fast he’s a fotm LOSER

[lavish quest]

It is rather curious to be the kind of person that needs a meta build day 1 of prepatch off season

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nollywood-cry-desespoir-black-boy-cry-black-kid-cry-gif-21448854

[wheat jay]

he's a ret player

[prime solar]

no one asked for a perfect build. because obv one doesn't exist.

[lavish quest]

Then why ask?

[copper fox]

I actually have the perfect build but I’m gatekeeping it

[urban skiff]

That's wrong. There's a perfect build, it's just not currently aligned with popular consensus

[prime solar]

Because I really like seeing other peoples ideas and testing them myself.

[urban skiff]

Can we circle back and storm some brains?

[lavish quest]

Are people even playing atm?

:)

[urban skiff]

I'm levelling a DH

[rancid granite]

yes but its hard

[lavish quest]

I didn't bother because I knew everything would be all fucked

[rancid granite]

because of all the addons and new ui

[urban skiff]

All the more reason to play right now

I found something that works for me on beta but i haven't exported it yet to retail and I can't remember what it was on beta

[prime solar]

it doesnt feel super fun to play right now. but that's usually rhe case on prepatch

[fierce elm]

How did I get muted

for what the wntire CHAT is saying rn

HELLO

[rancid granite]

prepatch is always fun af

[fierce elm]

what is this RACISM

[copper fox]

Because you’re a ret

[lavish quest]

Did you two piss off mud?

Or late?

Only valks that look in here every blue moon

Although... maybe you two were reported? :o

[prime solar]

I took no part in reporting.

[rancid granite]

Malus snitched

confirmed

[prime solar]

I prefer discussion vs talking to the principal

[lavish quest]

@fierce elm you actually had 2 messages deleted, not 1 lol

[fierce elm]

WHAT THE HELL

[lavish quest]

That paper plate line WAS TOO FAR SIR

[robust hearth]

Hi @lavish quest

[urban skiff]

did i have any removed?

[lavish quest]

Yes, 1

[urban skiff]

which?

[lavish quest]

Hi

[urban skiff]

I can't remember what i said

[robust hearth]

[lavish quest]

1/2 nuts

[robust hearth]

Did zercher get shitfaced last night?

[lavish quest]

[urban skiff]

Who reported? Imma go find them on reddit

[prime solar]

honestly you didn't seem to do anything wrong

[lavish quest]

Idk

[prime solar]

maybe they are a polar bear mod?

[lavish quest]

Mod log doesn't show mutes it seems

[robust hearth]

There's no mods here

Only @slim saffron

[urban skiff]

Maybe someone was reporting afro and fatfingered me (not fun way)

[lavish quest]

I am baby mod

Mod without power

[copper fox]

What even happened

lol

[robust hearth]

Sounds like zercher was drunk last night

[urban skiff]

Idk, I'm still trying to figure out what polar bears have to do with anything

[lavish quest]

Zerch and afro got muted and messages deleted

[rancid granite]

maybe they talked about how much they benched and mods got jealous

[prime solar]

You have a seal in your profile pic

[robust hearth]

Zerch and afro said mean things to eachother

@urban skiff @fierce elm plzzz kiss and make up

[urban skiff]

I have literally only ever said nice things to Afro, even when Afro was still upset over how funny I was when i started talking first

[robust hearth]

Apologize to eachother

[urban skiff]

I can ship this, but only if he was an engineer. This love is forbidden

[robust hearth]

We can settle this 2 ways, yall can either fuck or fight

[urban skiff]

Polar bears are just furries.

[robust hearth]

[urban skiff]

Ain't never been a furry seal

[idle falcon]

what about penguins

[urban skiff]

not as tasty as they're hot

[idle falcon]

[solemn elm]

fluffy seal is goat of the cold

can’t believe they’re real

[green wharf]

damn

what did i miss

brother cant sleep in the prepatch day

[flat crystal]

is it me or fueled by violence just looks better than ip?

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1qiy185/training_ground_bots_over_tuned/

compstomp apparently fun now

[hot solstice]

ye I got 100-0 by 1 rapid fire from mm bot who had 50k hp

[lavish quest]

Did anyone else have Afro pop into the DMs with "u up?"

[urban skiff]

No, he asked if I'm harder than heroic?

@fierce elm just be normal, man

[lavish quest]

Zercher was also sliding into my DMs to be clear

[urban skiff]

Couldn't help myself

[hasty pulsar]

does that new training grounds thing award honor or wat

can i spam it and get ton of honor

[fierce elm]

IM SO CONFUSED

[fierce elm]

This does sound kinda fun

[urban skiff]

can we get achievements in there though?

would be nice to finally have a way to get the cloud 9 achievement

[fierce elm]

I think its a good way to force people to learn though

Throw them against bots but make the bots be pretty busted

[urban skiff]

comments in the post suggests blizzard's stance is a 50% winrate, and they'll enforce it through tuning

[fierce elm]

Otherwise it becomes too easy and it has no learning experience

I fuck with this idea

Woops, I said a swear word don't want to get muted

[urban skiff]

I'm hot for the bot mode because it provides consistent enemies to test different things against

Like the feral druid will always be the same gear same playstyle every match, so I can actually measure how well something works

[fierce elm]

Anyways anyone have the invite to the DK discord so I can ask for a optimized day 0 build for Midnight

[urban skiff]

The acherus or partywaffle's?

i have both

[fierce elm]

Im not much for waffles thanks

[urban skiff]

I was going to send you a link to the skillcapped channel instead but realized that would mean i'd have to go through inviting you to something twice

[exotic forge]

Pick Reaping

[fierce elm]

I refuse to do what you tell me to do

It did feel nice to play though

[urban skiff]

quick, tell afro to play the most optimized build

he'll have to play like me forever then

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

Zercher, did you boost just so you weren't brown btw?

susge

[urban skiff]

No, I did it to raise the upload limit, so I didn't have to meticulously cut every recording down to sub 100mb just to post

[rancid granite]

no but his mom did

[fierce elm]

Is it time to start fucking with the Blizzard UI stuff

I saw that BigDebuffs was coming back

[urban skiff]

let me know if you want help, i know you struggle with these things

[fierce elm]

I dont want to do ANY of this shit man

lmao

[rancid granite]

just be glad blizz plates still works

[fierce elm]

I just need Arena frames and some Nameplate tracking

[urban skiff]

do you want an export code you can just import and be done with?

[fierce elm]

Not from you lmfao

I have seen your UI

I refuse that

That is a UI made for a sinner

[urban skiff]

Bro, I'm a fucking expert at UI crafting

[fierce elm]

I don't doubt that

[urban skiff]

Just so happens you've seen a UI designed for my wonky brain

Do you know how hard it is to make something that fits this mess? Like I said, I'm an expert

[hasty pulsar]

this new computer bg not bad they actually give honor

[rancid granite]

also just wait til skillcapped makes a new midnight UI

and copy that

gg

[urban skiff]

luxthos also making something that works

he has import codes + a list of addons that make UI easier to customize

[rancid granite]

who is that

[fierce elm]

I love Skillcapped

[rancid granite]

skillcapped is official im a fanboy

[fierce elm]

Bigmoran please fix this

[rancid granite]

anyone else isn't worth

[urban skiff]

or copy mine

[sharp meteor]

open logs of person wailing about how blizz killed the complexity of his spec so now anybody can play it, all single digit percentile parses

this patch owns

[urban skiff]

just a quick demo of visual and audio cues you can use

[fierce elm]

lmfao

Every single time classes get huge changes

it is so fucking funny

[rancid granite]

WW's and subs do not like the skill prunes at all i love it

makes the classes playable finally

[urban skiff]

tell him to open options and enable Hold To Cast, then enable Action Targeting, then put SBA on every button on his keyboard and just hold W and that any SBA key

[fierce elm]

Tbf Rogue does seem to be struggling with Energy Regen

[sharp meteor]

theres some warr on the forums spamming about how the class needs a lot more rotational depth and he's perma 1700

[fierce elm]

At least from my ten seconds of testing Outlaw

kek

[sharp meteor]

bro wants depth cant even handle mortal strike and overpower

[fierce elm]

He got more depth now

now he has to hit slam

[sharp meteor]

[rancid granite]

that was always outlaw you hit SS twice and you're out of energy that spec still weird

[fierce elm]

Idk

it felt fine

[lavish quest]

Your parses are gray because you are shit.
My parses are gray because I don't use consumes.
We are not the same.

[fierce elm]

but it felt STARVATION rn

[urban skiff]

i found picture of him

[urban skiff]

My parses are grey because I elect to do every single mechanic possible so I have an excuse to not dps

[sharp meteor]

crazy that this comic is older than some awc playes

[urban skiff]

What's crazy is that means I have characters that are older than them too

[fierce elm]

you definitely do

[urban skiff]

youngest AWC player?

who

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/a-child-vine-vines-only-thing-worse-than-a-rapist-child-gif-17395596

[fierce elm]

Uh

Brunhity?

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-sully-james-p-sullivan-scared-frightened-gif-1111972496385383101

[fierce elm]

Kalvish probably

[solemn elm]

kalvish most likely

[worldly oriole]

hello lads

its 12pm starting to feel better

[green anchor]

had lunch huh

[exotic forge]

Luxthos

[green wharf]

isnt those people just m+ people

[sharp meteor]

naw its all sorts rn

[green wharf]

like how they said colossus is just th gallaxy brain skill expression arms warrior

[sharp meteor]

green parser: im quitting cos blizz dumbed down my spec so noobs can play it

[green wharf]

"i like arms to be shit and complicated cause if i play i pretend it better than people playing fury/prot" or something

[sharp meteor]

i like the arms vs fury debate every season

overpower and ms more complex than rampage and raging blow

[green wharf]

muh skill expression

[exotic forge]

PREPATCH

BABY

[boreal veldt]

me just sending slams all prepatch as colossus

[fierce elm]

PREPATCH

[rancid granite]

so much bleed/bloodthirst talents for fury now so the debate is going to get extreme

[boreal veldt]

[rancid granite]

im only part memeing cause fury tree is confusing af

the answer is still demolish

[boreal veldt]

the answer is still demolish

[sharp meteor]

slayer>thane>>>colonerd

[green wharf]

they lowkey told hunters to touch grass

[sharp meteor]

wtf

[idle falcon]

LMAO

[boreal veldt]

lmaooooo

[green wharf]

well i will not get out of spite

[slim saffron]

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[robust hearth]

[robust hearth]

[idle falcon]

[exotic forge]

look at the roaches

roaching out

[sharp meteor]

omg hi

[robust hearth]

senpai noticed me

[idle falcon]

[fierce elm]

God, not the MODS

the COPS

[slim saffron]

[fierce elm]

Hey Archim give me a PvP build for Augmentation Evoker

[boreal veldt]

Afro just got out of mute jail too

[idle falcon]

archi when are you stepping down so i can take your job as theorycrafter

[fierce elm]

I am headed right back into it

Have you done any fucking about with the blizzard ui tools @urban skiff

Its time to get into it

[worldly oriole]

smh the knuckleheads are still going strong hours later in this chat...

[urban skiff]

I have. You were too slow, ill work more on them after kids sleep in 30 minutes

[fierce elm]

What addons WORK

All of them, opkay thanks

or do I just DELETE everything

[boreal veldt]

delete WoW

[idle falcon]

ok i understand Archi

[fierce elm]

Its perfect

[boreal veldt]

I'm still trying to figure out what in the UH DK kit does so much damage to me, is it just the sheer mass of minions?

[fierce elm]

probably

[boreal veldt]

woof

[fierce elm]

So I cant move

the fucking resource bar

or am I just DMMY THICK

[solemn elm]

just all the pets most likely

and apocalypse hits insanely hard too

[fierce elm]

But ya its the pets

[lavish quest]

Pvpers just missing Archi

[fierce elm]

Uh we don't have apoc now

[lavish quest]

He never comes by

[solemn elm]

oops wounds don’t exist anymore

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

Its just the wack pets

[boreal veldt]

we lay out cookies for him every patch day

[worldly oriole]

fuark i need a job to buy new pc

[hot solstice]

nah its only prepatch and lots of players on same layer

should be better 2 weeks into midnight

[worldly oriole]

if your talking to me, my computer is fucked. the graphics black screen haha

maybe it got damaged somehow or something when i didnt turn it on for awhile

there was probably a 2 year stretch i didnt even turn it on

[sharp meteor]

its what we call dk eveyr expac

before it gets its very deserved 25% nerf twice

[fierce elm]

Yeah

It seems to be doing absurd stuff lmao

[robust hearth]

yes, all the ghouls and theres a buncha ghoul amplifiers

[urban skiff]

Literall yno addon works if it hasn't gotten a specific tag that says it's updated for midnight

[urban skiff]

if you have TSM probably pause it, mine generated a shitton of errors in combat

[fierce elm]

Just gonna remove everything

[urban skiff]

I need advanced interface options to update, annoying to update cvars manually

[robust hearth]

wats a cvar

[urban skiff]

For UI, do you want the short version or the long version

[robust hearth]

[urban skiff]

console variables

[fierce elm]

cvar deez nuts

[robust hearth]

console D:

[urban skiff]

/run SetCVar("AutoPushSpellToActionBar", 0)

like this

[fierce elm]

Console D:eez nuts

[urban skiff]

will stop levelling up from putting buttons on your bars

@fierce elm go into gameplay enhancements

[fierce elm]

I already logged off

[fierce elm]

Set up the nameplates

thats all I needed

[urban skiff]

next go do this

[fierce elm]

IM OFFLINE

[green wharf]

right now the goal is to farm more gold, cause these transmog stuff was a kick in the gold wallet

[idle falcon]

just buy a token ftw

[urban skiff]

lmao

[solemn elm]

if ur buying tokens ur a clown it’s gotta be from g2g

[urban skiff]

fuck no

go watch your unit frames like a person

[green wharf]

nah

[solemn elm]

gotta watch the unit frames or look at what’s going on with your friend

or maybe they’ll like type in chat FEARED FEARED

who knows now you just have to guess

[green wharf]

i cant even buy tokens with real money

blizz doesnt allow on me country

[solemn elm]

#ban addons tho the pvp ladder is fucked now that there’s no addons!!!

[solemn elm]

can’t even tell what’s happening with these frames

[fierce elm]

Max size

[solemn elm]

only good thing is being able to see that your friend used liek iron bark

[fierce elm]

MAX SIZE

[solemn elm]

i can’t even see my friend sac’d me on the party frame

[rancid granite]

bro im gonna be so rich now that im not mogging 100x a day

[robust hearth]

working as intended

more gold= more wow token sales

[lavish quest]

Kinda the other way m8

[green wharf]

for those who only stick with one set for a long time is good

for those who change constantly is a problem, like tweak small pieces

[robust hearth]

xmog expensive? need more gold? buy more wow tokens

[rancid granite]

wait, can we still mog certain item pieces and not the slot edit: nevermind can just buy more mog slots same thing

[urban skiff]

imagine this ilvl right now

[robust hearth]

AS FURY WARRIORS

U CAN MOG UR 2H WEPS TO 1H WEPS NOW

dont forget

[urban skiff]

guys

hear me out, this would be the most hilarious oversight in the world

[cosmic apex]

Feel like warriors are immortal in 1v1s rn with second wind

[lavish quest]

Now is this an incredibly fitting name

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/e1Ic16O.png

man come on im just tryna farm wotlk rep

[fierce elm]

They did it on the timewalking vendor

for a lil bit

[green wharf]

Survival is so ass

worse than BM, which is like 2 buttons

[urban skiff]

why is a caverns of time portal keeper just hanging around in DF?

[green anchor]

keeping up the portal

looks like something left over from the anniversary event

[covert talon]

Fury pvp is a blast

[exotic forge]

Don't worry about it

Servers going down

for NA

[buoyant cypress]

Arms pvp time!

Can’t wait to not hit glad because my class is suboptimal every patch and never gets the 1 button 50mil crit

[urban skiff]

did they say why? Is it just a fix for the known issues?

[exotic forge]

Maintenance and bug fixes yeah

1 hour maintenance

also we're in Cata numbers right now

[hasty pulsar]

ngl bladestorm without unhinged is total ass for colossus

[green wharf]

they want to force that bladestorm = slayer

[hasty pulsar]

like should i be playinng ravager lol

[green wharf]

cause some m+ bints want "different builds"

[hasty pulsar]

oh wow i actually considered dropping bladestorm like that yea

thanks will use similar build

[green wharf]

its not optimal by any means im just going heavy on bleeds

[hasty pulsar]

are those talents below colossus smash just not worth it in ur opinion

i find them to be mostly weak as well just not sure the consensus

[exotic forge]

The smaller the numbers, the better imo

[green wharf]

didnt had time to test yet, but it seems meh

[fierce elm]

Bladestorm

The tactician one after Csmash is gonna be huge

because of Heroic strike apex talent

[exotic forge]

15 rage after Csmash is useless, we don't struggle with rage

[green wharf]

we do struggle with rage

[exotic forge]

SS after Csmash good tho

[green wharf]

quite alot

but right now without apex isnt worth

[hasty pulsar]

the ss one is interesting i will say that maybe good in bg's with lots of enemies and crap

[exotic forge]

good for melee cleaves

[hasty pulsar]

yah true

[green anchor]

@urban skiff what was your /played last time you posted it

[hasty pulsar]

ngl tho I feel like colossus is not great state imo

[exotic forge]

and imo the talent that makes MS proc Tactician guaranteed is not worth it

[hasty pulsar]

like demolish hits decently hard sort of

[urban skiff]

over 1 year for the druid

iirc

[hasty pulsar]

are rend and deep wounds even strong bleeds

feels like theyre weak

[green anchor]

oh right it's char specific

[exotic forge]

Rend is Rend

Deep Wounds is alright

not great, not terrible

better if you're playing colo tho

[green wharf]

they are on colossus

[hasty pulsar]

yeah just did a solo shuffle and an unholy dk went 6-0 and it felt like i hardly did any damage

dk had 2 mil vs me at like 700k at one point

dk need giga nerf

or others need buff

[urban skiff]

come on, bro

this is prepatch, stop talking about nerfs

[green wharf]

it will not be much different from max lv tbh

it never is

so they will tune when the expansion hits

[hasty pulsar]

just tellin it like it is

[green wharf]

right now yall are just beta testing

[exotic forge]

PREPATCH

BABY

Classes are tuned with max lvl and apex talents in mind btw

ofc everything feels like shit rn

boy have I got news for you

[fierce elm]

lmao

It is even more NOW

[exotic forge]

They gave it the demolock treatment and dialed it up to 11

anyway, here's an Arms Slayer build, gl and have fun

[rancid granite]

0/1 fatality

👎

0/1 champ spear

the new spear has a baked in leap to it too

[green wharf]

fatality is cringe

[rancid granite]

they made it BETTER too

[hasty pulsar]

it can proc from sudden death executes now

[fierce elm]

Javelineer is CRAZY

[green wharf]

its still shit

iy only deals real damage with 5 stacks

but you never wait

[hasty pulsar]

yeah i will say it does seem weak per stack a bit

[green wharf]

its like inexorable assault but less damage

[rancid granite]

at least with demo i get a ton of kills with execute burst so ill take any extra with it

[hasty pulsar]

I wish they kept that javelenir that applied hamstring when u storm bolted people

would of like them to keep that

[exotic forge]

5 extra yards on storm bolt

makes catching people easier

[hasty pulsar]

yeah our root break situation is awful

basically made gnome even more powerful just wild

[rancid granite]

and avatar

its baked into berserker shout and champ spear now?

[dim thunder]

How about warriors get a root break and we delete gnomes. Make everyone happy.

[rancid granite]

piercing howl being a lil speed boost is... cool too?

[hasty pulsar]

berserker shout just breaks slows

not actual root

[rancid granite]

oh

kek :l

[exotic forge]

Berserker Rage removes slows every 30 sec

[hasty pulsar]

it suk ass tbh

well it not awful

but i ened that root break

[dim thunder]

Wait spear breaks roots?

[rancid granite]

yeah a lot of the stuff seem cool/fun but can't tell if they'll get much use

[hasty pulsar]

oh the spear leap i havent test that

can u spear leap out of a root or am i misunderstanding

[rancid granite]

i dont think you can but it's another leap

[hasty pulsar]

yah true

[exotic forge]

You throw the spear and you can leap to where you threw the spear

[hasty pulsar]

na

[exotic forge]

Not that I know of, no

Spear also functions like druid's vortex

it still chains and tethers but if you miss it and someone walks through it, it pulls them

[hasty pulsar]

honestly im happy with the larger spear radius at least

[exotic forge]

HS hitting harder than MS lololol

[green wharf]

that is the intent...

its the apex talent after all

[rancid granite]

yeah i'd thought so too it's weird it shares a node

maybe it'll be fun in bg's

[exotic forge]

but like

take into account that there's the slam modifier in pvp

[green wharf]

i dont think they remember that

gonna go big numbers

[fallow birch]

and now time for the most spammed questions
arms vs fury for prepatch?
talents?

[sharp meteor]

yo mag haste or mastery

[fallow birch]

arms is the pvp spec in my head, do we have some hot talents?

[dim thunder]

Updated Second Wind and all the self healing is pretty nice.

[fierce elm]

yo mag haste or crit

[dim thunder]

Stance Mastery is great with defensive.

[hasty pulsar]

slam is hitting hard these days

slam hittin harder than an unbuffed ms i think

[hasty pulsar]

ya buffed second wind owns hard

[rancid granite]

we got an updated second wind?

[dim thunder]

Doubled the self healing.

[hasty pulsar]

yep its great below 35%

we are hard af to kill

[rancid granite]

dang right on

[hasty pulsar]

like actually feel it too

[dim thunder]

It’s funny in 1v1 if they don’t use a big finisher.

[rancid granite]

imagine warrior not being the worst 1v1 class that'd be the day

[hasty pulsar]

it heals min 2% per sec up to 4% lower u go

so like it can heal 4% per sec if u are about to die

if u play fury and haev that new cheat death too

i saw some people playing it

and it actually kinda annoying to kill into

[fierce elm]

It is higher than that

Counts for it

[hasty pulsar]

oh dang true

thats legit

[fierce elm]

So it would be 13% more to it

which isn't a whole lot

but it is something

[hasty pulsar]

field dressing actually a nice talent

[fierce elm]

Forced to take it too iirc

due to Talent points needed

[rancid granite]

ya

[exotic forge]

that's a talent i can live with

[green wharf]

also why you want rend as colossus

its basically s3 tier effect

[rancid granite]

demo/ms got me soooo many kills; add in a big execute many times after that

[idle falcon]

Holy thane pumps

[lavish quest]

Is there a talent that's makes demo do damage when it lands

[copper fox]

Priest got thane?

Midnight goes crazy

Yo mag should we buy trinkets first

[lavish quest]

Paladin got thane

Idiot... smh

[copper fox]

Oooo

[green wharf]

paladin became even more special needs spec

[rancid granite]

I FOLLOWED THAT ADVICE; STILL GOT ELITE OK

[green wharf]

ret have 3 damage buttons

[lavish quest]

So does your class

[fierce elm]

Now that is a lie

We have 4

It depends

it is still up in the air if we play Crusade strikes or not

[green wharf]

bake judgment into hammer of wrath was kino

like, they genuinely though ret players were this dumb

[fierce elm]

Just saying

we have the same amount of buttons

[green wharf]

cant bake rend into shit for warriors

but they do this

[fierce elm]

It is baked into a button

what do you mean

[green wharf]

into another separate button

[fierce elm]

lmao

"oh no my spec requires 5 buttons"

u rn

[hasty pulsar]

ok ngl just did a spear into the spear leap and its actually pretty fun when jumping people

they dont have a clue what hits them

[fierce elm]

Spear is gonna be so much fun tbh

[green wharf]

while others require 3

[fierce elm]

4

but again

I wouldnt expect you to know

[green wharf]

cope

[lavish quest]

Thinking ret is some unique simple spec is cope

[green wharf]

unique isnt

simple

[lavish quest]

They're all 1 button now

[green wharf]

it is

you can prob play BM and ret easy with a controller now

no joking

might even be better

[fierce elm]

We have the same amount of buttons

are you okay

[scarlet trout]

you guys were right about that flarkness guy

fwiw

[scarlet trout]

when did you get muted

KEKA

[lavish quest]

Right how

[scarlet trout]

you know how

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[green wharf]

🤷🏾‍♂️

[lavish quest]

Being a meme? Kek

Well, next topic

Khailby mute when?

[scarlet trout]

when i say racial slurs

[lavish quest]

You sent them to late

[scarlet trout]

yeah but they werent my racial slurs

[green anchor]

apparently you can equip old legendaries and trinkets and oneshot people in pvp

due to the scaling being scuffed

[exotic forge]

time to whip out Shadowmourne

[green anchor]

Shadowmourne + MoP cloak + some Legion trinkets

[exotic forge]

Servers up (for NA)

[lavish quest]

Is this a that's not our word kind of a deal

[worldly oriole]

hell yeah @green anchor

[green anchor]

do it

it's memeing time

[worldly oriole]

maybe i should do mage tower

and delve bosses

[fierce elm]

LM;FAO

every time when they do this

this happens

[obsidian oar]

looks like the summary ilvl doesn't update even tho the gear ilvl does when in pvp mode on a dummy at least?

[rancid granite]

man i was so annoyed seeing ret's new hero talent being even more hammer they go way too hard on the aesthetic

[grand scaffold]

It would be nice if Ret was actually a melee

[lavish quest]

Would be nice if warrior had ret range

[grand scaffold]

I think what would be cool is an axe thrower spec with a bleed that stacks

[rancid granite]

attack range increased by 3 yrs would go hard

[grand scaffold]

Like slaughterhouse that does dmg

I think it would probably be a cooler surv hunter

Then it can have some type of a finisher like the hunt

[copper fox]

Would be nice if

AYO NDOG

[grand scaffold]

Suo

[copper fox]

You get a title?

[grand scaffold]

Nope

[copper fox]

Bruh

[grand scaffold]

I got to 2898

[copper fox]

Tf

[grand scaffold]

Then

Terrible lobbies

[copper fox]

Not good dude

[grand scaffold]

Something like 2700

Did you get yours?

[copper fox]

Going to do better for galactic right

Yea I got blitz and ss

[grand scaffold]

Nice!

[grand scaffold]

Maybe depends when the season is gonna end

This year my unemployment ends probably

😂

Then I actually gotta go to uni

[copper fox]

That’s fine just gotta learn to live with sleep deprivation

[grand scaffold]

Lmfao

I used to be able to sleep on like 5 hrs of sleep

These days if it's even 7 I have a tough time

[scarlet trout]

velf kinda fucks

should i reroll it

[green anchor]

no

[grand scaffold]

Nah

[copper fox]

Last 4 days of the season I slept maybe 4 hours total

[scarlet trout]

its the velf expansion though

[worldly oriole]

should I race change to velf dh lol

[scarlet trout]

i feel like

[copper fox]

Took 1 hour naps

Between days

[scarlet trout]

to use a weird example

[grand scaffold]

Crazy

[scarlet trout]

i feel like a white guy shopping at the asian market

[copper fox]

Mainly because of blitz tho

[scarlet trout]

going in to midnight

its kinda insane

how if you arent velf or belf the expansion kinda fucks you over

[grand scaffold]

Wdym

[scarlet trout]

thematically

[copper fox]

Where’s this ss from?

You play on a cardboard box?

[grand scaffold]

Then if you aren't a paladin you are trolling

[scarlet trout]

Hunter

Death Knight

Priest

[grand scaffold]

Nah

Paladin or nothing

[scarlet trout]

ndogo wants to play ret and is coping

[scarlet trout]

i had to zoom in bro

[obsidian oar]

theres finger grease all over the screen

[grand scaffold]

Nah I don't play classes with a lot of team utility

[scarlet trout]

what do you want from me

[grand scaffold]

Mostly either rogue or warrior

But Ret has a cool theme compared to other classes

[scarlet trout]

fake

[grand scaffold]

Wdym

😂

Rogue the only class I've had high cr on besides warrior

Yo guys what's the best type of rowing that isn't a barbell

[worldly oriole]

lmfaoo he has Mac Donald Mac Chicken Grease On He's Screen @obsidian oar

[wheat jay]

wait why is afro deformed muted member?

wtf

[scarlet barn]

Because he is reformed muted member

[wheat jay]

mhmm

fair

[lavish quest]

He slid into my dm's

And probably an actual Valk's

[south night]

anyone got some arms pvp spec?

[exotic forge]

I gotchu

[south night]

thank you brother

[green anchor]

got UIs nearly set up for my warrior and healers

not being able to track hamstring is annoying

[rancid granite]

🫡 best 2 classes

monks pretty cool too tho

[dim thunder]

I got it in the cooldown manager buff/debuff tracker.

Same with rend.

[south night]

really? how?

[rancid granite]

how tf do you even see your own cc/dr

[radiant carbon]

What do you use for nameplates? Stock or plater? I normally use plater, but tonight it gave me a lot of LUA errors.

[dim thunder]

Enable cooldown manager. Under advanced settings, buffs tab. Drag and drop hamstring and rend into tracked bars https://www.wowhead.com/guide/ui/cooldown-manager-setup#screenshots:abc:2 @south night

[fierce elm]

wonder why lmao

almsot like 99% of Plater is just not a thing anymore

[radiant carbon]

In fact i tried also the stock nameplates.. but in bg I literally couldn't tell which were the enemies XD Both enemies and friendly ones had colored nameplates, if I disabled the friendly nameplates, I didn't even notice they were there. I don't know if there are settings I'm missing, or if it's just my problem.

[rancid granite]

i'm trying to figure that out too; i need blizz plates border colors

but i can see you can set friendly's healthbars to be 'simplified', smaller, while enemy's bars are huge

can't see their name then though ?_?

[south night]

ahh ok i wanted it ojn the nameplates why is it not tracked there?

[dim thunder]

Dunno.

[rancid granite]

maybe its just bugged

i can see rend but not hammstring or any of my cc

[worldly oriole]

pre patch is a bust bro

its joever

[bronze furnace]

platynator can show hamstring on nameplates, mag got it working on his stream

[fierce elm]

There is also a bigdebuffs version out

called Minicc

it might show it too

[limber relic]

https://www.twitch.tv/seifcham/clip/BlightedBetterPistachioPrimeMe-0xqsTkGP7zI-Om95

insane talent

[sharp meteor]

LMFAO

dang looks sick

oh

[limber relic]

i got ressed in prep room

[dusky parrot]

you need to be human guy with sword.

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

(I play the same thing as I am irl)

[scarlet trout]

human guy with sword in midnight is like fatass white guy in japan

fwiw

[dusky parrot]

example number one

Varian Wrynn

[scarlet trout]

in midnight?

[dusky parrot]

that human warrior is the best combo

he 1v1's garrosh in the wolfheart novel

and kicks ass

[fierce elm]

Varian Wrynn, bested by a demon

[dusky parrot]

saved the entire faction

[fierce elm]

Garrosh, having to be taken down by the entire combined might of the heroes

smh

[dusky parrot]

and so did tirion btw

But I wont diss garrosh either, garrosh was just as based

[covert talon]

one hero talent better than the other for fury?

hows arms doing currently compared to fury

[fierce elm]

We don't know

and

We don't know

Is the consensus so far

[rancid granite]

fury tree looks so awkward

[limber relic]

its giga bad

[dusky parrot]

its got a bunhc of weaksauce talents

kill or be killed is the only highlight